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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's do live on a game day Friday edition

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland Brown's Daily. I am merely bow down in Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: Is the great z Gibees in your room? You've been

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Speaker 2: there all week? How are you, buddy? You ready to

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Speaker 2: play some football tonight?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Please, thank you. Let's go. Let's get to this game.

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Speaker 3: We've been here for a while. We got a brief

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Speaker 3: bit of action on Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was it.

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Speaker 3: And now here we are. We're ready to roll for

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Speaker 3: the preseason opener tonight. Obviously it is one of the

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Speaker 3: nay the most anticipated I think Cleveland Brown's preseason game

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Speaker 3: I can remember, although that is probably very much recency bias.

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Speaker 3: I think the first time we got to see Bake,

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Speaker 3: people were pretty excited about that. I think the first

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Speaker 3: time we got to see Johnny football people were very

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Speaker 3: excited about that. But that was, you know, in the

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Speaker 3: last five years, certainly, or at least in the last decade,

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Speaker 3: this would be, you know, top three preseason games that

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Speaker 3: people are excited to see. And so am I because

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Speaker 3: so much talk has been made about it, so much

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Speaker 3: quite frankly ignorant talk from the national perspective about this

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Speaker 3: game and what it means and what the Browns are

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Speaker 3: doing as it relates to Shadoor Sanders and now we're

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Speaker 3: just gonna go out and play football. Now we're just

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Speaker 3: gonna go out there. We're gonna play football, and we're

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Speaker 3: going to see how it goes. So I am excited

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 2: We really don't have a comp for this. There's nothing

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Speaker 2: I was trying to think. I mean, because you're right

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Speaker 2: the other two instances you mentioned Baker's debut and you

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Speaker 2: thought about John Football's debut.

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Speaker 4: I was there for Brady.

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Speaker 2: Quinn's debut at the stadium, and that one had a

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Speaker 2: lot of juice of like wanting to see Brady go.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Tim Couch. Look, anytime you have a quarterback

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Speaker 2: that you draft in the first round, there is juice

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Speaker 2: to seeing them in your uniform for the first time.

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Speaker 2: And that is something that is not unique. That's something

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Speaker 2: that everybody who drafts a first round quarterback. There is

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Speaker 2: that juice to see that quarterback. What makes this so

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Speaker 2: different are the circumstances that made this possible tonight with

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Speaker 2: a fifth round pick, which is what should do, or

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Speaker 2: is a fifth round pick basically getting the ball and go.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we just I.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't think of another example of this of a fifth

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Speaker 2: a fifth round pick who is on a short list

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Speaker 2: of one of the most famous college football players of

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Speaker 2: the debut, So like that part of it, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: think of a comparison for Buddy. I really couldn't. I

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Speaker 3: Let me take it a step further, because there isn't one.

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Speaker 3: You're right, but this game the get in and talking

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Speaker 3: to people in the ticket industry, this game it's bigger

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Speaker 3: than your average regular season game in Charlotte. It's got

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Speaker 3: I think people are coming here to see this. I

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Speaker 3: think people around the country. Are are transfixed by this.

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Speaker 3: He is a draw. This would be he's a draw.

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Speaker 3: He's a draw because you're looking at prices right now

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Speaker 3: that for this Carolina Panthers game against the Cleveland Browns

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Speaker 3: in the preseason by somebody I know and trust very

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Speaker 3: well in the ticket industry and the ticket market, this

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Speaker 3: will be the biggest Carolina game since, like Bryce Young's debut.

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at lower Bowl right now, using ESPN

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Speaker 2: it was like. You can't sit in the lower Bowl

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Speaker 2: for tonight for preseason game number one on the road

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Speaker 2: You know, you give your seats away to folks who

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Speaker 2: And it speaks to just how unique this is. The

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Speaker 2: other thing with Baker and with Johnny, you drafted those

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Speaker 2: the way it has to be viewed. Also, the circumstances

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Speaker 2: like if Kenny Pickett were not nursing the hamstring, if

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Speaker 2: look totally different. Like all of the things that had

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Speaker 2: and he's earned it. He's done all the things right

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Speaker 2: for sure, but like there's also nowhere else to go

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Speaker 4: All of the snaps are his snaps, right.

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Speaker 3: I think if you had everybody up, it's maybe Kenny

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Speaker 3: He's gonna get, you know, well into the second half,

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Speaker 3: and this is an incredible opportunity. And people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: going against the twos and threes of the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the reality of it. And you know,

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Speaker 3: So no, this is not he is not being set

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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they foreshad door standers. He's their quarterback. We

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Speaker 3: are in search of a quarterback, and yeah, we've documented

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Speaker 3: it well, like if you've listened to the show right now,

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't have this opportunity. This is a great opportunity

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Speaker 3: game is played when it is a game. It's not

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Speaker 3: played in practice. Ask Allen Iverson. It's not played on whiteboards,

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Speaker 3: it's not played in meeting rooms. No, you want to

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Speaker 3: show that, listen. I may have a lot to learn

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Speaker 3: in some of those other areas about my process, about

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Speaker 3: what it takes to be an NFL quarterback, but all

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Speaker 3: the things you have to be able to do, snap,

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Speaker 3: just call in the plays, all of that. But when

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Speaker 3: I get out there, if I can handle that operation,

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Speaker 3: let my talent shine through. You know, this is a

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Speaker 3: guy that you would expect to make a lot of plays.

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Speaker 3: It's all we've seen him do every time he stepped

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Speaker 3: And that's why I think it is going to be

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Speaker 3: interesting because two things. Number One, you don't see this

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Speaker 2: Never never, no, never, No, you haven't And you know

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Speaker 2: you're watching some of the action last night, like Jalen Milroe,

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Speaker 4: Remember at one point we're gonna have to.

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Speaker 2: Trade up to get Jalen Milroe all the way to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what you're gonna have to take him at too.

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Speaker 4: You can't got to take him at too. May have

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Speaker 4: to take Milrod too.

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Speaker 2: He ended up going in the third round of Seattle,

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Speaker 2: and he played the end of the game last night.

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Speaker 2: He went six to ten through for sixty yards, ran

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Speaker 3: And nobody's counting his reps. Nobody's saying, oh, what what

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Speaker 3: I think the problem the disconnect for so many people

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Speaker 3: clearly the league for a variety of reasons, which we've

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we.

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Speaker 3: Haven't heard anything about his reps. All we've seen is,

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Speaker 3: and not having to do Walkers. But you haven't heard it,

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Speaker 4: There's no question, yes he is.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, so like you, you're not having this his own.

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Speaker 3: This is a unique phenomenon created by perhaps you know,

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Speaker 3: as we've talked about everybody who watched him on film

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Speaker 3: first or second round grade. Well, there's obviously things beyond

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Speaker 3: I love watching this guy play. Are there some bad habits?

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Speaker 3: Of course? Was he behind a bad offensive line with

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Speaker 3: take too many sacks? Of course? So that's things you're

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Speaker 3: going to look at. That's something you know, Kevin Stefanci

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Speaker 3: him get the ballut, we want to see that pocket move.

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Speaker 3: We want to say him not you know, not take sacks,

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Speaker 3: be decisive, all of those things. But there's a lens

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Speaker 3: out there that he should be candid everything. But the

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Speaker 3: reality is he is a fifth rom pick and the

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Speaker 3: second quarterback picked by our team. Yeah, in this draft.

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Speaker 3: So it's it's really a fascinating thing. I think that

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Speaker 3: Offensively? I think you're going to see, you know what

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Speaker 2: Everybody what And we'll get into the Caro Carolina's side

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Speaker 3: That's pretty scary, honestly, because he was a real home

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Speaker 3: they're playing against us. I hope that it doesn't. I

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Speaker 3: hope they continue to struggle early in the year. But yeah,

433
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Speaker 3: you don't want to see anybody of consequence in the

434
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Speaker 3: NFL get hurt like Rashaun Slater gets hurt and is

435
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Speaker 3: done now for the year. Down for the Chargers. That's

436
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Speaker 3: a devastating blow. That's awful. Nobody wants to see any

437
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Speaker 3: of that stuff. That is not what you ever want

438
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Speaker 3: to see in the preseason. So yeah, I'm with you.

439
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Speaker 3: I think that it is a very It's kind of

440
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Speaker 3: like i'd liken it too when I'm watching, you know,

441
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Speaker 3: my buddy's in a ladder match in the WW if

442
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 3: I know somebody in that where I'm like, all right,

443
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Speaker 3: I know you're doing this. I know it's a it's

444
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Speaker 3: a big part of the show. It's a big it's

445
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Speaker 3: you know, but like, just don't get hurt. Just don't

446
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Speaker 3: get hurt. Yeah, because it's the league's better with Joe

447
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 3: Burrow in it. The league is better with Jamar Chase.

448
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 3: It's the league's better with its stars being stars and playing,

449
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Speaker 3: so you don't want to see it. Now, it could

450
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 3: happen no matter what. I mean. We've lost MJ Emerson

451
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Speaker 3: in a no contact situation, so you never know when

452
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Speaker 3: it can happen. But yeah, you absolutely, I'm watching that

453
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Speaker 3: being like, all right, cool that he got good work,

454
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Speaker 3: get him out of there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's as I'm watching this stuff, that's all

456
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking. And then i'm you know, you think about

457
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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson and you've detailed like you know what happened

458
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Speaker 2: on the play. But I mean, he has a dislocated

459
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Speaker 2: pinky now. And this is a guy who they drafted

460
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Speaker 2: four overall. He's going into his third year. He only

461
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Speaker 2: played he only started twelve games at the University of Florida,

462
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Speaker 2: that's it. And he was basically a fifty percent passer

463
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Speaker 2: at his time at the University of Florida. They fell

464
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Speaker 2: in love with him with the measurables and the physicality

465
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Speaker 2: and all this stuff at the draft. But this guy

466
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Speaker 2: has not played enough football. Man, He's not at all

467
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Speaker 2: played enough football. And you just see like the project

468
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Speaker 2: that he would be. And he's probably one of those

469
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Speaker 2: guys who needed like a two year red shirt would

470
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Speaker 2: have been the right thing to do with him. And then,

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Speaker 2: quite honestly, something you and I talk about in the

472
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Speaker 2: off season a lot like go play in the UFL

473
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Speaker 2: for ten games, like he needs a lot of ball,

474
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Speaker 2: a ton of ball, and the things that got him

475
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Speaker 2: in a last And so if you're an Indy, you're like, Okay,

476
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Speaker 2: we're in year three with this guy. We drafted him fourth.

477
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Speaker 2: We don't even really know what we have. I mean,

478
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Speaker 2: that's the thing that's so hard about this is like

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Speaker 2: what do they have with him? Like, if you put

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Speaker 2: yourself in their shoes, it feels like they're kind of

481
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Speaker 2: ready to move on. But at the same point, what

482
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Speaker 2: is he twenty three?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Young, Yeah, it's crazy. I don't know what you do there.

485
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Speaker 4: And now he's not gonna get much of a chance

486
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Speaker 4: because he's gonna be down for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things. And this,

488
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Speaker 3: you know, he's this is in addition to as you've

489
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Speaker 3: talked about at nauseum, is inability to necessarily throw the

490
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Speaker 3: ball accurately consistently. He just can't stay healthy. This is

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Speaker 3: just another another knock in that in that you know

492
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Speaker 3: in that repertoire. It's, uh, the preseason is a fascinating

493
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Speaker 3: thing because it's football tonight. We're doing it in a

494
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Speaker 3: way that you know, makes a lot of sense to me.

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Speaker 3: They're still guys that I'm gonna want to see them

496
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Speaker 3: make plays and then see them get out of there

497
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Speaker 3: right away. But it's tough when you have somebody that

498
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Speaker 3: you've invested in for the season. But like we said,

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Speaker 3: Rashawn Slater happened to practice, I'm Jammerson happened to practice. CJ.

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Speaker 3: Gardner Johnson out looks like he avoided serious injury at

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Speaker 3: leastays of what I saw last night. I haven't looked

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Speaker 3: into it this morning, but it seems like, you know,

503
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Speaker 3: he avoided serious injury that happened to practice. So it's

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Speaker 3: it's just hard. It's part of the unfortunately, it's part

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Speaker 3: of the game rights, it's part of the business. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, I'm with you. You want to mitigate risk, but

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Speaker 3: the truth is every time you put a helmet on,

508
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Speaker 3: even if you're in shorts, there's a risk of injury

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Speaker 3: out there. They're just always is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, three more games tonight, including ours, of course, that

511
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Speaker 2: is a seven o'clock kick. Also kicking at seven o'clock

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Speaker 2: is Detroit at the Falcons and then the Kammis and Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I have not seen anything.

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Speaker 2: I don't know is Rabel having Drake mayplay because everything

515
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Speaker 2: coming out of there is I mean, they did the

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Speaker 2: joint practices, so my hunches.

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Speaker 3: No, I would think not, especially as em.

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Speaker 4: In Washington did the joint practices.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it felt like there was a little bit

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Speaker 3: of you know, bad blood there in that we had

521
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Speaker 3: people brawling, coach brawling, all of that. It looks like,

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Speaker 3: according to some reports, maybe one drive if he plays

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Speaker 3: at all, it'll be one drive, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like he's had a great camp and played

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Speaker 2: very well in the joint scrimmage with Yeah.

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Speaker 3: People are saying he outplayed h.

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Speaker 4: The Red skincamis.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm thought he out played Jane Daniels, which would

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Speaker 3: be incredible. I mean, people, they're very high on him,

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. They are very very high

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Speaker 3: on him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the best example and the biggest

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Speaker 2: proof of that is the fact that Raves went there

536
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Speaker 2: because Rabes could have gone anywhere, he could have waited,

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Speaker 2: and he was only going to go to the right spot,

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Speaker 2: and that one is certainly the right spot, and they're

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Speaker 2: off to a nice start. So we had preseason three

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Speaker 2: games last night, three more tonight, and of course the

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Speaker 2: expect to see from them and the season goes along.

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Speaker 2: down in Carolina to take on the Carolina Panthers in

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Speaker 2: preseason game number one. What do you anticipate? I get

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Speaker 2: you kind of. I think you alluded to this earlier, buddy,

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Speaker 2: but it sounds like maybe a series of two for

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Speaker 2: the Carolina starters from Canalis tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he was saying. You know, I think

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Speaker 3: if they have some success on the first series, that

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Speaker 3: they will go ahead and they will call it after

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Speaker 3: one series. If they don't, I'd like the three and

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Speaker 3: out off and simply I certainly could see them come

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Speaker 3: back out for a little more work. And you know,

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Speaker 3: this is a team that I think is gonna be

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Speaker 3: pretty fun to watch. On offense, They've got a good

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Speaker 3: offensive line, you know, Austin Corbett and Robert Hant, Taylor Moten,

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Speaker 3: Damian Lewis and then Akuano. I always struggle with his name,

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Speaker 3: e kem Equano. Ikuanu. That's the first round pick, Ikwanu.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, that that's it ikwan who had

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Speaker 3: a tough time with Miles Garrett in practice. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: he's thrilled that he is not going to be playing

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Speaker 3: in this game. But they've got they've got good skill.

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Speaker 3: You look at you know, they draft a Tetaro McMillan.

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Speaker 3: They've got Adam Thielen, They've got Xavier Legit, they've got

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Speaker 3: Hunter renfros In. Now we'll see. He hasn't really done

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Speaker 3: much since twenty twenty one, but we'll see, if you know,

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Speaker 3: he's still left in the tank. But they've got some

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Speaker 3: good receivers they can I like Jatavian Sanders, who is

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Speaker 3: their tight end out of Texas fourth round pick a

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Speaker 3: year ago at thirty three, catches for three hundred and

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Speaker 3: forty two yards. They like him a good deal, and

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Speaker 3: then they really can run the ball. They've got who

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Speaker 3: would have had this? The Panthers might be the only

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Speaker 3: team in the NFL that has two guys on their

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Speaker 3: roster that ran for one thousand yards in the NFL

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Speaker 3: last year. I can't think of anybody else who would

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Speaker 3: fit that bill.

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Speaker 4: They had two thousand yard rushers last year.

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Speaker 3: Well, they had one, Chuba Hubbard, who ran for a

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Speaker 3: career high on ninety five yards. He was eighth in

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Speaker 3: the NFL and rushing yards. He ran for ten touchdowns

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Speaker 3: four point eight yards of Cary they signed to a

596
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Speaker 3: big extension, but one of their big free agent signings

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Speaker 3: this offseason was Rico doubtell. He ran for one thousand

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Speaker 3: and seventy nine yards last year for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: They drafted Trevor Etn. Now people, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: people remember, but they drafted Jonathan Brooks last year, and

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Speaker 3: then he tore the same knee. Yeah, tore the same

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Speaker 3: knee again, which is very said. And then you got

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young. Bryce Young in his last three games last year,

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Speaker 3: seven touchdowns, no interceptions, had one hundred plus rating in

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Speaker 3: all three. And then his final game last season against

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Speaker 3: Atlanta in the game Atlanta had to win. It was

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Speaker 3: a playoff game for a Lanta. They had to win

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Speaker 3: to get into the playoffs. In that game, Bryce Young

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Speaker 3: completed seventy four percent of his passes for two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty one yards, three touchdowns, no picks, one hundred

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Speaker 3: and twenty three rating, highest of his career. Andy added

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Speaker 3: two rushing touchdowns. So at the end of the year,

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young was cooking. So they've got a big, good

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Speaker 3: veteran offensive line. You know, Ikwanu is in his fourth season,

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Speaker 3: He's a first round pick. Damian Lewis in his sixth

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Speaker 3: was the third round pick. Corbett was a second round

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Speaker 3: pick in his eighth year now, Robert Hunt as second

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Speaker 3: round pick in his sixth and Moten was a second

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Speaker 3: round pick now in his ninth year. So they've got

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Speaker 3: big dudes up front. Austin Corbet's the smallest one, and

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Speaker 3: he's like morphed into Joel Bottonio. He just looks like

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Speaker 3: a complete off. It's like crazy. They just all end

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Speaker 3: up looking like stut offensive lineman. So I think they're

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Speaker 3: a pretty fun team. McMillan in Legit and Legit is

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Speaker 3: built crazy. He is so thick in his lower body.

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Speaker 3: It is a wild McMillan's a big guy. And then

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Speaker 3: they got feel I mean, they've got some real talent here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the running that you mentioned Doubtell Trevor Etti and

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Speaker 2: at Georgia last year was a guy that didn't have

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Speaker 2: the year probably people thought he would have ye, but

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Speaker 2: but he's an explosive player too. So the running back

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Speaker 2: room has got good depth to it, you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of beyond that. So my hunch is then for them offensively,

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Speaker 2: when once Bryce goes away, are they going to give

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Speaker 2: Andy Andy Dalton or will they go right to Jack Plumber.

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Speaker 3: Now it'll be Andy Dalton, who obviously a three time

637
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Speaker 3: pro Bowler played started five games for them a year ago,

638
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: completed sixty six percent of his passes, nine or eighty

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Speaker 3: nine yard, seven touchdowns, six picks. He's the number two,

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Speaker 3: he'll play I think a lot. I think that kind

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Speaker 3: of similar to you know, when Burrow was in there.

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Speaker 3: They're just gonna try to get the ball out quickly.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they want to expose him to our

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Speaker 3: pass rushers with hit that second offensive line, because I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you right now, our pass rushers are very good,

646
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Speaker 3: the depth of our pass rushers very good. So I

647
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Speaker 3: think Dalton he'll be in there for a while, but

648
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Speaker 3: I expect them probably to try to do whatever they

649
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Speaker 3: can to keep him safe. Is not going to be

650
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Speaker 3: you know, a lot of deep, dry and throwing the

651
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Speaker 3: ball down the field. And then Jack Plumber will come

652
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Speaker 3: in at the end. And Plumber up was the quarterback

653
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Speaker 3: at Louisville, I guess before Tyler Shuck went ten and four.

654
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Speaker 3: They're back in twenty twenty three and had a nice season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's And then defensively from them, you know,

656
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Speaker 2: mostly are they gonna play their ones defensively to a

657
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Speaker 2: series or two?

658
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Speaker 4: Is that kind of the feeling you got.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think we'll see Derek Brown. He didn't

660
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Speaker 3: participate in the joint practice, so I'm seen a reason

661
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Speaker 3: why they would put him out there. The Pro bowler

662
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Speaker 3: from twenty twenty three last year, missed all but one game,

663
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Speaker 3: got to suffer a knee injury early in that season.

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Speaker 3: So they're looking for him to get back into form

665
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Speaker 3: because in twenty twenty three he was unbelievable. Two sacks,

666
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Speaker 3: fifteen quarterback hits, one hundred and three tackles, most tackles

667
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Speaker 3: by a defensive tackle in the history of the National

668
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Speaker 3: Football League he had in that Pro Bowl season. They

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Speaker 3: made some moves up front. They brought in Bobby Brown

670
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Speaker 3: from the Rams. You're gonna hear me say that a lot.

671
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Speaker 3: They brought in Trishaun Wharton from the Kansas City Chiefs

672
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Speaker 3: is two times Super Bowl champs. So they've got some

673
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Speaker 3: big guys up front in this in this three four

674
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Speaker 3: ash Robinson's three twenty, Wharton, you know, Bobby Brown's three thirty,

675
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Speaker 3: Browns three twenty. And then at the second level that's

676
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Speaker 3: really where they got in. They made some moves in

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Speaker 3: terms of bringing people in. They brought in Christian rose Boom,

678
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Speaker 3: the linebacker from the Rams who had a cur high

679
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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty three tackles a year ago. They brought

680
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Speaker 3: in Patrick Jones from Minnesota who had a career high

681
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Speaker 3: seven sacks a year ago. And then they drafted Nick

682
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Speaker 3: Gordon from Texas A and M previously at Purdue, who

683
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Speaker 3: had last year five sacks fourteen tackles for lost at

684
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Speaker 3: Texas A and M. He was their second round pick.

685
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Speaker 3: In the third round, they draft Princely Uman and mell

686
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Speaker 3: Yellen Uman and me Yellen Uman Miel. They've got some

687
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Speaker 3: names there, Uman Ellen, Princely Uman, me Ellen out of

688
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Speaker 3: old miss.

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Speaker 2: You and Sicily. I'm gonna have your hands full time

690
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Speaker 2: called Princeley. When your name Princely, you don't really need much.

691
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Speaker 2: Prince went with one name. You're just adding a lead

692
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Speaker 2: to that.

693
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Speaker 3: Prince Lee fine, he's a guy that you know they

694
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Speaker 3: like off the edge as well. In their three four

695
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Speaker 3: had you know, almost twenty five college. So that's where

696
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Speaker 3: they're that's where they've kind of changed there. And back end,

697
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Speaker 3: Jace Horne, the pro bowler, he's gonna be out with

698
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Speaker 3: a hand. But they brought in Trayvon Merrick who had

699
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Speaker 3: been with the Raiders, who had a career high hundred

700
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Speaker 3: and four tackles last year. They got Mike Jackson, they

701
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Speaker 3: got Nick Scott, they brought Lathan Ransom, the buck guy. Yeah,

702
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Speaker 3: it was their fourth round pick this year. So yeah,

703
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Speaker 3: that's where they're at. And then Shaw Smith Wade is

704
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Speaker 3: their their nickel who was their fifth round pick year ago.

705
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Speaker 3: Had a nice season as a as a rookie. So

706
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Speaker 3: that's that's where they're at. They play three four big defense,

707
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Speaker 3: big guys up front, not as big out on the edges.

708
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Speaker 3: So it'll be and I think it'll be a fun

709
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Speaker 3: matchup for the Browns. But yeah, they're good. They're gonna

710
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Speaker 3: get their starters in there on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like Tampa has Tampa's the cream of this.

712
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Speaker 2: And then it's kind of a race between Atlanta and

713
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Speaker 2: Carolina for who's got second. And I think most people

714
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Speaker 2: think it'll be Atlanta, but there is there's some juice

715
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Speaker 2: for this Carolina team.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely some juice for this Carolina team, There's no doubt,

717
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Speaker 3: and and a lot of it has to do with

718
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Speaker 3: I think how fun we have thought. You know that

719
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Speaker 3: this offense can be. We gonna ask you, I mean,

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Speaker 3: housekeeping's coming in. We're good on the radio, Thank you very.

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Speaker 4: Much, Come on in. How long you've been there? Like

722
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 4: six nights? You probably know him my first name?

723
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Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable.

724
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Speaker 4: All right, there you go.

725
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Speaker 2: There you are behind enemy lines for the Carolina Panthers

726
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Speaker 2: for the preseason debut tonight between your Cleveland Browns and

727
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Speaker 2: your Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 4: Z went one on one.

729
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Speaker 2: With coach for the Coaches Show. We will have that

730
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Speaker 2: for you. What positions will he put Shadeur Sanders in tonight?

731
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Speaker 2: How will they get success offensively? You're gonna hear from

732
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Speaker 4: Here is ze one on one with coach.

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Speaker 3: All Right, coach, before we get into the preseason opener

747
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Speaker 3: tomorrow night, let's take a step back and look at

748
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: yesterday in that joint practice that was first opportunity to

749
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Speaker 3: get some work against another football team. Overall, big picture,

750
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Speaker 3: how do you think that the Cleveland Browns did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was really pleased with yesterday.

752
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 7: I thought the guys competed like crazy, which is part

753
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Speaker 7: of this when you're going up against somebody in a

754
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 7: different color jersey. So they did a nice job really

755
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Speaker 7: on the offensive side, defensive side, special teams, just of

756
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Speaker 7: that effort that's required.

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Speaker 5: Was it perfect? No, that's what you know.

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Speaker 7: We're chasing that perfection, but we can teach off of

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Speaker 7: some of the moments.

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Speaker 5: But I thought our.

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Speaker 7: Really good players played really good, and I think that's

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Speaker 7: that's a great thing for us as these guys are

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Speaker 7: starting a round into you know, football shapes not the

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Speaker 7: right way of putting it, because it's not a conditioning thing.

765
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Speaker 7: But as they round into football form getting ready for.

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Speaker 3: A week one well, one of the things that you

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Speaker 3: talked about kind of I think day one training camp

768
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Speaker 3: we got to you know, callous our minds, callous our

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Speaker 3: bodies and for the first time in year tenure here

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Speaker 3: and if I'm wrong about that, correct me. But we've

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Speaker 3: had multiple live tackling periods, including one that was a

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Speaker 3: twenty plus minute period. So let's just go to the

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Speaker 3: genesis of that decision. How did you arrive at that point?

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Speaker 3: And I can tell you I heard and talk to

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Speaker 3: multiple guys come outfield who were like, we were ray

776
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Speaker 3: more prepared for this joint practice than our opponents were.

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Speaker 7: Well, I would tell you we did go live previously,

778
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Speaker 7: but it was in COVID, so I don't know if

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Speaker 7: that Maybe that year doesn't count because there was no preseason.

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Speaker 7: So in our yes, we have gone live. But I

781
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Speaker 7: think the big picture, Nathan is every season you look

782
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Speaker 7: at your football team and you try to figure out

783
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Speaker 7: what they need to get ready for the season. And

784
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Speaker 7: I look at what we've done in the past or

785
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 7: haven't done in the past and are there are there

786
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 7: opportunities or are things that can get our football team

787
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Speaker 7: ready for a week one. So thought that there were

788
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Speaker 7: some opportunities to change up a little bit of our

789
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Speaker 7: practice schedule, as you mentioned, and certainly the live part

790
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 7: is a part of that as well, and then going

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Speaker 7: against an opponent in week one of the preseason.

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Speaker 5: We have not done that before.

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Speaker 7: So I think if you couple those live periods with

794
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Speaker 7: an extra practice versus a team in Week one, that

795
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Speaker 7: leads to a lot of the decisions and not playing

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Speaker 7: the starters in the game versus Carolina because they've gotten

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Speaker 7: upwards of call it thirty six forty plays in a

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Speaker 7: live or very competitive thud period versus another team.

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Speaker 3: Did you get the sense your players enjoyed it? I

800
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: certainly get sense that they felt very good about where

801
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Speaker 3: they're at because of those periods.

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Speaker 7: Yes, And listen, we've all been around a lot long

803
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Speaker 7: time where live was just part of it, used to

804
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Speaker 7: be just part of training camp, and there's been Listen,

805
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Speaker 7: the evolution of football is real and the safety and

806
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 7: something we take very seriously. Having said that, if there's

807
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Speaker 7: opportunities to do it in a safe environment and you know.

808
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 7: What I would point out is the guys we had

809
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Speaker 7: all those live plays and we didn't sustain injuries from those.

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Speaker 7: And the reason is we had buy in from our

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Speaker 7: football team, and our defensive players tackled up high. We

812
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 7: didn't have any low tackling. We didn't have any cut blocks. Obviously,

813
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Speaker 7: we didn't bring the tight end across and cut the

814
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Speaker 7: defensive end down. So I think there's ways to do

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Speaker 7: it and do it in a safe environment.

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Speaker 3: So it was a good success yesterday. He saw what

817
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Speaker 3: you wanted to see. Let's talk about the quarterbacks because

818
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Speaker 3: all of them did get some work, and we know

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Speaker 3: that we won't see Joe and then Kenny and Dylan

820
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: are nursing their hamstring injuries. But what did you see

821
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Speaker 3: in the periods that they were able to get.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought they all did a nice job trying

823
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Speaker 7: to get everybody as much work as as we can

824
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Speaker 7: when we're down here. Obviously, Shador will get the majority

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Speaker 7: of the game, so he's going to get call it

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Speaker 7: fifty plays of game work work, which I think will

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Speaker 7: be great for him. I think Snoop will get him

828
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Speaker 7: in there later in the game as well. Want to

829
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Speaker 7: be smart about that with the fact that Tyler just

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Speaker 7: got here, so don't want to just throw him out there,

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Speaker 7: but if he's ready, we'll get him out there as well.

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Speaker 7: And then in the practice itself, trying to make sure

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Speaker 7: that they all get get their moments. Obviously, Kenny and

834
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Speaker 7: Dylan are limited by their injuries right now, so they

835
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Speaker 7: could really only do seven on seven And if we

836
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 7: put them in a team drill, it was catch, set,

837
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Speaker 7: throw and get the ball out, not asking them to

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Speaker 7: move too much.

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Speaker 3: How about Snoop, it was with the and I know

840
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: it was very well liked in the locker room and

841
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: certainly in the building last year in training camp, and

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Speaker 3: you get him back in here, sign him on a Tuesday,

843
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: he gets on a plane and he practices on Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love him.

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Speaker 7: He Snoop's one of my favorite guys, favorite teammate. This

846
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 7: guy just loves ball. I mean eats it, drinks it,

847
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 7: sleeps it. He just wants to spend every waking minute

848
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 7: in this meeting room watching tape. So it's been really

849
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 7: fun just having him back around. His energy is infectious

850
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 7: and the kid just wants to be part of a

851
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Speaker 7: football team. And luckily we were in need of somebody

852
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 7: that could come in and operate quickly. The fact that

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Speaker 7: he was with us last season. Although we've evolved quite

854
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Speaker 7: a bit, he has enough of a general understanding of

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Speaker 7: our terminology where he can go.

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Speaker 5: Out and play.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's excited to see the rookies first preseason game. You

858
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: get to see him, You got to see them in

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00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: the competitive situation yesterday. But you know, from Mason on down.

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Speaker 3: We mentioned the quarterbacks, but Mason and Harold and you

861
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 3: know Dylan and Carson, how did they do in your eyes?

862
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: And are you also excited to see them actually play

863
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 3: football for the first time?

864
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 5: I am. Now.

865
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting because Dylan Samson has been tackled

866
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 7: it feels like fifty times in practice by our guys,

867
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 7: so I've seen in fact, by Carson, I've seen a

868
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 7: lot of that. So I think this first game is

869
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 7: really a step in that direction. Let's get them in

870
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 7: their uniform, let's get them through pregame warm up, let's

871
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 7: get them some game action. But it's not an extended look.

872
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 7: That extended look will come later. But they've gotten a

873
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 7: ton of good reps in practice and in these joint sessions.

874
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: When you look at kind of this rosters you go

875
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: through and maybe from injury. Some of the questions that arise,

876
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 3: for example, in the cornerback room, how big is this game?

877
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: In your evaluation of Okay, we've got Greg and we

878
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: played Greg outside, we've played Greg inside. We know where

879
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 3: Denzel is going to be, but we need to find

880
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: that third corner. Is that going to be a nickel

881
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: that's going to keep Greg outside the whole time? Or

882
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: is that third corner? Actually do we like it? You know,

883
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: we go with the base, We have Greg outside and

884
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: when it comes to the nickel, he slides back in

885
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 3: as he did with MJ. How big is this game?

886
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 3: And really the next probably two weeks for that position?

887
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: So the fine, Kay, who's cornerback? Who's cornerback for?

888
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a big deal.

889
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 7: And that's what training camps about the preseasons about it

890
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 7: is while we're getting the team ready, we're also evaluating

891
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 7: our players. And part of an evaluation is putting them

892
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 7: in the best position literally to succeed. So where and

893
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 7: you know, take an offensive player, is the best inside

894
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 7: as a slot receiver? Is the best outside as a

895
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 7: tight end? Hey, do we like him inline or do

896
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 7: we like him more? As an F So that's the

897
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 7: same conversation you're with a lot of your corners. It's

898
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 7: this guy a better inside outside player. Does they have

899
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 7: flex So I think part of it with MJ's injury

900
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 7: is we do have to see what the best combination

901
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 7: is for our players. Greg's a football player. Greg could

902
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 7: play inside, Greg could play outside, Greg could play safety.

903
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 7: In the meantime, we'll get him some work outside as

904
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 7: Greg gets healthy, and then figure out our guys that

905
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 7: we feel really good about what they look like inside.

906
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 7: And I'd point out two guys in particular, Cam Mitchell

907
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 7: and Miles hard And have played for us and have

908
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 7: played well and played inside. So we just are going

909
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 7: to continue our evaluation of them over the next few weeks.

910
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: So these they'll play a lot then correct. Okay, one,

911
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: I think we always like, you know, the Alberia guys,

912
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: and I think certainly in the receiver room, we got

913
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: a couple of Luke Florida has made a lot of plays,

914
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: has look very good, created separation, and Gage Larvindans consistently

915
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: made plays as well. For those guys, this is kind

916
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: of a real reward, right, an opportunity on a big

917
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: stage to put keep going forward like that, when you

918
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: see these young guys that you guys are able to

919
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: kind of find and they're able to have that success.

920
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: Number one, as a coach, I'm sure that's got to

921
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: be somewhat warding. And number two, you know, what do

922
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: you want to see when with the lights on with

923
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 3: those guys?

924
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 7: You know, I think the big thing and you mentioned

925
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 7: the lights and it's true, and we'll actually meet with

926
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 7: the rookies about this very thing. You have to take

927
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 7: the practice field to the game field. What you don't

928
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 7: want to do is, hey, the lights are on, I

929
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 7: want to go perform. I want to go do something

930
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 7: different than I've done on the practice field, And that

931
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 7: would be the complete opposite of what.

932
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 5: You should do.

933
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 7: You should just take that preparation, all the work you've

934
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 7: done in the on the field, in the meeting rooms

935
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 7: and apply that into the game, regardless of the fact

936
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 7: that they're keeping score and it's in a game setting

937
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 7: under the lights like you mentioned. But if those guys

938
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 7: just continue to do what they're have been doing, they'll

939
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 7: be just fine.

940
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 8: All right.

941
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: Yesterday or we saw some field goals attempted at very

942
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 3: small uprights, but they weren't even straight. I don't know

943
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: exactly what they were going for with those uprights.

944
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 6: They're called the skinnies.

945
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen skinnies, though we have skinnies, but they're

946
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: at least still upright here. We're very wonky. Nonetheless, Dustin

947
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: Hopkins was splitting these wonky uprights. Seems like he's had

948
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: a very good off season kicking the ball. What have

949
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: you seen from him? Because two years ago he was

950
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: so good, but it's so instrumental in many ways in

951
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: our ability to get to the playoffs. Last year not

952
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: as good from him. What have you seen? And how

953
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 3: confident that he can return to that?

954
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 9: For him?

955
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very confident.

956
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 7: And he's been with the team all spring long. He

957
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 7: committed to being at the off season program, committed to

958
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 7: getting better. He's been incredible through offseason, been incredible through

959
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 7: these training camp practices, and then this is again the

960
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 7: next step for him is going in these preseason games

961
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 7: and grooving that ball and seeing that ball come off

962
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 7: your foot and make sure that your technique is where

963
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 7: you want it. But I want to get him some

964
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 7: opportunities in these games as well, just so he can

965
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 7: take all that hard work that he's been doing in

966
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 7: the off season and applied here.

967
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 3: One thing we've been kind of searching for during your

968
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: tenure is a kick returner, and it feels like in

969
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: DeAndre Carter, we have one. For a variety of reasons,

970
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: they have never quite yet made it to the season. Well,

971
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: knock on wood that that is not the case one

972
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: more time. How do you plan to use him? Because

973
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 3: I know you want to get him some work. At

974
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: the same time, it's like we know the history. We

975
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: want a Week one against Cincinnati.

976
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 7: DeAndre I won't return in this game. He's gotten a

977
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 7: ton of good work in practice.

978
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 5: He's a vet.

979
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 7: We've seen he has a ton of reps on tape.

980
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 7: So we'll get him some work in games coming up here.

981
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 7: But this one felt like the right decision was just

982
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 7: to take a look at some of the other guys.

983
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: Has he shown you a little more, maybe even as

984
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: a receiver than perhaps we expect. I only have the

985
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: five hundred yard season with the Chargers, but he's made

986
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: a lot of places.

987
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a guy that we really really trust. You

988
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 7: can put him out there really playing any position. You

989
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 7: know he's gonna do his job, do it at a

990
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 7: high level. Run his route, catch the ball. Pretty simple

991
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 7: thought process. But he's a guy that we're not saying

992
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 7: is just a returner. He can give us depth in

993
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 7: the wide receiver room.

994
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: One of the things I think is always cool about

995
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: it when I observe you coaching is when the legend

996
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: comes back, you're always so interested in talking with him.

997
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 3: I loved being a flyball when he came over and

998
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: talked to Bernie and I during that preseason practice. Well,

999
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: you have a legend back right now who's coaching the

1000
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: hof Joe Thomas and really has kind of taken to

1001
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: one under his wing, and it's been awesome watching. I

1002
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: know Joe's super thrilled to be doing it. It seems

1003
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: like the Wand is really thriving under his tutelage. That's

1004
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: gotta seem like a cool bonus. And Joe Batonia said,

1005
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: you guys are trying to pull together a fund to

1006
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 3: bring him in full time here. But what's it been

1007
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: like seeing Joe work and work with a guy like

1008
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 3: the Wand.

1009
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, coach Thomas as we call him, is doing a

1010
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 7: great job. Yeah, I don't think we can afford him unfortunately.

1011
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 3: Knows big rate, big rate coach.

1012
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 7: But Joe's Joe is obsessed with technique. He loves technique.

1013
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 7: I mean, he just he could talk it all day.

1014
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 7: So we're we're just taking we're pulling that out of him.

1015
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 7: And and certainly Dewan is a beneficiary. But I'll tell

1016
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 7: you our line coaches are loving having Joe around and

1017
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 7: just hearing how he talks about the game, the minutia

1018
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 7: of that position. I don't think the average viewer or

1019
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 7: listener gets a feel for that, and and how much

1020
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 7: goes into this these players along the offensive line. It

1021
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 7: can look thankless at times, it can look you know,

1022
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 7: just physical times, but there's a lot of thought that

1023
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 7: goes into it.

1024
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 5: And Joe's uh.

1025
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 7: Desire to pass along his knowledge of technique has been

1026
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 7: fun to watch.

1027
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: We got give me right next to us give me.

1028
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: I think we need to find the clip. There was

1029
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 3: a clip from Browns Daily a few years ago where

1030
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: I asked Joe simply the question, what went through your

1031
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: mind from the time the play was called to the

1032
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: time the ball was snapped? He talked twenty minutes NonStop

1033
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: about the checklists and now he'd get treel segs because

1034
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: of where his toe was. And he used to drive

1035
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: to like just the minutia for somebody that good and

1036
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: then to think that they're also a supercomputer and it's nuts.

1037
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's incredible. And again.

1038
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 7: All of that, what he's doing is trying to pass

1039
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 7: that along to our young players. Obviously, Dewan playing left

1040
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 7: tackle and Joe knows that position. Well, I think that's

1041
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 7: we're so lucky to be able to have a guy

1042
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 7: that can stand there talk to. Dewan has the credentials

1043
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 7: that you know, there's not very few have in the

1044
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 7: respect and it's been fun to watch.

1045
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 3: All Right, we'll get you out here on this one

1046
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 3: because I know we like one on ones and I'm

1047
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: sure you get in the film room after a joint

1048
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 3: practic and there's some good ones. Miles. The Eurostep was

1049
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 3: pretty good. But did Alex write? And so great to

1050
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: see him back. Basically flipping a guy, a human grown,

1051
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 3: a giant grown man over that had to get you

1052
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 3: pretty fired.

1053
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 5: Well. He did it in one on ones. He also

1054
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: did on Kickoff.

1055
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did flat somebody.

1056
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 7: Alex is he's a no, no fair dodge and he's

1057
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 7: going straight ahead and uh, you don't get get out

1058
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 7: of his way. But that's uh he's got a great

1059
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 7: skill set. Great to have him back out there healthy,

1060
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 7: but he plays the game really at one speed and

1061
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 7: you saw it the other day.

1062
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 3: For a guy like him, Take Isaiah, Joe, Tryan Shainka

1063
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: who's come in acquires looked good time. I mean, there's

1064
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: a lot that room has a lot of guys. Is

1065
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: this a real opportunity and it's a rotation Survey's gonna play,

1066
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 3: that's the way Jim does it. But you know you're

1067
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: gonna get a little bit against the starters. Like are

1068
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 3: those twelve plays where you see maybe guys who are

1069
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: in that mix for a role. Okay, now you're going

1070
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: against their starters. Is that some real good tape to

1071
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: try to pull out of here? Yeah?

1072
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 7: I think yes, it's all part of the evaluation. But

1073
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 7: but you're exactly right, those those back up that end

1074
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 7: position is extremely competitive and I like all those guys.

1075
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 7: They all play with great effort. So that's definitely one

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Speaker 7: to watch and they're gonna make tough decisions for us.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you're excited to see your team play some football

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Speaker 3: tomorrow night. Coach, Thanks for the time and best lucky Thanks.

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Speaker 2: When you turn on the television tonight, you will hear

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Speaker 2: the voice of the play by play announcer in the

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Speaker 2: preseason on the television side and things of the great

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Speaker 2: friend of the program, Chris Rose.

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Speaker 4: He joins me.

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Speaker 2: keep it twisted, Cleveland, Chris. We were trying to put this.

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Speaker 2: You've been around, You've done a lot of this stuff. Man,

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00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: this is such a unique experience tonight for a fifth

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Speaker 2: round pick. Essentially, Hey, here's the ball, enjoy the game,

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00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: Gonna get a ton of snaps.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's been clamoring for it. You're gonna get it.

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Speaker 2: Do you have anything like this in your career in

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00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: terms of what is otherwise a meaningless first preseason game

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00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: to have this type of juice behind it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So he's not the first, like fifth rounder or

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Speaker 8: whatever to start game one of a preseason. I mean

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00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 8: last year, for example, the Panthers started Jack Plumber, whom

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Speaker 8: I think you're gonna see plenty of tonight. So guys

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00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 8: have started when you're like, huh, okay, that's interesting. But

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Speaker 8: there has never been a player like this that I

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00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 8: can remember that has entered the NFL draft the way

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Speaker 8: that he did and now continues to be the narrative

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Speaker 8: that he is. No. I mean, there's nothing I cannot

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Speaker 8: come up with a name. I can't come up with

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00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 8: a situation in terms of a team that has been

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00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 8: searching for its quarterback. It feels like for the better

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00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,479
Speaker 8: part of three plus decades. It's just I cannot wait.

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Speaker 8: I think it's gonna be absolutely insane in a fun.

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Speaker 3: Way, Chris, what is it that you want to see

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00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: or you're hoping to see from Shador Sanders tonight?

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Speaker 8: So, by the way, I couldn't be invited down to

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Speaker 8: the room. It's you and Gibbie. And there's what happened, Nathan.

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Speaker 3: Now you could certainly come down. I'm in Gibbe's room.

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Speaker 3: Gibbe is gone. The only the person's been in here

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00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: so far is the housekeeper. Give's on the bus, and

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00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: then I got to take this comrax down. So I

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00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: don't even know if there's another head said here. To

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00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: be honest with you, I don't know what our capabilities are.

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Speaker 8: By the way, better leave, Better leave a tip for

1140
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 8: the for the house saying, let.

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00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 2: Me ask you guys a question. Do you guys tip

1142
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: daily or you tip at the end.

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00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: Of the stay, you tip at the end of this

1144
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 3: at the end of the day.

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Speaker 4: That's what I think too.

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00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: But then I the thing I was concerned about is

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Speaker 2: what if it's a different housekeeper, or do we just

1148
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: assume they all pool that.

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00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like uh servers and uh bus boys and

1150
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 8: bus girls. Right, you got pool?

1151
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: So I hope so because I did. I never know

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00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 2: what to do on that. I do what you guys do,

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00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 2: but I just some Every once in a while I

1154
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 2: think about it, I'm like, God, this is like day

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Speaker 2: three of a five night or like, am I sure

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00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: it's going to be the same person all the time?

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Speaker 5: I hope they?

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Speaker 8: After which drive? Do we have this discussion? Should Joe

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Speaker 8: Thomas and I have this discussion?

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Speaker 4: Do that when Shador goes out?

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Speaker 8: Ah? Nice build programming both.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm here for you. I'm here for you, buddy.

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00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 8: Hey, it's actually a legit question. It's really good.

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Speaker 4: What do you want to see from him tonight, suure,

1166
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 4: not Joe oh or.

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00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 8: The house cleaner? I'd like mince mince on the pillow.

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Speaker 8: They don't do that anymore. Thing of the past, good

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00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 8: callback Rose. So what do I want to see? I

1170
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 8: would like to see him stripe it a couple times.

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00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 8: I want to see some good throws downfield, you know,

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Speaker 8: I really do. But most importantly I want to see

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00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 8: that he looks like he belongs. Too. Often you get guys,

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Speaker 8: particularly guys who've been sacked a lot in college, try

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00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 8: and keep plays alive. Everything's got to be extended, the

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00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 8: philosophy of throw it away and live for another play.

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Speaker 8: Like what quarterback every year leads the NFL in throwing

1178
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Speaker 8: the ball away? Do you guys know what this is?

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00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 3: I guess is Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 8: No, it's always Aaron Rodgers, always interesting. He lives to

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00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 8: see another day, and that's why his interception numbers are

1182
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 8: always so low, when his touchdown numbers were through the roof,

1183
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 8: because he understood that the defense is going to screw

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Speaker 8: up at some point. It's a little bit. I hate

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00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 8: to mix sports because I know, Nathan, you're not a

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00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 8: huge baseball guy. But I was day I know, but

1187
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 8: not anyway. I about jumped through the phone when Desciliano

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00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 8: goes the other day that Gavin Williams is throwing a

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Speaker 8: no hitter, and you guys are like, who I wanted

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Speaker 8: to come to you guys, you.

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Speaker 3: Have to understand that is that's that's just yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah,

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00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 3: because he talks baseball all the time on our showing

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00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 3: where I was like well.

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Speaker 4: He tries to sneak it in. And so every time

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00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 4: is that it is that a team?

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Speaker 8: What is sport?

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Speaker 4: I don't even I don't know what that is?

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Speaker 8: Got it, got it, got it all right. The only

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Speaker 8: reason I'm doing a guys all U l A.

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Speaker 4: Guys just want to talk baseball all the time.

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Speaker 8: Not true. I'm using this as a football reference. Baseball

1202
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 8: guys will tell you the only way that home runs

1203
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 8: happen is when pitchers make mistakes. And a lot of

1204
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 8: times in the NFL, the defense will do something that

1205
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 8: will open the door for the offense. Sometimes it's an

1206
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 8: amazing throw, right, it happens, but occasionally something gets screwed up.

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Speaker 8: There's a community, so it's okay to live to see

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Speaker 8: another play. And I want to see that part of

1209
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 8: his game that would show maturation, that would show that, yes,

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Speaker 8: he's worked on something that was a shortcoming for him

1211
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Speaker 8: in college. Things of that Nature's he's not going to

1212
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 8: know it all tonight, right, we know that, and so

1213
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 8: that it's okay. You want to see him improve in

1214
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 8: an area or two, not in twelve.

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's right. I think to me, it's

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Speaker 3: kind of the pre snap operation in the huddle, getting

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00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 3: people lined up, all of that, and then post snap

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00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 3: right be to deve get rid of the football, don't

1219
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 3: hold on too long, don't try to make too many plays,

1220
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Speaker 3: and I think you know, come to Fancy is going

1221
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: to give him a play book tonight that are things

1222
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Speaker 3: that he's comfortable with and things that he they feel

1223
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Speaker 3: confident that he's going to be able to excuse him

1224
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: that he feels confident, and that's what we're going to

1225
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: get to see here tonight. Beyond Shador, which is obviously

1226
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 3: what I think everybody's eyes are upon. I mean, we've

1227
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 3: seen the ticket prices for this game are are ludicrous

1228
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: and more than a Carolina Panthers regular season game, So

1229
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 3: clearly that's what the majority want to see. The reality is,

1230
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 3: you know, he's not going to be the day one

1231
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: starter for the Cleveland Browns. Beyond that, what is it

1232
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 3: that you are really excited about to see tonight?

1233
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Speaker 8: I don't know how long either of them will play,

1234
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 8: but Mason Graham and Carson Schwetzinger, Yeah, you know the

1235
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 8: strength of this team is going to have to be

1236
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 8: that side of the football. And I know that Kevin

1237
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 8: Stefanski spoke glowingly about both of them. Nathan on the

1238
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 8: on the call we were on with him, and you know,

1239
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 8: he was saying that Mason Graham is a guy that

1240
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 8: you'll be able to line up next to Miles Garrett.

1241
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 8: I know some people when we drafted him were like, well,

1242
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 8: he was a read and react guy at Michigan, and

1243
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 8: can he really go forward or is he just a

1244
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 8: side to side dude that can hold the offensive lineman

1245
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 8: and then make a play. But I think that, you know,

1246
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 8: just because he did something well at Michigan doesn't mean

1247
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 8: that he can't do something exceptionally well in Jim Schwartz's defense,

1248
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 8: So is he going to become Aaron Donalds? Okay, probably

1249
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 8: not Aaron Donalds, kind of a one on one guy,

1250
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 8: and maybe that that's ever to play at the position.

1251
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 8: But can he create matchups for himself and Miles Garrett together,

1252
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 8: That's something that's appetizing. And then Carson Swessinger, Let's be honest,

1253
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 8: when we drafted him at the beginning of day two,

1254
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 8: people are like, Okay, interesting story, but off ball linebacker

1255
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 8: for the first pick when this team has other needs. Well,

1256
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 8: we all know that Joka, he's not going to be

1257
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 8: there in twenty twenty five at the very least. And

1258
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 8: then the Jordan Hicks thing came out of pretty much nowhere.

1259
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 8: So he goes from well, how's he going to fit

1260
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 8: in this room to damn, that's a good pick hopefully.

1261
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Speaker 8: And I really believe that this guy, he hasn't played

1262
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 8: a ton of football in terms of getting opportunity right.

1263
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 8: He was a walk on at UCLA. He rode the

1264
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 8: Pine and was a special teamer for years, and his

1265
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 8: one crack at starting, he lit the world on fire

1266
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 8: and did a great job for them. And I expect

1267
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 8: him to do the same. And I honestly believe that,

1268
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 8: like ten years down the line, we're going to look

1269
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 8: back at that pick and say, there's a few that

1270
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 8: we really got right. You know, after the first round,

1271
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 8: Nick Chubb and I think that a Carson Swesssinger might

1272
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 8: not be in the same breath, but you might look

1273
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 8: back at it and say, damn, good pick.

1274
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1275
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Speaker 2: And the crazy thing is, as you're talking about those guys, Chris,

1276
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: you say to yourself, boy, they all really need to

1277
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: be now. I mean, Mason Graham needs to be an

1278
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: absolute dude up front, like an impact maker right away.

1279
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: Sweesssinger is going to play. I mean he's good. I mean,

1280
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna play all the time. He's gonna start, He's

1281
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: gonna be gonna be one of the focal points, you know,

1282
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: of the defense. And then you stay in that rookie

1283
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: room because we're waiting on quinch On Judkins. We kind

1284
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: of all think the offense is going to be kind

1285
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: of built around his style, and he's obviously not here.

1286
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: I think about Fannin, like, so you're talking about a

1287
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: d tackle, a linebacker, and a tight end. And if

1288
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 2: going going back before we drafted, would I have thought

1289
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: those would be the position marks and the importance that

1290
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: they're going to play on the season.

1291
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: Probably not, that.

1292
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: Wouldn't have been on my Bengo card, but all three

1293
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: of them, to me, if we're gonna have success, they've

1294
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: got to be great and and you're gonna fans are

1295
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 2: gonna get their first look at those guys tonight, YEP.

1296
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 8: I mean, I think Harold fan is gonna be terrific

1297
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 8: in this offense. I really do. I'm excited in part

1298
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 8: because he reminds me like he runs a little bit

1299
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 8: the way that Carlos Bierga used to run in the

1300
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 8: nineties for the Indians once again. I know another baseball reference.

1301
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 3: Carlos BERGA now you're talking. Now you're talking. My that's

1302
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 3: my time frame. Now now I'm dialed in.

1303
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 8: But it's the only it's the only funny running that

1304
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 8: I can compare it to, because I'm kind of a

1305
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 8: funny runner. I'm more of a wabbler than anything else.

1306
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 8: The dudes who have kind of an unorthodox running style,

1307
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 8: I'm all in on, Like, I think there's a real

1308
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 8: big place in society for people like that. We need

1309
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 8: more of them. And so Harold Fan and go do

1310
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 8: your thing.

1311
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.

1312
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 2: You drop a Cory Snyder reference up on this show.

1313
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna be like Vince Vaughn and say,

1314
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: kindly leave, like if we get to that point. But

1315
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: where we're getting at and Allenson and Allen Andy.

1316
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 8: Allenson, I saw him, No, my brother met him at

1317
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 8: a high school baseball game in California. He looked over

1318
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 8: and he goes, he texts me, he goes, I think

1319
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 8: Andy Allenson is a parent on the other team. I

1320
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 8: was like, you have to go say hi, And sure

1321
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 8: enough he introduced himself. Andy Allenson loved every minute of it.

1322
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: Andy Allenson was on the wrong end and probably the

1323
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 3: expected end of There was a when I was a

1324
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 3: younger lad there was an A's Indians brawl and Mark

1325
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: Maguire got the better of Andy Allenson, which is probably

1326
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 3: no surprise in retrospect.

1327
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 8: Well yes, but it will never never compared to the

1328
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 8: pat Corrals attempting the karate kick against Dave Stewart that

1329
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 8: ended badly for the then Indians manager. Please go spin

1330
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 8: up that clip on YouTube, youngsters.

1331
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 3: I certainly well by the way, Dave Stewart was not

1332
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: a man.

1333
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 4: Who goes to Dave Stewart.

1334
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: Yet somebody, somebody is a glutton for been.

1335
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: Sure of going at Nolan. Come on, man, you can't

1336
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 4: do that.

1337
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So so we I think we this

1338
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: is all going to be the the I'm curious from

1339
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: your vantage point out out on the left coast because

1340
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: one thing that's been really frustrating and this will be

1341
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: about Shore tonight. I mean, we can act like it's

1342
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: about other things, but it's it's mostly gonna be about

1343
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 2: Shudre and one thing that's been frustrating Chris for us locally,

1344
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 2: and those are like Nathan I in the building obviously,

1345
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: the incredible disconnect. Be queen, what's actually happening with Shador

1346
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: and what is perceived to be?

1347
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 9: What?

1348
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 4: How do you think that?

1349
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: How did it get to this point where there's such

1350
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 2: a disconnect, and and what do you make of how

1351
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: the Browns have handled him?

1352
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 8: There's been a disconnect since day one, right, I mean

1353
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 8: it started in February when we were all at the combine.

1354
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 8: He didn't throw there, but we were all trying to

1355
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 8: figure out, Okay, well, there's a ton of teams in

1356
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 8: the top ten who need quarterbacks, Like, is somebody gonna

1357
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 8: come up and move? Like we feel like cam Ward

1358
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 8: is the number one guy. We're pretty sure that's the

1359
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 8: way it's going to go. But then you know the

1360
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 8: Browns are next. Well somebody like do they love Shador?

1361
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 8: Do they not? I mean, let's go back seven months,

1362
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 8: six months, and remember what happened there. We all there

1363
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 8: were there were way more people that thought he was

1364
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,479
Speaker 8: going to be a top five or top ten pick

1365
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 8: than thought he had any chance of forget about tumbling

1366
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 8: to the fifth round, but getting out of Night one,

1367
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 8: he wasn't going to get past Pittsburgh guys. That was

1368
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 8: not going to happen, not going to happen, And then

1369
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 8: all of a sudden it did. And I remember I

1370
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 8: was working the pre draft show with MJD and David Carr,

1371
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 8: and David Carr looked at me and he said, Chris,

1372
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 8: I'm not so sure he goes in the first two nights.

1373
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 8: I was like, Dcor, that can't possibly be. He said, no, dude,

1374
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 8: I'm serious, And sure enough he went day three. Well,

1375
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 8: there's still a lot of people that see him as

1376
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 8: the top five pick in the draft. Yeah, and they're

1377
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 8: not going to move off of that, and that's their prerogative.

1378
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 8: By the way, he might end up being that talented

1379
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 8: in the NFL. I think it's a lot longer shot,

1380
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 8: but it could happen. So that's where it all started.

1381
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 8: And then it continued with people who I believe are

1382
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 8: doing a disservice, and some of them are on National

1383
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 8: TV of saying that the Browns are miss managing him.

1384
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 8: He's a lottery ticket, guys. It's exactly famous lottery ticket,

1385
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 8: but he is a lottery ticket. And if I've done

1386
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 8: the research in the last ten drafts, if you include

1387
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 8: this one that we just had, that's dating back to

1388
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 8: twenty sixteen, there will only be three quarterbacks that were

1389
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 8: drafted after the first night that are going to start

1390
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 8: on opening weekend, assuming everybody's healthy. And the three are

1391
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts taken in round two, and oh, by the way,

1392
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 8: drafted after they had just given their starting quarterback one

1393
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 8: hundred million dollar deal. So everybody's like, Howie Roseman, what

1394
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 8: the hell are you doing? Dak Prescott who fell to

1395
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 8: the fourth round. I think he had a legal issue

1396
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 8: that dropped him to the fourth round, probably would have

1397
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 8: been a second rounder. And then Brock Purty, who's the

1398
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 8: greatest lottery ticket since Tom Bremer, who was the last

1399
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 8: pick in the draft. That's it. That is it. So

1400
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 8: to look at him I is anything but that to

1401
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 8: me is unhealthy. I'm not telling people how to look

1402
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 8: at it, but it's that's the way I see it. So, yes,

1403
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 8: it makes sense that he's fourth on the depth chart.

1404
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, listen, you're right about it. And we went

1405
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 3: through it last year. Of the teams that went to

1406
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 3: the playoffs, the only team that went to the playoffs

1407
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 3: that didn't have a quarterback drafted in the first round

1408
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: was the Super Bowl champions Philadelphia Eagles. In terms of

1409
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 3: and the Steelers last year World rust in the third.

1410
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 3: But and then maybe I was talking maybe it was

1411
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 3: the top twelve offenses. Do you remember what it was?

1412
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 3: But maybe it was top twelve offenses in the NFL.

1413
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 3: It was all first rounds except for Hurts, and six

1414
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 3: of them were first or second overall picks. That's what

1415
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 3: it was, top offense, right right, It's yeah, that's that's

1416
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 3: the league. And I guess Russ if he starts for

1417
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: the Giants technically would count as well. But it yeah,

1418
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 3: it is a lotder ticket. And that's the exact verbiage

1419
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 3: we've used on this program. I think that the disconnect

1420
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 3: for a lot of people is that when you watch

1421
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 3: him solely on tape, there was not a single person

1422
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 3: that we spoke to at the combine, and we talked

1423
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: to everybody at the combine who does this for a

1424
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 3: living that didn't view him as a first story, second

1425
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: round prospect, and yet he goes in the fifth round.

1426
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 3: So that tells you that there are things that are

1427
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 3: not readily apparent on tape that caused him to slide

1428
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 3: the way that he did. And so that's why we've

1429
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: heard he's got a bigger learning curve than Dylan Gabriel

1430
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: or maybe other rookies that are coming into the league.

1431
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 3: There's no doubt his tape at Colorado was good, very

1432
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 3: accurate with the football. Yes, you can say he held

1433
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 3: onto the ball too long, tried to make plays, was

1434
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 3: behind a bad offensive line, took too many sacks. Those

1435
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 3: are things that you want to see tonight that he's

1436
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 3: you know, made adjustments on absolutely, but it's going to

1437
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 3: be all the things that we don't see that are

1438
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 3: going to have a bigger say on whether or not

1439
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 3: Shad Door Sanders is able to become a starting quarterback

1440
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: and a successful one in the NFL. Then really what

1441
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 3: it is that we do see now, you would imagine

1442
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 3: that what we don't see will manifest itself in what

1443
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: we do see. But there's a lot that goes into

1444
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 3: playing that position. And I think that that's kind of

1445
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 3: the disservice that's been done is that he was you know,

1446
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 3: you had ranting and raving throughout this draft of what

1447
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 3: a Shaka was, and people who are very well respected,

1448
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 3: right mel Kiper was beside himself as this was unfolding.

1449
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 3: He was Bucky Brooks's top quarterback in this draft, So

1450
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: you have a lot of people that were surprised, and

1451
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 3: it's created kind of and he's already a ready made

1452
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 3: superstar in many ways that it's created. Probably the most

1453
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 3: unique there was a movie. They said, it's it's a

1454
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: perfect storm. It's the perfect storm of everything in this

1455
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: society coming to together for a preseason football game.

1456
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 8: So let's just look at it and accept it for

1457
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 8: what it should be tonight.

1458
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 3: Yep.

1459
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 8: And that is the celebration of a kid who has

1460
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 8: worked hard to get to where he is. He's going

1461
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 8: to get an opportunity. I don't know, regardless of how

1462
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 8: he plays, how much it moves, what the Browns think

1463
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 8: of him, I don't know. You would think you would

1464
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 8: presume that if he lights it up, if he throws

1465
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 8: for two hundred and eighty yards and a couple of

1466
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 8: touch downs and only gets sacked once and plays a

1467
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 8: clean game, well we know what everybody's going to be

1468
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 8: talking about Monday nationally. But it's so interesting what we

1469
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 8: think is noisy and what people inside of a professional

1470
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 8: sports organization think is noisy. It's really interesting because we think,

1471
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 8: oh my god, here's the title wave that's coming with

1472
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 8: what you drafted shador standers into a team that's looking

1473
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 8: for a franchise quarterback. They have to hear it. I

1474
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 8: don't think they do. I don't think I think they

1475
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 8: are have tunnel vision on what their process is. And

1476
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 8: we can sit here and criticize the process because we

1477
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 8: can see what has gone right and what's gone wrong

1478
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 8: on the field, so people can have an opinion about that.

1479
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 8: But about the stuff that we can't see, Nathan, that

1480
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 8: you just talked about, that stuff is so important and

1481
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 8: when it comes out of the mouths of people who

1482
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 8: have played the sport, to me, that's borderline irresponsible because

1483
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 8: then you're throwing out a new narrative out there that

1484
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 8: you know is not one percent accurate. Yeah, and that's

1485
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 8: a tough one. It's more than just an opinion. Then

1486
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 8: you're starting to dismiss some things they are facts, and

1487
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 8: that's a tough.

1488
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 2: Go buddy, enjoy it. Gonna be a fun one tonight.

1489
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: Look forward to to hearing you as we all watched,

1490
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 2: and I thank you for your time as always.

1491
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 8: Pal all right, I always appreciate it. And Nathan, you're

1492
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 8: gonna have to even though it's not your room, it's

1493
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 8: Gibbie's room. You're the one who's gonna have to leave

1494
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 8: the tip because your last one out.

1495
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 3: And we know Dan I will say, I do see,

1496
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 3: I see a bill. I do see a bill on

1497
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 3: his desk, So good job, Gibbey.

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Speaker 8: Well hold on, of course, if it's a single, then

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Speaker 8: we know where it was he mistakenly left.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, oh God, Rose just a side swipe of

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Speaker 2: Gibby when he's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: We're for it, for it.

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Speaker 8: I'm sure, I'm sure I'll be getting a text for

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Speaker 8: that one. All right, buddy boy.

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Speaker 2: There he goes Chris Rows, television play by play voice

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Speaker 2: Stepanci Show. Last night, the Radio Voice, So You're Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Andrew Siciliano breaking down a conversation with tight end

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Speaker 2: Harold Fannin junior before his first NFL game.

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Speaker 10: Right, Harold Fannin, you got real football, like a couple

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01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 10: weeks of training camp in the books. You guys got

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 10: the joint practice. But now on the eve of your

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Speaker 10: very first NFL game, how are you feeling? How excited

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01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 10: are you for this?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 9: I mean I'm feeling great, you know what I mean,

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01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 9: obviously very excited to get out there and go out

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01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 9: there and you know, just play football again.

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Speaker 5: And uh yeah, I mean that's really it's.

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01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 6: Really exciting, family, coming, friends, anyone.

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Speaker 10: I know it's the road and the rain in Charlotte

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01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 10: in the preseason, not a home game, but anyone gonna

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01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 10: be in the stands.

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01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 5: Uh No, but I know people are gonna be watching.

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01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,759
Speaker 10: So yeah, have you thought about I mean, I'm guessing

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01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 10: you did as a little kid, but now the moment's here.

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01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 10: Have you thought about like running out of the tunnel

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Speaker 10: for the very first time as an NFL player.

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01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 9: No, I never really thought that far, but obviously I'm here,

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01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 9: so you know, obviously now I'm thinking about it.

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01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely gonna be a dope.

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01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 6: Experience, anxious nerves at all. Man, I'm just ready to go.

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01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 9: Man, it's been a long wait, you know what I mean, Camp,

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 9: I'm just ready to go.

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01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 10: Did you get a little taste of it with the

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01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 10: joint practice, I mean, did that feel like kind of

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01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 10: a little bit of a move up in weight class

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Speaker 10: at all?

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01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 9: No?

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01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 5: I mean it just felt like practice. You know.

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01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 9: Obviously a game day, you know everybody's gonna be turned

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01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 9: up way more.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just ready for that.

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01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 10: So everyone always says they have their like welcome to

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Speaker 10: the NFL.

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 6: Wow moment.

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01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 9: Have you had that moment yet Oh where I was

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 9: just like, wow, not yet, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully I don't have it this game either.

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 6: You'll know it when you see it, right, Yeah, most definitely.

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01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Okay, So as we get ready for this game, have

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01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 10: you any idea how much you're gonna play?

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01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, obviously we're gonna rotate and things like that,

1572
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 9: you know, get all the guys in rep.

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01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 10: But yeah, I'm definitely playing this game. Yeah, okay, good,

1574
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 10: we're looking forward to that. Shitt Or is playing as well,

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01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 10: same rookie class here. Have you have you thought about

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01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 10: what that moment's going to be like for him? Pretty

1577
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 10: cool rookie quarterback getting his first start on the road

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Speaker 10: in the preseason.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean for him, I mean, that's definitely gonna

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01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 9: be dope, you know what I mean. Everybody asking all

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 9: the questions and you know, I guess tomorrow would be

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01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 9: the time for him to prove it.

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 10: You know, are you getting that like from friends and

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01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 10: family like what's the guy like?

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 8: Uh?

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01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean everybody you always want to know, you

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 9: know about the quarterbacks of the Browns. But I mean

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01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 9: tomorrow's just shot man, you know, I'm you know, I'm

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01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 9: behind him, obviously I'll be playing with them.

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01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 5: So we're gonna show it's.

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01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,719
Speaker 10: A shot for everybody here. Let's go back to the draft.

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01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 10: Andrew Berry said, do you play chess.

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01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 5: By the way? No? No, no, no.

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 10: Well, Andrew Berry called you the queen on the chessboard,

1595
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 10: Like the queen is the most powerful player on the board.

1596
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 10: Go left, can go right and go up, can go down,

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01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 10: could go diagonally, and and he said that you're the

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01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 10: queen of the chessboard because hey, you could stand up,

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01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 10: you can go out wide, you could put your hand down,

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Speaker 10: we could put you in the backfield, you could run

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01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 10: the jet suite.

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 6: You could do almost anything.

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01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 10: What's that like when you get out there during training

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01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 10: camp and you don't just have like a traditional tight

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01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 10: end role to learn, You're you're kind of learning every

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 10: bit of the offense.

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01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 9: I guess, just like I guess like learning the playbook

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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 9: might be a little bit distressful. But like when you

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 9: just when whenever we just hide the ball we play,

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01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 9: I mean, it's just football. At the end of the day,

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01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 9: I say, I guess I'm gonna have to, you know,

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01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 9: stay a little longer, get some extra work done. You know,

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01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 9: just actually know what I'm doing, how they want it done.

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 9: Things like that, but yeah, it's just football.

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01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 6: The other thing he said is people just.

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01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 10: Assume you're not a blocker because you've got these big stats.

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 10: But most people say when they look at tight ends

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 10: coming out of the draft that they want to see

1619
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 10: a willingness to block, right Like, as long as the

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01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 10: guy's able to as I say, like put his face

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01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 10: in the fan, like, be willing to block, then we

1622
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 10: can work with that player coming into the NFL.

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01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 6: How do you feel your blocking game is going?

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01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:58,760
Speaker 9: I feel like you described it perfect, you know what

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01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 9: I mean. It ain't pretty, but you know, obviously I

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01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 9: just got to get the job done, you know whatever,

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01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 9: to you know, help the team to win.

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01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 6: I mean you have to line up against Miles sometimes

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01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 6: in practice.

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01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 5: Right yeah?

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01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 8: Sometimes?

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01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 6: What's that been?

1634
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 5: Like?

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01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 9: Oh?

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01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 7: Man?

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 9: You know, I just sometimes you sitting there like, man,

1638
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 9: I hope he dropped back in coverage, which he never does.

1639
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 9: But it's definitely a learning experience. And obviously he's better

1640
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 9: than me because you know how great he is at.

1641
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 5: What are he doing?

1642
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 10: But you know you're not the only one, right Like

1643
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 10: if he beats you, like Dwan's got to deal with it.

1644
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 10: Joint practice yesterday, Iky Aquanu, the Panthers left tackle who's

1645
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 10: a former top ten pick, Like there was one move

1646
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 10: or like Miles, Miles kind of did a euro step

1647
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,919
Speaker 10: on him and the dude just whiffed.

1648
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 6: So, I mean, you're not alone.

1649
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 9: In this most definitely not. I mean everybody kind of

1650
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,839
Speaker 9: just got to experience it. But uh yeah, man, well Miles,

1651
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 9: you're not really thinking about you know, you know, you

1652
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 9: just really think I just need a hold up for

1653
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 9: this amount of time. You're not really thinking about blocking

1654
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 9: or dominating them in a pass or anything like that.

1655
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 10: Harold Fanner, what said the tight end room been like

1656
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 10: for you? What's David njok who taught you? If anything

1657
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 10: so far? He's he's got a big personality.

1658
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, I feel like just David h I definitely say

1659
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 9: like it's or around him. I definitely just he just

1660
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 9: kind of got to just want you to show your personality,

1661
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 9: you know, just be yourself really and you know, obviously

1662
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 9: working with them, you know, being on the field with

1663
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 9: them is you know, it's been awesome. Obviously got a

1664
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 9: lot of experience, so just trying to take you know,

1665
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 9: how he does his game and try.

1666
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 5: To kind of put that into my game.

1667
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 10: You're not gonna totally walk into his shoes, so to speak,

1668
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 10: like you're gonna keep your shirt on walking around the building.

1669
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 8: Right.

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01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, Yeah, not not that far. Just saw a little

1671
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 9: bit more personality, not that much.

1672
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 10: We'll hope to see some of that personality. Hope to

1673
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 10: see maybe even in the end zone as well. Harold

1674
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 10: fan in good luck in your NFL debut for the

1675
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 10: Browns against the Carolina Panthers.

1676
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 5: Yep, thank you, appreciate you are there.

1677
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 2: You go, Andrew with Harold Fannon Junior who will make

1678
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: his debut tonight as well.

1679
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 5: Well.

1680
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: Obviously the headliner issued Or Sanders, who will debut tonight.

1681
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 2: Bernie Cozar knows a little bit about debuts at the

1682
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: quarterback position.

1683
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 4: He will join us coming up next. You listen to

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Speaker 2: He is the iconic Bernie Cozart and he joins us there.

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Speaker 2: This is a fifth round pick. He's gonna get a

1701
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 2: ton of plays. We heard from the Coaching Show last

1702
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 2: night from Kevin Stefanski fifty reps or so for Shador.

1703
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Speaker 2: The ball has been given to him. Bernie, you one opportunity,

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Speaker 2: I would say, Shaudor has one tonight, my friend.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'd like to sit here today talking to you

1706
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 11: like this mature wise beecheran quarterback, But right now I

1707
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 11: feel like that little boy fanboy looking forward for the

1708
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 11: first preseason game. That's for a guy who played twelve

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Speaker 11: years in the NFL. I'm almost embarrassed to be saying

1710
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 11: how excited I am for a preseason game, but really,

1711
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Speaker 11: deep down, at the end of the day, I really am,

1712
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Speaker 11: and for Shadoor to get this opportunity tonight, I'm really

1713
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 11: looking forward to this. And Bo earlier in the week

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01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 11: when we were together talking about me, you and Nathan,

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01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 11: we are really concerned about horrible weather today and it

1716
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 11: hasn't been optimal the last couple of days. But it

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01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 11: looks like it's a positive weather day to day with

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01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 11: not a ton of rain and win, so it'll be

1719
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 11: a I believe it's kind of a fair representation for

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01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,839
Speaker 11: Shudre to kind of showcases resourcefulness that we've been seeing

1721
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 11: in training camp so far.

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01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 8: I'm really looking forward to it.

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01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 3: All right, Bernie, take us into kind of your mind.

1724
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,799
Speaker 3: What is it that you're watching for. Let's start pre snap.

1725
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 3: What are you going to be watching for for Shador

1726
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 3: Sanders pre snap tonight?

1727
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 11: So watching for the traditional things you would expect of

1728
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 11: confidence control, being on time, not the pre snap penalties,

1729
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 11: and not being overly rushed. But a lot of that

1730
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 11: goes about saying and maybe a big expectation knowing how

1731
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 11: in a preseason game without the starters, substitutions in any

1732
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 11: situation and even with experience, is a challenge. So that's

1733
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 11: that in itself is a challenge for it. But I'm

1734
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 11: kind of looking for, really how the evolution of his

1735
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,480
Speaker 11: game of trying.

1736
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 8: Not to do too much today.

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01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 11: I really like how in training camp he's been taken

1738
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 11: with the coach to Fansky system, is giving and playing

1739
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 11: within himself.

1740
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 8: And I.

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01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,480
Speaker 11: Besides kind of wanting to see that type of maturity

1742
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 11: and kind of confidence that he's showing in practice, I'd

1743
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 11: also like to see him kind of have that transfer

1744
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 11: obviously to the game tonight.

1745
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: Bernie, as you've observed all of uh, you know, quite

1746
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: most of his reps in training camp, what do you

1747
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 2: think Kevin and Kevin said last night in the coach

1748
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 2: we're going to put him in positions as many as

1749
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 2: we can. What what what? What does he What would

1750
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 2: that be? How would you define that like positions? What's

1751
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: what can Kevin do offensively based on what you've seen

1752
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 2: shudor do in camp that will lead to success tonight?

1753
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 11: Great question, and that's where there's a lot you could

1754
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:08,759
Speaker 11: do in preseason football at the end of my career,

1755
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 11: I was a little bit challenged in my athletic ability

1756
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 11: and my ability to be a top tier quarterback. So

1757
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:17,600
Speaker 11: I was able to really manipulate my plays and manipulate

1758
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 11: my personnel groups in my last two years in the

1759
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 11: league to actually fool people to be one of the

1760
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 11: highest rated preseason quarterbacks. So you can do certain strategic

1761
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 11: things within your play calling to really help things out

1762
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 11: in the play action game, in the screen game, and

1763
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 11: in the bootleg game. Those type things tend to work

1764
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,639
Speaker 11: really good in preseason anyways. That's a staple part of

1765
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 11: our system. So yes, he could. We could almost fabricate

1766
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 11: him looking good with those type plays that I bluntly

1767
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 11: was able to do for myself at the end of

1768
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 11: my career. Unfortunately, though, that sometimes doesn't give you the

1769
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 11: best chance to see who you are. And maybe we

1770
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 11: don't want to be giving up some of our easy

1771
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 11: plays because Cincinnati will be looking at this into three

1772
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 11: game breakdown, So there's a kind of a chess match

1773
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 11: of what plays are we showing because we want to

1774
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 11: see Shador look good, But we don't want to give

1775
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 11: up all of our easy good plays because we want

1776
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 11: to save those for the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson and

1777
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 11: Al Golden their new defensive coordinator. So it's a little

1778
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 11: bit of a balance, and I'm really looking forward to

1779
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 11: seeing how coach Safanski calls the plays for Shador, and

1780
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 11: I'm also looking forward to seeing what personnel guys we

1781
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 11: have with them, because the Panthers are playing their starters early.

1782
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 3: Bernie, and they will play those starters, and so those

1783
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 3: are going to be very valuable reps, I think early

1784
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: for this Browns offense and defense going against the starters

1785
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 3: of the Carolina Panthers. So I asked earlier about pre

1786
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 3: snap for Sudar. Post snap, what tells you that he's

1787
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 3: made progress and improved on some of the things that

1788
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 3: the Browns want to see him work on and that

1789
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 3: he wants to work on.

1790
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 11: So post snap is to me the really the differentiator

1791
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 11: of guys that you know are going to make it

1792
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 11: long run and eventually I believe all the quarterbacks be

1793
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 11: able to do that pre snap stuff no problem. But

1794
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 11: I'm absolutely excited. And it's not for fans, even myself

1795
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 11: not to panic if it doesn't materialize. But the reason

1796
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 11: why I'd like Shador Sanders coming out of or going

1797
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 11: into the draft and come watching him last year, Nathan,

1798
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 11: me and you talked about it on air or on air,

1799
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 11: and privately, I love his confidence and his hips and feet,

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01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 11: how calm they are right before he's about to get

1801
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,799
Speaker 11: wiped out and there's no threat of quarterbacking that accept

1802
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 11: in live situations. So this live situation, he's going to

1803
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 11: show him great maturity and present and confidence in the

1804
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 11: training camp pocket. He showed that awesomely in the college pocket.

1805
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 11: I love to see that tonight in an NFL preseason pocket,

1806
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 11: when that that that point two second throw right before

1807
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 11: you're about to get hit. Love him to see him

1808
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 11: make those throws like he's been throwing and then come

1809
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 11: out of this game all of our starters and our

1810
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 11: guys with no injuries.

1811
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: Bernie, what what do you about your preseason debut?

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01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 11: God, if that I thought I was in Buffalo and

1813
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 11: I was running a very similar offense to what I

1814
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 11: believe Schador and the Browns would be running this year.

1815
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 11: I was not smart enough at that point in my

1816
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 11: life to actually realize how blessed I was that that

1817
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 11: was helping me. Okay, and it did help me, And

1818
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 11: again I played it all these cool games, and I

1819
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 11: got so excited.

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01:24:58,240 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 6: I had it.

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01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 11: I did a bootleg to hit a first down at

1822
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 11: the end of my first preseason game against the Buffalo Bills,

1823
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 11: and I thought I'd won the super Bowl, and the

1824
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 11: awesome great Robert Jackson came up to me and goes, hey, bro,

1825
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 11: you're pretty excited for a preseason game. And I'm like,

1826
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 11: damn it. My coach told me to act like I

1827
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 11: did that before. Coach, I'm like trying to pretend to

1828
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 11: it's cool Miami quarterback and I'm jumping around like a

1829
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 11: little boy because I ran a bootleg and hit a

1830
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 11: flat for four yards, So I see. So I'd like

1831
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 11: to see caution, Shador and everybody. I mean, it's exciting,

1832
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 11: enjoy it. You will remember this forever, you know, or

1833
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 11: until the dementia hits you. So I go for it

1834
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 11: that I and embrace the moments.

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01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's going to be a special moment, buddy.

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01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: It's it's always a pleasure to have your perspective. Thank

1837
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: you so much for your time, and we'll all be

1838
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 2: watching tonight to see how all of this goes.

1839
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 4: Thanks buddy, look looking forward to you matter.

1840
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 11: Go Browns.

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01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,760
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Speaker 2: this is uh, this is the Shadoor Sanders debut.

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01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 4: It's uh.

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01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a lot of reps in this one.

1854
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,800
Speaker 2: There's a lot to look forward to. I think it's

1855
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 2: as unique a preseason game as you're ever gonna ever

1856
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 2: gonna have. And to to steal Z's analogy from earlier,

1857
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 2: it's a perfect storm that's allowed us to get to

1858
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: this point. You've seen every snap. You've seen it all, buddy,

1859
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 2: all preseason long, all training camp long. What are you

1860
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 2: looking for tonight? Offensively from the Cleveland Browns and specifically

1861
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 2: from Shure Sanders.

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01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 3: Well, I just want to see him get in and

1863
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 3: out of the huddle quickly. I want to see him

1864
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 3: have the command of the play calls in the huddle,

1865
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 3: being able to get that verbiage out to his team,

1866
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 3: get everybody lined up, and so that you're not up

1867
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 3: against the clock, so he's got some opportunity to assess

1868
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 3: the defense, assess what's out in front of him. You know,

1869
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 3: it's preseason, should be pretty vanilla, but I think that's

1870
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 3: first and foremost the operation of it. So I don't

1871
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 3: want to see pre snap penalties. I don't want to see,

1872
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, scrambling to get the playoff before zero, having

1873
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 3: to burn time outs. I want to see him get

1874
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,559
Speaker 3: the plays in, get them out to his teammates, and

1875
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 3: go quickly and efficiently, and then post snap, you know,

1876
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 3: I want him be decisive with the football. I want

1877
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 3: him to read it the way that he's been taught

1878
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 3: to read it. You know, if you get into those

1879
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 3: boot level concepts, read it top down, don't read it

1880
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 3: down up. Read it top down, because if that vertical

1881
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 3: is there, you take it. But if not, then you

1882
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 3: come down and you can get rid of the football.

1883
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 3: There was a play in the joint practice ins Carolina

1884
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 3: where he boot it out and I think he had

1885
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 3: Luke Floria wide open on the corner. He threw it

1886
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 3: underneath one, which is still positive play. But if you

1887
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 3: read that top down, that's a shop play. That's an

1888
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 3: opportunity there. I want him to be decisive with the football.

1889
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 3: Don't try to hold onto it too long, don't try

1890
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 3: to play hero ball. You know, we heard the stat

1891
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 3: earlier that Chris No doubt got from Pittsburgh Peepa about

1892
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers being, you know, leading the league and throwing

1893
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 3: the ball away every year and living to play another day.

1894
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 3: We don't want to see him take a lot of sacks.

1895
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 3: You want to see him be decisive. You want the

1896
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 3: ball come out quickly, on time, in rhythm. You'd like

1897
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 3: to see us get that run game going. Because I

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01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 3: really do think one thing that'll be interesting, how does

1899
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 3: he do with some of that hard back to the

1900
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 3: defense play action, not just the boots, but that hard

1901
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 3: play action that Joe Flacco is so good at and

1902
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 3: that you really help, you know, suck those linebackers down

1903
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 3: so you can hit the ball over the top of them.

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01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,400
Speaker 3: So it's really about that. We always a very accurate

1905
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 3: thrower when everything's in a rhythm. I want to see,

1906
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 3: you know, how does his velocity hold up in the

1907
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 3: intermediate You know, that's one of the questions that some

1908
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 3: people did have about him. And you know this NFL windows,

1909
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 3: these guys are going to be playing all out. I

1910
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 3: haven't seen a problem with tho. I see a guy

1911
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 3: who's incredibly accurate with the football, has more than enough arm.

1912
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 3: But you want to see that in the game. You know,

1913
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 3: sometimes in games you can revert to hap it's like

1914
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 3: throwing it off your back foot or not stepping into

1915
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 3: the throw and really ripping it. So I want to

1916
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 3: see him out there in this game situation. Do those

1917
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 3: things just be comfortable? There could be some sex. You know, listen,

1918
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 3: you get through backup offensive lines in the NFL. They're

1919
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 3: not that good. That's a problem around the league. But

1920
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 3: if he can be decisive what the football, be accurate

1921
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 3: with it, play within the structure, and operate this offense,

1922
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 3: you know, I think he's going to do well and

1923
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 3: it's going to be a lot of fun to watch.

1924
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's he's going to be put in a position

1925
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 2: to succeed, and I think he's ready for it. Some

1926
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Speaker 2: comments from Dion had an availability out of Colorado today

1927
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Speaker 2: and just that he's they've already talked three times. Like

1928
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 2: it's got to be a crazy thing for him. This's

1929
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 2: the first game that he's played. I don't even know

1930
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: since when where his dad's not the coach. I mean,

1931
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 2: it's his entire college career, most of his youth career,

1932
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 2: Like Dion coached him like this, this is new territory

1933
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Speaker 2: for him too. So it's a surreal thing that's going

1934
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Speaker 2: to happen tonight. It's it's really really cool. Beyond that though, there,

1935
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Speaker 2: you're gonna get a look at all of these rookies.

1936
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna need to see some depth guys. With the

1937
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 2: injury to mj Emerson, You're curious to see what some

1938
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 2: of those corners. We need those guys in a very

1939
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,719
Speaker 2: big way. You're gonna get to see Fannin, Mason Graham

1940
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Speaker 2: for a little bit. All of those things exciting, Hi, buddy,

1941
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Speaker 2: have a great call, my friend.

1942
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Speaker 4: I know that you will look forward to it.

1943
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Speaker 2: Here is your lineup tonight three right now, in fact,

1944
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Speaker 2: the Browns game day with Ken and Gerard, then five

1945
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Speaker 2: o'clock Browns Kickoff Show with Andy and Tayvas, and then

1946
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: at seven o'clock get His Kickoff from Bank of America

1947
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Speaker 2: Stadium in Charlotte. Andrew Girard and the great Z have

1948
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Speaker 2: a great call, brother, enjoy it.

1949
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Speaker 3: Thanks, brother, Let's go. They're going fun. A lot to

1950
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Speaker 3: watch here, the debut of Shadoor, the debut of all

1951
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Speaker 3: the rookies, Mason Graham, Carson Sweessenger, Harold Fan and Dylan Samson.

1952
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Speaker 3: Should be a good one for the Browns. Some good

1953
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Speaker 3: work tonight and obviously won Everybody stay healthy and let's

1954
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Speaker 3: go baby. It's really the start now feels like at

1955
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Speaker 3: the start of the twenty twenty five Cleveland brown season.

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Speaker 5: It's on now.

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Speaker 2: Brother, we are Black Bundy to break it all down.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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