1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz and our Week in 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: review Ben Ferguson with you, and we had some major 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: stories this week. You may have missed them, and I 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: want to get you up to date. First up, Biden 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: wants more illegals to come in to this country by 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: loosening policies before Donald Trump is inaugurated on January the twentieth. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Why is he doing it? 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Clearly trying to create an immigration dumpster fire for Donald 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Trump and the administration obviously not listening to the American people. Also, 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is celebrating the Rose Garden the Israel cease fire. Well, 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: why did it actually happen? Well, it was because he 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: abandoned our ally and refused to send the weapons that 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: Israel needed. And finally, anti Semitism out of control on 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: college campuses for the last year. So now will things 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: change and will they reverse course because Trump has become president. 17 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about all of it. It's a 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: Week in review and it starts right now. There is 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: like two dumpster fires that seem to be happening simultaneously 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: with the Biden administration, his team around him, and I 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: think Americans should be incredibly angry over this for the 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: fact that they're clearly saying, we know we lost the election, 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: we know you chose a different path, but we're gonna 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: stick it to the American people and also stick it 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: to the Trump administration. Biden has decided, at the very 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: end of his administration not respecting the voters when one 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: of their top issues was border security, to loose in 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: key migrant policies quote unquote right before you go into 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: December January and until January twentieth, when obviously Donald Trump 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: would undo all of this. 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: I think it is absolutely clear that both Biden and 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: Harris want Trump to fail. They want the problems in 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: this country to get worse, and they want to make 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: sure that that Donald Trump inherits the worst stinking pile 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: of crap possible. So you look at challenges at home 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: and abroad. At home, the greatest domestic challenge we have 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 3: is the open borders that Joe Biden Kamala Harris put 38 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: in place. Abroad, the greatest challenge we have are the 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: wars that are unfolding because of Joe Biden Kamala Harris's weakness. Domestically, 40 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 3: what are they doing well, Apparently neither Biden nor Harris 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 3: learned a damn thing from the election. They didn't hear 42 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: from the voters that they don't want an open border, 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: they don't want this invasion. So instead they're doubling down, 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: and they're trying to make it harder for Trump to 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: come in with the new administration, secure the border and 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: remove dangerous criminal illegal aliens. Take a listen to this 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: reporting on Fox about what specifically the Biden administration is doing, Sandra. 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: The Biden administration is quietly loosening immigration policies before Trump 49 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 4: takes offense. This according to The New York Post. It reports, 50 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: the administration is testing a new app that will allow 51 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: illegal migrants to bypass in person check ins at their 52 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: local ice office. Jeff Paul is Live with More. It 53 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: sounds like they're just given Donald Trump one more thing 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: to undo. 55 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 5: Well, joh we do know the Biden administration has been 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 5: testing this new immigration in Customs app, and the idea 57 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 5: is to streamline the check in process for migrants, allow 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 5: them to use their phones or computers to touch base 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 5: with immigration officials while they wait for their date in court, 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 5: instead of appearing for those check ins in person. Now, 61 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 5: a source tells Fox News. Ice has been using the 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 5: app already in a couple of cities, but according to 63 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 5: the New York Post, it's going to be launched officially 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 5: next month in New York City. The field office there 65 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 5: reportedly has been overwhelmed, fully booked with appointments for a year. 66 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 5: Our sources tell us that's really the push to get 67 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: this backlogged moved through. The concerns regarding this app. Obviously, 68 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 5: it's a new app, so there's going to be some glitches. 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: The other wider concern is could it cause even more 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 5: migrants to go under the radar. We'll have to see 71 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 5: what happens. 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 6: John. 73 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: There's also some major issues in the reporting with this app. 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: For example, the app reportedly has severe glitches and issues 75 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: and does not track a migrants location if he or 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: she is using an Android phone or laptop. So, hey, 77 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 2: if you're a legal immigrant, just don't use an iPhone 78 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: and they won't be able to track you. The app 79 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: also does not check migrants for pass arrests or outstanding warrants, 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: which is what they do now currently, and so that's 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 2: another problem. 82 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: They say. The app allows them to opt. 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: Out of the the contest government orders to undergo electronic tracking, 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: so you can just say no, I don't want to 85 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: be tracked. 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: There's no way to find you. 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: And they know all of these glitches are in here, 88 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: and yet they're going, yes, we should move forward with this, 89 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: knowing that Donald Trump's going to undo it. 90 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, understand, the problem is not just that Donald Trump's 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: gonna undo it, but the Biden administration is trying to 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: make it harder to find these illegal immigrants. Why would 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: you say, Hey, you don't have to check in in person. Hey, 94 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: you can check in on any app that doesn't track 95 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: your location, if you're on an Android for it. Hey, 96 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: you can check in in a way that we're not 97 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: going to find out if you've been arrested, if you 98 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: have a warrant. This is all designed to help illegal 99 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: immigrants go underground because Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and let's 100 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: be clear, every Democrat in the House and Senate. You 101 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: don't hear any of the Democrats speaking out of it 102 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: against this. None of them are saying this is wrong, 103 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: don't do this. This is designed to make it more 104 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: difficult for the incoming administration to find illegal immigrants and 105 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: to arrest illegal immigrants and to deport illegal immigrants. That 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 3: includes the convicted murderers that have been released by this administration, 107 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: the convicted rapists, the convicted child molesters. You look at, 108 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three set the record for the highest number 109 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 3: of illegal immigrants entering the country in a single year, 110 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: three point two million. And Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 111 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: they don't want those illegal immigrants removed from this country. 112 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: They see them as future Democrat voters. This is all 113 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: about power, and I got to say say it is stunning. 114 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: Well here, I want you to take a look at this, 115 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: this tweet from Bill Malusion that lays out some of 116 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: the numbers. And for those of y'all that are listening, 117 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: I'm going to read it to you. This is what 118 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: Bill Malugin tweeted. New per US official to Fox News. 119 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: There are currently one point four million illegal immigrants in 120 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: the US who have been ordered deported by a DOJ 121 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: immigration judge but haven't been removed yet. 122 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: So that's, by the way, if people want to know 123 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: where Trump's going to start, I think Bill Malugin's tweet 124 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: is a great reminder. There are one point four million 125 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants US have been ordered to be deported. So 126 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: if you want to know where they're going to start, 127 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: this is where they would start. 128 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm told approximately thirteen thousand of them are being 129 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: held in ice custody, So out of one point four million, 130 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: only thirteen thousand are in custody. The population of one 131 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: point four million illegal immigrants have final orders of removal, 132 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 3: meaning they have had their immigration cases heard, receive their 133 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: due process, and have been ordered removed from the US 134 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: by a DOJ fed immigration judge. A fraction of them 135 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: may still have appeal options available to them and may 136 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: not yet be removable. With only thirteen thousand in federalized custody, 137 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 3: we are potentially looking at a lot of people roaming 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: around the country who are in the US illegally and 139 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: who have been ordered removed. It is impossible to know 140 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: how many of them may be in state or local custodies. 141 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: That one point four million, You're right, is exactly where 142 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 3: I expect the Trump administration to start. I also expect 143 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: them to start with the five hundred thousand convicted criminals, 144 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: those with other criminal convictions murder, rape, child molestation, who 145 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: are illegal immigrants who are released to go and apprehend 146 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: the criminals, go after the murderers, the rapists, the child molesters, 147 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: go after the Venezuelan gang members. If you're a Venezuelan 148 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: gang member, my advice is pack up and move out 149 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: right now, because we're coming for you. That this administration 150 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: is going to arrest you, They're going to remove you, 151 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: they're going to deport you, that if you've committed criminal offenses, 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: they're going to put. 153 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: You in jail. 154 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the tone death aspect of this, and 155 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: I say tone death, some people would care. 156 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: They don't seem to care. Referring to Biden administration. 157 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: You just had a trial that was watched in Georgia 158 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: of an incredible young lady who fought for a life 159 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: for eighteen minutes. Eighteen minutes she was fighting to save 160 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: her own life. She was ultimately killed by an league 161 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: lmmgrant that we were paying for the hotel rooms, we 162 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: were flying him from New York to Georgia, and we're 163 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: allowing him to be able to kill this incredible student 164 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: in nursing school. And yet the response from this administration is, yeah, 165 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna keep facilitating that and do it on an 166 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: app and make sure we can't track people for the 167 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: next seventy days, because well, we're sorry that you guys 168 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: picked Donald Trump and you wanted security. 169 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: We're not going to give that to you. 170 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's even worse than that. The attitude of a 171 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 3: great many Democrats is massive resistance. It is reminiscent of 172 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: Bull connor during the Civil rights battles. O'Connor was an 173 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: elected Democrat who did not want to follow the law 174 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: and was defying the law, and he was bitterly angry. 175 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: I want you to give a listen to a modern 176 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: day Bull Connor, which is the Democrat mayor of the 177 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: city of Denver. Give a listen to what he has 178 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 3: to say. 179 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 7: About civil disobedience. You've mentioned that a couple of times now. 180 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 7: Would you be willing to participate in those as the 181 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 7: mayor of Denver? Would you be willing to go out 182 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 7: and protest these things? 183 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 8: I would if I believe that our residents are having 184 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 8: their rights violate. If I think things are happening that 185 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 8: are illegal or immoral or an American in our city, 186 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 8: I would certainly protest it, and I would expect other 187 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 8: residents would do the same. 188 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 7: Trump's new borders are Tom Homan has said that he 189 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 7: is willing to arrest leaders like yourself for standing in 190 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 7: the way of these policies that they want to enact. 191 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 7: Would you be willing to go to jail for these things? 192 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not afraid of that, and I'm also not 193 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 8: seeking that. I think the goal is we want to 194 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 8: be able to negotiate with reasonable people how to solve 195 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 8: hard problems for publican and democratic presence in the past 196 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 8: have all tried to find solutions to these problems. President 197 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 8: Reagan help people get access to work so they could 198 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 8: stay and support themselves. Biden Harris worked on restricting entry 199 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 8: at the border to close down There are a lot 200 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 8: of ways to approach this problem. We don't think it 201 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 8: has to come to this, but yeah, I think when 202 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 8: you look at you know, Ralph Carr has always been 203 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 8: one of my heroes. He was the governor who in 204 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 8: the middle of the interment of Japanese Americans said this 205 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 8: was the wrong thing to do, and he stood up. 206 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 8: It was unpopular, people were mad at about it. That 207 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 8: was the middle of a wartime. If the president or 208 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 8: any of his actors are going to do things that 209 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 8: we think are illegal or immoral or an American we'll 210 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 8: stand up against those. 211 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: It's amazing how the law doesn't matter. 212 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: He just said, well, if it's the thing I think 213 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: is immoral, then I'm going to just say I'm not 214 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: going to follow the law. That's clearly and they want 215 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: to become martyrs, they want to become famous. He's enjoying 216 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: this moment. Please put me in handcuffs, make me a martyr. 217 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 2: And I'm saying that we are still a sanctuary city. 218 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: So understand, the mayor of Denver is the modern day 219 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: Bull Connor. He is standing at the courthouse saying I 220 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: will block federal law. I will not follow federal law 221 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: because my politics, my prejudices. It's interesting he referenced Japanese 222 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 3: internment camps. Who was it that ordered Japanese internment camps? 223 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: That was a Democrat president. 224 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: Fdr. 225 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: You want to talk about patterns of lawlessness, The Democrat 226 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: Party has over a century of history of lawlessness. And 227 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to call for something right now. So the 228 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: mayor of Denvers said, we want illegal immigrants in our city. 229 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: We will fight to keep illegal immigrants in our city. 230 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 3: I don't care that the voters don't want it. I 231 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: don't care what federal law says. I don't care about 232 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 3: the women being murdered, the women being raped, the children 233 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: being assaulted. I'm going to call right now for Greg Abbott, 234 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: the governor of Texas, for Ron de Santis, the governor 235 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: of Florida, for any other red governor to start sending 236 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: buses to Denver, Colorado. Mayor of Denver wants illegal immigrants. Well, 237 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: you know what, Joe Biden. One of the lies that 238 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 3: mayor just said is well Biden and Harris tightened the 239 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: standards at the border. 240 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: That is called a lie. 241 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: They didn't tighten the standard. They open up the border. 242 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 3: Texas is being in right now, and I'm going to 243 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: urge the state government of Texas send every one of 244 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 3: the illegals who comes into the state to Denver, Colorado, 245 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: drop them off in front of the mayor's residence. He 246 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 3: wants them there. He's willing to go to jail to 247 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: fight for them to be there. Fine, we will send 248 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 3: you the Venezuelan gang members to your city and let's see. 249 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to predict right now the residents 250 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: of Denver aren't going to like this. I'm going to 251 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: predict right now, what is. 252 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: A tipping point? 253 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: That was the question was going to ask you because 254 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: it is in Colorado where we've seen these gangs from 255 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: Venezuela take over apartment complexes. 256 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: Aurora, Colorado. And by the way, ABC, the corporate media 257 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: just said, well, it was only a handful of apartment complexes. Well, 258 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: you know, you know what, We'll send a few more 259 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: and let us know when you would like us to stop, 260 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: because you're so proud see today's Democrat. They don't fight 261 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: for American citizens, they fight for illegal immigrants. They fight 262 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: for Venezuelan gang members. They want more of them there. Well, 263 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: I'm happy to remove them from the state of Texas 264 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: that removed them from Florida, to remove them from other 265 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: red states and guess what, they can all learn to 266 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: be skipros. 267 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 268 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 269 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Sanata, 270 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: let me ask you another question about the Also, when 271 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: it comes to the timing of this there was Israel 272 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: wanted to make it clear they feel like the Biden 273 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: administration completely abandoned them and their leadership, which was to 274 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: force them into a ceasefire. Israeli government spokesman went on 275 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 2: MSNBC and this is what he. 276 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 9: Said on that potential ceasefire deal joining US now. Israeli 277 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 9: government spokesman in the Office of the Prime Minister, David Menser, 278 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 9: really good to have you. Thank you for being with us. 279 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 10: Is this a. 280 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 9: Permanent deal or a temporary deal? 281 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 11: The lens of the five depends on what happens inside Lebanon. 282 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 11: We will certainly from Israel's twenty you adhere to the agreement, 283 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 11: but we will also insist on the agreement being enforced. 284 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 10: We will respond forcefully to any violation. 285 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 11: So with the US is understanding, we will maintain the 286 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 11: full freedom of military action. Yes, of course, we want 287 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 11: our people to go home to their homes in sovereign 288 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 11: Israeli territory. 289 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: But if. 290 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 11: Violates the agreement and tries to rearm, we will attack. 291 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 11: If it tries to rebuild its terrorist infratrack infrastructure near 292 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 11: the border, we will attack. 293 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 10: And the Prime Minister has made crystal clear. 294 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 11: If it launches rockets, if it digs tunnels, if it 295 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 11: brings in truckloads of rockets, we will attack. We all 296 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 11: want peace in this region, no one more than Israel, 297 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 11: but we will respond forcibly to any violation of disagreement. 298 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 9: Does that go for the other side as well? If 299 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 9: Israel comes back and rearms itself and resets for a 300 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 9: possible future escalation, possible future escalation in Lebanon, is that 301 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 9: a violation of the agreement? 302 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: I just kind of stop and get your reaction to that. 303 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: It's amazing how the media here is acting like Israel 304 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: is a terrorist organization. They should be held to the 305 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: same standards as a terrorist organization, Like, well, hold on 306 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: a second, if you're gonna hold terrorist's standards Israel, are 307 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: you guys gonna not arm yourself again? Israel is doing 308 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: this in a defensive manner because they've been attacked from 309 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: all sides, and yet NBC is asking a question like 310 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: they're a terrorist group. 311 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: That may be the most astonishing question I've ever heard 312 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: a reporter say in my life. I want you to 313 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: play that play just the final question again. I want 314 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: you to hear it, because this is staggering that this 315 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: is Do you have the name of this reporter? 316 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 317 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: This is on Katie Tour's show NBC slash MSNBC. And 318 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: again here's that question as she acts like Israel's a 319 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: terrorist organization. 320 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 9: Does that go for the other side as well? If 321 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 9: Israel comes back and rearms itself and resets for a 322 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 9: possible future escalation, possible future escalation in Lebanon, is that 323 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 9: a violation of the agreement? 324 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: I mean, people wonder why the media no one has 325 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: any faith in them anymore? 326 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: And understand, Katie Tuur was a star reporter for NBC. 327 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: She was embedded with the Trump campaign in twenty sixteen. 328 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 3: She now has her own show on MSNBC. And what 329 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: an absurd question is the agreement violated if Israel re 330 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: arms itself, Katie, Israel is a sovereign nation. Israel is 331 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: entitled to defend itself. There's nothing in this agreement. I mean, 332 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: listen to the idiocy of well, doesn't this agreement say 333 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: that Israel cannot have an army, can't defend itself, has 334 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: to be utterly defenseless. Why, Well, they committed the horrible 335 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: crime of existing when Hamas came in and murdered twelve 336 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: hundred innocent civilians. Like there is a reason that we 337 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: did an episode early on after October seventh. That's actually 338 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 3: one of my favorite episodes entitled CNN is Hamas's Air 339 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: Force so is MSNBC, so is ABC. By the way, 340 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: you want to go back and that that's one of 341 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: the episodes we put on YouTube. It's a video episode 342 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: and you can watch it because we play about a 343 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: dozen different clips where the corporate media is the pr 344 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: arm of hamas well, there is MSNBC being the pr 345 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 3: arm of Hesbela saying well, wouldn't it violated if Israel 346 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 3: re arms itself. No, Israel has a right to defend 347 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: itself and to keep the people of Israel safe, and 348 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 3: they are not the equivalent as apparently MSNBC seems to 349 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: think of the terrorist organization Samas and Hesbela that target 350 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: and murder civilians. 351 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: I wish, by the way, I could say that this 352 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: was the worst for Katie in this interview. Listen to 353 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 2: the response from the Israeli government spokesman and then the 354 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: follow up to this about why the timing has happened 355 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: now for this deal to be done, and that's where 356 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: it Israel basically kind of says like, yeah, it's the 357 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: Biden administration's fault because they didn't give us what we 358 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: need to defend ourselves. 359 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 11: Listen, of course, not Casey, Israel's a sovereign country, not 360 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 11: a terrorist organization. We're talking about Jezebela, a terrorist organization 361 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 11: in my country. But also last time I checked in 362 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 11: your country to Kasey, they're a terrorist organization. They're our enemy. 363 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 11: That make no misting that your enemy, and the States 364 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 11: as well. So we, of course at Israel will defend ourselves. 365 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 11: That's our rights like any other country in the world, 366 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 11: to defend ourselves. But if this terrorist organization begins to 367 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 11: prepare another attack against us, we will defend ourselves. 368 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 10: Israel reserves that right. 369 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 9: Is this contingent upon the US unfreezing a weaponshipment, specifically 370 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 9: those one ton bombs that Israel had been using so effectively. 371 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 11: Well, look, the Prime Minister made clear just before a 372 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 11: couple of hours ago that the reason why this has 373 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 11: happened now are three reasons. 374 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 10: It's because we want to focus now on the Iranian threat. 375 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 11: The premiss didn't want to expand on that, but we 376 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 11: know that Iran is preparing to create a nuclear weapon. 377 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 11: We cannot let that happen. We will always make that 378 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 11: our number one priority because Iran say they wish to 379 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 11: wipe this country up the face of the earth. 380 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 10: Katie, when they say it. We believe it. 381 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 11: And the second reason, of course is to yes, give 382 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 11: our forces a breather and to replenish our stocks. 383 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 10: And there have been big delays. 384 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 11: The Prime Minister made that clear that yes, the US 385 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 11: is our closest ally in the world. 386 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 10: There are no two closer countries anywhere in the world. 387 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 11: That there have been big delays in weapons and munitions deliveries. 388 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 10: The Prime Minister made that clear. 389 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 11: And these delays we hope will be resolved very very soon. 390 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 11: But really the third reason for this ceasepy now is 391 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 11: to separate as. The Prime Minister said that fronts and 392 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 11: isolate from US. From day two law Hamas was counting 393 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 11: Onbela to fight by its side. That was a massive miscalculation. 394 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 11: With Hesbela now out of the picture, Hamas is left 395 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 11: on its own and Israel can increase our pressure on 396 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 11: Hamas get our hostages home, which is our sacred mission. 397 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 10: It's on number one priority. 398 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: Has I mean you hear it there, there's still like, 399 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: hey you guys, let us hang out to dry. 400 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: The Biden administration did this on purpose. We need this. 401 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: We got to wait for Trump to come in. 402 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: Well, and that's why this cease fire happened now as 403 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: the Biden White House put enormous pressure on Israel to 404 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: accept this deal, Israel did, and it is rational for 405 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 3: Israel to make the decision focusing on Hamas, cutting Hamas 406 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: off from Hesbela. That is a major strategic step forward. 407 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: And so I understand why the deal was attractive. But 408 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: the deal is also this White House is a It 409 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: was prompted by this White House for extended periods of 410 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: time cutting off weapons to Israel. 411 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 11: But b. 412 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Kamala Harrison, the Democrats are trying to 413 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 3: tie Israel's hands, and they're trying to do it before 414 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: the Trump administration comes into office. And so what I'm 415 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: trying to make clear is nothing in this deal ties 416 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: Israel's hands to protect itself, to defeat and kill terrorists. Understand, Literally, 417 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 3: on the day of October seventh, the Biden administration was 418 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: saying publicly, do not retaliate militarily. They have been saying 419 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: every day since October seventh. Happened, stop killing terrorists. And Israel, 420 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: to its credit, and I got to say the Prime 421 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: Minister spokesman there, I think did a fantastic job of 422 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 3: articulating that Israel is going to defend itself whether or 423 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 3: not Democrats in Washington are willing to support it. 424 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: As before, If you want to hear the rest of 425 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 426 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 2: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 427 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 428 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: story number three of the week you may have missed. 429 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about college campuses, and 430 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: we talked to the I'm going to go you mentioned 431 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: in the center, and I talked about this a lot 432 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: on the show. Those presidents that came before Congress, and 433 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: it was shocking that they would not stop the just 434 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: abuse of the Jewish students and not protect them. Do 435 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: you feel like the pendulum will swing back watching what 436 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: happened to some of those presidents and just seeing how 437 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: extreme these college campuses have gotten, or do you think 438 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: they're just so indoctrinated to hate Israel now that this 439 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: is just the policy of almost all of these IVY schools. 440 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 6: Well, the good things then is as a sort of 441 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 6: broken down academic myself, I can tell you one thing 442 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 6: which is the one thing they care more about than 443 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 6: their parking spaces is their funding. And so if you 444 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 6: hold their funding at risk, they will stop this behavior. 445 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 6: And so I was at penn last April to give 446 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 6: remarks on why I think it's a bad idea to 447 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 6: hate Jews, and I required three layers of armed guards. 448 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 6: I had Philadelphia City cops, I had pen cops, and 449 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 6: Heritage was not satisfied with that, and they sent an 450 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 6: additional armed guard with me because it was such radical 451 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 6: thing for me to go on campus and make these remarks, 452 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 6: and that speech isn't free. A lot of people had 453 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 6: to pay for that, including the taxpayers of Pennsylvania amongst others. 454 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 6: And it was a really enlightening moment that we have 455 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 6: to hold this funding at risk. And I've heard President 456 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 6: Trump talk about this. I think very forcefully that no 457 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 6: university should get federal funding. And I think we can 458 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 6: also look at this from the state perspective and hold 459 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 6: that funding at risk and that will actually change this behavior. 460 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: Well. And I got to say, Victoria has a lot 461 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: of courage going on to college campuses and facing the 462 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 3: crazy left, the angry left, the Israel hating and America 463 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: hating left, and we need to see more of that courage, 464 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 3: more of that courage among academics, more of that courage 465 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: among students. And you know, I think back. You know, 466 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: I mentioned Ben at the outset that Victoria was my 467 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: first national security advisor, and I think it's worth recounting 468 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: a little bit of that story when we first started 469 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: working together. So I was elected to the Senate twelve 470 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: years ago. I show up in December of twenty twelve, 471 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: sworn in in January of twenty thirteen. And when you're 472 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 3: a brand new Senator, when you're a baby senator, they 473 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: put you down down on these little bitty basement offices 474 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: and it's basically freshman hazing. I mean, there are one 475 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: hundred Senate offices that are full offices, but they keep 476 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 3: the new senators down in the basement for three four 477 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: five months, just basically as an initiation. And then so 478 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 3: Victoria was part of our very first team that came 479 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: together right when I was newly elected. And she came 480 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 3: and joined us initially for what was going to be 481 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 3: two weeks and just to help us get started, help 482 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 3: us hire some staff, and then she then she was 483 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: going to move on. And when we got there. One 484 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: of the very first things we had as we had 485 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: a vote on John Kerrey, who had been nominated as 486 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 3: Secretary of State, and John Kerry at the time I 487 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: was elected, he was a senator, so he was a 488 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: colleague of mine for like four minutes. And then Obama 489 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: the beginning of the second term, nominated Kerrie as Secretary 490 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: of State. I remember John Carey came by my basement office. 491 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: Victoria was sitting in the office in the meeting, and 492 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: Carrie was, let me speak nicely, incredibly confident in himself. 493 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: I'm trying to put that in a kind tone, and 494 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: he gave me this this sort of long lecture how 495 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: I really need to it needed to embrace the Law 496 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: of the Sea Treaty, which the Law of the Sea Treaty, 497 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 3: among other things, significantly undermines US sovereignty and gives away 498 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 3: the ability of we the people to make own laws. 499 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,479 Speaker 3: And I remember sitting that just kind of laughing and 500 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: being like, Okay, this guy has no idea who I am, 501 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: like none whatsoever. And we then came to the vote 502 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: on the floor of the Senate, and it was one 503 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 3: of the very first votes I ever took, and I 504 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: went down and voted no, and there was literally an 505 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 3: audible gasp on the floor of the Senate when I 506 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: voted no, because a freshman senator was certainly not supposed 507 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: to do that. The vote was ninety seven to three. 508 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: So ninety seven senators voted yes. There were only three 509 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: of us that voted no. I was it ninety four 510 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: to three? Okay, Well, then I guess Carrie didn't vote 511 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: for himself. And I remember the three. 512 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 10: I remember them. 513 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't know who skipped. Whoever skipped, they did better 514 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 3: than the ninety four. And then immediately thereafter, about concurrently 515 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: with it, was the confirmation of Chuck Hagel. Now Chuck 516 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: Hagel is who Obama had nominated to be Secretary of Defense, 517 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 3: and Chuck Hagel had been a Republican senator. I didn't 518 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: know Hegel, but as I looked at his record, his 519 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: record was terrible. And so I ended up leading what 520 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: was the very first filibuster in American history against a 521 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 3: defense secretary, and it was successful. It was before Harry 522 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 3: Reid had used the nuclear option, before he'd blown up 523 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 3: the filibuster. So you can't filibuster now a cabinet nominee anymore, 524 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: but you could then, and we successfully held forty one Republicans. 525 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 3: We stopped his nomination, and then actually Republicans being what 526 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: they are, several other Republicans who joined us went wobbly 527 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 3: and decided to confirm him anyway. But that's another story. 528 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: But what I will say is I think it got 529 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: Victoria's attention that this was not going to be just 530 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 3: to quiet go along to get a long tenure in 531 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: the Senate, that we were there to fight battles and 532 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 3: lead battles. And she ended up staying in. And I'll 533 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: tell you something astonishing, Penn. So, if you rewind the 534 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 3: clock twelve years ago, twelve years ago, I am elected 535 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 3: to the Senate, I'm elected to the Senate. I'm forty 536 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 3: one years old, brand new, elected to the Senate. And 537 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 3: as I came into the Senate, I had areas that 538 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: I knew a lot about. If you were talking about 539 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 3: legal issues, if you're talking about criminal justice, if you 540 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 3: were talking about constitutional law, I had a long background 541 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: in all of those issues. When it came to foreign policy, 542 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: I had essentially zero background. Just my professional career, I'd 543 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 3: never worked in foreign policy. I never worked in the 544 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: State Department of Defense department. I'd never dealt with foreign policy. 545 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: My focus had always been domestic. When I was on 546 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: the George W. Bush campaign twenty four years ago, I 547 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 3: was the domestic policy advisor. That was my specialty, and 548 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: so look economic matter, domestic matters. I had a lot 549 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: of experience foreign policy, I had essentially none, but I 550 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 3: did have some strong beliefs. The son of a Cuban 551 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: immigrant who had fought in the Cuban Revolution, and I 552 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: believed profoundly in freedom. I was inspired by Reagan. Peace 553 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: through strength is a principle in philosophy that I believed 554 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 3: deeply in. But I didn't have a terribly deep subject 555 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: matter expertise. And so one of the things I give 556 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: give that background because one of the remarkable things Victoria 557 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: did is is basically convened a university in the United 558 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: States Senate to train me up in foreign policy. And 559 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 3: I say so with complete humility. And what preceded for 560 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: four years is we would do deep dives. And when 561 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: I'm in DC, Heidi and the girls stay back in Houston. 562 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: So when I'm in DC, I'm solo. I don't have 563 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: I don't have anybody at home, and so my philosophy, 564 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: if I get to get to my apartment at seven 565 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: or eight or nine, o'clock at night, I'll be mad 566 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 3: at my team. I'll be like, wait, what am I 567 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: doing sitting in an apartment staring at a wall. There's 568 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: work to be done. Like now, if Heidi in the 569 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: girls were there, I'd want to be home with the kids. 570 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: But if they're not there, I want to work. And 571 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: so every night when I'm in DC, I do a 572 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: working dinner. And what Victoria began convening as we do 573 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: working dinners, and many of them were with subject matter experts, 574 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: where we'd bring in, say a Middle East policy expert 575 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 3: or a couple. We'd bring in an Israel expert, or 576 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: an Iran expert, we'd bring in a Russia expert, we'd 577 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 3: bring in a China expert, and we'd do a deep 578 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: dive onto a subject matter and sit there and have 579 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: a three four hour dinner really asking. You know, I'm 580 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: a big believer that there are no stupid questions other 581 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 3: than the question you don't ask because you're afraid to ask. 582 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 3: And so I was perfectly happy to ask question after 583 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: question after question. And I will just say, now, twelve 584 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: years later, where I have been in the middle of 585 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: virtually every foreign policy battle in the Senate, for a 586 00:30:54,640 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 3: long time. Now, it's worth looking back to twelve years ago. 587 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: The incredible job Victoria did systematically giving me a knowledge 588 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: set to go along with principles that I started with. 589 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: But I didn't have the subject matter expertise. And there's 590 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: literally no person on planet Earth more responsible for my 591 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: being able to develop that subject matter expertise than Victoria Victor. 592 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question following up on what 593 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 2: he just stated there, and that is it's it's getting 594 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: close to Christmas, a lot of people buying gifts. It's 595 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: Black Friday right now as people are listening to this. 596 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: When you wrote this book, who did you envision reading it? 597 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: Is this one of those books that you should absolutely 598 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: get for maybe your kids are in high school or 599 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: in college. 600 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: Is this I mean when you when you write it? 601 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: When I wrote my book, I'm like, I was trying 602 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 2: to vision who do I want to read this book? 603 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: Who am I trying to give information to? 604 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 6: To give information ben to people who who are interested 605 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 6: in American national security? And not to correct Senator Cruise, 606 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 6: but not that I ever would, But the only thing 607 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 6: I would adjust to what he just said is it's 608 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 6: not foreign policy. This is national security. This is what 609 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 6: touches all Americans every day, and so I would hope 610 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 6: everyone from a high school senior to somebody who's just 611 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 6: interested in the Middle East would be interested in this 612 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 6: book because they want to know why this is in 613 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 6: the United States' best interests. And I would boil this 614 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 6: down to a single issue. And I remember so clearly 615 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 6: when we made the decision to do this, which was 616 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 6: when Senator Heller's bill to move the Israeli Embassy from 617 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 6: Tel Aviv to Jerusalem came up right away in January 618 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 6: of twenty thirteen, and it did not have a co sponsor, 619 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 6: and I said to Senator Cruz, would you like to 620 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 6: be co sponsor? And he said, yes, I would. This 621 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 6: seems like a really good idea because this gives that 622 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 6: kind of clarity that we were just talking about. And 623 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 6: that's when I knew we were off to the races. 624 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 6: Same thing with the vote on John Carey, same thing 625 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 6: with Chuck Hagel, that we are going to take a 626 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 6: new approach to these issues. And it's one of the 627 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 6: reasons it was not easy for me to leave Senator 628 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 6: Cruz's staff to go into the Trump administration. But I 629 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 6: had no conflict of interest because it was essentially the 630 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 6: same policies. These are the America First policies, and one 631 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 6: of those keystones of that is the relationship between the 632 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 6: United States and Israel. And so that's really the purpose 633 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 6: behind the book to explain to people why that is 634 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 6: and then to give them ammunition to spread that information 635 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 6: around because I think the disinformation about Israel, the very 636 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 6: negative information about the Jewish people as well as Israel, 637 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 6: is so pervasive. So that's why I wrote it. 638 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: I know it's going to be an important book and 639 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to want to try 640 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: to grab this. 641 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: Where can they get it? Where do you tell people 642 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: to go? 643 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, they can get it anywhere they would like. They 644 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 6: can get it on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, they can 645 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 6: go to the encounterpress website, but Amazon's probably the easiest 646 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 6: what we all have on our phones. So really appreciate 647 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 6: any kind of pre orders and I hope it makes 648 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,479 Speaker 6: a great gift. 649 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 650 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to down 651 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 2: with my podcast, and you can listen to my podcast 652 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: every other day. You're not listening to Verdict or each 653 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to 654 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson 655 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 2: podcasts and we will see you back here on Monday morning.