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Speaker 1: Bay Listen. Teams have a lot of leverage in these situations.

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Speaker 1: lose your job, you're miserable, you don't do anything, and

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00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: you're like potentially violent. Like hard to blame her, Right,

428
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,479
Speaker 1: does anyone really blame Robert Kraft for firing you? Like

429
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: it was time? Like you weren't just there ten years,

430
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 1: twenty years, you were there like twenty three years. It

431
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: was a long freaking time and it had run its course.

432
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: I just can't understand. And I was thinking about this.

433
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned this on Monday night. He can't hide, he

434
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: can't fake his personality, which I appreciated in most people,

435
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: but now in his job there is somewhat of like

436
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 1: a political angle to it. You kind of got to

437
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 1: put on a brave face and just pretend to be

438
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: semi happy. Sometimes in college football, do you think every

439
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: day Nick Saban wanted to smile when he just knew, like, hey,

440
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: recruits are gonna be watching, or to do this media

441
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 1: hit or to do whatever. Of course, not, well, Belichick's

442
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: never had to do any of that because in the

443
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: pros none of that matters. In college it kind of does.

444
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: So now the NFL people are like, God, this guy,

445
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: what the fuck is wrong with Bill? And most people

446
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: would just be like, yeah, this is who he's always

447
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: kind of been. Which, listen, you can make excuses when

448
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: you're winning thirteen fourteen games and going to the super Bowl.

449
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: You just become a laughingstock when you start losing by

450
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: forty points and you know, have a four and eight season.

451
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: So that's what they look like they got. And I

452
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: can't imagine that Mike Lombardi, who is like they've said

453
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: they're the thirty thirteen, Like that's what they want to do. Well,

454
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: we know who the boss is, the guy making ten

455
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: million dollars, He's the guy banning New England. He's the

456
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 1: guy making it hard on the scouts, which I just

457
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: think he put out a too deep yesterday which was

458
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: completely blank. It's like, bro, you're kind of turning into

459
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: a joke. It's kind of sad. And I'm a defender

460
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 1: of Belichick. I'm a fan. I'm the guy that's been

461
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: calling him the greatest coach I've ever seen forever, and

462
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 1: I stand by what I said based on what I

463
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: saw in his heyday. But what's going on right now?

464
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: You know, Jerry Jones gets made fun of a lot

465
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: for being old and senile. What the hell has happened

466
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: to Belichick a couple other things. Jackson Dart the backup.

467
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, there's certain things you can see coming from

468
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: a mile away. You know, sometimes when you're like when

469
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: you go out for cocktails, or you have a friend

470
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: that starts dating someone and you come home with your

471
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 1: significant other and you're like, they're never gonna last and

472
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: they don't write. Or you have a buddy that gets

473
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: into a business he's like, I'm telling you, bro, just

474
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: either invest or. This thing's gonna be big. And you're like,

475
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: this thing's got no shot, like you just you just know,

476
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: like from the jump. And sometimes it is the opposite.

477
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're like, damn, this thing is it's gonna work.

478
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: Like you get a restaurant, You're like, this food's good.

479
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: This thing's gonna be a hit in this town. Jackson

480
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: darts the backup quarterback. You can see what's gonna happen

481
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: coming from a mile away. Russell Wilson's giant career is

482
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: hanging by a shoe string, and that shoe string is

483
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna rip apart every single day. And I'm not even

484
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: talking on Sundays. I'm talking Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. That

485
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing Jackson Dart not being

486
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: in the game by the end of the month. I mean,

487
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: I really do, and I think that the way he

488
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: played this this fall, the pressure that's on the head coach,

489
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: the fan base. Like fan bases do have some juice,

490
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: like obviously everyone wants Klein to bore fired. Where there

491
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: comes to a line where it's like, well, are you

492
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna pay the seventy million dollars buy out? Where it

493
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: gets complicated. In the NFL is not that complicated. Brian

494
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: Dayball does not win. He's gone. And the one way

495
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: that you don't have to totally win, like win some games,

496
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: but also keep your job is to go, this is

497
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: my quarterback. This quarterback looks good with me, and I'm

498
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback guy, and that could save the guy's gig.

499
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: So I would imagine that Jackson Dart is inserted really,

500
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: really quick, because I know football fans, and no one's

501
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: gonna watch Wanta watch Russell Wilson dunking and Duncan for

502
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: seventeen points a game and listen. That might be what

503
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart ends up doing as a rookie, but I

504
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: would rather watch that as a fan, as an owner

505
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: as a GM than anything. Russell Wilson's bringing the table

506
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. You know, it's funny like the Patriots,

507
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: and just anytime you hire a new coach, for the

508
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: most part, when you've been really bad, it's like, blow

509
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: this bitch up. And Pete Carroll got there. He's like,

510
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: I want Max Crosby, extend him. Spy text like extend him.

511
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: Colton Miller like this guy, extend him. Sometimes you go

512
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: to a and they got pieces. Other times you go

513
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: to a place you're like that this thing needs to

514
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: be burned to the studs. I've always said this about

515
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: the Oakland Coliseum where the Raiders and A's used to play.

516
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: They should take dynamite around that whole thing and blow

517
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: it to fucking smitherings, you know. And that was when

518
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: I thought maybe teams would stay. They've all left. Everyone's

519
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: gone that thing every day. That's the thing's erect is insane.

520
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: It's the biggest dump I've ever been in my entire life.

521
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: How stadium, any structure. I mean, it doesn't get any

522
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: worse than that place. It's no different. Teams. Sometimes you

523
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: show up, You're like, what is going on here? I

524
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what Mike Vrabel walked into. Now, listen

525
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: some of the some of the captains. It's not like,

526
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, Jacoby Brisset's a high level guy. But if

527
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: Jacoby presets a captain on your team in twenty twenty four,

528
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose a lot of games. So I'm high

529
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: on New England this year. Now, I think their ceiling

530
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: is somewhat limited, just because explosive players on offense beside

531
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: the running back, not that many we have to see

532
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: with the quarterback. I'm just a believer in the head coach.

533
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in the system. I'm a believer also

534
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: in their schedule. So nine to ten wins is probably

535
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: the ceiling, but I would expect a very very quick turnaround. Okay,

536
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: time for a little thing we like to call the

537
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle two f's.

538
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: It's always weird, and you know, I'm relatively newly married.

539
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: But whenever we today we were at the doctors and

540
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: we're on just we were in Hawaii and ever she goes, yeah,

541
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: Maria Middlecoff. When you hear your last name on someone

542
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: else's name, you're like two f's middlecoff at John Middlecoff

543
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: Packer fan, here's one for the back. Personally, I'm a

544
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: little worried about the pack about the back and what

545
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: our run defense will look like. We got them to

546
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: get more pressure on golf, but that doesn't matter if

547
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: Gibbs and Montgomery or running all over us. I feel

548
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: like Goody and Lafleur know their jobs are on the clock,

549
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: so they felt they had to make a big swing.

550
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: It's boom or bust, no in between. Only time will

551
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: tell who won. For it to be a success. The

552
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: Packers they need at least one Lombardi in the next

553
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: three seasons. Well, they've only been to one Super Bowl

554
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers and Brett Farv since ninety eight, so

555
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: I would say I understand winning a Super Bowl is

556
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: easy to say that winning you know, NBA finals, Like

557
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: if the Lakers don't win an NBA finals with Luca,

558
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: it's a disappointment. When you make it to the championship,

559
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: even if you lose, it's pretty impressive. Like you guys

560
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: have been to a lot of NFC Championship games, but

561
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: winning that game and going to the Super Bowl and

562
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: winning the NFC to me would be a pretty big deal.

563
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: So if you tell me the next three years you

564
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: get to a super Bowl, I think that's a pretty

565
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: big success. I said this earlier. If you think they

566
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: would give him almost one hundred and forty million dollars guaranteed,

567
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: which is about the same amount giver image a little

568
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: bit less then they gave Jordan Love with a questionable back.

569
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: I just think you're on crack cocaine. The back thing

570
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 1: to me is nothing. I don't think it exists. I

571
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: really don't, because I can't imagine you going, yeah, we're

572
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: gonna give him a contract, but as back might have

573
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: some issues, that'd be malpractice, that'd be a fire bull fence.

574
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: I think they made the trade because they justified in

575
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: their head like, how we ever get this player? How

576
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: do we ever get a player like this? And the

577
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: answer is, you don't really unless you do this. But

578
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you. There's a lot of risk involved because

579
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: think about who you have to go through. Like you

580
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: said the Lions, that pine sool is going to be

581
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: on him. You think Michael Parsons can shed pine sool

582
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: in the run game. You can't. I mean no, one can't.

583
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson and Jordan mylotta for the Eagles that those

584
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: teams want to run the ball down your throat. You

585
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: know Washington, well, you know their offense a little softer

586
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: because it's a little more spread with the Cliff, But

587
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, the Rams can be a physical offense. The

588
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: forty nine ers can be a physical offense. We know

589
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: the Seattle's gonna want to run the ball. I mean,

590
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: the NFC has a lot of run heavy type teams.

591
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: Who else is good in the South Tampa? I mean

592
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: Bucky Irvey had a big year last year. They got

593
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: two good tackles. So it's a run heavy conference that

594
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: this is not the The NFC is not the AFC

595
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: where it's like Burrow mahomes Lamar, like just go out

596
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: there sling that pill baby. The NFC is like, buckle up.

597
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: We plan on running power and outside zone till the

598
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: cows come home and then play action off that. I

599
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: was thinking with Garrett with the Garrett trade request earlier

600
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: this year, would it have been a way to package

601
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson into that and offload part of his contract,

602
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: Like if Garrett went for a first and a third,

603
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: could the Browns say give us a first and a five,

604
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: and you get Garrett Ann Watson. Garrett on the Browns

605
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: is kind of in limbo. Oh is a lamba in

606
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: a trailer house situation. It's like that meme with the

607
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: with the lambo next to the trailer house. I agree

608
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: a little bit, yes, not like they are just one

609
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: player away from winning a ton of games. Would be

610
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: curious to hear your thoughts. I do think he would

611
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: have gone for a lot more than a one and

612
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: a three. I know he's older than Micah, but I

613
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: think he gets multiple ones. He's that good of a player.

614
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: I think he's the most you could argue he's just

615
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: the most purely talented player in the NFL. You know,

616
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: Trent Williams is older. Now, if you could say, like

617
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase Justin Jefferson, like he's on the short list

618
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: of just pure raw talent, might be number one overall

619
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Speaker 1: regardless of position. I just have a hard time going, Okay,

620
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: let's just say I have to give you one of

621
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: a first, and I take Tshown Watson as well. I

622
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: don't think he's tradable. I don't think I would be

623
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: interested as a GM to get Miles Garrett to take

624
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson to essentially cut him. So I'm just

625
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: taking his money to ruin my books to cut him.

626
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Because whenever Deshaun Watson is cut, however this plays out,

627
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: he'll eventually be cut, whether that's in a couple of

628
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: years from the Brown I don't think he ever plays

629
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Again, I don't think he ever plays

630
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: another snap in the NFL. And I don't say that lightly.

631
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm not throwing that around. This is not a moral

632
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: stance either. I don't give a shit. We know the

633
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: teams do not care. If Sean Watson was a good player,

634
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: no one would care. But he's atrocious on the field.

635
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he's objectively one of the worst players in

636
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: the league last couple of years. And then you factor

637
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: in all the baggage. I don't think he's touchable because

638
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: he's not a backup quarterback. It's why if this Russell

639
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: Wilson thing doesn't work out, kind of feels like his

640
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: career is kind of coming down the home stretch unless

641
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: he's just cool with being backup and is like, is

642
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: he too famous to be a backup quarterback? And obviously

643
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: Russell is I mean, has nothing in common with Deshaun

644
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: Watson from a negative standpoint, beside him just being kind

645
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: of annoying with the packers taking golden in the first

646
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: round and going all in on the Micah trade. Do

647
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: you think this has to do with the president, with

648
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: the new president ed policy or just the right circumstance.

649
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: I thought Gutakins had a quote that was like he

650
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: didn't say yes or no, he just said do it.

651
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't have to run it by him,

652
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: like he was the owner. Could be screwing that up.

653
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: This has been a long weekend and I remember that

654
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: that quote was like on Thursday. I think it has

655
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: less to do I think this trade happens if Murphy's there,

656
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: if ed policy's there, whoever's the president, this trade happens

657
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: because Mike is available, and Gudikins wanted them. And Lafour said,

658
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: like I knew when Goot came down to my office

659
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: and said this might a possibility, and that could have

660
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: been a month ago. But like to me, this felt

661
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: like a front office led pursuit. And the one thing

662
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: Goot said, I'll call him Gooty. I don't know if

663
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: anyone calls him Goot's probably easy to call him gooty.

664
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: I think I'm messing. I don't know if his name's

665
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: Gutikins that I could be screwing that up the pronunciation there,

666
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: but we'll just go with goody, he said, was it

667
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: the khalil Mac trade that he felt? Now He's like,

668
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't have got him anyway. But one thing

669
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: I regret about that situation is I was late. I

670
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: felt late to the party, and I wonder if he's

671
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: looking at it in this situation of like, I'm not

672
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: going to be late to the party when it comes

673
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: to this trade. And he was probably one of Jerry's

674
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: first calls and then just kept on and kept on

675
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: and like a sales guy, you know, probably like you know,

676
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: I've never been a part of one of these trades

677
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: in terms of being a GM, but I would imagine

678
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: you kind of got to be a little annoying because

679
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: when you end up a guy that was, let's face it,

680
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: for a long period of time not available, you're probably

681
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: wearing them out, like, hey, any interest, what would it take?

682
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: And then when the dialogue starts, it's a lot because

683
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: you have created the dialogue for months when he's telling

684
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: you no, and then once I think it becomes a

685
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: little bit of a stronger possibility. You go, hey, Matt,

686
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: are you on board with this? Obviously Matt probably is

687
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: like you sure, And then you get your defensive coordinator involved,

688
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: like is this are you very comfortable with this scheme

689
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: fit with this player? And once he gives you the

690
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, because if you make the trade and your

691
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators not fully on board, it could make you

692
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: look bad. So I think the coaches were clearly on board.

693
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: The GM led this pursuit, and ed policy is not

694
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: really in the business of telling you when and where

695
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: to make personnel decisions, right, that's not really his gig.

696
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: And I think Gudakins also said that he about this

697
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: because it was such a big deal, but he doesn't

698
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: bother him, like he doesn't tell him when he's making

699
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: practice squad moves. Right if he's making a move with

700
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: the fifty third guy on the roster, cutting him and

701
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: bringing a guy up, like he's not telling him. But

702
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: this is a type move that you keep everyone involved.

703
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 1: But at policy's job is not to tell you win

704
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: and win not to do this. Now, maybe from a

705
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: financial standpoint, you have to run by some of the

706
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 1: numbers but you know, this is why the Packers are good.

707
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: Their GM and their head coach run the football. That

708
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: there's no the ed policy. The Murphy guy like Murphy

709
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: maybe a little more than policy is not dictating the

710
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: football decisions. But I'm with you. You make this trade,

711
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: you're in win now mode. I like the Packers before

712
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: this move. I actually this move makes me a little

713
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: more nervous, to be completely honest. It is one of

714
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: my favorite bets on the board was taking the Packers

715
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: to win the division. And I liked him when it

716
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: was like plus two fifty. So one hundred bucks gets

717
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: you two Would you bet one hundred dollars, If you win,

718
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: you make three hund fifty bucks. If he bet one

719
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, you win thirty five hundred. Now the odds

720
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: are you know, basically, I think I have looked there's

721
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: like plus one thirty or plus one forty, so they're

722
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: diminished dramatically. I also think there are just human elements

723
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: to this. You know, there have been reports about Micah

724
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: in the locker room just you know, it's not like

725
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: he's a bad guy, but he's just kind of into

726
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: Micah when that's you know, Dack's the opposite, Zach Martin's

727
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: the opposite. By all accounts, seed He Lamb's the opposite.

728
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: So you're getting this big personality that's kind of into him,

729
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: who's going to this place that has kind of like

730
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: a low key, easygoing culture, but everyone kind of buys in.

731
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just makes me learn it could work,

732
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: like I'm not expecting it to derail them, but everyone's

733
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: expecting fireworks and my first response, and maybe it's just

734
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: my natural inclination. When everyone's scared, I'm probably more bullish,

735
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: and when everyone's bullsh I'm a little more down on it.

736
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just playing the stock market for years, it's

737
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: kind of developed that habit. Now you can't always just

738
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: hang a left when everyone's hanging right. Sometimes the left

739
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: will take you right into the tsunami or the fire.

740
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: So I'm not anti this move from the packers standpoint,

741
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: but we have to acknowledge separate from the money, there

742
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: are risks. I mean, this is a guy that does

743
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: he listen to the coaches now because he goes, well,

744
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm the highest paid guy here. So this defensive coordinator

745
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: that is not some I like Halfley a lot but

746
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: he's not some well established vic Vangio that can tell

747
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,479
Speaker 1: any player or anything, or Brian Flores. So if if

748
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Parsons at a point, if he doesn't like what Halfley's

749
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: saying and doesn't agree, freelances like it's Halflee lighting them

750
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: up like a Christmas tree. I don't know. I just

751
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: think there are some inherent risks with this situation. You

752
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: know in football, you say basketball too. Anytime you get

753
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: these big name, big talent, high priced guys that move teams,

754
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: especially to like smaller markets, it can go really, really well,

755
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: and you can become a Michael Parks could become a

756
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: fucking legend, or so like I could get weird. I

757
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: was born, raised, and still reside in the suburbs of

758
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: Philly all my life. I'm twenty five. The entire area

759
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: are big Eagles fans. As a guy who roots for

760
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: my fantasy team and doesn't have one team to root for,

761
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: it's been super annoying dealing with the Eagles fans. They

762
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: seem to be even worse than your average crazy football fan. I,

763
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: as a supporter of the Eagles fans, have been human

764
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: that lived in that area, that really liked it and

765
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: appreciated it. I think all fans are a little crazy,

766
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: and I don't think Eagle fans are that much different

767
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: than anyone else, given your time working for and being

768
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: around the organization, as well as your experience with people

769
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: fans from other teams and circles, do you also find

770
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: Eagles fans to be specifically intolerable love the show? I

771
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: really don't. I think if you maybe because of the area,

772
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: like you're just gonna be more negative in the Northeast.

773
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: Their inclination to lean negative in Philly, in New York,

774
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: in New England, just with their disposition as an area

775
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: is different than we are growing up in northern California,

776
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: or people in southern California, or people in Seattle, or

777
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: people here in Arizona, even like Kansas City. It's just

778
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: it's just the wiring of the people. But I would say,

779
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: what the hell's the difference between Eagles fans and Jets

780
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: fans or Giants fans or New England fans, Like if

781
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: your team sucks, you get mad, and if your team's

782
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: really good, you start feeling yourself. It's called sports. I

783
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: really I hated Philadelphia in the winter. I don't like

784
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: living in the cold. If I want to go to

785
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: the cold, I either get in a plane or get

786
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: in my car and go there so I can leave.

787
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: But in terms of the character of the city, the

788
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: character of the people, I thoroughly enjoyed my time. You know,

789
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm born and raised, spent thirty plus years in California.

790
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: Now I've lived in Arizona for four plus years, so

791
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of my life has been spent in

792
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: California slash the West Coast. But those couple of years

793
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,319
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794
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,279
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795
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,080
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00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,160
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00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,640
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00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,759
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799
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,759
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00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,600
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00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,040
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00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,080
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Speaker 1: If you were the Steelers GM, would you have entered

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00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,920
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00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,480
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00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,799
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00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,520
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840
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: thing is probably way more bust than Boom, but there

841
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,479
Speaker 1: is It could work out if they can run the ball,

842
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: if they play good defense. They clearly didn't love having

843
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: this high priced safety and not being able to cover.

844
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: So they get Sleigh, they get Jalen Ramsey. They kind

845
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: of free themselves from Minka's money. They double down on TJ.

846
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: They think they're gonna be better on defense. They historically

847
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: have had the tall, long corners, physical corners. I mean

848
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: both Sleigh and Jalen are physical corners. I mean Jalen's

849
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: a hit her. You know, DK doesn't really feel like

850
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: a Steeler, but who knows. I think the Steelers could

851
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: be solid. I think they could be similar outcome as

852
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: last year, like not the last couple of years nine

853
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: Kennish wins first round and out, but be a better team.

854
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: I just don't know what else he was supposed to do.

855
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: Like Baker Mayfield wasn't available, He couldn't just like trade

856
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: for Jared Goff, so how he had to have someone

857
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: to play quarterback. Shador Sanders the third stringer on fucking Cleveland,

858
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: so that surely wasn't the answer. I just think it

859
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: was the best option, and ideally you get a quarterback

860
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: moving forward, but that's easier said than done. It's like,

861
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: well you need a quarterback, Okay, well draft Kenny Pickett.

862
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: Well that's gonna be a disaster. We need a quarterback. Okay,

863
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: draft Mac Jones. That's a disaster. I think sometimes when

864
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: you forced the quarterback for every Mahomes and Josh Allen,

865
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: you get some of these just epic train wrecks. Even

866
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: Lamar like the Ravens didn't force it. Remember they drafted

867
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: a guy ahead of them. So I think you're just

868
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: in a tough situation. It's like it's easy for me

869
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: to say, well, he's got to find a quarterback. Well, okay,

870
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: who win? Well, if you win nine ten games, you're

871
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: drafting the twenties. You're not drafting Garrett Nesmier, you're not

872
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: drafting sellers. You're not drafted probably Cad club Nick. You

873
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't think, and who knows even good enough for the bag.

874
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: Curious to hear your thoughts on this article. Essentially, the

875
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: NFL has called out Nielsen on diluting their viewership numbers,

876
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: saying it cost them millions of dollars when they inaccurately

877
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: under report total viewers for the game. I just find

878
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: it funny that the NFL is running circles around every

879
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: other major sports league in America and is still fighting

880
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: for every penny do you think this means that the

881
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: NFL and its teams are still quote unquote undervalued and

882
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: could potentially be worth a few hundred million more. I

883
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: would say the NFL wiring as a business right now

884
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: is very similar to Alabama and Saban. You're thinking like why,

885
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: I remember thinking this the last like four or five

886
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: years with Nick, How do you still care this much?

887
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: How do you still care this much? And it felt

888
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: like he did he would still lose it. He was

889
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: still so driven. His teams were still so buttoned up.

890
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: It was like, it's incredible to have this stamina. I'd

891
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: say the same thing for Pete Carroll, like how is

892
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: he so excited for life to coach the Raiders at

893
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: seventy three, seventy four years old? I get bill, he

894
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 1: has this like f you to the Patriots. It feels

895
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: like that's the only reason he's coaching, just as an

896
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: f you to Robbercraft. It feels like Pete Carroll's just

897
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: just driven to coach. The NFL is just driven to

898
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: make money. We've I've known a couple of these guys

899
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 1: that are like business owners that essentially own like family businesses,

900
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 1: so their sons are part of their businesses. I've known

901
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: farmers like this and they'll be like seventy five years old.

902
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: It's like they're driving around the ranch at six am.

903
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: It's like, why aren't you just at your house in

904
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: the country club, relaxing. Why why aren't you at Maui?

905
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: Why aren't you in the Bahamas? Like what are you

906
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: doing this for? It's like that's all they know in

907
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: the NFL right now. It's like it's never enough. It's

908
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: never enough, It's never enough, and they just keep going

909
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: after it for more. I would say this, I didn't

910
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: read the article. I saw the headlines separate from what

911
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: you sent me. I think these like if if YouTube

912
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: or Apple says that seventy five, four hundred and thirty

913
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: four people listen to the podcast on Apple and ten

914
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: twenty five ten thousand, two hundred and fifty three people

915
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: listened on YouTube, like you have an exact number? You

916
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: know that many people click based on if you watch

917
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: for more than a minute, if you listen for more

918
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: than five minutes, whatever the requirements are. You know, how

919
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: does television have any clue? If I'm watching television at

920
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: my house, Let's say I pull up YouTube TV Thursday night, Cowboys, Eagles,

921
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: and Patty and Ron, my neighbor Sam and Julie who

922
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: live down the street, and ten other people that are

923
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: their friends as well, come over to my house and

924
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: watch the game. Let's assume I'm getting credit me and

925
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: my wife for watching the game. What if I have

926
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: fifteen other people at my house watching the game? How

927
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: can they possibly account for that? Now? I think we

928
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: all agree, and we know that a lot of people

929
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: are watching football games, right, Like, if you telled me

930
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: seven million people watched Belichick, but fifteen million people watched

931
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: the first thirty minutes of that game, I'd be like,

932
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: I believe you. But could that number be five million

933
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: people more, three million people less? I think it's a

934
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: purely educated guess. I was thinking about this today because

935
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: was it like yesterday one of the it might have

936
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: been Sunday. It was Sunday because ABC had Miami Notre

937
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: Dame and ESPN had South Carolina Virginia Tech. Well, when

938
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: that game ended, it became a bunch of like baseball

939
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: talk about Major League Baseball. And I've loved sports my

940
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: whole life. I've made a career out of it. It's

941
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: pretty clear less people than ever are watching baseball, right,

942
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: it's just not culturally relevant. And you kind of feel

943
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 1: that at times with the NBA. But when I see

944
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 1: these numbers, if you sell me ten million people watch

945
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: the finals, yeah, that number could have been eight and

946
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: also could have been like fifteen if you factor in bars,

947
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: if you factor in you know, group settings, how do

948
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: you account for you know, whenever I travel, you realize, God,

949
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: Fox Sports one is on at every airport I've been

950
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: to over the last six months. So every time I

951
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: go there, Collin's on. So I started thinking, like, when

952
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: I was on with Colin, imagine all the people in

953
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: the airport that's on. Now the sound's not necessarily on,

954
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: So do you get credit? Do you not get credit?

955
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: But it's all kind of an educated guess. I mean,

956
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: the biggest scam of all time, not even close, was

957
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: terrestrial radio that some of these people in big markets

958
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, I think one hundred thousand people are listening, Well,

959
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: it could be or it could be thirty thousand, or

960
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: could be five hundred thousand people. Now there are certain

961
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: shows like Howard Stern is Prime in York, or Mike

962
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: and the Mad Dog or Rush Limbaugh, Jim Rome clearly

963
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: in like the nineties, a lot of people were listening

964
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: to certain specific shows, but it was a complete educated

965
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: guess based on meters representing a segment of society on

966
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: how many people are listening. And television and Nielsen to

967
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: me is a little bit like that, which is crazy

968
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: because the amount of money that's online, specifically for the NFL,

969
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: you're talking billions of dollars in these sales. So if

970
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: you think about it, if you're gonna pitch to Netflix

971
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: and Amazon Prime in these people and you say concrete

972
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: numbers because they'll know. So when you watch Amazon Prime.

973
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: When I watch Amazon Prime, I keep saying, Bezos, he's

974
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: not even around anymore. But Amazon knows exactly how many

975
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: people are watching for how long specific like where else

976
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: you go if you're watching on your computer, do you

977
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: buy anything? They have all the information. Television has none

978
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: of that, and radio legitimately has none of that. That's

979
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: why I say, hey, advertisers, you are getting scammed in

980
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: terrestrial radio. Come over to where we push product and

981
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: you can quantify it. And that's why they have and

982
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: they continue to and that's why where the money's flown.

983
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: Major Longhorns fan here, I know Arch looked bad against

984
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: Ohio State. But my question isn't about that. My question

985
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: is why the hell was start calling quarterback power over

986
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: and over again in the red zone. He's athletic, but

987
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: he's not a big body like Cam Newton. Stark willingly

988
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: put his quarterback, who was already struggling in a position

989
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: where he's meeting a linebacker in the hole. They ran

990
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak? Was it fourth down in the goal line?

991
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: I forget that game feels like a lifetime ago. Whenever

992
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: they ran a quarterback sneak, it might have been the worst.

993
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: I saw someone tweet this and I agreed. It's the

994
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: worst quarterback sneak I've ever seen. The offensive line didn't

995
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: know what to do. Arch like barely moved. I mean

996
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: it was it was pretty bad. Now, I heard someone

997
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: else say the thing with quarterback sneaks, especially with a

998
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: new quarterback, it's not a play you practice, so it

999
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: can be a little hit or miss. Yeah, they clearly

1000
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: are were not good in the red zone. I heard

1001
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: someone break down, like the last four years of Sark,

1002
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: they have been getting progressively worse in the red zone.

1003
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm with you on Arch he's athletic

1004
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: like Caleb Williams athletic. You're not gonna run quarterback power

1005
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: with Kayleb Williams, but you can get him out on

1006
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: the move to throw like I thought that was part

1007
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: of Arch. But are you gonna run like Arch like

1008
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: he's Cam Newton or Kyler Murray. Clearly he's not that

1009
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: comfortable now again, Ohio State is gonna be one of

1010
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: the best teams you play all season long, potentially the best.

1011
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: But like when you play Georgia Florida in A and M,

1012
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: you know, Arch is gonna be feels like a little

1013
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: intimidated to like lower his shoulder against these guys, thinking

1014
00:54:54,360 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: that he's faster than these guys. I defend sark I

1015
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: felt like he was feeling out his quarterback and trying

1016
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: to figure out what he did well and what he

1017
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: didn't do well, specifically against a really good opponent. Theoretically,

1018
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: after a bad season from both programs, could Bama and

1019
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: USC do a coach trade. The schools agree to assume

1020
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: the contracts of each Klan would get to go back

1021
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: to the West Coast and Lincoln could go back to

1022
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: the South. Both the big guys are big name guys,

1023
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: and after another bad season, I think they would sign

1024
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: up for change with their money preserved. It's a good question.

1025
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: I think if if Lincoln Riley had a bad season,

1026
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't think Alabama would want any part of them.

1027
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: I think USC would be more open to Debor than

1028
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: I think Alabama would be to Lincoln. But I'm with you,

1029
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: neither one of these guys. It would get way uglier

1030
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: because of the standard who he's replacing in Alley Obama,

1031
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: where I could see if they just went like six

1032
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: and six, Kaitlin being like, I want to quit, but

1033
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: no human alive could give up that type of money.

1034
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: So he's kind of in a predicament with Lincoln. I

1035
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: would imagine in USC this year's like eight or nine

1036
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: wins Bama. You could convince me everything's on the table

1037
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: right now. If the Bengals defense is as bad as

1038
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: it was last year, how close to a twenty eleven

1039
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers does Joe Burrow have to be to drag

1040
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals to the playoffs. Rogers that year forty six

1041
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: hundred yards, forty five touchdowns, six interceptions. Packers went fifteen

1042
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: to one thirty second in total defense. If you told

1043
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: me Burrow right now is forty five and six, I

1044
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: would change my opinion. I would put the Bengals in

1045
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But if you told me the Bengals had

1046
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: the thirty second ranked defense, I don't think it'd be

1047
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: possible for them to go fifteen to one. I think

1048
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: the most wins they could have would be like twelve

1049
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: or thirteen. In this day and age, I just think

1050
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: the quarterback plays so much better in twenty twelve or

1051
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five than it was in twenty eleven. I mean,

1052
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: you know Stafford was there. Who would have been the

1053
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 1: Vikings quarterback then? I don't even know. I'm gonna click Cincinnati,

1054
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: just see who they play. You know, they play Flaco,

1055
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: so they would win that game. Jack could win that game.

1056
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: But then you just get like at the Vikings, at

1057
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: the Broncos, the Lions, the Packers, the Steelers, the Steelers,

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00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: Pats at home, the Ravens, the Bills, the Ravens, Kyler Murray. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he had a historic like no doubt

1060
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: about an MVP year, twelve or thirteen wins, thirteen fight

1061
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: probably feel like the max. If your defense was atrocious,

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00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: testa tour is so bad. Dude definitely lives and dies

1063
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: by what people say about him on Twitter. I saw

1064
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: Peter Schrager tweet this, and I don't necessarily disagree that,

1065
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: Like he really appreciated Joe Testatur's passion and how excited

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00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: he is because a lot of people in sports, I

1067
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: would say, broadcasters, podcasters, definitely, people on TV sometimes feel

1068
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: like they don't even like it, Like why are you

1069
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: Are you just doing this for the money? And the

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00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: answer is yes, especially for some of these people with

1071
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: the amount of money they're making, Like do you like football?

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Speaker 1: I remember when I stayed with Colin like a month ago,

1073
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: we were just like watching shitty preseason football, having cocktails

1074
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: and ordering food and just talking about like football philosophies.

1075
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Speaker 1: And I think there are a lot of people that

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00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: talk about sports that would just not would not want

1077
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: to watch preseason football, And I think a lot of

1078
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: people in this business don't necessarily like it. Where there

1079
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: is no disputing that test Tour gets really excited, I'd

1080
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: argue it's a little over the top. I thought it

1081
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: was a little much this weekend. I mean there were

1082
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: moments where I felt like he was just screaming at

1083
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: every play which I would if you told me you

1084
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: get that or you get a guy that's monotone and sucks.

1085
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: I guess I will take that, but I am in

1086
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: agreement that it is a little overkill. Now I will

1087
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: say this. One of my best friends, dude that officiated

1088
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: my wedding, I was in his wedding. Guy Haberman is

1089
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: now the forty nine ers play by play guy this

1090
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: year because Greg Papa got sick and he does he

1091
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: does big ten games. He did pack twelve games for

1092
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: everyone at forever. I'm talking football, basketball, baseball. That profession

1093
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: is really hard. Whenever someone that doesn't quite knows sports

1094
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: asked me like, do you want to call games? No One,

1095
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 1: I can't. Like, I don't have that capability. I don't

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00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: have that talent. And two I don't even pretend or

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: think that I could. Like I tried play by play

1098
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: for a couple games in college for college baseball at

1099
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: cal Pauly on like internet radio, and I remember thinking

1100
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Speaker 1: this is impossible. So it is. It's a very difficult

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01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: thing to do and be good at. But I do

1102
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: think his style can be a little much. But I

1103
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: say the same thing for Gus with Joel, Like I

1104
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: don't mind Gus, but I think sometimes it's like, okay,

1105
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: we get it, like jeez, Louise, and Gus is like,

1106
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: that's kind of his lane. Tess treats some of these moments.

1107
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: It's like a b he's a boxing guy, like a

1108
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: boxing knockout, which, again you feel like a hater. You're

1109
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,959
Speaker 1: talking shit, and I do respect that profession is really

1110
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: hard to do. If you took a random sports fan

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01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: and put him in that seat, I'm not talking the

1112
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: analyst syat and be like, oh, it's a great catch, Joe,

1113
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's a big time hit. Oh he's got to

1114
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: get down in the hole. I'm talking about calling me

1115
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: play by play radio or television. I don't think the

1116
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: common person understands how hard you would fail and how

1117
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: embarrassing you would sound. I'm talking about someone that knows sports.

1118
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: So it's just not really my style. Again, it's hard.

1119
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: There's different strokes for different folks. Uh, congrats on the baby.

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Speaker 1: Wife and I are expecting are first in February. We

1121
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: actually went to the doctor to day, and I don't

1122
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: think I quite realized once we got in, Maria knew

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: and she had kind of mentioned it. Maybe I wasn't

1124
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: totally paying attention, but said, oh, this is the big

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Speaker 1: appointment where we go over one hundred things to make

1126
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Speaker 1: sure your baby, you know, just has toes heart brain.

1127
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, so you find bad stuff here, like every

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Speaker 1: once in a while, Yeah, some devastating happens. My heart

1129
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: just started pounding, and I'm sitting there. I started like praying.

1130
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm not even religious. It's exhilarating. Twenty minutes. Everything's good

1131
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: so far. So we're good in the clear? Are you

1132
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: on the packers? For the value? Lions have a better quarterback,

1133
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: better wide receiver, better wide receiver too, better tight end,

1134
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: better running back, better running back. Two. I mean, Josh

1135
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: Jacobs is better than Montgomery. If you want to take

1136
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 1: Gibbs over Jacobs, okay, I mean Josh Jacobs a high

1137
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: end player, better a line, and Hutchinson is probably the

1138
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,959
Speaker 1: best defensive player between the two teams. And I agree,

1139
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: I would take Hutchinson over Michael Parsons. Do you think

1140
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: losing Ben Johnson sets all of that off? I just

1141
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: think losing two coordinators a really big deal. You know,

1142
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: when you are John Harbus's proven that he can go

1143
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: through coordinators, and it all kind of works out, but

1144
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: he's been doing it for twenty years. Right. We have

1145
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: seen Jim Harball, We saw him at Michigan, Like when

1146
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 1: he gets the wrong coordinator, it can kind of go bad.

1147
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: So I just don't know. I'm not acting like the

1148
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: Lions can't win this division. And you could argue there's

1149
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: value in betting the Lions, maybe because if you told

1150
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,479
Speaker 1: me that Aaron and Ben Johnson had returned, they would

1151
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: be the heavy favorites to win this division. But what

1152
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: matters in the NFL when, for the most part, like

1153
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: the gap between the Packers and the Lions is not

1154
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: that big, right, you would agree with that. It's not

1155
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: like you guys are some unbeatable team and they're just

1156
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: like an average good team, Like they're pretty freaking good.

1157
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: They add Micah Parsons. But coaching really really matters. So

1158
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: who do I feel better about? Matt Lafleur or Johnny Morton, who,

1159
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: for whatever reason is fifty five and no one ever

1160
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: wants to make him his offensive coordinator, Halfley who had

1161
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: the best Packer defense in a long time, or a

1162
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: guy that's a young, a young coach that's never been

1163
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: a coordinator. Now, by all accounts is going to be good.

1164
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: I feel better about the Lions on defense than I

1165
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: do offense. I just think sometimes when you lose the ingenuity,

1166
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: the innovation, the creativity, like you can't fake that. It's

1167
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: why it's like, hey, this guy is our next CEO.

1168
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: It looks great on paper, and then he gets in

1169
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: charge and it just fails. It happens all the time

1170
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 1: in all sorts of industries. You put people in positions,

1171
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: you go, God, this guy checks every box. Look who

1172
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: he's worked with, Look what he's accomplished, Look who signs

1173
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: off on him. And then he gets in the position.

1174
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: This is not good. And some people you're like to

1175
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: look at his resume. It sucks. Yeah, he's just a natural.

1176
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: No one would have thought when he was twenty eight

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01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: theo Epstein was gonna be one of the great gms.

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01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: You know what, He's got a great feel for it.

1179
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: He's pretty fucking good. I would have bet everything I

1180
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: had against Sean McVay working out. I'm like, wait, thirty

1181
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: thirty one year old is gonna coach be a head

1182
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,479
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL in the internet era. No chance,

1183
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: not gonna work. It's the hall of favor. So you

1184
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: you just don't know, and when it works, it's incredible.

1185
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: No one knew Ben Johnson was Ben Johnson four years ago.

1186
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: Two years ago, Ben Johnson's turning down jobs. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna wait. Redskins are like what we

1188
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: want to make you the head coach like, now, I'm good,

1189
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: turn your plane around. But no one would have thought

1190
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: that two years previously. Don't know and that variable, you

1191
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: know again talking insurance, mitigating risks. It could go well,

1192
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: could be fine, or it could be a major problem

1193
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: and they could just be off. Because calling plays is

1194
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: there's a feel element to it that can't be quantified.

1195
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: I saw, I guess the Browns assistant GM is some chick,

1196
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: and she was like talking about the quarterback situation. She

1197
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: was like talking data points. I mean, she's clearly very analytical.

1198
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Speaker 1: She's talking like a robot. It's like you're dealing with

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Speaker 1: and souls and you know, the tangibles or intangibles. It's

1201
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: impossible to quantify. So yeah, there's data points on specific stuff,

1202
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: how fast a guy can run, how many catches he's

1203
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: gonna have. But you can't quantify what a guy's gonna

1204
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: be like as a play caller. You can't quantify how

1205
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: intune Ben Johnson was one clearly a natural, but two

1206
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: like just understood his personnel and been there the whole

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01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: time and then bringing in a new guy. I'd say

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Speaker 1: the same thing for Aaron Glenn though. I do think

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Speaker 1: you know, defensively, if they're healthy, they're going to be

1210
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Speaker 1: pretty good. They got a lot of good players there. Yeah,

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01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I'm betting on the Packers structure, coach,

1212
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 1: the GM, just the whole operation. That's what I'm betting on.

1213
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: And for the first time, you know, not saying Dan

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01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: Campbell can't win the division. I'm a Dan Campbell fan,

1215
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: huge fan. I fucking love Dan Campbell. But when you're

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Speaker 1: a CEO head coach, like, if there's a drop off

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01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: that can cost you a couple of games, and the

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Speaker 1: difference of winning fifteen games and twelve or thirteen games,

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01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: could simply be the coordinator and if you win twelve

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Speaker 1: and the Packers win thirteen, all of a sudden, you're

1221
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: a wild card. They win the division. I'm not acting

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: like the Lions are gonna win seven games. Here, but

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01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: I am fascinated and I wasn't even like Colin It

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Speaker 1: It's like they were just not buttoned up. I'm more

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Speaker 1: I felt like Ben Johnson knew what to call Johnny

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Speaker 1: Moore than I don't know. All the other NFL teams

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Speaker 1: we don't make him. The offensive teams all over the

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