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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program that takes you inside

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Speaker 1: NRG Stadium wherever the Texans are, well, maybe not wherever

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Speaker 1: they are, because they might be all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Still with them reporting on Monday for offseason workouts, Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandermer with you with John Harris and we are ready

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Speaker 1: to rock with Texans Radio. Johnny, I'm excited about Monday.

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Speaker 1: The team's gonna be back in the building. I presume

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Speaker 1: a great amount of Texans will be here, close to

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent attendance, and I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: I know you are too. Yeah, why it's weird, I

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Speaker 1: hadn't thought. I mean, I knew it was August eleventh,

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Speaker 1: or that was the day, tenth to leventh, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: I knew that was the date, but I just didn't

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Speaker 1: put it together that, oh my gosh, we're a week

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Speaker 1: away from that. So, yeah, it's gonna be cool. School

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Speaker 1: so we'll see exactly what they end up doing for

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Speaker 1: that time and how much we're able to go out

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Speaker 1: there and see it. But looking forward to seeing all

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Speaker 1: the differ different players and seeing the different faces and

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Speaker 1: then them looking at us like who are you? And

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Speaker 1: then them figuring out who we are and hopefully creating

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Speaker 1: a friendship and working relationship at that point. So we'll see. Well,

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Speaker 1: I brought it up because I feel the buzz already.

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Speaker 1: You know, we see the guys walking around the hallways,

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys working out anyway from the get go,

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Speaker 1: and with everything going on in the building, rodeo and

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Speaker 1: then the Final Four, and believe me, the downstairs service

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Speaker 1: level hallways to the listeners look very different from event

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Speaker 1: to event. The rodeo is all decked out in one

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Speaker 1: kind of decor, and then the Final Four came in

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Speaker 1: here completely transformed the place with carpeting and they papered

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Speaker 1: every wall you could imagine, and it was just bizarre

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Speaker 1: to see the transition. And then you still see the

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Speaker 1: medicine balls lined up in the hallway where the players

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Speaker 1: smashed them against the wall as part of their daily workout.

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Speaker 1: But the whole squad set to report on Monday. It's

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Speaker 1: not mandatory, of course, it's offseason conditioning, but we expect

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Speaker 1: Close to one. All right, my friend, a lot of craziness,

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Speaker 1: and as I said yesterday, the longer we wait for

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Speaker 1: the draft, the more crazy reports you're gonna get, and

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Speaker 1: people talking themselves and other people into various theories. And

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Speaker 1: some of this reporting might have some truth to it,

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Speaker 1: but they take it in or run with it. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready to dissect these recent reports and decide whether

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Speaker 1: they're true or not or just I don't know, have

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Speaker 1: some banter about them. Let's go. Let's do it all right.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Peter King, Now this has gotten a

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Speaker 1: lot of traction. Peter King reporting that maybe Nick as

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Speaker 1: Sarrio at two because he talked to league personnel people

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Speaker 1: who thought this is a possibility. And by possibility, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's a possibility we could get hit by an

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Speaker 1: asteroid sometimes soon. I mean, I don't know how to

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Speaker 1: hit by an asteroid, but he thought that Nick as

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Speaker 1: Srio could possibly pass up a quarterback in two, take

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson, and then do something else later. Likelihood of

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Speaker 1: this kind of thing happening, Johnny, Well, I've said this

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Speaker 1: many times as it pertains to the NFL Draft, nothing

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Speaker 1: surprises me, especially as it pertains to Nick and the Texans. Now,

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Speaker 1: because Nick is so good about keeping thoughts inside the

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Speaker 1: so that you just, you know, I know people you know,

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Speaker 1: little bit that had both of our picks last year.

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Speaker 1: And he was able to pinpoint those because of information

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Speaker 1: so many people that being Lands Airline will talk about

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Speaker 1: him a little bit. But Lance, there's so many people

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Speaker 1: And that kind of raised his eyebrows as if to say, well,

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Speaker 1: wait a second, this sounds logical, Okay, I think they

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Speaker 1: could do this. So in his final moch he actually

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Speaker 1: does not have a quarterback. Peter King mentions it, I've

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Speaker 1: It's an option, and I just don't know that I

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Speaker 1: just hearing what Bruce Feldon's mock had to say about

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Speaker 1: it just got me really excited about one of those

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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. So is it possible? Yes, And I'm not

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Speaker 1: not like we are absolutely, without a doubt a quarterback

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Speaker 1: got to have a quarterback in a face of the

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Speaker 1: franchise guy, you know, Davis for the last couple of

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Speaker 1: things this past year that, man, we've got to be

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Speaker 1: those two quarterbacks, Bryce Young and c j S get

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Speaker 1: us there but or get to that point. But would

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Speaker 1: surprise me that Nick didn't take a quarterback. No, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. And in fact, I thought at the combine,

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Speaker 1: In fact, I said this to you twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: if that would fit. So how would I feel about

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't love it if Bryce Young is available there too.

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Speaker 1: I want to take Bryce Young. But let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this as an evaluator, Johnny, what's more, never mind need?

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Speaker 1: What's more of a sure thing at their possession position?

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson, Jalen Carter or Stroud or Young shs thing? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is the surest thing at his particular position. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is his on field work. I I've said

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks are not far behind. I think you hate the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel pretty good now again, we've talked

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Speaker 1: you know is that is. I don't know how that

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Speaker 1: don't know how any of that went down. And I

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Speaker 1: you can't live like that, but you just don't know.

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Speaker 1: I am personally so I don't know that Nick or

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Speaker 1: know that I'm at peace with that kind of dynamic

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Speaker 1: because if that came into play, that means he's balling

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Speaker 1: out and playing great. Right, well, you're drafted him now.

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Speaker 1: If he plays that well, great and then you'll deal

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Speaker 1: All right, let me throw this one at you. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, I wouldn't not take a quarterback at

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Speaker 1: else that you know you can get Hendon Hooker. I

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Speaker 1: take another player. That's the only way I see that happening,

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Speaker 1: all right. That was Peter King's report. Johnny Lance, you

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Speaker 1: talked about him. He had a mock where the Texans

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Speaker 1: take Tyree Wilson at two. So there's a defensive player

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Speaker 1: that's a lie in the ointment and obviously an excellent player,

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Speaker 1: but that's a very high pick for Tyree Wilson, at

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Speaker 1: or he had the Texans moving up from twelve to

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Speaker 1: take Will Levis at seven. So Tyree Wilson at two,

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Speaker 1: will Levis at seven. You mentioned at Lance got both

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Speaker 1: or four for four. Yeah, well, of course I texted

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Speaker 1: is awful. I would much rather have Anthony Richardson at

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Speaker 1: Richie there. Yeah he was, he was. He went a

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Speaker 1: little bit later. Oh in, but will he be Will

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Speaker 1: he be there at seven? I don't think so. Man,

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Speaker 1: the way this thing is, the way this thing is

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Speaker 1: kind of going. I it's hard to say I can't

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Speaker 1: get a I really can't. Just when you feel like,

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Speaker 1: oh I got this thing kind of licked and you're like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's the philosophy of no quarterback at

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Speaker 1: could see it. It's something I've talked about. I've mentioned

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Speaker 1: it in a number of ways, like, don't take quarterback

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Speaker 1: move up from twelve to go get a guy. Here's

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Speaker 1: the thing you mentioned about a guy you know will

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Speaker 1: be there at twelve. The thing about knowing whether a

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be there at twelve, then that means that

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Speaker 1: you're probably the only team in the league that assesses

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Speaker 1: him at that particular high level. So I've watched more

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Speaker 1: handed Hooker the last couple of days, just going back

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Speaker 1: That's the McCorkell Jones that played tennis in Jacksonville and

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Speaker 1: out with Mac this year, guess what I've said this before,

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Speaker 1: twenty four quarterback class is pretty aren't good and there

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Speaker 1: would be somebody that quarterback class that could go to

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Speaker 1: New England and do some things if Mac they find

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Speaker 1: out is not that guy. So I think the best

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Speaker 1: thing the Patriots do at this point is sit back, relax,

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Speaker 1: let that off true offensive coordinator work with a quarterback

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Speaker 1: and see where it goes. And if it doesn't go anywhere,

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Speaker 1: Lebrin's not going anywhere, so would be Mac Jones at

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Speaker 1: that point that would get moved. So if Hoyer supported him,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's why he became a free man and now

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Speaker 1: he's a Raider. Two year deal Brian Hoyer, I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: are they familiar with Brian Hoyer? I like Brian look,

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Speaker 1: I like him. I'm just thinking two year deal in Vegas?

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Speaker 1: Is that really necessary? Was there a market for Brian Hoyer?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Maybe maybe so, but it feels

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Speaker 1: like looking at Hoyer's career, there was a stretch where

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Speaker 1: he did end up with Kyle Shanahan in Cleveland for

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Speaker 1: that year in twenty fourteen when we faced him. Other

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Speaker 1: than that, it's been a it's been a belichick o.

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Speaker 1: Brian Josh McDaniels sort of swap cut all the way

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Speaker 1: around in some sense, so it's not surprising that he

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Speaker 1: ended up somewhere in the family. But I just always

448
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Speaker 1: felt that Brian Hoyer would be the perfect adult in

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Speaker 1: the room for Bailey, Zappie and Mac Jones, like he's

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Speaker 1: the perfect guy. So when he was let go, I thought,

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Speaker 1: this is weird, this is sort of strange. The fact

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Speaker 1: that he ends up with the Raiders is not strange

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Speaker 1: at all. But then when you read what happened or

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Speaker 1: what could have been happening, it made a ton of sense.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, did it happen, don't know, but

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Speaker 1: I could see Brian Hoyer sticking up for his guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, being that guy saying, hey, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: is this really fair? We did we just do this

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Speaker 1: this young dude. So I can see them parting ways

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Speaker 1: at that point in him going to the Raiders' Brian's

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Speaker 1: the adult I would want in a room as my

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Speaker 1: backup if I had to. I wouldn't mind that opportunity

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Speaker 1: in Houston to be a backup, you had to, but

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that we have Case keenan to

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Speaker 1: do that. I love it that we have Case all

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Speaker 1: Right coming up on the show, Jonathan Alexander from the

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Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle covers the Texans. Will get to know him,

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Speaker 1: get his thoughts on the offseason, and then let's get

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Speaker 1: to some beyond the blue lot stuff, including bucketless sporting

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Speaker 1: item or sporting event going on this week. Maybe two

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Speaker 1: of them will discuss it's all coming up here on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio, all right in the next few shows, next

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Speaker 1: few weeks, maybe forever, we'll check in with members of

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Speaker 1: the local media covering the Houston Texans, and today from

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Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle, Jonathan Alexander, you've read his stuff. Relatively

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Speaker 1: new to town, he's been here under a year, but

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Speaker 1: he started his coverage of the NFL with the Carolina

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Speaker 1: Panthers for the Charlotte Observer. So let's get into it

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Speaker 1: with Jonathan Alexander and go back to North Carolina, shall we.

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Speaker 1: That was at the Chartte Observer covering the Pandas for

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Speaker 1: two years from July twenty twenty to June twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: So two years Mint started middle Pandemic and then two

483
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Speaker 1: poor seasons that year, but interesting nonetheless covering a team. Yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: what was that like, covering that phase of the franchise's development.

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Speaker 1: You're coming out of the Cam Newton era and then oh,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, he comes back for a little bit

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Speaker 1: and I know you broke that story right for the

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Speaker 1: Charlotte Observer. Yeah, correct, So you know he knew Cam

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Speaker 1: new was the fate was the probably most beloved player

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Speaker 1: in franchise history, definitely had it was most controversial. So yeah,

491
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: that franchise was looking for another Cam Newton, and then

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Speaker 1: that opportunity kind of came. They were struggling finding in

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Speaker 1: another quarterback. They kept failing and missing, and then the

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Speaker 1: question was always out there whether Cam Newton, whether they'd

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Speaker 1: give him a call, And you know, I kind of

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Speaker 1: found out. I got a great tip and kind of

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Speaker 1: confirmed it with three sources. Back then. It was probably

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Speaker 1: one of the best breaks of my life. And he

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Speaker 1: came back and fans were rejumated for that free time,

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Speaker 1: and then it kind of mellowed out, you know, when

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Speaker 1: they didn't have success with him. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: tough for him, tough for the Panthers to put somebody

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Speaker 1: in the middle, to put somebody in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the season and expect him to do well. But you know,

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Speaker 1: that's what happens, and he's still trying to find his

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Speaker 1: way on another team. Jonathan Alexander joining us from the

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Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle covers the Houston Texans, and Jonathan Brooks Kabina

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Speaker 1: also on the beat. So how do you guys divide

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Speaker 1: up these duties? I know the fans read your stuff

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Speaker 1: at the Chronicle, but how do you divide up the

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Speaker 1: job description between the two of you With the Texans. Yeah, really,

512
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: we kind of just split it down the middle. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, really whoever can get something, and we you know,

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Speaker 1: we also have kind of separate sources, so if something

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Speaker 1: may fall into somebody's source category, somebody may try to

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Speaker 1: take that on. Um. You know, Brooks has a really

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Speaker 1: good knowledge of Houston sports history. He grew up in Houston.

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Speaker 1: He knows the Texans, he grew up, you know, watching

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Speaker 1: the Texans, So he has that that deep knowledge that

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have. I come from an outsider's perspective,

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Speaker 1: from a league wide view, have league sources kind of um,

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Speaker 1: and I'm still kind of getting to know Houston sources

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Speaker 1: as well. I hope to be up to that standard

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Speaker 1: pretty soon. But um, we kind of we kind of

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Speaker 1: just split it whatever our expertise is. We kind of

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Speaker 1: like the same things. We both like feature stories, so um,

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Speaker 1: it's it's more so kind of splitting down the middle

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Speaker 1: and find wherever areas, wherever situation arises, whatever area that

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Speaker 1: person has, h knows, whatever source, that's how we'll take

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Speaker 1: it on. Well, you come into Texans history at an

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Speaker 1: interesting time, to say the least, as you joined the

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Speaker 1: Chronicle during the Lovey Smith Many era as it was.

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Speaker 1: But here we are with Demiko Ryan, So what do

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Speaker 1: you make of what the Texans are going through this

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Speaker 1: offseason with the hiring of Demiko, some of the acquisitions

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Speaker 1: so far and as we headed to the draft. Jonathan, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, the last two years Texans

538
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Speaker 1: were in a tough situation, you know, looking at it

539
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Speaker 1: now outside and you lose you know, trade way Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback, he goes through his issues of his

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Speaker 1: own that were well documented and you basically have to

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Speaker 1: start over. And during that time period where there was

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Speaker 1: a certainty over Deshar Watson. The Texans obviously struggled to get,

544
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Speaker 1: you know, the coach that they obviously sawt you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the top tier guys on the market. Both

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Speaker 1: David Culley and Lovey Smith were well respected, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think that they were the top among the Texas

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Speaker 1: list when they were looking for coaches, and I think

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Speaker 1: that was in large part the fact they couldn't get it.

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Speaker 1: It was in large part because of the Shaun Watson situation.

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Speaker 1: Now you have that clear, you have a bevy of

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Speaker 1: draft picks and you don't have to really worry about that,

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Speaker 1: and this hiring cycle comes open and they have their

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Speaker 1: pick of choices. It just so happens Jamiko Ryans, who's

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Speaker 1: coming out one of the most more impressive seasons with

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, is they're available. He's their guy.

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Speaker 1: He played for the franchise and he wanted to be

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00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,239
Speaker 1: with the Texans too, and it was a right fit.

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00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: It was a perfect timing and I think the Texans

560
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Speaker 1: right now are in a situation where they can continue

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Speaker 1: to build. They got two draft pick, two first round

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Speaker 1: draft picks, and each of the decks two drafts number

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Speaker 1: two and twelve. This year and they can really build

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Speaker 1: something if they land on these draft picks. It is

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Speaker 1: a matter of whether they land on these draft picks.

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Speaker 1: I thought they got some good free agents, some quality guys,

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Speaker 1: some guys who I do have a little bit concerns about. However,

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Speaker 1: they have been good at previous stops, so we'll see you.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a building process and it really will

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Speaker 1: determine that number two pick. If they could land that

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Speaker 1: right quarterback, I think they can, they can have a

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Speaker 1: lot of success. Jonathan Alixander, joining us from the Houston Chronicle,

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Speaker 1: covers the Houston Texans. Jonathan, everybody asks me who are

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Speaker 1: they going to take? Everybody asks you. I know this.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you go, you go to the store, they find

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Speaker 1: out what you do. They want to know who they're

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Speaker 1: going to take. What do you think is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I know you're not in the prediction business necessarily, but

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Speaker 1: I know you probably have some strong opinions about picks

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Speaker 1: number two and twelve in particular. Yeah, I really believe

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Speaker 1: that the Texans really like Um Bryshaw. I think they

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Speaker 1: like C. J. Strout as well, but I think they

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Speaker 1: would prefer brysham Um. You know, Bryshawn's Alabama guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: you hear Damika Ryan's talk about Bryce Young and the

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Speaker 1: type of player he is, and and and when I

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Speaker 1: look back on you know what Nicki Sario and what

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Speaker 1: Damika Ryan's kind of look for in the player. They

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Speaker 1: look at a guy's character and look at the leadership,

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Speaker 1: They look at how his team follows them. And we

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Speaker 1: obviously know that they need a quarterback. They have to

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Speaker 1: have a starting quarterback for this year, so that's obviously

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Speaker 1: where they'd likely had. Let you look at Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: and everything that everybody says about him. He's a leader,

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Speaker 1: he's a problem solver, and the Texans need a guy

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Speaker 1: who can start. They one brys Young fits that mold.

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Speaker 1: I think CJ. Strouss gonna be a great quarterback. The

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Speaker 1: size would definitely concern me about brys Young, but I

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Speaker 1: think the Texans, as you heard from Demiko Ryans at

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Speaker 1: the owner's meetings, he's not concerned about the size. I

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Speaker 1: think he's their top option. I think you got the

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Speaker 1: Panthers are in a situation too. They like both Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young and CJ. Stroud. I do think that some of

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Speaker 1: their people prefer CJ. Stroud over Bryce Young, but I

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Speaker 1: do think they have some people who like Bryights Young,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna be an interesting discussion. I

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Speaker 1: think that they're also looking at what the Texans are doing.

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Speaker 1: They're they're wondering if the Texans prefer Bryights Young, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna probably try to see if the Texans will

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Speaker 1: want to do a trade. But ultimately, I think in

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Speaker 1: the end, I think everybody will get what they want.

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Speaker 1: Panthers probably would get CJ. Stroud, Texans would get Bryce Shown,

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Speaker 1: and I think twelve is gonna be interesting. Whoever is

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Speaker 1: the top available defensive lineman or wide receiver there. I

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Speaker 1: think that's where the Texans will go because I think

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Speaker 1: there will be some good value there and then we'll

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Speaker 1: address one of their many needs. They need a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: they need a defensive end. Well, Jonathan, the Texans will

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Speaker 1: play the Panthers, they play the whole NFC South this year,

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Speaker 1: And having been at the Charlotte Observer and with insight

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Speaker 1: into their organization, what did you think of what they

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Speaker 1: went through last year in the pursuit of Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: and into this year with what they're doing with the

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Speaker 1: new coaching staff as they look for a quarterback after

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Speaker 1: trading up. Yeah, I think they're deathbriate. I think that

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Speaker 1: they've seen these past few years, particularly David Tepper's time

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Speaker 1: since parting ways with Cam Newton, that you can't win

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Speaker 1: without the quarterback. And you know, last year was a

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Speaker 1: little bit of an impossible situation. They picked eight and

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Speaker 1: there were not many high ranking quarterbacks in that draft.

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Speaker 1: But this year, I think the thought is that they're

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Speaker 1: at least two starting caliber quarterback CJ. Stroud and and

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Speaker 1: and Brys Young and possibly Will Levis and Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 1: who were a little bit more of kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: wild cards. I think that you know, they think that

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Speaker 1: this is the time now that they can do that,

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Speaker 1: and they're tired of of of you know, playing all

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Speaker 1: these kind of games and and taking all these chances

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00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: and rentals, and they want to get it right now.

639
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: And I think it probably made the most sense, Like

640
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: you want to trade up to get the best possible option,

641
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: and having a number one pick allows them to get

642
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: the best possible option. I think the Texans are in

643
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: just a good of a situation because I don't think

644
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: that there's that much of a gap in between CJ.

645
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: Stroud and Bright Shank. I think both of those guys,

646
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: from everybody I've talked to, from the film I've watch,

647
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: both of those guys seem like they have the potential

648
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: health providing can be solid pros. Jonathan Alexander with the

649
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle. Whether it's Jonathan, you mentioned it outside looking in,

650
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: you get to Houston, you're a young man living here

651
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: now covering the Texans. What do you think of Houston

652
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: as a sports town and as a town in general.

653
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: It's a place to live as a sports town. I

654
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: think they're passionate fan base who will make it known

655
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: when they're not pleased with, you know, the product on

656
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: the field. You know, the Rockets obviously haven't been good

657
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: m past few years since James Harden left, Texans haven't

658
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: been good. But you know when they have some hope,

659
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: you know, Dey'll ride for their team. You can see

660
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: the kind of excitement building up around Demika Rights and

661
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: the hope is there. Um So, I think it's definitely

662
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: a passionate um you know fan base, and the Astros

663
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: of course have crazy fans like they are, they are

664
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: definitely passionate. I'm I'm I'm personally a Braves fan, so

665
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: I get in a lot of forms with Astros fans.

666
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: I think it's it's fun. Um. Houston as a as

667
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: a city in general is great. Man, I love it. Um.

668
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, my sister had been here for six or

669
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: seven years, so I got a chance to come a

670
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: little bit, but never got a chance to really dive

671
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: into it like I have now. And I think it's great.

672
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: The food is awesome. Um. I do have a different

673
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: opinion on burgers and fast food restaurants. Water burger is

674
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: not my taste. But you know the text mex that

675
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: that that Houston has. Um, the sushi, the all the

676
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: different type of cuisines Mexican food. I love it here. Um,

677
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: it's been great so far. All right, So where were

678
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: you at before the Charlotte Observer. So before the Sharotte Observer,

679
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: I was at the News and Observer in Raleigh, North Carolina,

680
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,959
Speaker 1: and I spent the first seven years in my career

681
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: there during various beats from news to college basketball, covered

682
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: Duke in Carolina for a number of years. All right, Well,

683
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: it's great to visit with you. Look forward to seeing

684
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: you around the circuit here. And I know do some

685
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: more talking, and best of luck covering the draft. Jonathan,

686
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: absolutely thanks for having me. Mark great visit with Jonathan

687
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Speaker 1: Alexander of the Houston Chronicle. There, all right, let's get

688
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: back into it with John Harris, will go beyond the

689
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: Blue lot talk Final four, Jim Nance, maybe some Masters

690
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: and some other stuff next here on Texans Radio. Our

691
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: final segment here on Texans Radio. Hope you're having a

692
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: good day. I hope you're having a better day than

693
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell and the ares of the Cardinals. Anyway, let's

694
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: get to some stories. Here's John Harris rejoins us on

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Speaker 1: the program. Johnny, first of all, Final four. In the books,

696
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: we mentioned it. They're moving out of the building here,

697
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: which is kind of nice for us to see. So

698
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: we get our building back, or parts of it, including

699
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio Pure studio that CBS was using

700
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: during the Final Four. It's over. Jim Nance calls his

701
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: last Final Four, but he's on his way to Augusta,

702
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: So there's that for him. Lives a nice life as

703
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: a broadcaster. Do you have any kind of sentimental feelings

704
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: about Nance not doing the Final Four anymore? Now? Do

705
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: not think so? I mean, I appreciate what Jim has

706
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: always done, and that's great. He's always given gravitoss to

707
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: the event, whichever event he has called, and so I

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00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: wish him, wish him well. He's still gonna be doing

709
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: the Masters, as far as I know, he's still gonna

710
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: be doing the NFL. He's gonna stay busy. He's just

711
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: taking one element off his plate. And by the way,

712
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: Ian Eagle is gonna be doing that going forward. And

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Speaker 1: I thought, and I love Jim Nance. I thought during

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Speaker 1: the tournament, I thought I and Eagle was outstanding. I

715
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: thought Brian Anderson and Jim Jackson together were incredibly good.

716
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: So I think they're moving upward, moving onward. I think

717
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: Iron Eagle is one of the best in the game.

718
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: I think his son is gonna be extremely good. It's

719
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: hard to tell the difference between the two. So Jim Nance,

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Speaker 1: thank you because he gave He gave the event the

721
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: gravitass it needed, and so all of them all the

722
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: way through this one, especially one that took place in

723
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: where he went to college, right here in sometown of Houston's.

724
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: So it's good thumbs up. But I'm ready for an

725
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: Eagle stepping into that role. I think Nance is so

726
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: elite at golf, he's so much better than everybody else

727
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: at that sport. The other sport, it's hard to be

728
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: better or that much better than everybody else, right, And

729
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: that's nothing against him at all. He's amazing. But in golf,

730
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: it's just another level. It's another level of excellence and

731
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: delivery and the Masters this week, Johnny, and I want

732
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: to ask you this because Drew Doherty I saw a

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00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: screen up and we were just talking about what was

734
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: on it, and he had all the prices of the

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Speaker 1: food at Augusta National. Now, maybe this is me being

736
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: jelly and bitter that I'm not there, But when they

737
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: make such a big deal about pimento cheese sandwich is

738
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: only costing a dollar fifty, I kind of want to

739
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: vomit a little bit because I'm thinking, yes, so what

740
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: you still got to get there to Augusta National. Don't

741
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: dangle that in front of me like I can just

742
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: take a drive and walk into the grounds and order

743
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: myself a pedimental cheese sandwich for a buck fifty. I

744
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: still have to fly there, get tickets, stay somewhere. It's

745
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: it's mortgage busting Branks truck rolling stuff to get to

746
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: Augusta National. So big deal that the food is cheap.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that. I mean, like,

748
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: that's great if you can get in, I mean, that's

749
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: that's fantastic. I mean, it's definitely an event I'd love

750
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: to be able to go to one day. But getting in,

751
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the number of people that I've known for

752
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: years are like, Man, I've been in the lottery or

753
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: whatever the system is for twenty years and I've never

754
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: gotten tickets or whatever. And I mean, to have seen

755
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods and Augusta must have been just incredible. Must

756
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: be incredible. But this is just an event. Really. It

757
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: could be a bunch of shmows out there, but it's

758
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: just it's Augusta and it's so it's just awesome. It's

759
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: really awesome. And I think when you win there or

760
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: you compete at a high level there, it makes you.

761
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: And so hopefully there'll be some players that we go

762
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: in there and go, wait, who's that and at the

763
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: end of it, we're going, oh, yeah, I'm big fans

764
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: of this particular golfer. So that to me is what

765
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: I always look forward to. The Masters It's always fun

766
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: when you get the heavyweights going at it. But it

767
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: I love it when there's somebody that steps up and

768
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, who's that guy. I don't love him,

769
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: but he keeps making shots at Augusta, So I like that.

770
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Speaker 1: But if I ever get in one day, yeah, I'm

771
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: a Pimento sandwich on wonderbread or whatever it is. Yeah.

772
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: I only like the no name doing well if he

773
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: backs it up and becomes a success and everything else.

774
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, I don't like these one hit wonders

775
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: at the Masters. Don't ruin my Sunday with some one

776
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: hit wonder and have him never do anything else again.

777
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: Danny Willett, don't ever do that. Mike Weir. I know

778
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: he's done a few things, but come on, I want

779
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: somebody's going to become a long term star. By the way,

780
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Speaker 1: eighteen live golfers in the field, including six former champs

781
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: who are having I guess the dinners tonight, right, the

782
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: champions dinner. So they're having dinner with the PGA players tonight.

783
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: This is gonna be awesome. You want to talk about

784
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: reality television, that would be something, all right. A couple

785
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: of other final beyond the Blue Loot notes here on

786
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: Texans Radio. So with the final four being here, women's hoops,

787
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: we've been talking about that as well. We would be

788
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: talking about that anyway, because everybody is. And I just

789
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: think that number that they got for the championship is

790
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: so impressive. Beats the Thursday night Amazon TV total viewer average,

791
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: which is really tremendous. But I know it's not apples

792
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: to apples. You have over the year television versus a streamer,

793
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: and that was the first year of it. Still it's

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Speaker 1: women's basketball, Johnny. I thought that was really something, and

795
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: if there was no WNBA in existence, they'd be talking

796
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: about one right now. Based on these TV numbers that

797
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: the regional finals and the finals got, I'm impressed and

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Speaker 1: I'm eager to see what they do with it. Your thoughts, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think helping the event obviously is a player the

800
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: caliber at Kaitlin Clark, having somebody at that level. She

801
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: handled it well, by the way, the pushback, the backlash,

802
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: I mean she said, yeah, I said, I don't blame

803
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: anybody on LSU's team. I mean absolutely stuff. Yeah, I

804
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: mean exactly. And it's funny when you actually go to

805
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: the person who did the act and you realize, oh, yeah,

806
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: she didn't have any issue with it, then why should we?

807
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: But it was it was incredible. I mean I watched

808
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: a game from beginning to end and watching her play,

809
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: but watching the way that they shared the basketball, the

810
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: shot making, the shot making was unbelievable. I mean, LSU

811
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: got hot, but I it was a really fun game

812
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: to watch. I watched the final, the LSU, not LSU,

813
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: the South Carolina Iowa game. I saw the last kind

814
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: of part of that. I just was. I was in thrall.

815
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Speaker 1: But I have been for a while. I love watching

816
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: women's college basketball. I have for a long time. Dame

817
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: back to my days in college. I loved going. I

818
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: watched almost every one of the games that my friends

819
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: played that you know, we're on a women's team, and

820
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: they were good. So it was always fun at that

821
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: point to see him. So not too surprised. And hopefully

822
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark and Iowa and Ellis you will meet next year. Hey,

823
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm former played by play of the Penn State Lady Lyons.

824
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: They called them then former number one team in the

825
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: country in a long time ago. That's all I'll say

826
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Speaker 1: about that, Johnny, Thanks a lot looking forward to tomorrow

827
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Speaker 1: Draft Wednesday every day as a Draft day as we

828
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Speaker 1: get ready for the draft, which is three weeks from Thursday.

829
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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot for listening everyone, Thank you Christopher producing,

830
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Speaker 1: Go Texans.