1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleventh, Rio to Washington, 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomber to Boston, Bloomberg twelve, d to San Francisco, 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine to the country's Channel one nine and around 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus DA and Bloomberg dot Com. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: This is taking Stock, coming off on taking Stock. Airline 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: executives are meeting in Dublin. They'll be talking about oil prices, terrorism, 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: international travel. And it was supposed to be a happy meeting, 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: a celebratory meeting, is it. Well, we'll find out more 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: about the future of the airline industry with Helene Becker, 10 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: senior analyst at Cowen and Company. We'll find out if 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: she thinks this ebbing demand trend will last or not. 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Let's get to Charlie Pellett now in the Bloomberg newsroom. 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: He's got a Bloomberg business lass and I thank you 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: very much, Kathleen, thank you him. The dowin SMP trading 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: lower nezdaka just we're versing. It is now higher, barely 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: up by half a point, little change their forty nine 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: thirty four right now and then as that compositive index 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: SMP five hundred index down five, a drop of three 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: tenths of one percent, and with twenty nine minutes to 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: go ahead of the close, the Dow is down one 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: oh eight, a drop of six tenths of one percent, 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: So stocks are slipping. Stronger spending data bolstering the case 23 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: for higher interest rates as early as this summer. Plenty 24 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: of economic data for investors to sort through today, consumer 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: spending climbing in April by the most in almost seven years, 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: up one percent on Bloomberg Intelligence, Chief US Economists car 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Rickadono was interviewed about the spending report. The data right 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: here on taking stock so not quite so strong when 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: you start to look beneath the surface, because what we 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: saw was a big increasing gasoline prices, uh, and so 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: that led to a rise in spending on non durable goods. 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: So if you adjust that away, it's not quite so strong. Also, 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: a big increase in spending on utilities as we had 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: more normal weather conditions last month after a warm ut 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: start to the year, so that led to some bounce back. 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't characterize this as great, but I put 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: it in the good category as some PK. Schiller says, 38 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: home prices in twenty cities rose faster than projected in 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: March from a year earlier, adding to signs of healthy 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: demand at the onset of the industry's busy selling season. 41 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: On the conference Board said consumer confidence unexpectedly fell in 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: May to the lowest level in six months. Down industrials 43 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: down one oh three, a drop of six tenths of 44 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: one percent, Gold off a dollar little change to twelve fourteen, 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: up point one percent, and a three thirty two on 46 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: Wall Street. Now, let's look at other news from around 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: the world. Thank you, Charlie from the Bloomberg Newsroom. I'm 48 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: rainy in essentio. This news update is brought to you 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: by the Jeep Grand Cherokee, the most awarded suv ever. 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: The Grand Cherokee continues to raise the bar with its 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: luxurious interior and legendary four by four capability. Drive one 52 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: at your local Jeet dealer. 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Helene, 95 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: always a pleasure, Thank you for being with us. What 96 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: do you make of this uh four point six percent 97 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: rise in global air passenger demand in April. Is that 98 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: something that is set to continue this decline? No? Oh good, Okay, 99 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: we can all go back now. Thanks for having me 100 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: um on the show again. And no, I don't think so. 101 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: I think April was very specific. You had, um, you 102 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: had some strikes over in Europe by some of the 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: European airlines. You also had, you know, a m Easter 104 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: shift into March, so you had a little bit of 105 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: a tough year over year calm. So it made the 106 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: numbers look um knock hit as good as they are. 107 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: We think May it's a better month normally May it's 108 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: worst in April, and June's better than May, you know, 109 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: kind of on par with April. And this time we 110 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: should have April be the worst month of the quarter 111 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: and mana June sequentially better. So Delta reports traffic Thursday 112 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: morning before the open, that will be the first May 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: number we got and we're expecting it to sequentially be 114 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: better than it was in April. Of course, as we 115 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 1: just said it was, April was the slowest pace since 116 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, over a year ago. January. In our Bloomberg 117 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: story quotes the CEO of the I A t A, 118 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: the International Air Transport Association, saying the stimulus from lower 119 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: oil prices appears to be tapering off global economics with 120 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: situations subdued, demand growing. But maybe we're shifting down a gear. 121 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: What are prices doing? Could prices have anything to do 122 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: with bb people not being quite as eager to buy 123 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 1: a plane? Take well, prices are still you know, down 124 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: quite a lot year every year, and oil prisses are 125 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: back up, I guess about off their January lows. So 126 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: as the year goes on, we expect to see less 127 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: capacity growth from the airlines and higher air fares. But 128 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: right now, especially coming into the summer months, fares have 129 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: been relatively low and demand has been very strong. I mean, 130 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, you guys reported on stories over the last 131 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: few weeks about lines at at T s A, at security, 132 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: and you know, the airlines are working very hard to 133 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: keep people moving. We're expecting two two hundred and thirty 134 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: million people to travel over the next three months, and 135 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, that should be a record for UM for 136 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: US carriers. Now, Helene, I know you you you follow 137 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: the carriers as opposed to let's say, air Bus and Boeing. 138 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: But because of the stories having to do with competition 139 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: between the two aircraft makers, I'm wondering if the current 140 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: concern is a result of just outsized ordering buy airlines 141 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: that met the demand and now the demand is maybe stabilizing, 142 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: so they're not ordering as many planes. Is that accurate? Yes, yes, 143 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Actually that's a very good observation because the you know, 144 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: most of the world's airlines ordered aircraft over the past 145 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: four or five years, and the US carriers only just 146 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: started ordering over the last day year, with the exception 147 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: of American which placed that big order back in August 148 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: of two thousand eleven. But on balance, most of the 149 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: rest of the US airlines have only just ordered recently, 150 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: and even there they've been very judicious about the aircraft 151 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: orders they placed because they don't want to get into 152 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: an overcapacity situation. So a lot of what they've ordered 153 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: is designated for replacement actually are not for growth. Um. 154 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: You know, using the one and a half to two 155 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: x GDP multiplier, we're only expecting in a two percent 156 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: GDP growth environment, traffic to grow three to four percent, 157 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: and that's the peak, you know, off peak times, first quarter, 158 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you know, except for Christmas, UM probably is 159 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: going to grow, you know, one percent. So I got 160 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: to balance that out. And the airlines certainly don't need 161 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: a lot of new equipment. Helen. I don't want to 162 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: jinx myself, but I've been had a several flights in 163 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: the last few weeks and I have not encountered hashtag 164 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: line gate. That's use the d S as a mess, 165 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: hashtag line gate. These these growing long lines cross the US. 166 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: What have you experienced in more broadly, how big of 167 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: an issue is this? What is it? Is it a 168 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: big problem for the airlines or not? So fair question. 169 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: I think it's at the busiest airports. I think the 170 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: worst of the lines was probably in Chicago. I like you, 171 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: I had a bunch of flights over the last few 172 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: weeks and I didn't experience long waits at all. And 173 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: in three of the four cases, you know, over the 174 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: last ten days, my flights were I I just walked 175 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: through security in less than five minutes, and my daughter 176 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: had one coming out of Baltimore. UM A week ago 177 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: and her flight was I think she had a twenty 178 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: minute wait. UM and one of my associates how to 179 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: wait over the weekend of nothing. So, you know, I 180 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: think it's it's been dissipated. The UM T s A 181 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: has has worked very hard to improve the way at times, 182 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: and the airlines have sent UM what we call, you know, 183 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: helping people out to the airports to help UM infrequent 184 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: travelers getting through the line. You know, this is the 185 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: line you wait on. Take off your shoes, don't take 186 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: off your shoes, take your bag out, take your laptop out, whatever, 187 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: don't do it, do it UM. And I think that 188 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: it's helped speed those lines. So I think, you know, 189 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: lots of news, but I think it's beyond us now. Alrighty, 190 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: Helene Becker, thank you so very much for joining a 191 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: senior analyst at Cowen and Company. She says, don't be 192 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: put off by some slower growth in demand for airline 193 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: tickets in April. Me and JR. Gonna looks just fine. 194 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm Cathine Hayesel on pim Fox. This is taking Stock 195 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: on Blomberg Radio. Coming up on taking Stock, will be 196 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: speaking with Scott Clement's chief investment strategist private wealth management 197 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: for Brown Brothers Harriman. He'll tell us what are his 198 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: clients doing with their money next