Speaker 1: Hello everyone. I'm a Nissa Ferrera and I am Davion
Speaker 1: Rogers and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast. We are
Speaker 1: back with another episode from the World Championship. I can't
Speaker 1: deal with it. I can't. The cliffhanger, I can't. The
Speaker 1: cliffhangers are killing me. Y'all gonna have to give us
Speaker 1: four episodes because girl what I know, right, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can watch the whole thing tonight. It's actually a
Speaker 1: really good season so far. I really loved this episode. Yes, yes, honey.
Speaker 1: I am so excited to see Johnny come back and
Speaker 1: to see how she is dominating in this episode. I'm
Speaker 1: so so proud of her. It could be because you know,
Speaker 1: the whole Mama thing. I don't know, but I just
Speaker 1: I love her as a person and I love her spirit.
Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking, I am really I
Speaker 1: noticed as I was watching this episode, Casey is more active.
Speaker 1: I don't see Casey as active on the main show.
Speaker 1: I noticed in this episode she's more active, more talkative.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, you know what, but I
Speaker 1: am excited to see how Casey plays this game without Josh,
Speaker 1: Nanny and Fansy around her. I am so excited to
Speaker 1: see how she plays this game this season. I can't wait. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think she's definitely This is definitely a different, different
Speaker 1: Challenge chapter for her. And I think that she's coming
Speaker 1: on after we had a really long season with the
Speaker 1: mindset of like I'm gonna go have fun, right, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel a lot already from her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we shall see. Girl. It's some te bruin, okay, Kelly,
Speaker 1: and I feel it mine on an episode, I am anxious,
Speaker 1: paranoid Pam and it happens. It happens to a lot
Speaker 1: of us, but we're like silently spiraling. She had out
Speaker 1: loud spiral. I think I outlet spiral sometimes. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: all have, we all have. Yes. So for this particular
Speaker 1: season of the Challenge, we have a new segment of
Speaker 1: which we're calling it King or Queen of the world
Speaker 1: or someone who's on another planet. Right, so we'll start
Speaker 1: with you. Who is your king or Queen of the
Speaker 1: world for this episode? I mean, my queen is john A.
Speaker 1: And not because she's coming on, and not because I
Speaker 1: love her, but I feel like she handled that puzzle
Speaker 1: in two seconds. Yeah, she did good, and that was
Speaker 1: one of the most difficult ones because they were the
Speaker 1: last ones to get there. Yes, moving her reputation to
Speaker 1: be true. Right, Kudos to Mom and Pops, to Grant
Speaker 1: for following directions and trusting that john A had it.
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm just gonna let it go, and
Speaker 1: he did and she killed it. However, there are two people.
Speaker 1: There are three people on this other planet. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: think Cahoui and Nelson are on their own planet during
Speaker 1: this episode when they are trying to figure out this puzzle.
Speaker 1: Poor babies, but they were just so confused. They were
Speaker 1: just they were just helpless, like just stuck in the material.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, Well we don't. We
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. You know, we'll see
Speaker 1: on the next episode or the next depending depending We
Speaker 1: may never get to this elimination in three episodes. Just
Speaker 1: gonna have morehouse drama, right, talking about who they want
Speaker 1: to vote in. But you know what, that's what the
Speaker 1: people have been asking for. They're like, we want to
Speaker 1: see more of the drama, so all the stuff that's
Speaker 1: we want to see, difficult challenges that challenge people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we also want to see what goes on in
Speaker 1: people's heads. And conversations that they have that make them
Speaker 1: do the things they do. Yes, yeah, because I think
Speaker 1: we're missing out on the meat and potatoes, right we
Speaker 1: go challenging all of a sudden, I'll talk of shit
Speaker 1: and a confessional. But that's fine, or not just me,
Speaker 1: just anyone. We want to know how we got from
Speaker 1: A to I don't know how we go to A
Speaker 1: to Z. I need to know A to B B
Speaker 1: two C C T T. That's what I mean there.
Speaker 1: I need a linear projection. Listeners, I hope you are
Speaker 1: catching on. This has become a podcast that is very
Speaker 1: therapeutic for Anissa, and I'm glad to be a part
Speaker 1: of that. Thank you very much. So my king or
Speaker 1: queen for this episode is John of course, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Like I could sit up and rant and rave about
Speaker 1: her all day. I just thought that again she proved
Speaker 1: her reputation to be true, and I thought that was
Speaker 1: super cool to watch. And then on another planet, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give it to Kelly. I am wait. I just
Speaker 1: see this planet in the distance here sitting on it
Speaker 1: say that, and it's just chant just a little She's
Speaker 1: just sitting there like well, and like I like her.
Speaker 1: I like her, but it's like something this episode just
Speaker 1: really wasn't click. And then again, maybe there's something we
Speaker 1: didn't see. We don't know, but I do think there
Speaker 1: is something that is to be said. Baby girl, you
Speaker 1: need to come on, come on back, and and and
Speaker 1: and if she ends up in this elimination and she
Speaker 1: comes back out on top, then baby, something different raise hell.
Speaker 1: I feel because I've seen both sides of Kelly Ham. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we became friends. Yeah. Oh, then we became
Speaker 1: friends after that, so I know what it looks like
Speaker 1: from both ends. And it's not always fun, like the
Speaker 1: wrath of some people are just not fun because like
Speaker 1: like Johnny's you know, we all we've played with her before.
Speaker 1: She doesn't mince words. You know, she's gonna tell you
Speaker 1: how she feels. Yeah, well, let's hope john Nay tells
Speaker 1: us how she feels because we have such a fun
Speaker 1: episode for you guys today. The number one draft pick
Speaker 1: Johnny is on the podcast today, So don't go anywhere
Speaker 1: because we'll be right back with all the team after this.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about this episode because one of my
Speaker 1: favorites is here today. And let me just start by
Speaker 1: saying she is the bomb, and she holds it down
Speaker 1: for the mamas, and y'all know that's near and dear
Speaker 1: to my heart because everything I do is for my baby. Okay,
Speaker 1: so give it up with us for Johane, I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to here, man. I just want people to start
Speaker 1: pronouncing your name right. It's never been no. You were fine.
Speaker 1: I immediately immediately like did I say it? No? On
Speaker 1: this actual episode, Danny was like, and Jana or Jonah
Speaker 1: or I've seen people call you Joanne. Yes, yes, people,
Speaker 1: there's no a before those ends. Maybe Johan, you are
Speaker 1: here with us on the podcast. So I just want
Speaker 1: to jump right into this episode because girl, so I
Speaker 1: we're salty. Everybody could hide the fact that they were
Speaker 1: like damn, I'm like, yeah, there's little yeah, yeah. Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody. I don't think anybody was more
Speaker 1: surprised than I was that I was first round draft pick. Um.
Speaker 1: My face showed it all. Um. Honestly, I knew. We
Speaker 1: didn't know, like TJ told us, like, you know, do
Speaker 1: well in this qualifier, but we didn't know for sure.
Speaker 1: We kind of made assumptions like, hey, this would be
Speaker 1: the order we're choosing, but we didn't really know. Um,
Speaker 1: I knew Grant had gotten first, and um, let me
Speaker 1: just tell you every conversation that I had with Grant
Speaker 1: leading up to this point was about Tori, about him
Speaker 1: choosing Tory as a partner, you know, And so I
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, she's a badass, like she just
Speaker 1: wants us thirty eight like, you know. It was more
Speaker 1: informational about other people. It was never like, yeah, why
Speaker 1: would you be a good partner for me? So when
Speaker 1: it actually came down to it, I think, like in
Speaker 1: you know, the arena when we were there, He's like,
Speaker 1: I think we might be a good partners. I was like,
Speaker 1: I think I think we would be too. But I
Speaker 1: didn't think that he was going to choose me, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was as sure that everyone else was.
Speaker 1: If the roles were reversed, who would you have chosen?
Speaker 1: After watching the qualifier, right, Um, coming into this, like
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen anybody performing. So the only show that
Speaker 1: I had seen, obviously, besides the Flagship in All Stars
Speaker 1: was The Challenge USA. So going into this, I mean
Speaker 1: I had talked to Sarah and I was like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I think I would be a good fit for Usa.
Speaker 1: I think I would work well with Danny. I think
Speaker 1: I would work well with then. I don't know, if
Speaker 1: you want to put in a good word, but like, honestly,
Speaker 1: they were the only people whose names I knew going
Speaker 1: into the qualifier, so I thought, you know, after talking
Speaker 1: to Ben, I thought, you know, for sure i'd be
Speaker 1: paired with him, and anything is is. Danny and I
Speaker 1: had this little joke now and he always every time
Speaker 1: we like cross each other in the hallway or something,
Speaker 1: he'd be like the partner that got away. I was
Speaker 1: under full impression that like either Ben or Danny was
Speaker 1: going to choose me. Didn't even you know, question it. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: did anyone express like their level of anger or disappointment
Speaker 1: for partners that they could have had or should have
Speaker 1: had or wanted to have and now they don't like
Speaker 1: were people? No? I do. I do remember though, like um,
Speaker 1: Sarah giving Danny like a lot of SHITU and being like, well, Danny,
Speaker 1: if you would have just you know, won the qualifier. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think that grants not telling anybody who who
Speaker 1: he was going to choose, and then it kind of
Speaker 1: caused this like domino effect of people getting different partners
Speaker 1: than people they had originally talked to. I love that.
Speaker 1: I love a good surprise mission. Everyone went into it
Speaker 1: thinking that he was gonna pick Tor. That's that's what
Speaker 1: I thought. I don't know what everyone else thought. So,
Speaker 1: you know, we move into the house after the qualifier,
Speaker 1: we have a couple of days to like you know,
Speaker 1: get to know one each one another, and before we
Speaker 1: get to the next thing, like you know, in the show,
Speaker 1: it shows us going directly there. So I think everybody
Speaker 1: kind of had an idea of, like, you know, who
Speaker 1: they want to work with, you know what they're gonna do,
Speaker 1: and you know, Grant just comes out with us, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose this person um which shape the tables.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, West West took credit for it. Somehow.
Speaker 1: It's very you know, West thing to do. He was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, funny, I talked to Grants and
Speaker 1: I you know, I asked him what his weakness's word.
Speaker 1: He said puzzles, and I was like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: my girl, Johnny is really good for puzzles. And job
Speaker 1: you did on your own sissy your so I My
Speaker 1: other question was, I know you got to actually see
Speaker 1: the expression on the faces of the last pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did they express their um, did they express any hot
Speaker 1: think about Kelly? Ylliam was pissed she was hot? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kelly Kelly didn't probably, I mean, no one would like
Speaker 1: to be picked class. Honestly, it was like dodgeball and
Speaker 1: it's like you get if you get, you're standing there
Speaker 1: and everyone else is getting picked like yeah, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: she didn't want to be picked. Like. I hate it
Speaker 1: because I feel like you're just getting sized up and
Speaker 1: you just wait down there to see. Like. I hate
Speaker 1: how it makes you feel like people are just I'm
Speaker 1: judging you. I mean, even though they are very much
Speaker 1: basically picking you based on what they think you're capable of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I feel like the last pick is like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll just work with this. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened to Tristan during that qualifier. He couldn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't see it, but I couldn't figure out the weight thing,
Speaker 1: So poor guy. Okay, let me ask you this question.
Speaker 1: Here goes some tea. Give it to our listeners because
Speaker 1: you know we likes to get a little a little
Speaker 1: look ish over here, right. Were there any preseason alliances
Speaker 1: going into there? Preseason Alliances. Well, you know what, the
Speaker 1: Challenge World Championship was very different because listen, so I
Speaker 1: had just come from, like say, All Stars, so I
Speaker 1: have obviously those relationships that I've kind of come into
Speaker 1: this game with. Yeah, they just wrapped filming season thirty eight,
Speaker 1: which I'll get back to that. But you know, coming
Speaker 1: back home and watching season thirty eight and seeing how
Speaker 1: that game was set up, it made me understand why
Speaker 1: everybody played, you know, in the World Championship with that
Speaker 1: like mob mentality. Yeah. I didn't get it when I
Speaker 1: was there, but after watching thirty eight, I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: wonder they all like played that way. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: you know, we have people coming in, you know, this
Speaker 1: is their second show. We have people from Survivor and
Speaker 1: different shows from Big Brother, and it was very interesting
Speaker 1: to see how everyone plays differently plays the game. Oh,
Speaker 1: I forgot you at first. All Stars. So we've been
Speaker 1: doing shows of people from all the other shows Davon included. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um so yeah, they do. They do play really differently. Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't even explain it to you.
Speaker 1: There was there was one point that I was like
Speaker 1: in the house right and I saw Grants right, And
Speaker 1: I saw like Sarah and Danny and just different people downstairs.
Speaker 1: Everybody was talking to Grant, and I noticed how the
Speaker 1: survivors were feeding him these things, right, and Grant is
Speaker 1: just like he's like, I don't care. I'll go into elimination.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't give a funk who I go against.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, WHOA, let me do some
Speaker 1: damnage control here, like this week hopefully admit like, hey,
Speaker 1: we don't care who we go against. We want to
Speaker 1: think out the best. That's not that's not how you
Speaker 1: know the legends play it. I'm like, we need to
Speaker 1: reel it in a little bit. Yeah, So Bibar and
Speaker 1: big Brother is very mental, and so when we when
Speaker 1: we come into the challenge, it was like, y'all that's
Speaker 1: what you guys rely on. There's no there's no this
Speaker 1: chance of like you know, the daily challenge thrown in
Speaker 1: this game or notions you fully rely on. Yes, And
Speaker 1: it was my first opportunity, in my first chance to
Speaker 1: witness it firsthand and see, I'm damn you guys are good.
Speaker 1: Were scary, but it is scary, Like I love to
Speaker 1: make it work. So now we have the pairings right,
Speaker 1: because these great pairings and there's some heavy hitters. Like
Speaker 1: when they say world Championship situation, it for real is
Speaker 1: a situation. Okay. And so to you, were there any
Speaker 1: teams that you were like, oh, I might be a
Speaker 1: little yeah, give me the top three that you may
Speaker 1: have been like, um, Tory and Danny getting paired together.
Speaker 1: My immediate thought was, okay, I don't want to see
Speaker 1: them in hall roll. However, you know, absolutely strong team
Speaker 1: right there. I didn't know anything about Kazz necessarily. I
Speaker 1: knew that she had won uk UM, but I knew Jordan,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a very strong competitor as well.
Speaker 1: And you know, I was, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting around looking at all the teams and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: this is like. This isn't like a hey, here's a
Speaker 1: layout team, Hey there's this. It's every single team either
Speaker 1: has an Olympian, an ex professional athlete, a champion, like
Speaker 1: all of it. I personally, when I saw the pairings,
Speaker 1: my eyes immediately went to Sarah and THEO bro Like
Speaker 1: that's scary. I think I think the only thing that's
Speaker 1: probably scarier than that would have been THEO and Tory
Speaker 1: that would have been the only thing that would have
Speaker 1: been scarier than that. I was like, this is going
Speaker 1: to be physically, but I don't know about um communication wise,
Speaker 1: I don't know yet. Oh yeah, yeah that's all. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing, because I feel like when you get these
Speaker 1: people together, they may be strong, however, coming from different games,
Speaker 1: coming from their experience on the show. Maybe one's one one,
Speaker 1: maybe one hasn't. You go on with a totally different
Speaker 1: mindset on how you're going to play that game, especially
Speaker 1: when you have nothing to lose, like you don't have
Speaker 1: to win again because you've already won, when you still
Speaker 1: want to get to win bitter, Um, it doesn't. This
Speaker 1: was my very first time doing a challenge with you,
Speaker 1: and I will first off of that say he is
Speaker 1: the most hilarious person I've ever met. Like when you
Speaker 1: want comedy, when you want that, like you know, comedic
Speaker 1: relief of like not being in a challenge game, Like
Speaker 1: he is so fucking funny. I love him. But um,
Speaker 1: they were a very interesting pair seeing Sarah and THEO together.
Speaker 1: They're both very opinionated, they're most and very different alliances. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say that about the way that the pairing
Speaker 1: shook up um the Challenge USA team. All the pairs
Speaker 1: in that team specifically, it was very interesting to watch
Speaker 1: because not only were they strong, but every pair had
Speaker 1: it's you know, one partner was on one side and
Speaker 1: one partner was on the other side. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I haven't been to nomination yet, but there's a very
Speaker 1: good chance that you know, it's gonna get real heated
Speaker 1: between USA because whoa. I thought the dynamic of the
Speaker 1: baby steps between Johnny and Justine was really really good.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see how that progresses. But I thought
Speaker 1: that was really good to see them in the beginning
Speaker 1: to see how that played out. So I want to
Speaker 1: get right into it because Kelly Anne is your girl,
Speaker 1: like outside of the game, that's that's your girl. Before
Speaker 1: we even get into it, because in this episode we
Speaker 1: don't get to see what happens in the ending, but
Speaker 1: just to kind of give us a little hint, where
Speaker 1: do you and Kelly Anne stand today? Okay, so this
Speaker 1: isn't this is what I think. It's very interesting about that. Sorry,
Speaker 1: but I'm stressed out for you in this episode. I'm
Speaker 1: stressed out for her, I'm stressed out for you. I'm
Speaker 1: like it like gives me nervous energy life. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can I know, both of us. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: that both of you. And you don't know how you
Speaker 1: hate conflict. And she's she's like, you're my friend, don't
Speaker 1: vote for me, thank you, And I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'll never do Okay, so let me lead up into this. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: Kelly Anne and I are friends. Um, we we're good friends.
Speaker 1: And you know, coming into this game, Uh, Kelly Anne
Speaker 1: and I were both on I was on All Stars one,
Speaker 1: two and three. Kelly Anne was on All Stars one
Speaker 1: and All Stars three she missed two well, and in
Speaker 1: All Stars season two, Jody and I, you know, became close.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily close, like we weren't like best friends or anything,
Speaker 1: but as far as the game goes and as far
Speaker 1: as um reliability and alliance is, like, Joe proved herself
Speaker 1: to me, and I will say honestly, it's because of
Speaker 1: her and because of our alliance that we had with
Speaker 1: you know, Janelle and Darell and Jody and Brad, you know,
Speaker 1: because of that, Like, yeah, I knew one thing about Jody.
Speaker 1: I knew she was a straight shooter. I knew that,
Speaker 1: you know, what she says, she means she's not ever
Speaker 1: gonna bullshit me. So, you know, when I'm faced with
Speaker 1: this hard decision of Okay, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: First of all, the people nominated, Kelly Anne and Jody
Speaker 1: are both people that I'm you know, would like to
Speaker 1: play the game with it, I'm close to. But they
Speaker 1: are also both my roommates, you know. So that was stressful.
Speaker 1: But I was weighing it out, you know, And what
Speaker 1: really it comes down to for me is Kelly Anne
Speaker 1: and I. The reason why we are friends is because
Speaker 1: we're very similar. And I'll just say at point blank,
Speaker 1: like I don't like making tough decisions when I'm put
Speaker 1: in a position of power. I honestly hate it. And
Speaker 1: Kelly Anne is also the same way. She's very watery.
Speaker 1: She's all over the place. I mean, you see the
Speaker 1: paranoia kick in. As soon as you know she knows
Speaker 1: she's on the chopping block, she goes to this person,
Speaker 1: she talks to this person, she comes and talks to me,
Speaker 1: same time. So what you're saying, you guys are very different,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm got seeing in the sense of emotions
Speaker 1: all over the place. I knew I know in this
Speaker 1: game that this is going to be a very tough
Speaker 1: road ahead of me and who out of out of
Speaker 1: the people that I'm choosing against to go in. This
Speaker 1: isn't This isn't like a nomination process like All Stars
Speaker 1: two was like the winners don't nominate, they put the
Speaker 1: nail in the coffin, you know. And for me, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to decide, you know, do I go with my
Speaker 1: friend or do I go with someone who I know
Speaker 1: what she says is true is reliable in this game.
Speaker 1: Jodie and I are very different. We're like the ying
Speaker 1: to the yang. Like. She's very point blake, very logical.
Speaker 1: I'm very emotional, very watery all over the place. Kelly
Speaker 1: and I, Kelly and and I both being that same
Speaker 1: way was was not good for me and I. I
Speaker 1: just think yours is more like yours is more like
Speaker 1: a lake. I feel like you can hide yours better though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, Well, here's the thing. The difference between Kelly,
Speaker 1: Anne and I is I understand that this is a game.
Speaker 1: And that was the biggest difference between past Challenge on
Speaker 1: A and now is Yes, we do have friendships in
Speaker 1: this game. We rely on them to get us further.
Speaker 1: But you know, at a certain point you have to
Speaker 1: figure out what you're playing for. Are you playing for you?
Speaker 1: Are you playing for your family? Or are you playing
Speaker 1: to maintain these friendships? You know outside of this, If
Speaker 1: we're really friends like we say we are, we should
Speaker 1: be friends leaving this game, regardless of what happened, right, Like, right,
Speaker 1: So that was at the point that we were at,
Speaker 1: is like I had already learned that lesson and that's
Speaker 1: where I was, and she, Kelly Anne, was still there
Speaker 1: and this is what I rely on to get me
Speaker 1: further and I need you now. So so two things.
Speaker 1: One in your confessional you said you you were like,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't want Kelly An to play the game.
Speaker 1: You said, right you, You made it a point to
Speaker 1: say that. So with with with knowing that, was it
Speaker 1: any easier to make whatever decision it is that you're
Speaker 1: going to make, no, no, because it's still even though
Speaker 1: even though you don't want to fall back into like
Speaker 1: the old way that I played and fall back into
Speaker 1: your emotions and friendships, it's hard when you're there and yeah,
Speaker 1: with those people, and that's the only thing you rely
Speaker 1: on Because I knew I knew kind of like the
Speaker 1: hard decision that I had to face, and I knew
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do this to a friend. But
Speaker 1: then I also understood, like this is a World Championship.
Speaker 1: It's either going to get ugly now or it's gonna
Speaker 1: get ugly later no matter what I do, No matter
Speaker 1: what I do, this decision that I make is going
Speaker 1: to have consequence yes, and get to be the first
Speaker 1: person to choose Yeah, someone's feelings are harder and decisions
Speaker 1: only get harder as people get more attached to each
Speaker 1: other or maybe not. Did you guys have any agreements
Speaker 1: or anything before coming into the house, because I mean
Speaker 1: we all talk before we go on the show. We
Speaker 1: do you guys have any agreements? So I had. I
Speaker 1: had just found out. I had found out that Kelly
Speaker 1: Ann was come to the World Championship, and you know
Speaker 1: her and I. Here's the thing, her and I had
Speaker 1: talked on the phone, texted, talked on the phone. I
Speaker 1: think a matter of fact, I think I ordered her
Speaker 1: some stuff on Amazon because she was like on vacation
Speaker 1: in like Tahoe or something, and she's like, my stuff.
Speaker 1: Phone gets sense to me in time, Like we had
Speaker 1: talked before, which leads me to another point. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they show this because I didn't watch the
Speaker 1: first episode yet, but leads me to the point that
Speaker 1: you know, when you're first in the house and we're
Speaker 1: all sitting there, I just met Zara, and I just
Speaker 1: met Emily, and we're sitting there getting to know each other,
Speaker 1: and this is where it starts with Kelly an right
Speaker 1: sitting there getting to know each other shooting the ship.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I say something along the lines of,
Speaker 1: you know, this is a hard game, but one thing
Speaker 1: about me is you can trust me in the sense
Speaker 1: that if I say I'm going to do something like
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that you know, I hold
Speaker 1: my word to a high standard. And then immediately Kelly
Speaker 1: and jumps into the conversation and she's just like, actually,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true, and I'm I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: as like a wan or my friend, and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: just meeting these people. She has no filter though, yea
Speaker 1: she doesn't, which is it's like not like she's doing
Speaker 1: it on purpose either, but that's just how which is like,
Speaker 1: here's the thing, it's it's her best quality and maybe
Speaker 1: might be one of the worst in the game for
Speaker 1: her that she is so honest, honest to a fault,
Speaker 1: and it's something that I admire. But in that moment,
Speaker 1: she was like, you know what, what Johnny says is,
Speaker 1: you know, might not be true, and I like look
Speaker 1: at her and I'm like, shut up, a bitch, I'm
Speaker 1: trying that. I'm amazing up here. And you know what's
Speaker 1: scaring about that is because that's your friend. And so
Speaker 1: it carries weight with the people that she's saying it too.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, you maybe you're lying because that yeah.
Speaker 1: To me, I was like, listen, we have talked every
Speaker 1: day leading up to CLI into South Africa, like what
Speaker 1: if this is something that was heavy on your heart.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's something from the Path, maybe it's something from
Speaker 1: All Stars to whatever happened I'm sorry All Stars three.
Speaker 1: Then in those conversations leading up to it, I understand
Speaker 1: we're filming TV show, Like why wouldn't you bring it
Speaker 1: up to me? Then why do you wait into the
Speaker 1: very moment the first time we're in the house, the
Speaker 1: first time I'm talking to new people, to just interject
Speaker 1: and say this, you know. So that started it with
Speaker 1: me and Kelly Ann and right then and there, I
Speaker 1: was just like, Okay, she's going to be all over
Speaker 1: the place just like I am, and in this game,
Speaker 1: like I can barely handle my own all over the
Speaker 1: place emotions like I can't deal with this right now,
Speaker 1: you know. So Wow that was fun. Wow, it's all good.
Speaker 1: It could start. It could be from like All Stars
Speaker 1: one where you guys tied but she didn't believe that
Speaker 1: you guys tied for third. Yeah, two back, but you know,
Speaker 1: it could be from All Stars three to listen, like
Speaker 1: she makes sure to say that too. Did you can't
Speaker 1: that what? She was like, um, you were like, um,
Speaker 1: I won this and I wanted or she said one
Speaker 1: of you said I want this. I wanted. She was
Speaker 1: like yeah, and you tied with me. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh okay. So I feel like no matter how people
Speaker 1: act when they get in, it's like they forgot everything
Speaker 1: else outside of this, and the only thing that matters
Speaker 1: is what happened a million seasons ago. To like, the
Speaker 1: game is like all consuming. Listen. She's coming fresh off
Speaker 1: of All Stars three, right and she you know, her
Speaker 1: and Kendall were in you know, obviously they were lying
Speaker 1: their best friends and then they had this whole alliance
Speaker 1: the Treehouse against them, and here I am in the middle.
Speaker 1: I was kind of close with Kayla and then she,
Speaker 1: like you know, Kelly Anne got targeted a lot, and
Speaker 1: so because of that, you know, I think she's carrying
Speaker 1: that Vaneta and feel like thinking in her head still
Speaker 1: like you know, oh, you screw me over and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I was playing a game. And that's how we have
Speaker 1: to approach this situation as well. And you know, I
Speaker 1: call it post traumatic challenge syndrome. I don't know people
Speaker 1: carry over real happened in the past. Yeah, breaking it
Speaker 1: into whether they say they want to like clean the
Speaker 1: slate or not. It's still off your head. Yeah yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: so hold on, before we go any further, we need
Speaker 1: to take a quick break and we'll be right back
Speaker 1: after this. I don't want this drama to override you
Speaker 1: winning the first daily, okay, So let's fasten to that
Speaker 1: because Mama made it happen, Okay. I was so proud
Speaker 1: of you. Other than the chains obviously being heavy, what
Speaker 1: do you think was the hardest part of it? Because
Speaker 1: you guys got there last and then won the whole thing,
Speaker 1: So what was the most challenging part. So the hardest
Speaker 1: part for me is and I told Grant, because mind you,
Speaker 1: we just became partners. I don't know anything about him.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know anything about me. M I let him know,
Speaker 1: like right away, my shrinks, my weaknesses, you know, weaknesses.
Speaker 1: Not the greatest swimmer, also, not a sprinter anything that's
Speaker 1: like fast running. Like, I'm not your girl. I'm more
Speaker 1: of an endurance girl. So right away we're sprinting through
Speaker 1: sand dunes, you know, and I tell him, I'm like,
Speaker 1: we're not going to make it there first. And he's like, well,
Speaker 1: I hope you're good at this puzzle. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'll take any of them kind of thing. So the
Speaker 1: chains were really heavy. I remember, you know, my first
Speaker 1: FaceTime conversation with like with my family back home, and
Speaker 1: I was wearing like a tank top and I had
Speaker 1: all these bruises, right because that chain was so heavy.
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about the chain is like as
Speaker 1: you pull it through the sand, it like buries itself.
Speaker 1: And so the hardest part for me was definitely you know, interworming,
Speaker 1: moving that chain down like he got there didn't seem
Speaker 1: for y'all. I thought, you guys we're gonna do double
Speaker 1: Dutch with it. But yeah, yeah, you and Kaze. I'm
Speaker 1: saying her name right. You guys were pretty much neck
Speaker 1: and nick hunting up there. How did that feel? And
Speaker 1: to pull out the win against her due at any
Speaker 1: point you think you were gonna lose it because you
Speaker 1: were just pushing brands like come he gotta love Grant.
Speaker 1: He was so positive. He was just like, come on, Johnny.
Speaker 1: I think he was still like at the point we
Speaker 1: had just become partners, still be pronouncing my name a
Speaker 1: little bit, but he's like, come on, you caught this.
Speaker 1: You got it. And I was so tired because, like
Speaker 1: I said, though she's were heavy, the sand, all of it.
Speaker 1: I did hear in the back of my head. I
Speaker 1: could hear voice and it was I mean, Anis, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know this voice very well, but it was
Speaker 1: Jordan yea, and he would catch me, let's go, come on,
Speaker 1: catch me that voice honkey right, But I could hear Jordan.
Speaker 1: He was like, Jay, you better get that bell like
Speaker 1: he was. He was behind me, but he was he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna catch you. I'm gonna catch you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I better get that bell. It almost seemed like he
Speaker 1: didn't he wanted to win, but he didn't really want
Speaker 1: to win, so it wasn't like like totally mad to
Speaker 1: come in second. It's from seas that season thirty eight mentality.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it scared us because we were like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, we gotta make decisions. But Jordan's not afraid
Speaker 1: of the sand, so as you know, as a partner.
Speaker 1: But it does make the ride a little easier after
Speaker 1: coming off of a season that was that was just
Speaker 1: we were in the sand so much, so I could
Speaker 1: understand why. But it is always nice to win that
Speaker 1: first one. I will say thirty eight like that was
Speaker 1: such a mind fuck, the way that game was set up.
Speaker 1: And then so you have these players like you have Tory,
Speaker 1: you have Casey, have Bananas, you have Jordany, you have
Speaker 1: all these people come traumatized, traumatized from the season thirty eight.
Speaker 1: We have a trauma running this house like it is
Speaker 1: a mob. And I was like, this is a different game, guys,
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, it's like in this one it's
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like they don't want to win
Speaker 1: because they don't want to like have that responsibility. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, you want to win. I don't
Speaker 1: you want people don't want to win. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: a target anyway, and there's gonna matter point regard end
Speaker 1: of the game when you have to go against a
Speaker 1: bunch of people. Yeah, yeah, and all and they're all good,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter who you get rid of. You're
Speaker 1: still stuck with a bunch of great teens. So it
Speaker 1: does not matter who you put in. Oh, somebody's feelings
Speaker 1: are gonna get hurt. Well, they're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: the next daily. Yeah, to be able to do something
Speaker 1: to you. I do want to ask you though, going
Speaker 1: back to that daily, because that was your moment. A
Speaker 1: lot of that doing the puzzle took communication, right, How
Speaker 1: is the language marrier or between you and Grant? Let
Speaker 1: me just tell you. Okay, So Grant, if you can
Speaker 1: have him figured out by now, he has a very
Speaker 1: thick Australian accent. Right. So I'm talking to Emily, who
Speaker 1: Emily and Grant are pretty close, right, And Emily explains
Speaker 1: it to me this way. She says, Okay, you know, John, Ay,
Speaker 1: you live in Nashville. There's you know, big cities in
Speaker 1: the US, like you know, New York, La. Whatever. Grant
Speaker 1: is what we call um. She's like, what do you
Speaker 1: guys call it? We call it country. He is from
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, so like she's like, can you
Speaker 1: imagine like people in the south or you know whatever,
Speaker 1: had this super thick accent that you can't understand. She's like,
Speaker 1: that's Grant. But for the Australian. I was like, Okay, Grant,
Speaker 1: it's not just me that can understand him. But let
Speaker 1: me just tell you. So we have like our interviews
Speaker 1: and stuff, right, and We're sitting there and I'm just
Speaker 1: dying laughing at everything he's saying. He's coming out with
Speaker 1: all the all these expressions like a bit how you
Speaker 1: go in And one time he said something about like pissing.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I was pissed, And I was like,
Speaker 1: you mean like pe or like I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was really weird, but m yeah. He the language.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily call it a language very because obviously
Speaker 1: we're both speaking English, but his accent, Man, and all
Speaker 1: of our interviews he had he had the camera people dying,
Speaker 1: he had the sound people dying. I was dying because
Speaker 1: I was like, I have no clue what you're saying. Bro.
Speaker 1: But we'll just go with it. Yeah, there are definitely
Speaker 1: some phrases and words where I'm like, I know that
Speaker 1: means drunk. Oh, and it called ankle biters. I thought
Speaker 1: they were dogs. He men his children the ankle biters.
Speaker 1: I said, I can't how are those children when those
Speaker 1: are little tiny dogs? Did he teach you? And he
Speaker 1: slang like oh yes he did so, like between him
Speaker 1: Emily and Troy and Kiki, like, um, we called it
Speaker 1: a we we just became an Australian team, right, we
Speaker 1: called it Kangaroo court. Um. But I took a notebook
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, Emily, what is a bit
Speaker 1: how you go? And mean? And so I wrote down
Speaker 1: the translations. So I'm like I'm like, oh wait, I
Speaker 1: know what this one is? Like all right, um No,
Speaker 1: It's like if you see somebody and they're either a
Speaker 1: little bit off or they're kind of sick or whatever,
Speaker 1: he'd be like, oh, Anisa is a bit how you
Speaker 1: going today? Jeez? Well, I know what I'm using. I'm
Speaker 1: talking that that notebook of yours with all of us
Speaker 1: right now. Would love to break it out right now.
Speaker 1: So what did you think of the Australian team as
Speaker 1: a whole, Like, how did you feel about listen? We
Speaker 1: have Okay, so who do we have? We have Kiki,
Speaker 1: we have Darrell. Ki just proved herself in elimination to
Speaker 1: the point that all of us were like, damn, nobody
Speaker 1: wants to fuk with Kiki, Like you know, Um, Darrell
Speaker 1: obviously strong, four time champ. We had Troy, I mean
Speaker 1: he won his Australian season. We have Amber, she's a champ. Um,
Speaker 1: Emily's an Olympic swimmer. I mean, yes, one the first season,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at our Australian team and I'm that we're stacked.
Speaker 1: We or they seemed to beat out of everybody. So
Speaker 1: I was I was pretty comfortable, you know, comfortable with
Speaker 1: my team. Um. The thing is, though, you don't really know,
Speaker 1: like what the relationships are, like, like they just came
Speaker 1: off of filming their season. I don't know what they
Speaker 1: went through to get to where they are, right, but um,
Speaker 1: all he know is, you know, looking around at all
Speaker 1: the teams, I'm like, between us and you know, USA,
Speaker 1: even like it's gonna be hard to beat the Australians.
Speaker 1: Not to mention the Australians, they are savages. Australians do
Speaker 1: not give a fuck. Let me just tell you they
Speaker 1: are balls to the wall all the time. They don't
Speaker 1: care who they go against, they don't care what's happening.
Speaker 1: They are love that. So what would be one word
Speaker 1: to describe each team? M like an adjective if you will?
Speaker 1: You mean like each country? Well no not to like
Speaker 1: no no, no, no no, the p team, the team? Okay,
Speaker 1: each country? All right here, we're gonna give you a rundown. Okay, Australians,
Speaker 1: Um okay, So look we're just gonna zoom through it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the names and then you just
Speaker 1: say one't word like like speed Okay, okay, first thing
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna say these people's names wrong. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: in advance. Um Zaren West strong, dude, listen, Zara. I
Speaker 1: don't like I said, I didn't see the first episode,
Speaker 1: but Zara came flying out of those gates. All every
Speaker 1: single guy, like Jordan West, Finance, all of them were like,
Speaker 1: damn did you see her? So like I already knew
Speaker 1: you know, West was a strong player, very strategic whatever,
Speaker 1: and West and Zaza together dangerous, Ben and Casey. That
Speaker 1: was an interesting one for me, Um, I thought I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just nobody knew who No, no, listen, nobody knew
Speaker 1: who Ben was choosing. Everybody was there was like a
Speaker 1: few people were that were under the impression that Ben
Speaker 1: was going to be their partner. But um, strong team.
Speaker 1: I mean, Casey's strong as fuck, like you know, all right,
Speaker 1: Kas and Jordan, Um, I mean I don't know Kas
Speaker 1: at all. I know Jordan is a great competitor obviously,
Speaker 1: So yeah, strong. I can't stay strong for every team.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's how this is gonna go. You're
Speaker 1: gonna do and I'll say the name. Okay, one word, Okay,
Speaker 1: Danny and Tory struck, this is this is becoming. How
Speaker 1: about Ben oh, ben Ha and Jody. I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: they were one of my favorite pairs. I mean, between
Speaker 1: the two of them, I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it'll like translate and show, but ben Hat is a
Speaker 1: very passionate person. He was so he was thrown into
Speaker 1: basically this house of wolves, right, and he between the
Speaker 1: language barrier between what was happening. Ben Hat had just
Speaker 1: like this pure heart and just did not understand, like
Speaker 1: he was just like He's like, okay, I guess it's
Speaker 1: now my time to politic and I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna help. He's great, he's great, but the
Speaker 1: two of them like because Jody's are very like, like
Speaker 1: I said, cut and dry, point blank person, and he's
Speaker 1: very passionate. So listening to their conversations, I was like,
Speaker 1: you guys are hilarious, so hilarious. What is the word
Speaker 1: that we are getting to? Hilarious? Sorry right now, Justine?
Speaker 1: What about Justine and Bananas? Justine and Bananas? You know
Speaker 1: it's so funny? Is Jesse? They didn't show it, but
Speaker 1: Justine was like, you know, I was a big fan
Speaker 1: of the show growing up, and so I'm gonna choose
Speaker 1: Bananas as my partner. So wait, how do you say
Speaker 1: you're old without saying you're old? You're old? I know
Speaker 1: who you are, So Justine, No, I love Justine. Justine
Speaker 1: surprised me, Like she's Oh, she's a powerhouse. She is
Speaker 1: not only a powerhouse, but she is not afraid to
Speaker 1: say what she's thinking. And I love about her. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about Keki and Darrell? Um? Like I said after
Speaker 1: the first elimination, I don't want to fuck with Keiki.
Speaker 1: Um uh no, because she's out of nowhere so fierce.
Speaker 1: Um and Durrell's I love Darrell. Darrell's my boy, who's
Speaker 1: on All the All Stars with me? Um. Durella and
Speaker 1: I are very similar in the sense of, like, you know,
Speaker 1: when it comes to making decisions, we're just like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to upset anybody. Yeah yeah, Keki and Darrell, Um,
Speaker 1: they could be the leaders. They could be the leaders
Speaker 1: of the Kangaroo Court. Oh okay, okay. Rodrigo and Nia, Um,
Speaker 1: let's just say um so. Nia is my girl, right Uh.
Speaker 1: Nia loves to travel. She loves food, all the stuff
Speaker 1: rodri So in his country, like he is like a
Speaker 1: famous chef. Like right away. Oh, these two were like,
Speaker 1: no matter what happens, if we get eliminated, if we don't, like,
Speaker 1: we're going on a food tour of South Africa. Wow.
Speaker 1: They were very um in the house. They were the
Speaker 1: people that were like, let me make you, um this
Speaker 1: fancy drink. I'm gonna make you at Miami Vice. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna blend this. And I was like, yes, I will
Speaker 1: take all the orders and all the the drinks you
Speaker 1: guys were making me. I loved it. So resourceful I'm
Speaker 1: just trying your words the word no, all right Emily
Speaker 1: and yes, um Emily and yes, very strong team I
Speaker 1: can't say strong. Yeah I'm strong. We were intermidated by Emily.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, let's be real, an Olympic swimmer.
Speaker 1: Come on, she is tall. She's I would say her
Speaker 1: and Laurel are very like. She's tall. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: she's taller than yes. Yeah. Well no, no, I don't
Speaker 1: mean it like that. I mean like, I mean, no,
Speaker 1: you met it like that. So that's that's that's team tall.
Speaker 1: Team Troy and Amber. Uh, this is my first time
Speaker 1: meeting Amber doing a season with her, and um, they
Speaker 1: they were all about it. They were team team spirit.
Speaker 1: I see that. I could see that when through in
Speaker 1: the puzzle there were no when she ran off and
Speaker 1: she was like let's go and like or when they
Speaker 1: got there, oh yeah, like there was a very positive
Speaker 1: attitude between both of them. You could see it. Yes,
Speaker 1: so teams team spirit. Troy is so smart. I mean,
Speaker 1: between like Troy and Dio, they would do these like
Speaker 1: chess competitions in the house. I can't even I can't
Speaker 1: even hang And they go for game after game after
Speaker 1: game after game I'm like, somebody's got to get bored.
Speaker 1: I would watch it for hours. Great. They were like
Speaker 1: Cheese's they get are you? They're like he played chests
Speaker 1: and I was like not, not like they taught me,
Speaker 1: but I would sit there and watch game after game,
Speaker 1: trying to find moves you have to be and Logan
Speaker 1: was like, and I am. And Logan was like cheese chess.
Speaker 1: Cheese's the game of life. And I'm like, just say
Speaker 1: that again, and I swear to got to learn it.
Speaker 1: So I would just sit there and watch him and
Speaker 1: dev and play and Logan so good. I mean, Logan
Speaker 1: had beat him like thirty five games to something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was teaching me like how to start. He
Speaker 1: made me download the apptor in Quarantine. I lost a
Speaker 1: few games and he was like that wasn't a good try,
Speaker 1: because that's that's my chest skills. I'm like I can't.
Speaker 1: All right, we got three more. I'll do the last
Speaker 1: name because you may fuck that one up. So I
Speaker 1: got it. Um. Sarah and THEO. Uh they were, like
Speaker 1: I said before, they were the most interesting pair to watch,
Speaker 1: like the two of them, like THEO as like comedic,
Speaker 1: how funny he is like when I tell you, he's
Speaker 1: like Brad to me, like he's like one of those
Speaker 1: people that it doesn't translate on the show. But he
Speaker 1: is so funny. And Sarah's just that she's a very
Speaker 1: um She's funny as well, but it's like a very
Speaker 1: dry sense of humor. So watching them as a team
Speaker 1: come to decisions together, like you know, usually you'd have
Speaker 1: like one dominant person and the other person's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I see how we can work this out. The two
Speaker 1: of them were like, this is what I think, this
Speaker 1: is what I think, and they did not mesh well.
Speaker 1: They had very different games in mind, I think. But
Speaker 1: team opposite yea, the word we got team opposite, John
Speaker 1: Christ Johnny. If they ever had this on the challenge,
Speaker 1: this is the one game that you may lose. I
Speaker 1: would lose a going straight. It's it's gonna be called
Speaker 1: sum it up. And She'll be like, Nope, I can't
Speaker 1: do it. I'll be still there, like but I love
Speaker 1: all of them and this is the great thing, and
Speaker 1: this is the bad thing. But seeing as I see
Speaker 1: all sides of every person personality. So that's an active brain. Girl,
Speaker 1: that's an active that makes for great interviews and great confessionals.
Speaker 1: How about Tristan and Kelly Anne. Oh hilarious? Umm, Kelly
Speaker 1: Anne and Tristan. Uh m hmmm. I don't know who
Speaker 1: was more annoyed by the other person. Yes, they, I
Speaker 1: mean they got along great, but so Tristan. Tristan's a
Speaker 1: very like He's a scorpio too, so he's very like
Speaker 1: you know, Keta's bad like whatever. Kelly Ann's like one
Speaker 1: of those. Okay, if we have a problem, we're talking
Speaker 1: about it right now. This is very upfront. So seeing
Speaker 1: their dynamic as well was hilarious. My name say, like
Speaker 1: the last team annoyed and last but not least Whoie
Speaker 1: and Nelson. Okay, listen, no, I will take back Whoever
Speaker 1: I said before was team Spirit like Whooie is the
Speaker 1: most energetic, most positive vibes, Like craziest person I've ever
Speaker 1: met in the best way possible. Like we we love
Speaker 1: Whoie so tam crazy team crazy spirit. Team like team energy,
Speaker 1: crazy Spirit. I want to say, like team loves life.
Speaker 1: They loved life. Oh okay, okay, well I have crowned
Speaker 1: you and Grant as team parent. How did I feel
Speaker 1: playing How does it feel? Sorry playing this game with
Speaker 1: someone who shares the same goal is your children, who
Speaker 1: shares the same goal as you? How did that feel?
Speaker 1: You know? That's something that like I said, we're still
Speaker 1: getting to know each other's partners, but like still the
Speaker 1: biggest change for me as a person, like you know,
Speaker 1: I've said it time and time again, was becoming a
Speaker 1: mother and somehow finding this inner strength of if I
Speaker 1: can do this, then I can literally do anything like
Speaker 1: challenge what you know, Like I got this and Grant
Speaker 1: told me that you know, he had a two year
Speaker 1: old daughter and that he had a baby on the way,
Speaker 1: and I that was the thing that we we found
Speaker 1: in common that I was like, Okay, so you get it.
Speaker 1: You get that we're here for a bigger purpose. We're
Speaker 1: not just playing to make friends with people. We're not
Speaker 1: just playing to better ourselves the next season like this
Speaker 1: is do or die. You know, we're here for our
Speaker 1: families and that's what we're representing. So is that your
Speaker 1: advice that maybe I should go and get pregnant? So okay,
Speaker 1: I can come back and be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I found this inner state. No, I respect moms all
Speaker 1: the time, Like that shit is hard. You literally worry
Speaker 1: for the minute you get pregnant till for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life. May you literally have to push a
Speaker 1: baby out, carry something and then push it out and
Speaker 1: then feed it. And I mean someone is depending on you.
Speaker 1: It lives because they can't take care of themselves. Ten months,
Speaker 1: six hours of labor, Yeah, it's such an amazing, amazing
Speaker 1: ten months in one week. Damn, you're about to pop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're normally pregnant for ten months anyway, wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: eleven months in one week? Or were you? No, it
Speaker 1: was ten months and we had one extra week. They
Speaker 1: were gonna induce me. And then at one twenty two
Speaker 1: in the morning, and I only remember because it was
Speaker 1: my grandmother's One twenty two is my grandmother's birthday, and
Speaker 1: so my water broke and I was like, well, let's
Speaker 1: go do this, and I remember they the nurse came
Speaker 1: in and she was like, oh, your first time mom.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be here for three or four hours pushing,
Speaker 1: So just just lay back and take your time. And
Speaker 1: I felt like that was a challenge. I pushed kat
Speaker 1: in South in twenty minutes. Don't play with me, happidoral
Speaker 1: or no, Like I said, Jesus Christ, you can do anything.
Speaker 1: You can do anything. I got that girl, I got induced.
Speaker 1: I was like month eight. I was like, get this
Speaker 1: baby out of me. But I that mom, that mommy
Speaker 1: stuff is serious, that parents stuff is serious. That could
Speaker 1: change my view and my perspective of you know, this
Speaker 1: isn't This is no longer a game about you know,
Speaker 1: friends the same. If I can handle this, I can
Speaker 1: handle anything. You have too, little ways I look up
Speaker 1: to you one and two. You got to take care
Speaker 1: of them, and you're doing it all on your own.
Speaker 1: So period, I'm saying, not going to let you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yes, I know you said that this
Speaker 1: game is not about friendships, and I agree, when you
Speaker 1: have a bigger purpose, it's not about friendships. However, let's
Speaker 1: get him say it, Kelly in west situation, do you
Speaker 1: think that it was right for him to vote for
Speaker 1: her being that's her ex like they ain't got no
Speaker 1: kids and but you know they was saying each other
Speaker 1: so at that point, so I wasn't in that nomination.
Speaker 1: And that's the weird thing about this season is that
Speaker 1: you know, if you win or if you lose, you
Speaker 1: can't be a part of all that. And here all
Speaker 1: the dark but you know, I think it probably was
Speaker 1: pretty smart of West at that point if the entire
Speaker 1: house is going one way. And I'm not one to
Speaker 1: like waterfall the votes, but yeah, if already you know,
Speaker 1: everybody is just you know, doing the easy thing, or
Speaker 1: everybody's already doing the same thing, Like, you don't want
Speaker 1: to put that target on your back of rail going
Speaker 1: against what everybody else is doing, especially not with you know,
Speaker 1: people like bananas in the house. So he's like, He's like,
Speaker 1: this is what we're doing. Why ruffle any feathers, this
Speaker 1: is how it's gonna go. So don't want to piss
Speaker 1: anybody off. Right, Wow, if you were down there, do
Speaker 1: you think you also would have put with the flow
Speaker 1: or do you think you would have said something different?
Speaker 1: I mean yes, because so this is what's hard. It's
Speaker 1: like at that point, you know, TJ always has surprises.
Speaker 1: This is the first World Championship. We don't know, like
Speaker 1: what decisions do we make, how they're necessarily going to
Speaker 1: affect us? We don't. I mean I just watch USA
Speaker 1: before coming to this one, right, and so I thought like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be partnered, But like what if at the
Speaker 1: end of it we'll have to switch again, you know. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: we just you know, we got to be the test
Speaker 1: deummies of you know, you just got to make a
Speaker 1: decision and ride with it and rock with it. Right
Speaker 1: so right, So, um, we're at the end of this
Speaker 1: cliffhanger of an episode. Okay, I mean they cut it off.
Speaker 1: It was like a hard cut too. It wasn't like like,
Speaker 1: oh it was a hard yet next on, next on
Speaker 1: the challenge. It was like a slap in the face,
Speaker 1: likes like I had something. You're talking about the sea elimination,
Speaker 1: but we were kidding. They don't us. Yes, do you
Speaker 1: have anything that you can tease any anything crumbs more. Um,
Speaker 1: Let's just say I know at this point, at this
Speaker 1: point in time, um, coming out, you know, being the
Speaker 1: first round draft pick, looking at the Australian team, I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: Grant and I are the team to be and we're
Speaker 1: going to have a lot of heat coming our way
Speaker 1: no matter what decision we make, no matter what we do,
Speaker 1: it's no matter what, this is going to be one
Speaker 1: of the hardest challenges that I've done. So um, let's
Speaker 1: just say things get really interesting because at this point,
Speaker 1: you don't know are you playing for your team, are
Speaker 1: you playing for your country? Are you playing as individuals
Speaker 1: and the only person who matters is your partner. At
Speaker 1: that point, you still don't know what TJ has in
Speaker 1: store for us. So that's the thing. As a Challenger,
Speaker 1: you have to be able to be a chameleon. You
Speaker 1: have to be able to adapt as things are throwing
Speaker 1: your way. So yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting for all
Speaker 1: of you to see what happens. I'm excited. I'm excited
Speaker 1: if you're taking ass again and things you like, like
Speaker 1: how like so they have like the book and like
Speaker 1: after All Stars three, the back to back when I'm
Speaker 1: literally like all right, guys, and how I'm done, gonna
Speaker 1: go be a mom now? And then then you were like, psych,
Speaker 1: you're just qualified for the World Championship. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, for me, it was like my in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is my one chance of my opportunity,
Speaker 1: Like I would love to come back as like this
Speaker 1: new Challenger and go back to the Flagship show and
Speaker 1: you know, test myself and test my abilities. But to
Speaker 1: be honest as a mom, you know, filming for the
Speaker 1: twelve weeks, I can't do that, So For me, the
Speaker 1: Global Championship was about too. It is about upping the
Speaker 1: level of competition, you know, up from All Stars, but
Speaker 1: still having that shorter experience. Yeah, because definitely it might
Speaker 1: be harder than the Flagship. I mean that's whole thing,
Speaker 1: like All Stars Flagship, like they're all hard, yeah, Dart,
Speaker 1: none of them are easy. I don't understand why both
Speaker 1: Art and go to All Stars. I'm like, because that's
Speaker 1: it's hard, too, dummy, rum and why not challenge yourself
Speaker 1: on all of those levels, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you you now are an incredible challenger, so like
Speaker 1: you might as well do what you want. The biggest
Speaker 1: difference is time. We could shoot that shit in a month,
Speaker 1: five weeks like we used to. I would be I
Speaker 1: would love it. I'd do a million a year and
Speaker 1: we would only do one a year then, So I mean,
Speaker 1: kudos back out the bigger now though. Yeah, no, we
Speaker 1: had thirty people. We just did Challenge from the gate.
Speaker 1: We did it four challenges a week though in four eliminations.
Speaker 1: Oh oh gosh, yes you too, challenge Elimination challenge, elimination
Speaker 1: challenge and back to that. That's baby. There wasn't as
Speaker 1: big of a setup. You didn't have to do walk ups.
Speaker 1: Not everybody had a match, you didn't have to do
Speaker 1: oh shit. So then once a bitch pissed you off,
Speaker 1: you were like, I'm gonna see you when THEO gone,
Speaker 1: bitch tonight, Come on, TJ. Let me go spin the wheel.
Speaker 1: I know I have four chances of getting something the same,
Speaker 1: four chances every week, not a contraption with lights, not
Speaker 1: a soord like with you know, season thirty eight, just
Speaker 1: wrapping and now actually watching out. It was like, damn,
Speaker 1: um girl, it was one. It was one for the
Speaker 1: books for sure. I'm so happy that book is fucking
Speaker 1: closed and welcome to the Global Champion Shop. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: John A, before you leave us, and I really appreciate
Speaker 1: you coming on because of face and I love it. Um.
Speaker 1: What are your socials? Where can people follow you support you? Well?
Speaker 1: As we all know, I'm terrible at social media, but
Speaker 1: my Instagram handle is at John A. Mannion so j
Speaker 1: O N N A m A N N island um
Speaker 1: and that's pretty much the only social media I have.
Speaker 1: I have Twitter, but I just read what other people say.
Speaker 1: That makes that makes two out of three of us
Speaker 1: that are loved on Twitter. I am not deleted off
Speaker 1: my phone and I forget my password, So talk to
Speaker 1: your shit because I can't see it. All right, all right, well, Johnny,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you and Grant are going to have
Speaker 1: a lovely season. I cannot wait to see what you
Speaker 1: guys do, and hopefully we're not having a cliffhanger every week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like this that's the direction it because I'm
Speaker 1: going to need tea with every episode. I'm stressed, right.
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to hang with a Johnny. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad I finally got an opportunity to meet you.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for Yeah, nic you me.
Speaker 1: You hopefully meet in person. Hopefully I see you soon.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yes, I miss you. Miss you guys.
Speaker 1: Have a good day. Thank you. That was an incredible
Speaker 1: interview with john A. She always delivers. She has such
Speaker 1: a great spirit. I'm so glad that she could take
Speaker 1: time out of her busy vacation talk to us. Yes,
Speaker 1: littlo us, it was a great episode. Anissa, tell the
Speaker 1: people where they can find you on the social media's
Speaker 1: only on Instagram because like I said before, I don't
Speaker 1: know my Twitter password, So effort you can find me
Speaker 1: at Anissa MTV. That's a n E s A MTV
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Davon where can they find you? Follow you,
Speaker 1: show you some love sleep That's where I like to be.
Speaker 1: Outside of that, you can find me on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Dave Davon Underscore or Instagram at Davon Diane Underscore. And
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