WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Frozen Dead Guy

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chuck and Jerry's here sitting in for Dave pretending

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<v Speaker 1>like she did. She does that a lot, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is short stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Frozen body, that's right exactly. There is no way we

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<v Speaker 1>could do this without that, so thank you for clearing

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<v Speaker 1>it up right out of the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we've talked about this festival at some

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<v Speaker 2>point on maybe it was one of our videos or something.

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<v Speaker 1>We did an episode on Strange Festivals. I'm sure we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned this, but I don't remember the story behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I made the same frozen body joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it, you can't not. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the town motto.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about a frozen body of a man

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<v Speaker 1>who in life was called Brado Morstole m r ste

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<v Speaker 1>L and he was from Norway, and when nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>nine rolled around, he was a ripe eighty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd been living in Norway outside of Oslo for basically

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<v Speaker 1>his whole life, and his life had been kind of unremarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently he designed city parks, which is a pretty cool job,

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<v Speaker 1>but like he hadn't set the world on fire, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really think he cared about that from what

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, although I don't personally know because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know him, but suffice to say that when he died

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<v Speaker 1>in Norway in nineteen eighty nine, it did not make

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<v Speaker 1>international news. How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? He had a grandson, and I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>how to pronounce this trick V. I'm not big on

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<v Speaker 2>my Norwegian.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really trick v okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was really into cryonics in preserving bodies. And

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<v Speaker 2>this was in nineteen eighty nine when that wasn't and

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<v Speaker 2>it's still not the most common thing, but it's certainly

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<v Speaker 2>gained a lot more popularity sure in recent years. But

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<v Speaker 2>in eighty nine he was he was kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a groundbreaking guy to try to do something like this

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<v Speaker 2>on his own, and that is, try to do this

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<v Speaker 2>on his own and say, hey, granddad, I think we

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<v Speaker 2>want to preserve you and so so I am going

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<v Speaker 2>to build a chryonic facility myself. Eventually, I'd like it

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<v Speaker 2>to be a business, but at least want to get

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<v Speaker 2>you going because the clock is ticking.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And his grandfather didn't respond because he was dead,

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<v Speaker 1>but trig Vy went ahead with the plans anyway. He

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<v Speaker 1>had Bredo shipped from Oslo to Oakland. That you know,

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<v Speaker 1>typical route that a dead body follows after you expire.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason he ended up in Oakland, California is

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<v Speaker 1>because there was an established cryonic facility there called trans Time,

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<v Speaker 1>and for three years that's where Brado's first final resting

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<v Speaker 1>place was. He was immersed in liquid nitrogen and kept

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<v Speaker 1>in an extraordinarily cold temperature to preserve him. Because that's

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<v Speaker 1>the point. I mean, we did a whole cryonics episode

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken, but this is a brief refresher.

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<v Speaker 1>The point of cryonics is to preserve the living tissue

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<v Speaker 1>to the degree that if we ever figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>to reanimate dead people, you will be intact when they

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<v Speaker 1>revive you. These doctors of the future. That's the key,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's that's what trig v wanted to do with

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<v Speaker 1>his grandfather Brado.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if you look up one of these facilities today,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll say, great, you want just the head or the

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<v Speaker 2>whole body?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So which is speaking of met Granning. That's also sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a Futurama.

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<v Speaker 1>Reference totally like Nixon.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And as a reminder, I saw a head

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<v Speaker 2>in the bucket once. People are talking about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Still, that is so crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So over the course of a few years he got

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<v Speaker 2>the help of his mom Oud and said, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm building this thing out in Colorado, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 2>a place called Nederland. And it was a legal thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do at first, but then he applied for a

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<v Speaker 2>permit and they said, nah, you can't do that, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, well, I'm just going to keep doing it

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<v Speaker 2>anyway illegally. And in nineteen ninety three, so this is

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<v Speaker 2>four ish years after his granddad had died, they said,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I think we're okay. We can move him

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<v Speaker 2>from Oakland into our own sort of home setup in Nederland, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a decided step down for Braido. We went

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<v Speaker 1>from the high life immersed in liquid nitrogen to a

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<v Speaker 1>makeshift wooden freezer surrounded by foam, rubber and dry ice blocks.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently it worked. It was good enough for Trigg

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<v Speaker 1>V and Odd his mom, and so that's where Brado

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<v Speaker 1>set up. Starting in ninety three, they also decided that

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to build a structure that could not

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<v Speaker 1>only keep a cryonic body indefinitely, the structure itself would

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<v Speaker 1>survive and definitely, So they build a concrete structure. They

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<v Speaker 1>build it out with studs, and then they stopped there.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the reasons they stopped was because suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff came to the attention of the

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<v Speaker 1>outside authorities. And I say, we take a break on

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<v Speaker 1>that and come back and tell the rest of this crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>crazy story. So in nineteen ninety three, Tigby's in his

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<v Speaker 1>new house in a wooden structure out back. Apparently he

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<v Speaker 1>was in a blue RII sleeping bag, zipped up, surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>by foam, foam, rubber, all that, and then outside of

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<v Speaker 1>all that were the bricks of dry ice, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess Trigvy for future handiness labeled which end of the

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping bag was the head, but was later found to

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten it wrong, which is kind of funny. And

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<v Speaker 1>they kept it at I think a negative one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and ten degrees celsius, which is pretty pretty cold, but

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<v Speaker 1>from what I read, still inadequate for cryonics. But they

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<v Speaker 1>kept him that way anyway, and every two weeks they

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<v Speaker 1>would have to put new dry ice blocks around him,

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<v Speaker 1>and they kept doing that and we're planning on doing

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<v Speaker 1>that indefinitely. And about that time immigration officials sipped into

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<v Speaker 1>this whole phray.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's kind of the irony of this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing is they were, I guess from the naked

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<v Speaker 2>eye what they thought were preserving him, but they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>preserving him good enough to ever bring him back to life,

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<v Speaker 2>if that were to ever be a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my understanding of it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So Immigration said, I'm sorry, your visa has run out.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to leave the country. So trigg Vy left

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety four and said, Mom, you gotta take

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<v Speaker 2>care of your dad there. I'm leaving. He got to

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<v Speaker 2>switch this dry dry ice out every two weeks and

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<v Speaker 2>keep that temperature down. And mom was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I got it. And the news got out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>This is you know, needle In wasn't the biggest place.

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<v Speaker 2>It probably still isn't the biggest town. And get the

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<v Speaker 2>feeling that trigg Vy was sort of an eccentric there,

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<v Speaker 2>ye did.

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<v Speaker 1>The local polar bear plunge tradition.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, that's fun. So when he got deported, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there were interviews being done by the local alternative weekly

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<v Speaker 2>and they got in touch with Mom. During this interview,

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<v Speaker 2>she I get the feeling sort of accidentally set out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>like I wonder what's going to happen with Dad's remains now.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the word was out that there was a

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<v Speaker 2>frozen dead guy in the town, and eventually that would

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<v Speaker 2>become a festival called Frozen Dead Guy Days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because very quickly this story got out of Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>and went around the world, and Nederland decided, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>could capitalize on this, like, yes, this is a really

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<v Speaker 1>weird story, and people think were weirdos for having a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who had his dead grandfather frozen out back, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's do something with that. And the Chamber of Commerce

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<v Speaker 1>came up with Frozen Dead Guy Days starting in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and two, which is, you know, definitely making lemonade

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<v Speaker 1>out of lemons, I guess you could say. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the meantime there was still the matter of what to

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<v Speaker 1>do with Braido. Right after it was found out that

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<v Speaker 1>Brado was out back, and not only Brado, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Triggvy had gotten his first paying customer. So Brado and

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Al Campbell shared that makeshift freezer for

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<v Speaker 1>a little while, but the Netherlands town council said, we actually,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've got something on the books right, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is illegal. What they hadn't factored in him is that

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<v Speaker 1>Triggvy was a died in the wool libertarian, the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy who would raised holy heck for arbitrary you know,

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<v Speaker 1>movements or decisions by the government, and he forced that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not very clear what the town's position on

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<v Speaker 1>keeping a frozen dead body of a relative out back

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<v Speaker 1>in your house was, and so Brado got grandfathered in,

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<v Speaker 1>even after the town passed a new ordnance saying like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that anymore, No pun intended.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh grandfathered in. Yeah, it really wasn't, is the sad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's there still, he's allowed to stay, and so

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden he needs a little help taking

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<v Speaker 2>care of grandpa. He puts out an ad and says,

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<v Speaker 2>I need someone to help me take care. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to like change out this dry ice, check on him,

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing. And a guy named Bo Schaffer said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it and so for and not only will

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<v Speaker 2>I do it, he did it for thirty years. He

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<v Speaker 2>looked over this guy that wasn't even his grandpa bringing

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<v Speaker 2>in that fresh dry ice, packing him every two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>making sure he was okay and checking in on him,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's pretty remarkable. Eventually that shed needed

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<v Speaker 2>some work because of a blizzard, and the local rock

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<v Speaker 2>radio station got involved, and of course, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>local rock radio does, they find some kind of weird

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<v Speaker 2>thing to get behind for some press, and they ended

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<v Speaker 2>up getting Tough Sheds, the company, which is great, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, big fan of Tough Sheds. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got one. They're awesome, And they're awesome because they

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<v Speaker 2>donated this shed free of charge. Also good press for them,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the radio station painted their you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their logo and stuff on the side of it. So

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<v Speaker 2>now this guy wait wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, not just what their logo was, they you have

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<v Speaker 1>to say the words that they also painted on this structure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that was their thing. They were classic rock.

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<v Speaker 1>They painted classic rock on the shed that held Breido's

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<v Speaker 1>frozen corpse.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they had to take advantage of it. So

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<v Speaker 2>from that point on, it was, you know, not much

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<v Speaker 2>of a story. I mean, they had their frozen dead

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<v Speaker 2>guys festival. Bredo was still there and in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine because of COVID, the town Chamber of Commerce

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<v Speaker 2>went bankrupt. The town kind of fell on harder times,

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<v Speaker 2>and they sold the rights to that festival to a

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<v Speaker 2>private entity. And everyone was like, this thing stinks now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not the same as it used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it got moved to ST's Park, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>little ways away, lost the edginess of it, It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>rough around the edges anymore, and it lost its spirit

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<v Speaker 1>according to the people who liked the original version. That

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<v Speaker 1>was one thing that changed. Another thing that changed around

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<v Speaker 1>that time is that Trickby started looking for a third

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<v Speaker 1>final resting place for his grandfather Braido, And in August

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty three, the town of Nederland found out

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<v Speaker 1>that their famous Frozen Dead Guy Brado had been moved

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<v Speaker 1>to SD's Park. Like Frozen Dead Guide Dates had been

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<v Speaker 1>to the Stanley Hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>That Stanley Hotel, the same one that inspired the Shining

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<v Speaker 2>when Stephen King and his family vacation there. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you ever hear anyone say you know what the Stanley

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<v Speaker 2>Hotel is known for, right, just kind of throw them

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<v Speaker 2>off base and say, yeah, they have a cryonics museum

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<v Speaker 2>and a frozen dead Grandpa.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where Brado is. He's in an exhibit sponsored

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<v Speaker 1>by alcre one of the leading cryonics companies, and who

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<v Speaker 1>knows where his next final resting place will be, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you can find him. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope this is it, but I have a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>it won't be.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, not in an exhibit at the Stanley Hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna end up somewhere else, and I for one

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see where it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if we should raise some money and see

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<v Speaker 2>if we can take custody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like KRFX one oh three point five, the Fox.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we wait end. That's how we'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna paint classic rock and sysk on whatever we

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<v Speaker 1>built for him too. I love it, well, Chuck said,

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. And you can't really end on a

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<v Speaker 1>better note than that. So short stuff is apt.

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