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Speaker 2: Welcome everyone. It is Kentucky Sports Radio, Wednesday, December tenth.

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Speaker 2: who's going to be on the show for He's been

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Speaker 2: on it before, but it's been a little while. I

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Speaker 2: guess unless you had him during TBT. Did you have

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Speaker 2: him during that time?

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Speaker 3: No, we had him with a remote show during the summer.

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Speaker 2: That's right, it's been but it's been a while since

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Speaker 2: I've seen him, So I'm looking forward. I got I'm

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Speaker 2: interested to hear his take on our our basketball team

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Speaker 2: and a lot of the stuff that's going on. This

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Speaker 2: is gonna be a big show today. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: ahead and tell you we're gonna talk about the game.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about some of what the players

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Speaker 2: and Pope said after the game, and then I want

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Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about through the Grapevine, Ryan hearing.

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Speaker 2: There's a story coming out today that's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Scoopy Scoop here today.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't, but there are people that do, and

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Speaker 2: I kind of know it's coming. So I'm gonna we're

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Speaker 2: gonna hint on it. Okay, So that's probably do all

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Speaker 2: that in the first hour, and then Darius will be

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Speaker 2: here in the second hour. Let's start with the game.

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Beats in C Central one oh three sixty seven

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Speaker 2: started out kind of. I was talking to Hubby this

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Speaker 2: morning and he said, I think we were about two

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Speaker 2: more airs from a second set of booze coming up

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Speaker 2: in the arena, but then a sixteen to oh run

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Speaker 2: game gets kind of put away. I think going I

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Speaker 2: think the takeaway from the game is probably that at

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Speaker 2: least one person just got binched. Brandon Garrison. I think

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Speaker 2: that's probably the takeaway. Shot the ball a little bit better. Overall,

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Speaker 2: let's leave the Garrison thing aside. What's your biggest takeaway

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what I wanted to see. I

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Speaker 3: wanted to see him shoot the ball better, seen him

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Speaker 3: pay a little more energy, a little more effort, which

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Speaker 3: they did.

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Speaker 2: They did not at the beginning, but after that time out, I.

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Speaker 3: Think Trent Noah starting lineup did kind of give him

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Speaker 3: a little boost of fresh air, little energy, jolten and

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Speaker 3: he knocked down to three to start the game. I

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Speaker 3: So the main thing, I was just happy that they

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Speaker 3: shot the ball better. That was my main objective to

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Speaker 3: see can you knock down a couple threes, and they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the two Kentucky boys of the story for me,

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Speaker 4: Jasper having that big game, getting twenty two points, maybe

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Speaker 4: that can be a little bit of a breakthrough from him.

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Speaker 4: And then Trent Noah, even though he was hitting his threes,

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Speaker 4: he was doing everything else too. I mean, he was

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Speaker 4: a complete player, effort, energy, everything we've wanted out of

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Speaker 4: an outstanding game even though he only had ten eleven points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Not Noah played really really well, and I think

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Speaker 2: Granted, I mean I'm taking we've beaten all these teams

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Speaker 3: Who called it on the pregame show he called the

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Speaker 2: Mack gave the pregame speech.

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Speaker 4: He didn't I can't figure out the rest of the team,

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Speaker 2: I think zach Tau gave the pregame speech about what

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Speaker 2: it means to wear the jersey. I guess that's kind

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Speaker 3: Pope said he got a little teary eyity and he's

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Speaker 3: talking to the guys in his pregame speech. So it

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Speaker 3: was good see Jasper kind of a breakout game. Good

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Speaker 3: to see Oway kind of get back to the Oway

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Speaker 2: I thought Oway was positive throughout the year. That was

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Speaker 2: First of all, Brandon Garrison has another highlight play that

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Speaker 2: kind of is like the old way highlight play from

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Speaker 2: the game last week. He turns it over, jogs up

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Speaker 2: Pope calls time out, lays into him as mad as

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Speaker 2: then doesn't play him for the rest of the game.

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Speaker 2: He's interviewed at halftime, he looks very angry. After the

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Speaker 2: and didn't look like that had satisfied him, which makes

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Speaker 2: But that anger still seemed palpitable on his face. After

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Speaker 2: Dowster had suggested that they should kick Brandon Garrison off

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Speaker 2: But that suggests to me that those guys have even

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Speaker 2: of Brandon Garrison right now? Well, that's I mean, we

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Speaker 2: didn't want them to play bad. We'd rather him play well.

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Speaker 4: But that's what fans have wanted for a while from

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Speaker 4: Pope is to send a message and guys that just

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Speaker 4: aren't getting done needed to go sit down and let

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Speaker 4: the bench be a tool. And when he got stripped

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Speaker 4: for an easy bucket and it doesn't run, doesn't right,

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Speaker 4: It's yeah, I mean, the effort is a ninety percent

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Speaker 2: I mean, he could have gotten back with his length

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Speaker 2: he could have gotten back and blocked that shot. That

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Speaker 2: that I think is part of what's frustrated.

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Speaker 4: And there's been several times where he just hasn't tried

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Speaker 4: other parts of the game. So the two turnovers and

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Speaker 4: just looking like he's not even engaged. That's gone on

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Speaker 4: long enough, and clearly Pope had had enough.

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Speaker 2: It was I mean, he was very very angry. Clearly.

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Speaker 3: I think they preached at the Gonzaga game, Look, that

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Speaker 3: was unacceptable. You are gonna play with the effort, you

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Speaker 3: are gonna play with the energy, you are gonna play hard.

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Speaker 3: You are gonna play with hard, or you're not gonna play.

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Speaker 3: And I think Pope's in a message to everybody when

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Speaker 3: he pulled Brandon out, and that's when things kind of

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Speaker 3: turned around. They started playing better after that.

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Speaker 2: Are we seeing the end of the Brandon Garrison.

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Speaker 3: I think it's coinciding with the beginning of the Jaden Quaintons.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I'll note what Rob Doster said. Rob

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Speaker 2: they said that last week. It didn't get a lot

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Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised Pope did it, but I was surprised

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Speaker 2: that after the game he looked just as angry abit,

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Speaker 2: which is almost like nobody had tried to make amends.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that.

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Speaker 4: I think Ryan's right. I think the timeline of quaintance.

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Speaker 4: I think Pope gave him as many opportunities as he could,

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Speaker 4: knowing he needs him right now. But when Queen's checks in,

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Speaker 4: somebody's gonna sit and we.

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Speaker 2: Think he's gonna play maybe Saturday, so he becomes even

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Speaker 4: So Pup might have just said, I've given you chance

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Speaker 4: and that's how you're gonna show up or not show up.

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Speaker 3: Even last night, you know, he played yellowtch at the

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Speaker 3: without you, Pale, if you're not gonna do what we

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Speaker 2: Pally Pally well, I don't say Pally, but Powell. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean that fans have been I mean, Brandon Garrison's been.

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Speaker 2: I think fans least favorite player this year, no doubt

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Speaker 2: it is in terms of the return of him. It's

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Speaker 2: been so disappointed, it has been. And you know, I

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Speaker 2: guess the only thing he's done is occasionally he's made

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Speaker 2: threes when no one else can make one. But that's

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Speaker 2: really it. I do wonder if you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: Cal's old quote, you can have one knuck head on

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Speaker 2: the team. You can't have two. I'm not calling him

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Speaker 2: a knucklehead, but there may be a sense of them saying, look,

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Speaker 2: we can't have you spoiling the broth.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, we're trying to reset and get on the

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Speaker 4: right track, and if anybody's in our way or holding

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Speaker 4: us back, you might not be a part of that

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Speaker 2: And that's one reason. When you got twelve guys, maybe

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Speaker 4: And I don't know to the extreme of kicking him

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Speaker 4: off the team like some shows said, but he can

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Speaker 4: certainly go sit at the end of the bench and

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Speaker 4: check in with Walker and Zach if yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean kicking off the team. Well, I can't even

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Speaker 2: remember when the last time Tugi's kicked a guy off

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Speaker 2: the team. I mean, I don't think that happens very much,

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Speaker 2: but not playing or making him the eleventh man is

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Speaker 2: certainly I mean, that might have happened anyone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to be honest with you, So you know, Pope

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Speaker 3: calls the time out just to chew on Brandon Garrison,

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Speaker 3: spends the whole time out chewing on Brandon Garrison, breaks

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Speaker 3: a clipboard chewing on Brandon Garrison. So I think the

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Speaker 3: other guys. I took it as a message received because

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Speaker 3: I think we all agree he loves this program, he

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Speaker 2: Finding it inspiring or hopeful. I did last night, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I like him. Like we've always said, we want our

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Speaker 4: The thing is the Waltons. But he liked the Alaskans too.

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Speaker 2: He mentioned something about Alaska. What about Oway? So after

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Still still on the other half, Philip Puppy, You you

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Speaker 4: Over and like dances By it's the fund the Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when the game was over, always said,

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Speaker 3: You buy that well, I took it as I didn't

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Speaker 2: Garrison was not there.

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Speaker 3: He was not there, but Diabte was there, Aberdeen was there,

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Speaker 2: See why's he got to say that? Nobody said that,

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Speaker 2: But you're the you're you're the one that said that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. You can't say it looks like they

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Speaker 4: Let's they believe it.

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Speaker 2: He said, this is gonna end up being a year

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Speaker 3: I think there's still plenty of time to turn this around.

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Speaker 3: The SEC is not like it was last year. There's

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Speaker 2: We don't have a Julius Randall's to carry you to

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Speaker 3: You gotta win Saturday, though. You cannot let Indiana come

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean went well last night. Doesn't change

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Tukey Sports Radio. If I'm nine two eight

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Speaker 2: You may remember Ryan Lemons scooped Lamar Wilkerson would be

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Speaker 3: Ten of fifteen from threes.

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Speaker 2: Would be nice to have that guy would, in my goodness.

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Speaker 3: Set the IU record last night. Because that game came

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Speaker 2: If he comes in here and scores thirty next week,

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Speaker 4: I completely agree. And Indiana had been on a little

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Speaker 4: And it wasn't just the threes. He was like sixteen

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Speaker 3: So I feel like he got it all out of

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Speaker 2: I hope you're right. We'll see usually that's not how

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Speaker 2: I was very skeptical about how this was gonna work

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Speaker 2: And there's going to be a story coming out later

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Speaker 2: This was my fear. My fears have been manifested, I think,

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Speaker 4: I've been concerned since day one. I don't love what

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Speaker 2: Let me explain to you why the Score Act real

435
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Speaker 2: quickly is unlikely to pass in the way Mitch wants it.

436
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Speaker 2: Mitch wants the Score Act to pass, and there will

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Speaker 2: be an Act eventually that's passed. But the way the

438
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Speaker 2: House and Senate work is the Democrats in the Senate

439
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Speaker 2: have to agree. You cannot just pass it along by

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Speaker 2: party lines. It's not even clear all the Republicans agree

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Speaker 2: because some of these people represent states that are not

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Speaker 2: in the power five. Right. I've talked about how Washington State.

443
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Speaker 2: There's a couple of Washington State alums who are like,

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Speaker 2: how you gonna leave out Washington State in Oregon state.

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Speaker 2: So even if it could pass just with Republicans, it

446
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Speaker 2: might not pass. But they still have to get Democrats,

447
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Speaker 2: and the Democrats are not gonna sign on to something

448
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Speaker 2: that says players have to do whatever the NCAA says.

449
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Speaker 2: So Mitch has been hoping for this thing that just

450
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Speaker 2: wasn't going to happen, at least in the form he

451
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Speaker 2: thinks it's gonna happen, and we created a business deal

452
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Speaker 2: under the assumption legislation is gonna pass that it's not.

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Speaker 4: Clear will Yeah, he wants it all to be in house,

454
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Speaker 4: and if the rules ritten where it's in house, then

455
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Speaker 4: sure you're a little ahead of it. But it's not

456
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Speaker 4: looking like that's the case. No other school is like

457
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Speaker 4: pushing away outside collectives or deals. There's no rules or

458
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Speaker 4: the rules he thinks that are in place right now

459
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Speaker 4: do not exist. When he said that, it will Stein's

460
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Speaker 4: thing like, we will not play outside the laws. What

461
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Speaker 4: I think these laws are in your head right now

462
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Speaker 4: because no other school is doing it.

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Speaker 2: And the guy that's the guy that you see on

464
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Speaker 2: TV who's pushing the score Act, you know, the guy

465
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Speaker 2: that shows up during commercials and he's like, save sports,

466
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Speaker 2: pass the score Act. It's a Texas Tech alum. Here's

467
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Speaker 2: a little secret. He's trying to get that legislation passed.

468
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Speaker 2: But he's not playing by the rules either. He's still

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Speaker 2: operating a private collective at Texas Tech. That's why they're

470
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Speaker 2: good at sports right now? Is he so the same

471
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Speaker 2: guy trying to pass the legislation even he realized if

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Speaker 2: this doesn't pass, I'm still doing this. And yet we're

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Speaker 2: following rules.

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Speaker 4: We're really locked in.

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Speaker 2: Mitch is a hall monitor and the teacher is out

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Speaker 2: of school. Mitch is walking down the hallway going follow

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Speaker 2: the rules, and the teachers are on spring break, and

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Speaker 2: we're you're gonna see later today the results of that

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Speaker 2: Kentucky Sports Radio website, so I will leave it then.

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Speaker 2: They also know more about it. They've been researching this

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Speaker 2: for for a while. I will say that one more

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Speaker 2: thing about it. I don't care what the deal is.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five years is absurd when the laws are not

494
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Speaker 2: when the laws are not even in place yet, you

495
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Speaker 2: don't even know they're gonna pass. It's a new company

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Speaker 2: and a completely new thing. Twenty five years is insanity

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Speaker 2: to put on anything, wouldn't you agree?

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Speaker 4: And just the fact that it's a media company that

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Speaker 4: I personally don't even think is that good at media.

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Speaker 4: We're handing them off a whole nother here's a whole

501
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Speaker 4: other job, completely different company now and all of our

502
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Speaker 4: athletic success rods on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I I was skeptical from moment one. Again,

504
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Speaker 2: I hope to be proven wrong. Maybe we still will be,

505
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Speaker 2: but the early returns make me very worried. One person

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Speaker 2: writes Matt, I heard on the postgame show that Ryan

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Speaker 2: is going to watch The Godfather? Is he excited?

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Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I think I'm gonna do it tonight.

509
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Speaker 3: I have nothing going on the night, so I was

510
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Speaker 3: gonna try to watch it tonight.

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Speaker 2: Will you approach it with an open mind that you're

512
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Speaker 2: gonna enjoy because I think you will enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: Well, You've to be honest. You have me and watch

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Speaker 3: a lot of stuff, and you've never led me astraysen Ryan.

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Speaker 2: You will like this this one. I know you'll losch Okay,

516
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Speaker 2: I know. I mean there are times I ask you

517
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Speaker 2: watch something. I'm like, eh, I don't know if you

518
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Speaker 2: like it, may not. You're gonna like this like it's

519
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Speaker 2: it's it's the kind of manly old movie. Plus like

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Speaker 2: some of the things that make people not like it

521
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Speaker 2: because in the seventies movies are paced a little slower.

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Speaker 2: That's your era, So you're gonna be fine with.

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Speaker 3: It, Okay, I think nice to night. I'm gonna try

524
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Speaker 3: to sit down and watch it. Two hours. That's a

525
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Speaker 3: long time for three.

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Speaker 2: Hours, oh good said, it's more like two fifty. Maybe

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Speaker 2: i'll break it up the Yeah, probably two hours and

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Speaker 2: fifty minutes.

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Speaker 4: Thus the hour you're gonna spend trying to find it.

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Speaker 2: It's very true, John, I think it's on paramount. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: so do you have paramount?

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Speaker 3: I don't, but Yoga girl does.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're perfect. I love when a good plan comes together. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it's it's on paramount.

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Speaker 3: I mean you suggested righteous gym stones. They gotta be

536
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Speaker 3: about the same, right, little.

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Speaker 2: Different than righteous jim Stones, but equally as entertaining. I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you're gonna like all the characters. You're gonna be

539
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Speaker 2: I bet you. I bet you. You come in like

540
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Speaker 2: quote in lines. Okay, okay, and then they happen tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: If I watch it tonight and then Godfather Too. I

542
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Speaker 2: think you'll like as well. It's a little more intellectual.

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Speaker 2: Some people think Godfather Too is the best movie of

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Speaker 2: all time.

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Speaker 3: That's what I always heard. It was better than the original,

546
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Speaker 3: Like one of the few sequels.

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Speaker 2: That was. I think they're both. They're both two of

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Speaker 2: the twenty five best movies I've seen, both of them,

549
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Speaker 2: which is very rare for a in the sequel. I

550
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Speaker 2: think the third one's not terrible. It's just people compare

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Speaker 2: it to the first two, which is a little bit

552
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Speaker 2: harsh on. I think one, Yeah, we don't want to worry,

553
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Speaker 2: want to just do the first. The third one? Can

554
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Speaker 2: you get the first one? Gotchaf I'm eighty seven. Bentton

555
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Speaker 2: is in the house, Marshall County over.

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Speaker 3: There's always take a Harold when and they said, My

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Speaker 3: first thoughts went to Harold god Rest. He saw what

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Speaker 3: a great guy that man was.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was in the big bank, Big bank. Still there,

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Speaker 2: Big bank, big bank. We like the big bank. Who's

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Speaker 2: up first, Frank, Frank, go ahead, Frank.

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Speaker 5: I think it's difficult, you know, in in most scenarios

563
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Speaker 5: to you know, say that anything is guaranteed, Matt, I

564
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Speaker 5: can guarantee you this. If somebody in Corporate America gave

565
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Speaker 5: out two lifetime extensions to two coaches with no safety

566
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Speaker 5: precautions whatsoever to protect their entity, and then handed a

567
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Speaker 5: twenty five year deal to a media company who's mediocre.

568
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Speaker 5: In many different areas, they would be fired on the spot.

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Speaker 5: These people live in a different world. It is insane

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Speaker 5: to me that this guy still has a job. And

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Speaker 5: I'm also tired of people saying he's the best athletic

572
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Speaker 5: director in the history of the school. He's okay, he's good,

573
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Speaker 5: but really the last these actions of the last five

574
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Speaker 5: years have taken him from excellent to great two okay

575
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Speaker 5: and solid. And I'm sorry, but this guy needs to

576
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Speaker 5: retire like this week.

577
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Speaker 6: It's enough?

578
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Speaker 3: Is enough?

579
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Speaker 2: Well?

580
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Speaker 5: How many times is he going to keep putting this

581
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Speaker 5: in a horrible spot as a university?

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Speaker 2: This is a joke. Well, I appreciate the call, all right.

583
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: So that call had a lot of layers. Your first

584
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Speaker 2: part where you say no one in corporate America could

585
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Speaker 2: give this many bad contracts and be kept is completely valid.

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Speaker 2: Mitch needs to We need a transition to a different air.

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Speaker 2: I said that after we lost to Louisville and on

588
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: the Stoops thing, I felt like it even more when

589
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Speaker 2: he started yelling at the at the thing about you

590
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Speaker 2: all about garbage. I mean, he looked like people aren't

591
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Speaker 2: gonna like this, But that's fine. I don't even care

592
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Speaker 2: if they do or not. It reminds me differently about

593
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: like when I wake up and see a five thousand

594
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Speaker 2: word Donald Trump Twitter rant about he's the healthiest person

595
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Speaker 2: in America, and I'm like, dude, come on. I felt

596
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Speaker 2: that way listening to him start yelling about garbage. I'm like, dude,

597
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Speaker 2: come on, you are an athletic director. You can't keep

598
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Speaker 2: your temper for three seconds when people ask you about

599
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Speaker 2: the most important thing in college sports. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: ahead and tell you this afternoon, I'm going to put

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Speaker 2: in a request to have him on the show next week.

602
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: I'll let people know if he says yes or no.

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Speaker 2: He needs to be asked all these questions and if

604
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Speaker 2: he won't answer him To me, that says a lot.

605
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Speaker 2: And I like him, but I'm kinda tired of it,

606
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Speaker 2: and I think all those questions are valid, and the

607
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Speaker 2: way he loses his temper about reasonable things says to

608
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Speaker 2: me it's time for him to step aside. It's just

609
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Speaker 2: it'll be better for everybody. I thought about this last

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Speaker 2: night when they were doing the O Way interview. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we have a relatively positive night. The guys are standing

612
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Speaker 2: behind him. You know, whether you think that's real or not.

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Speaker 2: It's a good thing to see. And what's playing in

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Speaker 2: the background, it's all go down to do Miss Walker. Now.

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Speaker 2: I love that song, but it is twoenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: and we're out here doomas Walker in it again. I

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Speaker 2: love that song.

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Speaker 4: Every great song I love it too.

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Speaker 2: But come on, can we modernize a little bit? Right?

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Speaker 4: Where are we on the cutting end? Are we the

621
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Speaker 4: best at anything? Or do we have anything that we're

622
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Speaker 4: at the forefront of, like, oh, this is a great

623
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Speaker 4: idea no one else is doing.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question.

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Speaker 4: What is keeping something small?

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Speaker 2: What in twenty twenty five is Kentucky Athletics on the

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Speaker 2: forefront of.

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Speaker 4: Are we in the top eight of the conference?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to think, cause I'm sure there's

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Speaker 2: some I mean, like, okay, we probably have one of

631
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Speaker 2: the better consistent across sports women's sports programs. That's fair, volleyball,

632
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Speaker 2: women's basketball, even women's softball has been in good gymnastics.

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Speaker 2: In turn, I can't think of anything that I would say,

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Speaker 2: I mean.

635
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Speaker 4: Like anything related like game day experience, but just put

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Speaker 4: us at the bottom of the.

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Speaker 2: List, not not even close. Nothing related to game day,

638
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Speaker 2: nothing related to marketing, nothing related to media. No, we're not.

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Speaker 2: We're not at forefront of anything, and I would say

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Speaker 2: that we are behind on most things.

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Speaker 4: Would you agree with that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I always thought one of the best

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Speaker 3: things we do is is to bring out a former

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Speaker 3: athlete or basketball player to do the why in Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: But you think we're the first party. You think we're

646
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Speaker 2: the only people that bring out former athletes that wave

647
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Speaker 2: the crowd. I mean at all. We do every team,

648
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Speaker 2: every team thirty years. I mean we've been spelling the

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Speaker 2: why since the seventies.

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Speaker 3: But what do we do that's better than that?

651
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Speaker 2: Nothing? That's it. We don't do anything.

652
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Speaker 4: And listen to doom as Walker.

653
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: You know we still do the the confetti and they

654
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: announced the eruption zone. We've been doing that for twenty

655
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: five years. We've got you know, the big flag and

656
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: the eruptions and we've been doing that for twenty five years.

657
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 3: There's nothing we've done new and innovative.

658
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: I mean, most Kentucky games are when you talk about

659
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: the thing that they do, I'm not sometimes our fans

660
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 2: bring it, but most Kentucky games are like a really

661
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: fun church picnic. I mean, it can be fun. But

662
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: it's a church picnic. You're not like, it's not the

663
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: place you're taking your friends and be like, here we go.

664
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: And there's a few surprises. I'm singing the songs in

665
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: Reparina before they even hit play because my body just knows,

666
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 4: all right, money time.

667
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I've enjoyed as cam. I'll give them that

668
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: was a good addition.

669
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: And I've said this before. Up in the last four

670
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: or five years has added more like video stuff. Football

671
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: games have a long way to go on that, but

672
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: things like the snackwards cam. One thing that they're trying.

673
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: One thing I think we're above average is basketball social media.

674
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: I will give them that. I actually think they do

675
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: a pretty good job with those journey videos and that stuff.

676
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: I actually think that's one thing I would say we

677
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: are above average, but I wouldn't say we're like, you know,

678
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: on the cutting edge of anything. But I also worry

679
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: like if you, let's say, Mitch Leaves, I mean, you know,

680
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: like Capluto's been here for sixty years too, like we've

681
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: also have to have a commitment to trying something new

682
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: just across the board.

683
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: I think they relied on the fact that that we're

684
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: Kentucky basketball, where the where the number one, and everything

685
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: we do, the crowd's gonna survive and applaud no matter

686
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: what we do well.

687
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: I mean you also have gone completely away from from

688
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: carrying about what your fans want. In terms of games,

689
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: I mean, the BBN Classic is a joke. Right, We're

690
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: playing good teams, so I'm not gonna act like our

691
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: schedule stinks, but the BBING Classic is a joke. While

692
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: all the rest of these teams in the country are

693
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: playing cool not we're and we're never going to And

694
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: when I asked about it, we're just like, well, we

695
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: make more money doing this, you know.

696
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: And I feel like I've heard Mark Pope cut an

697
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: ad for some email newsletter that they just came up with,

698
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: Like that's the groundbreaking stuff. We'd have an email that

699
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: everyone needs to say we have an email. There's like

700
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 4: ten radio ads about sign up for an email. It's like,

701
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: what are we doing?

702
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: What year is this? Yeah, well, I'm gonna ask him

703
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: to come on. I'm gonna put that request in this

704
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: afternoon and we'll see, Uh, we'll see what he decides.

705
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Speaker 2: Darius Miller just walked in. He'll be joining us at

716
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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock. This is Kentucky Sports Radio. Yeah, down the

717
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: dooms Walker. I mean, I listen, I get I like

718
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: this song, but this is just not I mean, it

719
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: makes it seem like we're in like the middle of

720
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: the sticks. Hey, we just want we will go and

721
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: bottle of ski, like, come on here, we got an

722
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: interview in the start of the game.

723
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: Oh take it away. Yeah, the ski and we're all

724
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: focused on what we're hearing behind it.

725
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: And everybody else like at these other stadiums are just

726
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: like blasting music and grinding and we're like, hey, I

727
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: got me bottle ski.

728
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 4: They're like a slow burger in the Kentucky here.

729
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: I hate that they they don't deserve it because I

730
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: like that music. It's not the moment for the moment.

731
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: It's not the moment for it. I really like Hungry

732
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: Eyes Shinnon listen to it twice last night. Yeah, it's

733
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: a wonderful song. I don't think in that moment we

734
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: should go Hungry to Eric Carmen onto the core to

735
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: the film look at you like, I just don't think

736
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: that's the time to do it, at least for me.

737
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: A f nine, twenty two eighty seven. Quickly, Uh, yesterday

738
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: I got my spotter. Oh, they asked me to talk

739
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: to three of them. I didn't know what to say

740
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,919
Speaker 2: to any of them, so I just called the first.

741
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: He seemed like a nice guy, and I was like,

742
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: this one's fine. You didn't even vet the other two. No,

743
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: the other two didn't answer their phone the first time

744
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: they got the first guy, he's good. Now. I told him,

745
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: I said, I have my own stats guy. His name's Billy,

746
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: and he goes, well, all right, what's his his uh,

747
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: what's his strategy for stats? And I went, doesn't really

748
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: have one, never done it before. So and he goes, well,

749
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: how about you admiring how many games have you all done? None?

750
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: And he's like okay, thanks. He's like, all right, well

751
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: this will be fun. I was like, yeah, it's gonna

752
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. So I've got my I've

753
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: got my spotter, got Billy the stats guy. Uh, I listen,

754
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: tom Hart sent me you know you're talking about Tom

755
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: Leech's card. Yes, tom Hart sent me his card he

756
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: had for West he did Western Kentucky LSU. Oh nice,

757
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: So I have Tom Hart's Western Kentucky card. Oh my goodness.

758
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: That's a lot of work. Yeah. Now, apparently this is

759
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: why it's good to work for ESPN. They got a

760
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: guy who'll do that for you. You just said, I'm

761
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: supposed to call and say what information I want, But

762
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: the answer is I don't know. So I'm gonna say,

763
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 2: give me the tom Hart feature. Whatever it is. Tom

764
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: Hart wants give me that, but they will make it

765
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: for you a huge So that's kind of cool. I

766
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 2: didn't know that that's what you get with doing ESPN.

767
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: And I also learned We're not the only show that's

768
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: being asked. There's three other shows doing the same thing.

769
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: So Freddie and Harry and The Morning Show and one

770
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: of the others I think are doing so like, we're

771
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: not gonna be the only ones, but we probably have

772
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: the least experience. And I put Billy in. Billy better

773
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: not let me down, okay, because there was some skepticism.

774
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: They're like, would you like a stats person? I was like, no,

775
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: I want Billy.

776
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: So that's nice. Billy's a Western take a hilltop or alum.

777
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: Gonna take him down for the game. He'll be all

778
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 3: over the wed.

779
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: He's gotta be like, Billy has to be prepared. I'm

780
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: putting a lot into Billy here. Because they kind of

781
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: suggested I needed two people that knew what they were

782
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: talking about. I said, I need one person and a

783
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: Billy and a spotter.

784
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: Long was the conversation with the spoder, like, what do

785
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 4: you even talk about?

786
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 2: Had nothing to say?

787
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: What's your vision?

788
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: He goes? He goes, what do you look for in

789
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: a spotter? And I was like, spot you.

790
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: You check the.

791
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: Kind of thing that you do.

792
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: Somebody answers their phone when I call.

793
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: Apparently Tom Hart. So then I called Tom Hart and

794
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: asked for advice. Tom said, the super Dome where this

795
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: game is is quote the hardest place to see in

796
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: college football. Oh my, he says, you're higher up there

797
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 2: than you are anywhere else, which we remember when Kentucky

798
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: played in the National Championship there.

799
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: It's way I wrote on our blog three by drawn lamb,

800
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: and someone corrected me. He said that was Kyle Wilder.

801
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I just see specs down there.

802
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want for me up there.

803
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: He goes, so you need to bring your own binoculars,

804
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: so I might have to go buy some binoculars because

805
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: I don't think I have any binoculars. And he said,

806
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: Billy's gonna need his own binoculars toob so just bring

807
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 2: your own binoculars. But I'm getting excited. I'm tonight going

808
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: to watch start watching my first Southern Miss.

809
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so uh, she can bring us a

810
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: little scattering report tomorrow and no, no, no.

811
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna take some time, but I've got Wednesday Night

812
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: Southern Miss tape beginning.

813
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 4: We'll give you a few days, but we might just

814
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: have to rattle off some questions on the spot, just

815
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 4: to test you. You could be mid conversation about Kentucky Indiana,

816
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 4: we might ask you about the left tackle.

817
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: I talked to Myron too, and I'm like, all right, Myron. Uh.

818
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: They we were laughing about pronunciations. He goes, I don't

819
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: want us to get canceled. Let me do the pronunce.

820
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: And I went fair enough, that's a good point.

821
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 4: One last thing off your plate.

822
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: Well, he's obviously done games as a sideline reporter. Has

823
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: he done color before?

824
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: He has not. He's done play by play a couple

825
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: of times. That's not what there. He's never done football.

826
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: He's only done basketball. Okay, so this is this is

827
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: going completely completely new. Who's next, Shannon, Let's go to Adam. Adam,

828
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: go ahead at him.

829
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 4: Hey, what's up, guys.

830
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 6: I've hated this day of my deal from the very beginning,

831
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 6: and and here, while being a former Learfield IMG employee,

832
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 6: I know what they're all about. You know, at the

833
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 6: end of the day, everybody kept saying they're bringing it

834
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 6: in house. It's not in house, Jama, that's a third

835
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 6: party entity.

836
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.

837
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 6: AMI is located in San Diego, California, now Lexison, Kentucky,

838
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 6: and at the end of the day, they are looking

839
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 6: out for JMI, not the University of Kentucky. That's what

840
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 6: this was doomed to fail from the beginning.

841
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: I think that's not an invalid point. I appreciate the call.

842
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: So like, if you're a college, yeah, you want to

843
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: make money, but you also want to win games. Right,

844
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: It's obviously going to be better for JMI if we

845
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: win games because they have a better chance of making money,

846
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: but they still have a number one obligation to make money.

847
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 2: And you know, I've gone to JMI over the years

848
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: and said you should work with us, like we can

849
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: help you. I can make your postgame show better, and

850
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: they don't. They're just like, hey, we're good. And I

851
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: worry if the eh, we're good. If you do that

852
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: in recruiting, I don't know if that works in twenty

853
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: twenty six, Ryan, Eh we're good. So in a world

854
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: where the number one quarterback in America flips from Georgia

855
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: to Vanya, I don't know if EH, We're good works.

856
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 3: So what happens when a coach goes to them and says,

857
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:31,479
Speaker 3: we need more money to get this kid and Jami says, no, can.

858
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: Talk about that tomorrow. Oh okay, I'm just saying, okay,

859
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: we'll talk about tomorrow.

860
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 4: Not even if what if the kid wants more money?

861
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: What if he has an opportunity to go get money

862
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: from another dealership or another well, what.

863
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: If a school says to you, just theoretically, a school

864
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: says to you, I'll give you X. Kentucky says, I'll

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Speaker 2: give you the same, but the other school says, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna let you go try to find your own money

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Speaker 2: as well, And Kentucky says, you can't do that.

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Speaker 3: He's going to the other school.

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Speaker 2: He's going to go to the other school, and he

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Speaker 2: should and he should, And that theoretically would be the

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Speaker 2: kind of thing you would worry about, Darius Miller when

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Speaker 2: we return right after this KSR