1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd Podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: for listening to The Herd podcast. 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of things that people complain 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: about in the world of sports, but one thing, as 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: it turns out, is going to be coming a little 11 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 2: bit more valuable as the season goes on. We'll get 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: into that for you coming up here in just a 13 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: couple of moments from now. Jonas Knox in for Colin 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: here on The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. You 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 2: can find this show on the iHeartRadio app. You can 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: also find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: As we take you all the way up until three 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: pm Eastern time, noon Pacific. And I was thinking about 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: this as we are still in the midst of the 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: college football labored a weekend extravaganza where you've got like 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: seven hundred games over a four day span or whatever 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 2: it did five day span and that's not to be 23 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: disrespectful to Week zero, all right, A lot of respect 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: for Week zero. That still counts. I don't know why 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: it's called week zero. It's kind of odd, but we've 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: got this giant college football weekend. And I was thinking 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: about this. Thank God for the expanded College Football Playoff, 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: because man, there's a lot of teams out there that are, like, 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: you know what, we don't get a preseason, kind of 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: ran into a little bit of a difficult situation. At 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: least we're going to have some time to sort through 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: these things. And you're looking back at last year and 33 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: you go, man, Ohio State won a national championship. If 34 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: you would have told them on the field, as Michigan 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: is celebrating at the Horseshoe in Columbus, hey guys, don't 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: worry about it. You're gonna win a national championship. People 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have believed you. They probably wouldn't have cared. 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: But the expanded College Football Playoff has given teams an 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: opportunity to maybe not be so punished for a loss, 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: and god forbid a loss. When you go into a 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: difficult situation like some of these teams went into this weekend, 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: whether it's Texas going to the Horseshoe and taken on 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: the defending national champions, whether it's Notre Dame going to 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: Miami and taken on the Hurricanes. I mean, Brian Kelly, 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: credit to LSU, But do you really think looking at 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: that game now, do you think Clemson when it's all 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 2: said and done, is going to be a forgotten team 48 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: in the college football Playoff? Who knows, Maybe they melt down, 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: maybe kay Klubnick suffers an unfortunate injury, like who knows. 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: But the point is you've now got the opportunity to 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: make up for your OH that you lose. If you 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: have the balls to take on somebody early in this season, 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: that would be a difficult matchup. This used to happen 54 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: in boxing all the time. Fighters would protect their OH 55 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: because it was looked at as like this, oh man, listen, 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: if you are undefeated, it mean And then all of 57 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: a sudden the UFC came around and were like, yeah, 58 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: whatever thing's happened. Got caught in a choke, got clipped, 59 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: got hit behind the ear, Hey what happened? 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: You know? 61 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: Listen, that's the way this stuff goes. And you now 62 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: start looking back and going who are the greatest fighters 63 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: of all time? Not George Saint Pierre's in the conversation losses. 64 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: Everybody loved Connor McGregor, a lot of losses, Daniel Cormier losses. 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: John Jones has got one by technicality. 66 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: But it's like you look at it, you go, yeah, 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: a loss isn't the end of the world. It's not 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: the end of the road. It's not the end of 69 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: your career. It's why people loved Manipaqiow, maybe over Floyd Mayweather. 70 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather undefeated, great career. Manypaqiow had balls, took chances, 71 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: took fights he probably didn't need to take, took dangerous fights, 72 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 2: fought in a dangerous style because he wasn't so fixated 73 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: on keeping his perfect record. And college football has now 74 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: given teams an opportunity to do that. He got some 75 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: people that were looking at it and going yeah. But 76 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: if you expand the college football playoffs, then you know 77 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: it's going to diminish some of the impact of some 78 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: of these games. 79 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: No, it's not. No, it's not. 80 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: It's not gonna take away from the entertainment value. Did 81 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: you watch this weekend? It was awesome, It was great. 82 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: To have college football back, and I got news for you. 83 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 2: The quality of games weren't even that great. Ohio State 84 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: Texas wasn't that great of a game. You want to 85 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: know how good of a game Ohio State Texas was. 86 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: There were people trying to figure out whether or not 87 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: Ryan Day had a nipple piercing. That's how that's that's 88 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: a kind of quality game we were talking about here. But 89 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: it didn't matter. It was the atmosphere. It was finally back. 90 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: People were starved for it, and in a lot of 91 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: ways it delivered. You did see sloppy games, but the 92 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: atmosphere was there. And more than that, you saw teams 93 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: take chances. Teams look at this as an opportunity to 94 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: make a statement. But even if you come up short, 95 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: you're not gonna be punished unfairly to where it would 96 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: have happened in the years past. And as I mentioned, 97 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: open up, look, these guys don't get preseason games. That's 98 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 2: why it looks like this. That's why the first game 99 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: of the year in Dublin was awful in the first half. 100 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: Turnovers rain great. It's like sloppy, sloppy, it's gonna happen. 101 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: So when you look at college football and you look 102 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: at the landscape of college football. I know there may 103 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: be some people who don't like the expanded playoffs. They 104 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: don't like the fact that we've got so many teams. Dude, 105 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: it's going to save seasons and give teams an opportunity 106 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: to make up for God forbid, suffering a loss. It's 107 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: no longer boxing. You're not going to be punished or 108 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: judged differently if you suffer a loss, especially early in 109 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: the season, you're going to have an opportunity. And the 110 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: expanded playoffs is giving these teams an opportunity they would 111 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: have never have had in years past. At the Jonas 112 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: Knox on X is where you can find us. By 113 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: the way, you can follow along on Instagram as well too. 114 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: At Jonas Knox Show on Instagram is where you can 115 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 2: find us. All right, So now speaking of the college 116 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: football weekend, all right, let's go back to Columbus. And 117 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: now we're not talking about Ryan Days nibble piercing. We're 118 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: not getting into that. Some people have said that's a 119 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: fake photo. It looked like a It didn't even look 120 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: like a hoop. It looked like a bar. Which look, 121 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: you know, guys getting after it a little bit. Maybe 122 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: he polishes his beard, maybe he doesn't. You know, the 123 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: great Petros Papadakas was the first to point that out. 124 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: I'm not here to judge. I've got I've made awful decisions, 125 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: I've had piercings, i got dumb tattoos. I'm not here 126 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 2: to judge. Ryan Day wants to go get his nipple, Piers, 127 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: Go get his nipple, Piers. But maybe it was a 128 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: fake photo. Maybe it wasn't the other story to come 129 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: out of that game, outside of whether or not Ryan 130 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: Day hit up a piercing shop in Columbus and got 131 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: his breast stabbed by a guy with thirty five thousand tattoos. 132 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: The arch Manning reaction. Now, to be fair, let's give 133 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: the man an opportunity to talk. Let's listen to arch Manning. 134 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: Here he was following the difficult performance and difficult game 135 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: and difficult set i he was in in Columbus. 136 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't start fast enough. 137 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: Took a whole half for us to kind of even 138 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 4: get the ball down the field. So that starts with 139 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: me get back to square one and get back Monday 140 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: and go prepare for Santage State. Yeah, ultimately not good enough. Obviously, 141 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: you don't want to start off the season zero to one. 142 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 4: They're a good team, but I thought we beat ourselves 143 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 4: a lot, and that starts with me, and I got 144 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: to play better for us to win. I can't wait 145 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: till the second half to kind of get things going. 146 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: All right. That was arch Manning. 147 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't know who did this. I don't know who's 148 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: responsible for this. And look, I'm not trying to blame 149 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: other people in the industry or in media, all right, 150 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out the fact that I was not 151 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: one of these people. I felt like I had a 152 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: more rational understanding of what the expectation should be. My 153 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: expectations were a little different. But I don't know what 154 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: people thought they were going to get from a guy 155 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: who has two starts in his career, who's going on 156 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: the road against the defending national champions at their house 157 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: in front of a hundred plus thousand people in his 158 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: third start in Week one, when as I mentioned, things 159 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: are going to be a little sloppy, not just for 160 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: arch Manning, but for a lot of teams in college 161 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: football because, as I mentioned, you don't get a preseason, 162 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: and I'm seeing like this referendum on arch Manning. Oh 163 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: my god, the Heisman odds have dipped. The Heisman odds 164 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: have dipped. 165 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 5: Okay. 166 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: You want to talk about some of the other things 167 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: that you could gamble on throughout the course of time, 168 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 2: all right? Anybody else want to talk about You want 169 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 2: to talk about the fact that people were betting on 170 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: where was the next place a sex toy was going 171 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: to be thrown on the court at a WNBA game? 172 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: Okay? 173 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: And that got more action than a futures bet on 174 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: who was going to win the w NBA Championship. You 175 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: can bet on a lot of things, all right. So 176 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: let's take that with a grain of salt. And that's 177 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: not to insult my friends in the gambling industry. I'm 178 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: a degenerate proud of it, okay, but let's not look 179 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: at it go all by got the Heisman odds? 180 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: Who said the odds? Who perpetuated this story? 181 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 2: Who's the one that was pushing arch Manning out there 182 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: to be the next big thing? 183 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: On two starts? And I got news for you. 184 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: Maybe he turns things around, maybe against San Jose State 185 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: or some of these other schools. 186 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: He's gonna find his rhythm. 187 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: He looked a little better in the second half, but yeah, 188 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: he's gonna struggle. My guess would be a lot of 189 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: quarterbacks would struggle in that environment against that team. And 190 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 2: credit to Matt Patricia, the defensive coordinator for Ohio State. 191 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: But this idea that all like all of yep, the 192 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: book has written on arch Manning really who wrote the 193 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: first one? We got two pages in and everybody was like, oh, 194 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: this is the greatest novel I've ever seen. You're two 195 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: pages in he started two games. Who pushed that out there? 196 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: I didn't because it doesn't make sense. We've seen this 197 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: when it comes to college football in the past. Nobody 198 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: was talking about Johnny Manziel. Nobody was talking about Johnny Manziel. 199 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: I can remember the one guy. There was one guy 200 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: who was trying to tell people about Johnny Manziel, and 201 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: he kept calling him Johnny Football. I'm like, dude, John Frickey, 202 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: former Fox Sports radio host. I remember working with Fricky 203 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: and I remember him saying, Johnny football, got to watch 204 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: out for Johnny football. Nobody else was talking about Johnny Manziel. 205 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: You couldn't even get an interview with the guy. I 206 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: tried Texas a and m said, now he's a freshman. 207 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: We don't let freshmen do interviews. The point is RG 208 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 2: three being a Heisman Nobody had RG three winning the Heisman, 209 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: and then he lit everything up the first week of 210 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: the season. Everyone's like, oh, that guy might be a contender. 211 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: But this idea that going into the season off two starts, Oh, 212 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: he's the Heisman favorite, he's this, he's that, he's a 213 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: first off. I'm not gonna say it's unfair to him. 214 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: His last name is Manning. We know that comes with 215 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: the territory. But who pushed this notion out there? It 216 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: was unrealistic, the entire idea that Arch Manning was going 217 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: to be out there and he was gonna light up 218 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: Ohio State and they got problem. Dude, it's the first week, 219 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: it's his third start, and that's Ohio State. This doesn't 220 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: mean that all of a sudden he's a bust. It 221 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that, you know, Arch Manning. No, it's gonna 222 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: take some time and maybe he wasn't as good as 223 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: everybody built him up to be yet. But whose fault 224 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: is that Arch Manning? It's not his fault. His granddad's 225 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: talking about, well, he wants to stay in school. He 226 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: wants to stay in this People are talking about, well, 227 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 2: you know, the Saints are trying to take form or 228 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: tank form, and arch Manning's like, like, I don't know 229 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: where anybody's getting this from, Like I haven't made any 230 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: decisions what is happening here. So for everybody out there 231 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: who all of a sudden is has decided on what 232 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: their opinion of arch Manning is after one game, maybe 233 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: we should revisit your opinion before that game, after he 234 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: started two games, to get a better understanding as to 235 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: how realistic the idea of what you thought was going 236 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: to happen really was. Jonas Knox in for Colin here 237 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: on the Herd on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, 238 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 2: brought to you by Rocket Mortgage. The home you've worked 239 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: so hard for is ready to work hard for you 240 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 2: with a home equity loan from Rocket Mortgage. To learn 241 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: how you can turn your homes equity into cash, visit 242 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: Rocket mortgage dot com today. Rocket Mortgage LLC licensed in 243 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: fifteen the state's Nmlsconsumer Access dot Org number three zero 244 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: three zero. 245 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 3: All right, so we're. 246 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: Going to have some fun here on the Herd as 247 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: we again take you all the way up until noon 248 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: Pacific time three Eastern time, we will have the Herdline news, 249 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: all sorts of Shenanigans. College Football's back. We got a 250 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 2: big debut coming up later on tonight. All of that 251 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: is yours here on this three hour extravaganza. Up next, though, 252 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: the shade has already started. Somebody already throwing shade. And 253 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: they didn't even need to like outsource anybody for this idea. 254 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: They just stayed local in the world of sports. Find 255 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: out who that is next. 256 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 257 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 6: and noone Easter non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 258 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 6: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 259 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 7: Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben 260 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 7: Maller with me and a lot to have you join 261 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 7: us on our weekly auditory journey dressed. 262 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 5: What in God's name is the Fifth Hour? 263 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 7: I'll tell you it's a spinoff The Ben Mather Show, 264 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,359 Speaker 7: a cult hit overnights on FSR. 265 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 5: Why should you listen? Picture if you will a world will. 266 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 7: We chat with captains of industry in media, sports, and 267 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 7: more every week explore some amazing. 268 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 5: Facts about human nature and more. 269 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 7: Listen to the Fifth Hour with Ben Maler or the 270 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 7: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. 271 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: So somebody in the world of football already feel in 272 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: the heat, already feel in the heat? Well, look explain 273 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: who that is coming up here in just a couple 274 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: of moments from now. Jonas Knox in for Colin Cowherd 275 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: here on The Herd on Fox Sports Radio. You can 276 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: always find this show on the iHeartRadio app. You can 277 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: always find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country, 278 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: and wherever you are making us a part of your 279 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: labor day Monday, we appreciate you doing so, as we 280 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: take you all the way up until three o'clock Eastern 281 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: time noon Pacific. By the way, I do a show 282 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: during the week if you're not familiar with LeVar Arrington 283 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: and Brady Quinn called Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, 284 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: which you can hear on these Fox Sports Radio affiliates 285 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: six to nine am Eastern time, three to six am 286 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: Pacific time. You can also catch me on Saturdays here 287 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio two to four pm Eastern time, 288 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: eleven am to one pm Pacific time. And I bring 289 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: up Saturday because this past Saturday, you know, doing a show. 290 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: The Ohio State Texas game is going on, and I'm 291 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: watching the reaction to arch manning struggles and then just 292 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: kind of seeing maybe the overreaction to some things throughout 293 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: college football that doesn't make it this point earlier, I said, look, 294 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I like the fact that the College Football 295 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: Playoff gives teams an opportunity to suffer a loss, to 296 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: struggle a little bit early on. 297 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: I like that. 298 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: Because it allows you to go through those difficulties and 299 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: still not be punished so much that you can't play 300 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: for something bigger. Right, This isn't like boxing, where you 301 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: would be punished if you lost your perfect record, all right. 302 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: They're more like the UFC or like, hey, you got 303 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: a couple of losses. Whatever, If you're next in line 304 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: for a title shot, you're getting a title shot. Like look, 305 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: whoever's next in line. You got to do the work, 306 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: but whoever's next in line, you're gonna get your opportunity. 307 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: The College Football Playoffs allowed teams to do that, so 308 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: you could lose early on in the season. You could 309 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: be a Clemson and lose and everything's going to be fine. 310 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: You could be a Notre Dame and lose to Miami 311 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: and everything's going to be fine. Christ Notre Dame lost 312 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: last year to Northern Illinois and still figure it out 313 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: a way to get in. Like you can be in 314 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: Ohio State and lose to Michigan and you're still going 315 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: to have an opportunity. And then there's Alabama, and then 316 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: there's Canaan de Bor and take it over for Dick 317 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: Saban and eh, you open up this year, you take 318 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: on Florida State, who won two games a year ago, 319 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: and you just get annihilated at the line of scrimmage, 320 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: which just didn't happen when Nick Saban was the coach 321 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: at Alabama, right, it. 322 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 3: Just looked a little bit different. 323 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: And so they go into Tallahassee and get stomped out 324 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, Klein de boris feel in 325 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: the heat and he spoke about the performance of Alabama 326 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: following the loss to Florida State. 327 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 8: That's us to believe we got to go football team, 328 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 8: But you know, we can't play on our heels like 329 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 8: we're not going to be what we think we can be, 330 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 8: what we want to be if that's the case. And 331 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 8: so again that falls on everyone. I don't just put 332 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 8: the point the finger at the players. You know, gave 333 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 8: the I know the both sides of the ball. I mean, 334 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 8: you kind of know what you're gonna see, but going 335 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 8: into the game, but you know, with new coordinators, but 336 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 8: we gotta you know, we talked in the locker room. 337 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 8: There's there's no excuse about what happened. We step on 338 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 8: the football fild, they step on the football field, and 339 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 8: we got to play ball. 340 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: We got to play our style of ball. 341 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 8: And you know last year isn't this year, and it's 342 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 8: going to be an uphill climb for us. But you 343 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 8: can't think of it the big scope of things. You 344 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 8: got to focus on the moment and the next moment 345 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 8: is what happens tomorrow. 346 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: That's Calin de boor the Alabama head coach following the 347 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: loss to Florida State. All of that makes sense, and 348 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: all of that is the probably the right outlook to have, 349 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: especially after losing that And as I mentioned earlier, look, 350 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: these are difficult games, especially if you go on the road. 351 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 2: If you go on the road in a difficult environment 352 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 2: early on, it's what makes the LSU win so impressive. 353 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: But if you go on the road early on, I 354 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: don't care what Florida State was last year. They're not 355 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: a two win team. Like, I don't see Florida State 356 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: winning one more game the rest of the year. That's 357 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: a difficult place. Everybody's fired up. Fans have been licking 358 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: the lid in the parking lot for hours at that point, 359 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: probably stayed up from the night before. But that's a 360 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 2: fiery environment. 361 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 3: So I look at it. I go, look, man, Yeah, 362 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: it's a difficult loss. 363 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 5: I get it. 364 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 3: But you can bounce back, much like Texas. You can 365 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 3: bounce back. 366 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 2: But it's Alabama and that's the problem, and that's the issue, 367 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: and that's why there are differences here. 368 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 3: It's what makes college football great to. 369 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: Where I'm not condoning poisoning a tree that's been there 370 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: for two hundred years. Okay, but that happened, and it 371 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: happens in college football. Did anybody see the Alabama fan 372 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: who went viral? Somebody zoomed in on an Alabama fan 373 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: as they were getting stomped out by Florida State, and 374 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: the guy just literally threw up a middle finger. He 375 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: knew he was on camera, he knew it was in 376 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: the stadium. He was pissed. He was your typical Alabama 377 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: fan polo shirt, a slouch hat with the with the 378 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: bill curved so much that you could barely see his eyes. 379 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 2: Camera pops up on him and he just throws them 380 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: the bird. Couldn't even care less. That's Alabama. That's that's 381 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 2: the way they operate. As somebody who worked and spent 382 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: time in sec country doing radio back in the day, 383 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: somebody who's been to Alabama. That fan base has a 384 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: certain level of expectation, and that certain level of expectation 385 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: is because of Nick Saban. He's the greatest to ever 386 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: do it. And Calin de Boor has taken over a 387 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: near impossible job because to be the guy after Nick Saban. 388 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: Is a real pain in the ass. It just is. 389 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: But that that's a difficult task to have to take 390 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: over that job. And that's why when Caleaen de bor 391 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: took the job, was like, I get it. He's getting paid, 392 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: but damn, that's a lot to ask. Just to give 393 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: you an idea the level of success that Nick Saban 394 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: had at Alabama. Just to give you an idea, Calin 395 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: de Boor already in his time at Alabama has four 396 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: losses versus unranked teams. Nick Saban had four losses versus 397 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 2: unranked teams in seventeen years, Like, we got a problem. 398 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,479 Speaker 2: It's a problem. Okay, there's already people calling for Canada 399 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: Bor's job. All right, there's already the fans are already out. 400 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 2: They are already out in full force. There's got to 401 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: be some changes here that the things have got it with, 402 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 2: you know, we gotta somebody's got to do something. This 403 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: is unacceptable. And Alabama's probably gonna turn out to be 404 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: a pre what a good team. And look, because of 405 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: the expanded college Football Playoff, maybe Alabama's going to bounce back, 406 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: Maybe they'll go on a run in the SEC. 407 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: Maybe everything's going to be fine. 408 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: Or Alabama fans are finally realizing, yeah, that's not Nick Saban. 409 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: And it doesn't mean that Calen Divor is not a 410 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 2: good coach. He did great things at Washington. It doesn't 411 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: mean he's not a good coach. He is. But that 412 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 2: job at that school, with that program and those expectations, 413 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: is a different level. 414 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: It just is. 415 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: I was born and raised in southern California. Right now, 416 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: some people will call it the Hato five, right, but 417 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: I was born and raised in Thousand Oaks, California. 418 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 3: I liked college football growing up. 419 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 4: I was. 420 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: I was a fan of college football obviously, you know, 421 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: the great Miami teams back in the day. I like 422 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: college football, of course, the traditions, all that stuff, but 423 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: I didn't get college football. 424 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: I liked it, but I didn't totally get it. 425 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: Until I started doing radio in the South and I realize, 426 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: oh god, it's just different here. 427 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: It really is. 428 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: And that's not to diminish what USC did with Matt 429 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: Lioner and Reggie Bush and those guys, and Pete Carroll, 430 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 2: that's not to diminish them. But even then, at the 431 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: height of USC and the dominant program that they had, 432 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: even then some of the great players and greatest teams 433 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: we've ever seen, it's not even close to what it 434 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: is in the South during college football season. It isn't 435 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 2: even not even a fraction. And we're talking about like 436 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: mid tier SEC teams like South Carolina. When I was 437 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: there and Steve Spurrier was the coach, they were okay, 438 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: they weren't competing for a national championship. That wasn't happening, 439 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: but they're okay. Fan base is nuts. What do you 440 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: think Alabama is like? Alabama? 441 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 6: Then? 442 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: And that was before Nick Saban put together this legendary 443 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: run in Tuscaloosa that was even then, that fan base 444 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: was crazy. Like they they live and breathe and die 445 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: college football. That's all they care about. So while Klein 446 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 2: de Borr is a very good coach who can withstand 447 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: a lot of the heat and other places in Tuscalosa, 448 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 2: that's a tall task. That's a really tall task. Nebraska 449 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: great program, right, they couldn't wait to get rid of Bopolini, 450 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: and bo Polini was winning nine games a year constantly. 451 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: Not good enough, not good enough? See ya, Okay, how's 452 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 2: that going? I mean, Matt Ruhle, maybe he has him 453 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: back to prominence, maybe he can get him there, but 454 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: that wasn't good enough. And whatever Kaylen de Boor does 455 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: short of Nick Saban is not going to be good enough. 456 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 2: He took on an impossible task. He's expected to take 457 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 2: over and replace the greatest to ever do it. And 458 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 2: on top of that, in a place that is obsessed 459 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 2: with that program, obsessed. They care about football in the 460 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: South more than you care about your kids. They are obsessed. 461 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: And so whatever Kaylen de Boor says after the game, 462 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: and maybe they'll bounce back and maybe they'll respond and 463 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: maybe they'll go on a heater. They're still going to 464 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: be majority of Alabama fans that are like, yeah, but 465 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: he's not Saban, And I got news for you. He's 466 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 2: never going to be Saban. He's going to feel the 467 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: heat because he took on the impossible task of replacing 468 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: the greatest ever do it, and more often than not, 469 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: that never ends well. At the Jonas Knocks on x 470 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: at Jonas knock Show on Instagram is where you can 471 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: follow along as we are in for the herd here 472 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, we're brought to 473 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: you by Rocket Mortgage. The home you've worked so hard 474 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: for is ready to work hard for you with a 475 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: home equity loan from Rocket Mortgage. To learn how you 476 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 2: can turn your home's equity into cash, visit Rocket mortgage 477 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: dot com today. Rocket Mortgage LLC. License in fifty states, NMLS, 478 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 2: Consumer Access dot Org number three zero three zero. 479 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: All right, so the proof is in the numbers. Okay. 480 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: And while some people might look at you and say 481 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: you've got issues, you've got a problem, I look at 482 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: you and I say, you know what, You're ahead of 483 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: your time. Find out who that is, right, here next 484 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 485 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 486 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 6: at noon Easter not am Pacific. 487 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: It's a Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Jonas Knox 488 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: in for Colin. You can find this show on the 489 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. You can find us on hundreds of affiliates 490 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: all across the country. Wherever you are making us a 491 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: part of your labor day, we appreciate you doing so. Now. 492 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: I am normally on the air during the week Monday 493 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: through Friday, six to nine am Eastern Time three to 494 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: six am Pacific Time with LeVar Arrington and Brady Quinn. 495 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 2: It's called Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. This 496 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: is always a very interesting and bizarre world to live in. 497 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: Looking around and there's actually daylight out, cars on the road, 498 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: you know, not anybody wandering the streets with paraphernalia like 499 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: spoons with burnmarks in the bottom and other things around 500 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: the mean streets of Sherman Oaks, California. Always a different 501 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: world when there's actually a light out and people around 502 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: than driving in at two in the morning. Always a 503 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: different world. But we are having a good time here 504 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: on this Labor Day Monday. A lot of college football 505 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 2: to discuss. And my point on the college Football Weekend 506 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: is it used to be back in the day where 507 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: and I never judged these teos. I never did. If 508 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: Nick Saban or one of these other schools scheduled a 509 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: quote unquote cupcake early on, I never complained or never 510 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: judged because I could understand why they would take that approach, 511 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: because with no preseason, with no you got to get 512 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: yourself going. So the idea of opening up in a 513 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: difficult place on the road is a lot to ask for. 514 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: We had a chance. We talked with Kenny Dillingham a 515 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago and kind of asked him, like, hey, man, 516 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: with no preseason game, because the's a lot of people 517 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: are like, well, you know, the NFL preseason we really needed, etcetera, etcetera. 518 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: I said, look, in college football, you don't get a preseason. 519 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: Ask Kenny Dillingham, like, hey, if you look, with no preseason, 520 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: how do you feel about the first. 521 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: Week of the year. 522 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: And he goes, It's always the one I worry about 523 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: the most because you're just not sure, like you're dealing 524 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: with you know, eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one. Well, now 525 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: it's college football with the portal like thirty five year 526 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: old kids. 527 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: It's like now now. 528 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 2: I mean that part of its change. But the point 529 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: is like when these teams do schedule really difficult matchups, 530 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: I'm never overly judgy on how that goes. Like Brian 531 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: Kelly and LSU had been hearing for a long time 532 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: about their struggles early on. I think they had lost 533 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: five straight openers. Brian Kelly was zero and three and openers. 534 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: You remember last year they opened the season against USC 535 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: in Vegas and Brian Kelly opens the year and they 536 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: lose again and it's like, oh man, But ultimately LSU 537 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: figured it out and they were making a run late 538 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: and USC was awful. 539 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: It's like things. 540 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: Change after the first week. And for Brian Kelly and 541 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: LSU to come from Death Valley, go to Death Valley 542 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: and win that game the way they did, that's impressive. 543 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: But Clemson, it's not going to be a knock on Clemson. 544 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: Clemson will you know, bounce back and figure it out. 545 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: They've got a potential Heisman candidate and Kate Klubnick like, 546 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: they've got an opportunity to make a run win that conference. 547 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: They're gonna be fine. Texas Ohio State. I mean, look, yeah, 548 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: it's a tough loss for Texas, but Texas will bound. 549 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: They're going to bounce back. And arch Manning struggled. It 550 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's going to be He's going to struggle 551 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: this much the entire year. Just maybe he wasn't exactly 552 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: what everybody presented him to be, but that wasn't his fault. 553 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: Whoever's whoever started that. You got to look back and go, man, 554 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: why would we think that a guy coming in on 555 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: two starts was going to go into Columbus and just 556 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: light up the Buckeys, who, by the way, just won 557 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: a national championship. So like, you look at these Week 558 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: one debuts of these new teams, and you look at 559 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: how they're presented, and you look at it and it's 560 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 2: like everybody just relaxed, everybody just slowed down. Things are 561 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: going to look a lot different, all right, Things are 562 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: going to look a lot different, Which is what makes 563 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: this debut that much more entertaining because we are going 564 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: to get later on tonight the debut of Bill Belichick, 565 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: the college football coach, and I can't not wait. I 566 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: love this version of Bill Belichick parading around with a 567 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: parading around with a rocket ship. They're doing trademarks. He's 568 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: dressed up like he's the Vandy Camps mascot and they're 569 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: doing photo shoots in Nantucket. 570 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. 571 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: Yay, you do? You were there? Okay, thank you, you're welcome. 572 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 4: Anything else? 573 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had like an hour. 574 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 5: Answer the question twice. 575 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: Oh Lizen, I'm not even asking anything. 576 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 5: Bill. 577 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: Let me speak for you, Bill, okay, because you are 578 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: now going to be taking part in the banana land 579 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: that is college football. And of course he opens up 580 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: the year in primetime in a standalone opportunity like listen, 581 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: like he'd been many years in the NFL, and it's 582 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: going to be Bill Belichick in North Carolina against TCU. 583 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: And what's so fascinating about this debut for Bill Belichick is, 584 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: don't worry. There's only going to be one of these, 585 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: because he's probably gone after this year back to the NFL. 586 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: That would be my guess if I was betting right now, 587 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick is coaching in the NFL next year. 588 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 5: Sorry to do it the best way of the team. 589 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 2: If North Carolina wins eight to nine games and he's successful, 590 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: Belichick's going to be back because He's got a little 591 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 2: bit of a red ass about the way that he 592 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: was portrayed by Robert Craft and the New England Patriots. 593 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: He's multiple times pointed out how things got sideways. How 594 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: when Robert Craft says, oh, well, you know, my most 595 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 2: successful risk that I took was joining was hiring Bill Belichick, 596 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: who and Belichick was like, no, it was kind of 597 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 2: a risky job that I took. Like He's made it 598 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: a point on multiple occasions to point out all the 599 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: success that he had there, talked about when they were 600 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 2: successful full in New England and how that ties into 601 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: the college football atmosphere. When they were successful, there were 602 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: less cooks in the kitchen, so to speak, et cetera, 603 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: et cetera. Like Belichick has made it a point to 604 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: let everybody know, I'm still not over the way that 605 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: I was represented after I left. The fact that I 606 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: wasn't interviewed for more jobs other than the Falcons was preposterous. 607 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: The fact that the Falcons didn't hire me because you 608 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: had insecure people in the front office who didn't want 609 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: to collaborate with Belichick because of the power that he 610 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: might have is ridiculous. The fact that nobody else brought 611 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: him in for an interview is insane, and so Belichick's like, 612 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 2: all right, cool, I'll go coach college football, and what 613 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 2: if he's successful? Like what if this works? What if 614 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: this one works? What if this debut for Belichick works? 615 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: Like we're talking about the arch Manning stuff and it's like, 616 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 2: oh boy, what a disappointment. It's like, well, the expectations 617 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: were a bit out of whack. I mean, the Heisman odds, 618 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. I don't think anybody really has 619 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: an expectation for Belichick. I think everybody's just really intrigued 620 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: by it. It's similar to the Deon Sanders stuff. When 621 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: he took over Colorado. You could say whatever you want 622 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 2: about Dion's running Colorado and look, they lose the opener, 623 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 2: some clock management issues, you know, some things that you 624 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 2: know looked a little bit a little bit odd there. 625 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: But nonetheless, say whatever you want about Deon Sanders. They 626 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 2: didn't win a conference championship. They have won a national championship. 627 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 2: Here's what I do know. That program he took over 628 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 2: was a diaper fire. Dion took him over a year 629 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 2: after a one win season. They were having rap concerts. 630 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 2: Before games. He completely changed the program. But I don't 631 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: think anybody looked at Deon Sanders in Colorado and were like, God, 632 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 2: oh boy, this is going to be this and it's 633 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 2: going to be that. I think we were just really intrigued. 634 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: I was same thing with Bellichick. I'm fascinated to see 635 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: how this is gonna go. We've never seen it before. 636 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 2: He's the greatest of all time and he's trying to 637 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: do it at the college level. We've never seen him 638 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: do this before. But I think this is just part 639 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: of the revenge tour. This is the first stop. Eventually, 640 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: he's going back to the NFL. If you were asking 641 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: me to bet money on which team's gonna hire Belichick 642 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: next year, I'm betting on the Dolphins. I'll take Miami. 643 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: Not I like Mike McDaniel. But if you know, if 644 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: we were talking earlier about things, it feels like things 645 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: are gonna go sideways there in Miami. If they're gonna 646 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: make a change, you imagine Belichick going to Miami, going 647 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 2: back to that division to see Robert Craft twice a year. 648 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 2: So while this is a debut for Belichick and I'm 649 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: fascinated to see what it looks like I don't think 650 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 2: this is the end of the road for his coaching career. 651 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 2: Like I don't think he just goes to college and says, 652 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: I'm good here, Nick Saban may or may not come back. 653 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: Who knows. 654 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: There's some people, like I know, we feel like he's 655 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 2: gonna come back, and you know, maybe, like who knows, 656 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: a lot of Alabama fans would like him back in Tuscaloosa. 657 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 2: I can't imagine he would go back there after walking 658 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: away from the whole thing. Maybe has a better understanding 659 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: about But like, I think Belichick's going to be back. 660 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 2: I think this is a pit stop. He's on tour. 661 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: It's a revenge tour against Robert Kraft. It starts at 662 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: North Carolina. But whatever expectations there were for Arch Manning 663 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 2: or any of these other programs going into this weekend, 664 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody has an expectation for Belichick because 665 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody knows what the hell this is 666 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: going to look. Like it's going to be odd to 667 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 2: see Belichick on the sideline for North Carolina. Like the 668 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 2: entire story this offseason, like you didn't hear anything about 669 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: the football roster. All you've heard about was the stuff 670 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 2: with his girlfriend. Like all these like deep dives and 671 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 2: investigative YouTube reports and all this stuff. I don't think 672 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: anybody has a real idea what this is going to 673 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 2: look like. Mike Lombardi running things behind the scenes, there 674 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: Belichick on the sidelines coaching North Carol. Like, That's what 675 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 2: makes this one more interesting in my mind than any 676 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 2: other debut or presentation we've gotten this weekend, because we're 677 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 2: going to get to see something we never thought we'd 678 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: see and we've never had the opportunity to see before. 679 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: And it's Bill Belichick coaching at the college level. And 680 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 2: it all starts tonight, but ultimately I think it ends 681 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 2: with him back in the NFL at the Jonas Knox 682 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 2: on X at Jonas Knox Show on Instagram's where you 683 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 2: can find us, all right, So coming up. 684 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: Next here on the Herd. 685 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 2: Somebody in the NFL gets a lot of love, gets 686 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: celebrated a lot, but if you think about it, there's 687 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: not a lot that separates him one of the worst 688 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 2: in the league. I'll tell you who that is next.