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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Did a scorned hairstylist hire a hit man on Tender

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Speaker 2: of all places to brutally assassinate her ex boyfriend and,

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Speaker 2: wait for it.

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Speaker 1: His teen daughter?

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Speaker 2: This according to cops. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: A New Jersey woman is accused of attempting to hire

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Speaker 3: a hitman off popular dating app Tender.

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Speaker 1: Could this be?

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Speaker 2: Did the scorned hairstylist want revenge so badly she wanted

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Speaker 2: to assassinate her ex boyfriend and his teen daughter? How

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Speaker 2: did the teen daughter get roped into this? You know,

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Speaker 2: I've got an all star panel to make sense of

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Speaker 2: what we know right now. But joining me in addition

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Speaker 2: to an all star panel is a very special guest.

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Speaker 2: This is a man, a former husband, a father, who

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Speaker 2: endured a hit shot nine times when his ex wife

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Speaker 2: wanted to gain control of money that was meant to

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Speaker 2: raise their son. Joining me, Baron Lee, shot nine times,

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Speaker 2: all ordered by your wife. Now, I've always been amazed, Baron.

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Speaker 2: If I may call you that, I feel.

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Speaker 1: Like I know you. We've discussed your case.

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Speaker 2: I've talked to you and thought about you so many

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Speaker 2: times since the incident. What went through your mind as

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Speaker 2: you were lying there?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you can.

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Speaker 2: Process all of the facts that here you were just

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Speaker 2: out in the parking lot, minding your own business. And

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Speaker 2: why you, of all people, why were you assailed by

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Speaker 2: unknown guys and shot nine times?

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Speaker 1: What went through your mind?

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Speaker 4: I realized diet at gaining moment, and then I was wondering,

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Speaker 4: you know who? Actually, at the time I knew who

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Speaker 4: who was ordering a hit on me. I just didn't

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Speaker 4: know who the shooter was at the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you were shot point blank. I will never

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Speaker 2: forget it. All in a bid by your ex wife

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Speaker 2: to gain control of that money set aside to help

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Speaker 2: raise your son. How has your son reacted to what

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Speaker 2: happened to you, Baron?

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Speaker 4: Well, my son's non mobile, nonverbal, so fortunately he doesn't

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Speaker 4: have a trauma to deal with like other kids would

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Speaker 4: have had to, so he has no idea what happened.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Thank goodness that this did not weigh

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Speaker 2: on his mind on top of everything else, and that

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Speaker 2: was a considerable amount of money to help raise him

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Speaker 2: to secure his future, which he is going to need.

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Speaker 1: Why did she do it? Baron?

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Speaker 4: H You know, I asked myself that every single day,

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Speaker 4: I just say appears to it is what comes down.

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Speaker 1: To guys, A guy that lived through a similar hit.

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Speaker 1: But to the.

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Speaker 2: Case in chief, baron, don't move. I want your take

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Speaker 2: on this. First of all, take a listen. They were

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Speaker 2: together for approximately a year and there was clearly problems

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Speaker 2: in the relationship.

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Speaker 5: During the detention here in Camden County, Assistant Prosecutor David

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Speaker 5: Deets outlined a screenshot of a text message where Diorio

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Speaker 5: negotiates the price for the hit. Another text message has

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Speaker 5: the defendant discussing a prior attempt to hire someone to

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Speaker 5: kill her. Ex recorded conversation between Diorio and the informant

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Speaker 5: was also submitted.

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Speaker 2: That from our friends at CBS News three, joining me

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Speaker 2: as I said an all star panel straight out to

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Speaker 2: Rodrigo terrehone Crime and Course reporter at the Philly Inquirer, Rodriguo,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. How did this whole

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Speaker 2: thing start? It's my understanding that the would be killer

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Speaker 2: is a scorned hairstylist, and we heard Elliot the get

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Speaker 2: Go say there were problems in the relationship, but Rodrigue,

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Speaker 2: their problems in every relationship. My husband as I like

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Speaker 2: to say my current husband and I never had an

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Speaker 2: argument until we had the twins, and then we immediately

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Speaker 2: started arguing about how they would be raised. Practically every decision,

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Speaker 2: what time to go to bed, how many bottles would

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Speaker 1: The bottle? You name it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, and that goes on today. That's our sole source

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Speaker 2: of argument, what is best.

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Speaker 1: For our children. So, yes, every relationship has ups and downs, but.

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Speaker 6: Really, prosecutors say that the relationship, like the Comic County

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Speaker 6: prosecutor mentioned earlier, between Jacqueline the Orio and Officer o'hanlan,

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Speaker 6: started around a year ago and quickly turned pretty volatile.

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Speaker 6: You know, there was a few months that seemed like

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Speaker 6: the relationship was going and around August there was an

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Speaker 6: the officer reported that his house was damaged by a

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Speaker 6: Molotov cocktail that was thrown at it. There has not

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Speaker 6: been any sort of clear link between the extra sold on.

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Speaker 2: Just a second, Tetahan, you're putting the cart before the horse.

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Speaker 2: I got to get into it, Okay, I know about

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Speaker 2: the Molotov I know about the beginning of the relationship,

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Speaker 2: but what I don't know about is the intricacies of

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Speaker 2: that relationship.

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Speaker 1: What went wrong? Why did they break up? Why couldn't

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Speaker 1: she just move on?

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Speaker 2: As my grandmother said, meant no offense to you, of course, Rodrigo,

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Speaker 2: that men are like buses. Anyone will come along every

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. So why does she fixate so much on

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Speaker 2: the boyfriend to the extent she wanted him dead and

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Speaker 2: wanted his teen daughter dead too. Did that come about, Rodrigo?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's unclear. Still, like I said, there was

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Speaker 6: a few months where everything seemed to be going smoothly,

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Speaker 6: of volatility between them, some sort of intention to say

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Speaker 6: the least, and there was a restraining order filed by

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Speaker 6: the officer against the oreo, and the attorney for the

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Speaker 6: oreo later said that there was also a restraining order

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Speaker 7: Him that was later withdrawn.

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Speaker 2: So there's straight out to Greg Moores following up on

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Speaker 2: what Rodrigo Tara Han just said. Greg Moore's high profile

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Speaker 2: lawyer joining us a Morse legal currently.

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Speaker 1: Counsel to the SEI. A. Well, you've got.

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Speaker 2: Your hands full, Greg, dueling tros down'd you just love that?

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Speaker 2: And of course I'm being sarcastic when a real victim

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Speaker 2: comes into court for a temporary restraining order and what

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Speaker 2: is the other one.

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Speaker 1: To race back in to go? Uhh, I'm not a fault.

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Speaker 1: It's them all of this going on.

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Speaker 2: When I see dueling restraining orders, that's a bad sign.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to get any better, Greg Morse, Dueling.

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Speaker 7: Tros are a defense lawyer's dream. It means both people

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Speaker 7: are claiming to be victims, both people are claiming to

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Speaker 7: be the abuser. It shows a history of back and forth.

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Speaker 7: So this is a volatile relationship from both folks in

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Speaker 2: You know, my guess is they There is no evidence

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Speaker 2: that the victim was volatile.

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Speaker 1: The victim was a cop, by the way. But that said, he's.

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Speaker 2: Not the one that ordered a hit according to police,

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Speaker 2: he's not the one that went on Tender, a dating

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Speaker 2: site if you want to.

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Speaker 1: Call it that. That's a hookup site, that's what that is.

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Speaker 2: But that said, he didn't go on Tender and pretend

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Speaker 2: he was looking for.

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Speaker 1: A date and goes, oh, by the way, can you

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Speaker 1: meet me.

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Speaker 2: At wah Wah's Grocery so I can pay you to

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Speaker 2: shoot my ex. That wasn't him, that's her Moores, So

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Speaker 2: don't tune up. First thing, I ask you about tros

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Speaker 2: and you try to say it's the victim's fault.

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Speaker 1: Does it never end with you?

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Speaker 7: No, it's not that they're both victims. They both had tros,

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Speaker 7: and people withdraw them all the time because they get

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Speaker 7: back together and then they have them all to would

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Speaker 7: the victim?

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Speaker 2: Could you just explain what maybe you know? Let me

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Speaker 2: direct you to Webster's Dictionary. And I don't mean online,

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Speaker 2: you need the hard copy.

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Speaker 1: What do you think victim means? How is she a victim?

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Speaker 2: He goes to get a tro and she's like, race,

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Speaker 2: this is to the courthouse.

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Speaker 1: I'm first, I'm first judged. Call me first. How is

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Speaker 1: she the victim? He broke up with her.

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Speaker 2: And she could stand it in order to hint to

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Speaker 2: kill him.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a murder scene?

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Speaker 2: Have you smelled and coagulated blood? Because I have, and

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Speaker 2: I hope I never do again.

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Speaker 1: That's what she wanted.

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Speaker 7: I've been to quite a few and have gotten plenty

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Speaker 7: of not guilty. The murder cases we have in this case.

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Speaker 2: How you managed to merge a dead body with you

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Speaker 2: getting a not guilty. Excuse me, Jackie, could you toot

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Speaker 2: his horn for him? No, he's doing that himself.

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Speaker 1: You are asking you about how he's the thing she

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Speaker 1: wanted him dead on the ground with his team dead.

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Speaker 7: Nancy, you have a cl on their own for four days,

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Speaker 7: creating this story. Potentially the defense has something to work

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Speaker 7: with here. When have you ever heard of a CI

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Speaker 7: doing their own kind of case on Tinder and then

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Speaker 7: all of a sudden going to the police four days later.

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Speaker 7: That creates opportunities?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know I got a wonderful answer for you. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and her name as Dahlia Dippolito. Are you actually asking

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Speaker 2: me how does a CI confidential? You know, I'm not

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Speaker 2: impressed by you throwing around cop talk. Everybody that's watching

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Speaker 2: crime stories knows CI is a confidential informant. But thank

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Speaker 2: you for trying. Okay, Next, what are you going to

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Speaker 2: throw a Latin phrase at me that said.

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Speaker 7: You're looking at Are you usual.

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Speaker 2: For a CI to go online to traffic killer? Because

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Speaker 2: it's not is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 7: No, but it doesn't seem like from the police report

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Speaker 7: that the police were involved in this the first four days.

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Speaker 7: So what they have a meeting in a day?

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Speaker 1: God, they did get involved.

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Speaker 2: No, put your feet to the fire, Morse, because you

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Speaker 2: said what CI, which is an arm of LA law

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Speaker 2: enforcement goes online to traffic killer?

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Speaker 1: Who would do that? Hey? Listen to this? Do you

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Speaker 2: And there's a longer version two, which I will absolutely play. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Dahlia Dippolito hires a hitman to murder her husband, and

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Speaker 2: as in this case with the Molotov cocktail that Rodrigo

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Speaker 2: Tetahan was telling us about and prior attempts, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: her first try.

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Speaker 1: According to Ellie, she tried to poison her husband in

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Speaker 1: a Starbucks.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even going to mention that she was a hooker, okay,

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Speaker 2: because that's neither here nor there.

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Speaker 1: Before she got married and he took her away from

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Speaker 1: all that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, they stinger, Why did they stinger because they had

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Speaker 2: l E law enforcement as the would be assassin. Same

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Speaker 2: thing as here, and Morrise, you're acting like you've never

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Speaker 2: heard anything like it, Like it's a big entrapment to

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Speaker 2: John Pizzorro, former in New Jersey State Police investigator twenty

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Speaker 2: five years.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot going down in New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Homicide, organized crime, cartels, commander of the Internet, crimes against children,

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Speaker 2: It goes on and on. Currently, CEO of RAVEN focused

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Speaker 2: on eliminating child exploitation and trafficking.

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Speaker 1: John, you've certainly seen it all.

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Speaker 2: But did you happen to hear Greg Morris, who is

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Speaker 2: a veteran defense attorney, as he so timidly put forth,

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Speaker 2: I've won a lot of cases, he says, did you

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Speaker 2: hear him say how odd it is for elie law enforcement,

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Speaker 2: Will you priest a virgin? No, somebody that acts like

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we use them all the time. I mean informants.

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Speaker 3: Jacqueline Diorio is a twenty six year old New Jersey

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Speaker 1: We know these two love birds.

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Speaker 2: Met when the defendant, the suspect, the hairstylist, was actually

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Speaker 1: That's how they met. Let's see what more we know. Listen.

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Speaker 5: Jacqueline Diorio, twenty six, lives in run A Meede, New Jersey,

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Speaker 5: making her living as a barber. She hits it off

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Speaker 5: They began dating. Their relationship lasts just over a year,

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Speaker 5: but not without problems. Problems so bad that Diorio asked

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Speaker 5: at dating apps, specifically Tender. A match is made and

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Speaker 1: A wall wall.

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Speaker 5: They exchange numbers and communicate through text messages and phone calls.

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Speaker 2: Okay to you, John Pizzorro, former New Jersey State Police

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Speaker 1: But wah waws. That should have been a tip off

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Speaker 2: My sister and Philly used to live in a building

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Speaker 1: It was in grad towers at the Wharton School. There

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's not really a romantic setting for your

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Speaker 1: Was that a tip off? I mean, wahwas Well, it.

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Speaker 8: Is Tinder, Nancy, so I mean, you know, and there

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Speaker 2: Doctor Sherry Schwartz now joining us. She's been chomping at

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Speaker 2: where law and psychology Intersecty Schwartz, I mean, this could

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Speaker 2: be a total case study for you, because, for instance,

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Speaker 2: what led up, what fueled the hatred and this hairstylist

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Speaker 1: They're not even married.

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Speaker 2: They don't even have to divide property, they don't have

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Speaker 2: to fight over custody.

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Speaker 1: They don't have to decide who gets the pots.

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Speaker 2: And pans and who gets the crock pot, none of that.

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Speaker 2: But it's so contentious she wants him dead and not

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Speaker 2: just thinking, doctor Sherry, oh, I could just kill him,

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Speaker 2: not that actually going online, in hiring someone to commit

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Speaker 2: What is that, Doctor Sherry.

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Speaker 9: It's pure unadulterated hatred, fueled by the fact that it

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Speaker 9: seems like he broke up with her. The relationship was volatile,

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Speaker 9: he didn't want to have a relationship with her anymore,

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Speaker 7: Have you, nobody will.

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Speaker 9: I don't understand why his teenage daughter had to be

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Speaker 9: who has no regard for human life.

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Speaker 1: Guys. What happens?

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Speaker 2: They start up a romantic relationship, it goes sour, they

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Speaker 2: break up, She files for Tiroro and then almost immediately

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Speaker 1: What was that about? Was that a way to play

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Speaker 1: the system? But it progresses.

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Speaker 5: Listen During the Oreo's text conversation with her tender date,

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Speaker 5: she reveals she's not really looking for love, but rather

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Speaker 10: And imp who was working with a longer and say

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Speaker 10: they recently met a female wanted beating at Tinder. The

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Speaker 10: female and entered by herself to the informant as d Well,

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Speaker 10: which was later identified as the defendants tender name defend

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Speaker 10: The informant then met at a lawa and running Meat.

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Speaker 10: Subsequently defendant any informant exchange the numbrous text messages and

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Speaker 2: During these text.

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Speaker 10: Messages and phone call conversations, that's defendant and totally informant

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Speaker 10: that she wanted.

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Speaker 7: Her to ex boyfriend kill.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out when love turns into hate,

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Speaker 2: and when hate turns in to the desire for murder,

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Speaker 2: Now to Greg Morris joining me, who has won a

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Speaker 2: lot of cases. Is named partner at Morse Legal and

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Speaker 2: also current counsel to the CIA Greg and an attempt case,

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Speaker 2: an attempted murder or an attempted anything. There are very

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Speaker 2: often conspiracy charges. A conspiracy cannot be, as you and

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Speaker 2: I have argued in court many times, unless you have

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Speaker 2: I want to kill Greg Morris so bad.

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Speaker 1: How would I do it? What would I do?

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Speaker 2: That's just wishful thinking, that's daydreaming talking about it doesn't

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Speaker 2: ert act in order to.

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Speaker 1: Prove your case.

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Speaker 2: And here that overt act is going on tender, meeting

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Speaker 2: someone but still not enough, but then persuading him to

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Speaker 2: do a hit. There's your overt act right there. In

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Speaker 7: Well, there is an overt act there. However, again, those

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Speaker 7: first four days, when she's interacting with this guy on

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Speaker 7: tender and they're talking, that leaves a lot of room

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Speaker 7: be indicating. It's not something that and you know this

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Speaker 7: God becomes a CI after the four days, not before,

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Speaker 7: and that creates opportunity. You also can argue the five

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Speaker 2: You know, Greg Morris, when you say that leaves a

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Speaker 2: lot of wiggle room. Can we just get real about

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Speaker 2: what you're arguing. I believe trying to read the tea

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Speaker 2: argue that it was the informant's idea that we can

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Speaker 2: somehow claim entrapment.

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Speaker 1: In other words, she would never have.

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Speaker 2: That's what entrapment means. I would never have done this

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Speaker 2: except the cops planned it. They lured me in, and

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Speaker 2: now they're prosecuting me. I would never have done this

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Speaker 2: on my own. That is what entrapment is. Are you

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Speaker 2: trying to blame the CI the confidential informant?

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Speaker 7: Well, the defense has to do something in this case,

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Speaker 1: Little storing there. When you're trying to come up with the.

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Speaker 7: Argument, what listen, this is you have four days of

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Speaker 7: all accounts, Nancy, this guy was a civilian like you

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Speaker 7: and I for four dates. He packaged this and then

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Speaker 2: And you know, you got a little problem, Greg Morris,

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Speaker 2: the ointment. Here's the problem, Rodrigo Tetrahan. Isn't it true

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Speaker 2: that the defendant actually wrote texts to the CI that

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Speaker 2: She wrote texts.

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Speaker 1: They're clearly from her phone about the hit.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the prosecutors at the last hearing did read back

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Speaker 7: Proof.

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Speaker 6: She asked for proof because, in her own words, she

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Speaker 1: She gives me, I.

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Speaker 2: Just choked just a tiny bit white white. Hold on,

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Speaker 2: Can I see Greg Morris right now? As Rodrigo? Okay,

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Speaker 2: could you repeat that, Rodrigo? What you just said? She

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Prosecutors read text between the CI and Diorio where she

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Speaker 1: Out that's got to hurt Morse.

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Speaker 2: That really has to hurt She's sending him text describe

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Speaker 2: me how a previous hit man failed her and burned

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Speaker 1: Of the hit.

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Speaker 7: Well, people become defendants because they're not that bright. However,

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Speaker 7: is NFL Hall of Famer Shannon Sharp. He have some

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Speaker 7: So people text a lot of things, you know, so

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Speaker 3: A woman from New Jersey attempted to hire a hitman

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Speaker 1: Joining me in All Star panel. We've been going back and.

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Speaker 2: Forth with Greg Morse about his theory that it's all

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Speaker 2: the CI Confidential Informant's fault, that this woman hair stylist,

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Speaker 2: scorned lover really would never have ordered a hit on

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Speaker 2: her boyfriend if not for the CI alluring her into it.

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Speaker 2: But those text messages that she sent the CI that

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Speaker 2: she met at wahwaz on a date.

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Speaker 1: When he gets so, she goes, guess what, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't want a date. I want to hit man. How

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Speaker 2: about you? Those text messages are damning. And not only

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Speaker 2: are they damning, they make.

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Speaker 1: A great identification. Listen the debate.

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Speaker 10: Dentally informant that her ex boyfriend is a Philadelphia police officer.

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Speaker 4: And provided his need.

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Speaker 10: The defendon also provide the informant the telephone number of

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Speaker 7: The informantive dead men with.

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Speaker 10: Detected Durham, but the Candy County Proster's Office Major Crimes

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Speaker 2: Wow, Rodrigo terrejan joining us from Crime and Courts reporting

444
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Speaker 2: at the Philadelphia Inquirer. Rodrigo again, thank you for being

445
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Speaker 2: with us. So she didn't even use a burner phone.

446
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Speaker 2: She used her own phone to text with who she

447
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: thought was a CI, therefore giving up her identity.

448
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Speaker 1: Unless she wants to try to claim.

449
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Speaker 2: Somebody else had her phone or somehow impersonating her, she

450
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Speaker 2: used her own phone, Rodrigo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what it seems like. Prosecutors said that the

452
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Speaker 6: phone number and a photo of the Oreo were both

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Speaker 6: shown to the officer that she had allegedly tried to

454
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Speaker 6: have killed through this hitmap, and he confirmed both that

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Speaker 6: it was her in the photo and that that was

456
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Speaker 6: the number that they had used to communicate. So this,

457
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Speaker 6: according to what prosecutors have dug up, was her own

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Speaker 6: phone number.

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Speaker 1: Well, it gets worse for her listen if it.

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Speaker 10: Was interviewed and told the detective Deuram that the defendant

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Speaker 10: was adamant about killing the victim. Informant stated they which

462
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Speaker 10: they spoke about money, and that the defender stated, you

463
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Speaker 10: were willing to pay twelve.

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Speaker 3: Thousand dollars in cash.

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Speaker 10: During the conversations, defendant also told the informant that she

466
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Speaker 10: wanted the victim's teenage daughter killed as well.

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Speaker 1: The defendant told.

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Speaker 10: The informant she could pay five hundred dollars a front

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Speaker 10: and the rest being the installments.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Sherry Schwartz, joining US forensic psychologist, Doctor Sherry, the

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Speaker 2: defendant the hairstylist, the scorn hairstylist reiterated over and.

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Speaker 1: Over she was sure she.

473
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Speaker 2: Wanted the hit to go down, adamant, adamant, insistent that

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Speaker 2: it happens, and again, I must compare it to the

475
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Speaker 2: Dahlia Dippolito, Okays, where she says that I believe she's

476
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Speaker 2: five thousand percent sure she wants her husband dead, and

477
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Speaker 2: it's all caught on tape.

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Speaker 1: Of course, listen.

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Speaker 7: Now, and when he's done, you know, not change your money.

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Speaker 2: But if you change your money, no, no, like like

481
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Speaker 2: well five thousand to five thousand percent.

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Speaker 1: Sure, that's for our friends at ABC twenty twenty.

483
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Speaker 2: What does that mean, Sherry Schwartz, I mean the CI

484
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Speaker 2: gives the defendant opportunity to turn back, opportunity to go.

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Speaker 2: You know what, this is crazy talk. I don't want

486
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Speaker 2: to do this, but instead they are adamant. They are

487
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Speaker 2: hell bent on murder.

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Speaker 9: That's that's exactly what it is. That she wanted the

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Speaker 9: job done, She was willing to pay for it. She did,

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Speaker 9: in fact, put a down payment on it. And that

491
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Speaker 9: is an indication that you are serious and you want

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Speaker 9: this done. And like it was previously mentioned, this is

493
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Speaker 9: somebody who, by her own admission, made a prior attempt

494
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Speaker 9: and was duped according to her. So this is somebody

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Speaker 9: who's had some time to think about it and is

496
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Speaker 9: one that she wants this done.

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Speaker 2: Joining us is a survivor, and that doesn't begin to

498
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Speaker 2: describe what he went through.

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Speaker 1: Baron Lee is with us.

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Speaker 2: He was shot point blank range, shot nine times by

501
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Speaker 2: teens hired by his wife to murder him.

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Speaker 1: As I recall, you were going to your car and

503
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Speaker 1: they swarmed you.

504
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Speaker 2: You were shot nine times and lived all over money

505
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Speaker 2: that was meant that was earmarked to raise their disabled son.

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Speaker 1: She wanted that money. At any point when you two

507
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Speaker 1: were having a.

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Speaker 2: Contentious split, did you ever get the sense that she

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Speaker 2: would want you dead?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I actually had gone through a couple incidents where

511
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Speaker 4: she tried to run me over with the vehicle, and

512
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Speaker 4: so when I was shot, I already knew it was

513
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Speaker 4: her who was behind it.

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Speaker 2: But when you say that you knew she was behind it,

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Speaker 2: let me refine my question. When did you get a

516
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Speaker 2: sense or an inkling that she wanted you dead? As

517
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Speaker 2: you were lying there on the pavement bleeding out, you

518
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Speaker 2: knew at that moment that she was.

519
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Speaker 1: Behind the hit.

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Speaker 2: You weren't wronged, you weren't sex molested, you know, it

521
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: wasn't a car jag, nothing like that. This was obviously

522
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: a hit on you specifically, and you knew then as

523
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Speaker 2: you were bleeding out who did it. But leading up

524
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Speaker 2: to that, was there a moment where you were actually

525
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Speaker 2: afraid or thought, you know, she wants me dead?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, like I said, we had a five

527
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: year you know, contention of custody with my son, and

528
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Speaker 4: during that time she had attempted to run me over

529
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Speaker 4: twice during child exchanges, So you know, to the first time, I,

530
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Speaker 4: you know, just chucked it off that first a just

531
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Speaker 4: being angry. When she tried to run me over the

532
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Speaker 4: second time, I realized that definitely she wanted I guess this.

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Speaker 2: Case is bringing back a lot of bad memories because,

534
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Speaker 2: according to reports, this is not Diorio's first attempt.

535
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Speaker 1: We've got the Molotov cocktail incident.

536
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Speaker 2: That many attribute to her that has not been proven

537
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Speaker 2: in a court of law, and she's innocent until proven guilty.

538
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: Then we have her telling the CI don't burn me.

539
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: I've been burned before with fakes, with lies by hitman.

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Speaker 2: In your case, there were multiple attempts as well. Did

541
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Speaker 2: you feel invincible? Did you believe you would never be killed?

542
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Speaker 6: No, of course not.

543
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 4: But you know, this woman sounds just like my ex wife.

544
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Speaker 4: Looks like she's not going to stop until she can

545
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Speaker 4: get the job done. Even after my ex wife peg

546
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: gott and she found out that I survived, she was

547
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: actually working with the teenagers to have them come back

548
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: for a second attempt. So I'm sure this woman has

549
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 4: the same kind of mindset that you know. If left

550
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: to her devices, she was going to get this job

551
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: done one way or another.

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00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 7: During the recording conversations.

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Speaker 10: Wells previous conversation with the informative defendant discusses her desire

554
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Speaker 10: to have teenage daughter of her ex boyfriend killed.

555
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Speaker 7: First, while then followed by the victim of the boyfriend.

556
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Speaker 10: The reason that the defendant gave is the order of

557
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 10: killings was that she wanted to kill the victim's teenage

558
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 10: daughter because the killing the police officer would draw too

559
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Speaker 10: much screwtiny from Lawnborce and well not as much lawmfors

560
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Speaker 10: and resources would be dedicated to investigating the den an

561
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Speaker 10: officer's daughter.

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Speaker 1: What did I just hear that incorrectly?

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Speaker 2: To Rodrigo Tetrjane joining us from Philadelphia, Inquirer Rodrigo, that's

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Speaker 2: why she wanted the teen daughter killed At first? When

565
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Speaker 2: I started investigating the case, I thought it was because

566
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: she was jealous of attention or love given to the

567
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Speaker 2: teen daughter.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that at Oh, this woman might as well

569
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: be a lizard. Her blood is cold. Explain why she

570
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: wanted the daughter killed first?

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Speaker 6: Sure, so, according to what prosecutors said, and you heard

572
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Speaker 6: it right there, she was very methodical about the order

573
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Speaker 6: in which she wanted these two people killed. She knew,

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Speaker 6: according to prosecutors that the assassination of a police officer

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Speaker 6: would bring unwanted attention. So she made it very clear,

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Speaker 6: according to prosecutors, that she wanted the daughter killed first,

577
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Speaker 6: the teen daughter killed first, and then the Philadelphia police

578
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 6: officer to mitigate the attention that would be focused in

579
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Speaker 6: on these hits.

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Speaker 2: Amazing the way she planned this out, doctor Sherry Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: That is some cold blood, methodical planning right there. Reasoning

582
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Speaker 2: as to why she wanted the girl killed first.

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Speaker 1: That's what she says.

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Speaker 9: I actually think there's some a darker motive for why

585
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 9: she wanted the daughter killed first. I think that she

586
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 9: was looking to hurt her ex boyfriend and she wanted

587
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 9: him to suffer before she ultimately had him murdered.

588
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: Wow, to increase the suffering of the boyfriend. How is

589
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: it again, doctor Sherry. I can understand all the hatred

590
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: that must brew, must percolate and boil over and say

591
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: a long term marriage, But here there was no property division,

592
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Speaker 2: There was no custody argument, no pots and pans, no

593
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: dog to argue, nothing. How could you develop such intense

594
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: hatred and just a brief dating relationship.

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is somebody who maybe came to the

596
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Speaker 9: relationship with that level of hatred. It's hard to say.

597
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Speaker 9: There isn't anything specific that I saw in researching the

598
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Speaker 9: case that cites a reason that he did something to

599
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 9: her that maybe would cause her to have such bitter

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Speaker 9: antipathy toward him. But sometimes people come as they are,

601
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Speaker 9: and that may be a reason that the relationship didn't

602
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 9: work out.

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Speaker 10: The most concerning aspect of the facts that this case,

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Speaker 10: involving the fact that he disappears not to be an

605
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 10: isolated attempt by the defendant to contract someone to kill

606
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Speaker 10: the victim. As evidence, an escort, which is a text

607
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 10: message screenshot between the defendant and the informative.

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Speaker 6: Defend states as she had people.

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Speaker 7: Looking at in the eye and lie before and how

610
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 7: is she going to get proved?

611
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Speaker 10: She also says that fake pictures could be said to her,

612
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Speaker 10: and how is she.

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Speaker 7: Going to believe that that the victim was in fact dead, and.

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Speaker 10: How she said someone who previously said her fake pictures before?

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Gray.

616
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Speaker 5: Jennifer Emmy, a well known lawyer defending animal rights, now

617
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Speaker 5: has to defend herself against allegations she ordered to hit

618
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Speaker 5: on her ex husband's new girlfriend after the couple's nasty divorce.

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Speaker 5: A hand at Emmy's nonprofit ranch went to the police.

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Speaker 5: Well the recording of Emmy asking if he knew anyone

621
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Speaker 5: who could take care of her ex's much younger new girlfriend,

622
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Speaker 5: during which she said, no one will miss her. If

623
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Speaker 5: someone could help me get rid of her.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me.

625
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 2: Amazing in the sense that when you go to the

626
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: snakehouse at the zoo you look at the snakes through

627
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: a thick glass wall, or looking at a tarantula in

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Speaker 2: a box. Amazing in that sense that not only according

629
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Speaker 2: to the state, of course.

630
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Speaker 1: Dioryo is innocent, he'll prove the guilty.

631
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Speaker 2: According to the state, she wanted not only her boyfriend

632
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Speaker 2: ex boyfriend, but his teen daughter dead.

633
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Speaker 1: Two. In the case of attorney.

634
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: Jennifer Emmy, she wanted the girlfriend of her ex murdered.

635
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: That's a whole different psychopathy. And in this case, Greg Morris,

636
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: you've got both, according to prosecution. Now a great defense

637
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: attorney like you may be able to convince the jury.

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00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: Oh this was all just talk. She didn't mean it,

639
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: she didn't really want it to happen, But we do

640
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Speaker 1: have her.

641
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Speaker 2: According to the prosecutors, handing over a down payment of

642
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Speaker 2: five hundred.

643
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: Dollars at Dollar General. She picks the.

644
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: Places right where you know there's going to be surveillance

645
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: video the handover is it Dollar General? And wawas they're

646
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: like Vegas for Pete's say they're covered and oh my goodness,

647
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: yeah they're over in security video. I guess you didn't

648
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: think that part through. But they desire to have not

649
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: only your object of hatred murdered, but then an innocent

650
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: person who's getting dragged into it.

651
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could probably.

652
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: Argue to a jury's all just talk. She didn't really

653
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: want it to happen. She didn't know what she was saying.

654
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: Don't prosecute her, don't send her to jail. I can

655
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: hear it right now. But that's a whole another layer

656
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: of evil. You don't just want your hate object. Did

657
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: you want people around them? Did? Well?

658
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 7: I think you're right, and what we've said before, it

659
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 7: was probably to harm the ex boy friend to see

660
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 7: his daughter killed first, and then you know he has

661
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Speaker 7: to suffer that. But you also, you know you have

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Speaker 7: a situation here where folks what they think in their head,

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Speaker 7: it's going to be like when they pull a trigger

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Speaker 7: or in this case, try to hire someone to kill someone.

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Speaker 7: The reality though of that and how that plays out

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Speaker 7: is totally different, as we see in all these cases,

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Speaker 7: whether it's dip Alito, whether it's the Oreo, They're on

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Speaker 7: surveillance cameras, they have phones registered in their name. These

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Speaker 7: are folks that aren't making the smartest choices, right.

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Speaker 1: So, but I also think that that doesn't make the

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Speaker 1: victim any less dead.

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Speaker 7: Morse, Well, there's nobody dead here, and maybe it was

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Speaker 7: because she was only was it allows of PAM that

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Speaker 7: was found in her car. She's charged with that also

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Speaker 7: drug count so and she also offered five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Dollars please put him hit on.

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Speaker 2: Actually trying to argue it all that they the illegal

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Speaker 2: use of drugs is somehow a defense as opposed to

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Speaker 2: an additional felony charge. We all know all the legal

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Speaker 2: that voluntary use of drugs are alcoholism ever a defense?

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, But it doesn't mean it can't lead

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Speaker 7: to some break with reality or there's some impact on her.

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Speaker 7: She was acting weird. Anyone that's had a loved one

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Speaker 7: who's been under a lot of anesthesia knows when you

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Speaker 7: come out of it sometimes you're going to have some

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Speaker 7: mental issues. You're going to see the world differently, You're

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Speaker 7: going to see the world wrong. Maybe she had an

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Speaker 7: impact on that because somehow comparing this.

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Speaker 2: And when I videoed the twins after they had the

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Speaker 2: Wistar teeth cut out, No, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean it never ends with you. You're actually giving me

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Speaker 1: a headache right now, Well.

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Speaker 2: Medic medication, Okay, medication, Medication's mind that Rodrigo Tetahan joining

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Speaker 2: us from Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Inquirer. Where does the case stand now? What's happening?

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Speaker 6: Sure, so there is a next hearing schedule for middle

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Speaker 6: of June. Right now, do Rio is in custody without bails,

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Speaker 6: so she's basically in jail until her next court hearing.

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Speaker 6: I've attempted to reach the officer that is allegedly the

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Speaker 6: target of this hit attempt have been unable to reach

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Speaker 6: him or his family. And that's really where it stands.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 6: The detention hearing was basically to figure out if she

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Speaker 6: would be released because she has no prior criminal record.

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Speaker 6: Of course, the judge sided with the prosecutor's office and

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Speaker 6: said we're going to go give no bail and she's

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Speaker 6: going to be in custody until her next year.

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Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about the

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Speaker 2: alleged attempt on the officer's life or he has daughter's life.

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Speaker 2: The case is still being built by the state. Eight

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Speaker 2: five six two two five five one two seven repeat

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Speaker 2: eight five six two two five five to one to seven.

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Speaker 2: Now we remember an American hero police officer, Christopher Kilcullen, EGENPD, Oregon,

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Speaker 2: shot and killed in a line of duty twelve years

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Speaker 2: with law enforcement, leaving me hein widow Christie, daughters Sydney

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Speaker 2: and Katie Anne. American hero officer Jay Christopher kil Cohen

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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,