WEBVTT - The Microwave, Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Invention, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Invention. My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McCormick. And when are people going to be listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this? Thanksgiving hasn't happened yet, right, so you're not

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<v Speaker 1>heating up leftovers for a week heating up leftovers, Joe. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping that people will be inspired by this look

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<v Speaker 1>at the microwave and they will cook their entire turkey

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<v Speaker 1>in there. That is a horrible idea. I don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just looking it up and there you can

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<v Speaker 1>find some uh semi convincing recipes online for how to

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<v Speaker 1>cook your entire Thanksgiving turkey in a microwave oven, in

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<v Speaker 1>a dirty microwave with a little splatter stains, a nice

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<v Speaker 1>clean microwave for a just a wonderful Thanksgiving. Does butter

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<v Speaker 1>Ball sell a turkey that comes with its own hot

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<v Speaker 1>pocket style sleeve to crisp up the exterior? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. But yes, we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the microwave oven here on Invention. And the

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<v Speaker 1>whole reason that we're launching this in November is because, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a month that is typically associated with food

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<v Speaker 1>and feasts, and so we've been looking at some food

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<v Speaker 1>based innovations, and really the microwave is is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big ones, uh, in terms of inventions that have

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<v Speaker 1>come along in the you know, the last hundred years

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<v Speaker 1>and have just changed the way that we think about

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<v Speaker 1>the household kitchen totally. Uh. Now, Robert, you mentioned there

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<v Speaker 1>are many common mishaps that happened with the microwave, and

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the ones I identify with the most

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<v Speaker 1>is forgetting that I can't just put a stick of

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<v Speaker 1>butter in the microwave and a container to melt the butter.

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<v Speaker 1>This happens about once a year where I need, like

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly I'm making pancakes for house guests or something something

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do very often. I'm like, I'll just melt

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<v Speaker 1>the butter in the microwave. I think maybe it's happened

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<v Speaker 1>for the last time because I'm talking about it out

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<v Speaker 1>loud now, But every time it explodes inside the microwave

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to clean up butter everywhere for ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes or however long. Yeah, the stick of butter explosion

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<v Speaker 1>is is is something that's very hard to miss. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the sound when you hear it, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you think, oh crap, I I did it again. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I have a pretty good system for the times I

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<v Speaker 1>need to have melted butter for making pancakes or pop

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<v Speaker 1>popovers or something. And I'll take the butter and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'll slice it up into smaller pieces, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>microwave those small pieces of butter in a bowl with

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<v Speaker 1>a cover for her, you know, ten fifteen seconds something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and if they need more, I'll give him

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<v Speaker 1>another blast. But sometimes I get a little cocky and

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<v Speaker 1>I either forget to cover it, or I don't cut

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<v Speaker 1>it up as much or give it a little too

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<v Speaker 1>much time, and then once more, unexplosion, everything is covered

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<v Speaker 1>in butter. And of course there are some other mishaps

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<v Speaker 1>that occur from time to time. We've all attempted to

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<v Speaker 1>reheat some leftovers or cook a microwave meal, and part

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<v Speaker 1>of it will be super hot and part of it

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<v Speaker 1>will be almost ice cold. Also, gold leaf, say on

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<v Speaker 1>your grandmother's fine china, will turn blue in the microwave oven.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course we've all either burnt popcorn or

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<v Speaker 1>cremated a fish stick or something like that. While attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to heat something up in the microwave. Generally this is

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<v Speaker 1>user air. But but I think the big take home

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<v Speaker 1>here is that these are the times when the microwave

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<v Speaker 1>oven disappoints us and we take a few moments to

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<v Speaker 1>gripe about our microwave oven. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>the microwave oven works exceedingly well at the things that

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<v Speaker 1>it's good at. It works so well that it is

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<v Speaker 1>just a part. It's a part of our kitchen, something

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<v Speaker 1>we just completely take for granted, being able to reheat

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<v Speaker 1>foods that we cooked the night before, to cook microwave dinners,

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<v Speaker 1>or certainly, you know, if you're making pancakes or whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not getting too cocky with your butter away

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<v Speaker 1>to heat something that is going to be utilized in

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<v Speaker 1>a recipe for something else that may involve your conventional

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, your gas oven, etcetera. Right, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I cook a lot in the house, and sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>can be kind of snobby about the way certain foods

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<v Speaker 1>are prepared. So you might think, well, then you don't

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<v Speaker 1>use the microwave much, But no, I use the microwave

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and there's tons of stuff that's perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>good for. I would not recommend cooking your Thanksgiving turkey

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<v Speaker 1>in the microwave. It's uh, it's probably not going to

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<v Speaker 1>work out very well. The outside is not gonna look

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<v Speaker 1>very appetizing, It'll end up extremely dry, and you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get very much browning or whatever on the skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Has to do with the way the microwave cooks things

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not good for. Stuff like that. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>good for like big meat roasts and stuff. But for say, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>thawing out frozen liquid based things. You know you've got

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<v Speaker 1>frozen stock or soup or something like that, it's fantastic, right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly popcorn is a great example. You need to microwave popcorn.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no better way heat up a little water, et cetera. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to heating up water, though, there there's

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<v Speaker 1>another thing where there can be dangerous associated with with

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it heats up food. Like uh, in

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<v Speaker 1>certain water containers, you can sometimes get the splash up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the rapid boil when you dip a spoon

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<v Speaker 1>into water that you've heated up in the microwave. If

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<v Speaker 1>there are no nucleation points in the water as it

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<v Speaker 1>heats up for bubbles to form, so it can gets

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<v Speaker 1>kind of superheated but without boiling. Uh So, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a little thing you might have often seen people like

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<v Speaker 1>putting a little coffee stir or stick or something is

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of non metal spoon into water as they

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<v Speaker 1>heat it up, and that's just to help create nucleation

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<v Speaker 1>points for bubbles to form so that the water can

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<v Speaker 1>boil properly while it's being heated. Interesting, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take our typical approach here to an invention then, in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, it's the invention of the microwave oven. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we can really appreciate what the microwave oven changes, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about what came before. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>given that this is a twentieth century invention, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>came before. Everything else in human culinary history came before.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously that means many different forms of oven came first,

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<v Speaker 1>earth ovens, ceramic ovens, gas ovens, masonry ovens, toaster ovens,

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<v Speaker 1>steam ovens, convection ovens, rotary ovens. At heart, an oven

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<v Speaker 1>of any sort is just simply quote, a chamber used

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<v Speaker 1>for baking, heating, or drying. That's you're just standard Webster's

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<v Speaker 1>definition there, and most of these utilized fire or an

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<v Speaker 1>electric heating element, you know, something that will heat the

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<v Speaker 1>chamber and therefore heat the food. Connecting to a recent episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if anybody ever made a setup where you

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<v Speaker 1>had a turnspit dog to rotate the plate inside the

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<v Speaker 1>microave as it goes around. Well, you gotta rotate that

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<v Speaker 1>plate one way or another. But the microwave oven the

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<v Speaker 1>main way it's different. Uh, you know, regardless of how

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<v Speaker 1>neat that little rotating tray happens to be, the main

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<v Speaker 1>reason it's different is because it heats food by exposing

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<v Speaker 1>the food to electro magnetic radiation in the microwave frequency range.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right now, we're gonna be talking a good bit

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<v Speaker 1>in these microwave episodes about anti microwave panic. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the terror some people feel at the idea of a

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<v Speaker 1>microwave or radiating their food like it's a nuclear test

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<v Speaker 1>site in your kitchen. You shouldn't let the word radiat

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<v Speaker 1>shan their contribute to this kind of anti microwave panic. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Most radiation, of course, is harmless to you. The light

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of your desk lamp is radiation, and so

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<v Speaker 1>in this vein to further demystify the magic of the

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<v Speaker 1>microwave cooking box, I think it might be worth a

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<v Speaker 1>very quick detour to explain a bit of the underlying

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<v Speaker 1>physics here as simply as possible. So, electromagnetic radiation is

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<v Speaker 1>the same type of radiation as radio waves, infrared and

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<v Speaker 1>visible light UV radiation, X rays, and gamma rays. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all the same stuff. It's all photons. What varies to

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<v Speaker 1>make the difference between all of these is the frequency,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning how fast the waves cycle or oscillate, which can

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<v Speaker 1>also be expressed. The same thing can be expressed in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of wave length. Faster oscillating waves are shorter, Slower

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<v Speaker 1>oscillating waves are longer, and despite the name, microwaves are

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<v Speaker 1>actually relatively long low frequency waves. They're called micro waves

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<v Speaker 1>because their wavelength is short compared to radio waves, but

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<v Speaker 1>microwaves are long compared to pretty much everything else. And

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<v Speaker 1>even that appellation sort of it helps place them in

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<v Speaker 1>a historical context, right because when you when you see

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<v Speaker 1>microwave consciousness emerging among physicists, it's sort of like as

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<v Speaker 1>another part of what is generally thought of as the

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<v Speaker 1>radio frequency. Now the really dangerous types of radiation we

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<v Speaker 1>think of like X rays and gamma rays, the kinds

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<v Speaker 1>that cause cancer and radiation poisoning and such. These have

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<v Speaker 1>much shorter wavelengths and faster oscillations. Electromagnetic radiation in the

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<v Speaker 1>microwave range actually has a lower frequency than visible light

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<v Speaker 1>that we see with our eyes. Microwaves are defined as

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<v Speaker 1>electromagnetic waves at a frequency greater than three hundred megaherts,

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<v Speaker 1>which is three hundred million waves per second, and less

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<v Speaker 1>than three hundred giga hurts, which is three hundred billion

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<v Speaker 1>waves per second. Uh. And this equates two wavelengths between

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<v Speaker 1>about one meter and one millimeter. So when you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pick sure in microwaves, of course they're invisible, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can think of them as waves that are basically

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<v Speaker 1>on the human scale. You could measure them with a

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<v Speaker 1>ruler or a tape measure. Yeah, I've frequently seen them

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<v Speaker 1>described as being about the length of a of a toothbrush.

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<v Speaker 1>That's certainly within there. Yeah, between the meter and millimeter scale.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, almost everything that's understand that not understandable, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything that's you know, reasonable to measure with your arms

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<v Speaker 1>or hands is sort of in the microwave scale. So

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<v Speaker 1>how does a microwave oven generate microwaves. Well, it's through

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<v Speaker 1>the use of this all important electrical device called a magnetron. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>the main thing that operates your microwave oven is a

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<v Speaker 1>little device that you can hold in your hand. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to try to go into super deep detail

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<v Speaker 1>about everything about all the inner workings of the magnetron.

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<v Speaker 1>It's especially hard to do without visual aids, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to give you the simple version. So, a magnetron

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<v Speaker 1>is a device for turning electric current like you get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the wall socket into microwave rate ation. And

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<v Speaker 1>it consists of a vacuum tube made out of a metal,

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<v Speaker 1>often something like copper, with a conductive filament in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of that tube. And then you'll have large permanent magnets,

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<v Speaker 1>usually doughnut shaped, on each end of the tube. And

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<v Speaker 1>as voltage is applied to the filament that runs through

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of this vacuum tube, the filament the currents

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<v Speaker 1>running through it and it gets incredibly hot, and then

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<v Speaker 1>electrons start to fly off of this negatively charged hot

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<v Speaker 1>filament toward the walls of the positively charged tube and

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<v Speaker 1>there's so there's an electric field in the vacuum in

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<v Speaker 1>between this filament in the middle of the tube and

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<v Speaker 1>the walls of the tube. But the magnets at each

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<v Speaker 1>end of the tube help shape that flow of electrons

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<v Speaker 1>through that vacuum in something kind of like a spiral

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<v Speaker 1>or pinwheel shape. And then meanwhile, the metal inner surface

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<v Speaker 1>of the tube contains little pockets or cavities, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>these cavities that are so important in creating the microwaves.

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<v Speaker 1>The spiraling flow of electrons from the through the vacuum

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<v Speaker 1>tube rapidly passes over the mouths of those cavities, and

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<v Speaker 1>it results in vibration of electrons that creates the electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 1>radiation in the microwave spectrum. Uh. So this is how

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<v Speaker 1>the waves are created. They're they're emitted by these electrons

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<v Speaker 1>as they're like changing energy states. Uh. These microwaves are

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<v Speaker 1>projected off the end of an antenna and guided into

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<v Speaker 1>the metal lined inter cage of the oven, where they

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<v Speaker 1>reflect around. They bounce around inside this and they heat

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<v Speaker 1>the food up. So we've got electromagnetic waves bouncing around,

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<v Speaker 1>But how does that actually cook the food. The answer

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<v Speaker 1>is that almost all foods contain polar molecules. Primarily water molecules,

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<v Speaker 1>and what that means is that ht H two O

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<v Speaker 1>is slightly positively charged at one end and slightly negatively

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<v Speaker 1>charged at the other end. And so as these microwaves

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<v Speaker 1>passed by these water molecules, these polar molecules, the molecules

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<v Speaker 1>try to rotate to align their poles with the direction

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<v Speaker 1>of the electric field produced by each wave. But being waves,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, they are rapidly oscillating the direction of that

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<v Speaker 1>field back and forth. At two point four gigaherts. These

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<v Speaker 1>microwaves passed by billions of times per second, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the rapid rotating back and forth of the water molecules

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<v Speaker 1>sort of jostles them all around. As they get jostled

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<v Speaker 1>around trying to align themselves with this rapidly alternating field.

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<v Speaker 1>This manifests is heat. Rapid vibration of molecules, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is heat. Now we should note that some varieties of

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<v Speaker 1>microwave oven may introduce additional heating sources, but what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here is the standard microwave oven. Are there

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<v Speaker 1>like microwaves that have fires inside would be great? Um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they are microwaves that basically involve a heating element and addition, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but but but this is the standard. No gas, no

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<v Speaker 1>heating element, no fire, just invisible waves agitating water molecules

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<v Speaker 1>causing them to vibrate rapidly producing heat. Uh. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is why most containers don't you know, microwave safe containers

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<v Speaker 1>don't heat up at least, you know, they don't heat

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<v Speaker 1>up due to the microwave itself. The food itself may

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<v Speaker 1>heat up the dish, etcetera. But the oven does this rapidly.

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<v Speaker 1>The oven also does this without requiring any sort of preheating.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not going to warm up your kitchen on

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<v Speaker 1>a hot day, or at least not like a four

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty degree oven will. I mean, it's the basic

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<v Speaker 1>electronic device will heat your room a little bit, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the standard oven you've got to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>This has to work by heating up the air inside it.

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<v Speaker 1>In a microwave, that doesn't matter. In fact, the air

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<v Speaker 1>inside a microwave doesn't even get hot except in whatever

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<v Speaker 1>way it's like exposed to steam and stuff. Right. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and also we'll come back to this again. You already

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<v Speaker 1>touched on a little bit. But the cooking chamber itself

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<v Speaker 1>is surrounded by something like a Faraday cage to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>the microwaves from escaping. They're bouncing around in there. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't get out. Even in the viewing panel, as everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>probably noticed, is covered with a mesh that allows light

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<v Speaker 1>to pass through, but not the microwaves. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>very important. So you can look through because visible light

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<v Speaker 1>is small enough of a wavelength to penetrate that mesh,

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<v Speaker 1>but the microwaves are too long to penetrate the mesh.

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<v Speaker 1>They're stuck inside. And now there might be in modern

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<v Speaker 1>microwaves a tiny amount of microwave leakage. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's been we'll talk about this more, probably in

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<v Speaker 1>the next episode, but there have been concerns throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>history of microwave design about how much microwaves can leak

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<v Speaker 1>out of the oven. Modern microwaves are generally very safe.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep almost entirely contained. That which leaks out is

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<v Speaker 1>not enough to cook too much. So that's the microwave

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<v Speaker 1>oven in a nutshell. The next step is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be for us to look at the inventor of the

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<v Speaker 1>microwave oven. We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>zero zero and we're back. So it's time to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the inventor of the microwave. That's right, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Percy Spencer, who lived eight through nineteen seventy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of those you know, we we often

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<v Speaker 1>find these interesting stories, human stories of the inventors that

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<v Speaker 1>are wrapped up in these inventions, and this is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>one of the more interesting tales, interesting origin stories of

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<v Speaker 1>an inventor. Uh. So, basically a rags to rich's tail.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had a really rough early life. Uh. Percy

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<v Speaker 1>lost his father eighteen months after his birth, was raised

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<v Speaker 1>by his uncle and aunt, and then his uncle died

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<v Speaker 1>when he was seven, and he had to quit grammar

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<v Speaker 1>school to earned money to help support himself and his aunt.

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<v Speaker 1>He worked at a spool mill from age twelve through sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but he showed an early knack for electrical work, so

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<v Speaker 1>he joined the navy at age eighteen and got into

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<v Speaker 1>wireless communication, namely radio. He taught himself numerous mathematical and

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<v Speaker 1>scientific subjects just you know, consuming the books on his own,

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<v Speaker 1>so he was largely self taught. Um. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>ends up joining the Raytheon Company in nine Now If

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<v Speaker 1>you're familiar with the Raytheon company, you you're probably thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is the enormous uh like defense contractor

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, an industrial company, uh, you know, major player.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the time when when when Spencer joined Raytheon,

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<v Speaker 1>he became its fifth employee. Wow, so he really got

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<v Speaker 1>in on the ground floor here. But this would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a time when if you were working in uh

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<v Speaker 1>in like wireless communication, this was cutting edge stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been highly relevant, not just wireless communication,

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<v Speaker 1>but like electromagnetic imaging and stuff would have been extremely

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<v Speaker 1>valuable to say international war efforts in national defense, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>and and that was a lot of the work that

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<v Speaker 1>was going on with Raytheon at the time. UM he

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<v Speaker 1>was extremely successful within the company. He helped develop the

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<v Speaker 1>first gaseous rectifier two, which was essential for household radio technology,

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<v Speaker 1>and over the course of his career he came to

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<v Speaker 1>hold more than a hundred and thirty patents, including patents

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<v Speaker 1>for the application of microwave energy to medical uh diathermy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the production of heat and a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the body to stimulate to circulation, relief pain, destroy unhealthy tissue,

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<v Speaker 1>or to clock bleeding vessels. And during this time, Raytheon

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<v Speaker 1>grew enormously as well, uh, you know, becoming the the

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<v Speaker 1>major US defense contractor that we know today. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can, you can. You can look up a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of his patents, a lot of Spencer's patents, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>they were up you know, for a variety of highly

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<v Speaker 1>technical things such as electrical space discharge device or high

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<v Speaker 1>efficiency magnetron, the magnetron we mentioned already, uh, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the likes of For instance, he obtained a two

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<v Speaker 1>patent for an improved automobile cigarette lighter, UH, one that

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<v Speaker 1>indicates by touch when the element will be hot enough

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<v Speaker 1>to light something. Here's a quote from it. An object

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<v Speaker 1>of this invention, therefore, is to produce a cigarette lighter

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<v Speaker 1>which will give the operator a TecTile indication at the

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<v Speaker 1>time when the igniting element of the lighter reaches its

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<v Speaker 1>proper temperature. And this could have saved me some pain

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. While I was telling you earlier today

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<v Speaker 1>about a time when years ago, I was like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years old or something, and I was just sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>my car waiting somewhere one time, and I'd never really

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<v Speaker 1>used the cigarette lighter in my car. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it works, does it get hot? Because

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<v Speaker 1>my car was old. So I pressed it in and

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<v Speaker 1>then I pulled it out and I was like, is

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<v Speaker 1>it hot? It doesn't look hot, and I pressed my

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<v Speaker 1>thumb to it to find out. And that was a

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<v Speaker 1>bad day. Well see if that, if this invention had

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<v Speaker 1>really taken off, and he could have saved you some time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>But Spencer is best known for his invention for Raytheon

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<v Speaker 1>of the microwave oven um, and most of these patents

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<v Speaker 1>that you can look at, you can see that they

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<v Speaker 1>are there. You know, they're filed through, filed by Raytheon

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<v Speaker 1>with his name on it. Now you might be asking,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, why would Raytheon be concerned with coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with a new method for cooking food? Right? That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really seem to fit within their their niche, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But in fact, they were not looking for a new

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<v Speaker 1>way to create food, right. They were they were looking

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<v Speaker 1>into the communication aspects of of of these waves and

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<v Speaker 1>the microwaves. And the story goes that Spencer was working

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<v Speaker 1>in the lab on a radar set and he noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that the candy bar in his pocket had melted, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, others had observed this sort of thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the past already. He was not the first individual to

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<v Speaker 1>notice that microwaves could, say, melt food or heat up food,

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<v Speaker 1>or heat up you know, some sort of organic material.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was the first to investigate the matter, and

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up experimenting with different foods, including popcorn, including eggs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I read that there was a story where he made

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<v Speaker 1>an egg explode on somebody's face. Microwaves, um, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll by exposing them to the magnetron. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>built the first microwave oven of sorts by by enclosing

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<v Speaker 1>all of this within a metal box and testing various

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<v Speaker 1>foods inside of it. I don't know why, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have a strong gut feeling that Spencer was

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<v Speaker 1>a good cook. Well man, maybe not. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>the whole story of the microwaves will continue to explore

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<v Speaker 1>is this kind of struggle with what it should be

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<v Speaker 1>used for. But but well, we'll get back to that

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<v Speaker 1>later on. So ray Beon filed a patent for the

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<v Speaker 1>microwave cooking process on October eight n and the Radar

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<v Speaker 1>Range hit the market in nineteen six. I love that name,

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<v Speaker 1>the Radar Range. What if we still called it that

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 1>people would love it more it Uh yeah, they might,

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.399
<v Speaker 1>they might, you know, Uh, it's but this thing was

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<v Speaker 1>a monster. This thing looked like a robot out of

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<v Speaker 1>out of a science fiction film from the period. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a six ft seven and fifty pound beast

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<v Speaker 1>of an appliance. But this was just the beginning. This

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<v Speaker 1>was just a true, you know, glimpse at the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>of the future. But can you imagine a person at

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<v Speaker 1>the time when this very first is a consumer option, thinking, Okay,

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 1>I've got ruined my kitchen for a regular oven or

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<v Speaker 1>a microwave oven. Which one do I want? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's another issue here too, is this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that the microwave oven is going to somehow replace conventional ovens,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not gonna need a gas oven or a

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>or you know, a heating element oven. But we'll get

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>into all that in a bit. Obviously, this monster did

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 1>not catch catch on right away. Uh. If you weren't

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>scared away by the idea of cooking food with radiation

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<v Speaker 1>in X, then certainly the five thousand dollar price tag

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<v Speaker 1>probably did the trick. This would have been equal to

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<v Speaker 1>to about fifty thousand if today's dollars, according to APS News,

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>but they continued, of course, to make improvements. This was

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>just the first model. The first countertop home model went

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 1>on sale in the nineteen fifties for four and by

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<v Speaker 1>roughly nine of US households owned a microwave oven. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk more about the legacy of the microwave oven

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<v Speaker 1>in our second episode on the invention. Well, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>funny contrast actually to this behemoth you've gotten in the

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<v Speaker 1>early years, because I think it's exactly the size and

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 1>portability of a microwave that makes it useful in a

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of places where you wouldn't even have a regular stove.

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<v Speaker 1>These days, I think the dorm rooms. Dorm rooms are

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<v Speaker 1>a big one. Yeah, not only the size and the

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 1>mobility of the microwave oven, but the degree to which

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<v Speaker 1>you can trust it's safety with college students, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when I was in a dorm, you know,

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of regulations about you can't have candles,

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>can have incense, or all these things you cannot have

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>because they're potentially dangerous to you or the entire building.

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 1>But the microwave oven is safe now. Spencer continued to

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>be involved in the evolution of the design and and

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and its usages as well. Uh. Consider his nine patent

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.120
<v Speaker 1>application which is granted in nineteen fifty one for a

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>microwave oven cooking method. Uh. And this is the wonderful

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 1>intro quote. This invention relates to food cooking, and more

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.199
<v Speaker 1>particularly to the cooking of lobsters and thick bodies of

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>meat by the use of electromagnetic wave energy. It's gonna

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.119
<v Speaker 1>get lobsters in their right at the top. Is he

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to sell it as like a luxe fancy item

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>that way, or I mean basically, it is a patent

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>about an improved method for cooking lobsters in a microwave oven. H.

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 1>It includes an illustration of the oven with a whole

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>lobster in it. Um and Uh, yeah it is. It

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>is all about out lobsters. For instance. There's there's some

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>more quotes from it. Quote. A further object is to

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>devise a novel method for broiling lobsters a steal. Further

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>object is to devise a method for preventing curling of

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the tail sections of lobsters during broiling, thereof thereby to

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>maintain such lobsters substantially constant and thickness during such broiling

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 1>and quote, an additional object is to devise a method

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>which will prevent curling of the tail sections of lobsters

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.360
<v Speaker 1>during broiling and will at the same time cause more

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>effective coupling of the heat energy into the interior of

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the tail sections of such lobsters. So much thought about

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the tail sections. Yeah, and I want to be clear

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:43.959
<v Speaker 1>about the spencer was talking about microwaving live lobsters. Quote.

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>It has been found that an electronic oven such as

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that described may be utilized for the broiling of live lobsters,

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and that when it is done, lobsters may be broiled

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>in an extremely short time interval on the order of

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.479
<v Speaker 1>two minutes, as compared with the approximately eighteen minutes required

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>by convention broiling techniques. Uh, you know, it's that he's

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>just making, you know, the argument, you want to broil

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>some lobsters for dinner, do you want to do it

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen minutes or do you want to want to

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 1>do it in two minutes? But the main problem that

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>he's dealing with in this pattern relates to to a

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 1>means of preventing the lobster's tail from curling up underneath

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 1>its body. During the microwave and process, as this artificially

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>shields part of the lobster's body during the cooking process.

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, one of the things I know as a

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>cook is exactly the kind of seizing up that causes

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like tight curling of of like a shrimp or a

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>lobster tail or something like that. It's the same thing

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>when you see like a piece of chickens seizing up

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>or something, it's usually a pretty good sign that some

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>some dryness is taking place. And yeah, I guess that's

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>what he's trying to prevent here. And I don't know

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.439
<v Speaker 1>why this horrifies me so much, though, that the the

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>idea of cooking a live lobster in a microwave. Maybe

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the Grimlin's uh tie in, you know, the idea

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>doing like a live gremlin in there. But but it's

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous because certainly the cooking of laws inherently involves the

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 1>cooking of live lobsters. And perhaps, you know, perhaps perhaps

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>part of this is like this weird sort of background

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>bias against the microwave, uh, you know, you know, or

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.159
<v Speaker 1>or that's a sort of background myth making that we

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>we engage, uh. And when we think about the microwave,

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>but we'll come back to that later. But what this

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>says to me is that once he's invented this uh,

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Percy spencer is sort of in the microwave zone. Uh,

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 1>he's in the radar range zone. And he's just working

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the zone for a while, right, Like he's figuring out,

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>here's every different kind of microwave thing I can do. Yeah.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>For instance, he obtained a patent in for a microwave

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>coffee brewing pot. And note this is not a coffee

0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>pot that goes into a microwave o. And this is

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a coffee pot that contains a magnetron that contains a

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>microwave component to heat the water. It's so funny because

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>part of what we're doing in these episodes is trying

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to dispel unfounded microwave fears. And yet my reaction to

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 1>this at a gut level is that's wrong. Well, I mean,

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>on one level, it's also certain certainly something we're not

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.959
<v Speaker 1>used to, like we're used to we have the microwave there, uh,

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and if we heat the water for coffee in the microwave,

0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>that's one thing, sure, But the yeah, the idea of

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>having the magnetron in the coffee, but itself seems strange.

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I could totally do that. I mean at home,

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I I usually do pour over coffee. Uh, and yeah,

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>why not heat the water up in the microwave? I

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>usually do on the stovetop. But maybe the microwave is

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>more efficient. I should look into that. All right. On

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that note, we're gonna take one more break, and when

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>we come back we will begin getting into the legacy

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 1>of the microwave. Alright, we're back, so it's time to

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>talk a bit about the the legacy of the microwave oven.

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>We know that that Percy Spencer has been moving around

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.560
<v Speaker 1>in the microwave zone for a while. He's been working

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the radar range to broil lobsters to make coffee. But so,

0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>how does the microwave oven take off? How is it

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>first received, and what happens with the Raytheon company. Well,

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously we already touched on the fact that it initially

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>comes out and the technology is large and expensive, and

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>from there it's about you know, engineering it and getting

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>it smaller, getting it more affordable, uh, you know, scaling

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>up production, getting it out there. But but also you

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>have to there's a certain amount of marketing that has

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to take place as well. Uh. But then also you

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>have to come back to the fact that Raytheon, of

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>course was originally not an appliance company. So what they

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>did is they acquired a Manner Refrigeration and then in

0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty seven, the Raytheon acquired a Manner refrigeration company,

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>developed the first microwave that sold for under five hundred dollars,

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>which I believe we alluded to that one earlier. So

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 1>this was suddenly you had a microwave that you could

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>normal people could conceivably purchase and put in their home. Um,

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, this is this is I couldn't help

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>but notice sixty seven two, this is such an interesting

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>year for change in American culture. You know, it's the

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Summer of love. Um. The Mogue synthesizer, uh was you know,

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>introduced its first production model, and then here's the microwave

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>as well coming along. You might say that a Mogue

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 1>synthesizer is to a cello what the microwave is to

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the conventional oven. Yeah yeah, to a certain extent. Um

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>we say that as lovers of synthesizers. Yeah yeah. But

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>then also like the synthesizer, it's also kind of a

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>challenge of figuring out what to do with the synthesizer, Like,

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>what's the best use of this new technology. Does it

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>completely replace the piano? No, it does not. It creates

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>something new that you must, you know, figure out how

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to properly utilize exactly right. And as we alluded to earlier,

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that's both of our attitudes toward the microwave.

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 1>It's not that it's a replacement for the oven. It's

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>also not inferior. It is just a different kind of

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>tool useful for different jobs. So nineteen seventies hit And

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of course also nineteen seventy is the year that that

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Percy Spencer dies, so he doesn't really live long enough

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>to see the real ascension of the microwave oven. But

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 1>but but yeah, this is the decade of the microwaves ascension.

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>The microwave went from being in just ten percent of

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>American households in nineteen seventy to rivaling conventional oven sales

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty, and they were apparently out selling gas

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>ranges by ninety five. Uh. These stats, by the way,

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>are via Jesse Capolt, Kelsey Dean, Madison White, and Helen Selita.

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>This is at history of Tech dot uh McClerkin dot

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>org slash microwave is a great microwave information site there

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>with lots of lots of well sided, well sourced material.

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>But they point out that a lot of this, uh,

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>this expansion, that a lot of this acceptance of the

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>microwave was due to heavy promotion through home and electronics

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>magazines with a huge emphasis on science education to combat

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>any concerns over this idea that a microwave was some

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of a you know, a dangerous hotbed of radiation

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that would hurt us. Yeah, and you can still see

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>those concerns coming through even in the terminology we use,

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>like the idea of nu king food in the microwave, yeah,

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>which you know, we're not nuking anything, but we still

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>use that terminology. So more evidence that we see of

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>microwave ascendency in the nineties seventies, uh is the number

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>of microwave cookbooks that we see which featured a lot

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of less than amazing sounding recipes. Yeah. There's if you

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:33.959
<v Speaker 1>want to see some examples of this, look up paste magazines.

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Thirty horrifying recipes from a seventies microwave cookbook Uh, they're

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>pretty Uh, they're pretty apolloing. Most of these entries involved

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 1>big cuts of meat or some manner of recipe that

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>seems adapted from a traditional cookbook like a Betty Crocker

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>or something talking gourmet meals made from scratch cooked in

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 1>your microwave oven. Uh, and the results were reportedly less

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>than awesome. Now, one thing you might be wondering is like,

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, why is it that food cooked in

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:06.240
<v Speaker 1>a microwave oven is in some cases not as good

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 1>as food cooked in a conventional oven. And I would argue,

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the main reasons is going to

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 1>be how the exterior of the food is affected by

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>microwave cooking. So, first of all, I think, especially if

0:34:18.280 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you're cooking like a big cut of meat, something that

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>would normally happen in the oven, if you cook it

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:24.799
<v Speaker 1>at the right temperature and all that is, you get

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.800
<v Speaker 1>nice browning on the outside through the my ard reaction,

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>which is a very important reaction in food chemistry. It

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:35.280
<v Speaker 1>creates a lot of the sort of meaty, roasty flavors

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that we like in all kinds of foods, not just meats.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's they're in toast. Yeah, we we mentioned

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>it on our episode about toast and bread. Yeah, and

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>so the my ard reaction is generally what makes the

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>exterior of most cooked browned foods appealing. It makes it

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>look good, it makes it smell good, and makes it

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>taste good, and you just don't really get that in

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the microwave because of the way it cooks. Another thing, though,

0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 1>is that I would guess in some cases at least

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>the microwave as a tendency to dry out, especially the

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>outer layers of food by just steaming off all of

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the water molecules from it. So you get outer layers

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:12.879
<v Speaker 1>that might be extremely dry and tough, but not browned. Yeah,

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just by and large, this whole line of thinking,

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>this sort of you know, gourmet meals from scratch in

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>your microwave. Um, this is is basically falls into this

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.719
<v Speaker 1>idea of of more like replacement the year this is

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the only oven you need. You don't need your conventional

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>oven anymore because you have the microwave oven. But of

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:30.960
<v Speaker 1>course we we have to compare this to how we

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>actually tend to use the microwave today, now that the

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.439
<v Speaker 1>technology has you know, somewhat settled and found its place

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 1>in our culture, we use them to heat up microwave

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 1>compatible prepackaged meals. For instance, we use them to reheat leftovers,

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and we use them to heat portions of recipes, you know,

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>melt your butter, heats and water defrosting is another major usage. Uh.

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And so in many cases we're using it along with

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>our other heating methods to cook a meal as well.

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Like I was showing my son in our own kitchen

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that we have, uh, we have three different means of

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>of of heating food. We have the microwave using uh

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>uh you know, the magnetron. We have a gas powered stove,

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 1>and then we also have the toaster oven with its

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, electric heating element. So it's interesting how we'll

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 1>sometimes use all three of these in the preparation of

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a single meal. But the prepackaged microwave meals I think

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>are a big one as well. And I was reading

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about this. According to BBC's The Rise

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:33.720
<v Speaker 1>of the ready Meal by Denise Winterman two thousand thirteen article,

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 1>companies like Swanson, before the microwave took hold, had already

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:43.240
<v Speaker 1>influenced our tastes with ready made meals. The TV dinner

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>was already here yeah, you get those. You you of

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>course would make those in a conventional oven. And I

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 1>think I recall, if I'm not wrong, that those originally

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>came about mainly because like turkey, uh, agricultural concerns, We're

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out ways to sell turkey outside of

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>thanks Giving, and they're like, we can make turkey TV

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<v Speaker 1>dinners to sell people to heat up in their ovens

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<v Speaker 1>without cooking. Yeah, and and also I guess we should

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<v Speaker 1>point out you had the stovetop popcorn as well. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So so basically we're already down with the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>fast prepackaged meals, right, no preparation, just pop it in

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<v Speaker 1>and said in a microwave just makes it that much easier. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a logical extension of the TV dinner concept.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact, I think it's exactly the way in

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<v Speaker 1>which it's an extension of that that sometimes I think

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<v Speaker 1>the microwave is used as a kind of metaphor or

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<v Speaker 1>shorthand for I don't know, for something about consumerism. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you detect this, Yeah, yeah, it is. It

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<v Speaker 1>is often the place where we simply heat up a

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<v Speaker 1>prepackaged meal. It is the convenience aspect of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps I don't know, I feel like maybe when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, maybe there were fewer healthy options for

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<v Speaker 1>microwave meals. Um. Nowadays you can get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, quite good food that you can heat

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<v Speaker 1>up in the microwave. Um or you can do I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can use a microwave to steam broccoli. You can

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<v Speaker 1>use microwave all kinds of stuff. Oh yeah, yeah, outside

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<v Speaker 1>of just prepackaged meals, you can you can certainly do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot with it that is not cooking a whole turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, not to not to imply that that

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<v Speaker 1>it's just there's a you know, it's either use it

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<v Speaker 1>to try and cook everything or use it to cook

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 1>prepackaged meals. There's a it's a it's a very useful

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<v Speaker 1>tool in the modern kitchen. It is a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the modern kitchen. Look at us here rehabilitating the image

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<v Speaker 1>of the microwave, well, I mean, on one hand, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it still has to deal with with image issues. There's

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<v Speaker 1>still still, as we'll discuss in the next episode, encounter

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<v Speaker 1>people spreading untruths about the microwave, slandering the microwave, and

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, like the microwave is everywhere. The

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<v Speaker 1>microwave is one. The microwave is nearly ubiquitous. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really need our help, right, um, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the microwave is is waiting for you in your local

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<v Speaker 1>gas station, ready for you to to heat up some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of prepackaged nonsense that you just purchased. Well, let's

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