1 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is Laugh with Me at podcast with 2 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Jerey Ode. I'm your O, j O. And this is 3 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: a very special rewind edition of Laugh with Me the Podcast. 4 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: This is where we take some of our greatest moments 5 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: and we bring it. We bring it back. We want 6 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: to put it front and center. Maybe you missed it, Uh, 7 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: maybe you missed out on our major announcement that we 8 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: put out there on our socials this week, which is 9 00:00:52,200 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: we are joining iHeartRadio. So that being said, Johnny, we're 10 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: gonna have a whole new audience listening to us. So 11 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna put We're gonna put out in front of 12 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: the people some things that you catch you up on. 13 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: What is exactly laugh with Me. Let's start with the 14 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: man behind the ones and twos that is Johnny Palermo. 15 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Are esteemed producer, not a joke. He's very good at 16 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: what he does. He's been with us from the get 17 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: and then the man behind the mic himself, that's me. 18 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm j O and Uh. We've been doing this for 19 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: a few years now. You can find us at the 20 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: tippy top of the iTunes comedy show podcast charts, but 21 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: you're here on iHeartRadio listening listening to the pod, and uh, 22 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: maybe you missed out that we had a very special 23 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: guest call us this past July from prison, the Tiger 24 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: King himself, Joe Exag. He called in just to kind 25 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: of update us on where he's at with his part 26 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: in which from all accounts shows, it disappears that there's 27 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: been no ground made on this. It does not appear 28 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: outside of the President has mentioned his name. We have 29 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: heard that he knows of the attempts for the pardon. 30 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: We do know this, and we know that there are 31 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people and you'll hear about it in 32 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: the phone call, but there are some people in Washington 33 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: that have his back that are trying to get his 34 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: name in front of the President, and it does appear 35 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: that has happened, but pardon, full clemency, nothing like that 36 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: has happened quite yet. So he is still in prison 37 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: and actually quite ill, but he's working on a lot 38 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: of projects. And he gave us all the time that 39 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: he had, which I think, if I remember correctly, it 40 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: was thirteen fifteen minutes something like that that he was 41 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: able to make a phone call. So we are gonna 42 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: hear the full interview there with Joe Exotic you remember 43 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: him from The Tiger King the Smash Show on Netflix 44 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty. And then just a few days later 45 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: on the Friday Happy Hour, my brother Kyle, he called 46 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: in to laugh with Me and we broke it all down. 47 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: We discussed the interview and gave some thoughts as well. 48 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: So you're gonna hear it all in one episode here 49 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: and again. This is a special rewind. This is specifically 50 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: for you iHeart Okay. This one is for all of 51 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: you new iHeart radio listeners that maybe aren't as familiar 52 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: with Laugh with Me. We're coming, I mean, we we're coming, okay, 53 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: and we've got the Tiger King with us. Fuck Carol Basket, 54 00:03:53,440 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know Johnny with how further Ado? Here 55 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: is the Tiger Key calling in from prison, Joe Exotic. 56 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Here we go. Hello. 57 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: This call will be recorded and subject to monitoring at 58 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: any time. To accept this call, press five to block 59 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: this call, and all you may begin speaking now hear me? 60 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: Hello, Joe? 61 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: Hey, what's up? 62 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: Hey? 63 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: How are you doing? 64 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: Sir? Man? 65 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate your time and coming on Laugh with Me today. 66 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate you having men. Yeah. 67 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: I just saw on your Instagram today's day two thousand 68 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: and five hundred and three of being wrongly imprisoned. Today 69 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: I just saw on Instagram today's two thousand and five 70 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: hundred and three of you being wrongly imprisoned. Oh there, yeah, 71 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: that's U days. That's crazy. I know you're you're working 72 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: on the part in and getting that just kind of 73 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: out there and hopefully in front of the president. Like 74 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: where are we at on that? 75 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's it's hard to tell because you know, 76 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: everybody thought it was going to happen in twenty twenty 77 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 4: and it didn't. So who knows what he's going to 78 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 4: do when he's going to do it. But last I 79 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: heard it was about a week ago. Left. I heard 80 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: it was supposed to happen sometime in the next three 81 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: to five weeks. But who knows. 82 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: Wow, So what's that process like? Is that something like paperwork? 83 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: You file and then you just you don't get updates. 84 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: You just kind of hope and wait. 85 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: Let's see, I had I had a pardon application filed 86 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 4: in his first term. And see, every time a president 87 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: leaves office, they deny them all, okay, So then I 88 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: had to file one for Biden and then on January 89 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: the twentieth the day year that one got denied, so 90 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 4: I had to file it again. So now I've got 91 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: another one in the US parton the Attorney's office, and uh, 92 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 4: it's it's just a matter of who he picks and chooses. Wow. 93 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: So then do you have like some champions in Washington, 94 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: like anybody who's a fan of yours? And then is 95 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: maybe you know, I have. 96 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: A Congresswoman Lauren Bobert that's out there stomping the pavement 97 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: for me. And I've got Congressman Eric Burwison, Joe Rogan, 98 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: Bayla White, Matt Gates, I've got, I've got, I got 99 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: some of the biggest names there is, you know, out 100 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: there shooting for this. But you know, you know how 101 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 4: Trump is. He'll do what he wants when he wants. 102 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, But you've got his favorites. I mean, you've 103 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: got the folks that's got his ear. 104 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and and the people that I have been you know, 105 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 4: telling me that it's coming our direct friends of Donald juniors. 106 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, I don't know if you remember the 107 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: movie Beatle Juice, but I know Lauren Bolbert's a big 108 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: fan of Beetlejuice. Oh yeah, yeah, you'll have to if 109 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: you ever get an opportunity to talk to her, ask 110 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: about beatle juice. Okay, Uh, do you think it's possible 111 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: that Trump knows about this and that he's just waiting 112 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: to use this as like a distraction and it's going 113 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: to help you, but it's gonna be used to distract 114 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: from something else. 115 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: Well, I know for a fact he knows about this 116 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: because he was confronted by Steve Steve Nelson from the 117 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: New York Post during a live White House briefing. So 118 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: Trump instead in my name and and then TMZ called 119 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: out Alice Johnson the other day on RULD television about 120 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: whether or not she's gonna recommend my pardon. So they 121 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 4: know me, they know who I am. Yeah, you know 122 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 4: that's what everybody says. He'll use it when he needs 123 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: to use it, you know, but right now, his best 124 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: opportunity to use it would be now to kind of 125 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: distract a little bit away from the Epstein stuff. 126 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he could use the distraction for sure. 127 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know, you know, when you when you 128 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: got Dan Bongino upset with you and Ash Patail upset 129 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: with you, that's telling the world that you're hiding something. 130 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: Hey, let's get you on the record right now that 131 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: you are not on the Epstein list. 132 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: Now, I don't even know. I didn't even know who 133 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: Epstein was until all of this hit the news. Well, 134 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 4: now whether or not Jeff Lowe is on the Epstein list, 135 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: and that could that could be possible, that could. 136 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: Be possible that that'd be what put him down for good. Yeah, well, 137 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: it'd be hard for Trump now to know who you were. 138 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: I mean. 139 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, Tiger King came out of Netflix. Thirty 140 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: four million people watched it in its first ten days 141 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: of release. Right you, unfortunately were in prison for all 142 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: of it. What do you even have a grasp of 143 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: like your stamp on pop culture? No, not at all, man. 144 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. The only the only thing that that I'm saying 145 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: out in the world is when I came back from 146 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 4: from North Carolina doing uh cancer treatment. They flew me 147 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 4: to Oklahoma City. 148 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: And then they this call was from a federal prison. 149 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 4: They drove me in an unmarked police car, uh you know, 150 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 4: down to Fort Worth and I was sitting in the 151 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 4: back seat, you know, and they were they didn't handcuff 152 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: me or anything, and I was just sitting on the 153 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: back feet of this this white car, and one out 154 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 4: of three cars that passed and slowed down and took 155 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 4: pictures way bright and it didn't matter if they were 156 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: eighteen or eighty. Uh. It was crazy how people recognize. 157 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: So I was sitting in the vacseat of a car. 158 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: What So it's going to be kind of if I'm 159 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: making out of here alive, it's going to be kind 160 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 4: of crazy because you know, I've never been prepared for 161 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 4: this kind of notoriety. 162 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Well no, and it's hard to even accliment yourself back 163 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: into society anyways, and you're going to come out of 164 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: out of it one of the most popular people in America, 165 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: you know. 166 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: You know, though, I wish President Trump would understand the 167 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: fact that when I, you know, before I this all happened, 168 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: you know, my my big thing was fixing little kids 169 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: faces with operations smile. That was that was my favorite fundraiser. Wow, 170 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: and fading the homeless, Okay, And I just wish he 171 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: would understand that. If he would, he would be honorable 172 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 4: enough to just let me go home the platform that 173 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: I do have out there, the amazing things I could 174 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: do to fix more little kids' faces and take care 175 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 4: of more homeless people would be phenomenal. 176 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you'll have the opportunity to do ten x 177 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: one hundred x times better, you know, good than what 178 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: you have before. 179 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 180 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: So, now you've been in your your ultra popular in America, 181 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: do you get like offers? I mean, is there been 182 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: movie offers? I mean, I guess there's got to be 183 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: people wanting to tell your story even further. 184 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 4: Well, I have I have three good movie offers on 185 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: the table now, but nobody wants to do anything. And 186 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: left him out. Okay, you know because because Tiger King 187 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 4: was filmed while I was in prison. Okay, I didn't 188 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: film for Tiger King, all right. They took all of 189 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 4: my footage that I was filming for my reality show 190 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 4: and used it without me knowing it. I never saw 191 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: Tiger King until about six months ago. 192 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: Holy cow. So wow, I guess I didn't realize that 193 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: all that was after you'd already been put in prison. 194 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: I thought, Yeah, I was arrested in September seventh of 195 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen, and they filmed that through eighteen nineteen and 196 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: early twenty. 197 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: So all those interviews and all the testimonials from your 198 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: staff and your family and friends, that was all after 199 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: you were already put in prison. 200 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: That was all after I was already putting in prison, 201 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: and the producer Eric Good of Tiger King paid. We 202 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: have videos of him now paying them very large sums 203 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: to cash to talk shit about me and make that show. 204 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, holy cow, so you were It's. 205 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 4: Pretty sad I didn't get a dime from Tiger Yeah. 206 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say you didn't get paid at all? 207 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: Then? No? 208 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 4: None. 209 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: So do you own the name Tiger King? 210 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: Then I do own in the trademark, But it takes 211 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: money to hire lawyers to sue anybody. You know what 212 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying right, That's why everybody, everybody on the internet 213 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: is selling Joe exotic stuff and there a damn thing 214 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: I can do because I'm broke. 215 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: Oh man, what about the music? I mean you your 216 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: music came out before prison. Have you were you able to? 217 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: I guess I'm sure more people were streaming your music. 218 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: I do get some royalties from my music now. But 219 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: see what happened while I was in prison is instead 220 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: of Tiger King, the people on Netflix doing the right 221 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: thing and working with me to do everything, they've done 222 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 4: everything the cheap way, and they got some clown out 223 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 4: there named Vince Johnson to claim that the music was his, 224 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 4: so they paid him, and then it took me three 225 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: years to sue him. I just got done last March 226 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 4: in Florida, suing him because I finally found a lawyer 227 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 4: that would do it pro bono and I took him 228 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: to court and won a judgment. You know. So now 229 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: I've got a court order proven that the music is mine. 230 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: But you still have to soon Netflich. You have to 231 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 4: see the producers and health. BBC even has copyrighted some 232 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: of my music. Everybody, everybody has taken advantage of Joe 233 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: being in a in prison and not being able to. 234 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Fight for myself once you're out. 235 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: Oh you bet, you bet, you bet? Yeah, yeah, I'm 236 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 4: going to keep some lawyers fully. 237 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: Employed, so they were the past. 238 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: It's from a federal prison. 239 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: Over the past six years or so, have you been 240 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: writing new music? 241 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: Like? 242 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: Is that on your radar? 243 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: Two? I you know I have. I kind of had 244 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: a bad mind blocked there for a while. Yeah, uh 245 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: that you know, I've got married and you know, he 246 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: got out of prison and he got deported to Mexico. So, uh, 247 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: my music writing capabilities have came back, you know, politicip 248 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: RACI anxiety, I guess, yeah, but I've I have wrote 249 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: some uh and you know, and I'm not gonna lie 250 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: see anybody. Uh my people, my my girls out in 251 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: the world. I send them the songs and then I 252 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: guess there's a very awesome music AI program out there, 253 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: yep that has put the words in the sound to 254 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: it until I get out so I can sing of myself. 255 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,239 Speaker 4: But yeah, they're they're apparently all on iTunes. 256 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: The uh AI abilities right now are insane. 257 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 4: Like it's pretty scary. 258 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: It's very scary. 259 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: TV that they've showed on TV of what people are 260 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: making Trump too, pretty crazy. 261 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: Uh have you performed at all, like for your for 262 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: your fellow inmates or the guards or anything. No, no, no, yeah, 263 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't blame you. So you remarried and you said 264 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: he got out and then was was he immediately deported? 265 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 4: He was? He got out on May the seventeenth. He 266 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: was supposed to have a detention hearing on the nineteenth, 267 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 4: and the US government picked him up on the seventeenth, 268 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: and they dumped him in Mexico on the eighteenth, and 269 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: he didn't even get a good to his hearing. 270 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: Holy cow, man, Well, you're you're certainly one of like 271 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: the rare people that have ever found love like that 272 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: in prison. 273 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 4: I would have to imagine, you know, it's it happens. 274 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: You know, you can't pick when, where and who and 275 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: why when it happens. But he's amazing, and I can't 276 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: wait to get out. I intend on going to Mexico. 277 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: And you know, just like I've I've had in the 278 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: press several times. Trump, let me out of here so 279 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 4: I can go to work and buy one of your 280 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: five million dollar gold cards so I can bring him 281 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: back to America. 282 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: Your fellow castmate on Tiger Tiger King, Doc Annial, he 283 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: was just sentenced to a year in prison. 284 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 4: It's pretty pretty crazy, is it. 285 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: Would you call that karma? It's just kind of a 286 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: matter of time for him? 287 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 4: Well, I would, I would call it. I mean, not 288 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: not as much karma as you know. Uh. I'm ashamed 289 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 4: of the government of you know, because he muggled and 290 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: trafficked human beings, okay, in order to pay for those 291 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 4: expensive animals to make a living and live like he lives. 292 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: And and that just goes to show you that the 293 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 4: United States government, they want to bitch about all the 294 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 4: illegal immigrants in here and the trafficking and everything, but 295 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 4: they just showed an example of a man that was 296 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: smuggling human beings to profit for himself. Only got a 297 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: year and Joey exonicas in here for twenty one. Right, okay, 298 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 4: so so go figure that out. 299 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: Oh so before, long long before, years and years ago, 300 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: when you were taking your zoo on the road for 301 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: like petting zoos and showcases and whatnot, Right, did you 302 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: ever come through Nebraska? 303 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 4: I did many times, many times. We did some shows 304 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: in North Platte, Uh, Nebraska. God, yeah, we did a 305 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 4: lot in Nebraska. 306 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I live in Omaha, Nebraska. 307 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 308 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: And I was just very curious. I thought that would 309 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: have been a pretty cool show, if you know, if 310 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: that ever came through. 311 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: But you know, I did. I did my magic show 312 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: on the road in front of probably a total of 313 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: four or five million people. And uh and I still 314 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 4: get letters from people that weren't I show eighteen twenty 315 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 4: years ago that were little kids that are growing to 316 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: hand their own family. Now, Hey, Jeremy, this thing is 317 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 4: gonna hang out any second, because it just beats. I 318 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 4: want to thank you so much for having me kill 319 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 4: everybody to get on joey'soniccofficial dot com. Look at the evidence, 320 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: do some shopping. Help me out because the lawyer bills 321 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 4: are stacking up. But Hill, somebody out there. I send 322 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 4: my love, George sends his love, and. 323 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: There we go, Joe exotic. 324 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: That was fun. 325 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: He seems like he's in good spirits. Honestly, doesn't he 326 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: sound like he was in good spirits? 327 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: Johnny? 328 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he sounded like a guy that he obviously 329 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: has been long enough. He kind of gets the deal. 330 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: He's acclimated. But he's fighting, you know, he's fighting. It's 331 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: crazy to me that he was talking about he has 332 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: no idea just how popular he is. I mean, it's 333 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, I've had family. You know, they're inside, they 334 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: come out and it's you know, it's different. You gotta 335 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: get used to being around people again, being able to 336 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: just kind of move around. Oh, that would be so hard. 337 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: And then he's gonna have the whole world wanting to 338 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: talk to him, you know. And he's a showman, right, 339 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: he was a showman for many, many years, even before 340 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: any of any of this. Right, he's used to that, 341 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: He's used to talking in front of people. And being 342 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: on stage and being the center of attention. But it's 343 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: been so long and so secluded for so long. I 344 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: did want to ask him about his health. I mean, 345 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: he did mention that he was in for cancer treatment 346 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Yeah, I know, that's one of his 347 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: biggest fears. I've read in press clippings that one of 348 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: his biggest fears he's gonna die in prison before his 349 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: sentence ends. And he just wants to do good out 350 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: in the world. Man, Joe Exotic, that was exciting. We 351 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: had the Tiger King here on laugh with me, Johnny, 352 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: good job. I just want to tell you publicly, you 353 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: did good, buddy. But yeah, you heard him. You can go. 354 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: You can find his instagram, Joe Underscore Exotic, all kinds 355 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: of stuff on there, and then Joe Exotic Official dot com. 356 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like that's the website, so let's actually let me, 357 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: let's Johnny, let's pull that up so that we know 358 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: we got it right and Joe, Yeah, Joe Exotic Official 359 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: dot com and uh, you can know exactly what's going 360 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: on with the case. It looks very updated. It looks 361 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: like we're getting new FBI information on there. Any and 362 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: basically anything you would need to know about Joe. Oh, well, wow, 363 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: we got we can shop all kinds of stuff here 364 00:21:54,240 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: to help him out. Boy, the Joe Exotic underwear, that 365 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: might be what I what I get. I want to 366 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: help my guy out, Joe. If you listen to the episode, 367 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the show, and 368 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: you're welcome back anytime before or after you get out. 369 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: This is exciting, Johnny, Johnny, Joe Exotic, do not go anywhere. 370 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: We're not going anywhere. Okay, we might be done with 371 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: the Tiger King, but we're gonna break it all down. 372 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: Kyle's about to call in and discuss all things Joe Exotic. 373 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Johnny. We have solved all of your 374 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: holiday shopping stress your needs because the holidays will sneak 375 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: up fast, but it's not too early to get your 376 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: shopping done and actually have fun with it. 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That's 412 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: uncommon Goods dot com. Slash laugh with me for fifteen 413 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: percent off. Said on this limited time offer Uncommon Goods, 414 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: we are all out of the ordinary. Johnny, if you 415 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: haven't told everybody this is how you're doing your holiday shopping, 416 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: you really missed the boat. I mean, that's what I 417 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: that's why I told my family. First first thing, I 418 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: first thing, if you remember, like, because I know you've 419 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: listened to the episode, and I thought, and I just 420 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: saw it literally seconds before he called. I saw on 421 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: his Instagram it said day two thousand, five hundred and 422 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: three of being wrongly imprisoned, and I thought, okay, well 423 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: this is it's on his Instagram. I don't think he's 424 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: running the Instagram, like I don't you know, I and 425 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: I he kind of made that clear because he had 426 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: no idea what I was talking about. But it is 427 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: clearly but it is his official Instagram, And I thought, 428 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: what a way to kick off the conversation with You've 429 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: been in prison for two thousand and five hundred three days. 430 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: In hindsight, that sucks, right, Like why if you're. 431 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: Wants to hear that, thanks for reminding me. 432 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: If you've been in prison for twenty five hundred days, 433 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: you probably don't want to be reminded of just how 434 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: long you've been in there. 435 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 5: No, He's like, yeah, and it's been awful everything on 436 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 5: one of them. 437 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: Thanks Jeremy Glad. I called you. 438 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: I know, I felt so bad. I instantly was like, 439 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: that was a mistake, little way to kick this off. 440 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 5: I got the vibes that he didn't even know what 441 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 5: Instagram was. He was like, oh, that what they put 442 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 5: up there. 443 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: Yep, all right, well I guess I've been in here. 444 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: I don't know it till you. 445 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: That's fair because he was picked up in twenty eighteen, 446 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: and who knows. I mean, I'm sure he didn't even 447 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 1: have an Instagram then, so, you know, he obviously was 448 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: on top of some things online because he had an 449 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: online TV show, you know. 450 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 5: He did, he was on the internet, but his choice 451 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 5: hold on his own thing. Yeah maybe all right, So remember, no, 452 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 5: I never heard this guy until Netflix. 453 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I know so and me too, like I've and 454 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: much like probably most of the people in the world 455 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: had never heard this guy until twenty twenty when the 456 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: Netflix show came out, but it locally, you know, in 457 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: his like in his world, he had his online show 458 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: where he would read Carol Baskin's diary and and update 459 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: people on what they kind of documented a little bit 460 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: of that. 461 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: Back. 462 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's he wasn't unfamiliar with the Internet, and 463 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: he wasn't unfamiliar with like memes and and things in 464 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: that you know sense. But he probably has no I mean, 465 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: he even said he has no clue how big he is. 466 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: But he has no clue the like the world of 467 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: social media today and just kind of how it wraps 468 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: are our world. 469 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, no idea, but here's the deal. 470 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 5: So he made a big impact, right that was the 471 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 5: whole thing. Whole world's talking about it. Yeah, but now 472 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 5: it's gone. 473 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: Right, But he's like, okay, listen to him. 474 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, when I get out of here, I'm 475 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 5: gonna buy one of them. Okay, let me back up. 476 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 5: He's like, I got no money to see these people. 477 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 5: I got no money to do any of this, right right. 478 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 5: And then he's like, when I get out. 479 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: I'm buying one of them Trump. 480 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 5: Five million dollar gold cards so I can move my 481 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 5: husband to America. It's like, homie, you have five dollars, Like, 482 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 5: where are you getting this five million dollars? 483 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? 484 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: So that goes back to like I was telling him, 485 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, dude, thirty four million people watched 486 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: The Tiger King on Netflix in the first ten days 487 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: of release, and they had a season two. How many 488 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: documentaries do you know get a season two and a 489 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: season three? 490 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: So on there's a season three. 491 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not really about him, it's about it's about 492 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: that guy doc Annel that that just got sentenced to 493 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: a year in prison for animal trafficking and he's in 494 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, the first two seasons. But it's more about 495 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: like his world. But still the brand itself. Oh yeah, 496 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: he hates all those people. But but yeah, like I 497 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: think he's banking on I get out of prison. I 498 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: have incredible value to my name, or at least he 499 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: believes he does, to the point that he can sell, 500 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, certain rights to stories. Or he says he's 501 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: got three awesome movie deals right now on the table, 502 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: but he needs to be out in order to make 503 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: this deal work. 504 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's not out. So he's been in there 505 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: for how long do we say. 506 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: So he's been in the years? Yeah, more than that. 507 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: He's been in since twenty eighteen. He's on a twenty 508 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: one year sentence. 509 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 5: How far back is twenty five hundred days? Okay, so 510 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 5: twenty eighteen. So you got a while, guy, like, what 511 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 5: do you Who's this is wild? He's gonna, yeah, We're 512 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: gonna make a movie when I'm eighty. 513 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Well, playing is kind of a whack. 514 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: That's if you're basing it on. He's gonna service twenty 515 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: one years. 516 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: Now. 517 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. We've got the pardon situation on the table, 518 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: where he feels that he was wrongly accused, that there's 519 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: a lot of evidence out there now where the witnesses 520 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: are backtracking the things that they said in Core or 521 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: on the record, and that the president is going to 522 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: give him a full pardon and he's gonna be out. 523 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, first of all, that was one of my 524 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 5: favorite parts of the thing. 525 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: I feel like. 526 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 5: He here's the deal. 527 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: He thinks that he's innocent. 528 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 5: Like, if you watched that thing, you know his feelings 529 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 5: on Caroll Basket. 530 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: He straight up is hiring folks to kill her. 531 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, Sayaly, He's like, he's like, yeah, I'm gonna get pardoned. 532 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 5: Proceeds to name off the worst folks in the world 533 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 5: and he's like, yeah, they're. 534 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 2: Gonna get me out of here. It's like, dude, you 535 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: are what is happening right now? What is happening? 536 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: He does have like the ear of the Core people 537 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: that you would think of when you when you think maga, 538 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, do. 539 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: You think that's real though? Do you think like people 540 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: are actually like those people? Do you think they're like, 541 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: we got to get the tiger king out. That's just 542 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: what this comes down to. 543 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: Well, it's tough. Who knows who knows how like active 544 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: they actually are in you know, you only get the 545 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: president's ear for what seconds probably if you do, you know, yeah, 546 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: and then is Joe Exotic the name that comes up 547 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: when you do have his ear, But they definitely get 548 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: asked about it, Like you can find press clippings of 549 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, the press asking these very people about Joe Exotic, 550 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: and they are certainly aware of what's going on, but 551 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that they're actually actively you know, working 552 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: on the behalf of the Tiger King to get him 553 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: a pardon. 554 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: No, and are they asking that in the year of 555 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 5: our Lord twenty twenty five, right, maybe twenty twenty maybe 556 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one. 557 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 558 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: Did you catch my beeal juice joke? 559 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: Okay? 560 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 5: I was like lost on the bild, like I don't 561 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 5: know anything about it. Okay, you were like, you're like, 562 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 5: she really likes beal juice, and he did. It was 563 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 5: now he was like, okay, I get paid. 564 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: I did not think he would get the joke, so 565 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessary. It wasn't for him. It was for 566 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: the audience. But so Lauren Bobert she a couple of 567 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: years ago, she was on a first date and she 568 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: went to see Beetlejuice the musical, and she may or 569 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: may not have been caught doing something inappropriate to her 570 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: first date while she was watching the show. 571 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: Now that's awesome. 572 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, all right, now knowing that and now he's 573 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 5: just like, Okay, that's hilarious. 574 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah so man, that's uh yeah, So that's I never 575 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: thought he would get it because you know, he's probably 576 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: the amount of information he gets, I mean it's very minimal, right, 577 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: I would think. 578 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 5: So, I don't know, we got to do an investigative. 579 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: How do they get? 580 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 5: How much TV can they watch to day? How can 581 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 5: they how much can they read? What's going on in there? 582 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I mean, he wrote his book. 583 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: He has a book. I didn't talk about the book 584 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: on the pod, but he does have a book out, 585 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: and what do you do? 586 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 4: Well? 587 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: I just I knew I had limited time. So that's 588 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: the other thing. I didn't know how much time I 589 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: was going to have with him. I just knew I 590 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: had until they cut us off. So it ended up 591 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: being fifteen minutes. I didn't know I had fifteen minutes. 592 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: I thought I could have seven, I could have eight, Like, 593 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know, right, I just knew it wasn't going 594 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: to be a lot. So I had a list of questions. 595 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to get to his and as I could, 596 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask follow ups where appropriate, But I 597 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: also knew I had limited time, so the music, to 598 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: me was more important to talk about than the book. 599 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you turned to the music. What's that all about? 600 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: Have you you? His music is a big part of 601 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: the of the documentary Tiger King. Yeah, So I was 602 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: just so interested of is he writing more music? Is 603 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: this something he wants to do outside when he gets out? 604 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: Is this something he performs inside for his for I 605 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: almost said classmates, for his for his inmates, like for 606 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: maybe for the prisoners, Like is this something he's doing 607 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: and he's entertaining the masses inside? I mean it sounds 608 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,959 Speaker 1: like that is a hard no, but oh no, oh no, Yeah, 609 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: I just I was intrigued by it because I just 610 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: imagine sometimes, all right, it goes back to Seinfeld and 611 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: the finale, the Seinfeld finale where they end up in prison, 612 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: and then the very like the very last scene, Jerry's 613 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: doing stand up, you know, for that's fair for the population, 614 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, do entertainers do that? Like is 615 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: r Kelly performing you know, like in prison? And they're 616 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: just like I can't wait for this week's our Kelly concert. 617 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: You know, like, I don't know. 618 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: We just found out that's a definite no. 619 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 5: And you did you hear his answer that you're like, 620 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 5: you're writing new music. And then he goes on this 621 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 5: thing and then when he comes back, he's like, actually, 622 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 5: I'm writing it and send it off to my girls 623 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 5: out there and they just put it. 624 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: In the AI and it does the music and the vocals. 625 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 5: So like this dude's writing like three lines of words 626 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 5: and he's calling that writing music nowadays? 627 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: What's happening? I know? 628 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: AI just think of the kind of stuff he could 629 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: get out there right now if he was out and 630 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: he had AI to do a lot of that. 631 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's a scary thought. 632 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh he'd be a monster, that's for sure. 633 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: I want some Carol Baskin songs. We gotta get that gone. 634 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 2: I'm ready if the world is ready. 635 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: I think if I hit the hell kit chip part 636 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: like all right. So I asked him about Doc Annel 637 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: and he was very open about how that guy's getting 638 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: what he deserves to an extent. He's only got one years. 639 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: He's like almost jealous of it, you know, he only 640 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: got one year, whereas Joe Exotics in there for twenty one. 641 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: But like, it does seem like the people around him 642 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: that were in that documentary Tiger King, they were all 643 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: involved in something. Yeah, and they're all starting to now 644 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: it's just all kind of catching up to him in 645 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: one way or another. Man, I'm interested to know of 646 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: Carole Baskin, who seems like the cleanest of the bunch, 647 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: but there's all that rumor and innu window that she 648 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: killed her ex husband, So who knows. 649 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 2: She definitely killed her husband. She's definitely a terrible person. 650 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: Here's the deal. 651 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 5: When you're dealing with folks who own actual tigers, everything 652 00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 5: is sketch. 653 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 2: No part of their life is all sketch. 654 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so funny story. So I had, you know, 655 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing research for the for the interview, So I'm 656 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: watching Tiger King, right and uh, Branden he comes in 657 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: and he sees that there's like these people that just 658 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: have tigers, and he's like, holy cow, you can do that? 659 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: Is that the guy you're to talk to? Can we 660 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: get tigers? And I'm like, we are not getting tigers, 661 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: Like this is not a thing. Did you not catch 662 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: the part where he's calling from prison, Like this has 663 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: not happening, dude. 664 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 2: I love You're like, you guys are just having an interview. 665 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: He's like telling us stories whatever. It's like, this call 666 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 2: is that's my favorite. 667 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: I debated. I'm like, do I take that out? Like, 668 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: do I edit that out? Or is that kind of 669 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 1: like sets the tone for what is actually like because 670 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: there is a reality to this, Like he's you know, 671 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: he's a reality TV personality of sorts. Yeah, but but 672 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: there is reality to this. Where is the the consequences 673 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: of his actions that we saw unfold, you know in 674 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty with the Tiger King, are why he is 675 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: where he is right now? 676 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, that was great. That was great. 677 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 5: And you gotta understand, when you hire somebody to kill somebody, 678 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 5: you're going to jail. And not only are you going 679 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 5: to jail, you're gonna be in there and you're gonna 680 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 5: be somehow sad that somebody else got a lesser sentence. 681 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 5: You're just gonna completely ignore that you hired a human 682 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 5: to kill a human and be like, well, that guy 683 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 5: only got a year. 684 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: What is going on here? 685 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 4: Right? 686 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? And so and one of the guys, it's uh, 687 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: I forget his name, but he's in the documentary and 688 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: he's one of the people that worked for Joe at 689 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: the zoo. But it's that guy, you know that they 690 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: kind of chronicle like that he you know, allegedly paid 691 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: to go down to Florida wherever and try to kill Carol, right, yeah, 692 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: And one of his stances right now is that that 693 00:38:54,239 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: guy allegedly lied, you know, in his and his testimony 694 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. And that's some of the facts. But I 695 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: was when I was reading about the case, he also made, 696 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: uh pay, I don't know if he made payments or 697 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: offer to make payments to somebody to go do this 698 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: murder for hire to and undercover FBI like agents. So yeah, 699 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: what even if this guy, Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. 700 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know what more he has, and I 701 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: don't know what kind of lawyer like team he's got 702 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: because that's not cheap, right, So, well, he. 703 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 5: Has five dollars, so his lawyer team cannot be very good, 704 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 5: although they could be doing the game where like they're 705 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 5: actually great lawyers because they know at the end of 706 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 5: this thing, hopefully they'll get paid. 707 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: So you never know, you never know. But here's the deal. 708 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 5: It's really not fair that he's in there for twenty 709 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 5: one years because he's just fixing babies faces. So he 710 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 5: does that's just fixing babies faces. I don't know why 711 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 5: they're broken, but he's fixing them. 712 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: That's the part that a lot of people we are 713 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: forgetting is that he did do a lot of good, 714 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: and he did this way before any of the criminal things. 715 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 1: He was fixing babies faces, you know, helping families that 716 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: couldn't afford that kind of medical procedures. And then he 717 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: also fed the hungry quite often. 718 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 5: Set on Carroll Baskin, cut her up. 719 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: No, no, she's still alive. So that's the he probably 720 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: would do more of the good. You know, when he 721 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: gets out of prison. 722 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,479 Speaker 5: I would think he was just what are you gonna 723 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 5: do out of prison? 724 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 2: Fix more babies faces? 725 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, that's cool. 726 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: It's smart on his behalf, though, to just if that's 727 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: the question, you know, what are you gonna do to 728 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 1: get in prison and then instantly hit the the goodwill 729 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: things you did before, you know, like, that's that's fair. 730 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: I gotta get the job done. 731 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 2: That would have been awesome. That had been a great answer. 732 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: Actually he was, you know what I didn't know what 733 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: to expect. I didn't know he's been in there a 734 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: long time. At this point, I didn't know if we 735 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: were going to get a beaten down you know, he's sick. 736 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: You know he's in a special treatment facility for cancer 737 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: right now. So I didn't know what we'd get or 738 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,959 Speaker 1: if we get a guy that was hopeful energet egge 739 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 1: and just kind of felt like the day is coming 740 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: soon when when he's gonna get released. I was happy 741 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: I got the opportunity to ask him if he's on 742 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: the Epstein list. That was good. We got that out 743 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: of the way. 744 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: That was hilarious. I don't even know who is. 745 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: All he knows is that that name is in the 746 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: news and it's not good for Trump. That's all he knew. 747 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 2: It is not good, Sir. 748 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: Oh Man, What a what a day? 749 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:53,959 Speaker 4: Though? 750 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: He's man, it sucked because like the call just abruptly ends, 751 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: right yeah, and then I'm like, well, dang. I was 752 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: enjoying talking to him, like I need more time, Like 753 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: where'd you go? Like I just I was left wanting more. 754 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 5: Well, in fifteen years, you gotta sit an alarm. Fifteen 755 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 5: years from now, when he's out, you gotta be like, Joe, 756 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 5: you're my guy. We talked, let's talk for longer. 757 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: Yep, do this. 758 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: I did email him after and I was like, hey, man, 759 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: you need to call in and you want to go 760 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: back on laugh with me. You let me know you 761 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: are back. Like that was that I didn't get enough, 762 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: you know. 763 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 5: Exactly exactly. I like when you're like, you know, we 764 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 5: find out he's remarried or whatever, and it's like, that's incredible. 765 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 2: You fell in love in prison. 766 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: He's just like, yeah, it happens. You don't know where 767 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna we love's gonna hit you. 768 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, sir, we don't know what happens in there. We'll 769 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 2: tell us. I don't know. 770 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: I missed it that his his new husband was released 771 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: from pre in and then immediately deported. Like I must 772 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,319 Speaker 1: have missed that whole thing. So then I go back 773 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: after and I'm reading about it. Sure enough, it's he's 774 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: he's in Mexico and he's doing the work for Joe. 775 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: He's trying to get Joe pardon and get the word out. 776 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: And then and Joe I've even seen he's willing. He's 777 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 1: like Trump doesn't want bad people in America anymore. Great, 778 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: I'll buy my own ticket. I'm heading to Mexico. Like 779 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: he's ready to go. 780 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, pardon me, and I'm out. I'm out. 781 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's uh, he's. He's pretty honest about it, 782 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: that's for sure. 783 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: He is. He is. I liked it. I liked it. 784 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: It makes me want to check out his book. He's 785 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:45,919 Speaker 2: an interesting guy. 786 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah like that one. Oh so, what I was saying 787 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: about the book is, uh, he he wrote it while 788 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: he was in prison, and he used his thirty minutes 789 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: of computer time a day in order to write the books. 790 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: So it was quite the process. 791 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 792 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: But that's at least that's what you know, he said. 793 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: So he he has. Yeah, so he's got a book out. 794 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it other than he's got 795 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 1: a book and he used his thirty minutes a day 796 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: to write it. That's all I know. 797 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 2: That's that's the info you gathered this book. 798 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: All you know. That's all I know. But we should 799 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: learn more about it for when we have the follow 800 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: up interviewer years in fifteen years. 801 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I like it. I like it. Oh yeah, you 802 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 2: I need to know. 803 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 5: Did you not hit up Carole Baskins Instagram and just 804 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 5: shoot a message and be like, hey, I got this 805 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 5: podcast if you would like to come on. 806 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 1: You know what, that's a hell of an idea. That's 807 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: a hell of an idea. 808 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 2: That's what I bring to the table here. 809 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: I think I think I should have you know what, 810 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: And you know what's great about Carol? She's gonna have 811 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: more time. Oh yeah, and right, so yeah, you know what, 812 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: great idea, Kyle, I am going to hit up Carol 813 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: Baskin and uh now that's that's kind of my goal 814 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: is to care of. 815 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: Go away down here, you know, taking on the world. Yep, 816 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 2: one one Netflix star at a time. 817 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: That's right, that's awesome. Can you imagine thirty four million 818 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 1: people watching your watching your show, your life and like 819 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: the first ten days of a release about it, Like, 820 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: that's insane, that would be crazy. 821 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 2: I wouldn't I would crumble. 822 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 5: I would curl into a ball and never come out 823 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 5: of my house again. 824 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: Like how many hundreds of millions by now have seen 825 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: this story and everything they know about you is this? 826 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild. 827 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: It is wo it really is. 828 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 2: I can't even think like that. I can't even think 829 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 2: that big. That's crazy. Gosh, we gotta. 830 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: Get a Netflix show, we really do what what would 831 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: we call it? 832 00:45:54,040 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: We'll figure it out. Just to dudes, all right, it's 833 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: not about it. I don't know. 834 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: Two dudes. All they do is talk about the Tiger King. 835 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 5: All right, we'll come up with a better names. 836 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 2: I didn't realize. 837 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. It turns out they put a lot 838 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: of work in the TV shows like they don't just 839 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: come up with it on the fly during a podcast. 840 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 2: I thought it just kind of happened. I was I 841 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 2: was wrong. Today's the day I learned, folks, I got smarter. 842 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: Uh Joe exoticofficial dot com. If anyone listening wants to 843 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: find out more information about him or even to donate 844 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 1: because he's he's using the money that he raises from 845 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: the website to help with his own expenses inside and 846 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: then also to help with awareness to help get that pardon. 847 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 5: Cool? 848 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 2: Do you hate that book on there? 849 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 1: I think you can. 850 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 2: Can you get an autographed book on there? 851 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 4: Oh? 852 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: I highly doubt it. 853 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to smuggle it in sign us smuggle 854 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 2: it out. 855 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 1: It's the whole process. If you don't guy I don't know, 856 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 1: maybe maybe find a guy I don't know. There's always 857 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: that guy inside that could just get things. 858 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 2: This is true. 859 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a guy that can bring in books, get 860 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: them signed, get them out. 861 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 2: You know, I got we gotta find out about it. 862 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 2: We gotta figure out how to do this. If he's 863 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 2: not doing that. 864 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: Just sink how much money he can make if he 865 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: could actually figure that out. Because you're lawyer, like, you're 866 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: gonna buy the book, right, I'm probably gonna buy the book. 867 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: If that's the case, I gotta I gotta check it out. 868 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 2: We're all in now, all right. 869 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: Final thoughts on the Tiger King joke, zak on laugh 870 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: with me. 871 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 2: I freaking loved it. I did not know what to expect. 872 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 2: I think I told you. 873 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 5: I was very frightened when I first sawt load onto 874 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 5: my phone. 875 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 2: Yep, it was awesome. 876 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 5: I kind of want to go rewatch the Tiger King. 877 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 5: I want to see how that goes down. Gotta see 878 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 5: him get not pardoned, Gotta see him put in his time, 879 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 5: get out, go to Mexico, buy some sort of weird 880 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 5: gold card for money that he doesn't have, and then 881 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 5: get back. 882 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 2: I want to see how all that works out. I'm 883 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 2: invested now, I'm invested. 884 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: There you go. Joe's got a new fan in Kyle 885 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: all from his call in on laugh with me. I don't. 886 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. 887 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,359 Speaker 2: It's like a curiosity, okay, not a fan. 888 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: All right, that's fair, you know, I didn't. I don't 889 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: think I fully understood that the the video coverage was 890 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: from a mostly footage that he was having filmed that 891 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: Netflix purchased or the producer's purchased and then did the 892 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 1: interviews and testimonials at things after he's in prison. I 893 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: don't think I when I watched it, I understood all that, 894 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 1: and I don't think I grasped that even after. But 895 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: then when he's talking about it, we'll shoot and I 896 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 1: go back and watch, like the first couple of episodes, 897 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this is like a whole different spin 898 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: on it. Now knowing that all these people are talking 899 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: about him, knowing that he's in prison right now. 900 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I never thought about that either until he 901 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 5: said that. 902 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:03,959 Speaker 2: It's like what, so then you gotta think. 903 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 5: About who who did he put in charge of his estate, 904 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 5: and that person obviously signed something to. 905 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 2: Just release all his stuff. 906 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,479 Speaker 1: They sure did. 907 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 2: It's not good. It's a it's a big, crazy mess. 908 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Well, that's that's the South. That's the South, baby, 909 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, that's the South. 910 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 2: That's what we're doing in the sub Eric knows about that. 911 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: Eric, Yeah, he knows all about that. He's uh, he's 912 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: as far north as you can get right now though. 913 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: What Yeah, he's like vacationing in like North Dakota or something. 914 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: Oh damn. Yeah, that's tip of the tip of the 915 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 2: earth there. 916 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. So all right, well, thanks for calling in and 917 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 1: giving us your thoughts. 918 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for calling. Get more, get that Carroll basket. Yeah, 919 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 2: I'll do the recap. I'll do the recap. I'll answer 920 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: the phone. 921 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: It'll be great, awesome. I'll work on it right now. 922 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: Are seated later f