Speaker 1: My Grandma and your Grandma was written by the fire
Speaker 1: my grandma to your grandma. I'm gonna say, on fire,
Speaker 1: you're talking about him. I like go on dates, Jagomo Jam.
Speaker 1: Lost Culture is just calling hello, fool, Hello, fool. You
Speaker 1: foolishly but thankfully turned into another episode of Last Culture.
Speaker 1: Since you've turned in, Yes, you've turned in. Guys. We
Speaker 1: are classically back from another hiatus, but this time we
Speaker 1: have episodes. We're recording enough ahead of time to sort
Speaker 1: of you know, spread out throughout the weeks ahead. We
Speaker 1: took to Gmail and scheduled three dates. Okay, yes, three dates.
Speaker 1: We're gonna condense the recordings, but we're going to sprout
Speaker 1: the releases. But this is the thing, man, And I
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about this. What if by
Speaker 1: the time and episode comes out that's been really corded,
Speaker 1: pre you know, prerecorded, will that lose any sort of
Speaker 1: relevance unless we explicitly state in the episode this was
Speaker 1: recorded on this state you know what. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're actually okay. I feel like that it's not going
Speaker 1: to be too too far apart. I mean, I understand
Speaker 1: you're you're concerned to want to be as prescient. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like the culture we live in now, culture,
Speaker 1: it's rapidly changing. Exactly. If you think two days ago
Speaker 1: was a huge news day and now we feel I
Speaker 1: feel so far removed from it, you know what I'm saying. Yes, absolutely, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what on culture, so we keep it, We
Speaker 1: keep it, um a little bit time, so we keep it.
Speaker 1: But it's also timelessly. Every episode truly exists as its
Speaker 1: own um, as its own peace. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: that's what's so great about it. I think whenever I
Speaker 1: talk to somebody that's listening Lost Culture, so they say,
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this piece, someone says, um, someone said
Speaker 1: to me once that episode of Lost Culture Stas could
Speaker 1: have been recorded in Yeah, exactly. Guys. Oh, we have
Speaker 1: such an incredible guest with us today. Really I think, um,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm biased, but my favorite guest. Oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: you might be biased, but I might be biased in
Speaker 1: saying he's one of the one of my favorite people
Speaker 1: in my life. Absolutely, I would agree. Yes. And the credits. Oh,
Speaker 1: come on first, let us say a little night music
Speaker 1: at u c B East is coming up. The date
Speaker 1: is January January, Girl, the day of all days. But girl,
Speaker 1: you and I have done this show before. It's a
Speaker 1: fantastic show, so fun, and I really think that it's
Speaker 1: one of the best shows at the BAT. I just
Speaker 1: think it's so fun. You get to see U c
Speaker 1: B comedians singing and expressing themselves through music, and it's
Speaker 1: music heightens every emotion, and music heightens every emotion. As
Speaker 1: they say, oh, he's he played. He plays piano and
Speaker 1: companies musically for so many shows in the city. Um,
Speaker 1: I've seen him just off the top of my head,
Speaker 1: play for three BASI divers at Carnegie Hall to play
Speaker 1: for Patti har Senate Ours Nova um, to play for
Speaker 1: so many shows. He is just such a fixture, such
Speaker 1: an important figure in the community everywhere, and by everywhere,
Speaker 1: I also mean you might have recognized him from Live
Speaker 1: from Everywhere, which was a show hosted by Arthur Meyer
Speaker 1: aired on Facebook Live. It was amazing. I thought it
Speaker 1: was one of the coolest things I've ever seen, very
Speaker 1: very cool. Um. He considers his number one achievement to
Speaker 1: be meeting Julie Andrews, which is very interesting in light
Speaker 1: of recently. Yes, and who knows where this new milestone
Speaker 1: will stack up to the rest, but Internet fame viralty,
Speaker 1: yes squirrel, yes, god, I agree. Guys, please welcome our
Speaker 1: guest Henry. Yes. Yeah, well we've had many years to practice.
Speaker 1: In fact, sometimes we don't even mean to be in
Speaker 1: unison exactly. I just whenever I'm around Matt, I pitch
Speaker 1: up to my tambour just matches his. I always know
Speaker 1: something's going to end in a high in a high place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind, that is your thing. Yeah, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm great and I'm really truly so happy to be here.
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite podcasts, Like I would
Speaker 1: say top three why and I know that I love
Speaker 1: both of you. I r L a lot, but I
Speaker 1: I it doesn't like have to take part in why
Speaker 1: I love this podcast? But how how many podcasts do
Speaker 1: you listen to? At least like six regularly, like maybe ten,
Speaker 1: like semi regularly. See Matt is really behind the curb
Speaker 1: on podcast. I don't listen to them because I feel
Speaker 1: as if and actually, whenever anyone says that they listen
Speaker 1: to this one, I'm always like, Geez Louise, like I
Speaker 1: love you to death, because like it is a sit
Speaker 1: to listen to a podcast. Absolutely, yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: when you're cooking your kitchen or writing the subway or
Speaker 1: I need to get more into writing listening to them
Speaker 1: on the subway. Yeah. Whenever someone references something that happened
Speaker 1: that I know happened the very end of the Lost
Speaker 1: Cultures this episode, I'm like, that means you sat through
Speaker 1: the entire episode wild and remembered something enough to refer
Speaker 1: it to like regurgitate it to me. It's it's why
Speaker 1: I truly think they're all thrilling start to finish, And
Speaker 1: you really have like guests that I didn't know or
Speaker 1: like are not on my radar at all, and and
Speaker 1: I'm fans of everyone that's been on the show. Those
Speaker 1: are some of his favorite episodes, he tells me, which
Speaker 1: was that he didn't know. He really enjoyed the one
Speaker 1: with Nicole Conlin. Nicole, Yeah, I've never met her. Um,
Speaker 1: and I loved it was about sports. I hate sports.
Speaker 1: We hate sports. We hated Yeah. Um, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's that's so. That's so wonderful to hear. Um what
Speaker 1: was I gonna say? Well, I just want to say
Speaker 1: we scooped the scoop. We scoop the scoop because we
Speaker 1: are the first to interview Henry Kaperski after he met
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama on TV. Just, I mean, we're filming this
Speaker 1: on Thursday. It was yesterday, but when you guys listened
Speaker 1: to it, it it will be two days ago he met
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama. You met Michelle? Henry described this to the
Speaker 1: listeners what happened? Like, how, how are you contacted? What
Speaker 1: was the day? Like? If you're allowed to divulge this,
Speaker 1: I think so. My friend Arthur, who I did the
Speaker 1: Many Central pilot with, he is like a writer at
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon Tonight Show. It's never been said that way
Speaker 1: before Jimmy Fallon Tonight Show. I think he's like the
Speaker 1: writing supervisor. He's been with him for a long time.
Speaker 1: He's an amazing person that I love dearly and has
Speaker 1: given me some awesome opportunities and as yet just so
Speaker 1: so nice. And he texted me the day before the
Speaker 1: show and it was like you like Michelle Obama, right?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I love her. And I
Speaker 1: sent him like screenshots of like things I've said about
Speaker 1: her and social media and stuff, and he was like,
Speaker 1: are you free tomorrow morning to film this silly segment
Speaker 1: where you just like talked to a portrait of her
Speaker 1: and thank her, and then we're gonna show the footage
Speaker 1: to her later on the show and she'll get choked up, hopefully.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh yeah, of course. And I
Speaker 1: wrote a message that night after watching Obama's incredible farewell speech,
Speaker 1: which the motion most emotional part was when he pelle waterworks, Um,
Speaker 1: and uh lost my train of thought. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: wrote a message and I got to the studio and
Speaker 1: I met Um. There was twelve of us that got
Speaker 1: this opportunity, and I was talking to other people and
Speaker 1: I felt like the message I wrote wasn't like specific
Speaker 1: enough to me. It was like two generals, just like
Speaker 1: saying how great she is. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: gotta write something else. And minutes before I went in,
Speaker 1: I got inspired. I was like, truly, like what does
Speaker 1: Michelle mean to me? Really? And I just like spit
Speaker 1: it out on my iPod or iPhone and then like
Speaker 1: set it to myself a bunch of my head. And
Speaker 1: I walked in the room and dear Arthur was there
Speaker 1: standing and he directed me to the portrait and I
Speaker 1: nailed it. I said it so perfectly, and I really
Speaker 1: was so happy with my delivery. Because I usually stumble
Speaker 1: in live performances, trying to get better about that. In
Speaker 1: two thousands seventeen, yes, and so I was just like
Speaker 1: happy that I actually ruled number eighteen of culture do
Speaker 1: not performance culture. Um, so anyway, you nailed it. I
Speaker 1: nailed it, and I just felt so good and was
Speaker 1: ready to turn around, like kay, got it. And then
Speaker 1: she walks out from behind the curtain and I truly
Speaker 1: started hyperventilating. You didn't think there was any chance that
Speaker 1: she was there? No, I mean, and like the back
Speaker 1: of my head, I was like, wouldn't be crazy if there,
Speaker 1: if she's actually gonna be there, And we had to
Speaker 1: go through the secret Service to get into dirty rock
Speaker 1: and stuff, so I was like, but they're probably just
Speaker 1: there all day. When like the first lady comes, um,
Speaker 1: so I just put it out of my mind because
Speaker 1: I was like, this is just an incredible opportunity. Anyway, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: she walked here and I started hyperventilating. And I can't
Speaker 1: even remember until I saw the show air. I couldn't
Speaker 1: even remember what she was wearing because all I saw
Speaker 1: was her face and like beams of light coming, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Like she was like the virgin Mary just
Speaker 1: like I'm making hand mootions that you can't see, like
Speaker 1: you know, like a halo kind of. Yes, an angel
Speaker 1: on this earth. Yeah, she truly is an angel. And
Speaker 1: she has this presence. Okay, I've said this before out
Speaker 1: loud to people. When I saw A Little Night Music
Speaker 1: the Sandheim Musical with Bernadette and Elaine Stretch. When Bernada
Speaker 1: enter is the makes her first entrance, the air gets
Speaker 1: sucked out of the room, like she has that special presence.
Speaker 1: We're just like, oh my god, you truly are. And
Speaker 1: that same thing with Michelle Obama, Like and you know,
Speaker 1: I was the third person to go, and I even
Speaker 1: the camera people you could tell every time she walks,
Speaker 1: and I bet they were all just like because she's
Speaker 1: that incredible. She's so her heart is so golden and
Speaker 1: pure and I truly believe like she's not like putting
Speaker 1: on a show at all, Like that is her down
Speaker 1: to her core. And I, oh my god, it was
Speaker 1: so and I can't even remember. She was saying to me,
Speaker 1: it's all blur. The main question people are asking me
Speaker 1: is what did she smell? Like I I can't remember
Speaker 1: at all, Like I have no idea. Um, I mean
Speaker 1: watching you react to it. I have. I have got
Speaker 1: to be honest, I have cried for many reasons over
Speaker 1: the past twenty four hours from from many times and
Speaker 1: but like every single time I watch it, Like today
Speaker 1: he came in the door from wherever you were coming from,
Speaker 1: and I was like truly crying because I watched it again,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is such a special moment.
Speaker 1: And I have to say it is very bitter, oh absolutely,
Speaker 1: but that moment I just have to say, like, yes,
Speaker 1: there there's something about the sentiment that's being expressed by
Speaker 1: all these people. It's real and and just her presence.
Speaker 1: And so I watched again this morning with Doug, our
Speaker 1: friend Doug um and and he hadn't watched it up
Speaker 1: until that moment, and he was just like he started
Speaker 1: laughing uncontrollaby about how amazing this one. And I was like,
Speaker 1: isn't this Isn't this incredible? It's insane, Like no, like,
Speaker 1: I can't think of a public figure that has that
Speaker 1: effect on and to meet her this week, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? That was such It was such a
Speaker 1: good I mean, kudos to the tonight show for this
Speaker 1: like it was it would have healed my soul, even
Speaker 1: if Henry wasn't in it, but the fact that like
Speaker 1: you were, that was just such a special gift. I
Speaker 1: want to say, Like the other people that got that
Speaker 1: opportunity were such incredible people, Like many of them were
Speaker 1: like women that had started their own company who said
Speaker 1: they were inspired by Michelle, like we all like talked beforehand,
Speaker 1: or one like started this scholarship that helps young women
Speaker 1: of color, like uh find the right college, and so
Speaker 1: like there was a dad that was really sweet. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and I felt so. I truly, I'm so grateful that
Speaker 1: I happened. But I don't think I deserved and I'm
Speaker 1: not and I'm not looking for that reaction either. I'm
Speaker 1: not looking for that reaction. I really like, like I
Speaker 1: didn't did not know I was going to meet here,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was just gonna be a fun thing.
Speaker 1: If I did, I would I maybe would have recommended
Speaker 1: a friend of me. There's like people I think so
Speaker 1: often doesn't realize how special he is Iselle very Michelle
Speaker 1: Obama like of him to do and it's it's very
Speaker 1: humble of you to do this. But I have to
Speaker 1: say this was chicken soup for the soul for everybody
Speaker 1: that knows it was because because we're so happy that
Speaker 1: it was you, because you make every space that you're
Speaker 1: in so much better and so much warmer. And what
Speaker 1: I always say about Henry attetional, he really he makes
Speaker 1: everybody thing. Yes, yes, that is so beautiful, just to
Speaker 1: see everyone in these new spaces, Like I just think
Speaker 1: you are such a gift to this community. I really
Speaker 1: do like over the past you know, two years that
Speaker 1: I think you've really been involved in it. You really have.
Speaker 1: Just you've changed, You've changed people game. And that's what
Speaker 1: another reason why I really want everybody to support a
Speaker 1: Little Night Music, because this is it puts these really
Speaker 1: kind of figures at UCB and comedic figures that we
Speaker 1: kind of look up to, and it puts them in
Speaker 1: a vulnerable place. And I think that's why um Shannon
Speaker 1: O'Neil is so behind the show, and I think that's
Speaker 1: why the show keeps going because you allow people a
Speaker 1: new experience and what we don't realize as artists that
Speaker 1: we crave that and you provide that for everybody. And
Speaker 1: I think that's such a special, unique thing that you do,
Speaker 1: and you are so special and you deserve this opportunity
Speaker 1: more than anybody that I know. I count myself so
Speaker 1: lucky to obviously share what we have together, but you
Speaker 1: just I couldn't think of a better person. Well, and
Speaker 1: everybody agrees, everybody, everybody. We're not the first people to
Speaker 1: say this, people said this on social media. It just
Speaker 1: the minute you came I watched this live at home.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not missing this. I want to
Speaker 1: see this as it happens. I was just lying on
Speaker 1: my couch just watching me, and I was like, don't
Speaker 1: Jimmy Founds on TV? Okay, cool um? And then this
Speaker 1: happened in the minute you came on screen, Henry, I
Speaker 1: just chills and I texted you afterwards like I'm shaking
Speaker 1: him shaking. It just you just brought pure joy to
Speaker 1: that to that moment, and you're genuine appreciation and joy,
Speaker 1: and that is something that I think that we're going
Speaker 1: to have to really, Oh my god, as I start crying,
Speaker 1: really remember over the next however long this continues to
Speaker 1: go on, because that is something that is like really missing.
Speaker 1: And I just think that we really could learn something
Speaker 1: from people like Henry, who you know, like find a
Speaker 1: way to keep going and keep bringing joy to the world,
Speaker 1: and I really just want everyone to remember that, you know,
Speaker 1: like with social media and you know, I get that
Speaker 1: everyone's very fired up and very upset, Like just remember that,
Speaker 1: like there's still a lot of good in the world.
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of reasons to be happy, and
Speaker 1: there's it's not over until we until we give up,
Speaker 1: you know, And let's just not give up, and let's
Speaker 1: keep filling the world with positivity because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, like that's all we have because it
Speaker 1: could it could be bleak. It's not only just positivity,
Speaker 1: it's humanity and that's it's it's and that's what Ay,
Speaker 1: we will have to like struggle harder and harder to
Speaker 1: access and be is what Like Michelle and Henry and
Speaker 1: just Zoo, I definitely do not deserve to be. Yes,
Speaker 1: definitely definitely, and we're blessed. Just you go ahead and
Speaker 1: use the word bless Why the funk not come for me,
Speaker 1: come for me, people who don't want me to say
Speaker 1: Judeo Christian language, I don't approve. I'm coming pretty later on. Yes,
Speaker 1: come for me, um, But you know what, I just think,
Speaker 1: let's let's just like let's give a shot just like,
Speaker 1: um just putting something like when when you when you
Speaker 1: step out into the world, just like, do something that's
Speaker 1: gonna be nice for someone else, do something that's gonna
Speaker 1: be positive for someone else, because it really makes a
Speaker 1: huge difference. Okay, this is huge, Matt, Thank you for
Speaker 1: saying that, because my in my bullet journal this year. Everyone,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're if you're journaling a new trend,
Speaker 1: if you're on the bullet journal craze, let me know.
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. I really nothing is stuck with me
Speaker 1: like this in a while. So hopefully I encourage you
Speaker 1: all to just google bullet journaling. Don't blame bullet journaling.
Speaker 1: So oh my god flowed away from honey, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what it is. Here we go. So about
Speaker 1: last year, this this uh just like a douche bag
Speaker 1: of a man, but actually he's he's a good person.
Speaker 1: He released this video called bullet like how how to
Speaker 1: bullet journal? Is it? Tim Farris ears Tim first, but
Speaker 1: he's like also, yeah, like say kind of person but
Speaker 1: means well it's like chaotic good. So anyway, um, so
Speaker 1: this guy puts out this video about how to bullet journal,
Speaker 1: which is just basically a system of a planning b
Speaker 1: like logging your day, see like planning already said planning,
Speaker 1: but like see like um, just sort of organizing your
Speaker 1: thoughts because I used to just write notebooks and like
Speaker 1: scribble nonsense, and I would never refer back to it,
Speaker 1: would never flip back through my pages and be like
Speaker 1: what did I write this day? Like never had to
Speaker 1: refer back to because I never wanted to because it
Speaker 1: was never built into that system of just it's a
Speaker 1: way to organize your drib So it's just like a
Speaker 1: non linear way. It's so it's like you set up
Speaker 1: you have to number every page of a blank notebook
Speaker 1: as you go not like you sit down one day
Speaker 1: and just number every single blank page. But as you
Speaker 1: keep going forward, you number every page. But there's a
Speaker 1: table of contents that you refer back to, and as
Speaker 1: it's like as you're going through this, you basically like
Speaker 1: just go back to like let's say, like I'm playing,
Speaker 1: I have a page that has all my days on it,
Speaker 1: and like on a daily log of what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to do, like oh like pick up, you know, dry cleaning,
Speaker 1: or do do all this stuff. But then on the
Speaker 1: next page, and like all of a sudden, I want
Speaker 1: to write about um, like books, I want to read
Speaker 1: a list of books I want to read. I'll just
Speaker 1: go to the next page, write a list. Look at
Speaker 1: the number page that is. Go back to my table
Speaker 1: contents right down in there. I want to page twelve.
Speaker 1: So it's actually it's built in for you to refer
Speaker 1: back to this and like refer back to what you write,
Speaker 1: which is brilliant. But the lifestyle blog community Pinterest, like
Speaker 1: Washy Tape vlogger funk Fest of the Internet has caught
Speaker 1: wind of this and totally bastardized it with like their
Speaker 1: calligraphy and they're like colorful pants on and like, not
Speaker 1: to diss that, but it's like if you if you're
Speaker 1: into that, great, But the system was just done in
Speaker 1: design to be super simple and minimalistic. Anyway, Matt was
Speaker 1: just talking about putting positivity into the world, as inspired
Speaker 1: by this video of Henry meeting Michelle Obama. In my
Speaker 1: bullet journal, I have a habit tracker where every day
Speaker 1: I wrote that, like it's like every day, like drink
Speaker 1: this much water, like uh, you know, wake up by
Speaker 1: this time of day. I call my parents. But then
Speaker 1: one of my line items was resist, which was like
Speaker 1: call my senators or like sign a petition, or like
Speaker 1: do something activisty. But then I think with the missing
Speaker 1: piece of the thing that has to balance that out,
Speaker 1: Like I felt good doing that, and I really am
Speaker 1: on this high of like being sort of a polite
Speaker 1: asshole to my senators and my time as people. But
Speaker 1: the thing to balance that out has to be like
Speaker 1: doing something good for like a random person, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what that makes something good for a random person?
Speaker 1: Doing something nice for yourself thing, just like don't forget
Speaker 1: to take care of yourself. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: us are in shock right now. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are dealing with it in all sorts of
Speaker 1: different ways. And who's to say what the right way
Speaker 1: to deal with this is, because I think we are
Speaker 1: right now. I think a lot of us are feeling
Speaker 1: a sort of grief, um, a sort of embarrassment. Some
Speaker 1: of us, I think are feeling a sort of like nostalgia.
Speaker 1: I remember I thought I thought about myself at eighteen
Speaker 1: years old dancing around a union square. Um, yes we
Speaker 1: canning um, And I felt sad and that just that
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to be a sad memory, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, man, it's just so hard. So I think, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay, it's okay to like angry, be angry, but
Speaker 1: also just remember like there's what there's things you can
Speaker 1: do to make a self happy, make yourself a t
Speaker 1: you know, like go for a run, like it made
Speaker 1: me feel real, it's making me really feel good. We
Speaker 1: just moved to a new apartment. It's making me feel
Speaker 1: really good to keep it super clean like that. Like
Speaker 1: just I think like you can you can take actually
Speaker 1: and also take that second, like take care of yourself,
Speaker 1: because I know I'm right on the edge of going insane.
Speaker 1: I yet last night I had to did it with
Speaker 1: my parents and I cried to them because I think
Speaker 1: I'm going to delete my Facebook because I just can't
Speaker 1: do it anymore. Do whatever you need. I think I
Speaker 1: might have to delete it. Come on, I'll support you
Speaker 1: because it's making me crazy. Yeah, I feel a little new.
Speaker 1: You guys feel like yes, what do you instantly? I yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's both the good things about Facebook and
Speaker 1: the bad things about Facebook are stuff you don't need,
Speaker 1: Like even when there are positive things happening, you can
Speaker 1: find even better versions of that in real life, or
Speaker 1: or good things that are also productive. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it a lot too. I just my
Speaker 1: main I can't get rid of because I just think
Speaker 1: about like promotion things. But you know what, And I
Speaker 1: spoke to a friend last night that, um, I was
Speaker 1: texting with a friend that dropped Facebook and isn't on it,
Speaker 1: and she was telling me, you know, you use Twitter
Speaker 1: and Instagram for those things. You don't have to not
Speaker 1: use social media, or you could just kind of like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, you could just um, you could just kind
Speaker 1: of you know, get everyone's emails and send those emails
Speaker 1: things that everyone does. Also just make an honest effort
Speaker 1: to see people outside of social media. What kills me,
Speaker 1: What kills me is when people that I met and
Speaker 1: fell in love with for their talent and for the
Speaker 1: who for who they were as human beings now just
Speaker 1: become a little square to me and and and a
Speaker 1: scary um Facebook persona or like a weak Facebook persona
Speaker 1: or a funny, non serious Facebook persona, and we're branding
Speaker 1: each other, you know what I mean. And it's not natural.
Speaker 1: You don't need this thing to survive, and think about
Speaker 1: it you think about like, oh, you know, like I
Speaker 1: use it my way whatever, Like I'm not beholden to anything.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone anything. We all everyday log onto
Speaker 1: the same website. That there's something weird about that, and
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just it's gotten to a place
Speaker 1: now where I feel like you must question it, or
Speaker 1: at least if you're feeling like I am, or you're
Speaker 1: feeling a little insane, you must question it. And I
Speaker 1: do think a lot of this has to do with
Speaker 1: the fact that I will We'll go ahead and totally
Speaker 1: admit that I have an addiction to it. I am
Speaker 1: addicted to Facebook, and uh, it's making me crazy. I mean,
Speaker 1: I had to fight the urge today to go on
Speaker 1: at several times so I could write the script that
Speaker 1: I've been talking about writing for months and I'm almost
Speaker 1: done with it. But the thing is, like I had
Speaker 1: to actively break down. I had, I had, I had.
Speaker 1: Actually it's the noble where I was in tears yesterday,
Speaker 1: like you know, it's just and I know that it's
Speaker 1: not my fault. I mean were We had our friend
Speaker 1: Zach Grander Harris over last night to watch Henry on
Speaker 1: Tonight Show and he said, you know, this isn't your fault.
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's it's not your fault that like
Speaker 1: everyone in the world uses this thing, and it's like
Speaker 1: this resource that's that's there and you're expected to use
Speaker 1: and especially when you're everyone wants to because they're constantly
Speaker 1: taking your data and using it for or against you.
Speaker 1: And you know what it's it's designed to be a
Speaker 1: part of your life, and it's designed to be ingreened
Speaker 1: in your life. But the fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: it is not food. It is not water, it is
Speaker 1: not oxygen, it is not sheltered you not not needed
Speaker 1: to survive. And I would almost challenge people to get
Speaker 1: off of it, because I really might. I'm still wrestling
Speaker 1: with myself because then today it was an easier day,
Speaker 1: so I was on it and like I loved seeing
Speaker 1: everyone sharing the video of you and it was such
Speaker 1: a positive moment. I was like, yes, like maybe it
Speaker 1: can be the us again. And I also don't want
Speaker 1: people to think that I'm running scared from like reality
Speaker 1: or like information, that it just might not be mentally
Speaker 1: healthy for me. Right, So, um, you're mentioning how Facebook
Speaker 1: is not food or water. Um, I only eat if
Speaker 1: I blog onto Facebook a certain number of times a day. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's how, that's how, that's how my body is it.
Speaker 1: It has to happen that way, Um, Matt, I think no,
Speaker 1: you know what, You're absolutely right, Henry, are you? Because okay,
Speaker 1: I think the three of us have just use Facebook
Speaker 1: for similar reasons, which is, but you know what, Henry,
Speaker 1: that's the same thing I think about. The number one
Speaker 1: thing I think about when I think about quitting Facebook
Speaker 1: is saying, oh, you know what I would miss is yeah,
Speaker 1: and not only for your own shows. Like one of
Speaker 1: my two thousand seventeen goals is to go see other
Speaker 1: people's shows more. And so I've been making a point
Speaker 1: every time one of our friends says my show is
Speaker 1: this day, I put it in my calendar right away,
Speaker 1: and if I'm free that night, I'm gonna go. Like
Speaker 1: Christie Shackelford, Yeah, one of her final shows on Friday Friday,
Speaker 1: I believe it's Friday Friday tomorrow. Yeah, as in tomorrow. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you're posted about it today. Well, you know what, continue talking.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I get the right next week. Um.
Speaker 1: Is Asian pop, which is like Maya and Iliana and
Speaker 1: the Small People. I don't know show new show, first
Speaker 1: show Halle has like and I wouldn't know about them
Speaker 1: because I didn't get an email from them, and and
Speaker 1: it's not like they need to start an email change
Speaker 1: just for the people get on Facebook. It's hard to know.
Speaker 1: Like that's just as important. Yeah, like I want to
Speaker 1: be promoted to from certain people at least totally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is the thirteenth Chrissie's show is Okay, Diane Trianguarila
Speaker 1: at ucb Janu. She will be our next guest Another
Speaker 1: Light in the World, True Light, my pal. Well, but
Speaker 1: see that's the thing. It's like, Oh, I guess technically
Speaker 1: what Matt saying is that you could like go on
Speaker 1: Instagram and it's cross promoted in some cases. But if
Speaker 1: we all decided to use Instagram that way, which I
Speaker 1: know that's not the way you use Instagram. And I'm
Speaker 1: also I'm not advocating for this revolution away from Facebook.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if you're feeling like me, and you're
Speaker 1: feeling a little overwhelmed by everything and a little watched
Speaker 1: and a little bit like crazy, um, you can take
Speaker 1: a break. And I spoke to a couple of people
Speaker 1: and that have taken a break and it's been really
Speaker 1: good for them. And I actually everyone that I've spoken
Speaker 1: to that that stopped using it, Um, they said it
Speaker 1: was good for them. Actually raved about not being Yeah,
Speaker 1: I believe Anthony King he used to artistic direct ucb
Speaker 1: here wrote this. I think it was probably like some
Speaker 1: self publishic medium article about how he just is basically
Speaker 1: off Twitter just just because of the news aspect of it.
Speaker 1: He does not want to feel constantly angry. It's because
Speaker 1: you guys aren't journalists, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: I think, I think, Um, it's what do you mean?
Speaker 1: You guys are journaling like all y'all on Facebook. You're
Speaker 1: not journalists. And I understand. I think that, Um, when
Speaker 1: it's on Facebook, it is filtered because it's in your voice.
Speaker 1: And when you do go on Facebook, you are seeing
Speaker 1: a feed of people that you selected to give you information,
Speaker 1: and that is a filtered thing. So I would also
Speaker 1: be interested to see what it was, what it would
Speaker 1: be like if I just got my news from the news,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because that's not how I've
Speaker 1: existed in this world. I don't know about like our
Speaker 1: listeners and out there. I don't know about you guys,
Speaker 1: but the way I've gotten news, in the way I've
Speaker 1: heard about things is the View, but also Facebook, but
Speaker 1: no lines. During the O eight election, I watched the
Speaker 1: View every day. I watched the View every day, and
Speaker 1: Henry hates the View. I don't hate it. I just
Speaker 1: I'm so happy we're talking about the View? Can we
Speaker 1: talking about the View? I just we've We've mentioned this
Speaker 1: so many times in the show before, but truly, there
Speaker 1: will never be a moment on TV again ever, like
Speaker 1: Sherry Shepherd thinking the world is flat or not being
Speaker 1: sure if the world is flat? Isn't that why we
Speaker 1: why we should hoist them? Let me let me just
Speaker 1: not anymore because the people in the View now suck.
Speaker 1: I want to finish my thought about this news thing
Speaker 1: because I don't want to just leave it technic. I'm just,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm interested in the idea of not hearing
Speaker 1: about uh, the Russian interference by hearing about golden showers,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Hashtag gold showers on Facebook.
Speaker 1: I'm interested in and maybe watching Rachel Maddow and you
Speaker 1: know what, and not and not hearing about what you
Speaker 1: have to say about Rachel Maddow. While I love, while
Speaker 1: I love hearing that, I would also love to watch
Speaker 1: what she says. You know, we have cable now, I
Speaker 1: can watch television. I can source things out myself. Maybe
Speaker 1: the Facebook won't be the first website I go to
Speaker 1: from now on, Maybe it will be a news source
Speaker 1: that I trust. Yeah, we stop talking about Facebook. It's
Speaker 1: really making me anxious. And you've been talking about it
Speaker 1: so much. Like yeah, I don't know if because like
Speaker 1: interjected like this, but that's okay, We're not talking my Facebook.
Speaker 1: I will say one more thing re Rachel Maddow. I've
Speaker 1: never been talking about the View, Okay, I have no
Speaker 1: opinions on the view. Also just saying that too, I
Speaker 1: do have opinions on Rachel Maddow, which is this. I've
Speaker 1: had people tell me that like me not shutting the
Speaker 1: funk up about Rachel Maadow has has helped them listen
Speaker 1: to Rachel Mandow has every day, definitely. But I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm rolling that back. And even today over
Speaker 1: the phone with something with someone, uh like I was
Speaker 1: talking to someone and they were like, oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to enjoy this last week of Obama
Speaker 1: being president, and I was like, yep, yep, yep, it's tough. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then I was telling them about how like much
Speaker 1: of a jerk I've been over the phone to my representatives,
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, yeah, I saw on Facebook.
Speaker 1: And then for some reason he got very self conscious,
Speaker 1: like I was being too seen. And it's that it's
Speaker 1: that like brand persona thing where it's like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: and then I immediately sort of like, yeah, just defending
Speaker 1: myself got defense and I was like, oh, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think I've I need to roll it back because
Speaker 1: I've been a little too militant anyway. Um, but it's
Speaker 1: interesting to hear that you don't want to you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily want to listen to me talk about Rachel, but
Speaker 1: you want to watch Rachel Nado. Right, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just I just want I want my information like
Speaker 1: from the source a little bit more as much as
Speaker 1: as much as you can get that nowadays. But to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, look, Bowen's talking about this thing that
Speaker 1: I also listened to, and it is sharing with other people.
Speaker 1: That is, yeah, if I had listened to it. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I'm getting the majority of my
Speaker 1: news from this website, and I don't want to do this.
Speaker 1: This isn't even this isn't even bigger zoom out from
Speaker 1: like red feet, blue feet. It's like meta information. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's not talk about Facebook anymore. Um the view, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Henry doesn't like it. It drives some nuts,
Speaker 1: but I also understand why it drives. It's just like
Speaker 1: watching people argue, you know, when like none of them
Speaker 1: are experts on it. No. Do you know what really
Speaker 1: made me feel shitty was when they were talking about
Speaker 1: Maria the year. Come on, It's like, none of you
Speaker 1: were singer. It's nothing, you know what. It's like, Oh wait,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. So this is our first episode
Speaker 1: of the New Year. The three of us, I think,
Speaker 1: are all on the same page about Maria and what
Speaker 1: happened on New Year's all the way and look what if?
Speaker 1: What a good sport she was by just going out
Speaker 1: there and being like, wow, I can't do anything about
Speaker 1: this fucking thing. So kind of like people are saying
Speaker 1: she was like being sassy or unappreciative. When you're at
Speaker 1: that level of stardom, it would be like embarrassing for
Speaker 1: her to like be really shy and embarrassed. It was
Speaker 1: like she owned it and was like things are falling apart,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of funny, Like I thought she handled
Speaker 1: it perfectly to me too, Oh my god. And to
Speaker 1: end that whole fucking thing with the line doesn't get
Speaker 1: any better than this is. So I'm fucking good. And
Speaker 1: do the left, I mean do the lift just for laughs.
Speaker 1: And I am not a Mariah fan. I've like really
Speaker 1: rarely cared. It's not that I don't like her, I
Speaker 1: just don't care. Music has never really gotten to me.
Speaker 1: Maybe a few key tracks right, but overall, like I
Speaker 1: can name three songs tops like I don't stand that's
Speaker 1: why you don't love Mariah. But but that's I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's why it's big that for this New Year's Eve thing,
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, no, she's fine, it's fine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god. Henry had never heard the song. By all, look,
Speaker 1: I will I will admit that I never really grew
Speaker 1: up with Mariah in the same way that a lot
Speaker 1: of other people did for me. Like that, It's interesting,
Speaker 1: isn't it that the Mariah shaped hole was filled for
Speaker 1: me by Selene? Like I was like I don't care
Speaker 1: for other people. That's what happened, which I just like
Speaker 1: a very childish thing to think. But now, what's interesting,
Speaker 1: Even as a young gay, I felt the need to
Speaker 1: stand behind just one of them, right, did you? Because
Speaker 1: you you? Who did you love as a child? As
Speaker 1: a child, was there a pop tva that you love?
Speaker 1: I got really into Janet Jackson. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: about you. That's cool. And I wasn't in the pop
Speaker 1: music all because I was very sheltered, Like I listened
Speaker 1: to like classical music and jazz and like music theater.
Speaker 1: That's it. Um. And then I got to sixth grade
Speaker 1: and there's this kid named josh Oh I won't say
Speaker 1: his last name who I he is obsessed was obsessed
Speaker 1: to Janet Jackson, and he like introduced me to her
Speaker 1: like we were. I think he's probably gay. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen him like since eighth grade, but I think he's
Speaker 1: probably gay NOWT and I think we were bonding exactly.
Speaker 1: I think we're We became like pretty good friends whose
Speaker 1: were both gay, and he like changed my world, like
Speaker 1: he would make me listen to stuff, he would make
Speaker 1: me watch music videos and I didn't know she went
Speaker 1: like I know who Michael Jackson is because like you
Speaker 1: can't avoid that. Um and yeah, for a good reason.
Speaker 1: He's amazing. Um. But yeah, like it was so different
Speaker 1: than anything I had been exposed to, and I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I love Janet Jackson now and like became really into it.
Speaker 1: Which Janet was that this is like all for you,
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Um, like yeah, so this would have
Speaker 1: been who I was in sixth grade? Interesting yeah, um
Speaker 1: yeah she was huge at that point, it was, and
Speaker 1: it was like a revival. Yeah. And I wasn't allowed
Speaker 1: to watch PG thirteen movie until I was thirteen, but
Speaker 1: my friend Josh showed me The Nutty Professor and stuff
Speaker 1: amazing and which was like I had never seen a
Speaker 1: comedy like that. I hadn't see a comedy that wasn't
Speaker 1: like Disney or something, and and it was like it
Speaker 1: was insane to see. And I didn't know who Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy was. Like I was very sheltered as a kid.
Speaker 1: Would you bring up because because it's because of January
Speaker 1: it's your first PG thirteen movie that you saw, No,
Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, oh really is she? Even in the
Speaker 1: movie she's the love interest of the Clumps, which I
Speaker 1: can't say the word the clumps with that laughing, and
Speaker 1: I never the way the reason I saw the clumps,
Speaker 1: it's because one day I was just let me the
Speaker 1: title of this episode. No no, no, no no, we'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. It's not worthy of our guest. But
Speaker 1: the title of the episode is he makes us um Okay.
Speaker 1: But the reason I saw the clumps is because one
Speaker 1: day I was just like sitting in my house and
Speaker 1: my dad was like, hey, get in the car. I
Speaker 1: was like okay. He's like, we're going to go see
Speaker 1: the clumps, like okay, And my dad had never done this, never.
Speaker 1: But one thing about my dad that actually I'm remembering
Speaker 1: now is he actually is a huge Eddie Murphy fan.
Speaker 1: First album was Eddie Murphy's comedy album. So he's like
Speaker 1: an Eddie Murphy fan going all the way back. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's seen like Norbit, but like Which is
Speaker 1: a great movie. It's fantastically any any movie where the
Speaker 1: character named rest, I mean that's for me, but anyway, uh, anyway,
Speaker 1: so he I think loves Eddie Murphy and just put
Speaker 1: me in the car and we want to go see it.
Speaker 1: And then there's that one scene where like the the
Speaker 1: like one of the weird white guys gets like asked
Speaker 1: by that hamster, I've never seen it. Oh, you need
Speaker 1: to see the clubs now. It is a comedic to
Speaker 1: force I want to go home, smokable and just watch
Speaker 1: nor again. Can we do that? Like tonight? My god?
Speaker 1: We should no, wait, not nor but though we should
Speaker 1: find a way to get the clumps? No, I no,
Speaker 1: I don't want. I don't I've actually never seen Norbit
Speaker 1: and I kind of refused. I've never seen Okay, how
Speaker 1: can you expect me to watch the clumps but you
Speaker 1: refused to watch the clumps? Is actual quality? Because Norbit
Speaker 1: is actual quality? Okay, this is guy listeners, help us
Speaker 1: weigh in on this. Please Norbitt versus not any professor
Speaker 1: to the clumps? Which is better? Okay, let's keep going.
Speaker 1: You know what else is in that I liked at
Speaker 1: the time when I saw it is why did they
Speaker 1: get married? Too? By Tyler Perry, which also has Jill Scott,
Speaker 1: who is my current favorite. Yeah, that's who Henry loves
Speaker 1: is my number one. I would have the same reaction
Speaker 1: to meeting her as Michelle explain why, because Henry has
Speaker 1: a very interesting taste yes, yes. When you listen to
Speaker 1: Jill Scott's music, it is all her. She writes every word,
Speaker 1: she writes every note. She's a fantastic musician. Um. She
Speaker 1: started out as an English teacher in Philly and was
Speaker 1: teaching poetry, and she started writing her own and she
Speaker 1: started going to jams and stuff, and she'd always been
Speaker 1: a talented vocalist and stuff. And then I can't remember
Speaker 1: who discovered her. I think Erica Bad discovered her. They're
Speaker 1: really good friends. And um, you also love Eric and
Speaker 1: I love Eric. Oh my god. Yeah, I've seen Erica
Speaker 1: four times live. I've seen Jill once because she rarely
Speaker 1: comes to New York. Um. She did New Year's Eve
Speaker 1: at Radio City and it was I was poor at
Speaker 1: the time and couldn't go, but I'm she's the best.
Speaker 1: When I did see her, I just cried the whole time. Like,
Speaker 1: and her albums don't do like I think they're really good,
Speaker 1: like easy listening, like they're really relaxing and just the
Speaker 1: most amazing beats and stuff. But she doesn't like go
Speaker 1: in with the vocals. When you see her live, she
Speaker 1: is one of the best vocalists I've ever heard. She
Speaker 1: has like the range of an opera singer, but like
Speaker 1: the soul of you know, a soul singer rum and
Speaker 1: then she like takes from all types of genres and
Speaker 1: puts them. She is so when I see her live,
Speaker 1: the one time I saw our live, it was life changing.
Speaker 1: Um did you really watch her show on HBO? It
Speaker 1: was called Number one Ladies at Text. Yes, it was,
Speaker 1: like I think, beloved by critics, but it did only
Speaker 1: last one season and Nika Noni Rose was on it.
Speaker 1: And who's also incredible. Come forth, come forth, come forth?
Speaker 1: That is in the front the front runner for the
Speaker 1: title of this epod. We've said this before, we come forth.
Speaker 1: We said, you know who else you've said come forth
Speaker 1: about on what it's called ristas Katherine Keener. We said,
Speaker 1: come forth Katherine Keener. Anyway, Um, yeah, I I we
Speaker 1: I listened. We listened to a little bit of Jill
Speaker 1: Scott here and there, um, and I like her. I
Speaker 1: don't really get her track on the Hamilton mixtape. She
Speaker 1: just does. Can't say no to this, but she thinks
Speaker 1: perspective of yeah, I liked to listen. No, wait, is
Speaker 1: this true? Though? She does she range her own stuff too.
Speaker 1: I believe she does a lot of that here. She
Speaker 1: has people she works with, but she like it's her
Speaker 1: ideas and stuff, and um, I've listened to tons of
Speaker 1: live recordings and she always is really unique. I've never
Speaker 1: like one of her most famous songs, and my favorite
Speaker 1: song is Golden And every live performance is totally different,
Speaker 1: not even different like tempo, like different genres. She has
Speaker 1: like one where she does as like a samba, or
Speaker 1: she has one where she's like an insanely slow like
Speaker 1: jazz ballot, and then she'll like or it's so cool,
Speaker 1: She's so amazing, and she gets the best musicians, like incredible.
Speaker 1: They're all jazz musicians playing like R and B and stuff,
Speaker 1: which is like the best package jazz musicians playing R
Speaker 1: and B and Oh it's so good. And you know
Speaker 1: who else is amazing live? Lauren Hill. I've seen her.
Speaker 1: I've seen her three times, and one time I saw her,
Speaker 1: she was singing I think everything what is that one?
Speaker 1: Everything is everything? Everything is everything? Yeah, and she like
Speaker 1: had her backup singers like keep singing this like um, Austin,
Speaker 1: not Sonana, but like this repetitive phrase and slowly she
Speaker 1: made each person in the band drop out. She like
Speaker 1: pointed the drummer and like do like the like kill
Speaker 1: herself signed and then stopped, and so it's just the
Speaker 1: backup singers. And then she took the backup singers like
Speaker 1: she put her finger to her ear and then like
Speaker 1: gesture to one of them and singing and be like
Speaker 1: saying this, no, no, saying this, and she would change
Speaker 1: the chords they were singing and like make weird modulations happen,
Speaker 1: and it morphed into like just this weird like avant
Speaker 1: garde like soul music thing, just her and her three
Speaker 1: backup singers, and then slowly she would sneak in the
Speaker 1: other instruments again and it would like be a different song.
Speaker 1: It was sounds amazing. Just you hearing you describe that
Speaker 1: is incredible. She's so good and her band is incredible.
Speaker 1: Didn't you meet her keyboardists recently? I met someone that
Speaker 1: plays keys for her yet where I worked with them
Speaker 1: at the ride. Oh wow, yeah, I got real super
Speaker 1: cool guy Tom. I probably saw for Lauren and that
Speaker 1: she's amazing and also getting out of jail soon and
Speaker 1: that she's gonna hopefully begin creating music again hopefully. Also
Speaker 1: u CEB Comedies Matt Rubano is the bass player on
Speaker 1: Miseducation of Lauren Hill. Phenomenal. It's not nuts. That's my
Speaker 1: favorite thing about him. He's a great guy. But like
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, that's like one of his She said
Speaker 1: the second thing, what's your second favorite thing about him?
Speaker 1: His stage president, musician. He's a very talented like actor,
Speaker 1: comedy guy. He is. M Oh, my god, so I guess,
Speaker 1: but maybe we can go into this thing. You know what, though,
Speaker 1: I think this is a good opportunity to ask Henry
Speaker 1: about I was going to say beginning that, Henry, this
Speaker 1: is the question we ask all of our guests. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know what culture did you grow up with
Speaker 1: and what were some of the cultural relics that made
Speaker 1: you say culture is for me? Um My mother was
Speaker 1: like my culture curator. To a guy come out, I
Speaker 1: was like very sheltered. Again, like I didn't know, like
Speaker 1: about the Spice Girls until like five years after they
Speaker 1: were a thing. You know. Oh my mom is a
Speaker 1: color tour soprano and she travels all over the country.
Speaker 1: She's international tours and stuff as a classical solo as
Speaker 1: she's sung with major symphonies around the world. I'm so
Speaker 1: proud of her. She's amazing and what's her name, what's
Speaker 1: her first name, Diane her stage and she's so amazing,
Speaker 1: and I'm so proud of her. And sometimes I get
Speaker 1: I've like cried before because I feel guilty that she
Speaker 1: had me and my brothers, because it prevented her from
Speaker 1: becoming like a household. Like I think she's about my mom.
Speaker 1: I think my mom could have been like Laura Osmes
Speaker 1: my mom all of my mom's I'm sorry, just just
Speaker 1: all of my mom's college friends friends from med school
Speaker 1: say that if my mom had stayed in China, she
Speaker 1: would have been the surgeon general, like that, the equivalent
Speaker 1: of this. She was the best student and at the
Speaker 1: best medical school in all of China, and then she
Speaker 1: moved to America, Like I would not have been born
Speaker 1: in China, sure with the one child only policy because
Speaker 1: I'm the second. Oh wow, So I just get I
Speaker 1: get a weird existential thing where it's like, like I
Speaker 1: exist at the expense of my mom's career. But it's
Speaker 1: okay's interesting that you feel this way. Yeah, I wish
Speaker 1: my mom had moved to New York. I kind of
Speaker 1: auditioned for Broadwa because she's that good and she's a
Speaker 1: great actress to like she would do community theater. When
Speaker 1: I was a little kid, she was in the music Man,
Speaker 1: which is a huge cultural thing. I knew every word
Speaker 1: every song Man. When I was three, she was marrying
Speaker 1: and she was also an Annie and I think she
Speaker 1: played grace. Um. That's when I was really young. But
Speaker 1: I still like, my favorite song of all time is
Speaker 1: maybe from Annie. It's because like it's one of the
Speaker 1: first songs I learned. Your favorite musical too, um, And
Speaker 1: Annie's my favorite musical because it's the first like music
Speaker 1: I was introduced to because I would hear my mom
Speaker 1: practicing it or I don't know. Um. Yeah, she's amazing
Speaker 1: and I wish and she's still working, like she tours still,
Speaker 1: and she has an amazing new musical partner that is
Speaker 1: doing some like jazz stuff where like she's so good.
Speaker 1: I love my mother. I I saw a video of
Speaker 1: Henry and and Diane playing on the piano together and oh,
Speaker 1: beautiful video one. But Henry will say that that that
Speaker 1: he was terrible or something. I no, no, no, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mess up a lot, but it's fine. Like she
Speaker 1: I will also say, is such a good pianist, and
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of that because she's not known for
Speaker 1: it all. When I was a little kid, she taught
Speaker 1: piano lessons all the time and she would this is
Speaker 1: like early culture stuff, Like she would play like Beethoven
Speaker 1: Sinatis for me and like point out stuff. I would
Speaker 1: sit next to her on the bench and she'd be like,
Speaker 1: isn't this part cool? How it does this and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and it like totally just like gave me
Speaker 1: Like I'm obsessed with class music still, and um, even
Speaker 1: though like I don't perform it at all because you
Speaker 1: have to commit to me, a classmal musician need to
Speaker 1: practice like five hours a day and stuff, um, which
Speaker 1: I could never do. But I still have appreciation because
Speaker 1: of her and um. And even before the first like
Speaker 1: movie I would watch consistently is Mozart. It's the Magic
Speaker 1: Flute in German and because she would put on before
Speaker 1: I could even speak English, and and I it's you
Speaker 1: know Mozart, so it's incredible. It's this isn't good for
Speaker 1: your listeners. If you want to get into opera a
Speaker 1: good like Gateway opera, is am I using that word correctly,
Speaker 1: is the magic flute? It's like a comedy, but it's
Speaker 1: also like very like fantastic as in like fantasy like
Speaker 1: dreamy and saying there's dragons and kings and queens and um.
Speaker 1: But it's also really oh my god, well it's at
Speaker 1: the this month actually um for but the like lead
Speaker 1: is like this famous Russian guy, so it's like a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars will take out, which is like why opera
Speaker 1: is dying because who can do that? Um? But the
Speaker 1: Magic Flute disaber flauta or something in German is uh
Speaker 1: an amazing opera. That's the that's I'm sorry, that's the title.
Speaker 1: But for pointing out my producer Alex, let's please translate
Speaker 1: that and Google translate German for the Magic Free Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's um and it's also one of the only or
Speaker 1: not only, but like most operas were written in Italian
Speaker 1: no matter what the composer was, but Mozart wrote it
Speaker 1: in German, which is kind of like huge as well
Speaker 1: because he was awesome. I have to interact and site.
Speaker 1: I had an idiot music teacher in seventh grade that
Speaker 1: told me every opera was was in English. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, every opera is in English. The reason you
Speaker 1: can't understand the words, just because they're singing it so classically,
Speaker 1: and and we all went for it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was working with us, he seemed genuine. I
Speaker 1: don't think there were any English this was maybe totally wrong,
Speaker 1: any English operas to like the nineteen hundreds Benjamin Brand,
Speaker 1: not according to Mr or whatever the fun wow, but
Speaker 1: he legitimately told us that. And as you're saying that,
Speaker 1: shaking my head thinking about like how there was literally
Speaker 1: robbed of an an opera. You know, it's just fascinating
Speaker 1: to me because like it's like with anything, like you
Speaker 1: have had an exposure to that kind of thing, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But like for me where
Speaker 1: I grew up, it was all about sports and then
Speaker 1: other communities, you know, Like I had a friend um
Speaker 1: who in college who was She went to a high
Speaker 1: school in Texas and obviously they're all about sports there
Speaker 1: as well, But the budget for the theater program was
Speaker 1: like over the top, like pictures of her in the
Speaker 1: scarlet pimpernel with like a floor length gown, like obviously
Speaker 1: the budget through the roof. And it's like it really
Speaker 1: matters what you're exposed to as a child, like those
Speaker 1: instincts can can either flourish or just never gets tapped
Speaker 1: into based on like what you're exposed to as a child.
Speaker 1: That's why it's so important that we have like arts
Speaker 1: and schools. And that takes me panic because I hope
Speaker 1: we're headed in a good direction with that, but who knows.
Speaker 1: I mean we need that, like because thank God that
Speaker 1: you know all that ship like how you're able to
Speaker 1: make a living now. Yeah, And it wasn't just my mom,
Speaker 1: Like I had my elementary school music teacher, Mrs Vandessa
Speaker 1: Kathleen Vandessa, I think that's her first name. She was
Speaker 1: so excellent, Like she would expose this to like she
Speaker 1: would like take class with music and like paint a
Speaker 1: picture for us kind of in our heads, be like
Speaker 1: doesn't this sound like a like a river with salmon
Speaker 1: jumping in or something like that, And I would like
Speaker 1: I knew I had this like deep knowledge of like
Speaker 1: class of music when I was like in second grade.
Speaker 1: I knew like all these composers and I could like
Speaker 1: identify like Beethoven symphonies and stuff, which I can't even
Speaker 1: do anymore, um, but I loved that I could do
Speaker 1: that and one lesson I can remember, like sitting in
Speaker 1: the room. There's this composer in French, composer Na Camille.
Speaker 1: I always mispronounced the second name, last name, say saw
Speaker 1: it's it looks like yeah him. He wrote this piece
Speaker 1: of music called Carnival of the Animals and each piece
Speaker 1: is supposed to sound like an animal. You might see
Speaker 1: it this zoo, like a lion, or um an elephant,
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and that lesson, like I asked my
Speaker 1: mom if we could buy it. It was the first
Speaker 1: CD I ever owned. The first time I ever bought
Speaker 1: was Charlie Brown Christmas, which is the best, But first
Speaker 1: album I ever owned was Carnival the Animals by like
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Philharmonic, I think um led by Marvin Hamlesh
Speaker 1: or that's Pittsburgh, No, Pittsburgh and he was the pops conductor,
Speaker 1: so never mind, but um, yeah, Carnival the Animals. Also
Speaker 1: there's one piece from it called the Aquarium, which is
Speaker 1: supposed sounds like fish and Allan mankin Um totally was
Speaker 1: inspired by that for the Beauty and the Beast score,
Speaker 1: you know the da you know that piece like when
Speaker 1: the roses like yes, yes, yes, like listen to the
Speaker 1: Aquarium from Cardi of the animals, they're almost exactly the same.
Speaker 1: And I'm not like shaming Alan. I think it's like
Speaker 1: awesome that he was is a thief. Alan Macon is
Speaker 1: my other favorite, like cheese. Alan Macon is the other
Speaker 1: part of my childhood. Like I would watch Exposure Disney, yes,
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking to myself, like I feel like I
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying at that, but I don't understand
Speaker 1: how you could be a child or alive exposed to
Speaker 1: the world and not know who the Spice Girls were
Speaker 1: because you'd go went to school and everyone will be
Speaker 1: talking about like I remember the day Britney Spears like hit. However,
Speaker 1: one day there was nothing and then the next day
Speaker 1: there was Britney Spears and everyone was talking about it
Speaker 1: was the honey, this is not like I'm not shaming
Speaker 1: you for this. I think you were a popular kid.
Speaker 1: I was not a popular kid. I was a nerdy kid.
Speaker 1: I was only friends with like nerdy Christian girls, like
Speaker 1: we didn't they weren't listening to Spice Girls or something
Speaker 1: like that. Good point what you're exposed to, Like you
Speaker 1: just said, well, I guess just like well, I mean
Speaker 1: I don't think it had to do with anything with popularity.
Speaker 1: I think like if I was obviously grew up in
Speaker 1: like a Long Island community that was like very influenced
Speaker 1: by the media, I think I mean, like because when
Speaker 1: I went into school, it didn't matter who the funk
Speaker 1: you were. I mean, everyone knew who Britney Spears was.
Speaker 1: It just was not as capable. Um. But if you
Speaker 1: are in a part of the country that like has
Speaker 1: the option to turn away from that for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: that I think that choice could get made and then
Speaker 1: those things wouldn't be a part of your childhood. It's
Speaker 1: just interesting, like the differences, sure, the differences in like upbringing,
Speaker 1: because I would have remember years ago, I went on
Speaker 1: a date with a guy years ago, it's like five
Speaker 1: years ago, and I he asked what pop Roulette did
Speaker 1: our sketch group, and I was like, yeah, we write
Speaker 1: songs about pop culture, Like we just did a sketch
Speaker 1: about Tylor Swift And he was like, who is that?
Speaker 1: And this is like when like speak Now had been out,
Speaker 1: Fearless had been out, Like she was huge, she was
Speaker 1: one of the biggest everyone. I was like, you don't
Speaker 1: know who Taylor Swift as I thought it was a joke,
Speaker 1: but like, I guess that is possible. Yeah, yeah, it's possible.
Speaker 1: After r I p carry Fisher passed away, I saw
Speaker 1: this guy that I know post like I don't know
Speaker 1: who Debbie Reynolds are carry Fisher is? Why is everyone
Speaker 1: so sad? A gay guy? And I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: how like even like I mean even like straight people
Speaker 1: like Star Wars, how can you not know these two women?
Speaker 1: I want to say something that I because the mission
Speaker 1: statement of this podcast, bitch, because Matt and I were
Speaker 1: watching Hair Spray Live and then we were texting our
Speaker 1: friend Joel, and Joel was our other friend Adam's place,
Speaker 1: watching this and Joel would not stop texting me about
Speaker 1: this jerk there who was the gay gay guy? Who
Speaker 1: was like like, who are these people? Who's Queen Latifa?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Jennifer Hudson, I was confusing her for the
Speaker 1: movie up. Who's Who's Who's Jennifer Hudson, Who's Who's Arianagrad?
Speaker 1: Like just what was kind of it seemed like he
Speaker 1: was like aware of he was just very deliberate and
Speaker 1: how like pop culture reverse he was. And he kept
Speaker 1: making that a political thing where he was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't follow pop culture, so there how cool. So
Speaker 1: the mission statement of ours cultural ristas is too is
Speaker 1: to spread the gospel of culture. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: what I think when I was like in middle school,
Speaker 1: I was kind of like that guy. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't like pop houlso I don't know who Janet
Speaker 1: Jackson is. And then this friend John Josh, I think
Speaker 1: he might be married, which is why I'm not saying
Speaker 1: his last name, because, um, he like exposed me to
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson. He was like the beginning of my like
Speaker 1: pop culture world journey. Yeah, you know what Josh was.
Speaker 1: Josh was a big part of Henry knowing when culture
Speaker 1: was for him. Absolutely. Yeah. Aside from like because I'm
Speaker 1: so happy like that I did grow up with like
Speaker 1: all these musicals and like West Side Story was like
Speaker 1: a life changing moment for me. Um, like when I
Speaker 1: first saw that movie. My favorite musical me too. Even
Speaker 1: my dad likes and he's not like a musical theater guy. Um,
Speaker 1: it's the most incredible music I think in the who
Speaker 1: ever written who's the most popular musician that you like?
Speaker 1: Musician well, like instrumentalists. Know what I mean? Is like
Speaker 1: if if there's is there someone that you go to
Speaker 1: bed four in terms of like the diva's the girls?
Speaker 1: Oh of like people that are like in the Arianna ground,
Speaker 1: not like Jill Scott who's kind of like no, she's
Speaker 1: not like she's like like the way the gays get
Speaker 1: behind one, who do you get? No? Actually, I know
Speaker 1: what he's gonna say, my favorite, Well, I think Beyonce
Speaker 1: is better, but my favorite is Rihanna. I love is
Speaker 1: Like you knew I was gonna say that, right. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you said you think Beyonce is better
Speaker 1: because you've said otherwise is a I've said that Rihanna
Speaker 1: is better than I'm more captivated by Rihanna than I
Speaker 1: am Beyonce. You are crucifying your own boyfriend. I'm a
Speaker 1: truth teller, Okay, I'm a seer. Okay, I dragged it out.
Speaker 1: I don't care who gets dragged up from bringing to
Speaker 1: the way Beyonce and I think it's because of like
Speaker 1: how they act outside of like their music career, Like
Speaker 1: Beyonce is so secretive and stuff, which is cool, but
Speaker 1: like Rihanna is funny. Rihanna is funny, and when she's singing,
Speaker 1: I feel like she's not like Beyonce is so rehearsed,
Speaker 1: which is amazing, Like she works so hard to get
Speaker 1: everything perfect. Rihanna. I feel like when you're watching her live,
Speaker 1: you're like something might defend um, but not in like
Speaker 1: a bad way, Like you've really feel like she's there
Speaker 1: in the moment performing. And I think that her voice
Speaker 1: is incredible. It's so rich and deep. And she used
Speaker 1: to not be good, especially in the last album cycle,
Speaker 1: especially with four or five Seconds. Yes, I thought she
Speaker 1: sounds amazing that and then in higher Um and in
Speaker 1: her album Auntie. But yeah, I know, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad answer. I hate that Kelvin Harris song.
Speaker 1: Did she Really? I feel like he did everything I
Speaker 1: like about Rihanna, he sucked out of it and just
Speaker 1: like character because it makes me sad like he collaborated
Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift on it, and Taylor Swift writes those
Speaker 1: things where you don't really need a voice to sing them,
Speaker 1: you just literally yeah, you're right, Like it's just like
Speaker 1: it's just it's just just tones, you know, It's just
Speaker 1: like we found love is another culture stopper in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and uh, so good and so I was excited when
Speaker 1: I saw that she was collaborating with him again, and
Speaker 1: it was such a disappointment. But that's because, Okay, here's
Speaker 1: the difference between we found love and this is what
Speaker 1: you came for, This is what you came for. Us
Speaker 1: trying to is trying to have character where this is
Speaker 1: we found love is deliberately like but but but but
Speaker 1: but but It's like very it feels like Rihanna, this
Speaker 1: is what you came for. It doesn't feel like we
Speaker 1: found love. And also the video where we found amazing,
Speaker 1: it's so good because it feels like Rihanna. It feels dirty,
Speaker 1: it feels raw, it feels like it feels like it
Speaker 1: just got fucked, you know what I mean? Like, whereas
Speaker 1: this is what you came for, it feels like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this is Rihanna playing laying this down in fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: after hearing a probably vocal demo by Taylor Swift. Um
Speaker 1: one song that I think is very underrated that I
Speaker 1: really shop on at the time it came out, um
Speaker 1: is oh how does it go? We we would uh
Speaker 1: pour it up man I when I got super drunk,
Speaker 1: and then when we were walking home or something, we
Speaker 1: hated it at the we hated We just made fun
Speaker 1: of it. We just kept singing out, yeah, we were
Speaker 1: I remember and then someone that someone's in a car
Speaker 1: coming by and they were like that. That's the other
Speaker 1: best part of our Rihanna is her melismas because they're
Speaker 1: so sloppy and just like they're like fat. Her voice
Speaker 1: is like fat in them, Like you know, my favorite voice,
Speaker 1: your voice at the end of the bridge on Rude Boy,
Speaker 1: which is ah, it's like the most magical musical moment
Speaker 1: of pop music in the last time years a flat circle.
Speaker 1: Let's quickly before before we jump into I don't think someone,
Speaker 1: let's quickly talk about this culture stoppers list that Henry creative.
Speaker 1: Now stop the world, world stop on Facebook with this
Speaker 1: culture stoppers um pop music kind of uh poll he did,
Speaker 1: so bunch of votes came in. I find the pulled
Speaker 1: to be a little problematic because I think that a
Speaker 1: lot of songs that are more classic snuck in there,
Speaker 1: like pull up the list. Okay, well here, let's just
Speaker 1: give the outline. So choose as many songs as you like,
Speaker 1: but please be selective as you decide if it is
Speaker 1: a timeless culture stopper, from compare it to I Will
Speaker 1: Always Love You, Will your grandkids know the words to
Speaker 1: the chorus of Hips don't lie the way that we
Speaker 1: know the words to My Girl by the Temptations. The
Speaker 1: survey is not to decide if it is uh, if
Speaker 1: it is a culture stopper. I think we decided these
Speaker 1: are culture stoppers. I think we already decided these are
Speaker 1: culture stoppers. But it is a timeless culture stopper. Again,
Speaker 1: timeless culture stopper. Give the top five from five? Okay,
Speaker 1: top five and this is okay, So with the number,
Speaker 1: I'll also give you the number of votes. A lot
Speaker 1: of people voted in this um number one, Uh. From
Speaker 1: is let's say it together well, number one? Or if
Speaker 1: are you going from five to one? Oh, let's go
Speaker 1: from five to I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. From
Speaker 1: five to one? Number five, we have baby got back, sir.
Speaker 1: Mix a lot with sixty seven, which I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: included because it's from That's what I'm saying, which is
Speaker 1: why it's truly I think huge that like that felt
Speaker 1: so current when I was in eighth grade at the
Speaker 1: school dance and it's playing and it was everyone knew everywhere,
Speaker 1: like it felt like it. That's because it was already
Speaker 1: a classic song. It really doesn't it should be on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, people have gotten not upset, but like sure,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do about it. Let's just
Speaker 1: qualify that, and then I guess within those rules. Number six,
Speaker 1: which might you could consider his number five is My
Speaker 1: Heart Will Go On by Celindion, which classic. Um okay,
Speaker 1: I feel like one of the last great movie songs same,
Speaker 1: you know, not from an animated movie, not from a
Speaker 1: back back when they mattered, right right, right, um okay.
Speaker 1: Number four is with sixty nine votes, is want to
Speaker 1: Be by Ice Girls, which I'm surprised, which I don't
Speaker 1: know if. Oh I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just butchered this. I'm sorry. Number four
Speaker 1: Time by Britney Spears is the next one. Okay. Matt
Speaker 1: and I were at a club in Chicago called Scarlett
Speaker 1: when my favorite club in the whole world. Matt I
Speaker 1: kept hyping this up to Matt and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll see it was good, it was great,
Speaker 1: Right do you put on him me? Maybe one more time?
Speaker 1: After a string of like modern hits, but as soon
Speaker 1: as they may maybe one more time came on. I
Speaker 1: was killed it. This song is the me every day melted. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that deserves to be on there. Ye right,
Speaker 1: done that? Yeah? Um that's with sixty eight votes and
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I spoiled this early want to be votes. Well,
Speaker 1: our grandkids remember the lyrics. I think that they will.
Speaker 1: I think that they will. I feel like it's going
Speaker 1: to develop that same sort of eighties cheese. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that. I just think I think it's it's fun.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be on there if it wasn't deserving. Sure,
Speaker 1: and yeah, as I think eighties cheese is exactly right.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be kind of like the
Speaker 1: time of your life, Like you know that song. It's
Speaker 1: like so corny and and you wouldn't think it'd be
Speaker 1: a culture stopper, but somehow it is. I think it's
Speaker 1: a culture stopper in part because its lyrics are so
Speaker 1: fucking bizarre like and also their energy performing it is
Speaker 1: so uh individual and like crazy. I think it really
Speaker 1: captured a feeling. Let's be real, though, Let's be real,
Speaker 1: little girls. When this song comes on at like a
Speaker 1: wedding or a party, like it's lit like everyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's fun. It's a crowd pleaser. Okay. Next, I
Speaker 1: think this is controversial, yeah, number number two because one
Speaker 1: of he was number three. Number two is with I
Speaker 1: Want to Be and let Go. We're both type for
Speaker 1: number two, so oh let it go. Now. I think
Speaker 1: that we are fresh off this being fucking inescapable, crazy,
Speaker 1: crazy crazy. But I think in ten years it doesn't
Speaker 1: have as many votes as hit Me. Maybe one more time,
Speaker 1: I would I would argue against that. Think about all
Speaker 1: like I've watched I don't know a hundred videos of
Speaker 1: toddlers singing like they're going to carry that with them.
Speaker 1: This song, I would say, is the reason Frozen is
Speaker 1: the highest grossing animated film of all time, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you? Is the song that good? I
Speaker 1: A lot of people talk about why it's bad, and
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like it. And I think that
Speaker 1: if you there's a song and you just like it,
Speaker 1: that there's something good and maybe you don't need to
Speaker 1: put it into words. There's obviously something good about the song,
Speaker 1: like it's it's obviously good. Yeah, and how much of
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to do with adina um yeah, could
Speaker 1: someone else sing it, like even like an amazing vocalst
Speaker 1: like Jennifer Hudson, Like I I think Idina had that
Speaker 1: that musical theater flair mixed with like the I don't
Speaker 1: know she has the right combo even though she can't
Speaker 1: sing alive. I've never heard her sing alive. Well, well,
Speaker 1: she's been a part of three cultural phenomenons like that's
Speaker 1: there's something wait what Wicked, Rent and Frozen like those
Speaker 1: are huge and enchanted, don't forget enchanted. She's been enchanted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Patrick Dempsey's like a girlfriend and chances of the ones
Speaker 1: with Amy Adams, Yeah, she's in that. At the end
Speaker 1: of the movie, Adam's like gets sucked into the cartoon
Speaker 1: world and no one bats an eye. We were await
Speaker 1: Man and I had a bit about this. We were like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like like there must have been a missing
Speaker 1: person's report, no word on what happened to this woman
Speaker 1: who have magically disappeared. Althose sources say she may have
Speaker 1: disappeared into a comic book world and she fell into
Speaker 1: a seward and we're sure she's happy moving on and
Speaker 1: we accept this new person. That's crazy. That's a movie
Speaker 1: I have questions about the logic job anyway, number one
Speaker 1: on this list, which I think is deserved, and also
Speaker 1: it shows up in the results because with eighty nine votes,
Speaker 1: come on Girls, Single Ladies, Ladies. Single Ladies is a
Speaker 1: song that doesn't musically get me going in any way,
Speaker 1: but I do admit it. It's it just makes you
Speaker 1: happy when it comes on. Have you heard it live? Yes? Yes, twice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone every it's it's about. I remember the moment I
Speaker 1: watched Single Ladies. I was walking down St. Mark's. This
Speaker 1: is freshman yeard and my you for us walking down St.
Speaker 1: Mark's and just watching it and girl changed my life.
Speaker 1: That was another thing. It was like before there was
Speaker 1: it was a moment before Single Ladies and after and
Speaker 1: now it's time to stop. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: sing Ladies a little more. I remember like when it happened.
Speaker 1: I love the video and like, yeah, all my gay
Speaker 1: friends and college we're talking about it. And then I
Speaker 1: went to a party with my straight friends and the
Speaker 1: right when we got in the car, they're like, we
Speaker 1: gotta play that new Beyonce song single Ladies. That's what
Speaker 1: I like. My straight friends they were jazz Musicis I
Speaker 1: only hung with like the straight jazz guys and they
Speaker 1: were like, we gotta listen to single ladies. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think everyone loves Beyoncepublicans whatever, which who needs them anyway? Um, okay,
Speaker 1: it's time to stop, it's time to do. Wait, I
Speaker 1: just say one more thing. I'm still I know, I
Speaker 1: know I have to go. But West Side Story huge
Speaker 1: culture thing for me. The other big like life changing
Speaker 1: musical that I saw. I saw my community theater do it,
Speaker 1: the Grand Rapidsific Theater. Sweeney Todd changed my Sondheim at
Speaker 1: an early age. Now that you said that, this is
Speaker 1: I want to shout out my favorite teacher, because you
Speaker 1: shouted out a teacher Jane McGinnis in a p lit
Speaker 1: in twelfth grade. She exposed us to Sweeney Todd and
Speaker 1: Stephen Sondheim. And I will never forget something just turned on.
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, unbelievable. It's the
Speaker 1: best work, I will say, and we can move on.
Speaker 1: I envy early exposure to Sondheim. I wouldn't count. West
Speaker 1: Side Story is like actual, like fully fledged songs. I
Speaker 1: feel like that. And this is another thing about Henry.
Speaker 1: There's another thing about Henry just making people singing, and like,
Speaker 1: I didn't get into Sondheim full fledged son time until
Speaker 1: very recently. This is because Henry's Duplux nights, people will
Speaker 1: go up and just sing them and I'd be like, God,
Speaker 1: this is just beautiful, complex music, and I want to
Speaker 1: know more about this so than I Just after the
Speaker 1: New Year, I watched all of Sunday in the Park
Speaker 1: with George. It's all on YouTube, Manny Ptakan and Bernardett
Speaker 1: Peter's and then there's all of Company and there's all
Speaker 1: of like all these great time Anyway, so you guys
Speaker 1: were there when that guy Larry Owens es Larry I
Speaker 1: hope leave the piano bar at the Duplex every now
Speaker 1: and then, and this guy named Larry Owens who I
Speaker 1: had never met, came in and saying Sunday in the
Speaker 1: Park with George, which you wouldn't think the opening number,
Speaker 1: which you wouldn't think. Ish. Yeah, everyone leapt out of
Speaker 1: their season like he's an amazing to look out for,
Speaker 1: Larry and new friend. I mean, we we connected, we've
Speaker 1: been from I think he's he's sort of like perfectly
Speaker 1: like I mean, now he's gonna be even more in
Speaker 1: the community because he's he's he's getting into the comedy gig.
Speaker 1: Now we have to move on. We're gonna move on
Speaker 1: to your favorite segment. I'm talking about you, the listener.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. This will we take one
Speaker 1: minute to rail against something in culture, anything at all,
Speaker 1: anything that's grinding our gears right now, all the takes
Speaker 1: in tax of culture. We're getting into a honey, all
Speaker 1: the juda day. So, uh, Bone, would you like to
Speaker 1: start or should I? Um? I can start? Okay, we
Speaker 1: have one bit on the clock for Bone young. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Trader Joe's locations in New York City.
Speaker 1: I was in Chicago last week and I went to
Speaker 1: the Trader Joe's on the Diversity and girl, it was
Speaker 1: a spacious, empty, fully stocked Trader Joe's. Could you imagine?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Trader Jos in York with
Speaker 1: the line goes around the fucking shelves. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Trader Jos that don't have the ready to big chicken
Speaker 1: pot pies that I love. They're my favorite thing of
Speaker 1: all time at Trader Joe's, honey, and I never get them.
Speaker 1: I only get them once in a blue moon, when
Speaker 1: when the Trader Jos aren't packed like sardines. But I
Speaker 1: go to Chicago, everything every shelf is fully stocked, and
Speaker 1: it's a bounty. It is a plenty, honey, and the
Speaker 1: lines were short. Every worker, I mean, Trader Joe's workers
Speaker 1: in New York are very nice people, but then were
Speaker 1: the ones in Chicago are just just They don't have
Speaker 1: to have to do with the stress. So I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, Trader just New York's. All of the
Speaker 1: New York locations the Union Square one forget it or
Speaker 1: get it. I used to think that was normal and
Speaker 1: I that was acceptable, but I do not accept it anymore.
Speaker 1: I only go to the one that is on Court
Speaker 1: Street in Brooklyn. I don't think so, honey. He comes
Speaker 1: against the chain that has traded. Joseph gives us ally
Speaker 1: SA good location for me because it's the first time
Speaker 1: I ever bought wine by myself. Sure, I mean like
Speaker 1: I will never I will always think you'd be grateful
Speaker 1: for that because likewise, but no, not anymore, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: great Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey, time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The Golden Globes giving Damien
Speaker 1: Shaws l a Screenplay Award for La La Lad. Now, look, bitch,
Speaker 1: I think La La Land is good for many many reasons.
Speaker 1: I think Emma Stone gagged me to death, and you
Speaker 1: know what I'll come for you, anyone. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: say that Emma Stone wasn't right here in this part,
Speaker 1: because guess what, when you put a camera in your face,
Speaker 1: you better be able to act in honey, I don't
Speaker 1: want to see Laura Ostens on screen with the camera
Speaker 1: in her face. You know what, You'll be gagged when
Speaker 1: it goes to Broadway and you can see here's the
Speaker 1: fool's who dreams sung in that beautiful voice. Well, guess
Speaker 1: what this is on film, girl friends, and you need
Speaker 1: a different flavor. That said, her acting and the acting
Speaker 1: of the other people in the movie, and the direction
Speaker 1: of Damian very good director almost almost almost doesn't even
Speaker 1: matter because the script is bad. Bitch. Okay twice in
Speaker 1: the movie, Oh No, I forgot I had this thing
Speaker 1: is a huge plot point. No screenplane, no might be
Speaker 1: if I lit on fire in that moment that it
Speaker 1: was handed that golden globe. Also, the fight they have
Speaker 1: is the most infuriating fight ever. You're deliberately not saying
Speaker 1: what you want. It was like watching a car wrect
Speaker 1: happen on purpose, La, and you don't deserve the best screenplay, Oscar.
Speaker 1: Don't even think about it, Oscar. Oh, and that I
Speaker 1: don't think so many. That's for the longest. I don't
Speaker 1: think so many. That's been a record a minute in
Speaker 1: five seconds. Well, I had a lot to say, and
Speaker 1: can you believe I have more to say about it?
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe another episode, another episode will follow up. We'll
Speaker 1: do it. Shouldn't be winning scripting awards. Girlfriend, you guys
Speaker 1: have to have another episode with another music theater person
Speaker 1: and talk about sometime because there's so much. There's so
Speaker 1: much there and or but I know there are people
Speaker 1: that know a lot more about them than me, and
Speaker 1: I want to hear that person. We want to know.
Speaker 1: We want to know what you think right now and
Speaker 1: I don't think so okay, can't wait? Can I? Can?
Speaker 1: I do? You've done this for where I had three
Speaker 1: seconds or seconds gonna switch to almost did that and
Speaker 1: then we decided not to it. But we'll do it
Speaker 1: for you. We'll do it for you. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. It's maybe
Speaker 1: I'll ignore it and just keep going on the same,
Speaker 1: all right, rights, I don't think is an iconic moment.
Speaker 1: It starts right now. I don't think so, honey, Jim class,
Speaker 1: it is the worst class. It has been made fun
Speaker 1: like it's in movies for the past four decades of
Speaker 1: like nerdy kids just hating gym class because there's evil
Speaker 1: jocks and bullies or like bitchy girls that are awful
Speaker 1: bitchy boys to pitchy is for everyone, and uh and
Speaker 1: it is not physical education. It is competitive sports education.
Speaker 1: And I hate a gym class so much that I stopped.
Speaker 1: I avoided physical activity all for everything because it was
Speaker 1: like such a tormenting thing in my life. And I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going. And uh, oh my god, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I hate Jim class so much. You should
Speaker 1: be teaching kids how to be healthy. Teach them why
Speaker 1: the way they move makes them healthy, Teach them about
Speaker 1: eating healthy, teach them how like calories work. Don't make
Speaker 1: us play basketball with jocks and I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Like some kids are nerdy and they can't handle and
Speaker 1: and also our society like lifts sports up so much
Speaker 1: so the kids that are good in gym class are revered,
Speaker 1: and the kids that are bad, even if you're really
Speaker 1: good at music or something, you are just like vilified
Speaker 1: and like made fun of. Jim. Class needs to change.
Speaker 1: And Okay, sorry, I don't think so, honey, gym classes
Speaker 1: and as there was real passion behind that. I feel
Speaker 1: like both Henry and my father's are physical education. But
Speaker 1: and I have talked to my dad about this, and
Speaker 1: my dad, I know he puts effort into like making
Speaker 1: sure the kids that aren't into it, like are having
Speaker 1: a good time and not being mocked. Also, like locker
Speaker 1: rooms need to be supervised. The ship that happens in
Speaker 1: rooms is just scarlet terrible, traumatic sexual harassment, bullying. The
Speaker 1: way that seventh grade boys will talk about girls talk
Speaker 1: about just disgusting. That's where it starts. That's whip it
Speaker 1: in a but you need to have a supervisor in there.
Speaker 1: It's bad. It look really bad. This gym class talk
Speaker 1: that Jim class, I don't think so many first of all, iconic, Second,
Speaker 1: of all coming from the picture of health Henry Koperski. Truly,
Speaker 1: you get somebody to eat kale, you cannot. So if
Speaker 1: Henry is telling you that he hated fitness as a
Speaker 1: child or the idea the trimmings that come with fitness
Speaker 1: as a child, and it had to he had to
Speaker 1: undo years of that to get to where he is today,
Speaker 1: that is real, Mama. That is culture. I think it's
Speaker 1: definitely problematic. I think it's all about like this kind
Speaker 1: of like traditional toxic masculine masculinity. And there's still gym
Speaker 1: teachers who will have like captains choose their team like
Speaker 1: it's RuPaul's Dragons with kids, and then there's like poor
Speaker 1: kids that are chosen last and that scars them for
Speaker 1: like it's really like terrible and it happens every day.
Speaker 1: You know what. Some of the gym teachers get off
Speaker 1: on it. I'm sure they should. They should be not fired,
Speaker 1: but demerited. And I know that for some kids that's
Speaker 1: the only place they shine is the gymnasi shore, which
Speaker 1: is so that's good for them, but you need to
Speaker 1: make it work for everyone. And we also need to
Speaker 1: help those kids that shine in gym, like find love
Speaker 1: for like academics too, and I don't know. It's I
Speaker 1: agree also because like so what you were great as
Speaker 1: you were great at sports in high school. That doesn't
Speaker 1: take you very far. I mean unless it does which
Speaker 1: unless it does which good for you. You're in the
Speaker 1: less than one percent. It's just two prioritized. UM. I
Speaker 1: say that with love for um the act of running,
Speaker 1: jumping and leaping. UM, I have to say, this has
Speaker 1: to be we have to come to an end. Henry
Speaker 1: has a show to go to. He's going to go
Speaker 1: perform in Ha ha Wow from Our Doctor's hosted by
Speaker 1: Nicole Silverberg. It's a great lineup tonight. You should always
Speaker 1: go to see this show. Um. Sunday night, I do
Speaker 1: want to say, I want to pug this show. Nicole
Speaker 1: Silverberg is hosting a charity show for Fountain House at
Speaker 1: Union Hall. Check that out. I think this is a
Speaker 1: really good charity and I want people to go to it.
Speaker 1: It's it's just a really good thing. It's it's a
Speaker 1: good example of putting positivity and and wellness in the world.
Speaker 1: And I really want to shout that out. And when
Speaker 1: last plug for me and Matt Um we have the
Speaker 1: final final truly final performance of our popuar lecture that's
Speaker 1: been running an ECB called Amazing Earth. It's on January,
Speaker 1: same night as a Little Night Music. Henry still make
Speaker 1: it a UCB night. You come see us earlier in
Speaker 1: the night. Then you hop on over to see amazing
Speaker 1: talent um singing and doing their thing and having a
Speaker 1: great time. And thank Henry, You're the best. I love
Speaker 1: I love both of you so much. It's awesome to
Speaker 1: be on here. Yes, buffle, but I am only a
Speaker 1: platonic And I'm so excited for Chrissie Shackelford. I've been
Speaker 1: waiting for this episode. Tell the time. When is Chrissy
Speaker 1: gonna be on next episode? Honey, It'll be historic. It's
Speaker 1: gonna become reality. Alright, Bye, guys, everyone kissing to the mic.
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