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Speaker 1: Lost Culture is just calling hello, fool, Hello, fool. You

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Speaker 1: foolishly but thankfully turned into another episode of Last Culture.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like the culture we live in now, culture,

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Speaker 1: fantastic show, so fun, and I really think that it's

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Speaker 1: I also mean you might have recognized him from Live

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Speaker 1: feeling a little insane, you must question it. And I

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00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: do think a lot of this has to do with

428
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Speaker 1: the fact that I will We'll go ahead and totally

429
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Speaker 1: admit that I have an addiction to it. I am

430
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: addicted to Facebook, and uh, it's making me crazy. I mean,

431
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: I had to fight the urge today to go on

432
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: at several times so I could write the script that

433
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: I've been talking about writing for months and I'm almost

434
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: done with it. But the thing is, like I had

435
00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 1: to actively break down. I had, I had, I had.

436
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: Actually it's the noble where I was in tears yesterday,

437
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: like you know, it's just and I know that it's

438
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: not my fault. I mean were We had our friend

439
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: Zach Grander Harris over last night to watch Henry on

440
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: Tonight Show and he said, you know, this isn't your fault.

441
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's it's not your fault that like

442
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: everyone in the world uses this thing, and it's like

443
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 1: this resource that's that's there and you're expected to use

444
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: and especially when you're everyone wants to because they're constantly

445
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: taking your data and using it for or against you.

446
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: And you know what it's it's designed to be a

447
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: part of your life, and it's designed to be ingreened

448
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 1: in your life. But the fact of the matter is

449
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: it is not food. It is not water, it is

450
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: not oxygen, it is not sheltered you not not needed

451
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 1: to survive. And I would almost challenge people to get

452
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: off of it, because I really might. I'm still wrestling

453
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: with myself because then today it was an easier day,

454
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: so I was on it and like I loved seeing

455
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 1: everyone sharing the video of you and it was such

456
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: a positive moment. I was like, yes, like maybe it

457
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: can be the us again. And I also don't want

458
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: people to think that I'm running scared from like reality

459
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: or like information, that it just might not be mentally

460
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: healthy for me. Right, So, um, you're mentioning how Facebook

461
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 1: is not food or water. Um, I only eat if

462
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: I blog onto Facebook a certain number of times a day. Um,

463
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: and that's how, that's how, that's how my body is it.

464
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: It has to happen that way, Um, Matt, I think no,

465
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: you know what, You're absolutely right, Henry, are you? Because okay,

466
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: I think the three of us have just use Facebook

467
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: for similar reasons, which is, but you know what, Henry,

468
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: that's the same thing I think about. The number one

469
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: thing I think about when I think about quitting Facebook

470
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: is saying, oh, you know what I would miss is yeah,

471
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: and not only for your own shows. Like one of

472
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: my two thousand seventeen goals is to go see other

473
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: people's shows more. And so I've been making a point

474
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: every time one of our friends says my show is

475
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: this day, I put it in my calendar right away,

476
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: and if I'm free that night, I'm gonna go. Like

477
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: Christie Shackelford, Yeah, one of her final shows on Friday Friday,

478
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: I believe it's Friday Friday tomorrow. Yeah, as in tomorrow. Yes, yes,

479
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: you're posted about it today. Well, you know what, continue talking.

480
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I get the right next week. Um.

481
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: Is Asian pop, which is like Maya and Iliana and

482
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: the Small People. I don't know show new show, first

483
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: show Halle has like and I wouldn't know about them

484
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: because I didn't get an email from them, and and

485
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: it's not like they need to start an email change

486
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: just for the people get on Facebook. It's hard to know.

487
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: Like that's just as important. Yeah, like I want to

488
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: be promoted to from certain people at least totally. Yeah,

489
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: it is the thirteenth Chrissie's show is Okay, Diane Trianguarila

490
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: at ucb Janu. She will be our next guest Another

491
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: Light in the World, True Light, my pal. Well, but

492
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: see that's the thing. It's like, Oh, I guess technically

493
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: what Matt saying is that you could like go on

494
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: Instagram and it's cross promoted in some cases. But if

495
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: we all decided to use Instagram that way, which I

496
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: know that's not the way you use Instagram. And I'm

497
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: also I'm not advocating for this revolution away from Facebook.

498
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying if you're feeling like me, and you're

499
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: feeling a little overwhelmed by everything and a little watched

500
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: and a little bit like crazy, um, you can take

501
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: a break. And I spoke to a couple of people

502
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: and that have taken a break and it's been really

503
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: good for them. And I actually everyone that I've spoken

504
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: to that that stopped using it, Um, they said it

505
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: was good for them. Actually raved about not being Yeah,

506
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: I believe Anthony King he used to artistic direct ucb

507
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: here wrote this. I think it was probably like some

508
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: self publishic medium article about how he just is basically

509
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: off Twitter just just because of the news aspect of it.

510
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: He does not want to feel constantly angry. It's because

511
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: you guys aren't journalists, you know what I mean? Like

512
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: I think, I think, Um, it's what do you mean?

513
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: You guys are journaling like all y'all on Facebook. You're

514
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: not journalists. And I understand. I think that, Um, when

515
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: it's on Facebook, it is filtered because it's in your voice.

516
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: And when you do go on Facebook, you are seeing

517
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: a feed of people that you selected to give you information,

518
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: and that is a filtered thing. So I would also

519
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: be interested to see what it was, what it would

520
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: be like if I just got my news from the news,

521
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because that's not how I've

522
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: existed in this world. I don't know about like our

523
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: listeners and out there. I don't know about you guys,

524
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: but the way I've gotten news, in the way I've

525
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: heard about things is the View, but also Facebook, but

526
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: no lines. During the O eight election, I watched the

527
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: View every day. I watched the View every day, and

528
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: Henry hates the View. I don't hate it. I just

529
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm so happy we're talking about the View? Can we

530
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: talking about the View? I just we've We've mentioned this

531
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: so many times in the show before, but truly, there

532
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: will never be a moment on TV again ever, like

533
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: Sherry Shepherd thinking the world is flat or not being

534
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 1: sure if the world is flat? Isn't that why we

535
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: why we should hoist them? Let me let me just

536
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: not anymore because the people in the View now suck.

537
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: I want to finish my thought about this news thing

538
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: because I don't want to just leave it technic. I'm just,

539
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm interested in the idea of not hearing

540
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: about uh, the Russian interference by hearing about golden showers,

541
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Hashtag gold showers on Facebook.

542
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: I'm interested in and maybe watching Rachel Maddow and you

543
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: know what, and not and not hearing about what you

544
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: have to say about Rachel Maddow. While I love, while

545
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: I love hearing that, I would also love to watch

546
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: what she says. You know, we have cable now, I

547
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: can watch television. I can source things out myself. Maybe

548
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: the Facebook won't be the first website I go to

549
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: from now on, Maybe it will be a news source

550
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: that I trust. Yeah, we stop talking about Facebook. It's

551
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: really making me anxious. And you've been talking about it

552
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: so much. Like yeah, I don't know if because like

553
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: interjected like this, but that's okay, We're not talking my Facebook.

554
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: I will say one more thing re Rachel Maddow. I've

555
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: never been talking about the View, Okay, I have no

556
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: opinions on the view. Also just saying that too, I

557
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: do have opinions on Rachel Maddow, which is this. I've

558
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: had people tell me that like me not shutting the

559
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: funk up about Rachel Maadow has has helped them listen

560
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: to Rachel Mandow has every day, definitely. But I think

561
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm rolling that back. And even today over

562
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: the phone with something with someone, uh like I was

563
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: talking to someone and they were like, oh, yeah, well,

564
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to enjoy this last week of Obama

565
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: being president, and I was like, yep, yep, yep, it's tough. Uh.

566
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: And then I was telling them about how like much

567
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: of a jerk I've been over the phone to my representatives,

568
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, yeah, I saw on Facebook.

569
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: And then for some reason he got very self conscious,

570
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: like I was being too seen. And it's that it's

571
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: that like brand persona thing where it's like, oh wait,

572
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: and then I immediately sort of like, yeah, just defending

573
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: myself got defense and I was like, oh, you know what,

574
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: I think I've I need to roll it back because

575
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: I've been a little too militant anyway. Um, but it's

576
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: interesting to hear that you don't want to you don't

577
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: necessarily want to listen to me talk about Rachel, but

578
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: you want to watch Rachel Nado. Right, That's what I'm saying.

579
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: I just I just want I want my information like

580
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: from the source a little bit more as much as

581
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: as much as you can get that nowadays. But to

582
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 1: be like, oh, look, Bowen's talking about this thing that

583
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: I also listened to, and it is sharing with other people.

584
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: That is, yeah, if I had listened to it. But

585
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I'm getting the majority of my

586
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: news from this website, and I don't want to do this.

587
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: This isn't even this isn't even bigger zoom out from

588
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: like red feet, blue feet. It's like meta information. Okay,

589
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: let's not talk about Facebook anymore. Um the view, Oh

590
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: my god, Henry doesn't like it. It drives some nuts,

591
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 1: but I also understand why it drives. It's just like

592
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: watching people argue, you know, when like none of them

593
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: are experts on it. No. Do you know what really

594
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: made me feel shitty was when they were talking about

595
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: Maria the year. Come on, It's like, none of you

596
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: were singer. It's nothing, you know what. It's like, Oh wait,

597
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. So this is our first episode

598
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: of the New Year. The three of us, I think,

599
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: are all on the same page about Maria and what

600
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: happened on New Year's all the way and look what if?

601
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: What a good sport she was by just going out

602
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: there and being like, wow, I can't do anything about

603
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: this fucking thing. So kind of like people are saying

604
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: she was like being sassy or unappreciative. When you're at

605
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: that level of stardom, it would be like embarrassing for

606
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: her to like be really shy and embarrassed. It was

607
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: like she owned it and was like things are falling apart,

608
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: and it's kind of funny, Like I thought she handled

609
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: it perfectly to me too, Oh my god. And to

610
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: end that whole fucking thing with the line doesn't get

611
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: any better than this is. So I'm fucking good. And

612
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: do the left, I mean do the lift just for laughs.

613
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: And I am not a Mariah fan. I've like really

614
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: rarely cared. It's not that I don't like her, I

615
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: just don't care. Music has never really gotten to me.

616
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: Maybe a few key tracks right, but overall, like I

617
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: can name three songs tops like I don't stand that's

618
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: why you don't love Mariah. But but that's I'm saying,

619
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: that's why it's big that for this New Year's Eve thing,

620
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, no, she's fine, it's fine. Yeah, yeah,

621
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: oh my god. Henry had never heard the song. By all, look,

622
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: I will I will admit that I never really grew

623
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: up with Mariah in the same way that a lot

624
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: of other people did for me. Like that, It's interesting,

625
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: isn't it that the Mariah shaped hole was filled for

626
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: me by Selene? Like I was like I don't care

627
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: for other people. That's what happened, which I just like

628
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: a very childish thing to think. But now, what's interesting,

629
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: Even as a young gay, I felt the need to

630
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: stand behind just one of them, right, did you? Because

631
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,239
Speaker 1: you you? Who did you love as a child? As

632
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: a child, was there a pop tva that you love?

633
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: I got really into Janet Jackson. I didn't know that

634
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: about you. That's cool. And I wasn't in the pop

635
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: music all because I was very sheltered, Like I listened

636
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: to like classical music and jazz and like music theater.

637
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: That's it. Um. And then I got to sixth grade

638
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: and there's this kid named josh Oh I won't say

639
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: his last name who I he is obsessed was obsessed

640
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: to Janet Jackson, and he like introduced me to her

641
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: like we were. I think he's probably gay. I haven't

642
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: seen him like since eighth grade, but I think he's

643
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: probably gay NOWT and I think we were bonding exactly.

644
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: I think we're We became like pretty good friends whose

645
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: were both gay, and he like changed my world, like

646
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: he would make me listen to stuff, he would make

647
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: me watch music videos and I didn't know she went

648
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: like I know who Michael Jackson is because like you

649
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: can't avoid that. Um and yeah, for a good reason.

650
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: He's amazing. Um. But yeah, like it was so different

651
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: than anything I had been exposed to, and I was like, yes,

652
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: I love Janet Jackson now and like became really into it.

653
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: Which Janet was that this is like all for you,

654
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Um, like yeah, so this would have

655
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: been who I was in sixth grade? Interesting yeah, um

656
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: yeah she was huge at that point, it was, and

657
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: it was like a revival. Yeah. And I wasn't allowed

658
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: to watch PG thirteen movie until I was thirteen, but

659
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: my friend Josh showed me The Nutty Professor and stuff

660
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: amazing and which was like I had never seen a

661
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: comedy like that. I hadn't see a comedy that wasn't

662
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: like Disney or something, and and it was like it

663
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: was insane to see. And I didn't know who Eddie

664
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: Murphy was. Like I was very sheltered as a kid.

665
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: Would you bring up because because it's because of January

666
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: it's your first PG thirteen movie that you saw, No,

667
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, oh really is she? Even in the

668
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: movie she's the love interest of the Clumps, which I

669
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: can't say the word the clumps with that laughing, and

670
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: I never the way the reason I saw the clumps,

671
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: it's because one day I was just let me the

672
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: title of this episode. No no, no, no no, we'll

673
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: figure it out. It's not worthy of our guest. But

674
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: the title of the episode is he makes us um Okay.

675
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: But the reason I saw the clumps is because one

676
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: day I was just like sitting in my house and

677
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: my dad was like, hey, get in the car. I

678
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: was like okay. He's like, we're going to go see

679
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: the clumps, like okay, And my dad had never done this, never.

680
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: But one thing about my dad that actually I'm remembering

681
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: now is he actually is a huge Eddie Murphy fan.

682
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: First album was Eddie Murphy's comedy album. So he's like

683
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: an Eddie Murphy fan going all the way back. I

684
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: don't think he's seen like Norbit, but like Which is

685
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: a great movie. It's fantastically any any movie where the

686
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: character named rest, I mean that's for me, but anyway, uh, anyway,

687
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: so he I think loves Eddie Murphy and just put

688
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: me in the car and we want to go see it.

689
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: And then there's that one scene where like the the

690
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: like one of the weird white guys gets like asked

691
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: by that hamster, I've never seen it. Oh, you need

692
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: to see the clubs now. It is a comedic to

693
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: force I want to go home, smokable and just watch

694
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: nor again. Can we do that? Like tonight? My god?

695
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: We should no, wait, not nor but though we should

696
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: find a way to get the clumps? No, I no,

697
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't want. I don't I've actually never seen Norbit

698
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: and I kind of refused. I've never seen Okay, how

699
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: can you expect me to watch the clumps but you

700
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: refused to watch the clumps? Is actual quality? Because Norbit

701
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: is actual quality? Okay, this is guy listeners, help us

702
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: weigh in on this. Please Norbitt versus not any professor

703
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: to the clumps? Which is better? Okay, let's keep going.

704
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: You know what else is in that I liked at

705
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: the time when I saw it is why did they

706
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: get married? Too? By Tyler Perry, which also has Jill Scott,

707
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: who is my current favorite. Yeah, that's who Henry loves

708
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: is my number one. I would have the same reaction

709
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: to meeting her as Michelle explain why, because Henry has

710
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: a very interesting taste yes, yes. When you listen to

711
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Jill Scott's music, it is all her. She writes every word,

712
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: she writes every note. She's a fantastic musician. Um. She

713
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: started out as an English teacher in Philly and was

714
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: teaching poetry, and she started writing her own and she

715
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: started going to jams and stuff, and she'd always been

716
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: a talented vocalist and stuff. And then I can't remember

717
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: who discovered her. I think Erica Bad discovered her. They're

718
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: really good friends. And um, you also love Eric and

719
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: I love Eric. Oh my god. Yeah, I've seen Erica

720
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: four times live. I've seen Jill once because she rarely

721
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: comes to New York. Um. She did New Year's Eve

722
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: at Radio City and it was I was poor at

723
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: the time and couldn't go, but I'm she's the best.

724
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: When I did see her, I just cried the whole time. Like,

725
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: and her albums don't do like I think they're really good,

726
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: like easy listening, like they're really relaxing and just the

727
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: most amazing beats and stuff. But she doesn't like go

728
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: in with the vocals. When you see her live, she

729
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: is one of the best vocalists I've ever heard. She

730
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: has like the range of an opera singer, but like

731
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: the soul of you know, a soul singer rum and

732
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: then she like takes from all types of genres and

733
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: puts them. She is so when I see her live,

734
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: the one time I saw our live, it was life changing.

735
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: Um did you really watch her show on HBO? It

736
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: was called Number one Ladies at Text. Yes, it was,

737
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: like I think, beloved by critics, but it did only

738
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: last one season and Nika Noni Rose was on it.

739
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: And who's also incredible. Come forth, come forth, come forth?

740
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: That is in the front the front runner for the

741
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: title of this epod. We've said this before, we come forth.

742
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: We said, you know who else you've said come forth

743
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 1: about on what it's called ristas Katherine Keener. We said,

744
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: come forth Katherine Keener. Anyway, Um, yeah, I I we

745
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: I listened. We listened to a little bit of Jill

746
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: Scott here and there, um, and I like her. I

747
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: don't really get her track on the Hamilton mixtape. She

748
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 1: just does. Can't say no to this, but she thinks

749
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: perspective of yeah, I liked to listen. No, wait, is

750
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: this true? Though? She does she range her own stuff too.

751
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: I believe she does a lot of that here. She

752
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: has people she works with, but she like it's her

753
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: ideas and stuff, and um, I've listened to tons of

754
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: live recordings and she always is really unique. I've never

755
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: like one of her most famous songs, and my favorite

756
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: song is Golden And every live performance is totally different,

757
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: not even different like tempo, like different genres. She has

758
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: like one where she does as like a samba, or

759
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: she has one where she's like an insanely slow like

760
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: jazz ballot, and then she'll like or it's so cool,

761
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: She's so amazing, and she gets the best musicians, like incredible.

762
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: They're all jazz musicians playing like R and B and stuff,

763
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: which is like the best package jazz musicians playing R

764
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: and B and Oh it's so good. And you know

765
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: who else is amazing live? Lauren Hill. I've seen her.

766
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: I've seen her three times, and one time I saw her,

767
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: she was singing I think everything what is that one?

768
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: Everything is everything? Everything is everything? Yeah, and she like

769
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: had her backup singers like keep singing this like um, Austin,

770
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: not Sonana, but like this repetitive phrase and slowly she

771
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: made each person in the band drop out. She like

772
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: pointed the drummer and like do like the like kill

773
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: herself signed and then stopped, and so it's just the

774
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: backup singers. And then she took the backup singers like

775
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: she put her finger to her ear and then like

776
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: gesture to one of them and singing and be like

777
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: saying this, no, no, saying this, and she would change

778
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: the chords they were singing and like make weird modulations happen,

779
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: and it morphed into like just this weird like avant

780
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: garde like soul music thing, just her and her three

781
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: backup singers, and then slowly she would sneak in the

782
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: other instruments again and it would like be a different song.

783
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: It was sounds amazing. Just you hearing you describe that

784
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: is incredible. She's so good and her band is incredible.

785
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: Didn't you meet her keyboardists recently? I met someone that

786
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: plays keys for her yet where I worked with them

787
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: at the ride. Oh wow, yeah, I got real super

788
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: cool guy Tom. I probably saw for Lauren and that

789
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: she's amazing and also getting out of jail soon and

790
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: that she's gonna hopefully begin creating music again hopefully. Also

791
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: u CEB Comedies Matt Rubano is the bass player on

792
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: Miseducation of Lauren Hill. Phenomenal. It's not nuts. That's my

793
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: favorite thing about him. He's a great guy. But like

794
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,959
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, that's like one of his She said

795
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: the second thing, what's your second favorite thing about him?

796
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: His stage president, musician. He's a very talented like actor,

797
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: comedy guy. He is. M Oh, my god, so I guess,

798
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: but maybe we can go into this thing. You know what, though,

799
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: I think this is a good opportunity to ask Henry

800
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: about I was going to say beginning that, Henry, this

801
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: is the question we ask all of our guests. I'm

802
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: sure you know what culture did you grow up with

803
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: and what were some of the cultural relics that made

804
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: you say culture is for me? Um My mother was

805
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: like my culture curator. To a guy come out, I

806
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: was like very sheltered. Again, like I didn't know, like

807
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: about the Spice Girls until like five years after they

808
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: were a thing. You know. Oh my mom is a

809
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: color tour soprano and she travels all over the country.

810
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: She's international tours and stuff as a classical solo as

811
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: she's sung with major symphonies around the world. I'm so

812
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: proud of her. She's amazing and what's her name, what's

813
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: her first name, Diane her stage and she's so amazing,

814
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: and I'm so proud of her. And sometimes I get

815
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: I've like cried before because I feel guilty that she

816
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: had me and my brothers, because it prevented her from

817
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: becoming like a household. Like I think she's about my mom.

818
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: I think my mom could have been like Laura Osmes

819
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: my mom all of my mom's I'm sorry, just just

820
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: all of my mom's college friends friends from med school

821
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: say that if my mom had stayed in China, she

822
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: would have been the surgeon general, like that, the equivalent

823
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: of this. She was the best student and at the

824
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: best medical school in all of China, and then she

825
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: moved to America, Like I would not have been born

826
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: in China, sure with the one child only policy because

827
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: I'm the second. Oh wow, So I just get I

828
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: get a weird existential thing where it's like, like I

829
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: exist at the expense of my mom's career. But it's

830
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: okay's interesting that you feel this way. Yeah, I wish

831
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: my mom had moved to New York. I kind of

832
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: auditioned for Broadwa because she's that good and she's a

833
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: great actress to like she would do community theater. When

834
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: I was a little kid, she was in the music Man,

835
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: which is a huge cultural thing. I knew every word

836
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: every song Man. When I was three, she was marrying

837
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: and she was also an Annie and I think she

838
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: played grace. Um. That's when I was really young. But

839
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: I still like, my favorite song of all time is

840
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: maybe from Annie. It's because like it's one of the

841
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: first songs I learned. Your favorite musical too, um, And

842
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: Annie's my favorite musical because it's the first like music

843
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: I was introduced to because I would hear my mom

844
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: practicing it or I don't know. Um. Yeah, she's amazing

845
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: and I wish and she's still working, like she tours still,

846
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: and she has an amazing new musical partner that is

847
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: doing some like jazz stuff where like she's so good.

848
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Speaker 1: I love my mother. I I saw a video of

849
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: Henry and and Diane playing on the piano together and oh,

850
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: beautiful video one. But Henry will say that that that

851
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: he was terrible or something. I no, no, no, I mean, yeah,

852
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: I mess up a lot, but it's fine. Like she

853
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: I will also say, is such a good pianist, and

854
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of that because she's not known for

855
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: it all. When I was a little kid, she taught

856
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: piano lessons all the time and she would this is

857
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: like early culture stuff, Like she would play like Beethoven

858
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: Sinatis for me and like point out stuff. I would

859
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: sit next to her on the bench and she'd be like,

860
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: isn't this part cool? How it does this and stuff

861
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: like that, and it like totally just like gave me

862
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm obsessed with class music still, and um, even

863
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: though like I don't perform it at all because you

864
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: have to commit to me, a classmal musician need to

865
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: practice like five hours a day and stuff, um, which

866
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: I could never do. But I still have appreciation because

867
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: of her and um. And even before the first like

868
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: movie I would watch consistently is Mozart. It's the Magic

869
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: Flute in German and because she would put on before

870
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: I could even speak English, and and I it's you

871
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: know Mozart, so it's incredible. It's this isn't good for

872
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: your listeners. If you want to get into opera a

873
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: good like Gateway opera, is am I using that word correctly,

874
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: is the magic flute? It's like a comedy, but it's

875
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: also like very like fantastic as in like fantasy like

876
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: dreamy and saying there's dragons and kings and queens and um.

877
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: But it's also really oh my god, well it's at

878
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: the this month actually um for but the like lead

879
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: is like this famous Russian guy, so it's like a

880
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: thousand dollars will take out, which is like why opera

881
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: is dying because who can do that? Um? But the

882
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Magic Flute disaber flauta or something in German is uh

883
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: an amazing opera. That's the that's I'm sorry, that's the title.

884
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: But for pointing out my producer Alex, let's please translate

885
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: that and Google translate German for the Magic Free Okay, yeah,

886
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: it's um and it's also one of the only or

887
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: not only, but like most operas were written in Italian

888
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: no matter what the composer was, but Mozart wrote it

889
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: in German, which is kind of like huge as well

890
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: because he was awesome. I have to interact and site.

891
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: I had an idiot music teacher in seventh grade that

892
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: told me every opera was was in English. He's like,

893
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, every opera is in English. The reason you

894
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: can't understand the words, just because they're singing it so classically,

895
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: and and we all went for it. I don't know

896
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: if he was working with us, he seemed genuine. I

897
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: don't think there were any English this was maybe totally wrong,

898
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: any English operas to like the nineteen hundreds Benjamin Brand,

899
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: not according to Mr or whatever the fun wow, but

900
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: he legitimately told us that. And as you're saying that,

901
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 1: shaking my head thinking about like how there was literally

902
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: robbed of an an opera. You know, it's just fascinating

903
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: to me because like it's like with anything, like you

904
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: have had an exposure to that kind of thing, like

905
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But like for me where

906
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: I grew up, it was all about sports and then

907
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: other communities, you know, Like I had a friend um

908
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: who in college who was She went to a high

909
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: school in Texas and obviously they're all about sports there

910
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: as well, But the budget for the theater program was

911
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: like over the top, like pictures of her in the

912
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: scarlet pimpernel with like a floor length gown, like obviously

913
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: the budget through the roof. And it's like it really

914
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: matters what you're exposed to as a child, like those

915
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: instincts can can either flourish or just never gets tapped

916
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: into based on like what you're exposed to as a child.

917
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: That's why it's so important that we have like arts

918
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: and schools. And that takes me panic because I hope

919
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: we're headed in a good direction with that, but who knows.

920
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean we need that, like because thank God that

921
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: you know all that ship like how you're able to

922
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: make a living now. Yeah, And it wasn't just my mom,

923
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Like I had my elementary school music teacher, Mrs Vandessa

924
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: Kathleen Vandessa, I think that's her first name. She was

925
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: so excellent, Like she would expose this to like she

926
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: would like take class with music and like paint a

927
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: picture for us kind of in our heads, be like

928
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: doesn't this sound like a like a river with salmon

929
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: jumping in or something like that, And I would like

930
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: I knew I had this like deep knowledge of like

931
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: class of music when I was like in second grade.

932
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: I knew like all these composers and I could like

933
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: identify like Beethoven symphonies and stuff, which I can't even

934
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: do anymore, um, but I loved that I could do

935
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: that and one lesson I can remember, like sitting in

936
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: the room. There's this composer in French, composer Na Camille.

937
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: I always mispronounced the second name, last name, say saw

938
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: it's it looks like yeah him. He wrote this piece

939
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: of music called Carnival of the Animals and each piece

940
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: is supposed to sound like an animal. You might see

941
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: it this zoo, like a lion, or um an elephant,

942
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and that lesson, like I asked my

943
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: mom if we could buy it. It was the first

944
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: CD I ever owned. The first time I ever bought

945
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: was Charlie Brown Christmas, which is the best, But first

946
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: album I ever owned was Carnival the Animals by like

947
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Philharmonic, I think um led by Marvin Hamlesh

948
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: or that's Pittsburgh, No, Pittsburgh and he was the pops conductor,

949
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: so never mind, but um, yeah, Carnival the Animals. Also

950
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: there's one piece from it called the Aquarium, which is

951
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: supposed sounds like fish and Allan mankin Um totally was

952
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: inspired by that for the Beauty and the Beast score,

953
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: you know the da you know that piece like when

954
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: the roses like yes, yes, yes, like listen to the

955
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: Aquarium from Cardi of the animals, they're almost exactly the same.

956
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not like shaming Alan. I think it's like

957
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: awesome that he was is a thief. Alan Macon is

958
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: my other favorite, like cheese. Alan Macon is the other

959
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: part of my childhood. Like I would watch Exposure Disney, yes,

960
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking to myself, like I feel like I

961
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying at that, but I don't understand

962
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: how you could be a child or alive exposed to

963
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: the world and not know who the Spice Girls were

964
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: because you'd go went to school and everyone will be

965
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: talking about like I remember the day Britney Spears like hit. However,

966
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 1: one day there was nothing and then the next day

967
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: there was Britney Spears and everyone was talking about it

968
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: was the honey, this is not like I'm not shaming

969
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: you for this. I think you were a popular kid.

970
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: I was not a popular kid. I was a nerdy kid.

971
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: I was only friends with like nerdy Christian girls, like

972
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: we didn't they weren't listening to Spice Girls or something

973
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: like that. Good point what you're exposed to, Like you

974
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: just said, well, I guess just like well, I mean

975
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: I don't think it had to do with anything with popularity.

976
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: I think like if I was obviously grew up in

977
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: like a Long Island community that was like very influenced

978
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: by the media, I think I mean, like because when

979
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: I went into school, it didn't matter who the funk

980
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: you were. I mean, everyone knew who Britney Spears was.

981
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: It just was not as capable. Um. But if you

982
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: are in a part of the country that like has

983
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: the option to turn away from that for whatever reason,

984
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: that I think that choice could get made and then

985
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: those things wouldn't be a part of your childhood. It's

986
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: just interesting, like the differences, sure, the differences in like upbringing,

987
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: because I would have remember years ago, I went on

988
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: a date with a guy years ago, it's like five

989
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 1: years ago, and I he asked what pop Roulette did

990
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: our sketch group, and I was like, yeah, we write

991
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: songs about pop culture, Like we just did a sketch

992
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: about Tylor Swift And he was like, who is that?

993
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: And this is like when like speak Now had been out,

994
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: Fearless had been out, Like she was huge, she was

995
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: one of the biggest everyone. I was like, you don't

996
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: know who Taylor Swift as I thought it was a joke,

997
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: but like, I guess that is possible. Yeah, yeah, it's possible.

998
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: After r I p carry Fisher passed away, I saw

999
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: this guy that I know post like I don't know

1000
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: who Debbie Reynolds are carry Fisher is? Why is everyone

1001
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: so sad? A gay guy? And I was like, wait,

1002
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: how like even like I mean even like straight people

1003
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: like Star Wars, how can you not know these two women?

1004
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: I want to say something that I because the mission

1005
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: statement of this podcast, bitch, because Matt and I were

1006
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: watching Hair Spray Live and then we were texting our

1007
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: friend Joel, and Joel was our other friend Adam's place,

1008
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: watching this and Joel would not stop texting me about

1009
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: this jerk there who was the gay gay guy? Who

1010
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: was like like, who are these people? Who's Queen Latifa?

1011
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Jennifer Hudson, I was confusing her for the

1012
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: movie up. Who's Who's Who's Jennifer Hudson, Who's Who's Arianagrad?

1013
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Like just what was kind of it seemed like he

1014
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: was like aware of he was just very deliberate and

1015
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: how like pop culture reverse he was. And he kept

1016
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: making that a political thing where he was like, well,

1017
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't follow pop culture, so there how cool. So

1018
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: the mission statement of ours cultural ristas is too is

1019
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: to spread the gospel of culture. Yeah, and you know

1020
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: what I think when I was like in middle school,

1021
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: I was kind of like that guy. I was like,

1022
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: I don't like pop houlso I don't know who Janet

1023
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: Jackson is. And then this friend John Josh, I think

1024
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: he might be married, which is why I'm not saying

1025
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: his last name, because, um, he like exposed me to

1026
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson. He was like the beginning of my like

1027
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: pop culture world journey. Yeah, you know what Josh was.

1028
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: Josh was a big part of Henry knowing when culture

1029
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: was for him. Absolutely. Yeah. Aside from like because I'm

1030
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: so happy like that I did grow up with like

1031
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: all these musicals and like West Side Story was like

1032
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: a life changing moment for me. Um, like when I

1033
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 1: first saw that movie. My favorite musical me too. Even

1034
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 1: my dad likes and he's not like a musical theater guy. Um,

1035
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: it's the most incredible music I think in the who

1036
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: ever written who's the most popular musician that you like?

1037
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: Musician well, like instrumentalists. Know what I mean? Is like

1038
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: if if there's is there someone that you go to

1039
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: bed four in terms of like the diva's the girls?

1040
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: Oh of like people that are like in the Arianna ground,

1041
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 1: not like Jill Scott who's kind of like no, she's

1042
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: not like she's like like the way the gays get

1043
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: behind one, who do you get? No? Actually, I know

1044
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: what he's gonna say, my favorite, Well, I think Beyonce

1045
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: is better, but my favorite is Rihanna. I love is

1046
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: Like you knew I was gonna say that, right. Well,

1047
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you said you think Beyonce is better

1048
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: because you've said otherwise is a I've said that Rihanna

1049
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: is better than I'm more captivated by Rihanna than I

1050
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: am Beyonce. You are crucifying your own boyfriend. I'm a

1051
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: truth teller, Okay, I'm a seer. Okay, I dragged it out.

1052
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't care who gets dragged up from bringing to

1053
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: the way Beyonce and I think it's because of like

1054
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: how they act outside of like their music career, Like

1055
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: Beyonce is so secretive and stuff, which is cool, but

1056
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: like Rihanna is funny. Rihanna is funny, and when she's singing,

1057
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 1: I feel like she's not like Beyonce is so rehearsed,

1058
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: which is amazing, Like she works so hard to get

1059
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: everything perfect. Rihanna. I feel like when you're watching her live,

1060
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: you're like something might defend um, but not in like

1061
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: a bad way, Like you've really feel like she's there

1062
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: in the moment performing. And I think that her voice

1063
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: is incredible. It's so rich and deep. And she used

1064
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: to not be good, especially in the last album cycle,

1065
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: especially with four or five Seconds. Yes, I thought she

1066
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: sounds amazing that and then in higher Um and in

1067
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: her album Auntie. But yeah, I know, I agree with you.

1068
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: That's not a bad answer. I hate that Kelvin Harris song.

1069
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: Did she Really? I feel like he did everything I

1070
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: like about Rihanna, he sucked out of it and just

1071
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: like character because it makes me sad like he collaborated

1072
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift on it, and Taylor Swift writes those

1073
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: things where you don't really need a voice to sing them,

1074
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: you just literally yeah, you're right, Like it's just like

1075
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: it's just it's just just tones, you know, It's just

1076
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: like we found love is another culture stopper in my opinion,

1077
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: and uh, so good and so I was excited when

1078
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: I saw that she was collaborating with him again, and

1079
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: it was such a disappointment. But that's because, Okay, here's

1080
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: the difference between we found love and this is what

1081
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: you came for, This is what you came for. Us

1082
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: trying to is trying to have character where this is

1083
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: we found love is deliberately like but but but but

1084
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: but but It's like very it feels like Rihanna, this

1085
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: is what you came for. It doesn't feel like we

1086
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: found love. And also the video where we found amazing,

1087
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: it's so good because it feels like Rihanna. It feels dirty,

1088
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: it feels raw, it feels like it feels like it

1089
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: just got fucked, you know what I mean? Like, whereas

1090
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,959
Speaker 1: this is what you came for, it feels like, oh yeah,

1091
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: this is Rihanna playing laying this down in fifteen minutes

1092
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: after hearing a probably vocal demo by Taylor Swift. Um

1093
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: one song that I think is very underrated that I

1094
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: really shop on at the time it came out, um

1095
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: is oh how does it go? We we would uh

1096
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 1: pour it up man I when I got super drunk,

1097
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: and then when we were walking home or something, we

1098
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: hated it at the we hated We just made fun

1099
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: of it. We just kept singing out, yeah, we were

1100
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: I remember and then someone that someone's in a car

1101
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: coming by and they were like that. That's the other

1102
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: best part of our Rihanna is her melismas because they're

1103
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: so sloppy and just like they're like fat. Her voice

1104
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: is like fat in them, Like you know, my favorite voice,

1105
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 1: your voice at the end of the bridge on Rude Boy,

1106
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: which is ah, it's like the most magical musical moment

1107
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: of pop music in the last time years a flat circle.

1108
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: Let's quickly before before we jump into I don't think someone,

1109
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: let's quickly talk about this culture stoppers list that Henry creative.

1110
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Now stop the world, world stop on Facebook with this

1111
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: culture stoppers um pop music kind of uh poll he did,

1112
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: so bunch of votes came in. I find the pulled

1113
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: to be a little problematic because I think that a

1114
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: lot of songs that are more classic snuck in there,

1115
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: like pull up the list. Okay, well here, let's just

1116
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: give the outline. So choose as many songs as you like,

1117
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: but please be selective as you decide if it is

1118
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: a timeless culture stopper, from compare it to I Will

1119
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: Always Love You, Will your grandkids know the words to

1120
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: the chorus of Hips don't lie the way that we

1121
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: know the words to My Girl by the Temptations. The

1122
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: survey is not to decide if it is uh, if

1123
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: it is a culture stopper. I think we decided these

1124
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: are culture stoppers. I think we already decided these are

1125
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: culture stoppers. But it is a timeless culture stopper. Again,

1126
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: timeless culture stopper. Give the top five from five? Okay,

1127
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: top five and this is okay, So with the number,

1128
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: I'll also give you the number of votes. A lot

1129
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: of people voted in this um number one, Uh. From

1130
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: is let's say it together well, number one? Or if

1131
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: are you going from five to one? Oh, let's go

1132
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: from five to I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. From

1133
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: five to one? Number five, we have baby got back, sir.

1134
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: Mix a lot with sixty seven, which I shouldn't have

1135
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: included because it's from That's what I'm saying, which is

1136
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: why it's truly I think huge that like that felt

1137
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: so current when I was in eighth grade at the

1138
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: school dance and it's playing and it was everyone knew everywhere,

1139
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: like it felt like it. That's because it was already

1140
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: a classic song. It really doesn't it should be on.

1141
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, people have gotten not upset, but like sure,

1142
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do about it. Let's just

1143
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: qualify that, and then I guess within those rules. Number six,

1144
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: which might you could consider his number five is My

1145
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: Heart Will Go On by Celindion, which classic. Um okay,

1146
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: I feel like one of the last great movie songs same,

1147
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, not from an animated movie, not from a

1148
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: back back when they mattered, right right, right, um okay.

1149
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: Number four is with sixty nine votes, is want to

1150
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: Be by Ice Girls, which I'm surprised, which I don't

1151
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: know if. Oh I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. Oh

1152
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: my god, I just butchered this. I'm sorry. Number four

1153
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: Time by Britney Spears is the next one. Okay. Matt

1154
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: and I were at a club in Chicago called Scarlett

1155
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: when my favorite club in the whole world. Matt I

1156
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: kept hyping this up to Matt and I was like,

1157
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll see it was good, it was great,

1158
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: Right do you put on him me? Maybe one more time?

1159
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: After a string of like modern hits, but as soon

1160
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: as they may maybe one more time came on. I

1161
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: was killed it. This song is the me every day melted. Yeah, yeah,

1162
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: I think that deserves to be on there. Ye right,

1163
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: done that? Yeah? Um that's with sixty eight votes and

1164
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I spoiled this early want to be votes. Well,

1165
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: our grandkids remember the lyrics. I think that they will.

1166
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: I think that they will. I feel like it's going

1167
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: to develop that same sort of eighties cheese. Yeah yeah,

1168
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: I get that. I just think I think it's it's fun.

1169
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be on there if it wasn't deserving. Sure,

1170
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: and yeah, as I think eighties cheese is exactly right.

1171
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be kind of like the

1172
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: time of your life, Like you know that song. It's

1173
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: like so corny and and you wouldn't think it'd be

1174
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: a culture stopper, but somehow it is. I think it's

1175
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: a culture stopper in part because its lyrics are so

1176
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: fucking bizarre like and also their energy performing it is

1177
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: so uh individual and like crazy. I think it really

1178
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: captured a feeling. Let's be real, though, Let's be real,

1179
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: little girls. When this song comes on at like a

1180
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: wedding or a party, like it's lit like everyone. Yeah,

1181
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: so it's fun. It's a crowd pleaser. Okay. Next, I

1182
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: think this is controversial, yeah, number number two because one

1183
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: of he was number three. Number two is with I

1184
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: Want to Be and let Go. We're both type for

1185
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: number two, so oh let it go. Now. I think

1186
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: that we are fresh off this being fucking inescapable, crazy,

1187
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: crazy crazy. But I think in ten years it doesn't

1188
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: have as many votes as hit Me. Maybe one more time,

1189
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: I would I would argue against that. Think about all

1190
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: like I've watched I don't know a hundred videos of

1191
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: toddlers singing like they're going to carry that with them.

1192
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: This song, I would say, is the reason Frozen is

1193
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: the highest grossing animated film of all time, isn't that crazy?

1194
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: Let me ask you? Is the song that good? I

1195
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: A lot of people talk about why it's bad, and

1196
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like it. And I think that

1197
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: if you there's a song and you just like it,

1198
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: that there's something good and maybe you don't need to

1199
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: put it into words. There's obviously something good about the song,

1200
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: like it's it's obviously good. Yeah, and how much of

1201
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to do with adina um yeah, could

1202
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: someone else sing it, like even like an amazing vocalst

1203
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: like Jennifer Hudson, Like I I think Idina had that

1204
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: that musical theater flair mixed with like the I don't

1205
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: know she has the right combo even though she can't

1206
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: sing alive. I've never heard her sing alive. Well, well,

1207
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: she's been a part of three cultural phenomenons like that's

1208
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: there's something wait what Wicked, Rent and Frozen like those

1209
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: are huge and enchanted, don't forget enchanted. She's been enchanted. Yeah,

1210
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: Patrick Dempsey's like a girlfriend and chances of the ones

1211
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: with Amy Adams, Yeah, she's in that. At the end

1212
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: of the movie, Adam's like gets sucked into the cartoon

1213
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: world and no one bats an eye. We were await

1214
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: Man and I had a bit about this. We were like,

1215
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like like there must have been a missing

1216
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: person's report, no word on what happened to this woman

1217
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: who have magically disappeared. Althose sources say she may have

1218
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: disappeared into a comic book world and she fell into

1219
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: a seward and we're sure she's happy moving on and

1220
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: we accept this new person. That's crazy. That's a movie

1221
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: I have questions about the logic job anyway, number one

1222
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: on this list, which I think is deserved, and also

1223
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: it shows up in the results because with eighty nine votes,

1224
01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: come on Girls, Single Ladies, Ladies. Single Ladies is a

1225
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: song that doesn't musically get me going in any way,

1226
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: but I do admit it. It's it just makes you

1227
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: happy when it comes on. Have you heard it live? Yes? Yes, twice. Yeah,

1228
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: everyone every it's it's about. I remember the moment I

1229
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: watched Single Ladies. I was walking down St. Mark's. This

1230
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: is freshman yeard and my you for us walking down St.

1231
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: Mark's and just watching it and girl changed my life.

1232
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: That was another thing. It was like before there was

1233
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: it was a moment before Single Ladies and after and

1234
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: now it's time to stop. I want to talk about

1235
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: sing Ladies a little more. I remember like when it happened.

1236
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: I love the video and like, yeah, all my gay

1237
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: friends and college we're talking about it. And then I

1238
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: went to a party with my straight friends and the

1239
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: right when we got in the car, they're like, we

1240
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: gotta play that new Beyonce song single Ladies. That's what

1241
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: I like. My straight friends they were jazz Musicis I

1242
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: only hung with like the straight jazz guys and they

1243
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: were like, we gotta listen to single ladies. Wow. Yeah,

1244
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: I think everyone loves Beyoncepublicans whatever, which who needs them anyway? Um, okay,

1245
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: it's time to stop, it's time to do. Wait, I

1246
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: just say one more thing. I'm still I know, I

1247
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: know I have to go. But West Side Story huge

1248
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: culture thing for me. The other big like life changing

1249
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: musical that I saw. I saw my community theater do it,

1250
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: the Grand Rapidsific Theater. Sweeney Todd changed my Sondheim at

1251
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: an early age. Now that you said that, this is

1252
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: I want to shout out my favorite teacher, because you

1253
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: shouted out a teacher Jane McGinnis in a p lit

1254
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: in twelfth grade. She exposed us to Sweeney Todd and

1255
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: Stephen Sondheim. And I will never forget something just turned on.

1256
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my god, unbelievable. It's the

1257
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: best work, I will say, and we can move on.

1258
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: I envy early exposure to Sondheim. I wouldn't count. West

1259
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: Side Story is like actual, like fully fledged songs. I

1260
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: feel like that. And this is another thing about Henry.

1261
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: There's another thing about Henry just making people singing, and like,

1262
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Speaker 1: I didn't get into Sondheim full fledged son time until

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: very recently. This is because Henry's Duplux nights, people will

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01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,959
Speaker 1: go up and just sing them and I'd be like, God,

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01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: this is just beautiful, complex music, and I want to

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: know more about this so than I Just after the

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01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: New Year, I watched all of Sunday in the Park

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01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: with George. It's all on YouTube, Manny Ptakan and Bernardett

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01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: Peter's and then there's all of Company and there's all

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Speaker 1: of like all these great time Anyway, so you guys

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01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: were there when that guy Larry Owens es Larry I

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01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: hope leave the piano bar at the Duplex every now

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01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: and then, and this guy named Larry Owens who I

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01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: had never met, came in and saying Sunday in the

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01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: Park with George, which you wouldn't think the opening number,

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01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: which you wouldn't think. Ish. Yeah, everyone leapt out of

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01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: their season like he's an amazing to look out for,

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01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: Larry and new friend. I mean, we we connected, we've

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01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: been from I think he's he's sort of like perfectly

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01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: like I mean, now he's gonna be even more in

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01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: the community because he's he's he's getting into the comedy gig.

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: Now we have to move on. We're gonna move on

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01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: to your favorite segment. I'm talking about you, the listener.

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01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. This will we take one

1285
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: minute to rail against something in culture, anything at all,

1286
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: anything that's grinding our gears right now, all the takes

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01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: in tax of culture. We're getting into a honey, all

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01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: the juda day. So, uh, Bone, would you like to

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01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: start or should I? Um? I can start? Okay, we

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01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: have one bit on the clock for Bone young. I

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01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't

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01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Trader Joe's locations in New York City.

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01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: I was in Chicago last week and I went to

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: the Trader Joe's on the Diversity and girl, it was

1295
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: a spacious, empty, fully stocked Trader Joe's. Could you imagine?

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01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Trader Jos in York with

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01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: the line goes around the fucking shelves. I don't think so, honey.

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01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: Trader Jos that don't have the ready to big chicken

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01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: pot pies that I love. They're my favorite thing of

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: all time at Trader Joe's, honey, and I never get them.

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01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: I only get them once in a blue moon, when

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01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: when the Trader Jos aren't packed like sardines. But I

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01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: go to Chicago, everything every shelf is fully stocked, and

1304
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: it's a bounty. It is a plenty, honey, and the

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01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: lines were short. Every worker, I mean, Trader Joe's workers

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01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: in New York are very nice people, but then were

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: the ones in Chicago are just just They don't have

1308
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: to have to do with the stress. So I don't

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01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: think so, honey, Trader just New York's. All of the

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01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: New York locations the Union Square one forget it or

1311
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: get it. I used to think that was normal and

1312
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: I that was acceptable, but I do not accept it anymore.

1313
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: I only go to the one that is on Court

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01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: Street in Brooklyn. I don't think so, honey. He comes

1315
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: against the chain that has traded. Joseph gives us ally

1316
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: SA good location for me because it's the first time

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01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: I ever bought wine by myself. Sure, I mean like

1318
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: I will never I will always think you'd be grateful

1319
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: for that because likewise, but no, not anymore, Okay, okay,

1320
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 1: great Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey, time starts now.

1321
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The Golden Globes giving Damien

1322
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: Shaws l a Screenplay Award for La La Lad. Now, look, bitch,

1323
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: I think La La Land is good for many many reasons.

1324
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: I think Emma Stone gagged me to death, and you

1325
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: know what I'll come for you, anyone. I don't think so, honey,

1326
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: say that Emma Stone wasn't right here in this part,

1327
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: because guess what, when you put a camera in your face,

1328
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: you better be able to act in honey, I don't

1329
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: want to see Laura Ostens on screen with the camera

1330
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: in her face. You know what, You'll be gagged when

1331
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: it goes to Broadway and you can see here's the

1332
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: fool's who dreams sung in that beautiful voice. Well, guess

1333
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: what this is on film, girl friends, and you need

1334
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: a different flavor. That said, her acting and the acting

1335
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: of the other people in the movie, and the direction

1336
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: of Damian very good director almost almost almost doesn't even

1337
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: matter because the script is bad. Bitch. Okay twice in

1338
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: the movie, Oh No, I forgot I had this thing

1339
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: is a huge plot point. No screenplane, no might be

1340
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: if I lit on fire in that moment that it

1341
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 1: was handed that golden globe. Also, the fight they have

1342
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: is the most infuriating fight ever. You're deliberately not saying

1343
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: what you want. It was like watching a car wrect

1344
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: happen on purpose, La, and you don't deserve the best screenplay, Oscar.

1345
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: Don't even think about it, Oscar. Oh, and that I

1346
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: don't think so many. That's for the longest. I don't

1347
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: think so many. That's been a record a minute in

1348
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: five seconds. Well, I had a lot to say, and

1349
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: can you believe I have more to say about it?

1350
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe another episode, another episode will follow up. We'll

1351
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: do it. Shouldn't be winning scripting awards. Girlfriend, you guys

1352
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: have to have another episode with another music theater person

1353
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: and talk about sometime because there's so much. There's so

1354
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: much there and or but I know there are people

1355
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: that know a lot more about them than me, and

1356
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: I want to hear that person. We want to know.

1357
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: We want to know what you think right now and

1358
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so okay, can't wait? Can I? Can?

1359
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 1: I do? You've done this for where I had three

1360
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 1: seconds or seconds gonna switch to almost did that and

1361
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: then we decided not to it. But we'll do it

1362
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: for you. We'll do it for you. But I'm saying

1363
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be it's gonna be tough. It's maybe

1364
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: I'll ignore it and just keep going on the same,

1365
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: all right, rights, I don't think is an iconic moment.

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01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 1: It starts right now. I don't think so, honey, Jim class,

1367
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: it is the worst class. It has been made fun

1368
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: like it's in movies for the past four decades of

1369
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: like nerdy kids just hating gym class because there's evil

1370
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 1: jocks and bullies or like bitchy girls that are awful

1371
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: bitchy boys to pitchy is for everyone, and uh and

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01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: it is not physical education. It is competitive sports education.

1373
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,799
Speaker 1: And I hate a gym class so much that I stopped.

1374
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: I avoided physical activity all for everything because it was

1375
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: like such a tormenting thing in my life. And I thought, Okay,

1376
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep going. And uh, oh my god, oh

1377
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: my god, I hate Jim class so much. You should

1378
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: be teaching kids how to be healthy. Teach them why

1379
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: the way they move makes them healthy, Teach them about

1380
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: eating healthy, teach them how like calories work. Don't make

1381
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,560
Speaker 1: us play basketball with jocks and I don't think so, honey.

1382
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: Like some kids are nerdy and they can't handle and

1383
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: and also our society like lifts sports up so much

1384
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: so the kids that are good in gym class are revered,

1385
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: and the kids that are bad, even if you're really

1386
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: good at music or something, you are just like vilified

1387
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: and like made fun of. Jim. Class needs to change.

1388
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: And Okay, sorry, I don't think so, honey, gym classes

1389
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: and as there was real passion behind that. I feel

1390
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: like both Henry and my father's are physical education. But

1391
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: and I have talked to my dad about this, and

1392
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: my dad, I know he puts effort into like making

1393
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: sure the kids that aren't into it, like are having

1394
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: a good time and not being mocked. Also, like locker

1395
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: rooms need to be supervised. The ship that happens in

1396
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: rooms is just scarlet terrible, traumatic sexual harassment, bullying. The

1397
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: way that seventh grade boys will talk about girls talk

1398
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: about just disgusting. That's where it starts. That's whip it

1399
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: in a but you need to have a supervisor in there.

1400
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: It's bad. It look really bad. This gym class talk

1401
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: that Jim class, I don't think so many first of all, iconic, Second,

1402
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: of all coming from the picture of health Henry Koperski. Truly,

1403
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: you get somebody to eat kale, you cannot. So if

1404
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: Henry is telling you that he hated fitness as a

1405
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: child or the idea the trimmings that come with fitness

1406
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: as a child, and it had to he had to

1407
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: undo years of that to get to where he is today,

1408
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: that is real, Mama. That is culture. I think it's

1409
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: definitely problematic. I think it's all about like this kind

1410
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: of like traditional toxic masculine masculinity. And there's still gym

1411
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: teachers who will have like captains choose their team like

1412
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: it's RuPaul's Dragons with kids, and then there's like poor

1413
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: kids that are chosen last and that scars them for

1414
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: like it's really like terrible and it happens every day.

1415
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: You know what. Some of the gym teachers get off

1416
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 1: on it. I'm sure they should. They should be not fired,

1417
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 1: but demerited. And I know that for some kids that's

1418
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: the only place they shine is the gymnasi shore, which

1419
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: is so that's good for them, but you need to

1420
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: make it work for everyone. And we also need to

1421
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: help those kids that shine in gym, like find love

1422
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: for like academics too, and I don't know. It's I

1423
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: agree also because like so what you were great as

1424
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: you were great at sports in high school. That doesn't

1425
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: take you very far. I mean unless it does which

1426
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: unless it does which good for you. You're in the

1427
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: less than one percent. It's just two prioritized. UM. I

1428
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: say that with love for um the act of running,

1429
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: jumping and leaping. UM, I have to say, this has

1430
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,839
Speaker 1: to be we have to come to an end. Henry

1431
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: has a show to go to. He's going to go

1432
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: perform in Ha ha Wow from Our Doctor's hosted by

1433
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 1: Nicole Silverberg. It's a great lineup tonight. You should always

1434
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 1: go to see this show. Um. Sunday night, I do

1435
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: want to say, I want to pug this show. Nicole

1436
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: Silverberg is hosting a charity show for Fountain House at

1437
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: Union Hall. Check that out. I think this is a

1438
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: really good charity and I want people to go to it.

1439
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: It's it's just a really good thing. It's it's a

1440
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: good example of putting positivity and and wellness in the world.

1441
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: And I really want to shout that out. And when

1442
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: last plug for me and Matt Um we have the

1443
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: final final truly final performance of our popuar lecture that's

1444
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: been running an ECB called Amazing Earth. It's on January,

1445
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: same night as a Little Night Music. Henry still make

1446
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: it a UCB night. You come see us earlier in

1447
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: the night. Then you hop on over to see amazing

1448
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: talent um singing and doing their thing and having a

1449
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: great time. And thank Henry, You're the best. I love

1450
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: I love both of you so much. It's awesome to

1451
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: be on here. Yes, buffle, but I am only a

1452
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: platonic And I'm so excited for Chrissie Shackelford. I've been

1453
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: waiting for this episode. Tell the time. When is Chrissy

1454
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: gonna be on next episode? Honey, It'll be historic. It's

1455
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: gonna become reality. Alright, Bye, guys, everyone kissing to the mic.

1456
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: Guess we go out? This has been a Forever Dog

1457
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 1: production executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsay, and Brett Bohm.

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: For more podcasts, please visit Forever Dog Productions dot com,

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