Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with Santana Ma's Fred Smooth and the legend guy these
Speaker 1: own introduction, Gary Clark, and we're here at the Beauty
Speaker 1: in front of the best friends in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much out that's fantastic y'all doing and.
Speaker 1: So obviously it's very special having Gary Clark here, right.
Speaker 1: I mean to me, you're Washington Royalty, and the reason
Speaker 1: you're here is because it's awesome getting you around. But
Speaker 1: I also we're going to talk about getting back to RFK,
Speaker 1: and I figure there's no better person to have on
Speaker 1: to talk about some memories at RFK. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've got me. It was a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Can you kind of give us some light on what
Speaker 1: it was like playing there and some of your favorite.
Speaker 3: Playing a veritable pitch how it failed to walk in
Speaker 3: there and play a game because it's different than what
Speaker 3: we needed.
Speaker 2: No wire stadium, just take us there, if you could
Speaker 2: take us there.
Speaker 4: Well, first I want to let everybody know I parked
Speaker 4: all y'all's cars, all y'all's cars here. I made sure
Speaker 4: the shine was on it to make sure all y'all's
Speaker 4: cars were taking care of and nobody's messing with him
Speaker 4: because I am y'all bo, that's for sure. But no,
Speaker 4: I mean RFK, it was just a whole other thing,
Speaker 4: a whole other world, quite honestly. The fans were so dedicated.
Speaker 4: The stadium would rock, and we're playing well. What I
Speaker 4: loved about is too those when you weren't playing well,
Speaker 4: they let you know that too. They let you know
Speaker 4: when you're playing well, they let you know when you
Speaker 4: weren't playing well, you need to take it up a notch.
Speaker 4: But RFK was. I'm so happy that it's coming back
Speaker 4: to this area and coming back to DC.
Speaker 1: And so is there anything that you remember, you know,
Speaker 1: like the seat cushion game you got? You remember anything
Speaker 1: about that, like anything that kind of makes you feel
Speaker 1: some type of way about that gives you the woman fuzzies.
Speaker 4: I mean, that was a special season to start with.
Speaker 4: I think, honestly, I think that ninety one team maybe
Speaker 4: be the best team in the NFL history.
Speaker 2: In terms of VOTABO.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was. It was a special season, a
Speaker 4: special year. But again, you know, one fan through one
Speaker 4: seat cushion, the next thing you know, it was raining
Speaker 4: seat cushions, you know, and you should see everybody, every
Speaker 4: player just picked smiles on her face because you know,
Speaker 4: when those seat cushions came out, pretty much we already
Speaker 4: knew that that game was done, that game was won,
Speaker 4: and we're going to the next step, the next level.
Speaker 4: So I mean, Gary, He's Gary fans are the best.
Speaker 2: My man.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna cut you off, Gary being a being
Speaker 5: a form of player for this franchise.
Speaker 2: And just I don't know how long you've been up
Speaker 2: here since.
Speaker 5: Since you you know, last played, but I remember having
Speaker 5: those conversations with you when I first got here. You
Speaker 5: told me, Tanner, you'll you'll be a food if you
Speaker 5: don't stay in this area when you're done.
Speaker 2: And I remember when I left and I was in
Speaker 2: school and I come.
Speaker 5: Back and you asked me where I was at, but
Speaker 5: not too chying too long on that. What is it
Speaker 5: like to just hear that it's a possibility that we
Speaker 5: might be getting back to, you know, bringing DC home,
Speaker 5: like because you know, we haven't had the experience Logan
Speaker 5: played that Logan played a college football college football game
Speaker 5: at RK. But what is it like just to hear
Speaker 5: that we have that possibility again, because like I said before,
Speaker 5: me and Fred never got the experience, and you Logan
Speaker 5: the only one can really.
Speaker 2: Attest for it.
Speaker 4: I think automatically that rush of what happened in the
Speaker 4: past automatically comes to you. We start thinking about our
Speaker 4: great playoff years, our great Super Bowl years. Automatically it
Speaker 4: starts coming back to you and you start realizing that,
Speaker 4: I mean, the fans were just just a whole nother thing.
Speaker 4: It was just so awesome. Like after a game when
Speaker 4: we won, I'm at least in the parking lot, out
Speaker 4: and a half two hours after the game, just hanging
Speaker 4: out with the fans, taking pictures quite honestly, shooting. That's
Speaker 4: what we're doing with the fans. Yeah, and enjoying it.
Speaker 4: We all enjoyed it. We weren't run away from the fans.
Speaker 4: There was no special lot for us, and if it was,
Speaker 4: it could have been. But I didn't park in it.
Speaker 4: I parked the right where all the fans parked as well.
Speaker 4: And enjoy it. Now, if we lost the football game,
Speaker 4: don't say because I'm but the fans understood that, and
Speaker 4: they knew that. They knew when to talk to me
Speaker 4: and when not to talk to me, if we lost
Speaker 4: a football game, I'm trying to figure out why we lost.
Speaker 4: We won the football game, I'm celebrating it with those
Speaker 4: fans because the other reason why we're playing in the
Speaker 4: first place. I mean, our twelfth man was off the
Speaker 4: chain and that was the soft the chain again like
Speaker 4: last year at fed AX. I mean, I'm sorry Northwest Westwest.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, y'all earned the twelfth man
Speaker 3: though that team that fan base had got so used
Speaker 3: to winning at that time, they didn't know no other
Speaker 3: way of playing football. So the difference between me and
Speaker 3: Tanna playing we played some good games the form of
Speaker 3: FedEx field, but we didn't play a lot of meaningful games.
Speaker 2: You got to play a lot of NFC championships in RFK.
Speaker 3: Is it one game in an NFC Championship did you say,
Speaker 3: you know what we almost played outside our mind, I'm
Speaker 3: almost played the perfect game.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean for me, I mean I played in
Speaker 4: three NFC Championship games, but one was in New York.
Speaker 4: We didn't do so up in New York. The first
Speaker 4: actually my first one was in New York and we lost.
Speaker 4: And that let me really know what resking football was.
Speaker 4: I was beside myself. I mean, I think there's only
Speaker 4: one time a grown man should cry. That's when they
Speaker 4: lose a family member or when you lose a freaking
Speaker 4: football game. Because that's I mean, for me, that's when.
Speaker 4: The only time I've ever cried is when I lost
Speaker 4: family members and when I lost a football game. And
Speaker 4: I started from the time I was a little boy
Speaker 4: until time I was a grown man playing for Washington.
Speaker 4: That Giants game that we lost in eighty six, man,
Speaker 4: I cried for at least the first ten days after
Speaker 4: we lost. Ten days You WA's going to do that?
Speaker 4: Plus plus I didn't I didn't have a good game either.
Speaker 4: I didn't have a good game. I didn't do enough
Speaker 4: for our team to win the football game. So it
Speaker 4: bothered me, but it also put me on the mission
Speaker 4: for the following year. I've got it, I mean, because
Speaker 4: it's nothing worse than getting in the championship game than losing.
Speaker 4: I would have rather not gotten the game at all.
Speaker 4: We're going to get to the championship game and lose.
Speaker 4: That's the worst feeling in the world. And I had
Speaker 4: that feeling. So the very next year, I said, we ever
Speaker 4: get chance to get back to a championship game. I'm
Speaker 4: not losing that MF game. I'm not losing that game.
Speaker 4: I don't care what I got to do. I don't
Speaker 4: care what I gotta do, what I got to say,
Speaker 4: what I got to do to my teammates. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to lose that game. So the next championship game
Speaker 4: is against Minnesota. That was a good game. It was
Speaker 4: a good game. We're battling, and for me it was
Speaker 4: great because I you know, I had an opportunity to
Speaker 4: score a touchdown in that game, and our defense stopped
Speaker 4: Daryl Green defensive back stopped the guy coming. They drove
Speaker 4: back down the field and with no time out, He's
Speaker 4: like he didn't really deflect. He kind of ran in
Speaker 4: front of the guy. So I'm gonna get But I mean,
Speaker 4: getting to your first super Bowl, I mean it's just
Speaker 4: it's it's just nothing like it. And I also cried
Speaker 4: then too because I was going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: So I cried when we was going to the super
Speaker 4: Bowl as well, just because childhood dream come true. I've
Speaker 4: been wanting to go to the Super Bowl since I
Speaker 4: was five and a half years old. That's when I
Speaker 4: started wanting to be a professional football player at five
Speaker 4: and a half. So having that opportunity to do these
Speaker 4: things at RK, I mean, like literally, they treated us
Speaker 4: like gods. It's unbelievable how well the fans treated so.
Speaker 3: I mean, say, y'all earned it, y'all.
Speaker 4: I think so. I think so. But also we had
Speaker 4: fans that understood football. They understood when was playing good.
Speaker 4: They knew when, they knew when the cheer, they knew
Speaker 4: when to be quiet. You know, they just knew when
Speaker 4: to help us win the football game at the end
Speaker 4: of the day. And twelfth Man, I mean it truly
Speaker 4: is a real thing. Some people say it's just you know,
Speaker 4: the twelfth Man is a real thing because you need
Speaker 4: to get geek for a gig. You know, you need
Speaker 4: you need that energy to come into you to allow
Speaker 4: you to come out there and make plays that typically
Speaker 4: you make play. I mean from perfect examples like Tanner
Speaker 4: in that Cowboy game. I call him a Cowboy killer.
Speaker 4: U it was back to back yeah, Now, I guarantee
Speaker 4: you felt like you could run through a wall, You
Speaker 4: felt like you could run through anything.
Speaker 2: And Mario Brothers with the Mushroom.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean that's just you guys. Know, when you
Speaker 4: make plays that league to making your team help your
Speaker 4: team will win a football game, and there's nothing like
Speaker 4: it other Dan parenthood, of course.
Speaker 1: And obviously it's one of the reasons is because we're
Speaker 1: the best fans in the league, right they're all out here,
Speaker 1: and we want to reward you guys because we've got
Speaker 1: some merch. Hanna, put your hand up over there. If
Speaker 1: you want merch, go see Hannah. We get themand forces
Speaker 1: here command force that had everybody real quick. And then
Speaker 1: Major Tuddy's here. Look at this guy.
Speaker 3: Did you see he's trimmed up. Teddy is now?
Speaker 1: Oh, tell he's Sonny. You'd be quiet, though, Fred telling
Speaker 1: you be quiet, you're giving away his secrets.
Speaker 3: Right hey, listen, he's trimmed up. He didn trimmed up
Speaker 3: and live it. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Does he look thinner? Fans, you think he looks thinner?
Speaker 1: Does he look the same?
Speaker 2: He looks like he is. Shake like. We're whipping everything
Speaker 2: back in shape right now. We could We couldn't.
Speaker 3: We couldn't have no holl did you know had to good?
Speaker 3: We couldn't do that, all right, So we got it.
Speaker 1: So guys, make sure you get your merch over there,
Speaker 1: and obviously, if you want to keep up with the
Speaker 1: RFK Stadium news, visit Commanders dot com slash new Stadium.
Speaker 1: You can sign up to learn more and show your
Speaker 1: support because again, you know hearing these stories like I
Speaker 1: don't know how you don't want to get back at
Speaker 1: r FK, and like, let's make sure the ownership knows
Speaker 1: that we want to be back over there. All right,
Speaker 1: So today this is a fan driven show rout here
Speaker 1: amongst the people at the muniy which is actually a
Speaker 1: pretty cool spot. Man. Like they got like golf stuff
Speaker 1: in the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was shocked.
Speaker 5: I saw you throwing a football back. I did a
Speaker 5: little tool. I mean, I didn't do well. What do
Speaker 5: you need to do well? Because I mean, we'll talk.
Speaker 2: About it later. But it is a nice part that I.
Speaker 5: Could see myself coming back and bring a couple of
Speaker 5: friends and have a nice outing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was cool.
Speaker 1: They got like a digital quarterback thing and fred hu's
Speaker 1: your golf game.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's pretty good. They caught me smooth
Speaker 2: d Shambo. There you go check check check out out
Speaker 2: Land episode.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure y'all saw the last episode of y'all.
Speaker 5: Y'all saw that.
Speaker 2: Fred is always lying. If you don't believe, tell who is?
Speaker 2: You gotta believe in yourself.
Speaker 1: You have enough belief for everybody, seriously, you need it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, to make a mailback. So basically, fans submitted questions.
Speaker 1: If you guys who are here want to ask questions,
Speaker 1: you go up to produce Rana. She's gonna vet the
Speaker 1: questions because they don't have any weird questions. So it's
Speaker 1: about the questions. We get that cleaned up. We're gonna
Speaker 1: start with our first question. It's from Darren. Would you
Speaker 1: rather win more games by luck or win less? But
Speaker 1: those wins are dominant. So the way I look at
Speaker 1: it is like you got a twelve win season where
Speaker 1: you just roll everybody. You're like a bulldozer. You got
Speaker 1: a couple of bad losses in there, whatever, and then
Speaker 1: you got a fourteen win season where hey man, we
Speaker 1: were on the last possession, it's here whatever, I don't
Speaker 1: know what do you think?
Speaker 3: They had this conversation on the radio a couple of
Speaker 3: days ago about look, and I all most lost it
Speaker 3: and jumped out my Kyle on the belt way of
Speaker 3: start running right, Because in sports you make your own look.
Speaker 3: Our look come with preparation and how we prepare, and
Speaker 3: guess what, sometime the ball just bounces your way. Think
Speaker 3: about this. Everybody say that the closed hand game with
Speaker 3: Tom Brady was Look, well he rolled.
Speaker 2: Out six more Super Bowls after that.
Speaker 3: Look, every great team has these lucky players, and I
Speaker 3: don't want to hear it that we manifested this. Look,
Speaker 3: it's part of when you got good energy and good
Speaker 3: chill around you, things just bounce your way.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what luck feel like. Look, ain't
Speaker 2: never did nothing for me.
Speaker 1: That's something players say all the time.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in luck, but sometimes got to have
Speaker 1: a little bit, get a little bit lucky. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the ball, I say, not luck. The ball just rolled
Speaker 1: that way.
Speaker 2: I mean you got to think about it too. If
Speaker 2: it's luck, though, Fred, you can't.
Speaker 5: Cornify how many years have we been sit in that
Speaker 5: same position and it didn't bounce our You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, So twenty years I'm all for when it does.
Speaker 5: And I think Fred has a little right to what
Speaker 5: he said is about sometime when you prepare the way
Speaker 5: that this team has prepared last year, or what was
Speaker 5: prepared last year when that when that ball bouncing your way,
Speaker 5: you're ready for it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, me and my brother couldn' attest to this. We
Speaker 5: had a high school coach and he had a favorite
Speaker 5: sin saying what it was nor opportunity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, opportunity favors to prepare.
Speaker 5: See, so there you go, like when when when you're
Speaker 5: prepared for that, for that, for that moment, Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: not luck normal because.
Speaker 2: You was waking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you anticipated this this time. You do one day
Speaker 5: you might be built this card and you was ready
Speaker 5: for it. So that's why I look at our season
Speaker 5: last year, people.
Speaker 2: Say the hell Noah that we had the hell Mary.
Speaker 3: Was Look when I say, I watched these guys practice
Speaker 3: this play all the time. So they practiced it, they
Speaker 3: esecuted it.
Speaker 2: It ain't looked to me Gary a big luck.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm kind of like Fred. I think you
Speaker 4: do create your own you're prepared to have good luck.
Speaker 4: And but and you do Like like Fred, we practiced
Speaker 4: the hell married the whole time all day.
Speaker 1: But like, how many times in practice do you miss it?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like a lot of.
Speaker 2: Time we never caught one. We practiced it every week, but.
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of times, a lot of
Speaker 4: times you miss it. But it's the same thing a lot.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you've missed at tackles. Sometimes you missed. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of things that you do. But the more you
Speaker 4: practice it, the better you're prepared for it. Yeah, in
Speaker 4: that situation. But I'm more like just when I don't
Speaker 4: care if we want by luck or we won by skill.
Speaker 4: I just want to win. Here it does win, baby,
Speaker 4: That's what I look at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously getting more wins is nice, but
Speaker 1: there's something I think back to, like the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when they were just rolling people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there's something that to be said for just like dominant,
Speaker 1: like win in by twenty point wins.
Speaker 2: I know, but people called it. Look I call it
Speaker 2: the team. No no, no, But.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I'm saying, is it better to be lucky.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about dominate. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to dominate though. If all was giving a choice between, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I mean, if you want me to answer that question.
Speaker 5: Dominate, I would I would rather dominate. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 5: want to be lucky. But like I said, some games,
Speaker 5: like even those dominant teams, Yeah, like say Instan my
Speaker 5: my Hurricane team my senior year, Yeah we lost that.
Speaker 5: We lost the one game against Washington earlier in the season,
Speaker 5: but we beat everybody else. That Florida State game could
Speaker 5: have easily been a loss for us if it don't
Speaker 5: go wide.
Speaker 2: Right, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You might call that lucky, but guess what, you know what,
Speaker 5: we won the game. So I would rather be dominant
Speaker 5: then be lucky. But sometime you need to kanadak y'all dominant.
Speaker 3: If you dominate all year and you're not playing in
Speaker 3: tight games, what happened when you get to the playoffs
Speaker 3: and all the games are tight. I'm ready to be
Speaker 3: that team that's been winning at the end of games
Speaker 3: because it proved favor for us last year because when
Speaker 3: we got in those times in the games, we was unbothered.
Speaker 2: We was ready for that.
Speaker 3: Like right now, Okay, see playing against the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 3: The Pacers been winning tight games all year, okayse been
Speaker 3: blowing people out, and right now that's working in the
Speaker 3: favor of the Indiana Pacers because they've been playing tight
Speaker 3: games all year long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with that Careerah, but like it's always nice
Speaker 1: to beat somebody by twenty I think. And again it's
Speaker 1: luck is good. I don't care about the luck. Like ultimately,
Speaker 1: you want to win more games than you lose. However
Speaker 1: you get there, like get there. Yeah, I mean, Garrett,
Speaker 1: you feel the same way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now I was. I mean, it's fortunately my first
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. We want them, we want the most dominant
Speaker 4: team in the league. At that point, oaon, we weren't.
Speaker 4: Where's fortunate that we went away?
Speaker 3: Year was a pop quiz No date yourself?
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, it's okay.
Speaker 2: It was nam y one, the year of our sweet team.
Speaker 2: I was born.
Speaker 4: I was born in eighty seven, by the way, just
Speaker 4: to get that's the season though, that was eighty seven
Speaker 4: season is the eighty seven season, so that's what it was.
Speaker 4: And but we took our but we started playing great
Speaker 4: football at the end of the season. Ninety one, we
Speaker 4: just we just dominated this.
Speaker 2: Most dominant team domination.
Speaker 1: So which season was better?
Speaker 4: I mean, we enjoyed the ninety one season, I mean
Speaker 4: just because ninety one the swag was a little different.
Speaker 4: You know, we walked onto the field we expected to
Speaker 4: kick your ass. We just expected it. We expected it,
Speaker 4: and sometimes that plays against you, though, too, because it
Speaker 4: took us actually getting our butt beat, unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Against I was going to ask you about that.
Speaker 5: I think Mitch explained to me or or told me
Speaker 5: one day that that ninety one team. Yeah, y'all rolled everybody,
Speaker 5: But it was one game that Ya took.
Speaker 4: A good check and Dallas, I mean, and we held
Speaker 4: Mary in the freaking first half and God claims comes
Speaker 4: down with it. Yeah, everybody were just looking. I was like,
Speaker 4: but we were arrogant. We went into the game er again,
Speaker 4: we went the whole thing was Erica. They had just
Speaker 4: did a big thing on us on NBC or CBS
Speaker 4: one of the networks about how great we were, and
Speaker 4: then we go in there and we find out we
Speaker 4: were as good as we thought we were.
Speaker 2: From that game, though, how was the bounce back from that?
Speaker 4: Honesty? Our team was just so good. But we should
Speaker 4: have won that game. I mean, we should have went undefeated.
Speaker 4: That we should have We should have had the perfect
Speaker 4: the perfect season. We were that good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, really, y'all let the Dolphins off the hook.
Speaker 4: Oh man, man, let them off the hook. We should
Speaker 4: have been and that that's the part that made us
Speaker 4: so made everybody play butter because it was pissed off
Speaker 4: that we lost that game and we shouldn't have.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. We just got a fan question from Shari.
Speaker 1: What motivates you the most? Your love for the game,
Speaker 1: your teammates, or the fans that cheer you on every week.
Speaker 1: And it was interesting hearing you talk about that because
Speaker 1: you were talking out what creates motivation? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think it's kind of related to that question,
Speaker 1: where do you find your motivation?
Speaker 2: Because I think, like I.
Speaker 1: Read this question, it seems like a lot of external stuff.
Speaker 1: But as a player, and I've heard Tanna talk about this,
Speaker 1: I always found it was internally motivated more than anything.
Speaker 2: For me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it was teammates first, fan second, ownership third,
Speaker 4: And that's that's the way I looked at it. The
Speaker 4: teammates that you bled with and every day, but we
Speaker 4: also had expectations for one another. If you didn't meet
Speaker 4: our expectations on the team, we got in your face. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean we just did. And and it was no
Speaker 4: like man, none of it. Yeah, No, nobody was like
Speaker 4: piss up. It's more like my bad dude, I need
Speaker 4: to get going because that's when when we're getting in
Speaker 4: your face. It's not it's to say you're not playing
Speaker 4: the way you should play, like how we know you
Speaker 4: can play. But sometimes now kids today though, they may
Speaker 4: want to actually getting like a fistfight about it back
Speaker 4: and forth. If somebody say hey, if you're not playing
Speaker 4: that well, and they take it personally, know they just
Speaker 4: being honest. You're not playing that well. You know, we Tanna,
Speaker 4: we saw you school of those two touchdowns back to
Speaker 4: the basket against Dallas, so we know how great you can.
Speaker 5: How you can played that way every week all the
Speaker 5: time to day. Yeah, you know, and mine was more
Speaker 5: and mine was more internal. I think I've always was
Speaker 5: self driven, especially when you have the upcomings of, you know,
Speaker 5: of a guy that's been told all your life.
Speaker 2: Is you can't, you can't, You're not you can't.
Speaker 5: So you know, I was always determined to go out
Speaker 5: there and prove people wrong. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: I never really cared about proving them wrong. I just
Speaker 5: wanted to show myself that man, don't don't allow that
Speaker 5: to affect my mindset, my thought process. On the other
Speaker 5: part of that, the fans. You know, you know I
Speaker 5: beatter talk to y'all when I was in the locker room.
Speaker 2: WHI y'all, I'm just kidding. No, I love them, I
Speaker 2: love my teammates.
Speaker 5: I went out there and played every game just to
Speaker 5: make sure that they can look.
Speaker 2: At me and I can hold my head high in
Speaker 2: that locker room.
Speaker 5: But I wouldn't allow myself to leave a game or
Speaker 5: a stadium without giving the fans what they came to see.
Speaker 5: That's how I always felt, So I will always say
Speaker 5: that I going turningly.
Speaker 2: First.
Speaker 5: I was always driven, and then I wanted to make
Speaker 5: sure that every fan that came to that that paid their.
Speaker 2: Hard earned money that game, they got to show.
Speaker 5: And even if I ain't give them a show, I
Speaker 5: went out there for hard until I saw them zeros
Speaker 5: on that clock.
Speaker 2: I'm glad, maryon Barry.
Speaker 3: The two kids just gave y'all their political right answer.
Speaker 2: They just gave y'all.
Speaker 3: We know you didn't care about nobody, Cris, So let
Speaker 3: me set the tone in the truth we already know.
Speaker 2: Hey, I went out there one because I had for myself.
Speaker 2: I had fun. I had fun playing game. Okay, I
Speaker 2: had fun walking into that stadium.
Speaker 3: I smiled from the time the game started till the
Speaker 3: game was over with. I have never had a real
Speaker 3: job in my life, yet I'm still talking about the
Speaker 3: kids game and two the fans. It's nothing like I
Speaker 3: can't buy it Adrillingine no more. I can't find it
Speaker 3: in the grocery store. I can't find a plan golf.
Speaker 3: He's nothing like having eighty thousands fans screaming your name
Speaker 3: at one time. You can't. You can't manifest it nowhere else.
Speaker 3: The sport, this environment, in the environment of itself. So
Speaker 3: when I'm hearing it and the ground started shaking, where
Speaker 3: can I find that at nowhere else? So it's the
Speaker 3: whole experience. It's the stadium experience, and it's a chance
Speaker 3: to leave a dream that's not promised for everybody. So
Speaker 3: I never took it for granted.
Speaker 4: And I said that too though, no.
Speaker 2: Sugar too, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3: They got up here and sent you no way. By golly,
Speaker 3: it was all for y'all. You know this, But it
Speaker 3: was all for y'all. Who gave the best Who gave
Speaker 3: the best answer?
Speaker 2: Was it Fred? Gary Fans? What do you think who
Speaker 2: gave the best answer? Thank you. I appreciate, d'all.
Speaker 1: Don't even know what you said.
Speaker 2: Let's get to the next question.
Speaker 1: Linda asked what strategy led to the significant reduction in
Speaker 1: penalties last season?
Speaker 2: So let real quick before we get started.
Speaker 1: Last year was about what it was the year before,
Speaker 1: and was about what it was the year before that.
Speaker 1: So it's been about the league average for about four
Speaker 1: consecutive years. What I will say, I think this question
Speaker 1: leads to is a perception. Right when the team does well, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think fans focus less on the negatives.
Speaker 3: And I think the negatives didn't come at the inappropriate
Speaker 3: time sure like, because the team is coached so well
Speaker 3: in so disciplined. They didn't let those mega mistakes that
Speaker 3: we used to make in our time. In this fourth
Speaker 3: quarter with two minutes left, were driving the ball and
Speaker 3: here we go, get a holding penity and now instead
Speaker 3: of first and team, it's first and twenty and we
Speaker 3: behind the chains and we just stuck ourselves in the foot.
Speaker 2: They did not do that this year.
Speaker 3: And plus, like you said, with the winning, because when
Speaker 3: something strength, the best deodining is winning, and that's what
Speaker 3: they did. You don't notice some stink sometime until you
Speaker 3: know ain't no winning involved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Gary. If people talk all about the penalties
Speaker 1: you had when you were here when winning games, probably not.
Speaker 4: I don't think we were. We won times soever. At
Speaker 4: the end of the yeah, we can't say the same.
Speaker 1: He didn't have.
Speaker 2: He didn't have, He didn't have the problems we had.
Speaker 4: I never went through this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he never went through the dark times we went through.
Speaker 5: See, I heard the problems was more with Gary because
Speaker 5: Gary cursed everybody out.
Speaker 3: That was the problems was what everybody leading their own way,
Speaker 3: you know, you was more quiet, more like just following me.
Speaker 3: Fletch would say his speech before the game, spit on
Speaker 3: half of the defense everybody had. They were Yeah, if
Speaker 3: you ain't been spit on by Lenning to Fletcher, you
Speaker 3: ain't playing NFL. That's the way this game goes. You
Speaker 3: gotta just to sell people for however they want to do.
Speaker 5: So what was the question again, I want to Fred
Speaker 5: made me lose train of thought.
Speaker 1: No, No, So basically the question was why were there
Speaker 1: less penalties than there were the last year I got
Speaker 1: There weren't actually.
Speaker 2: Less it was it was, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't think it was less, but I think also
Speaker 5: Fred hitting on the head. Years before that you would
Speaker 5: see it because there was no winning behind it, and
Speaker 5: it was like a domino effect. Once one occurred, it
Speaker 5: was more after each other, and before you know it,
Speaker 5: they stuck themself in the foot or in the toe
Speaker 5: and they found themself in a situation where they're punting
Speaker 5: the ball or they're just not getting no production out
Speaker 5: of that. That drive last year was a total difference.
Speaker 5: You saw the pennies, it was it was spurts though.
Speaker 5: It was games where they had the penalties. There was
Speaker 5: games they didn't and the game they had the pendies.
Speaker 2: It was like that Giants game. The Giants game was
Speaker 2: the game that.
Speaker 5: They could have easily lost their game, but they found
Speaker 5: the way to win by just kicking.
Speaker 2: Off field goals.
Speaker 5: That shows you that that team was kind of built
Speaker 5: in a different way any means necessary.
Speaker 2: They understood that even when they're.
Speaker 5: Not playing their best, they can find a way to
Speaker 5: win the game. So I think that that stood out
Speaker 5: more than anything last year because our team was was
Speaker 5: so well defined throughout as like on every level that
Speaker 5: they could win even when they're not having their best game.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the next question. So what
Speaker 1: we got, Oh, Major Tuddy? What we got? It's like
Speaker 1: a ballot coming in. We got. What is your favorite
Speaker 1: thing about Major Tuddy? So little self serving? This is
Speaker 1: from Teddy himself, is it?
Speaker 2: Fred?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite things?
Speaker 2: Struh? He smells like bake.
Speaker 1: He smells like bake. And that's a good one. Tuddy,
Speaker 1: you do smell like baked. You cannot, you can not
Speaker 1: what you got a favorite thing?
Speaker 4: It looks like a receiver. That's my saying.
Speaker 2: He's strimming up.
Speaker 1: I like the fade. Actually, that's my favorite thing about me.
Speaker 2: You got.
Speaker 5: My favorite thing from Tuddy is the doubt every time
Speaker 5: I see Teddy. Teddy gave me a nice pound that let.
Speaker 2: Me know who he is.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna say, I ain't gonna tell nobody who
Speaker 5: he is, but you I know from my pound. But
Speaker 5: that's my favorite thing about Teddy Tuddy.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. What a great question. I think
Speaker 1: the fans really want to know what that really family
Speaker 1: did question? Uncle Lou, who are you most impressed with
Speaker 1: of the year two guys? Rookies and ud face? So
Speaker 1: before get started? Yeah right, Tanda, why don't you take
Speaker 1: the year two guys? Fred wanted to shake the rookies
Speaker 1: because you're the draft guru.
Speaker 2: You are right.
Speaker 1: I gotta say that you're right. I'll take the UFAs
Speaker 1: and Gary, you say quiet, You say whoever you are
Speaker 1: you are most impressed with?
Speaker 2: So tany you want to starve with your two guys, Okay,
Speaker 2: I start with your two guys. But I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna answer this the way that Uncle Lou wants it,
Speaker 5: because he asking me who am I more impressed with?
Speaker 5: And it's hard to be impressed when you really ain't
Speaker 5: doing much. When they peel a fire, but they still
Speaker 5: they still out there, just preparing, getting themself ready. But
Speaker 5: I will say this, it's a guy who I spoke
Speaker 5: about last year that didn't get a lot of planning time.
Speaker 5: We know why, and this year you might not get
Speaker 5: a lot of planning time. But when he gets in
Speaker 5: the game, just knowing who he's behind, I'm sure you
Speaker 5: guys are gonna be three lled to see what he
Speaker 5: has in store.
Speaker 2: And I would say that job that guy is Jordan McGee. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: my guys loved him since Stay Walking.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: It just I mean, you know how like when you
Speaker 5: remember back when we was kids and you got those
Speaker 5: those action figures and how they was creating you and
Speaker 5: you actually wanted to draw those guys like I remember
Speaker 5: drawing he Man, and just every muscle and every cul
Speaker 5: when you look at Jordan McGue, that's how you look,
Speaker 5: you know, and and and I and I say, paulse
Speaker 5: to that because I don't want to be talking about about.
Speaker 2: A grown man like that.
Speaker 3: But he put together real well man, and you sure
Speaker 3: share problem.
Speaker 2: I also know you can play some good football, so
Speaker 2: it's a safe space. It's a safe space.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: You guys are my brother, so I feel like.
Speaker 5: You and the fans know me, so you know, I
Speaker 5: could talk about this guy like that, But I also
Speaker 5: believe to being behind a guy like Wagner just getting
Speaker 5: that experience, just.
Speaker 2: Getting all that.
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure he's he's he's teaching them everything he knows.
Speaker 5: And just not only that, just watching that guy. You
Speaker 5: remember how you talked about when you came in. You
Speaker 5: had Dion in a room, you had Champ in a room,
Speaker 5: you had Derek Breen in the room, and a young.
Speaker 2: Smooth was just sitting there as a sponge man.
Speaker 5: You just picked up everything, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: You went out there and had one of your better
Speaker 5: years your career, your rookie year. Joy didn't get a
Speaker 5: chance to play yes much last year. So just imagine
Speaker 5: sitting behind a guy like Waggener being the guy that
Speaker 5: is the specimen that he is, what he has in store,
Speaker 5: so I can't wait to see what he hasn't started yet. Yeah,
Speaker 5: all right, we want to talk about the rookies. I
Speaker 5: got to start with that most impressive, Yeah, most impressive.
Speaker 3: Like I am really impressed with Connerley Junior, So I
Speaker 3: want to start with our first round pick first, all right,
Speaker 3: because he's a guy playing left talca is a very
Speaker 3: hard thing to do as a young guy.
Speaker 2: But from what I'm hearing's.
Speaker 1: I'm honestly surprised you didn't say trademos you've been talking about.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for so much that was all said.
Speaker 1: I feel like you just sabotaged this whole show.
Speaker 2: Hang that was low hanging through.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the positions that's not sexy.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the position you don't know
Speaker 3: you needed until you need it and it's too late.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about the position that when Gary
Speaker 3: was playing, they was called the Hogs, and now we
Speaker 3: got a group called the Wild Boards, and they have
Speaker 3: the ability to have I think three to four Pro
Speaker 3: bowlers on this office easily, especially if Conley Junior turns
Speaker 3: into what we think he can become the athlete that
Speaker 3: he would become. If you dominate the trenches, you dominate games,
Speaker 3: and if you dominate games, you win championships.
Speaker 2: So I'm going with Connolly all right.
Speaker 1: Most definitely, Gary, you have somebody you just can't wait
Speaker 1: to watch in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Feet with Tennis set and I agree with happen all right,
Speaker 4: he can I don't really agree with what you said.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. Awesome, man, you can't wait to see
Speaker 2: Trey Aymes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: I got UDFA. So the UDFA that suck out to
Speaker 1: me probably the most is Robert McDaniels from Jackson State.
Speaker 1: So he's like six to two hundred pounds, kind of
Speaker 1: that hybrid safety linebacker type, and I just feel like
Speaker 1: he's got a good shot to make the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah on special teams.
Speaker 1: Now, like Tennis said, it's OT's in mini camps, so
Speaker 1: they haven't really done anything yet, which leads us. I
Speaker 1: think really nice scene to the next question, which is
Speaker 1: from Justin. Who's here, Justin? Are you around here? Hand up?
Speaker 2: Yes, Justin fan question excellent what he got?
Speaker 1: So thirty or thirty two teams opt in for joint
Speaker 1: practices one of the and disadvantages and why wouldn't the
Speaker 1: chiefs opt in for joint practice. So the reason to
Speaker 1: bring that up is because I think joint practices are
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to evaluate way better than dudio things
Speaker 1: specifically right young guys. And it's an opportunity to kind
Speaker 1: of get practice reps. Yeah, get preseason reps in a
Speaker 1: practice setting. Yeah, so you're keeping guys safe and getting
Speaker 1: that situational work at a high level.
Speaker 3: I think you can actually do higher level exercises and
Speaker 3: actually run more plays in a practice that you can in.
Speaker 2: The preseason game. There's no film, Yes, it's no film
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: So now we get to get really get edit against
Speaker 3: another team. And I think you can actually make a
Speaker 3: team at one of these joint practices before making plays
Speaker 3: before you can in the preseason game.
Speaker 2: I really do feel like that setting is a harder
Speaker 2: send in.
Speaker 3: The preseason game, and you get more working from positional
Speaker 3: groups and you get more working from offensive defensive groups.
Speaker 1: Gary, did you joint practices when you're playing or is
Speaker 1: it just like go kill yourselves up at camp? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: we heres a double day as the whole thing, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did three Did you really three days? Dude?
Speaker 4: I got a training camp.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gott sorry about wonding Fletcher. Fletcher came
Speaker 1: up to me. It's like, hey man, we used to
Speaker 1: do three days all the time. And then four or
Speaker 1: five years later, asking about it again, he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we never did three days, and then I.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I was with the last team that went to Carlisle Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: You did carl Out Pennsylvania the entire time, and it
Speaker 3: was I never knew Pennsylvania could.
Speaker 2: Be that hot. Not definite Pensvan.
Speaker 4: You got to go training camp stories, Gary, Training, I
Speaker 4: mean training camps. I mean there was a lot of
Speaker 4: fighting in training camp because exactly that's you had like
Speaker 4: four to six weeks to try to make the team. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, because typically for the coaches, they preset their
Speaker 4: roster pretty much. So as a rookie, you're trying to
Speaker 4: come in and make your place on the team. You're
Speaker 4: trying to do something that allows you to stand out,
Speaker 4: so the coaches recognized who you are and recognize that
Speaker 4: you can play that game. So training camp, we hated it.
Speaker 4: It's Carlile Pennsylvania. But was the best saying because we
Speaker 4: all bonded together because we hated it. We hated it together.
Speaker 4: We were headed against So we would get together and
Speaker 4: talk and hang out and talk about how hard practice
Speaker 4: was that day in the whole nine yards. But I mean,
Speaker 4: and we there, I mean I would love to play
Speaker 4: today's game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they don't.
Speaker 4: They don't practice exactly. You don't put on paths anymore.
Speaker 4: So it's a little different thing. But you know, everything
Speaker 4: changes at time, but just what it does.
Speaker 1: To that point, I do think joint practice you're getting
Speaker 1: back to Justice's question, allows for some of that intensity
Speaker 1: to ramp up, right. So that's why it's a good tool, right,
Speaker 1: more drills, higher speed, more more play specific stuff, more
Speaker 1: situational stuff. So it's a great opportunity.
Speaker 2: All right, next question, But you don't like.
Speaker 1: Joint practice, Well no, you know, but no one likes
Speaker 1: no one likes trading can received.
Speaker 2: Was don't like that practice? We don't have to talk
Speaker 2: about it, but we can go through this. I want
Speaker 2: to hear what you mean.
Speaker 5: I heard you talk about the people I was gonna say,
Speaker 5: y'all heard me tell y'all why so joint practice.
Speaker 2: To me, there's a few guys that needed.
Speaker 5: Those guys want a bubble, those those undrafted free agent.
Speaker 2: So I understand for those.
Speaker 5: Guys who say, yeah, I love those practices, But for
Speaker 5: a guy like myself, what am I'm getting out of it.
Speaker 5: I'm in a practice, a glorified practice that Gary just
Speaker 5: spoke on it.
Speaker 2: We fight throughout practices. I'm fighting guys.
Speaker 5: On my own team, so you know what I'm gonna
Speaker 5: do with a guy on the opposite So when you're
Speaker 5: going through drills and a joint practice, you're going through
Speaker 5: a regular practice, and then we blow the whistling and
Speaker 5: say now let's go live. It's hard to get up
Speaker 5: into a game setting after I just went up through
Speaker 5: all these individual.
Speaker 2: Drills, one on ones, you know.
Speaker 5: All this routes on air, and then now I got
Speaker 5: to go play a game against another you know, opponent,
Speaker 5: and I gotta put it on tape.
Speaker 2: It's in the same day, it's in the in the
Speaker 2: same practice. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So that's why, from my opinion, I just don't like
Speaker 5: joint practice. I think that I don't get nothing out
Speaker 5: of it. I feel like I'd be exhausted at the
Speaker 5: end of the day and then I'm sitting there watching
Speaker 5: myself on tape. Puts bas st up on tape half
Speaker 5: of the time. Yeah, but gets a lot out of it.
Speaker 2: Is player.
Speaker 1: I'm with you because I didn't like him either, but
Speaker 1: it is like it is a good tool to help
Speaker 1: with the ADVENTU.
Speaker 5: Love watching the other guys compete, though you know I
Speaker 5: did definitely who wasn't going to probably get.
Speaker 4: Coach the other talent that they got because they already know,
Speaker 4: like know, they already know for the most part, who's
Speaker 4: going to be on the roster to keep. They're waiting
Speaker 4: to be surprised by somebody that makes him be like,
Speaker 4: where did this guy come from?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: This guy's extremely good. Next thing, you know, he's pushing
Speaker 4: to get into the start line up. You didn't though
Speaker 4: he existed really beforehand, That's what I mean. And our
Speaker 4: team we did really well. When people talk to us
Speaker 4: like that's what really got got y'all got.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely getting that vite from this conversation, kind of
Speaker 1: like getting shirt rite.
Speaker 4: They love somebody.
Speaker 2: It ain't just me this time. I got my guy
Speaker 2: with me, receivers with the party man. I got, Oh
Speaker 2: my bad, don't apologize, don't apologize my bad. We love
Speaker 2: the company command.
Speaker 4: No, I'm a deacon son. I was not supposed to
Speaker 4: come out.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting you say that, because it's like it
Speaker 1: allows coaches to see guys who need to develop. I
Speaker 1: think that leads us nice nicely to brad first question,
Speaker 1: which is how long are you willing to wait for
Speaker 1: players to develop before cutting bait before moving on? And
Speaker 1: I think we've all played with guys who've been around
Speaker 1: way longer than they should have been. Yeah, and also
Speaker 1: bet around guys who were cut too early. Yes, correct, yea.
Speaker 1: And so if you're a coach, if you're a GM, like,
Speaker 1: what makes a guy stick around the roster and what
Speaker 1: makes a guy get out of here quick?
Speaker 5: So one of the things I would say is the
Speaker 5: first question was asked, how long are you wanting to wait?
Speaker 2: I have a three year period.
Speaker 5: I think I have a three year period to see
Speaker 5: my guys become pros. You know, I give them that grace.
Speaker 5: And I'm not saying this because it's just something that
Speaker 5: popped up in my head. I feel like since I
Speaker 5: entered the league, I watched guys that was either that
Speaker 5: came in with me or that came in after me
Speaker 5: that I watched. It took them a up into three years.
Speaker 5: Some guys got it in year one, some guys got
Speaker 5: in year two.
Speaker 2: Some guys hit it dead on the head in year three.
Speaker 5: So I think you give them that grace period for
Speaker 5: three years, and then you say, okay, now that this
Speaker 5: third year gonna make it a break them, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean? And I found I found out as
Speaker 5: a wide receiver, a lot of us kind of matured
Speaker 5: by year three.
Speaker 2: Like my class in two thousand and one.
Speaker 5: I believe Chad and Snoop Minutes was the first two
Speaker 5: guys that jumped off on the streen and kind of
Speaker 5: went out there and dominated in year one and then
Speaker 5: by oh, well, I think Steve Smith went to a
Speaker 5: pro bow, but he went to a probo as a
Speaker 5: kick return yeah, but as a receiver, year three he
Speaker 5: had one thousand yards. Year three for myself, I had
Speaker 5: a thousand yards. You see what I'm saying so, but
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if that's just by player or by
Speaker 5: the team allowing us to do more about that year.
Speaker 5: So I kind of would want to give every guy
Speaker 5: like around that same grape period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's that's a really good point.
Speaker 1: Ten is it does take. I mean, offensive linemen have
Speaker 1: a similar arc. It's like year three, year fours when
Speaker 1: they kind of start hitting their stride. I think they
Speaker 1: used to the speed of the game. Things like that.
Speaker 1: The thing that I think keeps guys on rosters, though,
Speaker 1: is the P word, which is potential. If you're a
Speaker 1: big athletic, good mover, they're gonna find a way to
Speaker 1: keep you around on the roster, hoping that they figure
Speaker 1: it out with you, because I don't want to cut
Speaker 1: that freaky tall athletic guy with long arms and say,
Speaker 1: oh he goes to Detroit and then well, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: So I think that for me, Fred, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you feel about it, but that's one that sticks
Speaker 1: out to me.
Speaker 3: Well, I think everything is about case by case bases,
Speaker 3: let's be honest. Because I've watched the team give a
Speaker 3: guy like Chris Clemens time to development, he develops into
Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl in to another team. I have watched
Speaker 3: teams give up on a wide receiver just a lit
Speaker 3: bit too early because that they needed a roster spot.
Speaker 3: So I think it has a lot to do with
Speaker 3: how much success do you have. The successful teams usually
Speaker 3: have a lot more patience than uns successful teams when
Speaker 3: it comes to projects because they usually got their guys,
Speaker 3: They got their baseline guys.
Speaker 2: But if I got a Taytan.
Speaker 3: Door, it's gonna be hard for me to hold on
Speaker 3: to that project before somebody else reached the potential that
Speaker 3: I couldn't do because we didn't have the patience. So
Speaker 3: it has to be patience meets potential like that go
Speaker 3: to the equation for me?
Speaker 1: No, I think that's one hundred percent right, And I
Speaker 1: think this is interesting. Gary. Maybe in talking about your development,
Speaker 1: we got a question from JC and he says, how
Speaker 1: how was it playing along alongside Art Monk and what
Speaker 1: teammates helped you develop in your process?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So, like I think about we just talked about how
Speaker 1: long do you guys stick around? I think about how
Speaker 1: informative other players were in my career. How about Art
Speaker 1: Monk and some other guys that helped you along the
Speaker 1: way and how was it playing the next next Art Monk,
Speaker 1: Who's Hall of Famer?
Speaker 4: I mean Art was just a I mean when I
Speaker 4: first came to Washington, the passing game was completely built
Speaker 4: around Art.
Speaker 1: Oh really?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was a hund percent built around Art.
Speaker 2: So did he play like your true like x outside.
Speaker 4: Now, I was the extacy. He was the guy with
Speaker 4: go in motion movement, you know, I mean he was
Speaker 4: He was better off the ball than somebody's on the
Speaker 4: line of skim because on a line of scrims you
Speaker 4: gotta get away right now. You still going in the motion.
Speaker 4: You gotta get away now, and you gotta be quick. Art. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so with Art, but I mean to me, I mean, he's,
Speaker 4: if not the best, one of the best. Actually, I
Speaker 4: think Charlie Taylor is the best we ever had at
Speaker 4: that position. I think Art is second. Uh, I think
Speaker 4: Tanner's third.
Speaker 1: Get out of here man Tennis third.
Speaker 2: I'd be somewhere like five six.
Speaker 4: To play the play, to play at the speed that
Speaker 4: you play for the amount of years that you play, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean the evere slight span. When you guys are
Speaker 4: to the ever slight spans only three years when we
Speaker 4: played was only three years. It's three and a half
Speaker 4: years now, So I mean, if you don't do it,
Speaker 4: then three years ass it's gone anyhow at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, if you don't show so to have
Speaker 4: the type of career that you have tanna at that position. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean like for example, my hamstrings were shot by
Speaker 4: my im my third year. Quite honest, I able to
Speaker 4: play with a lot of pain. I was always I
Speaker 4: was okay playing with pain. But I mean that's just
Speaker 4: it's hard to play that position at that level for
Speaker 4: that amount of time, for that for that amount of years.
Speaker 4: But Art Monk is one hundred. I mean when we
Speaker 4: came in, he was like a god to the receivers.
Speaker 4: Like I mean, it was Art Monk. We're saying, well,
Speaker 4: west Bring, that's so.
Speaker 2: Was he there before you?
Speaker 4: He was there. He was there five years before me.
Speaker 1: So he was like an established.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean that's what offense was built. Your
Speaker 4: office has already built, how is it?
Speaker 3: Because i'd been around now three of y'all like sitting
Speaker 3: at the table, and I asked y'all every question you remember,
Speaker 3: I posed, he what happen if y'all three versus me,
Speaker 3: Champ and d Green. We had that conversation, but I
Speaker 3: noticed Art just so quiet.
Speaker 2: I mean, so did you have to study.
Speaker 3: Him more to kind of pick up on his stof
Speaker 3: because it's just naturally a quiet guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and because he was such a different
Speaker 4: physique than I was, it was a different type of study.
Speaker 4: I looked at how disciplined he was about about how
Speaker 4: he went about his job. That's what I picked up
Speaker 4: from Mark. Because I'm a completely different friend than our
Speaker 4: I was not gonna be able to do the same
Speaker 4: thing that Art. Like Art six three two hundred and
Speaker 4: fifteen two and twenty pounds, he could just hit you
Speaker 4: off the line and didn't get open me. I was
Speaker 4: my rookie year for five nine and a half one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty five pounds.
Speaker 5: I don't so, I don't understand that because you said
Speaker 5: you was the X at that size.
Speaker 2: Normally it's it's reversed.
Speaker 4: But but then we did a lot of dodgers. Everything,
Speaker 4: everything is based on that little five yard dodge zone.
Speaker 4: You said, Man, you run away, and Art was Art
Speaker 4: was a master at that.
Speaker 1: He was the choice runner.
Speaker 5: So tell me this, though, tell me this, because I
Speaker 5: remember me and you had this conversation with Ricky and
Speaker 5: I thought he stole one of your touchdowns in the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl. Talk to tell the fans, is that story
Speaker 5: about when you thought the ball was coming to you.
Speaker 2: And it went over your head and then you know
Speaker 2: you saw back Richie.
Speaker 4: I just saw Ricky streaking right past me. I was like,
Speaker 4: I got the post.
Speaker 2: How did you both get in the same same area?
Speaker 4: Ricky decided he was going to go take that shortcut. Lord,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, we I'll take it back. We both
Speaker 4: have posts, but I had the deep post and Ricky shallow,
Speaker 4: and he like for yards down field. I'll tell you what, though,
Speaker 4: Ricky Sanders, you can fly. He does not get the
Speaker 4: credit that he deserves. He's one of the best receivers,
Speaker 4: just naturally gifted, naturally gifted. And I could do everything,
Speaker 4: anything and everything you asked him to do. I mean,
Speaker 4: he was a utility guy, good guy. So when I
Speaker 4: did an X, he could do it, or I did
Speaker 4: his Z and then he blocked as a h wow.
Speaker 4: He was our h back you know. So, I mean,
Speaker 4: and he broke our he I mean super Bowl twenty two,
Speaker 4: he broke that record. Yeah, because he stole my damn touchdown.
Speaker 5: I love it, man, every time I hear it, every
Speaker 5: time I see gets the first thing I think about.
Speaker 4: Ricky's a good oh.
Speaker 2: Man, All right, let's get uh.
Speaker 1: Let's that was a nice teacher. But let's get back
Speaker 1: to the fan question. So Harry asked, could someone like
Speaker 1: Louvu benefit from switching to edge rusher?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you think so. Oh, I'm gonna push back
Speaker 2: card on this trend.
Speaker 3: Thing about it is which has a momentum die he
Speaker 3: a god even when he coming to make but even.
Speaker 1: Even when you just describe him, he's a momentum downhill guy.
Speaker 1: So as an edge rusher, yes, starting from a stationary position.
Speaker 2: But what stationary position they're gonna theme with him? That
Speaker 2: don't see him?
Speaker 3: Well, just like they had Michael Parson's left right coming
Speaker 3: through the A gap, coming through the B gap, this
Speaker 3: guy like when you got a guy that's organized chaos
Speaker 3: on defense, you won't unleash that organized chaos by any
Speaker 3: forums necessary. And I think sometime last year, especially in
Speaker 3: passing downs, dropping him back into zones and stuff like.
Speaker 1: That, what is he talking about?
Speaker 5: Nobody got he got an interception doing dropping interception.
Speaker 3: I just think as a defensive player. He worked as
Speaker 3: a quarterback. He worked more to me rushing the passer
Speaker 3: than he is running time.
Speaker 5: And I say, got the position he's at right now
Speaker 5: where he can move around as a linebacker, pick his
Speaker 5: gaps that he want to he want to put brain
Speaker 5: pressure through, line up on the outside.
Speaker 2: To me, I like him. To me, he has more
Speaker 2: of a Marcom Michael Parson, you know roll. He still
Speaker 2: would be a line even though he's coming out the eight.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying nothing change this, this being set on
Speaker 5: one side, left or right.
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll do that with him.
Speaker 1: Okay, So just from like a purely x's and oh standpoint. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I look at what he does and highlight I don't
Speaker 1: like the matchup of him rushing on a tackle or
Speaker 1: a guard. I want him rushing on a back. So
Speaker 1: if I can formation defensively right, get my four down there,
Speaker 1: have Bobby and him up in the gap. He's gonna
Speaker 1: win against the center and he's gonna win against the back.
Speaker 1: Like that's the matchup that I'm hunting for for him.
Speaker 1: So like the flexibility of his alignment is the thing
Speaker 1: that gives him value. So I always think people say, oh,
Speaker 1: just move the dude to edge rusher. It takes a
Speaker 1: special athlete. And I think he dismissed Anthony. I think
Speaker 1: he can do it like it's nothing about his skills
Speaker 1: it that tells me he can't do it. He got
Speaker 1: long on reach, he got low being around the conel,
Speaker 1: he got a neck for fine and a quarterback.
Speaker 2: And I also want to have.
Speaker 3: A guy that the offense wants to find because now
Speaker 3: he's opening up to everybody.
Speaker 2: On the back.
Speaker 5: So basically, you want him to play the role that
Speaker 5: Foul played last year because follow was just an edge
Speaker 5: rushing All right.
Speaker 2: Let's just say this, how about right?
Speaker 3: You don't want no, no, Let's just say we met
Speaker 3: Hadway and say in passing situations he's the designated edge
Speaker 3: rush third downs, second and long.
Speaker 2: But you don't like him moving around. I think because
Speaker 2: I think around me as a depensive player, I get
Speaker 2: more from him with him going up the field.
Speaker 1: I just do he's confident to be to be sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm very sure. You can't can't tell him he's wrong.
Speaker 2: They kind They don't call me Freddy, see for for
Speaker 2: no reason?
Speaker 1: Freddy? Who's Freddy?
Speaker 5: You got more names than damn Dictionarrey No coach seaferd
Speaker 5: used to call coach for forty nine.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but all right, here we go.
Speaker 1: Next question, Chris, Well, this is a I don't really
Speaker 1: understand this question, so we're just gonna roll with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: will Jaydon Daniels changed his cadence? Why not change it
Speaker 1: to confuse the defense? So we have multiple cadence, I.
Speaker 2: Mean saying we got multiple kats, like, no, they don't
Speaker 2: need to be touched that because it also confuses the offense.
Speaker 2: This is what this is what I hope he's asking.
Speaker 3: Is he gonna have more control at the line of
Speaker 3: scrimmage on changing plays. And he did a lot of
Speaker 3: that last year too, so so it's only gonna get
Speaker 3: more on his plate, right, So I think he's they
Speaker 3: asking is he gonna be more peyton manny is at
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and getting a little bit more
Speaker 3: control of the outfense through the cadence and through the
Speaker 3: change in the plays.
Speaker 5: Kind of talked about last year and that that first
Speaker 5: round playoff got that that was the first round we
Speaker 5: played Tampa.
Speaker 2: He called his own shot on that. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 2: sure it's.
Speaker 5: Wide open for him to do things like that because
Speaker 5: he's that calibory of player. So if that's the question
Speaker 5: that's been asked, I'm sure that Jayden, Dan and Cliff
Speaker 5: and those guys will allow him to kind of cook
Speaker 5: when he wanted to put more on his plate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Gary, you played with a bunch of different quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Can you maybe talk about how how you got to
Speaker 1: learn a different cadence for a quarterback? Like it is
Speaker 1: a process. It's not like something you can just away.
Speaker 4: It seems like what the fans want. It's it's seemed
Speaker 4: to have become like a Mark Ripping, Like Mark Ripping,
Speaker 4: Joe gave him the ability. Like everything for us was
Speaker 4: check with me, Like really Mark, Like seventy five to
Speaker 4: eighty percent of our offense was Mark Callton plays at
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmers. She go up and he checked
Speaker 4: out the defense, but then he called a play. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so if he has that type of intelligence and heck, yeah,
Speaker 4: let him do it, because I mean Mark was he
Speaker 4: was a smart, smart guy, very intelligent guy, you know,
Speaker 4: And I didn't realize that he was that involved in Yeah,
Speaker 4: like like he was just extremely extremely intelligent guy, you know,
Speaker 4: low key coup for a quarterback, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: he didn't have the typical air that a quarterback. This
Speaker 4: is Jayden. Quite honestly, Jayden comes across to me very
Speaker 4: its just so chilling, laid back. He gains all the
Speaker 4: credit to everybody else he's he doesn't take that credit
Speaker 4: in because a lot of times quarterbacks get all the credit.
Speaker 4: Just just kind of just always kind of been that way.
Speaker 4: And he shares the credit with his receiver, with his lineman.
Speaker 4: He's a smart, smart player. And what I love about
Speaker 4: is he understands how the game was played to come
Speaker 4: in like everybody adored him once he got here as
Speaker 4: a quarterback, you know what I'm saying, Because he didn't
Speaker 4: come in saying like I'm the guy, I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: the reason he came in. He came in saying like
Speaker 4: we're a team and we're gonna put this together and
Speaker 4: we'll go to win together. We're the guys. That's the
Speaker 4: point I think where everybody.
Speaker 2: Likes about Gary.
Speaker 1: It's almost like you produced the show with us, because
Speaker 1: that leads us really nicely in the Phil's question, which
Speaker 1: I think is related is relevant here can I as
Speaker 1: a fan as a fan base, Can I can we
Speaker 1: believe in Jayde Daniels? Can he do it again? And
Speaker 1: so Fred I know this is like your time when
Speaker 1: you get up on to your sales pitch about nice things.
Speaker 1: But it was interesting here and Gary talk about how
Speaker 1: Mark kind of followed a similar trajectory like humble beginnings,
Speaker 1: kept grinding, kept working and kept improving. So can the
Speaker 1: fan base be locked in on Jadane Daniels.
Speaker 3: Do not be afraid to believe in greatness. Do not
Speaker 3: be afraid to think that he's actually gonna get better.
Speaker 3: With this equation out to you, how do you stop
Speaker 3: a pinpoint passer that happens to be one of the
Speaker 3: fastest people on the O offence?
Speaker 2: You don't? You hope to bottle him up.
Speaker 3: And you're talking about somebody that's uper intelligent, who's a sponge,
Speaker 3: who's only gonna get more. Like if you thought he
Speaker 3: had confidence last year, he gonna have even more confidence
Speaker 3: this year. So the confidence is up, the skill set
Speaker 3: is up, the passing will be better. The playbook we
Speaker 3: will be better. We brought him more weapons, we got
Speaker 3: him a better offensive. Live Yes, feel good about him
Speaker 3: being Jedi five. He will be the ultimate forcemote the plier. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he will see. I told you you can sell cars.
Speaker 3: You want the best salesman in the business, bess and
Speaker 3: and I proved that message.
Speaker 5: But honestly, I think when it comes to just what
Speaker 5: we did as a team, when you get better in
Speaker 5: front of him, when you get those you call the
Speaker 5: wild boars. Yeah, when you add to the wild boars,
Speaker 5: you get a you get a Tonsu, you get a J. C. J.
Speaker 5: You get you make those two guys along, make everybody
Speaker 5: else better, everybody. You move Cole into his natural position.
Speaker 5: And then not only that, then you add a weapon
Speaker 5: in the outside and Deebo Samuels, who can be a
Speaker 5: Swiss Army knife. He could be in the backfield, could
Speaker 5: be an h back. You know, back in the day
Speaker 5: we call h backs like tight ends, So he could
Speaker 5: be an h back, he could be.
Speaker 2: A tight end.
Speaker 5: He could be a running back, he could be a
Speaker 5: wide receiver. And then you add more, you know, guys
Speaker 5: around him that's going to allow him to be able
Speaker 5: to go out there and so on.
Speaker 2: So cook.
Speaker 5: But one of the things that I want to point
Speaker 5: out what you said, he's a passor first see, when
Speaker 5: we see guys that have problems in year two is
Speaker 5: because they they was running quarterbacks that the league say,
Speaker 5: you know what, we're gonna make you.
Speaker 2: Now throw the ball. They don't want him to throw
Speaker 2: the ball.
Speaker 5: Late in the season last year, a lot of our
Speaker 5: defenses that we went up against, they sat back and
Speaker 5: wanted him to throw the ball.
Speaker 2: And guess what he did pick him apart. So coming
Speaker 2: into year two.
Speaker 5: I would say, these guys are they not They're not
Speaker 5: sure what to do. They don't want to rush them,
Speaker 5: they don't want.
Speaker 2: To sit back.
Speaker 5: They just want to play defense and hope that they
Speaker 5: can at least cover more guys to not give him
Speaker 5: an option.
Speaker 2: So I think it's just gonna have one those years
Speaker 2: than another.
Speaker 5: Great quarterback or or quarterback where great potential is gonna
Speaker 5: have and he's gonna thrive.
Speaker 2: And I think and this team is gonna thrive because
Speaker 2: he has the.
Speaker 5: Weapons, he have the guys that are front of the
Speaker 5: block for him, and like he said, he's Jedi five man,
Speaker 5: he's something to watch.
Speaker 1: So fans, they got a question.
Speaker 2: We got hell yeah, hell coming up right now.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I want to ask the fans
Speaker 1: and I want to hear it from you can you
Speaker 1: guys believe in Jane Daniels Hell yeah or hell nah?
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It was just hell yeah, no, no, they believe they've
Speaker 2: just been scorned and burned by us a little bit.
Speaker 2: And you know, you got to earn that respect.
Speaker 3: It's just like it's just like you're letting the kid
Speaker 3: use the card and they come back and scratch the car.
Speaker 2: You got to re earn my trust to drive again.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so now the first tell y'all our
Speaker 1: hell no, Terry, Deebo and Ertz are the best veteran
Speaker 1: slash slash professional receiving options since the Posse.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Jordan Reed, Santana, Pierre and I might have to go
Speaker 3: because Jordan Reed don't get the love he's supposed to
Speaker 3: got because he had to retire early. But Jord Reed,
Speaker 3: for a small stint, was unstoppable at the tight end spot.
Speaker 3: Then when you got Pierre, who is a yack machine,
Speaker 3: you got Tanna and Djack to in the fastest receiver
Speaker 3: they ever played the game.
Speaker 2: I don't know, so what we go.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna compare him against no other group. I
Speaker 5: just say hell no, because I believe that.
Speaker 2: The Posse was.
Speaker 5: But it's since the Posse they the best group since
Speaker 5: the Post.
Speaker 2: Since the Bosse. Nah nah, No, I won't be giving
Speaker 2: myself no credit.
Speaker 5: I've been talking about I've been around some groups. Man,
Speaker 5: I've been around some guys that I had to held
Speaker 5: them up, hold them up hisself.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, we did what
Speaker 2: we had to do. But I said, hell no, yeah,
Speaker 2: hell Gary.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you talk about how good the Posse
Speaker 1: he was just as a standard. You already alluded to
Speaker 1: it a little bit like it seems crazy hall of famer,
Speaker 1: borderline hall of famer, Like three guys I know every
Speaker 1: team he model. How good are they though, is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So Ricky all right, yeah, and Gary alone, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like there at the top, they said, who the second
Speaker 3: best group we need have since then? And it's only
Speaker 3: a couple of groups you can put on them. This
Speaker 3: group that we hadn't started, they haven't played a game
Speaker 3: together yet.
Speaker 2: We can't. We can't say yeah.
Speaker 3: So then you got your groups that you had, and
Speaker 3: you got different group Because people don't like to get
Speaker 3: Brandon Lloyd his problem b Lloyd was a problem.
Speaker 2: Then you had Randon's good player, but he was only
Speaker 2: here for what like a year ago? He was here
Speaker 2: for two years.
Speaker 1: Two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's been some groups since then. I just
Speaker 2: don't think.
Speaker 5: I think my most productive group was when I was
Speaker 5: in a slot in twenty twelve when we had.
Speaker 2: We had Hankerson, Pierre, Josh, Morgan, al and myself.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a group that you can compare to
Speaker 5: those guys, But I still would put those guys in
Speaker 5: front of us because of the Super Bowls and everything.
Speaker 1: Longevity too, I said for a long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was fortunate.
Speaker 4: We got to play together for like seven years straight.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. It happened, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: And it gave the day like I mean, you know
Speaker 4: you just gonna get double who yat tight end? Then
Speaker 4: I mean we like we had like we had a
Speaker 4: UEA and then Ricky came on because it was really
Speaker 4: a two receivers, two receivers set for a long time.
Speaker 4: Ricky came in, Art got hurt, Ricky took his place,
Speaker 4: and then Ricky had the Super Bowl little recording and
Speaker 4: again are played in that game where Ricky started to Ricky.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that Ricky started to We came back
Speaker 4: the next year in training camp, they said first team up,
Speaker 4: and neither Ricky r Art stepped into the huddle. And
Speaker 4: then Art stepped into the huddle. And honestly, how he
Speaker 4: probably kept his starting job.
Speaker 2: Just thettle mam.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, looking, we're all boys. But me and
Speaker 4: Ricky a boy, were gonna get in trouble together, hang
Speaker 4: out together, live at each other. Were a boy. I
Speaker 4: feel like workd it out, you know, But I cursed
Speaker 4: Ricky out. I was like, what was you doing?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I should have got in there.
Speaker 4: You spoke the record of super Bow, super Bowl record
Speaker 4: breaker at that point time, you're the best in the
Speaker 4: super Bowl game. Why did you not step into the huddle?
Speaker 2: He even had course, I don't know.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't talking to hold On, he wouldn't talk to Joe,
Speaker 4: and then Joe at the next meeting, Joe k I
Speaker 4: just wanted everybody to know we've got three starting wide receivers.
Speaker 4: So he changed the whole and we got three starting
Speaker 4: parent for Clint Diddier because you were Clint very similar
Speaker 4: bad boy man boy, that boy boy could he catch everything.
Speaker 2: Look so y'all in the Houston oilers with the first
Speaker 2: to fight the full back.
Speaker 4: Y'all fired the full back at that funny time, and
Speaker 4: then Ricky Ricky was just Ricky was a beast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how that came about. That's what's up. So
Speaker 2: obviously I think we can say hell, y'all, the Posse,
Speaker 2: the Posse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I say it eight, I wouldn't say this
Speaker 3: group is the best group since the Posse, So I
Speaker 3: gotta go with the hell or no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I do think this group could have a
Speaker 1: special year this year, and we could be talking about
Speaker 1: him differently next year.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to be This is what I
Speaker 2: want to say.
Speaker 3: If you got a quarterback, your group is out of
Speaker 3: manly finna be up there anyway. So if you want
Speaker 3: to George quarterback, a whole line too, and I think
Speaker 3: this whole line is most important.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, period, Yeah, talk about what we don't catch
Speaker 4: nothing of a whole line on block.
Speaker 1: Dude, you say that all the time.
Speaker 3: That's why Joe Chi Kobe should be in the Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame out So there's a lot of guys out
Speaker 3: their team that should be in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: There's not in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so this is really a question for Gary.
Speaker 1: Everyone can can contribute, but dan Quinn has built a
Speaker 1: culture very similar to that of when Joe Gibbs was
Speaker 1: here and I wasn't here with Joe Gibbs. With Joe Gibbs,
Speaker 1: you're a Joe Gibbs soon, maybe you can talk about.
Speaker 5: I was two point Oh Joe Gibbs. Somebody tell us
Speaker 5: about the first thing. When we talk about having the
Speaker 5: reason the game by having read.
Speaker 1: Has Fred, you gouts heard the story about how Fred
Speaker 1: got Joe Gibson.
Speaker 2: Man, we don't want to hear that story. I don't
Speaker 2: want to put his.
Speaker 1: Seven areas, so it hasn't heard your story. So you
Speaker 1: go ahead and tell that story real quick.
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm not aod Gary, Gary talk. Gary talked to
Speaker 5: us about Joe Gibbs and his first thin. What was
Speaker 5: so special about Joe Gibbs and his first thin?
Speaker 2: And Washington?
Speaker 4: I mean the best? The best thing about Joe is
Speaker 4: Joe knew how to manage people. He knew that everybody,
Speaker 4: every player was not the same type of player. He
Speaker 4: knew I was not Art Monk, I was not ur.
Speaker 4: I didn't have the same mentality Art he knew how
Speaker 4: to coach each player differently. Like what you can say
Speaker 4: the art to get art fired is not the same
Speaker 4: thing you can say to me to get fired. Getting
Speaker 4: me fired up is talking shit about them. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean you're talking like like you.
Speaker 1: Do you have such an edge. This is the first
Speaker 1: time we hung out for a long time, old No,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm like, I feel the competitors.
Speaker 2: You can tell that him, and you tell that him
Speaker 2: and beat his teammate rock teammates.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's gray. We're having very similar mentality that.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think about like what you're what you're saying there,
Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that I think Dan
Speaker 1: is excellent A yeah, is your ability to talk to
Speaker 1: people differently.
Speaker 3: Yes, like Fred let him know I got you back
Speaker 3: and be genuine When I say that that you don't
Speaker 3: get genuine from coaches and from being around coach Gibbs
Speaker 3: and being around Dan Quinn.
Speaker 2: That's the person you get twenty for seven.
Speaker 3: I don't have to say a guess what they what
Speaker 3: they say to me, I believe and what they say
Speaker 3: to me I trust.
Speaker 5: You don't get there without coaches. So so just to
Speaker 5: add to what Gary talked about a little bit with
Speaker 5: Joe Gibbs. I got a chance to you know, play
Speaker 5: with him for three years, uh in his second stint
Speaker 5: get two point oh.
Speaker 2: And what stood out to me about Coach Gibbs is
Speaker 2: something that he said to.
Speaker 5: Me a couple of times. One he spoke about handling
Speaker 5: guys differently. He told me, somebody say, you know, so
Speaker 5: one night I had a long night out and you
Speaker 5: want along that out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a long really, Yeah, I was hanging
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm you know, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm hit these streets hard man.
Speaker 5: Man. So on my way back, being that I was
Speaker 5: a smart guy. On my way back, I say, you
Speaker 5: know what dropped me off at the facility. I'd rather
Speaker 5: go in there and sleep in my locker so I
Speaker 5: could be to work instead of having the chance of
Speaker 5: getting up knowing that it was already four or five o'clock.
Speaker 2: So I go, as I'm going down to my LOCKEROW,
Speaker 2: I pump into.
Speaker 5: Joke GiB Coach Gibbs got a tower on pumping feet.
Speaker 2: Tap what you're doing here? What the hell going on?
Speaker 2: He like, damn telling where you're coming from. I'm like, Coach,
Speaker 2: I had I had a loan within, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: come in here and sleep in my locker. He's like,
Speaker 2: all right, going to get you some sleep. I'm planning
Speaker 2: to take a shower. So the next morning I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: Coach Gibbs here.
Speaker 5: So what I found out about Coach Gibbs, he's spent
Speaker 5: the night there, and that's what his routine for years.
Speaker 5: He would spend the night at the facility because he's
Speaker 5: putting in overtime work. And what he told me, you know,
Speaker 5: briefly before he went into the went to that meeting,
Speaker 5: he said, look, I'm glad that you're here. First in meetings,
Speaker 5: a lot of guys would have went home. So I
Speaker 5: know how much it's a meaning to you. And he say,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you something about I don't I don't
Speaker 5: have a problem with you guys enjoying life. I understand
Speaker 5: that you're going to live the way you live. I'm
Speaker 5: a Christian. I don't do a lot of things that
Speaker 5: other guys do. But he said, as long as we
Speaker 5: are on the same occurred in between those white lines,
Speaker 5: that's all I have to worry about. And that stood
Speaker 5: out to me, you know, So basically telling you, like, look, man,
Speaker 5: go be a man, going, go and enjoy life.
Speaker 1: Do what you do.
Speaker 5: But when we blow that whistle and you and you
Speaker 5: in between them white lines, I need you to go
Speaker 5: out there and play the.
Speaker 2: Way I'm gonna expect you to play.
Speaker 5: So that stood out to me one and then then
Speaker 5: two something He did it also in that same year
Speaker 5: we scraped, We scratched our whole playbook, our passing game.
Speaker 5: He found out that our passing game wasn't working after
Speaker 5: Week one against Chicago, and he said, look, if you
Speaker 5: can run these plays that the other team is playing
Speaker 5: against whoever our opponent, that is that if you can
Speaker 5: run these routes, we're gonna we're gonna put more. We're
Speaker 5: gonna use what we always say, it's a copycat lead.
Speaker 5: We're gonna use what's working against the teams that we're facing.
Speaker 5: And so we went into every game in five playing
Speaker 5: against our opponent with the teams that they played against
Speaker 5: it or the gaming for us that they weren't successful,
Speaker 5: and we went and took their plays and like he
Speaker 5: just he kept the run game and he's changed the
Speaker 5: passing game. So that stood out to me, just showing
Speaker 5: that he was a guy that was willing to adapt,
Speaker 5: to adapt to what was going on now, and he
Speaker 5: also adapted to the players that he had, knowing that
Speaker 5: I can't be one of those guys to tell these
Speaker 5: guys that they can't do something, because they're gonna do
Speaker 5: it anyway.
Speaker 1: They are all men.
Speaker 2: So that stood out about Joe Gibson.
Speaker 5: That's why I understand why when you look back at
Speaker 5: his his whole resume, the reason why he was a
Speaker 5: two Bowl champion with three different quarterbacks, because he know
Speaker 5: how to get anybody to go out there and play
Speaker 5: for him.
Speaker 1: So back to the question, hell yeah, hell no. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like it's similar with Dan?
Speaker 2: Say hell yeah, yeah, hell yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: do you think?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I'm he said, he don't know the queen as much
Speaker 2: as what you said, yea.
Speaker 4: Last year, from what you saw, from what you saw
Speaker 4: from the queens, they had did that until he got here.
Speaker 1: So all right, so I'm gonna say hell yeah on that.
Speaker 1: And so I think this last one is for the fans. Okay,
Speaker 1: and we can answer this too, but we'll start with
Speaker 1: the fans. The commanders have all the pieces to win
Speaker 1: a super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Now, hell yeah or hell no? That was pretty confident.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do pretty confident when you get four quarters
Speaker 3: away from the super Bowl and you go retool the
Speaker 3: way we did.
Speaker 2: You call for reinforcements. Yes you have a chance. Do
Speaker 2: we got Jedi five? Yes, we got a chance. Do
Speaker 2: we got coach Quinn? Yes we got a chance? All right?
Speaker 3: We got bigger also that we found out when we
Speaker 3: played that game against Philadelphia in the NFC Championship. We
Speaker 3: need to get bigger, all right, that's what we did
Speaker 3: in our season. Yeah, we gotta change. As long as
Speaker 3: we got five on the center, we got a chance
Speaker 3: to dance.
Speaker 4: See you in Spain, you got They got the taste
Speaker 4: it too. They got the taste what success feels like.
Speaker 4: And during a long time have been since you guys
Speaker 4: played that, they have a chance to taste what success
Speaker 4: felts like. And once you get that taste, though, it's
Speaker 4: like a good stick, I'm gonna have another good stick,
Speaker 4: not taste not only to many good stacks.
Speaker 5: They also understood what it feels like to honestly go
Speaker 5: out there and laya a you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying like got finished, not not finished.
Speaker 2: The game.
Speaker 5: I think when you look at that game the way
Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels finished that game and play. Yeah, every guy
Speaker 5: that went out there that didn't play their best, I
Speaker 5: guarantee you they felt bad. Yeah, watching this guy, this
Speaker 5: young rookie quarterback go out there and give us a chance.
Speaker 5: We still had a change five minutes left and after
Speaker 5: all those turnovers.
Speaker 2: So if I'm ever a part of a.
Speaker 5: Game like that, to know that this is what we
Speaker 5: have in QB, man, give me another change, give me
Speaker 5: an at a time, man, give me at a shout
Speaker 5: at it, because I know that I'm gonna be better
Speaker 5: next time out, because I'm not gonna allow to let
Speaker 5: my play affect what that young man did.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So obviously we're really excited about the upcoming twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five season.
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Speaker 4: Thank you guys.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, hey have you been found? Like Hurra though,
Speaker 2: Thank you