1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Don't we can't clear that song. Oh, I bet I 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: don't know how that works. We're gonna get sued. Yeah, 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: I think it's like two seconds. Uh, it's it's bars. 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: I want to say, Oh that makes sense? Sixteen measures. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: All right? Hey, Hey, how's it going everyone? Thanks for 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: tuning in. If you're listening to this podcast, you are 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: our crushed for the day. I'm Diana and I'm Eli. 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: We're so excited. We've got some really fun stories about 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: the Dating Game. Hey, their French, come listen. Well. Elien 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: and Diana got some stories to tell. There's no matchmaking, 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: a romantic tips. It's just about ridiculous relationships, a lover. 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: It might be any type of person at all, and 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: abstract cons that don't a concrete wall. But if there's 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: a story where the second clans ridiculous rolets. A production 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio The Dating Game aim if you're 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: unfamiliar with it, it was a huge show in the 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: sixties and seventies, even came back in the eighties. It's 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: come back in different iterations over the years. It's really 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: the precursor to even shows that we have today, like 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: The Bachelor or my favorite reality show I ever watched 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: first and only it was Flavor of Love. I miss Hoops, 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I did. I watched every episode of the first season 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: of that. I loved it, and then I never went 24 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: back to reality romance competition shows again. I tried, I 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: don't watch them, but I couldn't. It just they peaked 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: immediately with Flavor of Love. But the dating game was 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: this crazy thing that came out of the early sixties. 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: The creator, Chuck Barriss, he started the show in there 29 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: was a whole new kind of attitude about dating going 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: on in the early sixties. There was a book in 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two that came out called Sex and the 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Single Girl by Helen Gurley Brown, and yeah, it sparked 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: this whole attitude about casual dating and especially how women 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: could date without their being this looming cloud of marriage 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: over everything. It wasn't all about like I have to 36 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: date the guy that I'm going to marry a kind 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: of thing. Was just like, hey, people can date people. 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: We can have fun with this. This is what we 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: want to do. And if the book came out today 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: would be called Hot Girls Summer Our ho in season 41 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: That's what I was, you know, hoing around. They didn't 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: that wouldn't have flown in. They were feeling loose, but 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: not that loose. They were stepping into it. This was 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: a new world, it's a new time. So the dating 45 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: game was pitched. There is this idea for a new show. 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: The setup is that there's one person, either a man 47 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: or a woman. Uh, and then there's three members of 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: while in the dating game, I'm pretty sure it was 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: always the opposite sex. I'm pretty sure you could bet 50 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: on that. Yeah. So those three people would not and 51 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: the contestant would not see each other. The single contestant 52 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: would ask questions and the three other contestants would have 53 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: to answer them one by one, and then the single 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: person would pick one of them for their date. So, 55 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: with this whole new cultural lattitude, this idea about just 56 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: a simple date and it was kind of set up 57 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: where the woman was making the decision. And this was 58 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: seen as a major leage, progressive and cool and forward 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: thinking idea at the time. Sadie Hawkins dance. Yeah. Yeah, 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: Now if you watch the show, that's not the impression 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: that you're necessarily going to get because these dudes were 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: very often very creepy and this poor girl, is there 63 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: an option d none of the above, you know, and 64 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: there wasn't there. He had to pick some interesting winners 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: over the years. This was a new show. It was cheap. 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: It was a total alternative other game shows because they 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: weren't giving out cars and big, huge prizes. I mean 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: Jeopardy and Prices. Right, we're both airing at this time, 69 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: and this idea was like what are we gonna pay 70 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: for a date? And the audience loved watching it because 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: they love this looking for love idea. They want to 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: see if it works out. Everybody loves that. It was 73 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: a hit. Immediately takes off Chuck Barris. He comes up 74 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: with this idea to bring in celebrities, and some people 75 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: who came on the show were soon to be celebrities. 76 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: This was a good idea for exposure for them. Yeah, 77 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: they would like be actors. And they were specifically trying 78 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: to be noticed by going on the dating game and 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: being funny or being I don't know, zany or whatever. Yeah, 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: whatever their brand or sexy like whatever sex. You know, 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: they just wanted to get on camera and have people 82 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: noticed them, like check me out, I look good. Hire 83 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: me for other jobs. The draw of television not just 84 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: for celebrities, though other people thinking a different kind of 85 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: fame come on the show. A one famous episode of 86 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: the Dating Game in nineteen eight was with serial killer 87 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: Rodney Alcala. Super creepy. This guy already he had killed 88 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: two people in New York in nineteen seventy one and 89 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, and then in nineteen seventy eight he 90 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: goes on the Dating Game and in nineteen seventy nine 91 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: he killed five more people in California. They don't even 92 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: know how many people he killed in total, he admitted 93 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: to some I think I saw it was. It could 94 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: have been as high as thirty. I mean, what do 95 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: you want to bet? He went on the Dating Game 96 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: to like find Absolutely he did win by the way 97 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: he won the date? Yes, can you what's his? And 98 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: we have Bachelor number one is Derek from Wisconsin. He's 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: a wallpaper artist and he likes nachos. Hey, hey, everyone 100 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: who's going I love nachos? And Bachelor number two is 101 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: Rodney from California. He's a real overachiever. He's killed thirty 102 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: three women so far. Isn't that right? Rodney? What can 103 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: I say? I'm a motivated guy. You know my motto 104 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: has always been, if you do what you love, you 105 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: never work a day in your life. All Rodney, you 106 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: gotta watch this episode. It is out on YouTube. He's 107 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: so scary. He is a greedy guy. He's got dead eyes, legit, 108 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: and no surprise here the woman who selected him he won. 109 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: He was a little charming. Of course, he had it 110 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: on his side that the other two sucked. I'm just 111 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: about to say she didn't. She was one of those 112 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: that would have been like, I mean, can I go again? 113 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: Do you have three more in the back somewhere? Bring 114 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: out the next three more bachelors milling about that I 115 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: can interview instead. We surely you guys just have a 116 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: field full of these guys free range the bachelor pad, Yeah, paddock, 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: the bachelor paddock. That's the word I was. But unfortunately 118 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: bachelor Paddock was empty and she selected rod Me as 119 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: the winner. But quite possibly saving her own life, she 120 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: did not show up for the date. She got a 121 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: creepy vibe and didn't go smart lady, smart lady instincts kicking, 122 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: incredibly smart. He was like, here's a dozen red flags, 123 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: and she was like, no, thank you, thank you for 124 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: these dozen red flags. Blue bouquet of red flags. They 125 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: smell grade, but no, I'm going to throw them in 126 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: the trash and lock my doors and get a bunch 127 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: of security cameras. Not a fan. But it wasn't just 128 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: serial killers and idiots on the taking pain. There was 129 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: also a bunch of celebrity idiots harsh. I mean, over 130 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: the years the dating Game was on, it was many years. 131 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: You had David Cassidy, Cuba Gooding, Jr. Ron Howard. Michael 132 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: Jackson was a contestant on the show, which how do 133 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: you not know? Okay? Yea, how can you hear his 134 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: voice and go, that's Michael ja man behind the wall? Okay? Uh? 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Contestant number two is Michael He's a singer from a 136 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: large family. Why don't you introduce yourself? Michael? Hey? How 137 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: is she not like? Is that Michael Jackson off the wall? Uh? 138 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: You had Andy Kaufman, Peggy Lipton, John Ritter, Vincent Price 139 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: another one and vast Number two is Vincent from St. Louis, Missouri. 140 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: An actor. Say hi to I'm Vincent. Hello. You get 141 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: the idea and she's gonna be like, is that Vincent Price? 142 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: But among the craziest stories nineteen year Old Kramer himself. 143 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Michael Richards was a contestant. According to rancor dot com, 144 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: he answered all of his questions in an animated and 145 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: odd manner, including a long, incomprehensible rant about bees and 146 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: the Queen Bee saying hi and I love you pedal. Anyway, 147 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: he lost. Yeah, he was not picked, but one of 148 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: the crazier stories in ninety three, a young man who 149 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: had only been in this country for five years, he'd 150 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: only had one movie called Hercules and New York, Mr 151 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger, and he was the single bachelor trying to 152 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: find a date on the dating game. We did watch 153 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: his episode, and these are real quotes from this episode, 154 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: not jokes that we made up. Well, Arnold comes in 155 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: and he says, I've only been in this car plea 156 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: for a five years. He literally asks what does it 157 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: mean hanky panky and the and they all they try 158 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: to answer. One of the contestants is a playboy bunny. 159 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: That's right, She was a playboy bunny and she was 160 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: the one who was being asked. And I guess all 161 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: all of them, though, seemed to have an issue with 162 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: figuring out how to explain what hanky panky us without 163 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: being dirty, and so she just said, well, we're gonna 164 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: have to spend a little time with you, and they 165 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: they they all flubbed their way through this line. They 166 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: can't figure out how to say it at codestint number one, 167 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: because it's like when two people love each other very 168 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: much and they're attracted, Okay, sex, He's just like that 169 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: was just his an Austrian going, oh, America, you kind 170 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: of talk about sex, these sex pratens. I don't know 171 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: PRTs ends. I don't know how to do it. Don't 172 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: apologize here. They're so bad though, I can't help it. 173 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: This is part of the sort of veiled innuendo that 174 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: was always happening on The Dating Game. In fact, they 175 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: had a problem with this from the show first started 176 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen five. Chuck Barris did all these these tapings 177 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: of the first few episodes, and he said the men 178 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: and the women both were so grotesque and vulgar and 179 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: profane in all of their answers they couldn't air it. 180 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this wasn't even just innuendo. These were like this. 181 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: Their language was totally inappropriate for television. So he didn't 182 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: know what to do. He called one of his friends 183 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: who was an actor, and he said, you're going to 184 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: dress up like a detective. This guy put on a 185 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: raincoat and a fedora and he goes back into the 186 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: dressing room before the show and he tells everyone in there, Hey, 187 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: if you are too profane or obscene, or if any 188 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: of your innuendos are too easily decoded, it's an FCC 189 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: violation and you'll be fined and could get jail time. 190 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: And they never had a problem again, and it cleaned 191 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: up the whole show. They do toe the line a 192 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: little bit, but it's mostly like people stuttering to try 193 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: to explain to Arnold Schwartzenegger what hanky panky is. Well, 194 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: and they relaxed that overtime, didn't they Well, when the 195 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: show came back in the late seventies, going into the 196 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: eighties version of the show, it was a new show 197 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: runner and they actually pushed for it. They wanted more innuendo, 198 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: they wanted it to get raunchier. And it did. And 199 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: and you know what the show didn't do as well, Hey, 200 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: not not too much sex. No, it's done. These people 201 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: just aren't The problem is these people aren't clever. Well, 202 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: look at the look at the pool of people you're 203 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: choosing from. But the Dating Game, that's true, they're not 204 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: that funny. Well, there's every once in a while you 205 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: get your Bob Saget's but um, you know. And and 206 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: Tom Selleck, who lost twice the mustache himself. Tom Selleck, 207 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: he said he was so nervous that his top lips 208 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: stuck to his gums, like his mouth was so dry. 209 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: He's like he did all right, you know they weren't okay, Yeah, 210 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: I'm not. Don't feel too bad about Tom Selleck. Okay. 211 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: But possibly the most interesting story in the main story 212 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: we want to get to today is this incredible three 213 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: time appearance by Steve Martin, comedy legend, and we'll get 214 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: to his story right after this, and we're back talking 215 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: about the Dating Game and legendary contestants. Steve Martin absolute legend, 216 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: one of the funniest guys ever. He was on The 217 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: Dating Game three times before he was famous. So he 218 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: comes on the show just as a regular contestant one time, 219 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: pretty standard show. There's not really a lot of information 220 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: about it, just that he won a trip to you 221 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: win a trip to see Wayne Newton at Melody Land 222 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: in Anaheim. California. This was the kind of stuff that 223 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: the Dating Game was given out. There was a point 224 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: at which the Dating Game was so popular it went 225 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: from a daytime show up into prime time and they 226 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: enhanced all their prizes. They started sending people overseas. They 227 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: had to send a chaperone from the show because of course, 228 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: like the parents of these young women especially didn't want 229 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: their daughters going overseas with a stranger. Into that idea. 230 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sure there's a mental flass article all 231 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: about Chuck Barris. It's really cool that sites the parents 232 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: really complaining about that, and that's sort of being how 233 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: Chuck set up the chaperone idea. But what it did was, yeah, 234 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: I created all these cool new prizes. So Steve Martin 235 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: goes back on the show in at this point he's 236 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: a writer for a show called The Smothers Brothers Comedy 237 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Our Love the Smothers Brothers. I grew up listening to 238 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: the Smother's Brothers. Nobody else around here did. I don't 239 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: think we didn't. But my mom that you know, dr 240 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: to Mendozi D and that had some Smithers Brothers on 241 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and Steve Martin was was hired 242 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: as a writer for them, so he had a little 243 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: bit of cloud coming into this, and he knew the 244 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: producers and one of the things Chuck Barris adopted to 245 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: do was to just sprinkle in people from the contestants past, 246 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: so you might have a surprise guest bachelor that you're 247 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: picking that you didn't know. You know who they are, 248 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: but then it's revealed that you did. For example, Grout 249 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: show Marks went on the show to prank his daughter, 250 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: who was the girl on the show, and he went 251 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: in as a contestant as a joke. Um, and of 252 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: course she didn't know it until the reveal. I don't 253 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: think she picked him, no, Okay, was about to say 254 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: she probably was like, that's my dad, but you know 255 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: she if she had picked and they would have been 256 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: like and a girl always what's marry our father? Well, 257 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: so Steve Martin goes to the producers and he's like, Hey, 258 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: there's this girl that I'm friends with that would be 259 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: a really great contestant for the show. She won't know 260 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: anything about it. Her name was Marcia Walker. She was 261 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: the sister of Steve Martin's childhood best friend, Morris Walker. 262 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: So he convinced is the producers to bring this girl 263 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: on the show. But here's the trick. Marsha Walker did 264 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: know about Steve. The two of them had planned this 265 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: from day one. They collaborated on questions and answers that 266 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: they thought would be funny and would get a big 267 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: reaction from the audience or whatever. And I think they 268 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: just wanted to win the trip, don't you think. Oh yeah, 269 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: there's a book by Morris Walker about the life of 270 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: Steve Martin. It's called Steve Martin The Magic Years, and 271 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: he said, this is a great opportunity for a professional 272 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: comedy writer like Steve to write some great material. The 273 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: two of them got together and came up with these 274 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: hilarious questions and answer So yeah, not only was an 275 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: opportunity for them to swindle their way into this trip together, 276 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: but they also got he got some comedy writing experience 277 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: out of it. It's really hard to find this episode. 278 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: It seems to have been scrubbed from the internet, and 279 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: it was funny stuff. You know. He luked out because, 280 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: as with again eight six percent of Dating Game contestants, 281 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: the other two guys sucked boring. So of course, at 282 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: the end of the show, She ends up picking him, 283 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: but she would have picked him anyway. The other guys 284 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: sucked right, So together they win this trip to go 285 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: to t want to Mexico to watch the bullfights romantic, 286 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: so intimate. In Morris Walker's book, he says that he 287 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: spoke to a sister about it and they went to 288 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: this bull fight and there was this horrible goring they saw. 289 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't imagine that being a good date. 290 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: If that gets you turned on, I think I'd be 291 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: very worried be one of those dozen red flag bouquees. 292 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: But they busted out of that bullfight and went to 293 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: go turn things around, and they went to see a 294 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: porno in a movie theater. Hey, what's the date that 295 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: a porno movie? At the end, Hey, that bull fight 296 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: really turned me off. What do you want to do? 297 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: Let's go see a porn movie. You see if we 298 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: can't spark things up again. At the time, I guess 299 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: you had to go to Mexico to see a porn 300 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: you did. It wasn't something They didn't have it in 301 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: theaters in America at that point. You think that was 302 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: sanctioned by the show though. They were like, we want 303 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: to tell everyone that on the Dating Game you get 304 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: to go to Mexico and watch a porno graphic film together. 305 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: So on this trip, Marcia told her brother that it 306 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: inspired Steve Martin to write The Three Amigos. So because 307 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: Steve Martin duped the Dating Game, we got the Three Amigos. 308 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Also learned that he learned most of his lasso tricks 309 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: that he uses in Three Amigos at his first job 310 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: in Disneyland. So yeah, a lot of things came together 311 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: for Three Amigos to happen. A lot of things came 312 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: together on this trip to I did. So. Of course, 313 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: my question was did Marcia and Steve have a thing? 314 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: And I don't think they did before this, but they 315 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: certainly did during this because Marcia told Morris and he 316 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: wrote about in his book the Evening took an amorous turn, 317 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: and that Steve Martin's performance between the sheets was his 318 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: entertaining and fulfilling as his wild and crazy performance in 319 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: front of the Curtain, only without the white suit. Steve, Steve, 320 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not surprised to hear this. Steve Martin 321 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: would be good in bed, do you think? I'm sure 322 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: he's very generous? I think so He's quoted in a 323 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Playboy interview as being a little self conscious about it, 324 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: like he didn't want to do He didn't feel like 325 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: he could do sex scenes on screen because he felt 326 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: like he got this from Burnette Peters that she told 327 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: him She's like, if I take my blouse off in 328 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: a movie, suddenly I'm not the character anymore. I'm just 329 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Burnette Peters with my blouse off. And he said the 330 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: same thing about himself. He's like, if I'm doing a 331 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: sex scene, like a real passionate sex scene, people aren't 332 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: going to see the character anymore. They're just gonna see 333 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: Steve Martin naked. So he always said that he felt 334 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: like he would do it in service to the character 335 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: in a movie that worked, but he just wasn't in 336 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: those kinds of movies. Yeah, yeah, And he didn't like 337 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: particularly gravitate to that kind of role anyway. Like even 338 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: in the movies he wrote for himself, he didn't write 339 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: his love scenes were pretty subtle. I think he was 340 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: saving him for the real thing. He was trying to 341 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: save it up for Marcia. So that was how Steve 342 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: Martin and Marshall Walker duped the dating game into a 343 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: long trip for each trip to Mexico. Pretty sweet, and 344 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: you'd think that they would have caught winto that and said, 345 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: oh well that no more Steve Martin wagging our finger 346 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: at you. And yet in nineteen seventy, Steve Martin returned 347 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: as a competitor on The Dating Game. This wasn't a 348 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: set up. He didn't know the contestant. The contestant, in fact, 349 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: was Dina Martin, daughter of Dean Martin, no relation to 350 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: Steve Martin. So once again he was pitted from two 351 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: lame losers from Suckdown and absolutely crushed the whole game 352 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: and got picked as the winner. This episode is available 353 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: online and it's worth It's worth watching. It's funny, you know, 354 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: Steve Martin is doing his thing. A young Steve Martin, 355 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: very handsome by the way, adorable, he's got a Harrison 356 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: Ford thing going on. Yeah, sharp features, great hair, big smile, 357 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: very charming, very funny. Yeah. I was like, it makes 358 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: perfect sense that he would win, especially because it's not 359 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: like he had, like you're saying, vigorous competition. But even 360 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: if he did, he'd I think he'd stand out. This episode, 361 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: Steve Martin is up against this ski jock and this 362 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: like I would this nerd as as as Fashion number three, 363 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: who was probably second place, a distant second place. I 364 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: don't think Dina liked the jack at all. Know the 365 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: jock was third place, hands down. That guy sucked um. 366 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: In the first question, Dina Martin says there's something wrong 367 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: with dating? What is it? And Bachelor number one, the 368 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: ski jock, says nothing. I completely disagree with you that 369 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: if you start your introduction to a woman by saying 370 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: you're wrong, I disagree with you. You suck, you lose, 371 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: and you're lying. You know there's something you don't like 372 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: about dating? Come on, just be real. He just couldn't 373 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: think of something on the spot. Steve Martin, however, said 374 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: dating is the worst. You should meet like on a 375 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: street corner with a flat tire or in a sewer 376 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: or someplace like that. And she was like, oh, that's good, 377 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: that's good. I was like, Dina Martin's like, I don't 378 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: want to party in the sewers with this guy, meanvile. 379 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: Bachelor number three says what's wrong with dating? Mothers? Mothers 380 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: always get in the way, And it was like, this 381 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: competition is over. Get in the way of what exactly 382 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: like Hey, are you bringing your mom on a date? 383 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: Because then you're doing it wrong. Be you're just saying 384 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: mom didn't let you have sex on the first date, 385 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: in which case, why am I listening to you? Continue 386 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: to speak? So Diana Martin, obviously, with no hesitation, picks 387 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: Batchelor number two Steve Martin as the winner. She cited 388 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: his answer, Uh, there was a question she asked. She said, 389 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: what store would you want to stay in overnight? If 390 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: you had to pick a store? And of course ski 391 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: Jock is like, God, look at the skis. He said, 392 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to imagine myself skiing all weekend by myself 393 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: or with the girl of my choice. I was like, 394 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: you know what, we're really not trying to win. You 395 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: were phoning it in, bro, go ahead, go ski by 396 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: yourself all weekend. Let's make that dream come true for you. 397 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: But Steve Martin said, you know, my favorite store has 398 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: always been a good Will. I'd love to stay there 399 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: overnight and trying all the clothes and the ladies hats 400 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: and sleep on all the mattresses. I would get something. 401 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: She thought that was larious. She cited that as her 402 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: reason for why she picked him. At the end, Quinn 403 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: sidentally Batch the number three just for fun, said he 404 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: would be locked in an Italian restaurant all night because 405 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: it would remind him of his mother, who's Jewish, and 406 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: then he ended it by saying they cook with modern gas. 407 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: You know, we were like, wow, well, thank you for 408 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: that information. I wanted to be like, look, follow up 409 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: question would be are you locked in with the cooks 410 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: or not? Because otherwise you just locked in a restaurant. 411 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: You can't eat anything that sounds terrible? Can you cook? 412 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: He didn't mention him being he would just call his 413 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: mom if he was locked in an Italian restaurant and 414 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: make her comb cook with modern gass. Well, if you 415 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: like products like modern gas, then you're going to love 416 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: these words from our sponsors. Good segue, babe, welcome back. 417 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: So Dina's got Bachelor number one, Mr. Ski Free and 418 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: Bachelor number three, a guy who has not stopped talking 419 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: about mothers this entire time. So easy answer here, Bachelor 420 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: number two, Steve Martin, it's got to be back. She 421 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: did say, it's got to be Please God. Bachelor number two, 422 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: They're like, sorry, he's ran off. Can I opt out 423 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: of meeting the other two guys? They're going to touch me, 424 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: aren't they. They did, and of course they did. They 425 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: always do. They're like, well, let's meet the guys who 426 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: didn't pick, and they come out and they kiss her 427 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: on the face and they touch her back. Gross In 428 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: any time, but especially during COVID, it was just like, 429 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: why are you so close to her mouth right now? 430 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: So Steve Martin gets picked by Dina Martin and I 431 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: swear this must have been in Dina Martin's contract before 432 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: she agreed to come to star. She was coming off 433 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: a hot tour. She was already a big deal. This 434 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: was a celebrity guest in their own right for them 435 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: to get and they win a trip to Portofino, Italy. 436 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Beautiful looking trip. They stay in this fancy hotel. Dina 437 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: Martin Anstey Martin honestly notoriously tight lipped about this trip. 438 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: It's true. There is a couple of times when she's 439 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: been asked about it and she'll say, oh, it was fantastic. 440 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: We had a really good time him. We listened to 441 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: this interview with her on a Life and Laughs podcast 442 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: where she said he was adorable. She mentioned that it 443 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: was really difficult to get there. She talked about multiple 444 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: flights they had to take and then a train and 445 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: then a taxi and everything, and she sounded like it 446 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: was very tedious, but he made it really funny, and 447 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: so she called it magic, fun and fabulous. How lucky 448 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: was I to pick the right one? That's That's pretty 449 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: much all we could find about her saying, and then 450 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: he just said he won. We haven't seen anything about 451 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: about it, so we're gonna pull in a speculation station 452 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: here real quick. Do you think that Dina Martin and 453 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: Steve Martin got it on in Portofino, Italy? How could 454 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: you not? I mean, look each their own obviously, but 455 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you get this incredible romantic trip fully 456 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: paid for your two intelligent, attractive people, were like, we're 457 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: here on a fling. You know what, Let's make the 458 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: luck to you, Like they definitely did. I feel that. 459 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: She's like, it's magic and fabulous and I'm not going 460 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: to talk about it, but it was so fun and 461 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: fabulous and magic, and he was adorable and fun and amazing, 462 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to talk about it, but it 463 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: was amazing and fabulous. She's like, we had a really 464 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: good time. So yeah, how lucky were you to pick 465 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: the right one. How lucky were you? How lucky? Worried? 466 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: How lucky with Steve? Who knows? We may never know. 467 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: That's why it's a speculation station. We're not here to 468 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: poke into their lives, Okay. We are here to wildly 469 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: fling around unfounded accusations, and we are great at it. 470 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: And it's just it's a nice idea, you know, I know, 471 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: I just like to think about them having a good 472 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: time in Italy together. You'd like to think about them 473 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: having to think about it good? Yeah, that's my porn 474 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: hub searches are all Dina Martin and Steve Martin cosplay videos. 475 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: All right, so that's the dating game story. But what 476 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: about Steve Martin's relationships? Moving on? Who won the dating 477 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: Game of Steve Martin? Who won Steve Martin's Lonely Heart? 478 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: He dated Burnonette Peter's. He dated Mary Tyler Moore, jealous, 479 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: so beautiful. He got married to an actress named Victoria Tennant. 480 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: They were apparently happily married, going good, going strong. Four 481 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: she left him for an Australian actor. He was heartbroken. Yeah, 482 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: he said he didn't see it coming. Everything seemed good 483 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, painful breakup, kind of out of nowhere. 484 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: But ultimately, then Steve Martin he dated in Hollywood for 485 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: a long time. It never seemed to work out, so 486 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: he gets out of Hollywood. He met this woman and Stringfield, 487 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: who was a fact checker for The New Yorker, and 488 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: she was assigned to one of his comedy pieces, and 489 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: they actually talked on the phone for over a year 490 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: before they actually ended up meeting in person. I think 491 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: that's so cute because he probably I mean, she knew 492 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: who he was, of course, because he's already famous by 493 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: this time, but probably just such a real, you know, 494 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: genuine connection. Now he is twenty seven years older than her, 495 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: I mean, so there's there's something there. But but she's, 496 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: you know, she was in her thirties. He was in 497 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: his sixties. So I think if you're in your mid thirties, 498 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: you can make pretty much any decision you want. You 499 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: can even run for president at that point. So what 500 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Let her date whoever she wants exactly, 501 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: and they're happily married today. In fact, they married in 502 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: two thousand seven as a surprise at a house party 503 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: they were having, and the guests they're like Tom Hanks, 504 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: and they had no idea there was going to be 505 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: a wedding, and all of a sudden they stepped out 506 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: and got married. I just picture April and Andy's wedding 507 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: from Parks and Recreation, but it's Steve Martin and Stringfield, 508 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: and Tom Hanks is like, I want to be the 509 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: best man. I gotta give the best man speach. So 510 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: Steve Martin's sixty seven and Stringfield is forty. And they 511 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: had a daughter, and they kept her secret from the 512 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: public for a year, was until they announced they had 513 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: a daughter, and then they kept her name quiet for 514 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: a long time too. In fact, I don't even know 515 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: who her name was. Is yes coming up in these 516 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: stories there? What her name was chosen, as I guess, 517 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: is the test tense I was going for. Steve Martin 518 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: gave an interview with Telegraph and he said, when I 519 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: was younger, I was selfish and focused on my career. 520 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: But now I'm just hanging around the house playing with 521 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: my daughter. It's great now. See. You know, just as 522 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: a female person, I feel very jealous of this statement 523 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: because women cannot do that. We can't wait until we're 524 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: sixty seven to have kids of our own, do you 525 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, of course you can adopt 526 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: and so on, but that also becomes harder as you 527 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: get older. So it's just such a male thing to 528 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: be able to go. I already did the whole career thing. 529 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: Now I'm old and I'm gonna play with my kid. 530 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: You know that's not something Anne herself could have done 531 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: past much. I mean, I guess there's some stories, there's 532 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: isolated incidents of people having babies in their sixties or something, 533 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: but it's pretty rare, pretty unusual, pretty hard to be 534 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: a mom at sixty, I feel, but I don't know. 535 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: I was just some I was lying. Well, lucky you, Steve. 536 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: But that's the that's a Steve Martin story from the 537 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: Dating Game On now the Dating Game. There's even more 538 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: craziness than Dating Game that we could talk about. The 539 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: producer Chuck Barriss, who started this. He wrote a book 540 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: that was turned into a movie called Confessions of a 541 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: Dangerous Mind starring Sam Rockwell. I think George Clooney produced it. 542 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: In Chuck Barris's own autobiography, he claims that the whole 543 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: time he was doing The Dating Game and acting as 544 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: a chaperone flying these winners to different countries. He was 545 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: an assassin for the c i A taking out targets 546 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: with this TV show as his cover. Now a friend 547 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: of his isn't a co producer. Andrew Lazar said in 548 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: this interview with The Hollywood Reporter that he doesn't think 549 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: the book was true, but he also thinks there's a 550 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: lot of truth to the book. He said, look at 551 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: all these different programs the CIA had set up, It's 552 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: not outrageous to think they would have gone to a 553 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: TV producer who was flying from country to country with 554 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: different celebrities to maybe, you know, do a little espionage 555 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: here and they're probably not taking people out, but but 556 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: maybe you know, getting some info here and there. Porto Fino, 557 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Steve and Dina kept seeing little red dots on their 558 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: chests and they didn't know where they were coming from. 559 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: That's why they're tight lipped. They got some info. No, 560 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: that's why we don't care anything from Jack. Oh my god, 561 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: we have to pull into speculation station. Maybe they were 562 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: they were made into agents and they had to make 563 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: a connection, you know what I'm saying, Like they didn't 564 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: meet someone in Porto Fino and like pass along a 565 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: message or like some fu weird ship. We're like, maybe 566 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: Steve Martin and Dina Martin were like Mr. And Mrs Smith, 567 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: like spies in their own right. They got this is 568 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: where they got brought in, and they just had this 569 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: three week intense period where they were superspies and it 570 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: all went away after that. I love that thought because 571 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: Steve Martin had some prop comedies pulling out giant sniper 572 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: right like the assassins are looking for him and they 573 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: see him lying on the ground with an arrow through 574 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: his head and they're like, oh, I guess I already 575 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: got him. I move on. And then Steve Martin gets 576 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: up and he goes and he cracks a safe open Yeah, 577 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: plays with banjo. There's only one Bancho song that ever 578 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: comes to my kind kermit okay, nope to banjo songs 579 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: every what do you think, oh dueling Banjo's That was 580 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: such a wholesome response and I love it. Oh that's 581 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: the dating game. The story of the Dating Game is 582 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: full of celebs, CIA agents, former, current and future serial killers. 583 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: That's not even all The Dating Game was on for years. 584 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: There's got to be a lot of interesting stories to 585 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: come out of all that, if you were on the 586 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: Dating Game, give us a call. Let us know your 587 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: wild story. Actually, I would love to hear if anybody 588 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: listened to this was ever a game show contestant on 589 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: The Dating Game or The Bachelor or anything like that. 590 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: Let us know what it was like, because I know 591 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about what reality TV is like. I 592 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: worked on a couple of shows, but it is um 593 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: it is a whole other world in there, very weird, 594 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: surreal place I think to find love. But I would 595 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: love to hear. Yeah, tell us your successes, your failures, 596 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: your nightmares from your dating show experience. Maybe it wasn't 597 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: even that. I mean they do these things locally sometimes, 598 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: you know a little auctions and things like that. So 599 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: just let us know your dating experiences in contest form. 600 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: Let us know how it went. You know how to 601 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: reach us. That's romance at I Heart Radio dot com 602 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: and we're on Twitter and Instagram. I'm at dianamite Boom, 603 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm at Oh great, it's Eli, and don't forget to 604 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: follow and leave us through you and help us keep 605 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: a show happening. That's right, all right, thanks thanks for 606 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: tuning in so long. Friends, It's time to go. Thanks 607 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: for listening to our show. 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