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Speaker 1: feeling of, yeah, you know, whatever else has happened here.

439
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: You know, we lost to Challa, of course, but we

440
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 1: also lost a lot of citizens of this nation, and

441
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: nothing will ever be the same. He's like, I want

442
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: to leave each movie with and nothing will be the same?

443
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I mean?

444
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: Like, and I think that feeling has maybe not been

445
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: as strong as those feelings in phases one, two, three,

446
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: where you left each movie going, oh fuck, like Tony

447
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: and Steve really hate each other now, oh fuck?

448
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Steve literally beat up Tony because his best

449
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: friend killed his parents.

450
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he just like beat the show of.

451
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: Him on the concrete fool.

452
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: That still blows my mind when I think about that sequence, Like,

453
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Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. I will say I did

454
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: feel like I felt like Eternals offered that up and I'm.

455
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: Sorry just saying that. I'm just saying those are fucking celestials.

456
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 3: I will never be the same.

457
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: But like, but again, I understand that as much as

458
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed that movie, it didn't leave general audiences with

459
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: the scope and scale of what that change was, and

460
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: that in itself means that it wasn't as effective even

461
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 2: if I loved it and felt like things had changed.

462
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: And that to me stands as a great example of

463
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: letting somebody do something in a completely separate space that

464
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: can be connected but doesn't have to be connected.

465
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Speaker 3: But I totally agree with you.

466
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Speaker 2: I think that that is something that any studio would

467
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: struggle with when you're thirty movies in, you know, with

468
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: multiple TV shows, et cetera. So yeah, I think it's

469
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 2: going to be very interesting to see, but I think

470
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: basically the interconnectivity will always be there. I would love

471
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: to see more kind of stand alone, own ish stories,

472
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: and I'd love to see them learn some stakes lessons

473
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: from James Gunn, because I think you're right, he knows

474
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: how to tell those intimate stories. Even on this hugely

475
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: cosmic scale, but who knows. I mean, this is a

476
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: this is gonna be a wild time for the MCU

477
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: for the next couple of years. I mean, the fantastic

478
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: formant to be coming into the MCU next year, which

479
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: just feels like.

480
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: It would change everything.

481
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean really crazy. So I mean I look forward

482
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Speaker 1: to a world in which the MCU and DC are

483
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: growing movie for movie and forcing each other to raise

484
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: their level. That's what it is in the comic space,

485
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: and I'm hoping we get there in the movie space.

486
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Speaker 1: Up the next more Mailbag.

487
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: We're back in the X ray vision crypt with more

488
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: mail bag questions, and now we're moving on to the

489
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Speaker 2: galaxy Far far Away. I love the galaxy far far

490
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: love that galaxy. I'd go there even if it's far

491
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: far away. Okay, So Hayden asks rank. This is a

492
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: really good question. This is a tough one question.

493
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: I've been thinking about this getting it ready.

494
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: Rank your top five Star Wars projects since the Disney acquisition,

495
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: Film series, games, comics, shorts, etc.

496
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Speaker 3: Can be any of those. What's your favorite? Okay, I'm

497
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: going to go.

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00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: The Disney acquisition was twenty twelve correct rebels Oh Rogue

499
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: one and or yep, Star Wars on Marvel Comics Jason

500
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: Aaron and then like Kuran Gillan, the Darth Vader run.

501
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: Oh man, that run is so fucking good.

502
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole thing Sewel Gillan Park now it goes.

503
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: It's interesting because Gillan's happens chronologically after Suels despite time, right,

504
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: but that is it just fleshes out the characters so well,

505
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 1: and it's some of the best times I've had with

506
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Speaker 1: Star Wars.

507
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: So those are my answers. Are that's really good?

508
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: I am going to say I am a sequel trilogy, stanky,

509
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm putting Force Awakens at five. I love

510
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: Force Awakens like I delightful. It was one of my

511
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: best cinema experiences. I saw at midnight in the cinema

512
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: where I used to run a cocktail bar, and it

513
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: was just like the wildest read like the exact kind

514
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: of screening you want where everyone when when they pull

515
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: off the sheet and it's the falcon like, everybody screams.

516
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: I love that, So I'll start with that for you

517
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: know what, that Darth Vader comic is really there for me.

518
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna jump on that one that

519
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 2: was on my list, especially because it was one of

520
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: the few comics where when I was reading it, just

521
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: every week that I got the issue, I wanted to

522
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: talk to someone about what.

523
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: Was going on.

524
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: It's great and obviously like doctor Afra, like getting to

525
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 2: meet these incredible new characters like the evil R two

526
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: D two and C three po.

527
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Speaker 3: Who I loved.

528
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go and or at three because I think

529
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: you're right. I think it's like a masterpiece. And then

530
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: for me this is kind of a cheat. Apologies, but

531
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go for it.

532
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: I think the.

533
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Speaker 2: High Republic line is a high point. Oh yeah, So

534
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: the especially the new stuff. I have a wonderful friend Wren,

535
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: and they really encourage me to get back into it

536
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: with this kind of like second phase and there those

537
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: books are just absolutely they blow me away every time.

538
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: If you're a fan of Charles Saul, he was a

539
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: big part of establishing all of this. There's great comic books.

540
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: There's incredible middle grade comics. I know we have a

541
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: lot of people who have kids who love this kind

542
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: of stuff, but the core books, like at the moment

543
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: i'm reading it's path of Deceit, and then the newest

544
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: one is Cataclysm, and they are just like out there

545
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: sci fi storytelling that happens to be in this Star

546
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: Wars world.

547
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: So I just cannot I cannot hype it enough.

548
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: And then coming in controversial as always number one for me,

549
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: last Jedi Banger, unbelievable, it is there. I would never

550
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: take it back. I think that movie is amazing.

551
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: Come on, I think it's so good.

552
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: I love it.

553
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: It's so good.

554
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: Honestly, you know, hate to give to an evil corporation,

555
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: but like, it has not been the dire situation that

556
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: I think many fans worried about since Disney took over Lucasfilm,

557
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, in that merge. I feel like there's actually

558
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: been It's hard to pick five things because there's actually

559
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: been an incredible amount of brilliant creative ingenuity in those

560
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: spaces we didn't even talk about, like visions or you know,

561
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: all these other different fun things.

562
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: Books.

563
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff we didn't we didn't

564
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: talk about. I mean, we can talk about the video games.

565
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: I also believe that the on balance, the Disney acquisition

566
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Speaker 1: has been this era has been good for Star Wars.

567
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: It's been a great era for Star Wars period. Yeah,

568
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: Russell asks of all the characters in Star Wars, who

569
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Speaker 1: would you be most and least concerned about if they

570
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: happen upon the one ring on the side of the road.

571
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: For me, Chopper getting his hands on the watering, I'm.

572
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: Saying, for the galaxy?

573
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: Really very quickly, what do you think?

574
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: Now?

575
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because I've been thinking about it.

576
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: Can a droid wield the ring? I?

577
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: Can a droid wield the ring? I don't know. Could

578
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: chop A find a way to wield the ring? Yes?

579
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: I think the Galaxy's most powerful mass matter, I suppose

580
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: I suppose it.

581
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: Wonders is it just about sentience?

582
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: Because in that case, I would say most of the

583
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: droids have enough sentience that they could be impacted.

584
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: But is it also about having a soul or something?

585
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: Also about Is it also about like metal on flesh,

586
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Or like because do you

587
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: have to have an organic body to do this? I

588
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: don't think sourn like. Honestly, you'd be a mind blower

589
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: for Sourn if you ever brought a droid to him,

590
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: he'd be like, holy.

591
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: Shit, and then he'd be making well I think the

592
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: biggest worry is that in this hypothetical scenario he would

593
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: essentially create a one ring that was chopper, you know,

594
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: a shiny gold chopper that anytime it goes near people

595
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: wields the power of the ring because they can forge

596
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: this incredible metal.

597
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: So surely they would be horribly inspired.

598
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: I just think it took. It was such a It

599
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: took so much effort to make the ring, and it's

600
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: so fucking small. I don't know that he could make

601
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: a chopper level droid out of like that was one

602
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: ring material.

603
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: I think it would just take. It would just be

604
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: too long, too big of.

605
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: A project for him. So other than chopper, do you

606
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: have a least.

607
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: About least worried about? To me, it would just be

608
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: like any e Wok. I think they're relatively chill wicked.

609
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: Let's say they're eating folks down there, I will say them,

610
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: I will say, if we're talking about powerful people in

611
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: the galaxy, yeah, look up the root Return of the

612
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: Jedi went the Ewoks.

613
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 3: They are powerful, they can defeat things.

614
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 2: But I would say generally, I don't feel like they're

615
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: particularly like greedy or jealous. I don't know if they

616
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: have that within them. I think they just kind of

617
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: want to chill in the forest. So I'd probably be

618
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: least concerned about an Ewok most concerned.

619
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Speaker 3: I mean, really just any of them. There's so many.

620
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: I wouldn't give it to a Jedi. I wouldn't give

621
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: it to a Scyth. I wouldn't.

622
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: I feel like the one Ring is essentially going to

623
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: amplify any kind of dark side tendencies that you have,

624
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: so it's a lose lose game.

625
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm just like imagining a Ewok putting ring on

626
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: and then you know, like glad reel this explosion of

627
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: and a really like powerful and dreadful voice going yup.

628
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: Now, and then the musical sequence. Yeah, they're just hits

629
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: with these really pounding drums.

630
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I go the other way. I actually think that if

631
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: Palpatine had the ring, it would be really I would

632
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: it would be fascinating because I think it would be

633
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: a I think it would be I think they would.

634
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: I think it would be Sourn versus Palpatine because of

635
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: the I think Palpatine is not going to be able

636
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 1: to let go of the Sith philosophy of the move

637
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: too right. He's going to the way He's going to

638
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: perceive it is here is this ring of power. It

639
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: is linked inextricably to this immensely powerful being. I need

640
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: to sever it from him. I like it like you would.

641
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: Use Palpatine's sith philosophies to destroy Say, well, I.

642
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: Don't know who would win, but I just know they

643
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: would come in the I think it would bring them

644
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: in the conflict. And then I think you're like, I

645
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: think if they Yeah, I think if he. I think

646
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: if Palpatine discovered the ring, it would bring him in

647
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: like irrevocably, into into conflict with with Souron. And I

648
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: think if Darth found the ring, it would also kind

649
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: of be the same thing, because I think Palpatine would

650
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: perceive this as like someone's trying to steal my accolyte,

651
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Like this other person is trying to steal my accolyte.

652
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: And I think that too would bring Palpatine and Souron

653
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: into conflicts. So I think, weirdly.

654
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: It would.

655
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: I kind of would want to see what would happen.

656
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: You're like, You're like, which one would I watch on

657
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: a paper view the galay?

658
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Speaker 1: Like, I want to see what happens if Palpatine finds

659
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: the ring because I'll tell you he's not going to

660
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: He will not He would not simply accept that he

661
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: has this immensely powerful weapon that is linked to this

662
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: immensely powerful being that is also affecting his mind and

663
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: his thoughts and is trying to seduce him. Like, he

664
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: would not want He would not want that. He'd want

665
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: the weapon without any entanglements. And Sauron, meanwhile, would be like, no,

666
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: like you, I'm going to make you, you know, my

667
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: greatest fucking nasgul. You know, Like that's the thing about

668
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: Saren is he's so laser focused on you know, why

669
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: is there the eye of Saren? I love that metaphor

670
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: because he can only look at one thing at one time,

671
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: Like he's only ever thinking about one thing. So if

672
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: he's ever if he comes in a conflict with Palpatine,

673
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: it's just going to be that. Like you would argue

674
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: that Middle Earth would probably benefit from Souron's laser focus

675
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: being something other than conquering Middle Earth. Yeah, and who

676
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: would I be? And then like like I would be

677
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: actually really worried about an e walk getting it. I

678
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: would give it's a Palpatine.

679
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: But you know what I don't, I don't disagree ewoks

680
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: de chaoic, but I love that.

681
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: I don't I think like anyone from a more like

682
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: from a less worldly culture.

683
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 3: I don't know.

684
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: I think ewoks can be power mad too. I'm very

685
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: worried about I would worry about it personally. I would

686
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: worry about it. I'd worry about almost anybody.

687
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would worry about anyone too.

688
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: I just I'm trying to think if there's anyone who

689
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: I feel like is vaguely neutral.

690
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: I feel like Chruebacka is like one of the chillest people.

691
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 3: That would be fun. What would it be interested?

692
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: That's what interesting?

693
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: I think, Like what would they do with it? Yeah?

694
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: Should we do with it? Maybe he'd just chill and

695
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't do anything. I think that's kind of your dream scenario.

696
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: He'd win its space chess.

697
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, that's it. That's all he wants.

698
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: That's all he wants to do is like constantly win it.

699
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 3: He's just.

700
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: He's like banging the most like minimal credits, and everyone's like, oh,

701
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: he's doing really well.

702
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: As soon as he starts to.

703
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: Lose, he puts the ring on.

704
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: The hollow nasgules, like yeah, choreosks I feel like this

705
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: is the kind of question we all dream about.

706
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: If you could see.

707
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: Slash read I like this definition there because some of

708
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: them obviously you can't really be touching him up. But

709
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: if you could see or read an original copy of

710
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: any comic book ever, what would it be?

711
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: I can't pick just one i'd want to. I obviously

712
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: I've seen.

713
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: The digital and trade versions, the reprint versions of you know,

714
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: all the classic comics that I'm interested, But I would

715
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: love to hold like I would. I mean, I'd love

716
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: to hold a giant sized X Men number one.

717
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: And how crazy is that?

718
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: Read it that that's one of them now, right, because

719
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: that's definitely up there for me.

720
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: But that doesn't feel like it's highly graded. Oh, giant

721
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: size on number one definitely grand plus.

722
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. I I've been lucky enough.

723
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: I went to the DC Archives, so I have seen

724
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: some very old comics.

725
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 3: But I would, I would love to. If we're talking about.

726
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: Hypothetical dream world, I mean, obviously I want to flip

727
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: through like an Action Comics number one, just so you

728
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: can say that would be cool that you did it

729
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,959
Speaker 2: right right, like the Detective Comics twenty seven, Like there's

730
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: the big the big big Boys. Yeah, yeah, Do you

731
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: own any of your like favorite key issue kind of Pig.

732
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: Talked about this before.

733
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Speaker 1: I have I have my first comic that I ever bought

734
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: with my own money. X Men two twelve. It's part

735
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: of the mute mess. Oh yeah, Wolverine for saber Tooth

736
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: round one, it says on the on the cover, I

737
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: have the follow up issue to thirteen, which is the

738
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: actual you know, the to twelve like teases the fight

739
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: with saber Tooth and Wolverine, but it doesn't really happen.

740
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: And then to thirteen they go fucking all.

741
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: Out all uh and it's so cool.

742
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: I have, Uh, I have X Men uh oh to

743
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: future past the fucking that's the good stuff.

744
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: I I love that I have the Yeah, I've I've

745
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: got that.

746
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: I've got one of my other favorites, you know, Jean

747
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: Gray on the cover with with like Cyclops, you know

748
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: those uncanny issues are like the best. One of my

749
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: favorites that I own, which is not even really that

750
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: expensive but I always want it, is the the Cyclops

751
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: Storm Fight issue.

752
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: The cover. I love that one. For me. The bigest

753
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: white whale that I ever got was Love.

754
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: I have Love and Rockets number one, the magazine size

755
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: fantagraphics one. I got that years ago for like no

756
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: money in Brighton. But before that, the Hernandez Bros. They

757
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: released like a zine version that was like a self

758
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: published comic, and I managed I'd always wanted one, and

759
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: I managed to buy one off Gilbert at San Diego,

760
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: I think because he'd found him and his wife Carol

761
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: had found like a box of them in their garage,

762
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: and it was like, and so that is like the

763
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: one that that one made it pretty much any other

764
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: comic I would like to have it, but that was

765
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: the That was the one where I was like, if

766
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: I want a piece of comics history, it's that. But

767
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 2: I mean, I would like invite extra vision to any

768
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: of those archives.

769
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: We would love to see.

770
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: And enjoy any old comic because it's just magic.

771
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: I would also love to hold, even though I've read

772
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: it and it's not that great.

773
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 3: The early Avengers run.

774
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: The early Marvel's run. You know, any whether it's X

775
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: Men or Avengers, stuff is a little lumpy and it's weird.

776
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: That said, what is it? Avengers four or five? Captain

777
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,959
Speaker 1: America lives again. They sought him out and he joined

778
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: the Avengers and it's so it's Captain America iron Man

779
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: with the horned helmet. Oh yeah, yeah, hank him as

780
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: Giant Man and the Wasp and also sub Mariners in

781
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: the issue. That was a fun one. Yeah, I would

782
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: love to leave through that.

783
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: I would love to see. I think you're right, like

784
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: there's something so magical. Yeah, obviously amazing Fantasy fifteen, Like

785
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 2: who doesn't want that?

786
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: I would love that.

787
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: The Galactus trilogy, you know, the old Fantastic Four stuff

788
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: from sixty six, which was like issues forty eight to fifty,

789
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: very good place to start with any Fantastic Four stuff,

790
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: But those issues, I love them so much. Like if

791
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: I was gonna if I got rich and I wanted

792
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: to buy something that Kirby had worked on and that

793
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: was my like White Whale, and I would actually bother

794
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: to buy like a good graded issue that I would

795
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: immediately break out of the CGC box because I don't

796
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: agree with grading on a moral level, but I would

797
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: Those are the ones that I'd like drop the big

798
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: money on.

799
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 3: That's so fucking good.

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00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: Next, Cameron asks, this is an a I think an

801
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: important and interesting I love this question. What do you

802
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: do with your comics after reading them, some might want

803
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: to reroot in the future, but I can't keep them

804
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 1: all any suggestions. Yeah, I I do this very irregularly,

805
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: but I will call down like I'll be like, Okay,

806
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: here's the runs that I really love, here's the ones

807
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: that I'm less that I care less about, and I'll

808
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: just give them away. Yeah. Do I have friends that

809
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: have kids? Do I give them to my nephew? I

810
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: could donate them.

811
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: To the library.

812
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: Yep, there's a million things. You give them to your

813
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: comic shop and they'll just resell them. Like, there's a

814
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: million things you could do with them. But it basically

815
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: for me comes down to I just give them away.

816
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

817
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 2: I think that is honestly one of the greatest joys

818
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 2: as a comic book fan. Look, you can sell in

819
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: your comics, your back issues, even if you have ones

820
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 2: that are worth like five or ten cents. Probably most

821
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: shops will do you a good deal if you take

822
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: them a box, because you're giving them stock that they

823
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: can sell back issue stock. But yeah, I read a

824
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: lot of comics. I keep a lot of comics. I

825
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: am no longer a completionist, Like if I love a

826
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: contemporary run of comics. I am far less likely to

827
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: buy every single issue unless like the art is really

828
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: beautiful and I really want them in that format. I

829
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: buy a lot of old comics, weird dollarbing comics, old

830
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: reprints of manga stuff like that. That's what brings me

831
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: a lot of joy, and that ends up with lots

832
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 2: of culling. For example, I bought a really huge collection

833
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: of Powerpack from my local comics shop.

834
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: Because it's just a weird thing. It was like team

835
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 3: created by a woman and their kids comics. But those

836
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: will be ones where I'm probably gonna take them to

837
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: the library.

838
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: Popa got into something, they got into legitimately legitimate, wild

839
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: wild stuff that the characters that are in these issues,

840
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: like it's like issue like three to twenty five or something.

841
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: There are some wild characters.

842
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of great teams like Louise Simonson, who

843
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: I love, who created them with Jim Brigman. There's a

844
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: bunch of great wheezy issues. But that's something where I'll

845
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: probably select like five of the twenty that I bought

846
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: to keep after I've read them all a few times.

847
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 2: And then yeah, libraries are great charity shops like thrift stores.

848
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: Because they always sell really well in there and they

849
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: kind of can make some good money for the you know,

850
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: the whatever cause they're supporting. But yeah, giving them always

851
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: it's great. I don't know how these are in other

852
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: places where it's not always as hot, but LA area

853
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: has a lot of little free libraries where people just

854
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: put up libraries outside their house or a restaurant or whatever,

855
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: and you can put comics in there. So I do

856
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: that quite a lot. Yeah, I think giving them away

857
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: is just like a really great joy And if you

858
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: need it a little bit of extra cash, you can

859
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: sell in your comics in a kind of job lot

860
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: to your local comic bookstore and you'll be helping them

861
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: and they'll usually give you a great deal.

862
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: X Ray Vision will be back, and we're back, Michael Asks.

863
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 1: I've been reading Marvel comics for years, but I've never

864
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: been able to break into the Fantastic four side of things.

865
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: It always felt so dense. I never knew where to start.

866
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: Do you have any suggestions on where to start or

867
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: how to break into that area of Marvel?

868
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 3: Rosie?

869
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: So I did just reference a very good place to start,

870
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: which is easy to collect. There is many collections of it.

871
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: You can get trades, you can read it on Marvel Unlimited.

872
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: That is the Galactus Trilogy, which is the three issues

873
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 2: that introduced kind of that cosmic aspect of the Fantastic Four,

874
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: which was in Fantastic Four.

875
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 3: The early days. I believe that the issues were I

876
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: literally just said them.

877
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: But of course now I remember, yes, forty eight to fifty,

878
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna find those issues in a back

879
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: issue being because there worth thousands and thousands of dollars.

880
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 2: But there are many collections. I will also say, go

881
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: for a trade of any comic is a great place

882
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 2: to start.

883
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: There are so many good.

884
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: Fantastic Four stories, and a lot of times Marvel will

885
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 2: do an omnibus.

886
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 3: If you like the art, just pick it up. You're

887
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: never gonna.

888
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: I should not say that. Many people do this, and

889
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: I have so much respect for them. It is unlikely

890
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: that you're ever gonna read any comic arc at this

891
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: point of a character from the first ever issue that

892
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: came out now eighty.

893
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 3: Years ago to now.

894
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: That's not the way that comics, luckily for all of us,

895
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: have been made. There are many different great stories, other

896
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 2: really incredible stories that you know you can check into.

897
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: Is there is a Stanley and Jack Kirby did over

898
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: one hundred issues consecutive on The Fantastic Four, so any

899
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: of that stuff is good. One of the stories that

900
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: people really loves, I love the Galactus trilogy. But one

901
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: of the stories people really love is this Man, This Monster,

902
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 2: This Monster, which is really about you know, Ben Grimm

903
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: and the Thing and you have so many icons there,

904
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: Joe Sinner and Artie Simmes, such a.

905
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 3: Stage for Ben Grimm is a tragic character. Is that

906
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 3: literally marvel grounded stuff that really gets people excited.

907
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: Another one that I really like is I really like

908
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: anything what Simonson did, but he often he's him and

909
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: him and Wheezy are like one of my they're my

910
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: all time favorite, some of my old time favorite comment creators.

911
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: He did one called Into the Time Stream, which was

912
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: part after Avengers.

913
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: He ended up.

914
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: Moving to Fantastic for him and because he'd never gotten

915
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: to put for you, didn't sue on the Avengers like

916
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: he wanted to. And there's a lot of Kang's a

917
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 2: TV's a storyline. Yeah yeah, yeah, Big Ultimate Nullifier can

918
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 2: the TVA and it's just what it is, like brilliant.

919
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 2: He's a great cartoonist. He's a great writer, So I

920
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: think that's really fun. I'm not the hugest Ultimates fan

921
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 2: in general in hindsight, as I find it all a

922
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: bit dark, but I do know a lot of people

923
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: love Ultimate Fantastic Four.

924
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: It's good.

925
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: If I'll say this, it's good if you want a

926
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: very definite starting point. That said, it's like, uh.

927
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 3: Read Richards is evil. There's no other way to put it.

928
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's kind of evil, and so that will.

929
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: Color your may color your perception of the came.

930
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: Oh there's also like a weird Grant Morrison Jay Lee

931
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: Fantastic four book one, two, three, four, it's very visible z,

932
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: very mettery. So I just think the good thing is

933
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: with these characters that have been around for like eighty

934
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: five years, you know, like a really long time at

935
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: this point, there's gonna be something for everyone. But I

936
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: do think Fantastic four is one of the few Marvel

937
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: heroes where I really do think you can find something

938
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: to love in the earliest stuff. Like you were saying before, Jason,

939
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 2: like a lot of that stuff can be kind of

940
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: clunky or like very racist, more so in DC, but

941
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: like the early Fantastic Four stuff that there really is interesting, cool, weird,

942
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: incredible sci fi shit there because that is what Jack

943
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: Kirby was best at. So you can really get some

944
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: very special stories there, and the joy of comics, a

945
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: lot of them are just too three issues long. So

946
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 2: if you have a Marvel Unlimited account, you can even

947
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: just search those titles, the Galactus Trilogy, stuff like that,

948
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: and it should recommend you those issues.

949
00:51:54,680 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said. I would add if

950
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: you're looking for contemporary entry points, you know Mark Wade's Run,

951
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: and then I would start there because that takes you

952
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: into Jonathan Hickman's run. But you could just start with

953
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: with Mark Wade's Run, which I think is like early

954
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: two thousands to mid two thousands and is a good

955
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: entry point with all the kind of weird stuff, weird

956
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: galactic stuff, family drama that happens within the kid Fantastic

957
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: for the kids. And then if you want something that's

958
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: kind of like adjacent but not the Fantastic Four is

959
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: ff by Matt Fraction and Mike and the wonderful Mike

960
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: Alred Zenie illustration style is always really really appealed to me,

961
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like an adjacent you know, it's

962
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: the Future foundation. So it's like an it's fantastic, were

963
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: adjacent and is really fun, And like Mike alread anything

964
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: he draw us, I'll.

965
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: Just yeah, anything, I will literally pick it up. Also,

966
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: I will just finally say adjacent stuff. Any Silver Surfer comic,

967
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: but especially like the Ron Limb Silver Surfer stuff from

968
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: the nineties is really really great, and Silver Surfer is

969
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: very fantastic for adjacent but not necessarily like really into

970
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: the FF. That's kind of how I got into Marvel.

971
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 2: The Marvel's First Family was really more through that Marvel

972
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: Cosmic era. So I think that's a great tip Jason.

973
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: You can find your ways in that aren't necessarily just

974
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: the Core four and then.

975
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: John Byrne run you know, if you want to go

976
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: back maybe and do something that's like maybe maybe it

977
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: feels like less. I'll do this sometimes where I'll just

978
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: like I'll pick an arc from the Silver Age or

979
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: something like that from the eighties or seventies because there's

980
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: just a less to keep track of, you know. Yeah,

981
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: it was just like less continuity back then, and so

982
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: the John and stuff is a good entry point and

983
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of fun changes, you know, like she

984
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: hulped joins the team. There's a lot of like fun

985
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: stuff during him.

986
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is worthwhile.

987
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the DCU. It's time for the DCU. We're moving,

988
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: We're moving universes. I I really love that this is

989
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: the singular Camilla asks the singular question about the DCU,

990
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: and I think right now, with the state of the DCU.

991
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 3: I think that's fair and I think that's good.

992
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: And she asks the kind of question that we absolutely

993
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: love to theorize about. Please know, studios steal our ideas

994
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: again WGA's on strike. Camilla asks, thinking about James Gunn's

995
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: statement regarding a potential Marvel DC crossover in a future Oh,

996
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 2: the crowd goes mad. What would be your dream crossover

997
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: in case this could ever potentially happen?

998
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: Do you have a pitch? Do you have an in

999
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 3: the pocket pitch that you keep there wait in in

1000
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: case James gun and Kevin Fage ever give you the call?

1001
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard, right, because there have been several crossover.

1002
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 3: Yes, in the comics.

1003
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: There is an established its precedent of this happening.

1004
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 4: It's and the stories are always like, not great, but

1005
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 4: it's like that fun and teams.

1006
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the movies would be a cash grab too. I

1007
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 1: think you would have.

1008
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 3: To just like.

1009
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: The heroes are ostensibly teaming up because like, of course

1010
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: they'd fight a little bit, but that's like not that fun.

1011
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 3: Because Benja's bessus Justice League. But the fight is really

1012
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: between that.

1013
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 1: Because nobody can really win, Like it's just you can't

1014
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: actually have anybody win. So I think the thing to

1015
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: do is you have the villain's team up to, like

1016
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, so it's like it's like that it was

1017
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: a dark side, Yes, exactly together.

1018
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: It's especially fun if you do it with characters that

1019
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 3: like which one was real? I need?

1020
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: This is so you get the villain. I think you

1021
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: make it a villain team up that that is the

1022
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: motivating factor for the heroes teaming up. That's what I

1023
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: would pitch. I would make it villain centric. I'd start

1024
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: with the villains and then work to the heroes because

1025
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: I think it makes the heroes. Yeah, that's that's how

1026
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 1: I would do it. And it would be like something

1027
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: like you know, I guess it would have to be

1028
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: like the destruction of some entire universe something. It would

1029
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: have to the stakes would have to because it is

1030
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: really in the comics. It is such a cash grab it.

1031
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, like, and you sometimes get brilliant

1032
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: awest like George Perez, what can these things?

1033
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: You know? So mine?

1034
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: This is and and this here is why I will

1035
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: likely never work in these industries in any serious way,

1036
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: because if I did actually get asked to pitch on this,

1037
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: I would absolutely go there and be like, let's do

1038
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: a swamp thing and Marvels giant sized man thing crossover,

1039
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: and like nobody wants.

1040
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: That, and I would be like, but I want it.

1041
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 2: I think you could do something really cool with the

1042
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: weird I think you sum up the biggest problem. You

1043
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: can't really have Captain America and Superman fight each other one.

1044
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: They can't put up way too many questions.

1045
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: Superman is a god.

1046
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: The mythology aspects of the DC heroes ostensibly make them

1047
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: way more overpowered than any of the Marvel heroes. No matter,

1048
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: even if you haven't a mega level mutant. It it

1049
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: becomes very messy, very quickly. And I think that you

1050
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 2: would really need to have a long term, like two

1051
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 2: year long story arc to cut that kind of chop

1052
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: that all up. So I think the weird stuff is

1053
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: going to be the best stuff. I love your villain call.

1054
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: I think that would be great. I'd love to see

1055
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: like the Joker and Magneto and how those interact. That

1056
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 2: would be fucking crazy right, Like would be cool.

1057
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 3: I think that's the kind of stuff.

1058
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: So I think for me it would be like I

1059
00:57:55,640 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: would love to see DC's occult characters like swamp Thing

1060
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: and John Constantine teaming up with like the Marvel cosmic characters,

1061
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: because the reality is Marvel doesn't have as deep tradition

1062
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: of occult storytelling in the like who are you going

1063
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: to do, Doctor Druid? Like nobody even knows who that

1064
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: is apart from me, Like, so yeah, I would be

1065
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: going for the weird shit. I want to see swamp

1066
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: Thing and man Thing team up. I also still blows

1067
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: my mind that Marvel did like a big contemporary man

1068
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: Thing in an official.

1069
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: Way before DC did. It's so cheeky.

1070
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 2: I love the DC swamp Thing show. Everybody knows it.

1071
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, that would be mine. I'd go for the

1072
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: weird stuff because I think you're right. To really make

1073
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: it hit, you have to go deep cut. You have

1074
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: to bring together characters that complement each other, that have

1075
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: this kind of Metatech's Dark Side and Thanos. That's so

1076
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: much fun these kind of Jim Stalin, Yeah, it's so much.

1077
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: It would just there's so much fun to be had

1078
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: with it. And I think that while we know that

1079
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: when we do get it, it will be Justice League

1080
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: versus the Avengers, i'd love a world where that wasn't

1081
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: the first one.

1082
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: Now I said that no one can really win. They

1083
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: do kind of win, like you know, when nay More

1084
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: fought Aquaman, I think Aquaman won.

1085
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: Like there were winners.

1086
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like but but it was also it

1087
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: felt very like you.

1088
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 3: Win one, then do I win? Exactly?

1089
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: You win one, then I win one, then you and

1090
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: and there was really no kind of there's no juice

1091
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: to it. So you want them to fight like a

1092
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: really good collection of villains, and honestly, like as you said,

1093
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: the DC and Marvel villains teaming up, that's the thing

1094
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: that we don't really that's.

1095
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 3: Kind of never been done.

1096
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: You know, it would be so much especially if you

1097
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: did it as if you had it more of like

1098
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: a phase of the movies, so you could really team

1099
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 2: up weird characters together who worked really well together and

1100
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 2: kind of really get to explore what makes them tick,

1101
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 2: and how how somebody like Lex Luthor who fights against

1102
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: Superman differs from you know, someone in the Marvel universe

1103
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: like Kingpin, and how he goes against the Devil. I

1104
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: would love to see those interactions. I mean, it's the

1105
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: dream sandbox, and I do think that's probably a large

1106
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 2: part of what DC was interested in James coming on

1107
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: because he already has that established connection with Marvel.

1108
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 3: If these movies keep.

1109
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: Moving further away from the billion dollar mark, we could

1110
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: be seeing a Marvel DC crossover sooner rather than later.

1111
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: I mean, it would be a cash bonanza.

1112
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: It would be the first three billion dollar movie if

1113
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 2: they did it right. Let's be real like that shit

1114
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: would be in cinemas longer than Avatar, Joe My God,

1115
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: James Cameron's JLA Versus Versus the Avengers.

1116
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: WHOA what a time?

1117
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: A asks? I can sometimes be burnt out from surfing

1118
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: the waves of the big ip content ocean. Oh can't

1119
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: We all would love to hear what we think are

1120
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: some of the best standalone original story genre films and

1121
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: shows that may have gotten lost in all this plethora

1122
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: in the last few years. I need a little bit

1123
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: more appreciation.

1124
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned this book before on a previous pod, but

1125
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: I loved Christopher Buelman's The black Ton Thief.

1126
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 3: Oh ma'am our discod went crazy for her. It's so good.

1127
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: After you recommend that, it's.

1128
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: So good good, and you know, the world building's fantastic.

1129
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: It's just the right level of world building where it

1130
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: informs and enriches the story. And the story itself is

1131
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: heartbreaking and adventurous and swashbuckling. Are really great, And it

1132
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: concerns a thief who is working off a debt to

1133
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: the Thieves Guild. The Thieves Guild is a one of

1134
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: the very very powerful kind of organizations in this world,

1135
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: along with the Magicians Guild, and in fact might be

1136
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: more powerful than many kings and rulers in this world, suspect.

1137
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: And so this thief is, because of.

1138
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: The debt that he has to work off, is given

1139
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: a mission that takes all kinds of twists and turns.

1140
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 1: And this all takes place against the backdrop of several

1141
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: devastating wars against against these like orc like beings that

1142
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: have essentially devastated various kingdoms in the world. And it's

1143
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 1: just really really good. It's really really fun, really really

1144
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: well written. I started reading his other story Between Two Fires,

1145
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: which is more of like a medieval kind of like

1146
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: true crime story. But that's the one that immediately jumps

1147
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: to mind. Oh and if you're if we're talking about

1148
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: like TV shows and stuff, The Peripheral, which was on

1149
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime was super undertalked about and I really enjoyed it.

1150
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: For All Mankind is a great, great show on Apple

1151
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: TV Plus that is like, you know, explores a world

1152
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: in which the Soviets get to the Moon before the

1153
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: US and all the twists and turns that takes, you know,

1154
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: like the essential like the log line is basically like

1155
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: how does Starfleet start?

1156
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: Right?

1157
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: That's what what the show is about.

1158
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 3: And it's really great. Those would be the ones that

1159
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 3: immediately come to mind. What about what About You?

1160
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: That is so One of my favorite movies from the

1161
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: last few years is this really incredible Canadian zombie movie

1162
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: called Blood Quantum by indigenous direct called Jeff Barnaby, who

1163
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: sadly passed away this year. Are super bummed out because

1164
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 2: he's a really great guy and just incredible filmmaker. But

1165
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: it is set on a reservation and the essential short

1166
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: pitch is like what if this native community was immune

1167
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: and everybody outside was not. And it is brutal, it's bloody,

1168
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 2: it's incredible practical effects, it's super thoughtful. I think it's

1169
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: like one of the best horror movies over the last

1170
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: ten years. It's so brilliant. I believe it's probably on Shudder.

1171
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 2: I think that was where I saw it. I think

1172
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 2: it's from twenty nineteen. Just such a joy. Jeff had

1173
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: another really great movie too, which you can see called

1174
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: Rhymes for Young Gruls. Those were the two movies he

1175
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 2: got to make. And Blood Quantum I just think is

1176
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: so great and I think it will go down in

1177
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 2: history as like a.

1178
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 3: Really really brilliant film.

1179
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so badass, and it's really cool, and it's

1180
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 2: short and it's snappy, and it's a great gory horror movie,

1181
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: if that's what you love. But it has a lot

1182
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: of interesting shit to say too, like all the best

1183
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: horror I loved. If we're talking about TV, I loved

1184
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 2: Poker Face obviously very much in the tradition of Colombo

1185
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 2: and those kind of you know, the fugitive, those kind

1186
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: of story of the week shows. But I thought it

1187
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: was really exciting and interesting. They bought in great guest cast.

1188
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: Every episode is super fun. Natasha Leone is great in

1189
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: the main role. Just a really fun watch. It didn't

1190
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 2: necessarily hit in the same I'm a in case you

1191
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: didn't know. I really love a certain kind of storytelling

1192
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 2: that kind of has a radical imagination outside of the police.

1193
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 2: And even something like Colombo, which was so deeply inspired by,

1194
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: has its own strange moral compass about the wealthy and

1195
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 2: who Colombo goes after, and it's very interesting to kind

1196
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: of pick into. I didn't feel like poke Face necessarily

1197
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: had that, but it did have a ton of really

1198
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: badass cast, an incredible set of murder mysteries. Ryan Johnson

1199
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: and Natasha were behind it, and obviously Ryan's like killing

1200
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 2: it with glass Onion, which I loved, and all those

1201
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: kind of murder mystery things that he has done before,

1202
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: like Brick. So it's just really fun. Just some of

1203
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 2: the best made TV that I think has come out

1204
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: in the last year. So both of those very high

1205
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: on my list. Totally different vibes, but just really enjoyable.

1206
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: A couple more genre things. You know, as I read

1207
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: a lot, so Patrick Hoffman is one of my favorite

1208
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: crime authors to emerge in recent years. His third novel,

1209
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: Clean Hands, is out and it is If you liked

1210
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: Michael Clayton, you will like this novel that kind of

1211
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: delves into counterintelligence, but from a private angle, like corporate

1212
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: private intelligence, the lengths that corporate powers and the wealthy

1213
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: will go to protect their business dealings.

1214
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 3: What happens to spies when they are no longer working

1215
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: for the government.

1216
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: Who do they sell their who do they sell their

1217
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: skills too? And it's all kind of tied up in

1218
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: this very very sleek, very very brutal crime suspense narrative

1219
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: that is really fun. I love his style of writing.

1220
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Not necessarily a genre book, but definitely part

1221
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: of the theme of like wealth and.

1222
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: The way that.

1223
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: The perspective of powerful men kind of dominates the public conversation.

1224
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: Is a book called Trust by her Nan Diez. It's

1225
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 1: three books in one kind of It begins with a

1226
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 1: book that is a book within a book. It's this

1227
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: purported to be this biography of a rich industrialist capitalist guy.

1228
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: Right then comes the second part of the book, so

1229
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: that's like the first hundred The second part of the

1230
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: book is the autobiography of the actual capitalist industrialist.

1231
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 3: He says this book that this.

1232
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 1: Other person put out about me. I hate that fucking book.

1233
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: I set the record straight, and so like the second

1234
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: part is this industrialist like setting the record straight. And

1235
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: then the third part of it is from the perspective

1236
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: of the writer, the industrialist hired to ghostwrite his story.

1237
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: Is all the truth of it, all the things that

1238
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: got hidden away, the relationship that this capitalist had with

1239
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 1: his wife that is definitely not.

1240
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 3: What was presented to the public.

1241
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 1: And it just kind of like unveils itself very very

1242
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: steadily and with gathering power. Uh. And is a book

1243
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: that I've like not really been able to get out

1244
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: of my head since reading it, really really.

1245
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 3: And I just won the Putt Surprize.

1246
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: Did it just win the And it just so listen,

1247
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,839
Speaker 1: if you're a tults are Head, if you're a Putts

1248
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: are Heads, a completionist, then uh then uh then you

1249
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: will like this book. This was recommended to me by

1250
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: Greta Johnson, who I co host the House of the

1251
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: Dragon podcast with. And it's really really just fucking great.

1252
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: Knocked me out. It's just a book that really really

1253
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: really knocked me out. As you're playing each other in

1254
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: a three verse three basketball game, the winner gets a

1255
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: Greek island with their brother in law. What succession characters

1256
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: are you picking as your other two teammates. We know

1257
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: they'll play dirty or Marvel characters. If you think that'd

1258
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: be more interesting entertaining, well let's go with succession.

1259
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you want to do a draft? Do you

1260
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 3: want to start first?

1261
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: To you draft?

1262
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 3: You get a player and then I'll play a player. Yeah,

1263
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 3: my first player.

1264
01:09:52,400 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: He's tall, he's dangerous. Oh interesting you, I'm switching it out.

1265
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: I'll take he is what is he six ' three

1266
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: in real life? Six four?

1267
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 3: It's a nice collection of baseball basketball trainers.

1268
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: Alexander scarsguard height six foot four, absolutely like so real

1269
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: NBA height. That's a great pick. I okay, So with

1270
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: the first pick in the succession draft, I am going

1271
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: to pick greg the Egg, who is played by Nicholas Braun,

1272
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 1: who is I believe like six ' seven.

1273
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: Yes, he's very, very very tall.

1274
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: So we got the tall guys off off the board.

1275
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 3: Now I will say.

1276
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: I scars guard, though he's given up like three inches.

1277
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: If they're gonna play in the pit, these guys are

1278
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna be guarding each other. Scars Guard is obviously much

1279
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: beef here much beef.

1280
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 3: He's very a much.

1281
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: Stronger individual than the kind of willowy Nicholas Braun, who

1282
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: just kind of get thrown around like a like a

1283
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: stalk of wheat.

1284
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 2: No, Nicholas Braun is a good pick, though, because well,

1285
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 2: Greg is a good pick, I should say, because Greg's

1286
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: just gonna do whatever you tell him.

1287
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, Greg, go set that pick.

1288
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I don't really I don't really want.

1289
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: To set the pick, but okay, and you just be

1290
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: like Greg fucking go set the pick, and you just

1291
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: you would have to do it. I mean that's true

1292
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: of almost any of these characters. They're all like, with

1293
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: the exception of I guess the Roys in general, like

1294
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,879
Speaker 1: all the non Roys are very obsequious, even Tom.

1295
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 2: Even Mass and to a point because Shiv has been

1296
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: kind of puppet monstering him, yes throughout, So I think

1297
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: you're right, the Roys are the only ones kind of

1298
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 2: stubborn enough.

1299
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Lucas Matson and Nicholas Braun are off the board.

1300
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 5: Your next pick, oh manum, my next pick would be

1301
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 5: My next pick would be Roman Roy.

1302
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: He is incredibly sneaky. He knows how to rap fuck

1303
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 2: and you know what, every soft and a short. You know,

1304
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,759
Speaker 2: Kim comes into the game every soft and and changes

1305
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: it out.

1306
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 3: Maybe it's gonna be Roman Roy.

1307
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: Also involved, like in the sports space, already a sports

1308
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: team owner, so he understands the understands.

1309
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 3: The game, you know, you know what it's like to

1310
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 3: be a working man.

1311
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he understands professional sports and the culture therein. Okay,

1312
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: for my next pick, I'm gonna go Brother for brother,

1313
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Ken because Ken has

1314
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 1: the shoes.

1315
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 2: Madison's trying to have the shoes, but Ken has the shoes.

1316
01:12:50,760 --> 01:13:00,919
Speaker 1: Ken has all manner of like of bespoke, like seaker drops.

1317
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 3: This guy has so many sneakers. I remember that.

1318
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: Was It season one where he like goes to meet

1319
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 1: the women who created the app and then he throws

1320
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: his sneakers.

1321
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:15,560
Speaker 3: Like out the window. My god, the sneakers.

1322
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: I have so many Ken, and not only I'm gonna

1323
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: Ken because I feel like I need a guy who

1324
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: is not afraid to shoot. And Ken will take the shop.

1325
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: He will take the shows a lot. It would also shoot.

1326
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: He will shoot, and it would also psych me out

1327
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: because I hate him, so it would.

1328
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 3: Work on that level, it would work.

1329
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: I would not be I would not be at top

1330
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,480
Speaker 2: basketball for him as I usually am.

1331
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 3: I think it's on the field.

1332
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: I also think of you, Mike, Ken and Roman and

1333
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: just have them like their trash talk as they're going

1334
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: back and forth, would be so good.

1335
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: That would be ten out of ten, like biggest hit

1336
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: on broadcast TV. If you just played that, I mean

1337
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: you could find it your.

1338
01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: A second pick in the succession NBA draft.

1339
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 3: Man, this is so tough, you know what. He would

1340
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 3: be pretty useless.

1341
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 2: But I'm going back to picking based solely on hype.

1342
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 2: I'm going for Tom. He'd kind of do whatever we wanted.

1343
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: He's on the bench, Like, could he come in and

1344
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 2: do something at the end. Probably not, but he would

1345
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: Just Tom is a survivor. He sticks it out no

1346
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 2: matter what. He is a striver as shifts so insulting

1347
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,839
Speaker 2: we call him. I don't see that as an insult

1348
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 2: in this case, I'd I'd go for Tom.

1349
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 3: Tom mattis in a Roman is horrible. I would love

1350
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 3: to see it.

1351
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: For my third pick, I am picking the lady Caroline

1352
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:51,720
Speaker 1: Collingwood of your mother, the mother of Kendall Roman, and

1353
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: should because I need someone fucking mean in there.

1354
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 3: You need someone gonna tell that door you should not

1355
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 3: be a mother.

1356
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need someone just fucking vicious and mean to

1357
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: be like dirty where Ken's not gonna want to get

1358
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: his hands dirty. You know, Uh, Greg is soft, let's

1359
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: just be all about it, like Mattson will be absolutely

1360
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: killing this guy on the inside. He's you know, Greg's

1361
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: got more of a of a you know, a silky

1362
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: kind of.

1363
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 3: Like smooth game.

1364
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: I need somebody who's just gonna be throwing daggers. And

1365
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go with the lady Caroline Collingwood. She's

1366
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: also independently, like she doesn't need None of them need

1367
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: the money, but she doesn't need any of this in general.

1368
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: How often do you think she would foul out? I

1369
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 3: think she'd foul.

1370
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that we would really have

1371
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 1: to have significant leverage over her to get her to play.

1372
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: I think we'd have to probably hold out her like

1373
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: her steaks in the family trust that we're given over

1374
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: to her as kind of like an addendum to the

1375
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: original divorce settlement at the end of I think it

1376
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: was season three by by Logan. But I just think

1377
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: she's an X factor, and I think that she will

1378
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: really fuck with Roman. Yes, it would fuck with Roman's head.

1379
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 3: I like that.

1380
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: And furthermore, I think if you could somehow like get

1381
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 1: her to cook food for the other team, for your team,

1382
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: I think that would even be because as we as

1383
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:38,839
Speaker 1: we saw with the fucking absolutely lethally caustic England scenes

1384
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 1: from what was it season two or three where you

1385
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: first meet her, she's like cooking the crazy like quail

1386
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: legs and but like bad It's.

1387
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 3: Just the craziest stuff.

1388
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: So I'm that's my pick, Lady Caroline Collingwood, your next pick.

1389
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 2: My pick is gonna be call because nobody wants the island.

1390
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 3: More than so. He's gonna do he wants.

1391
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: He's gonna do whatever he can to get the island

1392
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 2: with the brother in law, Like he doesn't know I'm

1393
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 2: keeping the island, but I'm gonna tell him he's got

1394
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 2: a chance and he's gonna do anything it takes.

1395
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: He will be coming out. People are gonna be going crazy.

1396
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 3: They won't believe it. It's gonna be like Lonnie Walker

1397
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, Like people are gonna be like, wha.

1398
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: He really wants to be remembered this is the car game.

1399
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 3: This is the game where Carl got the island.

1400
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so we've picked three. So it's us, it's basically

1401
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: us and like three others, and one of those will

1402
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 1: be a bench player. Should we pick a coach.

1403
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 3: Oh my god, please pick a coach. Okay, I will

1404
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 3: pick a coach. My coach.

1405
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 1: I am going to pick gil Evis, whoa politician, gil

1406
01:17:54,880 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: Evis succession version of Bernie Sanders gil Evis, because I

1407
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: think you need somebody in government with that gravitas to

1408
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 1: be able to like reach you know, you need the

1409
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: regulatory threat to get Ken to play the right way

1410
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: and do the right things. Same thing with Greg who

1411
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: you know who could forget how shaken Greg was when

1412
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: testifying for the Senate Select Committee when he's just like,

1413
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: if it must be said, then it is.

1414
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 3: I think he also says, no woman, no.

1415
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: Chrisier h Greg And so I think that that's the

1416
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: person that would have that kind of like authority to

1417
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: really command my team, other than Lady Caroline Collingwood, who's

1418
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: English and wouldn't yeas shit, but I think the rest

1419
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: of them would listen.

1420
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 3: Who would you be your coach? Mine would be Jerry

1421
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 3: that's great.

1422
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: I mean, one because she's one of the few competent

1423
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: people in the entire show. Two because Rayman is on

1424
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: my team, so if I want anything to get done,

1425
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 2: Jerry will be that. And three because Jerry is about

1426
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 2: to come into an immense amount of eye wateringly large

1427
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: financial security, so she's gonna have the time to commit

1428
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: herself to the team.

1429
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 3: I like it.

1430
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: I think that's great.

1431
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: Jess asks, with Tiers of the Kingdom coming out on

1432
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 2: May twelfth, the day that you may be listening to

1433
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: this podcast, what is your favorite installment of the Zelda

1434
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: series or just favorite Nintendo game of all time?

1435
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

1436
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: Wow, it is Breath of the Wild. Same and also

1437
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: Majora's Mask those two, but Breath of the Wild by

1438
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: far because of the sense of adventure and exploration and

1439
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 1: how just the feeling I first had like logging into

1440
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: the world and seeing how big it was and how

1441
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: little direction you're given. It's just walk in a direction,

1442
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: and very few games have given me that feeling of

1443
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: satisfaction just from walking around, just from exploring, like Eldon

1444
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: Ring kind of I did that recently. But Breath of

1445
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: the Whild for the adventure, the storytelling, the sheer amount

1446
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: of content in the game. You like, it's just the

1447
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: way it looks, the characters that you meet, the music, like,

1448
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: everything about it to me is fucking perfect. And that

1449
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 1: kind of cell shading ESK style is.

1450
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 3: It looks like you're watching an animated movie.

1451
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful to me. I just think it is.

1452
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: I think it's amazing. It's probably my favorite Nintendo game

1453
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: of all time, along with you know, I mean this

1454
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: is somewhat cheating with the Mario kard series, also the

1455
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: h and also the Metroid series, and also the Caslovenias.

1456
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 3: But Nintendo so many good games, I mean, blow your mind,

1457
01:20:59,280 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: there's so many.

1458
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you?

1459
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 3: Yes, so I would say I'm the same definitely.

1460
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: Like when I was a kid, I kind of struggled

1461
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 2: Zelda and Pokemon both were quite hard for my brain

1462
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: to understand, and that old school visuals and the layout

1463
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 2: of the game. But the Majora's Mask three DS remake

1464
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 2: was up there for me for a very long time

1465
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: as the best seller game and also one of my

1466
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: favorite games. But Breath of the World is definitely my favorite.

1467
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 3: I love the.

1468
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 2: Freewheeling nature of it. I love the way that you

1469
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: feel that you're living in the world.

1470
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: I love cooking.

1471
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: I always talk about this, but a Breath of the Wild,

1472
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: like finishing it is nearly impossible for me because I

1473
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 2: just spent all my time cooking and riding my horse like.

1474
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: I love that shit. I love how you can just

1475
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 3: fight things and shoot things and.

1476
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: Do all kinds of fun monster hunting. I absolutely love

1477
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: Breath of the Wild. I think it's the best Selda game.

1478
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 2: I can't wait to play the new one, but I

1479
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:56,759
Speaker 2: just don't see a world where.

1480
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 3: I tops it.

1481
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 2: My other favorite Nintendo game definitely, I love Mario Kart.

1482
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 2: I play Mariocart probably more than any other video games.

1483
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 3: Animal Crossing as well.

1484
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: For me.

1485
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 3: Crossing also a perfect game.

1486
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so good, both New Leaf and New Horizons

1487
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 2: I adored. Most influential game on a Nintendo for me

1488
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 2: was probably Donkey Kong Country.

1489
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 3: I had a second last Super Nintendo when.

1490
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 2: I was a kid, and I played Donkey Kong Country

1491
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: like so much. I can play that game, probably blindfolded

1492
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 2: all the way through. The same with that with Crash

1493
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 2: Bandicoot from the PlayStation, the original Crash Bandicoot.

1494
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: You know, if we're talking, like the most addicted i've

1495
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: ever felt about a game on Nintendo, then it's probably

1496
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: a Golden Eye on the Nintendo City.

1497
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that game is so so sick.

1498
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: I did not have a console during the time that

1499
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: I just didn't have access to video game at that

1500
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: particular time. And I've told this story before, but like

1501
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: I legitimately had a friend that I did not care

1502
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: for personally, who I who I had a relationship with

1503
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: simply because he had Nintendo sixty four at GoldenEye and

1504
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 1: I wanted to play GoldenEye. That was the other Like

1505
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 1: I didn't like this guy, but I pretended I liked

1506
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 1: him because I needed to play GoldenEye. And so that's

1507
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: the furthest I've ever like, I just even to this day,

1508
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 1: Like the the the music when you boot that game up,

1509
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 1: it has a Pavlovian effect, like the goosebumps go up

1510
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: on my on my arm, like running around the facility

1511
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 1: level in the events, like shooting the guy in the stall,

1512
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: like all of this stuff, playing a short round in

1513
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: multip and split screen multiplayer, getting in arguments with friends

1514
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 1: because like you're looking at my screen, like all of

1515
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: that stuff is like was just so so so fun

1516
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: and I think not one of my favorite games, but

1517
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: when it was current, probably the most as into a

1518
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: game as I've ever been.

1519
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 3: GoldenEye.

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Speaker 1: I was so into it, probably because I just couldn't

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Speaker 1: play it whenever I wanted to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you have a Switch Online account, they

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Speaker 2: actually recently did the n sixty four addition, so you

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Speaker 2: can play GoldenEye. And also they have the Snares and

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Speaker 2: the NAZ and I play Donkey Kong Country on there

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 1: Still, thank you so much for your questions. We sorry

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Speaker 1: we couldn't get to them all, but we'll try to

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Speaker 1: answer them in some other format, maybe on the discord

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Speaker 1: or somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: Up next, nerd.

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Speaker 2: Out Ye Mini spoiler warning, spoiler spoiler, but like a

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Speaker 2: mini sized one, like a gull of as travel sized one.

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Speaker 2: This nudout contains spoilers for Guardians of the Galaxy volume three.

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Speaker 2: In today's that out where you tell us what you love,

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Speaker 2: am why, or a theory that you're excited to share.

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Speaker 2: Evan does the latter, sharing a theory on Guardians of

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Speaker 2: the Galaxy volume three.

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Speaker 1: Evan writes Herosi and Jason I was thinking about the

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Speaker 1: stinger at the end of Guardians three and how it

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Speaker 1: states that star Lord will return but does not necessarily

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Speaker 1: mean that it is Peter. Do you guys think it's

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Speaker 1: possible or likely the studio can introduce a new Guardian's

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Speaker 1: Team with another character taking up the mantle of star Lord.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it makes me think of one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite Guardian's rosters when Kate Pride was leading the team

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Speaker 1: as star Lord. Yes, said Captain Missouri or something. Would

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Speaker 1: love to know what you guys think. All the best, Evan,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's likely.

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Speaker 3: Actually I felt like that too.

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Speaker 2: Like the further away I got from this stinger, the

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01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 2: more I felt like this idea of the legendary star

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01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: Lord would return makes it feel like it's more of

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Speaker 2: a mantle, because you could say Peter Quill would return.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to say that, I would you know

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Speaker 2: where X Men fans here, Kate Pride fans. She's had

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Speaker 2: a lot of great story arcs in recent years. I

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Speaker 2: would love to see that. I believe they have already

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Speaker 2: peaked with T'charlie Staralord, who sadly you know we won't

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Speaker 2: be able to get in live action, but I think

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Speaker 2: the idea of a different star Lord could be really

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Speaker 2: really cool.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be I think that would be

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Speaker 1: super cool. And and you know, as you mentioned, there

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01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: have been a lot of Terran characters to go into

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Speaker 1: space and run with the Guardians. Certainly in recent years,

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Speaker 1: Tony Stark had a notable run up there, Kate Pride,

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Speaker 1: I do I think it's going to be someone else

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Speaker 1: that's going to be I think it's gonna be someone

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Speaker 1: else that takes up the mantle of Star Wars.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's probably right. Do you have a favorite,

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Speaker 3: like pick that you would pick out the characters who

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Speaker 3: were here MC.

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Speaker 2: Not like based on the comics or like just if

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Speaker 2: you were going to pick a character, who would you

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Speaker 2: want to see take on that mantle?

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Speaker 3: Who are doing it? And at what about? I think

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Speaker 3: Bucky would be good. That would be so interesting.

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Speaker 1: You'd have some fun with the arm they've both been through,

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Speaker 1: they've had they have similar histories, right, Yeah, and I

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01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: think they could bond over that. That said, is it

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01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: time for a human maybe? This is also doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that if you are Star Loard you're leading the team.

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Speaker 1: I think it is Rockets team.

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Speaker 3: I think it's Rockets team.

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Speaker 2: I think Starlold may be more of a rogue space

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Speaker 2: hero kind of on their own missions. Who checks him

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Speaker 2: with the the Guardians rather than you know.

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Speaker 3: And also we didn't see Pete's.

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Speaker 2: Helmet in the new movie, so somebody could find that

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Speaker 2: in on.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere, you know, in his desk drawer.

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Speaker 2: I believe James Gunn said it was placed. So I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think we could really see some cool stuff bene that.

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Speaker 1: My second, my backup pick would be the Symbiote. I

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Speaker 1: think the Symbiote also has been into.

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Speaker 3: Space, love that Garian's galaxy.

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Speaker 1: And I think is in world and it would be

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Speaker 1: fun to watch the Symbio like explore their cosmic history.

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Speaker 3: Where does this? Where do I come from?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: What am I doing here?

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Speaker 1: That would be a fun adventure. Ten out of ten

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Speaker 1: would watch your picks.

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Speaker 3: Ah, my picks.

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01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: Currently this is kind this kind of a cheat because

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01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: they're not in the MCU, but I feel like they're

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01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 2: so close to being into it.

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Speaker 3: I would love to see like a beta ra Bell

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Speaker 3: star lord, you know, like a cool alien cosmic star lord.

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Speaker 3: I think that.

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Speaker 2: Realistically, it feels like we'd be seeing a character that

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Speaker 2: we already are very established with in that space a

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Speaker 2: Valkyrie star Lord could be cool. I would like to

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Speaker 2: see that. You know, she's kind of tired of the

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Speaker 2: bureaucratic nature of it all, so she takes that star

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Speaker 2: Lord Nebula. Actually, I think if I was doing a

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Speaker 2: odds on bets, I think I could see a world

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01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: when Nebula takes on that mantle and really gets a

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Speaker 2: hero arc. That would be very cool to see, especially

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Speaker 2: with her rad new arm. Yeah, I would love this question.

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Speaker 2: Evan has made me very happy. I would love to

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Speaker 2: dream of a world where it is no longer Peter

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01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,240
Speaker 2: Quill and he stays at home with his granddad and

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01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 2: does the lawn mowing or whatever else, and we get

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01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,799
Speaker 2: to see other characters take on that mantle.

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Speaker 3: I think that would be so cool. Thanks Evan.

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Speaker 1: If you have series of passions you want to share,

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Speaker 1: Well that's it for us. Rosie and he plugs.

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Speaker 2: You can find me Rosie marks at letterbox and Instagram.

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Speaker 2: My Instagram stories are all about WGA strike. You support

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Speaker 2: those writers. None of the stuff we talk about sis

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, twice a week.

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Speaker 1: I'm also going to plug the WGA strike. Because of

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Speaker 1: the strike that we're on, writers members of the WGA,

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Speaker 1: like myself aren't promoting any of the projects that they have.

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Speaker 1: So if you're wondering why I'm not promoting any of

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Speaker 1: the projects that I have coming up, it's because of this,

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Speaker 1: and it's an important everybody right now who is on

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Speaker 1: strike is sacrificing something. We're not the people that were

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Speaker 1: associated with Premo on the show we wrote on Chai Serano,

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Speaker 1: not going to the premiere. We would love to be

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Speaker 1: able to say, hey, watch this thing at a date

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Speaker 1: that I'm not going to mention, but we're not doing

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Speaker 1: that because it's important that everybody knows that we're all

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Speaker 1: in this. There are writers who are who just got

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Speaker 1: their first gigs and now we went on strike and

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Speaker 1: they are her all the way up the chain. Everybody

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Speaker 1: is giving up something, and so just support the writers

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Speaker 1: who are really getting who are getting a tough deal

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01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 1: getting squeezed in this economy as many of us are,

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Speaker 1: even as ceo pay skyrockets.

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Speaker 3: You know you can.

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Speaker 1: David Zaslav made two hundred and eighty some odd million

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Speaker 1: dollars in his first moves creative moves were to shelve

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Speaker 1: a bunch of projects and fire a bunch of people,

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Speaker 1: and for that he was richly rewarded. And I and

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Speaker 1: you know many of the other CEOs are the same.

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Speaker 1: All the writers are asking for is two percent of

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Speaker 1: the profits as raised. They're not asking for some massive

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Speaker 1: amount of money, just two percent, which comes out to

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Speaker 1: less than you know, the CEO pay for the eight

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Speaker 1: of the major studios. So that's it. Support the writers.

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Speaker 1: Catch the next episode of X ray Vision on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: and Jason.

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Speaker 3: Five star ratings five star right five five fine, we

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Speaker 1: I love, love, love both of you. I listen at

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Speaker 1: out of nowhere. People think I'm crazy, but I'm trying

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Speaker 1: the vision.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for this wonderful pod. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Show is produced by Chris Lord and Sal Rubin and

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Speaker 1: executive produced by me Jason. Concepts You and Our Editing

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Speaker 1: next time, mm hmm