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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for

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Speaker 1: the players, by the players. Here is your host, four

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Speaker 1: teen year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer A. Nius Williams. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast. I'm A Nius Williams.

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Speaker 1: We're hosting our podcast series remotely during this COVID nineteen crisis.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that is important for anyone be

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Speaker 1: at a player, legend are just someone else at home

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Speaker 1: during this time, is staying active. Our guest today is

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Speaker 1: NFL legend La Charles Bentley, who has created a virtual

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Speaker 1: home workout video series that are available online as part

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Way to Play series. Welcome back, La

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Speaker 1: Charles Nis. Thank you for having me a reallyier pre

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Speaker 1: say that. Well, the first thing I'd like to ask

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Speaker 1: what these videos. If people are able to get to

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Speaker 1: it and be active with these virtual videos, not only

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Speaker 1: the current players that you work with, but also people

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Speaker 1: at home, if they take key to your videos, pay

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Speaker 1: attention to them with Charles, the question I would have

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Speaker 1: does that mean they are able to uh deform their

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Speaker 1: bodies into something or what I would call like a

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Speaker 1: Bentley that fancy car? About that it might turn into

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Speaker 1: a kid, but I don't know about a Bentley. Uh well,

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Speaker 1: I think what these what these videos, what they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do is at least get people, as you mentioned, and

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Speaker 1: get your back moving and get your back active. And

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Speaker 1: even for those people that uh people being the fans,

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Speaker 1: parents that are going a bit stir crazy and you

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Speaker 1: want to just kind of get out here and move

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Speaker 1: your body around a little bit, these videos will help

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Speaker 1: them as well. The server tremendous purpose in there, and

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Speaker 1: they're lives during this current climate there we're in, so

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Speaker 1: to speak. But they they're supplementary. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: something that is serving a need that the world has

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Speaker 1: at this point in time, and at some point in

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Speaker 1: time we get back to some level of normalcy people

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Speaker 1: get back into the weight room. But as of right now,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a great opportunity to get people

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Speaker 1: moving or keep athletes moving. You know, one of the

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Speaker 1: things Charles, you're usually doing off season, you're usually training

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Speaker 1: NFL alignment anyway, a lot of them in person, but

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Speaker 1: also because of the virtual the videos that you've already done,

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Speaker 1: it's almost like literally you were set up already and

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Speaker 1: prepared for this global challenge. To train people. It just

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Speaker 1: so happen now it's not just office alignment. But with

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Speaker 1: these videos, what are you hoping people can get from them? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping the biggest thing is peace of mind, uh,

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Speaker 1: knowing that you are in a place where, yes, as

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Speaker 1: I said, the world is not exactly where we would

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Speaker 1: like it to be right now, but we will get

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Speaker 1: back to some level of normalcy. But right now, I

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Speaker 1: think it's just important for people to form a mental

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Speaker 1: health standpoint, especially just to get their bodies and minds

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Speaker 1: active and keep it going. Uh. And I think that

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Speaker 1: is really the focal point, and the opportunity that we're

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Speaker 1: trying to take advantage of is to serve a need,

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Speaker 1: and the need is yeah, people are stir crazy. People

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Speaker 1: don't have the opportunities and the luxuries that you know,

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Speaker 1: we're used to being afforded. But having an opportunity now,

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Speaker 1: that is invaluable. And hopefully, over a period of time,

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Speaker 1: as I said, the world will get back to the

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Speaker 1: continue to live our lives under the format that we're

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Speaker 1: accustomed to. But as of right now, there's a need

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Speaker 1: uh leave these videos, and this content serves that need

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Speaker 1: at a very high level. And I think another component

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Speaker 1: is this you see so much on social media, you know,

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Speaker 1: a bit of a slippery slope where you're not providing

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Speaker 1: true programming to individuals. So if I'm gonna show you

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Speaker 1: provide context to that, meaning some sort of roadmap is

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Speaker 1: so you've already described some of the content. Is there

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Speaker 1: and also, uh elaborate a little more what will people

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Speaker 1: And relative to football, the isommess my symmetric is the strain.

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Speaker 1: the bandit, and the dynamic. Now, typically in a weight

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Speaker 1: we're just simply replicating these movements of replicating the stimulus

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Speaker 1: again that is going to keep athletes ready, uh to

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Speaker 1: receive and deliver force when the time becomes appropriate. Once again,

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Speaker 1: I remember, one of the things you've implemented is what

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Speaker 1: freshman high school we didn't have at our schooled to

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Speaker 1: we've see in a lot of facilities. You were able

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Speaker 1: to do these videos look like it required very little

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Speaker 1: And this is why part of me feels that the

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Speaker 1: of relearning basic movement patterns. That's that's what it takes

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Speaker 1: a bit burdensome for individuals to to weed themselves through

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Speaker 1: what is the most appropriate way, what is the most

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Speaker 1: athlete ready to play this game can often become difficult

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Speaker 1: to understand and us again burnensome to week through. But

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Speaker 1: when you remove and you have to get back to

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Speaker 1: Now we get back to that innate human ability to thrive,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what these videos are gonna be

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Speaker 1: base ground level of where our game is truly playing at,

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Speaker 1: and that's through general fitness, and that's again getting the

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Speaker 1: high level if we take advantage of it fully. Last

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Speaker 1: let's talk about your philosophy during this time many you're

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Speaker 1: calling a crisis, and the word crisis has a dual meaning.

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Speaker 1: One part of it means danger, to other means opportunities.

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Speaker 1: When you talked about your injuries and the challenges and

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Speaker 1: adversity was going through, it seemed to have formed your

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Speaker 1: philosophy behind what you do, what you're training modules, and

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Speaker 1: tried to not have a general philosophy because I always

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Speaker 1: So I guess my philosophy is to stay fluid. Now,

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Speaker 1: that after it becomes infinitely easier to develop. So this

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Speaker 1: How are you encourage people to actually what kind of

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Speaker 1: in not waste time video games, not just waste time

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Speaker 1: watching Benjing on programs. Tell me about that. It's funny

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Speaker 1: you say that it's a whole I just instituted a

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