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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>training live from Dallas Cowboys training Camp in Hawksnard, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>all present and accounted for on a Thursday here in Oxnard, California.

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<v Speaker 1>One week down, two weeks to go, Cowboys Camp two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nineteen. Unbelievable. We're already through a week here. The

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<v Speaker 1>team arrived here last Thursday. They will be departing in

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks for Hawaii. Are you ready to go already? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually just here for four more days. I'm two

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<v Speaker 1>thirds of the way through my stint here. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>too bad, because you're gonna miss this weather. I am.

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<v Speaker 1>And we got the Marine Layer this morning. And the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys return to the practice field today after the players

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<v Speaker 1>had a day off on Wednesday. It's an afternoon practice.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're in the area, come on out with a

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<v Speaker 1>three thirty start time on practice this afternoon, five thirties

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<v Speaker 1>Central time, and so much to get to as we

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<v Speaker 1>get started here on another edition of Talking Cowboys. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the first of four straight days of practice out here.

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<v Speaker 1>It will culminate on Sunday evening Dallas time, six o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas time. We'll be airing the Dallas Cowboys Annual Blue

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<v Speaker 1>White Scrimmage on Texas twenty one in Dallas Fort Worth

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<v Speaker 1>and right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is the lead up to that. Everyone enjoy your off

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<v Speaker 1>day yesterday, even though we did we were here for

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<v Speaker 1>another edition of Talking Cowboys yesterday morning. I figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that without practice, without press conference, without interviews, after practice,

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<v Speaker 1>we say five hours of work, of of just doing

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<v Speaker 1>stuffing stuff to gather stuff to do our work right.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, it was a good day to get caught

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<v Speaker 1>up on things I needed to get caught up with

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<v Speaker 1>as far as work goes. You get your San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you getting? Well, No, I'm just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>getting narrowed in on players, rookies on this roster exactly

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for not only the scrimmage on UM Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>but also you know, the preseason games. We got all

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<v Speaker 1>four preseason games this year, so we never really seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to take the day off. You know, we're pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>in that tent at least for a couple hours. And

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<v Speaker 1>then because what they do is the Cowboys used that

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<v Speaker 1>time usually to work out guys. They will workout guys

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<v Speaker 1>on you maybe make a couple of roster moves, and

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<v Speaker 1>they made one yesterday. They did you want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to that roster move yesterday? Well, the roster move is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working the four guys out, and so they bring

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<v Speaker 1>it in a couple one yeah, yeah. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>decided to sign Justin Phillips, who was with the team

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<v Speaker 1>right after the draft. It was let go earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season back now, a rookie out of Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>State and Parland, Texas. And they released Larry Allen Junior yesterday. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, And this is I'll say about Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Allen Junior. Don't feel sorry for the young man because

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a degree from Harvard. He's better off than

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us right now, and I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go on and do great things. I will

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<v Speaker 1>say this about Larry Allen and I we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it kind of going a little pre show here

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<v Speaker 1>that Larry Allen came into camp and actually looked better

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<v Speaker 1>than he did in the OTAs and main camps. The

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<v Speaker 1>five weeks that he had to be at the facility

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<v Speaker 1>and lift and work on nutrition stuff like that. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. You know, IVY League, Harvard and all that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they've had some players that have played in this league,

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<v Speaker 1>but the strength programs not the same, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>he came in. I think he took advantage that he

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<v Speaker 1>looked okay out here. I was worried about him getting

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<v Speaker 1>run over. You know, he looked under sized, He looked

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<v Speaker 1>over Matt and all that during the OTAs, but came

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<v Speaker 1>out here and I think for the most part though,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of did himself proud. You know. Mickey said he

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<v Speaker 1>saw him on the way out of the place, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's probably disappointed that it ended this quickly

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<v Speaker 1>for him. But I kind of saw him as if

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<v Speaker 1>he made the practice squad, it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>it was going to be him just really blowing people away.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really the best level that I

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<v Speaker 1>could see him attaining at the time. And I promise

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<v Speaker 1>you that was not easy for Jerry Jones to do. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because the relationship he has with that family, Yes, his dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure they would have liked to take him

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<v Speaker 1>all the way through preseason and see what he could

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<v Speaker 1>do to try to make the team, make the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's about getting the ninety got right, ninety guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, the best ninety you can get. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the decision they made. But you, like you said

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<v Speaker 1>in the offseason, Brian Larry Allen Junior has already won.

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<v Speaker 1>He's won this. He's won. He's one, He's got a

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<v Speaker 1>degree in biomedical engineering. He is going to go do

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<v Speaker 1>great things in this world. Yep, Absolutely, what's biomedical jury?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do with bio medical engineer? Do many

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<v Speaker 1>more things than what you would do out of practice squad.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, yeah, he'll make more. He's gonna make more

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<v Speaker 1>in a day than he'll make on a week and

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<v Speaker 1>a practice squad. And you know what, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. They their their hand got forced because they

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<v Speaker 1>got short on linebackers. So the next question, right, they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to make a move. I think they were down

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<v Speaker 1>to linebackers. Yes, well also too, and and also yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrew dwal is one of the college free agents

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<v Speaker 1>out of Michigan State, right, just getting Covington back, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So see, and it's funny you say that you know

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<v Speaker 1>a hard cut for Jerry Jones and the relationship he has.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if necessarily Jerry Jones would visit with

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<v Speaker 1>a down the line player. I think that that Will

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody would probably say, okay, hey, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Move on the fact that the owner general manager says

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<v Speaker 1>goodbye to you and thank you and shake your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Jones meets with players, don't get me wrong about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but he also but I don't know if he would

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<v Speaker 1>meet with a guy that you know, it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta make a roster move, Okay, get Jerry in

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<v Speaker 1>here to say goodbye. Usually Jerry's like, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>lets Will or somebody else handle that. And but the

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<v Speaker 1>fact he took the time because of the relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>the family, probably be seeing dad this weekend and can't

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<v Speaker 1>know how absolutely go. Yeah, I mean, and he's and

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<v Speaker 1>and they've known him. I mean he grew up on

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<v Speaker 1>the sideline in the locker room at some of these games.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when they were winning Super Bowls. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got football tonight. Sure, Hall of Fame game is tonight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he looking at me quizzically Denver in Atlanta? I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking The game was right on a Thursday night. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course Gil Brandt goes into the Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame this weekend. Jerry Jones, the presenter. Gil was going

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<v Speaker 1>from here to Canton. Yeah, so he was out here

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday. It was a great honor. I got invited

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<v Speaker 1>to his ceremony. I really, Yeah, he was nice enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so weird. You get a call from Canton, Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>on your phone and you're like, what's so, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>it works. Yeah, Well I got a call. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>invite you and I and I had to. I called

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<v Speaker 1>Guil had to. I didn't recognize Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I had to. I mean, he was nice enough

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<v Speaker 1>to invite me into his induction ceremony, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to decline because of the work we're doing and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But what a what a great honor that

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<v Speaker 1>a man who really the godfather of scouting, the godfather

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<v Speaker 1>of all the things that guys like myself that we

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<v Speaker 1>have jobs in the National Football League or had jobs

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<v Speaker 1>because the stuff that Gil Brandt did in scouting, in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that he formulated his department. Gosh, he worked

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<v Speaker 1>with some great scouts throughout his career and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice to see personnel men be included into the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. Uh ceremony and those his bust will

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<v Speaker 1>sit right there very proudly among all those great players.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the induction at night or during the day gets

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night, right, sorry, we can, we can. You can

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<v Speaker 1>check it out absolutely, Yeah see it yeah live yeah

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<v Speaker 1>right great, yeah, and uh, he'll go on for a

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<v Speaker 1>while now, Gil will tell some stories. If he starts

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<v Speaker 1>telling some stories, right, good for his When he told

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<v Speaker 1>me the story about the first training camp, I learned

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<v Speaker 1>something new because they had a split camp. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knew they went to Forest Grove, Oregon. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>they had to play games in the Midwest, preseason games.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they found a place in Della Field, Wisconsin,

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<v Speaker 1>at a military academy. And uh, he said he went

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<v Speaker 1>and visited the place kind of did a site inspection

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<v Speaker 1>in April, and he said the place was just appalling.

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<v Speaker 1>The dorms were terrible, the lights were dim, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>there were bats flying around in the building. A perfect place,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. The commander. The commander told them, hey, don't worry,

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<v Speaker 1>we're refurbishing all this stuff. And when you guys get

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<v Speaker 1>back here in August will have it all spruced up.

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<v Speaker 1>Not so much. They showed up and they sent the

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<v Speaker 1>players into those dorms. Bats were still flying around. You

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<v Speaker 1>could barely see. And he said the next morning when

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<v Speaker 1>he woke up, there was a big statue on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the campus of the military academy, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the players went and hung him in effigen

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<v Speaker 1>They got they got a dummy thing and a rope

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<v Speaker 1>and hung it on the on the statue. Because it's like, Gil,

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<v Speaker 1>you brought us here. They had to fly like from

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<v Speaker 1>San Antonio on a DC six so an airplane right

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<v Speaker 1>uh to Milwaukee and bust two hours to this military

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<v Speaker 1>academy to practice for like maybe a week before they

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<v Speaker 1>went to the next game. One other part of the

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<v Speaker 1>history lesson from Mickey here the first year the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty and of course this is the sixtieth

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<v Speaker 1>year of Dallas Cowboys football. They were there at Pacific University.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably got there basically July fourth, I mean, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>sixth preseason July ninth. And he remember about the day

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<v Speaker 1>he told me we six So we're talking we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about yeah, they had six Okay, they had six preseason games, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and where I just started this show talking about where

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<v Speaker 1>one week, now we got two weeks to go, how

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<v Speaker 1>are we gonna make it the next two weeks? And

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<v Speaker 1>they started, So they started July ninth in uh in Oregon.

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<v Speaker 1>Their first preseason game was August sixth in Seattle against

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, so that's a month of trade. So then

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<v Speaker 1>they were there probably another week, okay, because their second

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<v Speaker 1>preseason game was in San Antonio, so they traveled from

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle to San Antonio. They played Saint Louis in San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they played a home game against Baltimore six days later,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe I'm sure they stayed in Dallas during that

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<v Speaker 1>week and then they padded off to where you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Their next preseason game was at Louisville at Louisville against

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants on August twenty seventh. Then September fourth, they

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<v Speaker 1>came back out here at Pendleton, which I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>Camp Pendleton where they filmed over poleshow it's it's It's

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's Oregon, Oh, Pendleton, Oregon against LA and then

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<v Speaker 1>at Minnesota against Green Bay to close it out, so

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<v Speaker 1>that they were that one must have been when they

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<v Speaker 1>went to Wisconsin. God. So their their preseason in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty started on July ninth in Oregon and their whoa

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, Okay, their last preseason game with September eleventh.

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<v Speaker 1>Their first regular season game wasn't until September twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>another two weeks after that last preseason game. So they

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<v Speaker 1>started July ninth, and then they finally played their first

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<v Speaker 1>regular season game September twenty fourth, and they won their

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<v Speaker 1>only game. It amongst those six preseason games in Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>against the Giants. Yeah, because Jerry said that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kick their butts. And the game, the game they played

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<v Speaker 1>against um was it? Uh? Did they played Baltimore? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Speak like fourteen to ten? Or yes they did? Mo

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<v Speaker 1>You got a great memory. No, I'd look guilded now. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked it up. It was Johnny Unitas to Lenny

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<v Speaker 1>Moore in the final minute of the game. And why

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<v Speaker 1>were they playing in Louisville? Why were they That's where

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Nis is from. Why was Johnny and Nias played

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<v Speaker 1>for the Giants? No? No, no, no, you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore The next week that that's where I got

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<v Speaker 1>that was the only all right, let's go to periscope. Cowboys? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How about yeah? Cowboys? That was talking about that was

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<v Speaker 1>a tribute to Gil brand I was, you're not going

0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to dis our tribute to I love Gil. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>happy for him. I am. Okay, we'll get a periscope

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks again for everybody in pariscope. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with us today. We talked about this yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>but Mickey, since we do have a question about I'll

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<v Speaker 1>start with you on this one. How is Travis Frederick

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<v Speaker 1>looking in camp so far? We'll just kind of rehash

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<v Speaker 1>what we talked about yesterday. You kind of had an

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<v Speaker 1>idea about Travis Frederick King his first padded practice and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, his strength was good. He was

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<v Speaker 1>worried about his power and his legs, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was good. But he was just a tick off.

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<v Speaker 1>His steps were just a tad behind I think what

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<v Speaker 1>he would want to be. He even said it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a while. He hadn't been in pads for

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<v Speaker 1>a year, probably more than a year by time they

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<v Speaker 1>figured out what was wrong with him last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the shoulder surgery, the umbilical core the umbilical hernia.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, cordn't have one of those, right. Uh. But

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<v Speaker 1>other than that, you know, he just needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>back out there and they're gonna ease him back in

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, but yeah, he'll improve. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a good sign his strength and his power

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<v Speaker 1>was there. Now he just needs to figure out the

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<v Speaker 1>mass confusion in front of him. I looked it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just about a year ago, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>less because it was in camp. He left camp, went

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<v Speaker 1>to LA I think, to see doctors, right, and at

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<v Speaker 1>the time they thought stingers and then he kept getting

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<v Speaker 1>second opinions and then found out late August last year

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<v Speaker 1>was when they found out about the GPS diagnosis. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a long time, and expect him just to

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<v Speaker 1>adjust the speed of the game as he keeps going.

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<v Speaker 1>Overall impression of Dak Prescott so far, Glad you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott and I've been I've been impressed with him

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the things that I have every year,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like I'm more impressed with his conditioning. He

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<v Speaker 1>comes into camp, it's slimmer and slimmer every year. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like I had a conversation with him last year

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<v Speaker 1>about it and his weight. He puts on weight as

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<v Speaker 1>the season goes on, but I think it's really a

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<v Speaker 1>credit to his offseason conditioning. I remember two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe after his rookie season, Mickey, you and I were

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<v Speaker 1>taping a blitz show in the locker room and here

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<v Speaker 1>comes this was this was in early March, before the

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<v Speaker 1>offseason program had started, and here's a sweating Dak coming

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<v Speaker 1>out off the practice or out of the weight room

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever you know, to into it to his locker

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought that was a signal that, Okay, here

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<v Speaker 1>it is. He's the only guy up there and he's

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<v Speaker 1>working out. But I think he looks, he looks he

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<v Speaker 1>looks sharp this off season with his passage, accuracy and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth, and I think there's a lot of reason

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<v Speaker 1>to think that this his game is going to elevate

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<v Speaker 1>even further this year. And I'm sure when he came

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<v Speaker 1>walking through, I probably said something smart like, oh, did

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<v Speaker 1>you hit her rain shower out there? Coming in? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll sweat you up now. I told that. I told

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<v Speaker 1>that to Parcels one day. He was walking he was

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<v Speaker 1>he was walking down the hall. He had one of

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<v Speaker 1>those great t shirts, sweat shows on the Great His

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<v Speaker 1>Coaching show that way, didn't he no the blue sweat

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<v Speaker 1>top and he would be sweating while he was doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show, so I can change into a suit. As

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<v Speaker 1>I told him, I said, what did you do? Take

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<v Speaker 1>a hose and hose yourself down? He goes, I was

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<v Speaker 1>working out. He does the elliptical. Yeah, they trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that. I did it for an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, and then he looks at me, you work out? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And he started asking me all these questions about my

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<v Speaker 1>physical you know, like you to get a physical every year. Yes, coach,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you weigh one hundred and fifty pounds? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you guys seeing any difference at killing Moore's no,

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<v Speaker 1>see anything different that you kind of feel like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that maybe it's a little bit different from

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<v Speaker 1>what you saw with Scott Linahan. Personnel groups are different. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the pre snap movement, which is what they

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<v Speaker 1>talked about. I mean, it's what do the rams do.

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<v Speaker 1>They do a lot of window dressing, right, but their

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<v Speaker 1>offense doesn't necessarily change a whole heck of a lot. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing is the ball, I would say, the

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<v Speaker 1>balls going down field more. But they tried that last year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they tried a lot of you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>go routes and stuff. They just didn't connect on until

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback starts getting sacked fifty six times during the season,

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<v Speaker 1>That is true, Mickey, Uh, I got one. I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>Keller Moore. Yeah. Um, and it's stung in cheek. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all this work on the Boise State hook and

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<v Speaker 1>lateral and the Statue of Liberty that I know. This

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<v Speaker 1>the big difference there and the five wide receiver sets.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of wide receivers, maky, how has Jalen Guden been

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<v Speaker 1>looking to you chances he makes the team? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna come down to one of those guys?

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<v Speaker 1>One of those I don't know he's he's coming on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think everybody saw John Vay in the

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<v Speaker 1>OTAs in the mini camps, but uh, since we got

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<v Speaker 1>out here and especially when the pads come on, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>people can't you know he's another guy. They can't run

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<v Speaker 1>with him on the nine route. Yeah, he'll He'll blow

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<v Speaker 1>right by and he does a good job of adjusting

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and catching it. I think he got it

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<v Speaker 1>down towarding his same boy, he did against Denton Geyer

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<v Speaker 1>when he played it Allen that's right, the same way

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<v Speaker 1>at North Texas, right anything they're up. Could both of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys make the team? Is it possible? Well, it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would take attrition at the wide receiver position. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all though. I mean, you know with

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Hearne's not here, there's part of the attrition right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Give him, give him Tavon. That's four. Yeah, there's two spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Have two more spots. We haven't seen Noah Brown yet.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably gonna. That's not a good thing. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>But somebody on the show set yesterday, whether you like

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<v Speaker 1>it or not, he's a special teams guy. They like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe these guys can play. They can. You'll settle up

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<v Speaker 1>with Keith though Quinn. He'll tell you that about that

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<v Speaker 1>special team Cedric. Cedric Wilson showed up a little bit too.

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<v Speaker 1>He's put space. I'll get it out play special teams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Reggie Davis can return kicks. Doesn't look bad Minters did

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<v Speaker 1>in the fact that returning punts, because if he could

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<v Speaker 1>show enough there, maybe that's enough to get a spot.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean his speed, I don't know if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>runs quite like him straight on speed on roster, except

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<v Speaker 1>I'll quote Chris Hall when I asked him about his speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Hall said, and Chris is kind of the what

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<v Speaker 1>like director, coordinator college got it? Yeah, coordinator, And he

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<v Speaker 1>said that guy can run out of site. Yeah, his

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<v Speaker 1>socks move faster than everyone else's. Yeah, that's what it is. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's we'll get to more Paris questions coming

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<v Speaker 1>up there. Also, I'm on Twitter at CBS eleven Bill Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got our car wash with Dak today right the

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<v Speaker 1>local TV stations talking with Dak. I want some questions

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<v Speaker 1>for Dak. I've got my own questions, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>on periscope as usual. I'm sure yes. And Mickey wants

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up something about Michael thomas contract with the Saints,

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<v Speaker 1>how it might relate to Amari Cooper. I think microphone fall.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Cowboys would love to sign MARII Cooper

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael Thomas's contract because when you go inside the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>basically it's a three year, forty five million dollars deal

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<v Speaker 1>up to ninety six million, Okay, not one hundred ninety six.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever reported the hundred kind of pushed the envelope a

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<v Speaker 1>get out of this contract after three years. Now there'll

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<v Speaker 1>be eight million dollars of dead money. They can get

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<v Speaker 1>out of it after four years, would only four million

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<v Speaker 1>dead and sixty million paid out, So four years, sixty million.

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<v Speaker 1>The guarantee runs out after four years, so that to me,

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<v Speaker 1>my simple math tells me that's fifteen million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't you be okay, with signing Amari Cooper to a

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million dollars sixty one guarantee, I think that's more

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<v Speaker 1>in line to what they would like to do right exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>And the last two years of his contract that aren't

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed total thirty four million dollars thirty four in the

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>last two years of just basically signing our base salary.

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>The other thing is, I don't know if everybody can

0:24:56.160 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>see this, but there's a list of contingencies here that

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:04.199
<v Speaker 1>he can earn if he does this or this, and

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it all adds up to a couple million dollars more So,

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I'll just give you one example. In twenty

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 1>twenty three, his per game active bonus is thirty one thousand,

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty a game, so that's five hundred

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. He also has some incentives where if he

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:29.199
<v Speaker 1>checked this out twelve touched any of these twelve touchdowns,

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>fourteen hundred receiving yards, fourteen hundred receiver yards, and a

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:37.439
<v Speaker 1>playoff game, one hundred receptions, one hundred receptions and a

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>playoff game, he can get three hundred and seventy five

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:45.640
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars for each of those incentives after Drew Brees retires.

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so there's a lot of funny money in

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>there that makes it look like, oh, it's twenty million

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.880
<v Speaker 1>a year. It is not twenty million a year. It's

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:58.280
<v Speaker 1>fifteen million a year when you deal with where the

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 1>guarantees are. And they didn't change his base salary much

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>for this year. It's only like one point uh six

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>million dollars because he handed him twenty million signing bonus.

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And what I've been told is because of the way

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the CBA's going to be structor is structured for next year,

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the signing bonuses are going to be smaller, Right, They're

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be smaller so that you can get out

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of the contract and there'll be more of these big

0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>base salaries because of the thirty percent rules. So don't

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>get all fired up. And you know Steven Jones, you

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.159
<v Speaker 1>know he was on the ticket the other day or

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>yesterday it was yes, but he was on the ticket.

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>And if I'm going to give him credit for the quote, absolutely,

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Stephen said, we can't push the issue unless we want

0:26:46.560 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to be a market setter, and we're damn sure not

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be a market senter because of all the

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 1>things that go with being a Dallas cowboy. So basically

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>what he is saying, we gotta do Amari, we gotta

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>do Zeke, we gotta do Dak and he goes in,

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.439
<v Speaker 1>it's not Jerry's money, it's the money that would go

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to other players that we have to be careful so

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>we can sign. And then he went on and talked

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.920
<v Speaker 1>about Byron Jones got to be signed, Lal Collins got

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.199
<v Speaker 1>to be signed, Jalen Smith's gotta be signed, Collins and

0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>LC Collins. So there's other guys that they've got to

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>worry about. I don't know what the Saints have to do, right,

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:26.840
<v Speaker 1>but fifteen million a year when Mamari's making fourteen million

0:27:26.920 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this year, I'd do it tomorrow. That's interesting. You brought

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 1>that up because the fans are fired up because the

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>reaction was, all right, you saw wins get a deal.

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Does the market go up for Dak? Now? All right?

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>You son, Michael Thomas get a deal. Why are they

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>waiting so long and letting other teams set the market.

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 1>That's just not how they view it though, right exactly.

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, if you look on the inside

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 1>of Winz's deal and you consider what he's getting paid

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:54.360
<v Speaker 1>this because it's an extension. So the years of base

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.639
<v Speaker 1>salaries he's has still counts, and if you count those

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>along with the extension, it would average over the next

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>six years like twenty twenty seven million dollars a year.

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Would you do that with Dak right now? Absolutely? So

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>He's not a thirty million dollars a year man, when

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>you consider what he's got to make first before he

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>gets to the extension. So my word out to everybody is,

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 1>look inside the contract. Don't take the number that first

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>comes out, because that's an agent number, and all he's

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>doing is advertising for his business to be able to

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>sign the next guy. And he can say, look, I

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>got Michael Thomas, the biggest contract ever for a wide receiver,

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>which I don't. All I know is I think Odell

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>Beckham Juniors is like eighteen million a year. Can I

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>ask a question? Maybe it's a little bit off topic here,

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.040
<v Speaker 1>but I was just sitting there listening to Mickey as

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a great analogy or a great explanation what's going on.

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.520
<v Speaker 1>As much as Jerry Jones loves the players, you know,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and wants to take care of the players, do you

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>think this whole thing with Zeke has shook him a

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit that his you know, And I'm no, I'm

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 1>asking an unfair question here because I'm asking you to

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 1>jump into Jerry Jones mind. But you guys all know Jerry.

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>You know he's has such loyalty to his guys. Is

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>does this does this shake him going forward? That he thought,

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Okay, I put my neck out for

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 1>this guy. I drafted him. I wanted him here through

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>all he's gone through, all all all the things he's

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 1>gone through, the fights he's had with Roger Goodell, the

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>fights he's had with the league, the legal fights and

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>all that. The ah, he's gonna play this week. No,

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna play. Yes, he's gonna play. No, I mean,

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>does this decision shake? Does this shake Jerry Jones? Now?

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Because I think he's mad that it's happening, and he's

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>done a very good job of controlling himself, although in

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the press conference he started getting to the crux of

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the matter there. I don't think he gets mad at

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>the player. I think he gets mad at the agent. Okay, okay,

0:29:56.320 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>because he's just fallen along. Zeke didn't wake up one morning,

0:30:01.760 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>can go you know, what I think I'm gonna hold out, right,

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>So someone told him there, somebody told him this is

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>how we're gonna set your money. So someone someone, He

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>woke up and someone said, listen, you know they're they're

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you four hundred carries again this year. You

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>okay with that? Do you think that's kind of how?

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Zeke's like, nah, just let him. I like

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to play. No, he saw what's happening with Melvin Gordon.

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Sure no, but but someone told him, Hey, they're gonna

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>give you four hundred carries four or touches again. I

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>mean it was like Emmett's first rookie year. Sure he

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't mad at Emmett, he didn't even hardly know him,

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>but he sure knew those two agents, and he wasn't

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>really happy with them. I agree with you up to

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>a point. Up to a point because at the end

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>of the day, who works for who? Yeah, but I'm

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>telling you agents, he's twenty four years Do you think

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Zeke understands the salary capit rules? Do you think he

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>understands what market value is? Somebody has to explain it

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>to him, and you get a smart guy. I'm not

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to say he's some sort of dummy, because if

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>you talk to the players, he's a smart dude. I

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>just know, I just know. When the Tank deal got done,

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>it was DeMarcus Lawrence getting on the phone with Stephen

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Jones and saying, let's figure this out, okay, because I

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 1>know I need surgery and I want to play this year.

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 1>There you go, so we'll it have to come to

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that point. Maybe it does well then you know, maybe

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>it will. But I'm saying the agents running this thing.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's uh. The reaction from the Foundation seventy seven

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter question for Dak would be calls Zeke so Zeke,

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Coop and himself to leave their agents at home and

0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 1>have all three deal with the Joneses and McClay to

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 1>get a deal done. It's what he and everybody in

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the room. Bobby Lagger did his own deal in Seattle.

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's right. Yeah, that's a market for Jalen Smith.

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if without an agent you could

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>do all this, you know, Well yeah, I just I

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to know if, because like I said, Jerry

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Jones is so loyal to his players, He really is loyal.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>He'll do anything he can to help his players. Even

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've had people ask about any update on

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Randy Gregor. I haven't heard anything on Randy Gregory, but

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>think about him just going to bat him. Think of

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>him trying to give an extra three hundred thousand dollars

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to Randy Gregory on really a contract extension, knowing that

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>potentially this could happen where Randy gets suspended for the

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>whole year. At least Randy could have some money to

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>live on, you know. I mean that's you're you're an owner,

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're saying, you know, I gotta we gotta find

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>a way to help him. We gotta find a way

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to help this guy. And I just wonder if, if

0:32:30.400 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe someday I'll I'll ask here, if i'd

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>see him, I'd say this, you're confidence shaken when on

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>players this way. I think he might be right. We

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure, but I think Mickey's right about

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the agent. But I just wonder if it's like, man,

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm busting my ass to try and help the situations,

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>and I and you're and what are you doing to me?

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't have many campaigns left. I don't

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>have many campaigns to walk up there and try and

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>win a Super Bowl. I assemble the best team I can.

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've paid Lineman, I've paid uh yeah, I've

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>paid all these defensive players. I've paid people. And I'm

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to win this damn thing and you're and you're

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>not helping me, right, And these guys are now they've

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>got you know, the core players, sure, meaning even Dak

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and Zeke. They are now going to their fourth year.

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So they are in the prime of Okay, they there's

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 1>no none of the rookie stuff. It's okay, how good

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>are they going to be the second year or the

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>third year? Now they are in it. Okay, So you'll

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>get your answer to that if they enforce the fines

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you think, so, which there they can do now? Right? Yeah?

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, no, I mean the um and and after

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and asked for the fifteen percent of thirteen And what

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>day did you say we were This is if you

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>count Friday like reporting was, this is seven days right, right,

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's forty thousand dollars a day. That's two hundred

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>and eighty thousand dollars already that he can be fine

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.320
<v Speaker 1>if they want to, Yeah, if they want to, If

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>they want to enforce it. And then now that the

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>six hundred and thirteen on the signing bonus, and it

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>can go up one percent each day until it gets

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>to twenty five percent. You can ask another question. You

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>think that Jerry and they were playing this knowing that

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Zeke can't match the pot. If Jerry calls, you know,

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>in the using poker terms, what do you mean, can't

0:34:18.920 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 1>match the pot? Zeke doesn't have the money to match

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>the fine pot. Well, yeah, not the fine pot, but

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 1>just maybe overall, maybe he doesn't have every dime. Maybe

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>he's not Terence Newman and has every you know knows

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>you know it knows where his first nickel was. Well,

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.240
<v Speaker 1>do you think they're playing a game whether where Jerry's

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at him and going, Okay, I know you don't

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>have enough money to match that pot. That's possible, But

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>I go back. I think I said this when this

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.839
<v Speaker 1>he first held out. Is it's a precedent thing. They

0:34:47.920 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>can't they are So we just mentioned all these guys

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be up for deals after this current group.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 1>You can't set a precedent of Oh, there's no question right, Okay,

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 1>you're not here. We gotta get a deal, said that.

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let me ask you this, all right, I

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>thought of this this morning. How much is it on

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the agent or Zeke's mind that the head coach is

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 1>going into the last year of a contract. I don't

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>think he cares well from this From this standpoint, this

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>offense is based on Zeke being a key member of it.

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>If if you changed coaches after this year and you

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>brought in now, I'll throw out Lincoln Riley, sure, But

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 1>but Lincoln Riley coach, he would he would love Ezekiel Elliott.

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>So let's say a college coach who spread it out

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 1>and they don't rely Mike Leach, they don't rely on

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 1>a r I could us to do what this offense

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 1>asked him to do. Sky is that on their mind

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>at all? That we need to get our money now

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>because we don't know what's gonna happen even six months

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>from now with this, with this offense and what Zeke

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>means to this team six months from now because of

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the uncertain status of the head coach. It's not a

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>bad thought. No, I don't disagree, but I don't know

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that you can do what you're saying they could do

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>in one offseason. Well, and the reason I asked that

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>is there's a lot of people who say, WHOA, he's

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>got two years left on his contract. He needs to

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>honor his contract. He makes nine million next year, right,

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>but he needs to honor his contract. He shouldn't be

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>asking to renegotiate. Now, this is a little different than

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a normal contract, and when you're talking about a sports team. Yeah,

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>because of those kinds of factors. I don't think Zeke's

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>focusing on Jason Garrett. Yeah, I don't. I don't think

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a primary thing, but maybe that's part of it.

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I just my gut is that if Zeke, I think

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the players are okay with him holding out until we

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.280
<v Speaker 1>get to that first game, and then once it gets

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 1>into if he's holding out week one, week two, week three,

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>then it's become it's going to become a little contentious

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>when Dicky asks when when it hurts them? See, this

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.520
<v Speaker 1>doesn't hurt this doesn't hurt them now, but Micky, when

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Micky goes in there and the pad open and ask

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a really tough question like about you know, now, you're

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>going to see some guys gritting so well. And this

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>is what I wonder when he gets down to that,

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>if it does. Everybody looks who who's who's his best

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>buddy on the team, Dak Press, Scott Press, are they?

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's really gonna leave Dak high and dry

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.040
<v Speaker 1>in this situation we're trying to go on Super Bowl.

0:37:18.080 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, if he really feels like financially,

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what he's got to do for his future. Okay,

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 1>but I gotta see that. I gotta see that because

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.240
<v Speaker 1>all it takes is one loss that could decide this division.

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, all it takes is one miss game right

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:35.239
<v Speaker 1>to decide this thing. And this is built to your

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>point talking when all these guys going in their fourth year.

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>One thing we don't talk about is all these guys

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>down the line, all these worker b guys, role players

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 1>down the roster who have contracts expiring. Randall Cobb has

0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>an expiring contract after this year. Robert Quinn, this might

0:37:51.040 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 1>be the best shot this team has because this team

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>could look there's a lot of young guys, a lot

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>of good young talent, but this roster could look drastically

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>different next year one fifty three. Yeah, because about Jerry.

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>That's why I asked the question about Jerry. Yeah, did

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 1>he feels a little betrayed right now? Yeah, and so

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:12.360
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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not a pro with a microphone. Save that

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>admitted it. But guy for every day. Give me a

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<v Speaker 1>typewriter and I'll write you guys under the table, Smith Corolla,

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.319
<v Speaker 1>that's right. You still have a typewriter. I do. I

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>still have a typewriter. It's my affordable one that I

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>used to carry to the games. And you take the

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<v Speaker 1>copy and put it on the telecopier and they would

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 1>spin it back to those new spas. What sportswotter did

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you almost punch? Because you use your phone? Jr. And

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I would have probably been right behind you. If you

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't get a good shot on him, I'd have got

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<v Speaker 1>him from that old press box in San Diego Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy Stadio, back when you had to Jack Murphy order

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 1>your own phone line to be able to an old

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>sports writer himself. Oh Jack Murphy was a good one. Yeah, yeah,

0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that was a nice night. There'd be a Mickey Spagnola

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 1>stadium somewhere. I doubt that Chicago Heights. Just wait, little League.

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they probably forgot I was there. Now they've already

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>named those stadiums after people from fifty years ago Jack

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Kin cannon Jack cannon Field. All right, um no, actually,

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Sam Piazza, Sam Piazza, Okay, Cowboys, all right, this Cowboys roster.

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Michael Irvin was out here the other day. He said

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that he believes this is the most talented Cowboys roster. Well,

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>he said in twenty five years, but he meant since

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys last won a Super Bowl. And then he

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>corrected himself and said, since the Cowboys last won a

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, best Cowboys roster since then. Tony Romo was

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>interviewed yesterday or the day before and Tyler Texas playing

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>in the Texas his state amateur Did he win? I

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>believe he missed the cut, but uh stuff Uh he

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>shot of seventy six the second day, which wasn't good enough.

0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:15.399
<v Speaker 1>But he said this, he believes this is the most

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>talented Cowboys roster since he first came into the league,

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 1>which was two thousand and three. He probably could take

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 1>it back further than that, but that's all he qualified

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it with. So how this is the most talented Cowboys

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 1>roster since when I'm gonna try to save this thing,

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to save this team from the outside

0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>hype because every time this happens. It doesn't work out

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 1>every time, So I'm I'm going to disagree. I'm going

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 1>to disagree. Wait, why are you granted? Because I'd love

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>the what you're saying. I remember, was it two thousand

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 1>and nine? It was a Cowboys camp in San Antonio,

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and I remember talking to Peter King, you know, I'm

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>asking him about this. He was talking about the Cowboys

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>offensive line. Yeah, and he thought that that Cowboys offensive line. No,

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it was the it was last year, the last year, Wade,

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:13.320
<v Speaker 1>it was twenty ten, yeah, okay, when they got old, yeah, suddenly,

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:16.439
<v Speaker 1>And he said in his big deal that training camp

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 1>was this is the best Cowboys offensive line. I put

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>it on a par with those Super Bowl teams of

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the night. I remember that now. And and the Cowboys

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>started the year well one and seven and seven. Yeah,

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking oh eight, when Hard Knox was here

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was Super Bowl or bust. I

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>truly believe it. I don't think you can say they're

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:38.799
<v Speaker 1>they're better on paper necessarily than the Oh seven team

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that went thirteen and three and should have gotten to

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the NFC Championship Game at minimum. You know, they had

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the Giants at home didn't win that game, and that

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 1>looked like a huge missed opportunity. Um, let's look at

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>that team. I mean, Tony Romo was in his prime,

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>put up sky Wars numbers that year. Um, you had

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a nice two headed running attack. I had heard that

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 1>you had a t O guy remember Tarall Owens, Hall

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>of Famer, DeMarcus ware Rush and the passer, a big

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 1>dominant offensive line. I mean, I don't think we're getting

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>enough credit to that team, but there's no doubt this

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>team has a ton of young talent. That's what's so

0:45:14.680 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 1>exciting about is how young these guys are. Yeah, I

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>think you gotta go. You go back to two thousand

0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and seven, flows Al Adams, Kyle Kozar Okay, so okay,

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Andre Gerard Leonard Davis was still playing well, Mark Colombo, Witten.

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I forgot about Witting in his prime. And then you

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.359
<v Speaker 1>you shared the running back spot with Julius Jones and

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Mary and Barber. And that was the year that Barber

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 1>scored ten touchdowns after Julius Jones did all the work

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>getting the ball down to the five yard line. And

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:50.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, Mary and go score Bill. Just that

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Bill. It was it would have been Jason right

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>because offensive coordinator, but Bill had started it the years before.

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.919
<v Speaker 1>It's like Julius did all the work and then Barbar

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>got all the touchdowns. Say they say, we're gonna go

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 1>with the big back at the at the goal line.

0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Witton had ninety six catches, Owen's eighty one, and Craton fifty.

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, if your third receiver gets fifty catches, you'll

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:16.319
<v Speaker 1>take that right now. So that that roster was pretty good.

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Hit me the ninety two or ninety three cowboy roster. Well, yeah, yeah,

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that we no, I'm just saying. And

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.719
<v Speaker 1>then go back to nineteen seventy seven. So I thought

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>ninety three Super Bowl team ninety three was probably their

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 1>their best. Yeah, you had two and a Newton Stepnoski uh,

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Gogan at right guard and Eric Williams at right tackle. Okay,

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>different line for the way they different kind of different

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of line. This is the These were bullies and

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>the line today is more athletic movement. So in the

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>era of being a bully, that that was the best

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you could be. Right there. Emmett runs for fourteen hundred

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and eighty six yards. Um he also caught fifty seven passes.

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Michael had reception. It was the ninety four offensive line.

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 1>It changed because Larry Allen. Larry Allen ended up at

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 1>right tackle because that was when Eric got accident. So

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 1>basically it was two and a Newton Stepnoski. Derek Nard

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>was pretty still good. Okay, but imagine that if Eric

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Williams hadn't had his accident. Yeah, they would have had

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 1>two and a Nate step Larry Allen at guard at

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Eric Williams at tackle. Wives. Who's the only guy on

0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>this current offensive line that would have started on that group?

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Zack Martin maybe, yeah, Zach would have Zach probably gets

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>in at at guard. Okay, would you taken Frederick healthy

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Frederick ober step now, and and you guys know better

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:54.120
<v Speaker 1>than me on that, and you probably Tyrn Smith over

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>two and a two and a was good, but he

0:47:56.520 --> 0:48:00.480
<v Speaker 1>ain't Tyron Smith, Right, that's true. That's true. God rest

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>his soul. Yea a great player. Wow. So, and Mike

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.839
<v Speaker 1>wasn't saying since those teams not that, not that, No, no,

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 1>no talented than oh no, not at all right, No,

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>he's saying that in the last however, twenty four years. Yeah,

0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:18.360
<v Speaker 1>he believes that this is the most talented roster since

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.799
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys won a Super Bowl. He might be right.

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I wish you guys could go back and look at

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:25.879
<v Speaker 1>that seventy seven team. I keep mentioning that. And that's

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the one with Staubach and Pearson and Dorset and Robert Newhouse,

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Randy White, Harvey Martin, you know, the secondary probably Aaron Kyle, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Waters, Cliff Harris, you know, yeah, those are those

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<v Speaker 1>are all teams. Danny White was your punter. See this

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<v Speaker 1>is See that's why I'm saying, if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, and you have to think of the great histories, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I grew up in that era from nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>two to nineteen ninety two of watching his team play.

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'll always fight for guys from that era,

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, before the jones Is bought the team in

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty nine, because they played damn good football. They

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>were very similar to what the Patriots are today. Might

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<v Speaker 1>have been the best Cowboys team ever with that roster,

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<v Speaker 1>and not without doubt, see so and so, and I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate Michael or I appreciate Tony Romo, but again I've

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<v Speaker 1>lived through some of this, and I go back and

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<v Speaker 1>think about those teams and it's it's high praise. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the best. Now maybe they're saying it's because

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<v Speaker 1>since we've known the team. Maybe that's the attitude you

0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>have to take. And they're not they're not saying that

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>it's better. They're better. Time the Super Bowl teams, they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying they're better since they won the Super they might

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<v Speaker 1>not win the division and look at it. This is team.

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<v Speaker 1>Look how close they came to not winning it last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely Rob said it one game. This is still this

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<v Speaker 1>is still a young team. Yeah, that's that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the excitement that has to be signed. And the defense

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>is young. Yeah, you've got guys that are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for second or third year that into this thing. That's young.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I think people will compare it. And Mike

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<v Speaker 1>might be comparing it because it's like the ninety one

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<v Speaker 1>team last year. I think you've made that comparison before.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're ascending, you're hoping they're ascending, and they're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of to a point they're hitting the sweet spot of

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<v Speaker 1>where those ascending players and then they bring these veteran

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<v Speaker 1>guys in if if they if they still got what

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<v Speaker 1>we think that they have left, like a Robert Quinn,

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<v Speaker 1>like a Randall Cobb. You know those are that better

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<v Speaker 1>press even they only have now with Morris, they got four.

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<v Speaker 1>But if Whitner can play like he played before, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that one player might wreck this. About it? That

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<v Speaker 1>one player, Oh yeah, he might wreck this. He ain't

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<v Speaker 1>given up. You need a rushing the question, you need

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 1>a former rushing champ to win a Super Bowl. He

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<v Speaker 1>ain't given up two hundred four thousand dollars a week

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<v Speaker 1>to miss games. I will, Micky, I that ain't happening.

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I think you're two hundred and twenty four thousand a week.

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Jerry's calling his bluff. Jerry's gonna call this bluff. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think they need they need to slide. And maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's too late to slide on the radar because it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's out there now, all the hype is out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, there's a lot of good teams

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<v Speaker 1>in this conference. The Rams aren't going anywhere, The Saints

0:51:14.920 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>aren't be where, the Bears, the Eagles, and how long

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<v Speaker 1>has it been since a day NFC East team has

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:26.000
<v Speaker 1>repeated as a division champion. Philly like fifteen thousand and

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 1>four Andy Reid team or in a row. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And by the way, no one has won

0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 1>it more than two of the last three years, which

0:51:38.840 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>they've done, right, But fire the coach. Even if he

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.480
<v Speaker 1>wins a division title, he wins three out of four.

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I was looking at that. Okay, that's okay, that's okay, right,

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<v Speaker 1>fire the coach. I appreciate you. Nobody else in the

0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.320
<v Speaker 1>in the in the division has done it. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>your passion. Well, it looks like that shot clock has

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<v Speaker 1>got us again. Yeah what shot clock got me? What?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear you? Yeah? All right? That does it

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<v Speaker 1>for another edition of Talking Cowboys. I believe right, Kayden Gay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so we will talk at you again tomorrow.

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