1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Advice Shore. Welcome to them naughty but nice show. I'm 2 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: your host, Rob Shooters, joined every Monday by our dear 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: friend Garrett Vogel from C one hundred. Hey Garrett, are 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: you there? Hello friend, Good to see you. It is 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: today like the day after the super Bowl for you, 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: because it was such a huge explosive day both in 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: in London and in the US and I or England. 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: How do you feel? It's really thank you for the question. 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: That's mechan would say, it's a really, really kind of 10 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: bizarre day for me. My head is spinning. Obviously. We're 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: talking about the big Oprah interview that aired last night. 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: I've been up since like three or four o'clock doing 13 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: British TV their five Hours Ahead all day long. I'm 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: all over TV talking about it. But we definitely wanted 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: to do as this is the priority. So let's get 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: in with all the gossip. Hey, Garretts, what time is it? 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: My friend? It's it's going to be an explosive details. 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: It's British tea today, English tea. So let's go over 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: some of the big, big moments in this interview. It 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: was explosive when Oprah said nothing was off limits. My goodness, 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: she meant it. In all the years I've been a 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: celebrity reporter, columnist, I was also a publicist for a while, 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: I've never seen an interview like this two hours, Garrett, 24 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. What do you think interesting? Well, 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: you know what? And I think as a celebrity, a 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know depending on the level of celebrity, 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: and people say, hey, here are the questions that are 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: awful limits, Like you know, if it was to be 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez when she was dating Ben Affleck or did 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: he like, don't ask about all have stuff? And if 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: they do mention it, it's very brief. So if you're 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: interview in jen now you might talk about benefit, you might, 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: but if you one quick, quick question. So for Oprah 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: to do this, this is huge. But Megan did it too. 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Like Megan was comfortable sitting there answering these questions, and 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: she came with the list of bombshells. Let's do the 37 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: first one. They were secretly married, Garrett, three days before 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: that wedding that two billion people watched, and our good selves, Garrett, 39 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, we were part of the three days 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: before the wedding. They called up the archbishop. Well that's nice, 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: they've got his number. But they called him up and 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: he came over to their garden and he married them 43 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: in the backyard. And Megan said, nobody knows this, and 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: she actually went on to call the wedding a spectacle 45 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: for the world. I think a lot of people that 46 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: have been married, including ourselves, Garrett, these things can get 47 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: out of hand. So even though we didn't have a wedding, 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I do sort of understand this, do you. Yeah, no, 49 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: we're because I think all couples, even if you're listening 50 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: right now, can all agree if you've ever been married before, 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: after the wedding you go they just should have wanted 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: to Vegas and you know, two people and just called 53 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: it a day because it is stressful. So I can 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: only imagine with the world on your shoulders and you're 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: trying to have a wedding with the love of your life. 56 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: I can't wrap my mind, I can't map my mouth. 57 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: So I think that's actually rather a sweet thing. I 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: like that they've just tied the knot together. Just the 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: Archbishop of Canterbury. That's fancy, and the two of them, 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: and when they say the backyard. It's not you and 61 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: me next to the trash cannon trampoline and this is 62 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: the next lotor recycling that this is a lovely backyard sower. 63 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: That's a nice, nice little story, she told me. It 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: really warmed my heart. Another story, Can I ask you 65 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: a question about about the archbisops Bishop. See, so I've 66 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: been watching all these shows on TV now, like right now, 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: I'm watching rain about Mary, Queen of Scots. And how 68 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: does the arch archbishop bishop not open his mouth and say, hey, 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: you know what I did a few days ago. Because 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: he reports to the biggest boss of all, so he's 71 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: not messing about with him upstairs. Let's move along, because 72 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: this one is the most shocking for me, the most 73 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: shocking revelation. They said. They both confirmed that there were 74 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: conversations about arches skin color. This is shocking. Oprah couldn't 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: believe what was being said. But Megan did say there 76 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: was concerns and conversations about how dark arches skin would 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: be when he was born. Harry confirmed this. So Harry 78 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: confirmed it. And Harry said he would not go into 79 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: details about this conversation, but it was horrific and for 80 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: him to say, you know it is true, like you 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, he didn't like you just say 82 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, it was no big deal. I 83 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: guess at the end of the day, and he would 84 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: know like when it comes to your child, you you're 85 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: going to tell the truth. You're not going to throw 86 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: your child under the bus and lie about your child 87 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: just to further your own agenda. You're you're you're going 88 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: to speak the truth. And for him to speak on 89 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: his child's behalf, it does say a lot. Does say 90 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: a lot? This is actually a pole question of the day. 91 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: You can go to our Twitter page at Naughty Nice 92 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: rather our Facebook page Naughty Gossip. Who do you think 93 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: had these conversations? So we don't know, it's speculation, but 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: this is what the buzz of England is today, the 95 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: buzz of the world. It's all over Twitter. Do you 96 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: think it was Prince Charles? So? Do you think it 97 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: was the Queen? Don't answer it, Garrett, So we can 98 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: let people go and vote. But who do you think 99 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: had these conversations? Harry said that it would be very 100 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: damaging to reveal, obviously who voiced these concerns, but I 101 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: do believe them that two of them did say that 102 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: these conversations happened. Now, this was another absolute bombshell. There 103 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: were reports out there, Garrett that Megan made Kate Kate 104 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: Middleton cry just before the wedding. Oprah asked her about 105 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: these reports, and although Megan said she doesn't read everything, 106 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: which I'm not quite sure, I believe she was aware 107 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: about the Kate allegations and she said the opposite occurred. 108 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: Kate made Megan cry and it was about the flower 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: girls and the wedding, and it hurt her feelings. Kate 110 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: sent flowers and an apology, and Megan said, I forgive 111 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: her all right. Well, but it also goes to show 112 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: why they got married quietly in the garden, in the backyard, 113 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, for this reason right here, 114 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: for the little petty things about a flower girl that 115 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: just threw whatever side into a into a tizzy. They 116 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: already got married. So this is like just icing on 117 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: top at the end of the day, you know what 118 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean. So it just goes to further show why 119 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: they did it just for them before they did for everyone. 120 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: I think here a lot of people are thinking that 121 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: Megan threw Cayton to the bus and she didn't need 122 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: to bring this up, I should say here Oprah brought 123 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: it up, and also to seeing that Megan that was 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: not telling this story to be petty, but she wanted 125 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: the record set straight. The whole interviews for me was 126 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: Megan being frustrated that she had lost her voice, that 127 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: she wasn't speaking, that she was a Hollywood person who's 128 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: used to fight him back if she saw something in 129 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: the press she didn't like. Her publicist would would she 130 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: was stay meant she was told by the palace to 131 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: not do that. So it must have been really frustrating garage. 132 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: Do you know what it's like in a workplace when 133 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: somebody says something and somebody says something else, and then 134 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: their story is believed and it's not true. Oh yeah, 135 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: it's a it's a very ugly game of telephone and 136 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: there's there really is no way of stopping, and especially 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: at the royal level. And you know what I found 138 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: found very intriguing about the day and placement of this interview. 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: You have Oprah probably the as we call her, the 140 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: Queen here in the States, and you have Megan and 141 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: and Harry and today of all days being International Women's Day, 142 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: where you have a strong woman saying I'm going to 143 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: take on the royal family and show what they were 144 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: doing to my family, meaning you know, her son and 145 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: and and Harry and so. I just found it so 146 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: interesting that they decided today, of all days, to play 147 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: this interview and and put it forward on international lines. 148 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: I think the numbers are gonna be huge. We don't 149 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: have the numbers yet. Do you know who holds the 150 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: good for the number one rated interview on TV of 151 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: all time? Oprah Winfrey. She sat down with Michael Jackson 152 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: in I believe ninety million people, mind zero, that's like 153 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And I then this is going to 154 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: be that big. But it's big. I was about to 155 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: say you when you were on Extra not Unfortunately my 156 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: mother watched, you watched, it wasn't ninety billion. Moving along, 157 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: this was another bombshell. This, this interview, these two hours, 158 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: every minute, it was a bombshell. Normally, as a reporter, 159 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: I can come away from an interview I've watched and 160 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: tell you what, the two headlines are pretty easy. This 161 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: I've thought a Kate was going to be the headline. 162 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: I said, oh gosh, that's a big story. Then then 163 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: another story happened, and another one's happened. So Megan said 164 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: she had suicidal thoughts while she was pregnant with Archie. 165 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: It got so bad she went to the institution that 166 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: means the Palace and she asked for help. She was 167 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: asking for mental health care and they basically told her 168 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: to shut up. And at one point Harry was cradling her, 169 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: and she really had serious suicidal thoughts where she wants 170 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: to check into a facility. She felt like she needed 171 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: help and they didn't help her. Garrett, So does does 172 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: this line up with because remember when when this whole 173 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: process of leaving the family started, Harry said, I needed 174 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: to do this for our own good, you know what 175 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: I mean. So it kind of again is lining up 176 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: with the timeline of the past what two years almost 177 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: of them exiting because of this right here, of what 178 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Megan you know, told us last night, and it's it's shocking, 179 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: but it also makes sense of why they laugh absolutely. 180 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: Now when I look back at all this, it does 181 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: start to add up. They said it wasn't an immediate 182 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't an immediate split, and it brings us to 183 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: our next resor revel and it brings us to our 184 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: next revelation. The couple said the exit was not a 185 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: blind side for the Queen or anybody. They had been 186 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: talking about this four months, if not years. They felt 187 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: trapped and any notions that Megan plotted to get Harry 188 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: away from his family, Harry is that that is not true. Quote. 189 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: I was trapped, but I didn't know I was trapped, 190 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: trapped within a system like the rest of my family. 191 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: So he argues, Prince Charles is trapped, his brother's trapped 192 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: and he got out. Wow. Yeah, the not the easiest way, 193 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: but the quickest way, because again we know the hierarchy 194 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: of everything here. So Harry had the easiest way to 195 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: get out without the biggest Imagine if if william decided, 196 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: Imagine if Williams said, I'm you know what I'm leaving, 197 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, that would probably be even more chaos than 198 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: what we're sitting through. Yeah, it's explosive. And Oprah said, 199 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: I thought this was such a good point. You're a prince, 200 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: You're literally a prince. You live in a palace. What 201 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: are you trapped in? Like, isn't this the lap of luxury? 202 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: But but I think and we hear this all the time. 203 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: To bring it down to the celebrity level, you know, 204 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: just you look at Justin Bieber and what he has 205 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: gone through with the He has written a song about 206 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: about how lonely he is, where you have everything in 207 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: the world, but you have really no one to share 208 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: it with, you know, And he did have Harry does 209 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: have Megan, and Megan has Harry. But outside of that, 210 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: they don't have their friends. They can't call up you know, 211 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: their their their bff and say, hey, come on over 212 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: to the palace without having to go through nine thousand 213 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: forms of security. So I understand that, and not just 214 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: security permission. Megan at one point in the interview said 215 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: she she was alone. She was terribly lonely in the palace, 216 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: and she asked, can I go and have lunch with 217 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: my friends? And they said, no, you're overexposed and you 218 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: can't do this. What came across to me overall with 219 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: this interview is the bureaucracy, not the Queen or Charles, 220 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: not the not the family faces we know, but almost 221 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: the men in suits behind the scenes, the people running 222 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 1: the organization. And she said they were not helpful for her, 223 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: and she thought joining a big company. Let's think about 224 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: this in our art terms. When you join a job. 225 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: You get a little manual, you're taught, you taught how 226 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: to do the job. Nobody was there to help her, 227 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: like where the bathrooms are just in case you need 228 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: to go, Like I'm sure they didn't even shore where 229 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: the bathrooms, wrote my heart in many many ways moving 230 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: along side this is explosive and not keep using that word, 231 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: but I don't know another word. Prince Charles stopped taking 232 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Harry's calls, so Harry told Oprah that at one point 233 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: he took manage into his own hands and that's when 234 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: his dad's Prince Charles started to ignore him. He said 235 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: the relationship with his father is still tricky. His father 236 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: is now taking the calls, but they clearly have a 237 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: lot to work through. Well, even before the hearing about 238 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: this last night, Rob wasn't their relationship but always because 239 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: we saw Harry and William, you know, with with mom 240 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: when she was around, then with with dad. He really 241 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: never saw them a lot together, right, I mean it 242 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: was a troubled relationship. I have that sort of relationship, 243 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: not not to this ext but with my dad. I 244 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: talked to my mom all the time and it feels 245 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: very natural, and I love my dad, but we're not 246 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: very close, and recently we've tried. We've both made a 247 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: real effort and we talked now every Sunday and it's 248 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: really helped. But my dad's never not taken my call. 249 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: I can't imagine calling him or his office and not 250 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: getting it returned. Does the King have a secretary? Like? 251 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: How does it work now? Like do they have phones 252 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: or do you have to go through a messenger? Like 253 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: you have to go through a switchboard? I bet she's 254 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: old school, but a bit. Charles has a phone and iPhone, Like, no, 255 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: the president of the United States has an iPhone and 256 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: then you know he could have an iPhone now you 257 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: you you would think, But I mean it's just so interesting, 258 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: like because we all know how phones work, so obviously 259 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: his name comes up on the phone and for him 260 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: just to hit block, Like what kind of guy is? 261 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: What would you put him under in your phone? Dad? 262 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I don't know you have to put king? I don't 263 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: know what you put it? Katie, Katie crazy. They're also 264 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: done having children. They revealed that they're having a girl. 265 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: They're super excited about this and their daughter is going 266 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: to be born this summer. Talking about relationships too, he 267 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: did speak about William, and he said, it's complicated, but this, 268 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: this is lovely. He said, he talks with his granny 269 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: the Queen more than ever, and he's spoken to his 270 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: grandmother more in the last year than he has done 271 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: in many, many, many many years. I like that they're 272 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: so close, and he said the following quote. I love 273 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: William Tibits is my brother. We've been through hell together 274 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: talking about Princess Diana's death, their mommy, but we're on 275 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: different paths. This interview can this interview is not gonna 276 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: out again. It's it's beyond complicated that where you and 277 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: I can never probably start to understand where it's at. 278 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, just think about the the petty things in 279 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: your life with your family that you have trouble with. Now, 280 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: imagine it in on the on the royal plateau of 281 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: ing and a prince, where you know one is about 282 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: to take over the kingdom and another is just waiting 283 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: in order for him to be I get it. I 284 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: get it, of course. I mean I could never imagine 285 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: a family member, my older brother, you know, having to 286 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: pass away in order for me to get my get 287 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: my job. It's all the whole system set up. Do 288 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: you think outside of the system in the hierarchy, do 289 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: you think things are a little old school, you know 290 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like just the way that the castle 291 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: is run, where it's not as modern day, you know, 292 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: as it should be. You know, the simple things like 293 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: having to go through people to talk to people like 294 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: she's my grandmother to the queen, like can I pick 295 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: up the phone? They've got to rethink this whole system. 296 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: And I know it's thousands of years old and there's 297 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: a lot of protocol, but I think in any company here, 298 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: let's think of them not as a family for a minute, 299 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: but as a business, which they are as well. I 300 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: think they've got to get somebody into reorganize this business 301 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: because if this amount of pain is going on behind 302 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: palace walls, it cannot continue as an institution. Like we're 303 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: very lucky, Kate and William seemed to have figured out 304 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: a way, but it's not healthy what's going on here. 305 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: And we've all got friends or maybe ourselves who have 306 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: worked at unhealthy companies. We've all done it toxic places. 307 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: This place feels so toxic, Garrett, We're going to take 308 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: a quick break and we're gonna come back instead of 309 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: our nicest then and Naughtiest of the day. We're going 310 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: to do the one regret, Megan's one regret. It's really 311 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: really shocking. We will be I need a break anyway, 312 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: I need a break so much stuff. Hey, welcome back 313 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: to then Naughty but nic Sha. I'm not sure that 314 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: with our friend Garrett Vogel. The whole episode today has 315 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: been about the rules. I'm exhausted, Garrett. I'm I'm still 316 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: recovering from the first break. I've never seen an interview 317 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: like this in all my days. I've never ever seen 318 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: an interview like this. You know, before we get into 319 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: the regrets that you were talking and about that uh 320 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: from Megan. Do you think how true is it like 321 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: for the Palace to say the Queen and the family 322 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: were not even going to watch it, Like you gotta think, 323 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: as we know, they want to know what's up, and 324 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: they're not going to read through the press because they 325 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: know the press is going to spin it anyway possible. 326 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: You know, they've had to have watched clips or someone's 327 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: job house wants to secretarists their publicists. In the morning, 328 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: we'll bring in with the cream. Makes up quite early 329 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: and she gets the London Times and the Guardian and 330 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: maybe some of the tabloids too, to see what's going 331 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: on in the post. Don't forget the post. She always 332 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: and she will. She's a naughty gossip right dow High 333 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: Queen website. She gets briefings every morning in a little 334 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: red box, so there's a summary. Maybe she should just 335 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast because we basically summarized everything you 336 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: needed to know. I would hate to be the person 337 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: to summarize his last Like you're holding a tray of 338 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, breakfast, maybe some Goldian waffles and English muffins 339 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: with with with with butter, and you're going, They're going, 340 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell her this. I can't tell 341 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: her this. Okay, I'll tell her this, Okay, ll skip 342 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: over this suicide. Oh my god, I cut the baby skin. 343 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: I had to read Jenny for Lopez once the reviews 344 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: for Gelie the worst movie ever made, and she called me, 345 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: I worked for Jenny, how did you handle it? I 346 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: summarized them. So when I got to the New York 347 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: Times review, which was brutal, I said, Chen, you know what, 348 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: you're in a bit of a rush. Let me just 349 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: summarize it. And I was like, oh, it's it's not 350 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: so positive. It's a mixed stud set out right. It 351 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: was hard, it wasn't easy exactly. Okay, let's move along. 352 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: Megan and Harry were asked by Oprah it' so it 353 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: was a great way to end an interview. We should 354 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: end the podcast like this. Every day, what do you 355 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: have any regrets? What's what's your regret? And Harry, which 356 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: most people say your your default setting is to say no, no, 357 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: don't have any regrets. So when you ask people like 358 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: even the housewives, like when trees are got out of jail, 359 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 1: do you have any regrets? No, no doubt you do 360 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: have regrets. It's okay to have your ine. You went 361 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: to jail, you stole money from people. So Harry has 362 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: no regrets. But Megan thought about it and she said, 363 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: I do have one regret. My regret is believing them 364 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: when they said they would protect me. Drop them, Mike. 365 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: So she thought the palace would protect her. She could 366 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: be reading stuff about herself and she thought, don't worry 367 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: about it, they'll protect me. At one point in the interview, 368 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: Garrett her friends were still calling her in London. She 369 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: was very isolated and they were saying, Meg, I can't 370 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: believe this is being said. That's not true. They're saying this. 371 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: Everything that was happening with her dad was going on, 372 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: and Ned would report lie to her friends and say, 373 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: don't worry, they're protecting me. They're going to protect me. 374 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: And you know what, I've noticed this over the last 375 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: few weeks too, ever since they announced that they were 376 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: having their second child. Is Piers Morgan trying to get 377 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: back into the palace for some reason, Like the man 378 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: comes out of the woodwork and just starts throwing laser 379 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: beams at people. Do you know why he's angry? That exactly. 380 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: She was with him at the Soho house in London 381 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: before she met Harry, so she Piers would argue, used him. 382 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: So Megan slid into his direct messages before she was 383 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: with the Royals, and he was with her in London, 384 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: and get this, she was going to meet Harry. Afterwards, 385 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: he got her and uber, He paid for her uber 386 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: to go and meet the Prince. That she didn't tell him. 387 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: She was very, very, very very reserved about it. I 388 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: get that it was a secret hate. I'm I'm not 389 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: defending Piers Morgan, but I've heard this by several people. 390 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: The minute she was with Harry, she dumped all her friends. 391 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: So Pis was gone. I know at least two other 392 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: people that were quite close to her that she's just 393 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: stopped talking to him. Not good, but he just but 394 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: the way he was coming across is so bitter. It 395 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: just it's like, you please let me know. It's mean 396 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: now he's after her. Hey, Garett, thank you so much. 397 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: We ran out of time. We could keep going on this. 398 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: My big takeaway though, from from all vises. At the end, 399 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: she did say to Oprah her fairy tale had come true. 400 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: She met her prince, she lost her voice, she got 401 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: her voice back. She compared it to the Little Murmaid, 402 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: which I thought was really adorable. I hope that which 403 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: makes the Queen earlier. Oh, I just don't know what 404 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: the future is. Do you think the Palace will respond. 405 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this to my friends in London at 406 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: the moment. Should they ignore this or should they put 407 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: out a statement? I don't I think they will, but 408 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: they should spin it in the support of what I mean. 409 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: I wish exactly we're looking into those allegations that have 410 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: been brought up, you know, just as they're doing to 411 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: Megan investigations. I think this is all a mess. I 412 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: think I would tell them all it's it's over, that's it. Quietly, 413 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: I was thinking about this too, and I know we 414 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: gotta we gotta wrap up. But I think the only 415 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: way things are going to change is when William and 416 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: Kate are finally in charge. It's a few years away, though, 417 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: isn't it. We've got to get through Charles first. And 418 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't wish death on anybody. And that's really what 419 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: you were wishing in this family. That's why the system 420 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: is so set up. You haven't got to fail for 421 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: me to succeed, You've got to die. I mean that's 422 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: pretty extreme. Well, oh, I wish she would should mess 423 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: up and I can get that job. I don't wish 424 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: death on her or him. It's crazy. Hey, Garrett, thank 425 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us and going through all 426 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: these details, and thank you for listening to the naught 427 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: even Nice with Robin Garrett Show, a production of I 428 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Don't forget to subscribe on the I Heart 429 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: Radio app Apple podcast wherever you listen, leave us a 430 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: review and all together, and now remember, if you're going 431 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: to be not to be naughty, to be to be nice. 432 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: I hope you're listening. Queen Elizabeth, we've got to be nice, 433 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: take care, everybody to die. It's not even nice with 434 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: Bro