Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: training live from Dallas Cowboys training Camp in Hawksnard, California.
Speaker 1: Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: all present and accounted for on a Thursday here in Oxnard, California.
Speaker 1: One week down, two weeks to go, Cowboys Camp two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Unbelievable. We're already through a week here. The
Speaker 1: team arrived here last Thursday. They will be departing in
Speaker 1: two weeks for Hawaii. Are you ready to go already? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm actually just here for four more days. I'm two
Speaker 1: thirds of the way through my stint here. Well that's
Speaker 1: too bad, because you're gonna miss this weather. I am.
Speaker 1: And we got the Marine Layer this morning. And the
Speaker 1: Cowboys return to the practice field today after the players
Speaker 1: had a day off on Wednesday. It's an afternoon practice.
Speaker 1: If you're in the area, come on out with a
Speaker 1: three thirty start time on practice this afternoon, five thirties
Speaker 1: Central time, and so much to get to as we
Speaker 1: get started here on another edition of Talking Cowboys. This
Speaker 1: is the first of four straight days of practice out here.
Speaker 1: It will culminate on Sunday evening Dallas time, six o'clock
Speaker 1: Dallas time. We'll be airing the Dallas Cowboys Annual Blue
Speaker 1: White Scrimmage on Texas twenty one in Dallas Fort Worth
Speaker 1: and right here on Dallas Cowboys dot com. So this
Speaker 1: is the lead up to that. Everyone enjoy your off
Speaker 1: day yesterday, even though we did we were here for
Speaker 1: another edition of Talking Cowboys yesterday morning. I figured out
Speaker 1: that without practice, without press conference, without interviews, after practice,
Speaker 1: we say five hours of work, of of just doing
Speaker 1: stuffing stuff to gather stuff to do our work right.
Speaker 1: For me, it was a good day to get caught
Speaker 1: up on things I needed to get caught up with
Speaker 1: as far as work goes. You get your San Francisco,
Speaker 1: what are you getting? Well, No, I'm just it's just
Speaker 1: getting narrowed in on players, rookies on this roster exactly
Speaker 1: getting ready for not only the scrimmage on UM Sunday,
Speaker 1: but also you know, the preseason games. We got all
Speaker 1: four preseason games this year, so we never really seemed
Speaker 1: to take the day off. You know, we're pretty much
Speaker 1: in that tent at least for a couple hours. And
Speaker 1: then because what they do is the Cowboys used that
Speaker 1: time usually to work out guys. They will workout guys
Speaker 1: on you maybe make a couple of roster moves, and
Speaker 1: they made one yesterday. They did you want to get
Speaker 1: to that roster move yesterday? Well, the roster move is
Speaker 1: I'm working the four guys out, and so they bring
Speaker 1: it in a couple one yeah, yeah. And then they
Speaker 1: decided to sign Justin Phillips, who was with the team
Speaker 1: right after the draft. It was let go earlier in
Speaker 1: the off season back now, a rookie out of Oklahoma
Speaker 1: State and Parland, Texas. And they released Larry Allen Junior yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, And this is I'll say about Larry
Speaker 1: Allen Junior. Don't feel sorry for the young man because
Speaker 1: he's got a degree from Harvard. He's better off than
Speaker 1: a lot of us right now, and I think he's
Speaker 1: going to go on and do great things. I will
Speaker 1: say this about Larry Allen and I we were talking
Speaker 1: about it kind of going a little pre show here
Speaker 1: that Larry Allen came into camp and actually looked better
Speaker 1: than he did in the OTAs and main camps. The
Speaker 1: five weeks that he had to be at the facility
Speaker 1: and lift and work on nutrition stuff like that. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. You know, IVY League, Harvard and all that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've had some players that have played in this league,
Speaker 1: but the strength programs not the same, you know. And
Speaker 1: he came in. I think he took advantage that he
Speaker 1: looked okay out here. I was worried about him getting
Speaker 1: run over. You know, he looked under sized, He looked
Speaker 1: over Matt and all that during the OTAs, but came
Speaker 1: out here and I think for the most part though,
Speaker 1: kind of did himself proud. You know. Mickey said he
Speaker 1: saw him on the way out of the place, and
Speaker 1: you know, he's probably disappointed that it ended this quickly
Speaker 1: for him. But I kind of saw him as if
Speaker 1: he made the practice squad, it was going to be
Speaker 1: it was going to be him just really blowing people away.
Speaker 1: I thought that was really the best level that I
Speaker 1: could see him attaining at the time. And I promise
Speaker 1: you that was not easy for Jerry Jones to do. No,
Speaker 1: because the relationship he has with that family, Yes, his dad,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they would have liked to take him
Speaker 1: all the way through preseason and see what he could
Speaker 1: do to try to make the team, make the practice squad.
Speaker 1: But it's about getting the ninety got right, ninety guys
Speaker 1: on the field, the best ninety you can get. And
Speaker 1: that's the decision they made. But you, like you said
Speaker 1: in the offseason, Brian Larry Allen Junior has already won.
Speaker 1: He's won this. He's won. He's one, He's got a
Speaker 1: degree in biomedical engineering. He is going to go do
Speaker 1: great things in this world. Yep, Absolutely, what's biomedical jury?
Speaker 1: What do you do with bio medical engineer? Do many
Speaker 1: more things than what you would do out of practice squad.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, he'll make more. He's gonna make more
Speaker 1: in a day than he'll make on a week and
Speaker 1: a practice squad. And you know what, and you know
Speaker 1: what happened. They their their hand got forced because they
Speaker 1: got short on linebackers. So the next question, right, they
Speaker 1: needed to make a move. I think they were down
Speaker 1: to linebackers. Yes, well also too, and and also yeah,
Speaker 1: and Andrew dwal is one of the college free agents
Speaker 1: out of Michigan State, right, just getting Covington back, right,
Speaker 1: So see, and it's funny you say that you know
Speaker 1: a hard cut for Jerry Jones and the relationship he has.
Speaker 1: I don't know if necessarily Jerry Jones would visit with
Speaker 1: a down the line player. I think that that Will
Speaker 1: or somebody would probably say, okay, hey, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Move on the fact that the owner general manager says
Speaker 1: goodbye to you and thank you and shake your hand.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones meets with players, don't get me wrong about this,
Speaker 1: but he also but I don't know if he would
Speaker 1: meet with a guy that you know, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we gotta make a roster move, Okay, get Jerry in
Speaker 1: here to say goodbye. Usually Jerry's like, you know, he
Speaker 1: lets Will or somebody else handle that. And but the
Speaker 1: fact he took the time because of the relationship with
Speaker 1: the family, probably be seeing dad this weekend and can't
Speaker 1: know how absolutely go. Yeah, I mean, and he's and
Speaker 1: and they've known him. I mean he grew up on
Speaker 1: the sideline in the locker room at some of these games.
Speaker 1: I mean when they were winning Super Bowls. By the way,
Speaker 1: we've got football tonight. Sure, Hall of Fame game is tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't he looking at me quizzically Denver in Atlanta? I
Speaker 1: was thinking The game was right on a Thursday night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and of course Gil Brandt goes into the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame this weekend. Jerry Jones, the presenter. Gil was going
Speaker 1: from here to Canton. Yeah, so he was out here
Speaker 1: on Monday. It was a great honor. I got invited
Speaker 1: to his ceremony. I really, Yeah, he was nice enough.
Speaker 1: It's so weird. You get a call from Canton, Ohio
Speaker 1: on your phone and you're like, what's so, that's how
Speaker 1: it works. Yeah, Well I got a call. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: invite you and I and I had to. I called
Speaker 1: Guil had to. I didn't recognize Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Well I had to. I mean, he was nice enough
Speaker 1: to invite me into his induction ceremony, and I had
Speaker 1: to decline because of the work we're doing and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But what a what a great honor that
Speaker 1: a man who really the godfather of scouting, the godfather
Speaker 1: of all the things that guys like myself that we
Speaker 1: have jobs in the National Football League or had jobs
Speaker 1: because the stuff that Gil Brandt did in scouting, in
Speaker 1: the way that he formulated his department. Gosh, he worked
Speaker 1: with some great scouts throughout his career and stuff. So
Speaker 1: it's nice to see personnel men be included into the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Uh ceremony and those his bust will
Speaker 1: sit right there very proudly among all those great players.
Speaker 1: Is the induction at night or during the day gets
Speaker 1: Saturday night, right, sorry, we can, we can. You can
Speaker 1: check it out absolutely, Yeah see it yeah live yeah
Speaker 1: right great, yeah, and uh, he'll go on for a
Speaker 1: while now, Gil will tell some stories. If he starts
Speaker 1: telling some stories, right, good for his When he told
Speaker 1: me the story about the first training camp, I learned
Speaker 1: something new because they had a split camp. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody knew they went to Forest Grove, Oregon. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they had to play games in the Midwest, preseason games.
Speaker 1: And so they found a place in Della Field, Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: at a military academy. And uh, he said he went
Speaker 1: and visited the place kind of did a site inspection
Speaker 1: in April, and he said the place was just appalling.
Speaker 1: The dorms were terrible, the lights were dim, he said,
Speaker 1: there were bats flying around in the building. A perfect place,
Speaker 1: he said. The commander. The commander told them, hey, don't worry,
Speaker 1: we're refurbishing all this stuff. And when you guys get
Speaker 1: back here in August will have it all spruced up.
Speaker 1: Not so much. They showed up and they sent the
Speaker 1: players into those dorms. Bats were still flying around. You
Speaker 1: could barely see. And he said the next morning when
Speaker 1: he woke up, there was a big statue on the
Speaker 1: on the on the campus of the military academy, and
Speaker 1: some of the players went and hung him in effigen
Speaker 1: They got they got a dummy thing and a rope
Speaker 1: and hung it on the on the statue. Because it's like, Gil,
Speaker 1: you brought us here. They had to fly like from
Speaker 1: San Antonio on a DC six so an airplane right
Speaker 1: uh to Milwaukee and bust two hours to this military
Speaker 1: academy to practice for like maybe a week before they
Speaker 1: went to the next game. One other part of the
Speaker 1: history lesson from Mickey here the first year the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty and of course this is the sixtieth
Speaker 1: year of Dallas Cowboys football. They were there at Pacific University.
Speaker 1: Probably got there basically July fourth, I mean, you know what,
Speaker 1: sixth preseason July ninth. And he remember about the day
Speaker 1: he told me we six So we're talking we're talking
Speaker 1: about yeah, they had six Okay, they had six preseason games, okay,
Speaker 1: and where I just started this show talking about where
Speaker 1: one week, now we got two weeks to go, how
Speaker 1: are we gonna make it the next two weeks? And
Speaker 1: they started, So they started July ninth in uh in Oregon.
Speaker 1: Their first preseason game was August sixth in Seattle against
Speaker 1: San Francisco, so that's a month of trade. So then
Speaker 1: they were there probably another week, okay, because their second
Speaker 1: preseason game was in San Antonio, so they traveled from
Speaker 1: Seattle to San Antonio. They played Saint Louis in San Antonio.
Speaker 1: Then they played a home game against Baltimore six days later,
Speaker 1: so maybe I'm sure they stayed in Dallas during that
Speaker 1: week and then they padded off to where you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Their next preseason game was at Louisville at Louisville against
Speaker 1: the Giants on August twenty seventh. Then September fourth, they
Speaker 1: came back out here at Pendleton, which I guess is
Speaker 1: Camp Pendleton where they filmed over poleshow it's it's It's
Speaker 1: It's it's Oregon, Oh, Pendleton, Oregon against LA and then
Speaker 1: at Minnesota against Green Bay to close it out, so
Speaker 1: that they were that one must have been when they
Speaker 1: went to Wisconsin. God. So their their preseason in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty started on July ninth in Oregon and their whoa
Speaker 1: wait a second, Okay, their last preseason game with September eleventh.
Speaker 1: Their first regular season game wasn't until September twenty fourth,
Speaker 1: another two weeks after that last preseason game. So they
Speaker 1: started July ninth, and then they finally played their first
Speaker 1: regular season game September twenty fourth, and they won their
Speaker 1: only game. It amongst those six preseason games in Louisville
Speaker 1: against the Giants. Yeah, because Jerry said that they're gonna
Speaker 1: kick their butts. And the game, the game they played
Speaker 1: against um was it? Uh? Did they played Baltimore? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Speak like fourteen to ten? Or yes they did? Mo
Speaker 1: You got a great memory. No, I'd look guilded now. No,
Speaker 1: I looked it up. It was Johnny Unitas to Lenny
Speaker 1: Moore in the final minute of the game. And why
Speaker 1: were they playing in Louisville? Why were they That's where
Speaker 1: Johnny Nis is from. Why was Johnny and Nias played
Speaker 1: for the Giants? No? No, no, no, you're talking about
Speaker 1: the Baltimore The next week that that's where I got
Speaker 1: that was the only all right, let's go to periscope. Cowboys? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How about yeah? Cowboys? That was talking about that was
Speaker 1: a tribute to Gil brand I was, you're not going
Speaker 1: to dis our tribute to I love Gil. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy for him. I am. Okay, we'll get a periscope
Speaker 1: and thanks again for everybody in pariscope. It's kind of
Speaker 1: hanging out with us today. We talked about this yesterday,
Speaker 1: but Mickey, since we do have a question about I'll
Speaker 1: start with you on this one. How is Travis Frederick
Speaker 1: looking in camp so far? We'll just kind of rehash
Speaker 1: what we talked about yesterday. You kind of had an
Speaker 1: idea about Travis Frederick King his first padded practice and
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, his strength was good. He was
Speaker 1: worried about his power and his legs, and I think
Speaker 1: that was good. But he was just a tick off.
Speaker 1: His steps were just a tad behind I think what
Speaker 1: he would want to be. He even said it's going
Speaker 1: to take a while. He hadn't been in pads for
Speaker 1: a year, probably more than a year by time they
Speaker 1: figured out what was wrong with him last year, and
Speaker 1: then the shoulder surgery, the umbilical core the umbilical hernia.
Speaker 1: I said, cordn't have one of those, right. Uh. But
Speaker 1: other than that, you know, he just needs to get
Speaker 1: back out there and they're gonna ease him back in
Speaker 1: and you know, but yeah, he'll improve. But it was
Speaker 1: it was a good sign his strength and his power
Speaker 1: was there. Now he just needs to figure out the
Speaker 1: mass confusion in front of him. I looked it up.
Speaker 1: It was just about a year ago, maybe a little
Speaker 1: less because it was in camp. He left camp, went
Speaker 1: to LA I think, to see doctors, right, and at
Speaker 1: the time they thought stingers and then he kept getting
Speaker 1: second opinions and then found out late August last year
Speaker 1: was when they found out about the GPS diagnosis. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a long time, and expect him just to
Speaker 1: adjust the speed of the game as he keeps going.
Speaker 1: Overall impression of Dak Prescott so far, Glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and I've been I've been impressed with him
Speaker 1: and one of the things that I have every year,
Speaker 1: it seems like I'm more impressed with his conditioning. He
Speaker 1: comes into camp, it's slimmer and slimmer every year. It
Speaker 1: seems like I had a conversation with him last year
Speaker 1: about it and his weight. He puts on weight as
Speaker 1: the season goes on, but I think it's really a
Speaker 1: credit to his offseason conditioning. I remember two years ago,
Speaker 1: maybe after his rookie season, Mickey, you and I were
Speaker 1: taping a blitz show in the locker room and here
Speaker 1: comes this was this was in early March, before the
Speaker 1: offseason program had started, and here's a sweating Dak coming
Speaker 1: out off the practice or out of the weight room
Speaker 1: or whatever you know, to into it to his locker
Speaker 1: and I thought that was a signal that, Okay, here
Speaker 1: it is. He's the only guy up there and he's
Speaker 1: working out. But I think he looks, he looks he
Speaker 1: looks sharp this off season with his passage, accuracy and
Speaker 1: so forth, and I think there's a lot of reason
Speaker 1: to think that this his game is going to elevate
Speaker 1: even further this year. And I'm sure when he came
Speaker 1: walking through, I probably said something smart like, oh, did
Speaker 1: you hit her rain shower out there? Coming in? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll sweat you up now. I told that. I told
Speaker 1: that to Parcels one day. He was walking he was
Speaker 1: he was walking down the hall. He had one of
Speaker 1: those great t shirts, sweat shows on the Great His
Speaker 1: Coaching show that way, didn't he no the blue sweat
Speaker 1: top and he would be sweating while he was doing
Speaker 1: the show, so I can change into a suit. As
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, what did you do? Take
Speaker 1: a hose and hose yourself down? He goes, I was
Speaker 1: working out. He does the elliptical. Yeah, they trust me.
Speaker 1: I know that. I did it for an hour and
Speaker 1: I said, and then he looks at me, you work out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And he started asking me all these questions about my
Speaker 1: physical you know, like you to get a physical every year. Yes, coach,
Speaker 1: how do you weigh one hundred and fifty pounds? You know?
Speaker 1: Are you guys seeing any difference at killing Moore's no,
Speaker 1: see anything different that you kind of feel like that,
Speaker 1: you know that maybe it's a little bit different from
Speaker 1: what you saw with Scott Linahan. Personnel groups are different. Um,
Speaker 1: some of the pre snap movement, which is what they
Speaker 1: talked about. I mean, it's what do the rams do.
Speaker 1: They do a lot of window dressing, right, but their
Speaker 1: offense doesn't necessarily change a whole heck of a lot. Right.
Speaker 1: The other thing is the ball, I would say, the
Speaker 1: balls going down field more. But they tried that last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they tried a lot of you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: go routes and stuff. They just didn't connect on until
Speaker 1: the quarterback starts getting sacked fifty six times during the season,
Speaker 1: That is true, Mickey, Uh, I got one. I'm on
Speaker 1: Keller Moore. Yeah. Um, and it's stung in cheek. Okay.
Speaker 1: It's all this work on the Boise State hook and
Speaker 1: lateral and the Statue of Liberty that I know. This
Speaker 1: the big difference there and the five wide receiver sets.
Speaker 1: Speaking of wide receivers, maky, how has Jalen Guden been
Speaker 1: looking to you chances he makes the team? Do you
Speaker 1: think it's gonna come down to one of those guys?
Speaker 1: One of those I don't know he's he's coming on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I think everybody saw John Vay in the
Speaker 1: OTAs in the mini camps, but uh, since we got
Speaker 1: out here and especially when the pads come on, Uh,
Speaker 1: people can't you know he's another guy. They can't run
Speaker 1: with him on the nine route. Yeah, he'll He'll blow
Speaker 1: right by and he does a good job of adjusting
Speaker 1: the ball and catching it. I think he got it
Speaker 1: down towarding his same boy, he did against Denton Geyer
Speaker 1: when he played it Allen that's right, the same way
Speaker 1: at North Texas, right anything they're up. Could both of
Speaker 1: those guys make the team? Is it possible? Well, it's gonna.
Speaker 1: I think it would take attrition at the wide receiver position. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we all though. I mean, you know with
Speaker 1: Alan Hearne's not here, there's part of the attrition right there.
Speaker 1: Give him, give him Tavon. That's four. Yeah, there's two spots.
Speaker 1: Have two more spots. We haven't seen Noah Brown yet.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna. That's not a good thing. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: But somebody on the show set yesterday, whether you like
Speaker 1: it or not, he's a special teams guy. They like him.
Speaker 1: Maybe these guys can play. They can. You'll settle up
Speaker 1: with Keith though Quinn. He'll tell you that about that
Speaker 1: special team Cedric. Cedric Wilson showed up a little bit too.
Speaker 1: He's put space. I'll get it out play special teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis can return kicks. Doesn't look bad Minters did
Speaker 1: in the fact that returning punts, because if he could
Speaker 1: show enough there, maybe that's enough to get a spot.
Speaker 1: But I mean his speed, I don't know if anybody
Speaker 1: runs quite like him straight on speed on roster, except
Speaker 1: I'll quote Chris Hall when I asked him about his speed.
Speaker 1: Chris Hall said, and Chris is kind of the what
Speaker 1: like director, coordinator college got it? Yeah, coordinator, And he
Speaker 1: said that guy can run out of site. Yeah, his
Speaker 1: socks move faster than everyone else's. Yeah, that's what it is. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: All right, let's we'll get to more Paris questions coming
Speaker 1: up there. Also, I'm on Twitter at CBS eleven Bill Jones.
Speaker 1: We've got our car wash with Dak today right the
Speaker 1: local TV stations talking with Dak. I want some questions
Speaker 1: for Dak. I've got my own questions, but I want
Speaker 1: to throw it out there if you got any questions
Speaker 1: for Dak and the other thing I want to get
Speaker 1: into in our next segment. There's a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about the talent on this team. This is the best
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Speaker 1: Back to Talking Cowboys, Talking Cowboys continues from here in Oxnard, California.
Speaker 1: Cowboys hit the practice field for a walkthrough this morning,
Speaker 1: shortly after we get off the air, and this afternoon
Speaker 1: they practice. In fact, the next four days they're all
Speaker 1: afternoon practices Thursday through Sunday, and then their next day
Speaker 1: off will come on Wednesday. First preseason game is a
Speaker 1: week from Saturday in Santa Clara against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Second preseason game will be in Hawaii against the Rams.
Speaker 1: They leave here in two weeks on Thursday, August fifteenth
Speaker 1: for that preseason again. That's when they break camp and
Speaker 1: then they will have They Cowboys made the announcement yesterday,
Speaker 1: the official announcement the training camp in Frisco that will
Speaker 1: be free and open to the public. It's as we
Speaker 1: welcome back football in the Dallas Foot War theory of
Speaker 1: August twentieth through the twenty seventh, and you can find
Speaker 1: the details on that Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We take
Speaker 1: your questions here on periscope with Brian and good numbers
Speaker 1: on periscope as usual. I'm sure yes. And Mickey wants
Speaker 1: to bring up something about Michael thomas contract with the Saints,
Speaker 1: how it might relate to Amari Cooper. I think microphone fall.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys would love to sign MARII Cooper
Speaker 1: to Michael Thomas's contract because when you go inside the numbers,
Speaker 1: basically it's a three year, forty five million dollars deal
Speaker 1: that they can get out of. But wait, it was
Speaker 1: announced as five years, and it's really five years nine
Speaker 1: up to ninety six million, Okay, not one hundred ninety six.
Speaker 1: Whoever reported the hundred kind of pushed the envelope a
Speaker 1: little bit to make it sound better. But they can
Speaker 1: get out of this contract after three years. Now there'll
Speaker 1: be eight million dollars of dead money. They can get
Speaker 1: out of it after four years, would only four million
Speaker 1: dead and sixty million paid out, So four years, sixty million.
Speaker 1: The guarantee runs out after four years, so that to me,
Speaker 1: my simple math tells me that's fifteen million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you be okay, with signing Amari Cooper to a
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars sixty one guarantee, I think that's more
Speaker 1: in line to what they would like to do right exactly,
Speaker 1: And the last two years of his contract that aren't
Speaker 1: guaranteed total thirty four million dollars thirty four in the
Speaker 1: last two years of just basically signing our base salary.
Speaker 1: The other thing is, I don't know if everybody can
Speaker 1: see this, but there's a list of contingencies here that
Speaker 1: he can earn if he does this or this, and
Speaker 1: it all adds up to a couple million dollars more So,
Speaker 1: it's like, I'll just give you one example. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, his per game active bonus is thirty one thousand,
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty a game, so that's five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. He also has some incentives where if he
Speaker 1: checked this out twelve touched any of these twelve touchdowns,
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred receiving yards, fourteen hundred receiver yards, and a
Speaker 1: playoff game, one hundred receptions, one hundred receptions and a
Speaker 1: playoff game, he can get three hundred and seventy five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for each of those incentives after Drew Brees retires.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so there's a lot of funny money in
Speaker 1: there that makes it look like, oh, it's twenty million
Speaker 1: a year. It is not twenty million a year. It's
Speaker 1: fifteen million a year when you deal with where the
Speaker 1: guarantees are. And they didn't change his base salary much
Speaker 1: for this year. It's only like one point uh six
Speaker 1: million dollars because he handed him twenty million signing bonus.
Speaker 1: And what I've been told is because of the way
Speaker 1: the CBA's going to be structor is structured for next year,
Speaker 1: the signing bonuses are going to be smaller, Right, They're
Speaker 1: going to be smaller so that you can get out
Speaker 1: of the contract and there'll be more of these big
Speaker 1: base salaries because of the thirty percent rules. So don't
Speaker 1: get all fired up. And you know Steven Jones, you
Speaker 1: know he was on the ticket the other day or
Speaker 1: yesterday it was yes, but he was on the ticket.
Speaker 1: And if I'm going to give him credit for the quote, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Stephen said, we can't push the issue unless we want
Speaker 1: to be a market setter, and we're damn sure not
Speaker 1: going to be a market senter because of all the
Speaker 1: things that go with being a Dallas cowboy. So basically
Speaker 1: what he is saying, we gotta do Amari, we gotta
Speaker 1: do Zeke, we gotta do Dak and he goes in,
Speaker 1: it's not Jerry's money, it's the money that would go
Speaker 1: to other players that we have to be careful so
Speaker 1: we can sign. And then he went on and talked
Speaker 1: about Byron Jones got to be signed, Lal Collins got
Speaker 1: to be signed, Jalen Smith's gotta be signed, Collins and
Speaker 1: LC Collins. So there's other guys that they've got to
Speaker 1: worry about. I don't know what the Saints have to do, right,
Speaker 1: but fifteen million a year when Mamari's making fourteen million
Speaker 1: this year, I'd do it tomorrow. That's interesting. You brought
Speaker 1: that up because the fans are fired up because the
Speaker 1: reaction was, all right, you saw wins get a deal.
Speaker 1: Does the market go up for Dak? Now? All right?
Speaker 1: You son, Michael Thomas get a deal. Why are they
Speaker 1: waiting so long and letting other teams set the market.
Speaker 1: That's just not how they view it though, right exactly.
Speaker 1: And you know what, if you look on the inside
Speaker 1: of Winz's deal and you consider what he's getting paid
Speaker 1: this because it's an extension. So the years of base
Speaker 1: salaries he's has still counts, and if you count those
Speaker 1: along with the extension, it would average over the next
Speaker 1: six years like twenty twenty seven million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Would you do that with Dak right now? Absolutely? So
Speaker 1: He's not a thirty million dollars a year man, when
Speaker 1: you consider what he's got to make first before he
Speaker 1: gets to the extension. So my word out to everybody is,
Speaker 1: look inside the contract. Don't take the number that first
Speaker 1: comes out, because that's an agent number, and all he's
Speaker 1: doing is advertising for his business to be able to
Speaker 1: sign the next guy. And he can say, look, I
Speaker 1: got Michael Thomas, the biggest contract ever for a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: which I don't. All I know is I think Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Juniors is like eighteen million a year. Can I
Speaker 1: ask a question? Maybe it's a little bit off topic here,
Speaker 1: but I was just sitting there listening to Mickey as
Speaker 1: a great analogy or a great explanation what's going on.
Speaker 1: As much as Jerry Jones loves the players, you know,
Speaker 1: and wants to take care of the players, do you
Speaker 1: think this whole thing with Zeke has shook him a
Speaker 1: little bit that his you know, And I'm no, I'm
Speaker 1: asking an unfair question here because I'm asking you to
Speaker 1: jump into Jerry Jones mind. But you guys all know Jerry.
Speaker 1: You know he's has such loyalty to his guys. Is
Speaker 1: does this does this shake him going forward? That he thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, Okay, I put my neck out for
Speaker 1: this guy. I drafted him. I wanted him here through
Speaker 1: all he's gone through, all all all the things he's
Speaker 1: gone through, the fights he's had with Roger Goodell, the
Speaker 1: fights he's had with the league, the legal fights and
Speaker 1: all that. The ah, he's gonna play this week. No,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna play. Yes, he's gonna play. No, I mean,
Speaker 1: does this decision shake? Does this shake Jerry Jones? Now?
Speaker 1: Because I think he's mad that it's happening, and he's
Speaker 1: done a very good job of controlling himself, although in
Speaker 1: the press conference he started getting to the crux of
Speaker 1: the matter there. I don't think he gets mad at
Speaker 1: the player. I think he gets mad at the agent. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because he's just fallen along. Zeke didn't wake up one morning,
Speaker 1: can go you know, what I think I'm gonna hold out, right,
Speaker 1: So someone told him there, somebody told him this is
Speaker 1: how we're gonna set your money. So someone someone, He
Speaker 1: woke up and someone said, listen, you know they're they're
Speaker 1: gonna give you four hundred carries again this year. You
Speaker 1: okay with that? Do you think that's kind of how?
Speaker 1: I mean? Zeke's like, nah, just let him. I like
Speaker 1: to play. No, he saw what's happening with Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1: Sure no, but but someone told him, Hey, they're gonna
Speaker 1: give you four hundred carries four or touches again. I
Speaker 1: mean it was like Emmett's first rookie year. Sure he
Speaker 1: wasn't mad at Emmett, he didn't even hardly know him,
Speaker 1: but he sure knew those two agents, and he wasn't
Speaker 1: really happy with them. I agree with you up to
Speaker 1: a point. Up to a point because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, who works for who? Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: telling you agents, he's twenty four years Do you think
Speaker 1: Zeke understands the salary capit rules? Do you think he
Speaker 1: understands what market value is? Somebody has to explain it
Speaker 1: to him, and you get a smart guy. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to say he's some sort of dummy, because if
Speaker 1: you talk to the players, he's a smart dude. I
Speaker 1: just know, I just know. When the Tank deal got done,
Speaker 1: it was DeMarcus Lawrence getting on the phone with Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones and saying, let's figure this out, okay, because I
Speaker 1: know I need surgery and I want to play this year.
Speaker 1: There you go, so we'll it have to come to
Speaker 1: that point. Maybe it does well then you know, maybe
Speaker 1: it will. But I'm saying the agents running this thing.
Speaker 1: So that's uh. The reaction from the Foundation seventy seven
Speaker 1: on Twitter question for Dak would be calls Zeke so Zeke,
Speaker 1: Coop and himself to leave their agents at home and
Speaker 1: have all three deal with the Joneses and McClay to
Speaker 1: get a deal done. It's what he and everybody in
Speaker 1: the room. Bobby Lagger did his own deal in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's right. Yeah, that's a market for Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if without an agent you could
Speaker 1: do all this, you know, Well yeah, I just I
Speaker 1: just wanted to know if, because like I said, Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones is so loyal to his players, He really is loyal.
Speaker 1: He'll do anything he can to help his players. Even
Speaker 1: you know, we've had people ask about any update on
Speaker 1: Randy Gregor. I haven't heard anything on Randy Gregory, but
Speaker 1: think about him just going to bat him. Think of
Speaker 1: him trying to give an extra three hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: to Randy Gregory on really a contract extension, knowing that
Speaker 1: potentially this could happen where Randy gets suspended for the
Speaker 1: whole year. At least Randy could have some money to
Speaker 1: live on, you know. I mean that's you're you're an owner,
Speaker 1: and you're saying, you know, I gotta we gotta find
Speaker 1: a way to help him. We gotta find a way
Speaker 1: to help this guy. And I just wonder if, if
Speaker 1: you know, maybe someday I'll I'll ask here, if i'd
Speaker 1: see him, I'd say this, you're confidence shaken when on
Speaker 1: players this way. I think he might be right. We
Speaker 1: don't know for sure, but I think Mickey's right about
Speaker 1: the agent. But I just wonder if it's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm busting my ass to try and help the situations,
Speaker 1: and I and you're and what are you doing to me?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have many campaigns left. I don't
Speaker 1: have many campaigns to walk up there and try and
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. I assemble the best team I can.
Speaker 1: You know, I've paid Lineman, I've paid uh yeah, I've
Speaker 1: paid all these defensive players. I've paid people. And I'm
Speaker 1: trying to win this damn thing and you're and you're
Speaker 1: not helping me, right, And these guys are now they've
Speaker 1: got you know, the core players, sure, meaning even Dak
Speaker 1: and Zeke. They are now going to their fourth year.
Speaker 1: So they are in the prime of Okay, they there's
Speaker 1: no none of the rookie stuff. It's okay, how good
Speaker 1: are they going to be the second year or the
Speaker 1: third year? Now they are in it. Okay, So you'll
Speaker 1: get your answer to that if they enforce the fines
Speaker 1: you think, so, which there they can do now? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, no, I mean the um and and after
Speaker 1: and asked for the fifteen percent of thirteen And what
Speaker 1: day did you say we were This is if you
Speaker 1: count Friday like reporting was, this is seven days right, right,
Speaker 1: So that's forty thousand dollars a day. That's two hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty thousand dollars already that he can be fine
Speaker 1: if they want to, Yeah, if they want to, If
Speaker 1: they want to enforce it. And then now that the
Speaker 1: six hundred and thirteen on the signing bonus, and it
Speaker 1: can go up one percent each day until it gets
Speaker 1: to twenty five percent. You can ask another question. You
Speaker 1: think that Jerry and they were playing this knowing that
Speaker 1: Zeke can't match the pot. If Jerry calls, you know,
Speaker 1: in the using poker terms, what do you mean, can't
Speaker 1: match the pot? Zeke doesn't have the money to match
Speaker 1: the fine pot. Well, yeah, not the fine pot, but
Speaker 1: just maybe overall, maybe he doesn't have every dime. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's not Terence Newman and has every you know knows
Speaker 1: you know it knows where his first nickel was. Well,
Speaker 1: do you think they're playing a game whether where Jerry's
Speaker 1: looking at him and going, Okay, I know you don't
Speaker 1: have enough money to match that pot. That's possible, But
Speaker 1: I go back. I think I said this when this
Speaker 1: he first held out. Is it's a precedent thing. They
Speaker 1: can't they are So we just mentioned all these guys
Speaker 1: are gonna be up for deals after this current group.
Speaker 1: You can't set a precedent of Oh, there's no question right, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're not here. We gotta get a deal, said that.
Speaker 1: I mean, let me ask you this, all right, I
Speaker 1: thought of this this morning. How much is it on
Speaker 1: the agent or Zeke's mind that the head coach is
Speaker 1: going into the last year of a contract. I don't
Speaker 1: think he cares well from this From this standpoint, this
Speaker 1: offense is based on Zeke being a key member of it.
Speaker 1: If if you changed coaches after this year and you
Speaker 1: brought in now, I'll throw out Lincoln Riley, sure, But
Speaker 1: but Lincoln Riley coach, he would he would love Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: So let's say a college coach who spread it out
Speaker 1: and they don't rely Mike Leach, they don't rely on
Speaker 1: a r I could us to do what this offense
Speaker 1: asked him to do. Sky is that on their mind
Speaker 1: at all? That we need to get our money now
Speaker 1: because we don't know what's gonna happen even six months
Speaker 1: from now with this, with this offense and what Zeke
Speaker 1: means to this team six months from now because of
Speaker 1: the uncertain status of the head coach. It's not a
Speaker 1: bad thought. No, I don't disagree, but I don't know
Speaker 1: that you can do what you're saying they could do
Speaker 1: in one offseason. Well, and the reason I asked that
Speaker 1: is there's a lot of people who say, WHOA, he's
Speaker 1: got two years left on his contract. He needs to
Speaker 1: honor his contract. He makes nine million next year, right,
Speaker 1: but he needs to honor his contract. He shouldn't be
Speaker 1: asking to renegotiate. Now, this is a little different than
Speaker 1: a normal contract, and when you're talking about a sports team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because of those kinds of factors. I don't think Zeke's
Speaker 1: focusing on Jason Garrett. Yeah, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's a primary thing, but maybe that's part of it.
Speaker 1: I just my gut is that if Zeke, I think
Speaker 1: the players are okay with him holding out until we
Speaker 1: get to that first game, and then once it gets
Speaker 1: into if he's holding out week one, week two, week three,
Speaker 1: then it's become it's going to become a little contentious
Speaker 1: when Dicky asks when when it hurts them? See, this
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt this doesn't hurt them now, but Micky, when
Speaker 1: Micky goes in there and the pad open and ask
Speaker 1: a really tough question like about you know, now, you're
Speaker 1: going to see some guys gritting so well. And this
Speaker 1: is what I wonder when he gets down to that,
Speaker 1: if it does. Everybody looks who who's who's his best
Speaker 1: buddy on the team, Dak Press, Scott Press, are they?
Speaker 1: I mean, he's really gonna leave Dak high and dry
Speaker 1: in this situation we're trying to go on Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if he really feels like financially,
Speaker 1: that's what he's got to do for his future. Okay,
Speaker 1: but I gotta see that. I gotta see that because
Speaker 1: all it takes is one loss that could decide this division.
Speaker 1: You know, all it takes is one miss game right
Speaker 1: to decide this thing. And this is built to your
Speaker 1: point talking when all these guys going in their fourth year.
Speaker 1: One thing we don't talk about is all these guys
Speaker 1: down the line, all these worker b guys, role players
Speaker 1: down the roster who have contracts expiring. Randall Cobb has
Speaker 1: an expiring contract after this year. Robert Quinn, this might
Speaker 1: be the best shot this team has because this team
Speaker 1: could look there's a lot of young guys, a lot
Speaker 1: of good young talent, but this roster could look drastically
Speaker 1: different next year one fifty three. Yeah, because about Jerry.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked the question about Jerry. Yeah, did
Speaker 1: he feels a little betrayed right now? Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: is this the cowboys best roster says win when we
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Speaker 1: typewriter and I'll write you guys under the table, Smith Corolla,
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Speaker 1: still have a typewriter. It's my affordable one that I
Speaker 1: used to carry to the games. And you take the
Speaker 1: copy and put it on the telecopier and they would
Speaker 1: spin it back to those new spas. What sportswotter did
Speaker 1: you almost punch? Because you use your phone? Jr. And
Speaker 1: I would have probably been right behind you. If you
Speaker 1: didn't get a good shot on him, I'd have got
Speaker 1: him from that old press box in San Diego Jack
Speaker 1: Murphy Stadio, back when you had to Jack Murphy order
Speaker 1: your own phone line to be able to an old
Speaker 1: sports writer himself. Oh Jack Murphy was a good one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a nice night. There'd be a Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 1: stadium somewhere. I doubt that Chicago Heights. Just wait, little League.
Speaker 1: Maybe they probably forgot I was there. Now they've already
Speaker 1: named those stadiums after people from fifty years ago Jack
Speaker 1: Kin cannon Jack cannon Field. All right, um no, actually,
Speaker 1: Sam Piazza, Sam Piazza, Okay, Cowboys, all right, this Cowboys roster.
Speaker 1: Michael Irvin was out here the other day. He said
Speaker 1: that he believes this is the most talented Cowboys roster. Well,
Speaker 1: he said in twenty five years, but he meant since
Speaker 1: the Cowboys last won a Super Bowl. And then he
Speaker 1: corrected himself and said, since the Cowboys last won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, best Cowboys roster since then. Tony Romo was
Speaker 1: interviewed yesterday or the day before and Tyler Texas playing
Speaker 1: in the Texas his state amateur Did he win? I
Speaker 1: believe he missed the cut, but uh stuff Uh he
Speaker 1: shot of seventy six the second day, which wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1: But he said this, he believes this is the most
Speaker 1: talented Cowboys roster since he first came into the league,
Speaker 1: which was two thousand and three. He probably could take
Speaker 1: it back further than that, but that's all he qualified
Speaker 1: it with. So how this is the most talented Cowboys
Speaker 1: roster since when I'm gonna try to save this thing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to save this team from the outside
Speaker 1: hype because every time this happens. It doesn't work out
Speaker 1: every time, So I'm I'm going to disagree. I'm going
Speaker 1: to disagree. Wait, why are you granted? Because I'd love
Speaker 1: the what you're saying. I remember, was it two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine? It was a Cowboys camp in San Antonio,
Speaker 1: and I remember talking to Peter King, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: asking him about this. He was talking about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, and he thought that that Cowboys offensive line. No,
Speaker 1: it was the it was last year, the last year, Wade,
Speaker 1: it was twenty ten, yeah, okay, when they got old, yeah, suddenly,
Speaker 1: And he said in his big deal that training camp
Speaker 1: was this is the best Cowboys offensive line. I put
Speaker 1: it on a par with those Super Bowl teams of
Speaker 1: the night. I remember that now. And and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: started the year well one and seven and seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was thinking oh eight, when Hard Knox was here
Speaker 1: and it was it was Super Bowl or bust. I
Speaker 1: truly believe it. I don't think you can say they're
Speaker 1: they're better on paper necessarily than the Oh seven team
Speaker 1: that went thirteen and three and should have gotten to
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game at minimum. You know, they had
Speaker 1: the Giants at home didn't win that game, and that
Speaker 1: looked like a huge missed opportunity. Um, let's look at
Speaker 1: that team. I mean, Tony Romo was in his prime,
Speaker 1: put up sky Wars numbers that year. Um, you had
Speaker 1: a nice two headed running attack. I had heard that
Speaker 1: you had a t O guy remember Tarall Owens, Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, DeMarcus ware Rush and the passer, a big
Speaker 1: dominant offensive line. I mean, I don't think we're getting
Speaker 1: enough credit to that team, but there's no doubt this
Speaker 1: team has a ton of young talent. That's what's so
Speaker 1: exciting about is how young these guys are. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you gotta go. You go back to two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven, flows Al Adams, Kyle Kozar Okay, so okay,
Speaker 1: Andre Gerard Leonard Davis was still playing well, Mark Colombo, Witten.
Speaker 1: I forgot about Witting in his prime. And then you
Speaker 1: you shared the running back spot with Julius Jones and
Speaker 1: Mary and Barber. And that was the year that Barber
Speaker 1: scored ten touchdowns after Julius Jones did all the work
Speaker 1: getting the ball down to the five yard line. And
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, Mary and go score Bill. Just that
Speaker 1: wasn't Bill. It was it would have been Jason right
Speaker 1: because offensive coordinator, but Bill had started it the years before.
Speaker 1: It's like Julius did all the work and then Barbar
Speaker 1: got all the touchdowns. Say they say, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with the big back at the at the goal line.
Speaker 1: Witton had ninety six catches, Owen's eighty one, and Craton fifty.
Speaker 1: You know, if your third receiver gets fifty catches, you'll
Speaker 1: take that right now. So that that roster was pretty good.
Speaker 1: Hit me the ninety two or ninety three cowboy roster. Well, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that we no, I'm just saying. And
Speaker 1: then go back to nineteen seventy seven. So I thought
Speaker 1: ninety three Super Bowl team ninety three was probably their
Speaker 1: their best. Yeah, you had two and a Newton Stepnoski uh,
Speaker 1: Kevin Gogan at right guard and Eric Williams at right tackle. Okay,
Speaker 1: different line for the way they different kind of different
Speaker 1: kind of line. This is the These were bullies and
Speaker 1: the line today is more athletic movement. So in the
Speaker 1: era of being a bully, that that was the best
Speaker 1: you could be. Right there. Emmett runs for fourteen hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty six yards. Um he also caught fifty seven passes.
Speaker 1: Michael had reception. It was the ninety four offensive line.
Speaker 1: It changed because Larry Allen. Larry Allen ended up at
Speaker 1: right tackle because that was when Eric got accident. So
Speaker 1: basically it was two and a Newton Stepnoski. Derek Nard
Speaker 1: was pretty still good. Okay, but imagine that if Eric
Speaker 1: Williams hadn't had his accident. Yeah, they would have had
Speaker 1: two and a Nate step Larry Allen at guard at
Speaker 1: Eric Williams at tackle. Wives. Who's the only guy on
Speaker 1: this current offensive line that would have started on that group?
Speaker 1: Zack Martin maybe, yeah, Zach would have Zach probably gets
Speaker 1: in at at guard. Okay, would you taken Frederick healthy
Speaker 1: Frederick ober step now, and and you guys know better
Speaker 1: than me on that, and you probably Tyrn Smith over
Speaker 1: two and a two and a was good, but he
Speaker 1: ain't Tyron Smith, Right, that's true. That's true. God rest
Speaker 1: his soul. Yea a great player. Wow. So, and Mike
Speaker 1: wasn't saying since those teams not that, not that, No, no,
Speaker 1: no talented than oh no, not at all right, No,
Speaker 1: he's saying that in the last however, twenty four years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he believes that this is the most talented roster since
Speaker 1: the Cowboys won a Super Bowl. He might be right.
Speaker 1: I wish you guys could go back and look at
Speaker 1: that seventy seven team. I keep mentioning that. And that's
Speaker 1: the one with Staubach and Pearson and Dorset and Robert Newhouse,
Speaker 1: Randy White, Harvey Martin, you know, the secondary probably Aaron Kyle, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Charlie Waters, Cliff Harris, you know, yeah, those are those
Speaker 1: are all teams. Danny White was your punter. See this
Speaker 1: is See that's why I'm saying, if you if you
Speaker 1: say that, and you have to think of the great histories, right,
Speaker 1: And I grew up in that era from nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: two to nineteen ninety two of watching his team play.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'll always fight for guys from that era,
Speaker 1: you know, before the jones Is bought the team in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, because they played damn good football. They
Speaker 1: were very similar to what the Patriots are today. Might
Speaker 1: have been the best Cowboys team ever with that roster,
Speaker 1: and not without doubt, see so and so, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate Michael or I appreciate Tony Romo, but again I've
Speaker 1: lived through some of this, and I go back and
Speaker 1: think about those teams and it's it's high praise. Oh,
Speaker 1: this is the best. Now maybe they're saying it's because
Speaker 1: since we've known the team. Maybe that's the attitude you
Speaker 1: have to take. And they're not they're not saying that
Speaker 1: it's better. They're better. Time the Super Bowl teams, they're
Speaker 1: saying they're better since they won the Super they might
Speaker 1: not win the division and look at it. This is team.
Speaker 1: Look how close they came to not winning it last year.
Speaker 1: Absolutely Rob said it one game. This is still this
Speaker 1: is still a young team. Yeah, that's that's part of
Speaker 1: the excitement that has to be signed. And the defense
Speaker 1: is young. Yeah, you've got guys that are you know,
Speaker 1: for second or third year that into this thing. That's young.
Speaker 1: That's why I think people will compare it. And Mike
Speaker 1: might be comparing it because it's like the ninety one
Speaker 1: team last year. I think you've made that comparison before.
Speaker 1: Now they're ascending, you're hoping they're ascending, and they're kind
Speaker 1: of to a point they're hitting the sweet spot of
Speaker 1: where those ascending players and then they bring these veteran
Speaker 1: guys in if if they if they still got what
Speaker 1: we think that they have left, like a Robert Quinn,
Speaker 1: like a Randall Cobb. You know those are that better
Speaker 1: press even they only have now with Morris, they got four.
Speaker 1: But if Whitner can play like he played before, you
Speaker 1: know that one player might wreck this. About it? That
Speaker 1: one player, Oh yeah, he might wreck this. He ain't
Speaker 1: given up. You need a rushing the question, you need
Speaker 1: a former rushing champ to win a Super Bowl. He
Speaker 1: ain't given up two hundred four thousand dollars a week
Speaker 1: to miss games. I will, Micky, I that ain't happening.
Speaker 1: I think you're two hundred and twenty four thousand a week.
Speaker 1: Jerry's calling his bluff. Jerry's gonna call this bluff. I
Speaker 1: just think they need they need to slide. And maybe
Speaker 1: it's too late to slide on the radar because it's
Speaker 1: it's out there now, all the hype is out there.
Speaker 1: But you know what, there's a lot of good teams
Speaker 1: in this conference. The Rams aren't going anywhere, The Saints
Speaker 1: aren't be where, the Bears, the Eagles, and how long
Speaker 1: has it been since a day NFC East team has
Speaker 1: repeated as a division champion. Philly like fifteen thousand and
Speaker 1: four Andy Reid team or in a row. That's right,
Speaker 1: I mean. And by the way, no one has won
Speaker 1: it more than two of the last three years, which
Speaker 1: they've done, right, But fire the coach. Even if he
Speaker 1: wins a division title, he wins three out of four.
Speaker 1: I was looking at that. Okay, that's okay, that's okay, right,
Speaker 1: fire the coach. I appreciate you. Nobody else in the
Speaker 1: in the in the division has done it. I appreciate
Speaker 1: your passion. Well, it looks like that shot clock has
Speaker 1: got us again. Yeah what shot clock got me? What?
Speaker 1: I didn't hear you? Yeah? All right? That does it
Speaker 1: for another edition of Talking Cowboys. I believe right, Kayden Gay,
Speaker 1: all right, so we will talk at you again tomorrow.
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