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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to betch You're Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena and we are here today with

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Speaker 1: a good friend of ours, mister Wallas Adams Walls. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Can I be honest with you?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Always, I'm a little hungover today, and you know it's

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Speaker 2: my own doing. But I was overserved by myself. You know,

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Speaker 2: you don't think of the bartender as being the one

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Speaker 2: who overserves himself, but it happens once in a while.

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Speaker 2: So but I'll get through this, I promise.

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Speaker 1: I think you will. I mean, you know what you

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Speaker 1: got to get that we have in our freezer is

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Speaker 1: the you know, like the Alex Earl like we have

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Speaker 1: that face.

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Speaker 3: Actually it's like a cap. Joe's mom recommended them to us.

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Speaker 3: She was like, this is what you guys need for

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Speaker 3: a headache and even better for a hangover.

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Speaker 2: I do dunk my face in cold water and that

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Speaker 2: is chef's kiss. Well, you have a tortress, you have

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Speaker 2: a you have a cold plunge, right, I do, but

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Speaker 2: it's broken now. I needed a new like motor to

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Speaker 2: cold cool it down. Doesn't get too cold, so got it.

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Speaker 2: We went. We went to Disneyland last night, so shout

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Speaker 2: out to you know, Disney owns ABC, so we we

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Speaker 2: have to shout out the mouse. And we went to Disneyland,

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Speaker 2: uh yesterday because Sarah is about to leave for Broadway

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Speaker 2: for a while, which means I'll be hanging out with

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Speaker 2: you guys a lot this uh this coming year into

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Speaker 2: next year. So we had our kind of a goat

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Speaker 2: going away goodbye party at at Disneyland, and it was

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Speaker 2: magical other than I was overserved.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Sarah loves Disney, doesn't she. I feel like a Disney,

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Speaker 3: huge Disney fan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. She started crying at the show like the Water

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Speaker 2: Show last night. World of Color, she's crying. She didn't

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Speaker 2: cry at my wedding, our wedding, okay, but.

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Speaker 4: She was just moved by the colors and the music.

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Speaker 2: But Amy Polar, you know, voicing the voice of whatever

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Speaker 2: emotion she is really got her going.

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Speaker 1: So you know it's Serena cries at the end of

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Speaker 1: like every show we watch these days.

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Speaker 2: Did I know, did you cry at the end of

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Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I can't say I did. But Bonnie's death vampire.

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Speaker 1: In Vampire Diaries got me. Yeah, let's talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about that. I mean, that's why you're here, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about Bachelor and Paradise overall.

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Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on the season? We saw that

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Speaker 1: you did host the reunion, so before we get into.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I I was up and down on it,

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Speaker 2: if I'm being honest. While we were doing it, I

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Speaker 2: wasn't sure. I mean we were taking big swings and

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Speaker 2: trying out a lot of new stuff with the new

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Speaker 2: something where like everyone's new and all the ideas are new,

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Speaker 2: it's a little scary. But by the end of it,

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed working with Scott, who's the new showrunner

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Speaker 2: and now he's gonna be producing The Bachelor. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, at first I was just like apprehensive, and

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Speaker 2: then when we started doing it, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is cool. But you know, a lot of the

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Speaker 2: things that we changed, I just didn't know if it

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Speaker 2: was going to work. Like obviously, bringing in the Goldens,

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Speaker 2: that's so it's curveball. Who knows how that's gonna go. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, bringing in these relationship challenges I was really into,

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Speaker 2: but I wasn't sure how that was gonna work. And

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Speaker 2: then also the money thing, you know, of the you know,

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Speaker 2: the bad cliche of this franchise is not being there

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Speaker 2: for the right reasons, and all of a sudden you

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Speaker 2: put money into it, and it's like the easiest thing

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Speaker 2: to say is you're not here for the right reasons,

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Speaker 2: You're here for money. But I will say that, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've done eight seasons now, and I was

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Speaker 2: the reunion show, and I was like, wow, a lot

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Speaker 2: these like relationship tests and money and all this kind

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Speaker 1: Well, how I have a question moving forward, how are

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Speaker 1: they like, what are they going to do about the

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Speaker 1: money thing? Because if I'm a new contestant coming on

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Speaker 1: this show, and I meet someone on the show on

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Speaker 1: the New Bachelor in Paradise and fall in love. What's

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Speaker 1: to stop me and her from saying, Hey, let's just

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Speaker 1: break up. At the end, I'll choose the money and

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Speaker 1: we'll split it like.

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Speaker 2: One. I think that it's never vocalized, but you know,

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Speaker 2: the entire season, especially when the money was introduced, was

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Speaker 2: putting all these relationship tests against the couples and seeing

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Speaker 2: how they responded, and it wasn't vocalized. But the final

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Speaker 2: test is what you choose. Is it the money or

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Speaker 2: is it love? And so I think there's a world

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Speaker 2: in which if you choose money, you don't get anything

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Speaker 2: because you failed the last test. That obviously didn't happen,

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Speaker 2: but I could see there being a world where like

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Speaker 2: that was the final test that you failed. All that

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Speaker 2: to be said, I don't think there's any world in

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Speaker 2: which we do the season eleven like we did season ten.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll have to pivot over to some new thing.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what that is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like pick and choose from what worked what didn't

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Speaker 3: this season and kind of evolve from there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that there were some things that

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Speaker 2: really did work this season, and then I think there

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Speaker 2: were some things that like Bacher Nation was angry about

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Speaker 2: and wanted to have come back. And it was interesting

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Speaker 2: because like halfway through the season, a lot of things

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Speaker 1: Like the song, the theme song really just started coming back.

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Speaker 4: Well it came back and then it went away again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It was funny too, because like I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: being like, so when am I filming my like funny

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Speaker 2: We're doing these sexy things. And I was like, guys,

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Speaker 2: and they're like, we're gonna have like Charlie x X

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Speaker 2: then like halfway through the season, ABC I'm sure sent

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Speaker 2: the note down of like so we need the song back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, hey, well, so actually on your itinerary.

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Speaker 3: Today you're gonna be filming your funny intro.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that was the thing. I had good

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Speaker 2: I've got an idea for something, and we never got

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Speaker 2: a lot of jowl and it's like me, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: the you know, the movie integration, and I was just like, man,

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Speaker 2: next next season, I need to make sure that, like

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Speaker 2: I film a proper one of these.

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Speaker 3: We need less jowel less jowl forward angles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like how you do a selfie arm up,

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Speaker 3: No, sorry, We've been doing this all day, like we

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Speaker 3: cannot get.

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Speaker 1: We're not in the same location right now, so are timing?

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Speaker 2: So where are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm in New York and Strinas in Toronto.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we talk about Toronto real quick peez.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you how your time was.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I went and filmed a new show

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Speaker 2: there that will be coming out this holiday season. And uh,

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Speaker 2: I've only been to Toronto during the winter time, which

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Speaker 2: one really goes out. But I got to do it

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Speaker 2: in the summer this time, and I texted you and

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Speaker 2: was like, where do I go? Can I just say

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Speaker 2: that Toronto has the best food scene of like any

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Speaker 2: city I've been to in a very long time.

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Speaker 3: It has a great food scene, right.

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Speaker 1: They have some restaurants that like, we went to this place.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you were able to go there, Martin's.

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Speaker 1: It was like one of the best restaurants I've been

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Speaker 2: Now the place I went to Alouette.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been there.

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Speaker 2: And then bar Reval or Revel or something.

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Speaker 3: So Martin's I think is the same owner as Barraval.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think they're like actually right next to each other.

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Speaker 4: That place bar is about. Well, you went to the

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Speaker 4: Swan yees, yep.

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Speaker 1: They do French really well, they do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but there was a Danish Portuguese stuff as well. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: nothing but good things to say about Toronto. I loved

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad that makes you so happy. I love

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Speaker 3: all the Toronto love that's happening these days. There's so

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Speaker 3: much filming here right now in the summer too, which

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Speaker 3: is always fun and Tip's going on, so good times

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Speaker 3: in Toronto. Nice bache in Paradise. Yeah, sorry, no apologies needed.

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Speaker 3: Do you miss your tiny s de keybar?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was gonna I was.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy that you asked that because I was going

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Speaker 1: to ask that as well. Location.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed the location just in general, Like if

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Speaker 2: you notice watching this season, it's hard to funnel everyone

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Speaker 2: much like doling out of advice or like having heart

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Speaker 2: to hearts with people, which I do think is an

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Speaker 2: important part of my job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I noticed the Like the layout, it's like giving

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Speaker 3: like you know, big comfy couch shape like and everyone's

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Speaker 3: kind of got their spot, but you're kind of kept

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Speaker 3: at a disc like the size of the bar is

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Speaker 3: you're like a significant physical distance from the people sitting

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Speaker 3: at the bar, and then we used to all corral

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that if we do the show again,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed in a lot of things.

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Speaker 3: And then like a swat team going through Cat's bag, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, now it's really hard for me to believe you,

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Speaker 3: Well, he kind of took a step back too, from

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Like my takeaway is that I think I think

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Speaker 3: And I think that's this is actually the most honest

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Speaker 4: Because it's kind of seen as taboo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know. I don't know how I feel

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Speaker 4: It's it's a gray area.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wish we could have flown him in.

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Speaker 4: What's fun to the reunion?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What did you think about the other big piece of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that I think that Andrew had a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like people were so happy, like

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this cast is gaslighting me, Like I think

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I also told all of them because I heard

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Speaker 3: And how did you feel then about Spencer at the reunion,

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Speaker 1: I think that's you know, that's a big When I

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, I don't know. I think that Spencer is

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Like I Hannah and I both had talked

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Speaker 4: What's what like what?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I was involved in everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at least I was gonna say, Joe, you'd be

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a lot of people that I would have

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Speaker 5: There are rules coming onto this beach, and a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They rewrote the rules this year for sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's everything was different. And then and then

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Speaker 4: What did?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 2: And it's this is gonna get like really like lost

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Speaker 2: There's someone there that's like making sure that no one

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Speaker 2: it was such a hands off season, like it was

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Speaker 2: just you guys are living in this world. We're just

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. I was like, I can't believe

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Speaker 2: But going back to what I was saying, it was

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Speaker 2: also like that's just what happened. Like we didn't know

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Speaker 2: But then I was like, what's gonna happen tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, after it all, who do you think is the

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you see how strong Spencer and Jess are, Like,

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Speaker 2: I think that was really showcased. Well, I think that

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Speaker 2: Bailey of it all that the thing that got left

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00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: from the cutting room floor was how cute the Andrew

439
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: and Alex relationship was. And like, while it was happening

440
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 2: in front of me, they're the couple that I was like, you, guys,

441
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 2: I really like watching your love story because they're both weirdos,

442
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 2: but like authentically themselves, which it's hard to do when

443
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: a camera's being pointed at you. And it was like

444
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 2: a kind of a slower burn, you know. Yeah, I

445
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: don't know it's season. I can't remember what season you are,

446
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 2: but like, uh, what Jess and Spencer reminded me of

447
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: was Dylan and Hannah. It was like, Okay, you guys

448
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 2: are gonna get engaged at the end of this, right

449
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: in the beginning, right, and then there are some relationships

450
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 2: that you see like kind of evolve and grow. And

451
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: that was more of the Andrew and Alex thing. And

452
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: I really appreciated watching their love story and I was

453
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: bummed that I think we a lot of it was

454
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Speaker 2: left from the cutting room floor for the drama, which

455
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 2: I understand. But yeah, they're really cute. I have a

456
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 2: lot of respect for all the couples, but I like,

457
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Speaker 2: I like them. They're like the cutest to me, They're

458
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: really cute.

459
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Speaker 4: I think they're a good fed too.

460
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was happy about them. How'd you feel hosting

461
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Speaker 3: the reunion?

462
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Speaker 4: How did you prepare? What were you nervous about?

463
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Speaker 2: How to prepare? I? Well, we I talked with a

464
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: producer and we kind of figured out all the stuff

465
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Speaker 2: that we needed to get through. I mean, we had

466
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 2: a lot of leeway because we had a much bigger

467
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: chunk of time to be able to do it, which

468
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: is kind of nice. Like it was a blessing and

469
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: a curse. I think it was. It was too bad

470
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: it wasn't on TV and Jesse hosting it, because I

471
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 2: think the fans really wanted it. But when you do

472
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: that on TV, you've got to truncate it down to

473
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: a very very small window, whereas this one was nice

474
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: because it was just really wide open and we got

475
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 2: to talk about kind of everything. What I wanted to

476
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 2: do was I really wanted to try to like emulate

477
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: Andy Cohen on What See what Happens Live, like that

478
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Speaker 2: his whole thing of he kind of just moderates and

479
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: then asks questions that the fans have and then let's

480
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: that kind of drive conversation. I I really you know,

481
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 2: I've been on his show because of traders and stuff,

482
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Speaker 2: and so I liked how he did it. So that's

483
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: what I was kind of emulating. If you watch it back.

484
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 2: Things I was nervous about logistically. I wanted everyone to

485
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Speaker 2: be with a with a law of mic or lapel mic,

486
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Speaker 2: you know, all these they don't know where it's an

487
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Speaker 2: s M fifty eight kind of in front of them

488
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Speaker 2: or kind of behind it. You know, some people are

489
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: on top of it, and so like I knew, as

490
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 2: like the sound engineer radio guy from my past, I

491
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 2: was like, this is not going to sound like I

492
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: want it to sound, you know.

493
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one point where Jeremy I want I

494
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: was like listening to it, being like, lean into the mic, Jermy,

495
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Speaker 3: I know.

496
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Speaker 2: Then I also want to be like, all right, just

497
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Speaker 2: send me this audio, let me normalize it, let me

498
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Speaker 2: fix it.

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Speaker 3: I can do this, like yeah, but I will say

500
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: the isolation of audio, like of everyone's voices. I was

501
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: actually impressed by that because I was like, I don't

502
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Speaker 3: know how they're going to do this with everyone talking

503
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Speaker 3: over each other.

504
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: Well, so I had a conversation with them before before

505
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: we started filming, being like, okay, I used to be

506
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: a radio host, and just let me tell you what's

507
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: going to happen If you have two people talking at

508
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: the same time, no one's talking, no one's gonna be

509
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: able to hear it because everyone's talking over one one another.

510
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: So if you want to say say something and then

511
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Speaker 2: let that person finish before someone else start speaking, Otherwise

512
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: your point will get lost and we'll probably have to

513
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: cut it because it'll sound like trash. And so they

514
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: understood that and then they kind of respected that, which

515
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: was nice.

516
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Speaker 4: That's good.

517
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, moving forward, the show is somewhat of a hybrid

518
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: right now. It's a competition show, it's a love show.

519
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit of both. What do you

520
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: want to see out of the cast. Do you want

521
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: to see more hot Shawns where they're trying to win

522
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: the game, or more Spencer's whether it's all about love,

523
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: Like this is a love show for me?

524
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Speaker 2: I think I really liked that all the stuff we

525
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: kind of put them through made them stronger. I liked that.

526
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: I think that that's been something that's the problem that

527
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: we've had in the past, is that, like people will

528
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: get comfortable and then kind of close to the end

529
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: of the show and they're it's not that interesting, you know,

530
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: Like the end of the show. A lot of times

531
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: you're just like, Okay, what's going on. They'll bring people

532
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: in where no one wants the datum, you know, because

533
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: they're already teamed up and you're like, I don't know

534
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: what's going on. So I do like the the new

535
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: ideas that we brought in, but you know, I still

536
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: have a romantic heart, So I think I want a

537
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: combination of the two. I don't know. I think that

538
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people were angry about the money. And

539
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: I'll say this, if the mission statement of this whole

540
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 2: show is to hopefully have people get engaged and like

541
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 2: start a life together, because that was the big knock

542
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 2: on seasons past or like the last season that we

543
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: did was that it wasn't successful. Right, Yeah, like batter

544
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: Nation wants to they have stakes in it, right, Like

545
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: they want the relationships to work. And if they are

546
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: going to work, I think that you need I think

547
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: money helps. I think money helps with moving someone to

548
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: someone else or them getting an apartment together or whatever

549
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: it is. And so yeah, if we're trying to do

550
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: this thing of like we would like people for someone

551
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: to get engaged, I do think that a monetary like

552
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: win helps make that transition easier. Does that make sense?

553
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: Definitely?

554
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: I could.

555
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean it would have helped. I would

556
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: have taken it.

557
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have paid for my immigration fees. Yeah,

558
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: I also think, like I know, there's been a lot

559
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: of criticism about the games, but having been contestants, the

560
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: relationship compatibility tests would have been fund I mean some

561
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 3: more than others, but like it would have been like, okay,

562
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: like we're not going on dates, we're not going and

563
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: doing things, we're not meeting each other's friends, putting each

564
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: other in like new environments where we can like you

565
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: can only learn so much about each other on the

566
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: confines of this beach, So it does give you insight

567
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: into other elements of these people's personalities that you're dating.

568
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 3: Like I liked the Try Your Hunt one. I know that,

569
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: like you know, with the walkie talkies, and I feel

570
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 3: like it was, you know, seeing the way Kat and

571
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 3: Dale worked together versus jessin Spencer, not one being better

572
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 3: than the other, but you just you learn a lot.

573
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of a fun addition.

574
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Speaker 2: I agree, you look like you've found out how competitive

575
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: Dale was in that last one, right, Like, yeah, you

576
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: might want to know that if like you're not a

577
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: competitive I like, if Kat wasn't competitive or whatever, like, yeah,

578
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: you probably would have never found that out unless they

579
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: had done something like that. So I agree with you.

580
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: It's also a really important thing when you're dating somebody

581
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: is to know what they're like when they're a little tipsy, right, Yeah,

582
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: And so it's kind kind of a similar thing of like,

583
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: I like those challenges because it showed, it showed things

584
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: that you need to know if you're going to take

585
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: that next leap of getting engaged or leaving together.

586
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

587
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: Well, it's so funny because being on the show, like

588
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: on our season, I remember thinking like, what if we

589
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: get out here and he's like blacking out every night,

590
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: Like what's going down?

591
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean I was friends with Well's, I

592
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: was able to I was able to drink on that show. Well,

593
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time. And uh,

594
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: we love talking to you. And hopefully I see you

595
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: in New York soon and that's all we got for you.

596
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love you, guys. Good to see you, and yeah,

597
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: I'll be in in New York and then yeah, also,

598
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: we we all have to go see Sarah's new show,

599
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: The Bobby da Story with Jonathan Groff.

600
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, gol in the Square, guys, we would love to.

601
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: We saw her in Little Shop before is and she's

602
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: so freaking talented.

603
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Like she's really talented. I I didn't realize all of

604
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: her talents until I saw that, and then I was

605
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: also watching Mattern Family at the same time. So my perception,

606
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: my perception is Sarah Highland has changed. Like I'm I'm

607
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: definitely like, uh, I'm a fan, you know. Okay.

608
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: It's funny because you know, at the after the reunion

609
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: show went out and and by the way, I love Jeremy,

610
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: I love Bailey, I love everybody, and and I said

611
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: that thing in the show where I was like, is

612
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 2: it just me or is Bailey like way out of

613
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: his league? Like this guy is better than a tomato

614
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: and he's like sleeping all the time. And he was like,

615
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: do you really think that you really think that she's

616
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: out of my league? And I was like one hundred percent.

617
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: By the way, but it's a compliment.

618
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: Was sitting right next to Bailey, and I was like

619
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent. He was like what. And I'm like, buddy,

620
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: I'm the king of knowing when you've outkicked your coverage,

621
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 2: all right, so just be happy that you've that you've

622
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: done this. And he was like, yeah, you're right, You're

623
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Speaker 2: right right, And.

624
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Speaker 1: To all our listeners, Thank you guys so much for

625
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: tuning into Better or Happy Hour. Make sure you download

626
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Speaker 1: and subscribe to the podcast.

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Speaker 4: We have new and exclusive interviews every single week. Thanks

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Speaker 4: for listening. Bye,