WEBVTT - Preview Show Week 11

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<v Speaker 2>news coming out of Cleveland this week relative to the

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<v Speaker 2>status of Deshaun Watson, but a lot of news coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of the South Side as well. The PTICE Report

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<v Speaker 2>today included Keanu O'Neil rib did not practice for a

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<v Speaker 2>second consecutive day, make a Fitzpatrick hamstring did not practice

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<v Speaker 2>for a second consecutive day. Trenton Thompson, he's He's number seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>If fans are wonder who I'm talking about. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the kid who was out there for the last seven

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<v Speaker 2>snaps of the Green Bay game in the dime when

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<v Speaker 2>Kean O'Neil got hurt at the end of his interception

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<v Speaker 2>on the previous series.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, those were the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven defensive snaps of Trent and Thompson's NFL career. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he had played twelve special team snaps with

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants in one game last season, But Thompson told

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<v Speaker 2>reporters that he's been told he's going to start.

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday in Cleveland now.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrell Austin, the defensive Cord Niners, said that Neil and

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<v Speaker 2>Fitzpatrick are going to be game time decisions. We'll see,

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<v Speaker 2>but the possibility those possibilities certainly exists that you could

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<v Speaker 2>be without Fitzpatrick and Kean O'Neil, And they already know

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<v Speaker 2>without Cole Holcomb and with Kawn Alexander, Michael Walker, still

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<v Speaker 2>on the practice squad, but he's going to get activated.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Tomlin hinted it that on Tuesday, and I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>with Walker on Wednesday and he said he ran with

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<v Speaker 2>the first team in practice that day. So you could

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<v Speaker 2>be looking at number thirty eight out there, number seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 3>What's some Elijahriiley thrown in there?

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<v Speaker 2>Number thirty seven, yep, yep, go Army beat Navy. What's

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger issue going into this game against Cleveland that

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<v Speaker 2>has a sledgehammer running attack and a quarterback in Dorian

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<v Speaker 2>Thompson Robinson and even the Browns probably don't know for

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<v Speaker 2>certain what they're going to get out of him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's really hard to comment on the Steelers

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<v Speaker 3>back seven. I mean, except for it scares me to

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<v Speaker 3>death without Menca in particular, I mean, outside of Porter

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<v Speaker 3>in that back seven, who do you really trust to

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<v Speaker 3>be you know, a high quality athlete for one, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean speed, change of direction, athletics, but a guy you

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<v Speaker 3>can trust. And I'm I mean Porter's a young pup.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like Roberts, but he's the thumper, the Vince Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want him out there one hundred percent of snaps,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and he's probably gonna have to. Caz of course,

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna be out there a hundred percent of snaps.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think he's kind of a limited player, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's one of the ones you can trust the most.

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<v Speaker 3>Same with Peterson. Wallace has gotten picked on. Those other

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<v Speaker 3>guys need to step up or at least prove themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>It's real, real frightening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I'd be more worried about the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're playing Tom Brady Burrow next week. Well, that's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>next week exactly. Maybe those guys are exactly No.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>The one that concerns me, this one is the inside

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<v Speaker 2>linebacker thing, particularly the guy in the dime as you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Landon Roberts.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not his game. I thought Neil would be the

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<v Speaker 3>dimebacker at least he did a lot of that early

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<v Speaker 3>in his career.

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<v Speaker 2>If he could play, If he could play, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they would have done. But yet, right, and Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Walker has said he's done everything. He was three years

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<v Speaker 2>with the Falcons. I studied him a little bit now

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<v Speaker 2>he said, had a real bizarre career path. This year

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<v Speaker 2>he's with the Falcons in August, then he got released,

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<v Speaker 2>picked up by the Bears, released picked up by the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>He was actually on the Raiders practice squad when the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers were out there in September, and then he got

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<v Speaker 2>released by the Raiders. And he's been in Pittsburgh since

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<v Speaker 2>October the thirtieth, not long, not less.

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<v Speaker 3>Than three weeks, just in time to hand out Halloween candy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But he says he can, you know, get it done

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<v Speaker 2>whenever they ask him to do. If I had to guess,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that Roberts is.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to be the dime guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Walker's probably the backup guy. But as I mentioned, he

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<v Speaker 2>said he was starting Walker did or running with the

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<v Speaker 2>first team on Wednesday, so he might see Roberts and

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<v Speaker 2>Walker to start and then mix in some Mark Robinson,

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<v Speaker 2>who is another thumper and again nice slow but steady

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<v Speaker 2>trajectory to his career, but not the guy he went

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<v Speaker 2>out there as the loan inside linebacker with sixty b's.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think the trust factor with Robinson is particularly high.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, when they drafted him, he was a seventh

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<v Speaker 3>thrownd pick. He's been a linebacker for two years running

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<v Speaker 3>back before that, and when they drafted him I said,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a year away from being a year away, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's a year away if it all goes well.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that doesn't mean he's going to be a superstar.

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<v Speaker 3>And even like the big AJ Dillon run, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they led up one big run on Sunday, Robinson comes

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<v Speaker 3>screaming with his hair on fire, takes on the lead

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<v Speaker 3>blocker as Dylan runs right past me. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 3>just he's more of a running back than a linebacker

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<v Speaker 3>at this point. So real, real quick on Walker. He's long,

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<v Speaker 3>he's six three ish, He's got some length to him

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<v Speaker 3>and runs well on a straight line. He played well

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<v Speaker 3>over seven hundred snaps for the Falcons last year and

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<v Speaker 3>they just got better guys, you know, I mean, so

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<v Speaker 3>he's been around the block. He's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a clunky change of direction guy, he was.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to him yesterday for five minutes, not much

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<v Speaker 2>of a conversation, but the points that I took away

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<v Speaker 2>from it. He was upset that the Falcons let him go,

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't see that coming, and he if he

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<v Speaker 2>knows why, he didn't want to tell me why. He

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<v Speaker 2>still want to talk about that. Okay, other than to

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<v Speaker 2>say that it really has bothered him as he's gone

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<v Speaker 2>on this journey of you know, okay, Bears, see you later, Raiders,

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<v Speaker 2>see you later. Now he's in Pittsford, he's wondering why

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<v Speaker 2>he's having to go through this at this stage of

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<v Speaker 2>his career. But he was highly excited about how he's

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<v Speaker 2>being coached in Pittsburgh and he thinks that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this is finally the right place at the right time.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to get a chance to reinvent it, get

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity invent his career. Yeah, I mean, he may

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<v Speaker 3>play more than our listeners, bet you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he might be out there a lot because he has

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<v Speaker 3>been around the block. I mean again, Roberts probably will

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<v Speaker 3>be the dimebacker. What's interesting about this team has been

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit because of who they've played. They're really

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<v Speaker 3>high in their base, you know, four defensive backs on

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<v Speaker 3>the field, and they're really high in dime. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>play a lot of nickel with two linebackers on the field.

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<v Speaker 3>I would assume you keep that up, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think you want two linebackers on the field

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<v Speaker 3>unless it's thumper time. And this Browns team will bring

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<v Speaker 3>in an extray lineman a lot, and they are very physical.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially without Watson in there, You're gonna have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of heavy personnel on the field. I would say.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask about that because I know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times personnel deployment is based on what the

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<v Speaker 2>other guys have in the huddle. But is this the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of game where if you're Pittsburgh, you say, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what we're playing Nickel today, not Din.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And this isn't This isn't necessarily a down the field team, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a speat that way, then so be it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to exploit that with their quarterback making his

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<v Speaker 2>second career start.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, this isn't the worst game for Roberts to play

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent snaps, No, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Next week, next it might not be so good.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other part of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I still have PTSD from Ryan Shay's ear because the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers have been working so hard to try to find

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<v Speaker 2>a guy ever since his unfortunate career ending injury, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've gone through a litany of guys. It's not as

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<v Speaker 2>long a list as the Browns started quarterbacks since nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine, but it's it's become a significant list.

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<v Speaker 3>And this year, I mean they went out and got

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<v Speaker 3>two guys. They did it right, and now they're both

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<v Speaker 3>out of the picture, right right, But they got three guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Two of them are out of the picture. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was a turning into a strength of the team.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean the two Hulcombe and Alexander were the

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<v Speaker 2>three down capable guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh right, right, right, no doubt, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean guys you know the run the show, guys

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<v Speaker 2>in the dime, which they really like the dime when

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<v Speaker 2>they have a guy that can play dime.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, And so it's a hard conversation to have.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the things I'm key and on most

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<v Speaker 3>is what do they do with snap counts? What do

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<v Speaker 3>they do situationally if Neil's not out there. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I thought they could at least count on him to

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<v Speaker 3>be an undersized dimebacker, you know, that could help get

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<v Speaker 3>people aligned. And even Minka, I mean he's playing the

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<v Speaker 3>box a lot this year, played a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 3>You could do every an article about how he just

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<v Speaker 3>puts out fires. Whatever you need him to do, he'll

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<v Speaker 3>just go put out the fire. Although it's interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's been two games and change now he

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<v Speaker 2>got hurt in the Jacksonville game, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>wheels enough fallen off.

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<v Speaker 3>No, on the back end, I got a little Green

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<v Speaker 3>Bay with a little que sketchy on that last green

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<v Speaker 3>Bay drive.

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<v Speaker 2>But again you had Thompson out there and you had

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<v Speaker 2>Elijah Riley out there, and it was just sort of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hang on for dear life.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end. I mean, I'm worried about communication and

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<v Speaker 3>things like that. And frankly, it was a one game

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<v Speaker 3>in my opinion green Bay, where I didn't think the

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<v Speaker 3>pass rush held their end of the bargain up either.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that would have been better. I mean, Love

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<v Speaker 3>was back there tapping the ball morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have thought for Cleveland some potential concerns that

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<v Speaker 2>Dwan Jones their number three tackle the first two are

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<v Speaker 2>on ir but Jones wasn't able to play in the

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<v Speaker 2>Browns victory in Baltimore last Sunday. He upgrades from did

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<v Speaker 2>not practice to limited today. Denzel Ward, their best cornerback

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the best in the business, upgraded from

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<v Speaker 2>limited till full. But Juan Thornhill's safety hasn't practiced yet

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<v Speaker 2>this week either with a calf injury. Neither Ward nor

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<v Speaker 2>Thornhill finished the Baltimore game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Thornhill and Jones, I think are the ones that

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<v Speaker 3>really keep an eye on because Jones is really their

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<v Speaker 3>third tackle. I mean they went in with Willis and

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<v Speaker 3>Conklin their Wills and Conklin as their top two. Jones

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<v Speaker 3>has been good. I think everyone's familiar with them. He's

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<v Speaker 3>as big as a house, and you know he was

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<v Speaker 3>out there against the Steelers the first go round. Thornhill's

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<v Speaker 3>will do it all safety, but that defense is so loaded,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they can survive without him.

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<v Speaker 2>we have a lot to unpack regarding the Steelers Browns rematch,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wanted to start with a little historical perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>a little nostalgia, if you will. We speak with Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Taylor every week on the DVE Morning Show, and I

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<v Speaker 2>talked about going to Cleveland as kind of a different

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<v Speaker 2>deal than going to Baltimore or Cincinnati in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>AFC North rivalries or AFC Central whatever it was back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day. Uh, they're all intense, they're all hostile environments.

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<v Speaker 2>But I said, there's nothing like Cleveland. Uh what do

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<v Speaker 2>you recall from those trips to the old municipal stadium

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<v Speaker 2>and coming up out of the dugout steps and not

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<v Speaker 2>taking the field in front of the dog Pound.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I will tell you this, you could almost feel

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<v Speaker 4>the history of football pass.

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<v Speaker 5>In that stadium. I mean when you see that picture.

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<v Speaker 4>Of that football player stand in the mud, dreary, cold day,

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<v Speaker 4>a big trench code over and you know, tape cut

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<v Speaker 4>up like that's I think that picture must have been

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<v Speaker 4>taken in Cleveland. I mean right in that stadium. To

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<v Speaker 4>Ike's point, though, I will say this, when we got

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<v Speaker 4>the schedule, like most people look for Monday night games,

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday night games, the first thing we look for is.

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<v Speaker 5>Where yeah bye weeks right.

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<v Speaker 4>The first thing we look for is like when do

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<v Speaker 4>we play Cleveland? The first time I looked for when.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we play Cleveland at Cleveland?

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<v Speaker 4>That's uh yeah, at Cleveland, or when they come in here.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't matter, but when do we play them? When

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<v Speaker 5>do we play them?

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<v Speaker 3>Can't what's the bus ride?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that many places we can.

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<v Speaker 4>Bust to, you know, very true story. Now this is

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<v Speaker 4>a true story. Okay, listen. This is my rookie year.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's nineteen eighty seven. And what happened in nineteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Eighty seven is we were going to go on strike

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<v Speaker 4>after our second game. Our second game, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Cleveland in Cleveland. Now, the nfl PA.

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<v Speaker 4>Comes up with one of their many brilliant and I

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<v Speaker 4>say that with a big asterisk around it. They're brilliant,

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<v Speaker 4>brilliant moves during that whole operation, which they completely we screwed.

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<v Speaker 5>The whole thing up. But that's another show. Another time.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna all shake hands, we're gonna show unity, and

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna shake hands at halftime. There was only one

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<v Speaker 4>game and only two teams that did not shake hands.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard this before.

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<v Speaker 4>Ain't no way you're walking across that field and shaking

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<v Speaker 4>their hands, and they were like, we ain't shaking their

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<v Speaker 4>hands either, And I sat like, well, okay, it's mutual,

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<v Speaker 4>so we ain't doing it. So you don't care what

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<v Speaker 4>the NFL PA says.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't care what you do.

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<v Speaker 4>You're trying to create, we ain't creating it here, period.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome. Who were like that defensive players at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>like the top guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, these guys actually, in fact, the first guy

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to say, he's the one who taught me.

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<v Speaker 4>I just if you're going to be successful in this league,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're going to maximize your skill set, you have

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<v Speaker 4>to be a smart cat.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't care what position is. Because Clay Matthews I

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<v Speaker 6>realized that man, that is that dude.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he would he'd start barking out things, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, he's buy the guard trap your side. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean just all these details of how we were lined up,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, oh my gosh, she knows, he knows

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<v Speaker 4>what plays coming based on how we're lined up. I

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<v Speaker 4>was like just unbelievable because I was in the huddle.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he was calling all this stuff out and I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, how's he doing this?

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know, it's like how's he know? And one

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<v Speaker 4>time he because here's here was one of our rules.

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<v Speaker 4>If we're gonna run a sweep, we cheat up and out.

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<v Speaker 5>If we're going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Run a trap, we we cheat back and get a

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<v Speaker 4>little more depth. Well he uh, and then he called

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<v Speaker 4>sweet sweet trap trap sweet coming inside, coming over to

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<v Speaker 4>your chip. Chip Banks was the other guy on the

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<v Speaker 4>other side. Okay, that ain't no joke, Chip Banks, ain't

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<v Speaker 4>no joke. So well, what was the the DB's back then?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dixon. I think it was Frankfield.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, those guys and so they were there are holy lairs.

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<v Speaker 4>But he I would literally come back.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he knows every player running.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter what we do. And he one time

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<v Speaker 4>we were about the twenty yard line and we were

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<v Speaker 4>running sleep and he tells.

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<v Speaker 5>Chips he's up, he's cheated up and out.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, so he used what we used like and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh my gosh, he knows what we're doing

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<v Speaker 4>by alignment.

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<v Speaker 5>Got especially. I was like I went back to I

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<v Speaker 5>get it. Well, we better change out.

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<v Speaker 4>So then, you know, like most of fans would are

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<v Speaker 4>just people want to appreciate like the details, like so, well,

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<v Speaker 4>what you had to start doing is running plays where

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<v Speaker 4>you cheated up and out rather it's a pass play

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<v Speaker 4>or a or a trap backside. But you have to

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<v Speaker 4>study yourself like that too. You have to be so

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<v Speaker 4>meticulous of yourself, not just your opponent. Is what makes

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<v Speaker 4>this league so unique, you know, and so hard and

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<v Speaker 4>why I only about eighteen hundred line up every Sunday

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<v Speaker 4>and play.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that just a requirement.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was working with them and scouting, I put

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<v Speaker 4>that as my one number one criteria because what I

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<v Speaker 4>said about your skill set is let's just say you're

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<v Speaker 4>not very your IQ is not there then, and you

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<v Speaker 4>may be an incredible athlete, your athleticism is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be cut in half. Then you will never maximize your

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<v Speaker 4>athletic ability because you lack the intelligence to maximize it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we well this show, We have fun with this.

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<v Speaker 4>Jadeveon Clowney is a great example. Jon cons will never

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<v Speaker 4>maximize his god gifted abilities because of his instincts he

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<v Speaker 4>lacks and his IQ of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Game, Matthew's brain and toughness. He's the best player of

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<v Speaker 3>all time, right and he's Laura sALS never miss.

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<v Speaker 4>You may never stop that cat you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you might serious, but it's you know, that's that's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of guys like that. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 4>just so athletically gifted. And you know that's why when

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<v Speaker 4>I look at my my career. Here's the one thing

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<v Speaker 4>I have peace with, I think I probays.

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<v Speaker 5>This is really one of the things I talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot when I speak, is that one of the

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<v Speaker 4>greatest personal gifts you could ever give yourself, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is in any profession, is that you get everything out

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<v Speaker 4>of your God given ability, like you max your talents,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, and wherever that leaves you, you should have

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<v Speaker 4>peace with that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Like when my career ended, I was I struggled because

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<v Speaker 4>of how my career ended, but you know I was

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<v Speaker 4>always going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>I never won Super.

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<v Speaker 4>Bowl, you know, Walter Payton was my favorite player. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't come close to those numbers. And then I could

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<v Speaker 4>give you all kinds of scenarios I'd.

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<v Speaker 5>Create where I went failed.

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<v Speaker 4>And it wasn't until I talked about really self reflection.

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<v Speaker 4>I looked in the mirror one day and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, I mean I was, I was prepared.

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<v Speaker 4>I worked as hard as I could work. I trained

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<v Speaker 4>as hard as I I took care of myself I

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<v Speaker 4>was I was never not prepared and ready and gave

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<v Speaker 4>my full exhausted my account. I'm like, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>I got piece at that. I fin I had piece.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I just didn't have the town of

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<v Speaker 4>Walter Payton, you know. I didn't play on a team

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<v Speaker 4>that won a Super Bowl. So I'm like, but I

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<v Speaker 4>did my part. And I was like, ah, I find

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<v Speaker 4>I had peace, you know, And then it really hit me,

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<v Speaker 4>like fast thing. You know, there's some sense of beating

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<v Speaker 4>yourself up for things that you you have no control over,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and that's that I brought me peace finally,

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<v Speaker 4>that I got the most out of my God given abilities.

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<v Speaker 4>I tell people that you do that, you exhaust that

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<v Speaker 4>a peace. I don't care where you are, You're excellent

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<v Speaker 4>because that is a great gift you can give yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Meryl. Let's fast forward to Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>The Steelers came out of that Packers game after they

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<v Speaker 2>rushed for two hundred and five yards on the heels

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<v Speaker 2>of rushing for one hundred and sixty six yards against Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking that they have got the running game figured out

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<v Speaker 2>and they can run the football.

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<v Speaker 3>They think that's part of their identity. It's something they

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<v Speaker 3>can hang their hat on.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to Kenny Picket about that, Nagie Harris about that,

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<v Speaker 2>Mason Cole about that. Can they run it against Cleveland?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, this is how you know how good you are,

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<v Speaker 4>because you do need to run against good Now. Listen,

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<v Speaker 4>the Ravens did some good things against them, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and you can clearly take some of the stuff you

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<v Speaker 4>saw them struggle with and match that with all the

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<v Speaker 4>things that they're doing right now because they're doing a

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<v Speaker 4>mix of things. They're doing zone stuff, they're doing man stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they're pulling people, they are on the strong side,

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<v Speaker 4>they're running weak side, they're on the perimeter, they're right

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<v Speaker 4>at you. So this, to me is the litman's test

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<v Speaker 4>for that. If they can do it here, it would

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<v Speaker 4>be the greatest boost of confidence they could possibly have,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's how they can win this division. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>only phase in football that affects both sides of the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no other phase in football that does that. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>the passing game does not the fact the defense like

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<v Speaker 4>the running game does. The running game, when done well,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're controlling you do Number one, you control the

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<v Speaker 4>tempo of the game, which is most critical to win

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<v Speaker 4>consistently in our league. You then make play calling and

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<v Speaker 4>passing the ball much easier. You reduce the number of

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<v Speaker 4>steps of your defense faces and how many times they

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<v Speaker 4>got to come on the field, and oftentimes they're not

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<v Speaker 4>in a deficit that they're dealing with. So if they

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<v Speaker 4>can do that, which I think they have to in

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<v Speaker 4>this game, and you try to put some burden on

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<v Speaker 4>that their quarterback that they're starting, you've got a good

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<v Speaker 4>chance to win this one. But that is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be their recipe to win a division is how well

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<v Speaker 4>they're committed to that. How well can they do that

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<v Speaker 4>against everybody they face from here on out.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Meryl, you mentioned, you know, how they're running the football.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to expand on that a little bit. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>my observations are fewer condensed formations. You know, they're running

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<v Speaker 3>out of eleven personnel. But kind of asking Alan Robinson

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<v Speaker 3>almost to be a move blocking, tight end edge guy.

0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's not just you know, playing patty Cake

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 3>with nickel corners. They're obviously pulling guys a lot more.

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 3>You know the the guards and Jones, and I think

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:27.240
<v Speaker 3>they're getting their running backs who both are playing really well,

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.560
<v Speaker 3>moving with some momentum before they even get the football

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:31.440
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more too.

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<v Speaker 5>Now there's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you nailed it on a bunch of fronts,

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 4>you know. I just think that their mixture in the way.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, I love.

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.639
<v Speaker 4>The pin poll type of runs where you because it

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:47.119
<v Speaker 4>gives your guys angles at bandage offense when you have

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.680
<v Speaker 4>a guy like a tackle that can pull and block

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 4>like Jones is doing. Man, you talk about flexibility in

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.440
<v Speaker 4>your running attack, and you get him on a linebacker

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:01.119
<v Speaker 4>or you're going to win that time. Those battles and

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:03.399
<v Speaker 4>you're right. Eleven gets in there and I mean he

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 4>gets his nose dirty.

0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:06.360
<v Speaker 5>You know. He doesn't come in there and.

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Patty cakes stuff. He goes in there to block people.

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:11.160
<v Speaker 4>He gets people done. He gets a job done. Tight

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 4>ends have done a better job. Eight He's done such

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 4>a better job and that has helped this running game.

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 4>And backs are finishing, you know, backs are breaking tackles,

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:23.560
<v Speaker 4>says you listen. The running lanes they have now they

0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 4>didn't have for five weeks, you know, and they have

0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.880
<v Speaker 4>some They've had some massive holes and I'm just saying

0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 4>that this they do have a good enough running attack

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 4>and versatility.

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<v Speaker 5>That I do believe they will be able to well,

0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:39.919
<v Speaker 5>they run on them.

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:45.200
<v Speaker 4>On Cleveland like they did backers know, but this running

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 4>game I believe will be a significant a significant part

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.199
<v Speaker 4>of how this game truly plays out, you know, and

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 4>if they, if they played to the level I think

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 4>they are cable of running the football, that they can

0:23:57.680 --> 0:23:59.560
<v Speaker 4>win this game because of their running game.

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<v Speaker 3>Browns are probably thinking the same thing, Meryl.

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 2>They're pretty good still without as Mike Tommin calls him,

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>mister Chubb, haven't really slowed down. Jerome Ford gets it done,

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Kareem Hunt gets it done, and they're more than happy

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 2>to put in an extra tackle as a tight end,

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>the backup center as the fullback and put a turn

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 2>on a knee on sign that says we're running the football,

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 2>and they run it anyway. H Is it too simplistic

0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to think that with the quarterback situation what it is,

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:32.959
<v Speaker 2>they're going to run the football Sunday?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'll say if there are some obvious things in

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 4>this game, that would be one of them. Because I

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 4>don't see how I don't know if you guys got

0:24:42.640 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 4>to watch the quarterback play against the Ravens.

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.280
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, it was the most enjoyable tape I've.

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 4>Seen all year. I have never seen a quarterback play

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 4>so loose and so reckless and so carefree and and

0:24:58.200 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 4>I can't tell you, I don't know if I've ever

0:24:59.560 --> 0:24:59.919
<v Speaker 4>seen it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, that guy through.

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Play balls where you were like, therey, no way he's

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:03.880
<v Speaker 4>making that throw.

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 5>He chucked things up. I mean he was.

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 4>They should have intercepted. They had six times that had

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 4>the ball hands on the ball six six And there

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 4>were some throws that I mean were just like, he

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 4>is not going to make this throw right now?

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah he is? Oh yeah. I was like, I'd

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:22.359
<v Speaker 5>love to know what's.

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.400
<v Speaker 4>Going on in this kid's head right now, because.

0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 5>He is just fearless. He either fearless or he has

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:28.680
<v Speaker 5>no clue what he's doing.

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 4>He does, Yeah, it was probably it's started right there

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 4>in the middle, and I'm just like, because he made

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.200
<v Speaker 4>some stuff that you know, I'm just like, oh my gosh,

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 4>he had absolutely no boundaries none, And right after the

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 4>ball had bounce off one defender's and he come right

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.479
<v Speaker 4>back and make the same another throw that would just

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 4>blow your mind, and he almost picked that one.

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 5>He never blinked out. Man, I know those coaches are like,

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 5>oh my gosh, they're.

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 4>Probably a booth losing their minds over this kid. That

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 4>being said, there is no doubt that they're trying not

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 4>to let him go. The football is as bimble as possible,

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 4>and when they do, I'm sure that they will, you know.

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, they're really good at screens, like I expect

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.919
<v Speaker 4>to see at least six seven, maybe eight screens in

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:21.560
<v Speaker 4>this game, from a variety of places on the field,

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 4>in a variety of players doing it in a variety

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 4>of ways.

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Is that just means that's what they do or they

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 2>want to attack what Pittsburgh doesn't have an inside linebacker and.

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 3>The Joku gets along them too.

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly the tied ending exactly right.

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 5>Actually it could be Mike.

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 4>That's a good point.

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 5>A part of that, why why not.

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 4>Make those guys play in areas that there's gonna be

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 4>some guys but that's not their strengths. You know, I

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 4>don't know who will start it inside, you know, and

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know who they have it behind those guys.

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 4>But that's a that's a bounded area right now for

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.720
<v Speaker 4>that defense is those inside guys, and those guys are

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 4>pivotal in the screen game. So, but it's actually twofold.

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 5>Cleveland does it a lot, and they're very good at it,

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:05.919
<v Speaker 5>and it's a safe pass.

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 4>He got a young guy, and let's see if those

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 4>guys could play that area. It kind of favors Cleveland,

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.359
<v Speaker 4>you know, why not. I mean, let's not try to

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 4>throw it down the field right now. Let's you know,

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 4>we maybe pick a moment or two there, but for

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 4>the majority, I think it's run in that short passing

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.160
<v Speaker 4>game with the screen game being emphasis.

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 3>So, Maria, we talked a lot about can the Steelers

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 3>run on the Browns? Can they throw on the Browns?

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, I would say this, I do believe that they

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:39.719
<v Speaker 4>can run on the Browns.

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm just gonna not to the degree they.

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 4>Have they did last week, but I do believe they

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 4>can run on the Browns enough to make the Browns.

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 3>Not like it.

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 4>And if that happens, then yes, they'll have some opportunities

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 4>in the passing game and it'll just make that that

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 4>area much easier on.

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 3>Them when they passed.

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Merrill, the point you made on the morning show about

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Pickett having first down eyes as supposed to touchdown eyes.

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Do you think the coaches tried to alter his vision

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit?

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 3>This week?

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I talked with Deontay Johnson then Pickett about that obvious

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>play that he missed the third down late in the

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>third quarter against Green Bay where he checked it down

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to Jalen Warren and Johnson was breaking free right off

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the snap on the left side of the field. You know,

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Johnson said he wished he would have seen him. It

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 2>would have been a touchdown. Pickett said he wished he

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>would have seen him. Can something like that spark a

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>little incentive to maybe not be so moniacally focused on

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 2>your pre snap read and maybe let it unfold for

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 2>a second or second and a half before you decide.

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, something we didn't talk about that happened that

0:28:56.720 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 4>I forgot of why. I think Kenny opted there, and

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 4>it was more of a I think he kind of

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 4>was he he was predetermining how things were gonna turn

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 4>out based on how the linebacker was lined up, because

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 4>he was lined up at the line of scrimmage at

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 4>a blitzed position, and he knew he was gonna practic

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 4>get rid of football quickly because he thought that linebacker

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 4>was coming, and I think he made up his mind

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 4>that it was gonna happen.

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 5>And what he didn't do is he.

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.959
<v Speaker 4>Didn't adjust it when it didn't happen. Now, all that

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 4>being said, sure, I don't think there's any question. I

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 4>think Kenny's smart enough that you go, you learn from that.

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 4>You look at that, and he realizes, Okay, I can't

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.000
<v Speaker 4>predetermine things just because they're in a blitz. Look, that

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean they're gonna blitz. And I can't predetermine that

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna throw it to the flat, because that's

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 4>almost how it looked.

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 5>I actually went back.

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 4>To look at it and I was like, you know,

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 4>why did he do that? And then I shoot that

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 4>linebackers up in the A gap, you know, and I'm like, oh,

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 4>that's why he did it. And he got out of

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 4>there quick too.

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 5>You know, he got that quick, got to the flat.

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 4>I know what Kenny was thinking, Shoot'm gonna get that

0:30:00.760 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 4>flat and we're the first down number one, and he

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 4>didn't even think about looking at that go. But now

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 4>his scope has been widened to other things to think about.

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 5>And I think Kenny's.

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Smart enough that if he sees something like that next time,

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 4>he's not going to predetermine things. He'll let it play

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 4>out and fill the ball where where it needs to go.

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if this this happens one or two times

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 2>a game, if you hit those, it dramatically.

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Changes, doesn't I mean, no doubt.

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 2>It's not like they got to come out and be

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 2>the greatest show on turf. I think they just got

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 2>to hit the gas a couple more times.

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 5>Now, keep in mind, that's what he has kind of done.

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Even though he's he's missed throws earlier in games, you know,

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 4>at the end when it mattered, he's made them.

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, he has, you know.

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean that that's the one thing he has done.

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 4>So I still put my money on it on the

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 4>kid that you know when it when it comes down

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 4>to it and the throw that really has to be made,

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 4>it's going to be the difference in the game.

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 3>He'll make it for you some merrils you might have

0:30:58.080 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 3>figured out recently. I kind of like my stat you know,

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 3>it's a fun little project I do. And the thing

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 3>I can't get did you realize, Wow, I had some

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 3>extra time? Impressive. I'm proud of you.

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 7>We'll talk about that later, by the way. That's incredible work,

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 7>by the way, like a little side project Holy count.

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 7>But anyway, the thing I can't get over, I'm with you,

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 7>fan of it. Thing I can't get over though, is

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 7>the Steelers' opponents have run seventy five more plays than

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 7>the Steelers. I mean, that's more than a whole football game.

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 7>But the Browns have run one hundred and sixty six

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 7>more plays than their opponents. That's like two and a

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 7>half football games.

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Like something's got to give here, you know, Like you

0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 3>watch that Ravens Browns game and people were like, how

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>did the Browns pull that thing out? Well, they got

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 3>some bounces, but they ran twenty five more plays than

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 3>the Ravens, you know, Like that's I just look at

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 3>the Browns as a body blow team. They're gonna take

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 3>it fifteen rounds and they're gonna punch you in the

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 3>gut a million times and if you're still standing at

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 3>the end, best of luck.

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 4>H Well, that's why that's what that that actually has

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 4>to be the Steelers mindset, and that's why this this

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 4>to me is a fist fight at the fifty Who's

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 4>whoever's gonna win, is gonna win that fist fight at

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 4>the fifty because and who's gonna blink? You know, And

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 4>and Mike, to your point, might come down to that,

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 4>you know what quarterback can compliment that running attack and

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 4>fire and and make that one throw that opens it

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 4>up or seals the deal.

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 4>I still put my money on Kenny in this, in this,

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 4>in this, in this, in this battle. But that's the

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 4>same mindset if he keep in mind when they played him,

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, was it was a week two.

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they fist fight.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 4>They went to the fifties, but they didn't really have

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 4>a fist to fight.

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 3>They didn't get inside the thirty.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, at they can. They now though, have have a

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 4>running game that can fight with, you know, and this

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<v Speaker 4>will be in the test.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, this will really be a.

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<v Speaker 4>Great test form to see if if they're in that

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 4>league at that upper echelon with that ability to run.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Steelers have to be that body blow team.

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<v Speaker 3>They have to do exactly what we just said. No,

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<v Speaker 3>that has to be their formula.

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<v Speaker 5>Completely agree, completely agree, That's what I'm telling you.

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<v Speaker 4>Mine set already at the fiftieth period.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking forward to Meryl hey Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Brother, no handshaking a hat over at the at.

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<v Speaker 3>The no signs of unity.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah we are not united.

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<v Speaker 2>Rock fight, fist fight at the fifty bar, brawl, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call it, AFC North Football, Meryl, great stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you next Wednesday as we get it

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<v Speaker 2>in a day early because of Thanksgiving. Getting ready for

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers and the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome go Steelers boys, great time have with you.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you expecting Sunday in Cleveland?

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<v Speaker 3>Not a lot of points. And one big thing that

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm harping on is I think, as we talked about

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 3>with Merrill, these teams want to play a similar brand,

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.280
<v Speaker 3>you know. I mean, there's a very good defensive fronts,

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 3>good pass rushes. I think the Steeler edge guys in

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 3>front have a big advantage in the passing game. But

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 3>one thing that stands out for me in a negative

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 3>manner if from looking through a Browns lens is it

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter who their quarterback is. All three of them

0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 3>have held the ball. They have not been accurate. But

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 3>more importantly, the offense turns the ball over a lot

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 3>for Cleveland. And that's the one thing that the Steelers

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.799
<v Speaker 3>don't do. I mean, knock on wood. Hopefully that keeps up.

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 3>They have their formula, but if you're gonna play these

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 3>close to the vest type games, you can't have the

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 3>turnovers that Cleveland's had this year. Yeah, I expect the

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Steelers to run the ball.

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 2>It was interesting here in Merrill's take on that, and

0:35:56.719 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I agree with them. This is the litmus test.

0:35:58.719 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 3>It's a great call.

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, First, overall defense, first against the past.

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 8>They're only seventh against the run, so somebody's running the.

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Ball on them.

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 2>But I just I like what I've seen these last

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 2>two weeks. I think it's invigorated them. I think it's

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 2>gotten their confidence up. I think they're starting to feel

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 2>it the way they did last year when they came

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 2>out of the buy and they filed the running game.

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 2>They have been working for this and trying to find this.

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I think Broderick Jones deserves a lot of the credit

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 2>for it. But to your point about Alan Robinson, you know,

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:31.320
<v Speaker 2>doing dirty work, ticking his face in the fan. Robinson

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>was acknowledged by Matt Cannon of the offensive coordinator today

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>for the great works, you know, the subtle things that

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people might not see. I think the

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Steelers can run the ball in this game. They're gonna

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 2>have to run the ball if they're gonna win it.

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 2>But Matt, I wanted to get back to that turnover

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 2>point because I think it's maybe more significant than some

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 2>of us, definitely myself are giving it credit for.

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<v Speaker 3>I told you I did read your stats this week.

0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm impressed. I mean it's only taking what eleven weeks

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 3>that pounded you.

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Had some time plus ten on the turnover differential for

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh tied with Cincinnati for the best in the NFL.

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 2>The Browns are minus four. Cleveland has turned the ball

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.520
<v Speaker 2>over nineteen times, the most in the NFL. The Steelers

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 2>defense has created the most turnovers in the NFL eighteen. Now,

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people have looked at the Steelers teams, Oh,

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>they're they're historic in getting out gained every game to

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 2>this point and still winning and they're not doing this.

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 3>They're not doing that in the years. Blah blah blah. Right, turnovers,

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 3>pretty big deal, Pretty big deal. You know.

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Traditionally, the team that turns it over fewer times than

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 2>its opponent wins the game. First time these two teams played,

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the Browns turned it over four times, two of them

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 2>ended up in the Browns end zone. Steelers turned it

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>over two times now, which is a lot for the Steelers.

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm all for Kenny Pickett taking more shots and getting

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 2>more aggressive and either seeing more of these one on

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 2>one shots they're developing, or or pulling the trigger.

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.600
<v Speaker 3>But not Sunday Sunday.

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Protect the Yeah, let the Browns and their rookie quarterback

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 2>make the critical mistake. And I think this is something

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 2>that has proved to be sustainable, and I think something

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:12.399
<v Speaker 2>Steels deserve a little credit for that. They're clearly maniacally

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 2>committed to this protect the ball thing, and it's working

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 2>for him.

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.399
<v Speaker 3>They're winning games because of it. Yeah, it's something Dale

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 3>Allie and I have been really harping on on the

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Drive this week. Is First off, Mike Tomlin has a

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 3>tremendous record against rookie quarterbacks and as Merrill mentioned this

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 3>guy was way over his head in his first appearance.

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:32.759
<v Speaker 3>But the other thing we keep talking about too is

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Steeler drives this week. If they ended a kick of

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 3>any sort of any sort, that's fine by me. You know,

0:38:40.920 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Boz is going to be huge, punting it deep in

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>their end. Making this offense go a long distance against

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.879
<v Speaker 3>the Steelers pass rush and all the things that dead

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 3>entails is a chore for these guys. So kick it away,

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 3>kick it away, play physical, don't let them have twenty

0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 3>five more snaps at the end of the game, and

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.399
<v Speaker 3>you're you know, fighting for air, you know. Yeah.

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:05.360
<v Speaker 2>One of the things I've since just interacting with people

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 2>on social media or you know, however that occurs. People

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 2>are frustrated to a degree because they're projecting to January

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 2>already and thinking, well, they're never going to go win

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 2>to Kansas City and win if they're playing like this.

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Let's jump off that bridge when we come to it,

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, right, yeah, right, you got to get there first.

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 2>And I think going into Cleveland and winning a game,

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many teams have a road victory

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 2>over a six and three team this year.

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, right, right, let's let's worry about the division.

0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 2>A win by any means necessary would be a quality win,

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 2>even if it's an ugly rock fight.

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Punt the ball exactly what's going to belfield position? You know,

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Kenny's not gonna throw for three hundred and five touchdowns

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 3>in this game. That's not going to happen, but he

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 3>might win another Matt's stat. There we go.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 2>When Kenny Pickett throws an interception, the Steelers are two

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and six.

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 3>His whole career. When he does not throw an interception,

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 3>they are eleven and three.

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 8>I think that's unbelievably telling me, all right, two and

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 8>six stinks eleven fast.

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's one pick.

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>So maybe that's why they're so maniacally dedicated to not

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 2>turning the football over.

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you've had this conversation a lot too, But

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I get asked, well, are they holding Kenny's development back?

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:23.879
<v Speaker 3>They're just trying to win on Sundays. Winning is great

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 3>for his development and the faith of its teammates. And

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, people are worried about big picture of him

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 3>turning into the next Hall of Fame quarterback. I think

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 3>they're just worried about beating the Browns on Sunday and

0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 3>not throwing picks is the way to do that.

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned the rookie quarterback thing, and uh, you know,

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it's significant. Now most teams probably have a

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 2>good record against rookie quarterbacks.

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Of course I haven't. I haven't studied it to that degree.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 2>But since the nineteen seventy AFL NFL merger, Steelers are

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 2>forty nine and fourteen against the rookie quarterback. That's a

0:40:55.120 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 2>winning percentage of point seven seven eight. Mike tomlin record

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 2>against rookie quarterbacks is twenty four and five. That's a

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 2>winning percentage of point eight to eight. That is the

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 2>highest for any coach since the nineteen seventy AFL NFL merger.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Including Belichick.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>So if you know, maybe the other teams are doing

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 2>well in this circumstance. Yeah, also, but Tomlin's doing better

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 2>at that than anybody else. They're ten to one in

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>their last eleven, the Steelers twenty three and four in

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>their last twenty seven.

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 3>CJ.

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Stroud, that didn't work out this year, right, But it's

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:29.839
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good player. I think we realized by now.

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 3>CJ. Stroud's not your average bear rookie quarterback. Now and

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 3>Dale did the research. Actually, he's like, boy, I bet

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of those Tomlin ones are against Brown's rookie quarterbacks. Yeah,

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.239
<v Speaker 3>and they are. And the only time that they lost

0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 3>to a Brown's rookie quarterback was Brandon Whedon, who's about

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 3>my age, and the Steelers fumbled eight times in that game. Yeah,

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 3>you know. So it doesn't mean history's gonna repeat itself

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 3>on Sunday, but it's a pretty good trend. And you

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 3>know the beat Will Levis.

0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:57.399
<v Speaker 2>I think you could throw Jordan Love in there, even

0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 2>though he's not a rookie, but in terms of in

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.240
<v Speaker 2>helmet experience, he's a rookie.

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah what started what ten period? Eleven games?

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, this is something I think that they're gonna

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 2>need to.

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Take advantage of it if they're going to win this game. Yeah,

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:16.600
<v Speaker 3>and again dtr looked very overwhelmed in his first game

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 3>against a good defense, and I'm sure they'll throw a

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 3>lot at him, and boy, I sure wish I had

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:22.839
<v Speaker 3>my starting tackles if I were them.

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go back and look at that one, but

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 2>I was interested to hear Meryll talking about the recklessness

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 2>or the aggressiveness of every you want to look at it.

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:31.840
<v Speaker 2>But in that game, the Browns thought Deshaun Watson was

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 2>going to play.

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 3>And then at the last minute he did not correct.

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Stefanski has been emphasizing in Cleveland this week that

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the week, the entirety of the preparation that's going

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 2>to make a difference.

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:47.760
<v Speaker 3>I've heard that, but from what my memories of that week,

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Watson practiced at all. Now, but I

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 3>think they were kind of counting on them. But somebody

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 3>must have practiced with a lot. We could have been Walker.

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know then why would they have given Walker

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 3>than not? Because I found Jay Walker. I did a

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 3>lot of Walker homework. He's really bad. Yeah, so this

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:06.239
<v Speaker 3>is the right move for them, but.

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it is too and I don't know that.

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I think if I'm them, I know what I have

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 2>in Walker. I don't know what I have in the

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 2>other guy. So I'm gonna go with I don't know

0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:17.399
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to not good enough.

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 3>He had a really good preseason. Yeah, and he's a

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 3>nice cheap backup for Watson, which is exactly what they

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 3>need because he's a sixty four million dollar cap hit

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 3>the next two years. So that's why they traded Josh Dobbs,

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 3>because they liked this kid that much, you know, which,

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they regret the moment, but such as well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably a lot of Josh Dobbs regret going around

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<v Speaker 3>right about now. Sure, sure, yeah, I can't explain that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't explain that either. I saw him practice a

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<v Speaker 3>lot here, and I never thought he'd be this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never once I still think he's gonna turn into

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<v Speaker 3>a pumpkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he may well, but yeah, he's already had his

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen minute I unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>Great for him. He is what fourth team in the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three calendar year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's remarkable. I mean it's like Tennessee scratching

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<v Speaker 2>its head right about now. In Cleveland, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of head scratching on the south side maybe maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Arizona maybe they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Not as interested in winning as uh, perhaps they are.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, do you remember much of your draft prep

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<v Speaker 2>on Dorian Thompson Robinson. Yeah, yeah, I mean I remember

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<v Speaker 2>phenomenal stats at UCLA, but two hundred and three pounds

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<v Speaker 2>really turned me off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, me too. He is very athletic. He's in the

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<v Speaker 3>Watson Mold you know, the michelob ultra version. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>he is slight, he's built like a wide receiver, runs

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<v Speaker 3>really well. He was very experienced at UCLA. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he was there a long time and got better and

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<v Speaker 3>better and better. And I'm sure some pit people remember

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<v Speaker 3>him in the Bowl game, you know. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's a long term backup. I mean, and his preseason

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<v Speaker 3>was impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>That's gonna do it for us tonight. Reminder programming note,

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<v Speaker 2>going to do the show then. But but we'll get

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