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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's the year two thousand. The men's seventy

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Speaker 1: six kilo freestyle wrestling ceremony at the Summer Olympics in Australia.

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Speaker 1: In first place Alexander Leopold from Germany, in third place

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Speaker 1: Moonwee Jay from South Korea, and in second.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Slay born and raised in Amerlo, Texas. If you

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Speaker 2: see pictures of me on the word stand, I wasn't smiling,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't happy with my silver. I was frustrated. Anger

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Speaker 1: Anyone watching could tell Where the other two Olympians stood smiling,

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize that the fir with

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Speaker 2: the bronze just won. They guaranteed themselves an Olympic medal.

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Speaker 2: The person with the bronze is happy. The person who

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Speaker 1: To Brannon, silver medalists live in some sort of hinderland,

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Speaker 1: after enough time had passed for Brannan to make it

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Speaker 2: Enough time for me to go start speaking to kids

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Speaker 2: with my Olympic silver, telling them that I believe there's

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Speaker 1: Brandon got a call from the International Olympic Committee the IOC.

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Speaker 1: It was about a routine drug test he and his

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Speaker 2: They said Alexander Lee Polt was twenty times over for

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Speaker 2: a drug called nangelone. We've lapped his name, Clint from

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Speaker 2: the Olympics. We've taken away his Olympic gold medal. Congratulations

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Speaker 2: the two thousand Olympic champion.

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Speaker 1: Over the phone, when you learned that your metal got

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Speaker 3: What was going through your head?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't feel like I don't feel like I

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Speaker 1: Actually, when they told him he'd won gold, Brennan's first

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Speaker 2: I was like, is there any way I can wrestle

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Speaker 2: finally I think he gets frustrated with me. He's like,

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Speaker 2: he's like, mister Slade, do you want the gold medal

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Speaker 1: In the end, Brennan said yes to the gold medal.

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Speaker 2: But by the way, nothing changed in me. It's not

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Speaker 2: else making poor decisions.

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Speaker 1: There's something about Brandan's word choice here, gift. It's just

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Speaker 1: Really all he got was a different medal.

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Speaker 3: What did you do with the silver medal?

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Speaker 2: They made me mail that back FedEx to the International

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Speaker 2: Olympic Committee, And so you know I did.

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Speaker 1: From Kaleidoscope an iHeart podcast, This is Superhuman I'm Chris Guyamali.

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Speaker 1: So the Enhanced Games are coming up in just a

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Speaker 1: few weeks. At the end of May. Last October, my

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Speaker 1: producer Semini went to the University of Nevada, Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: to watch the enhanced swimmer's practice.

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Speaker 4: Trying to figure out which shortcakes up inside swimming.

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Speaker 1: But first we needed to actually find the aquatic center.

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Speaker 5: You remember.

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Speaker 1: To zero the stench of chlorine mixed with sweat and

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Speaker 1: someone's blasting throwback hip hop like Lil Wayne and Biggie

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Speaker 1: We got world in national record holders from Ukraine Brazil, Greece,

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Speaker 1: the first objective is mostly to help them get back

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Speaker 1: Brett Hawk, the same guy who trained James Magnuson a

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Speaker 6: No, today's definitely a power resistance workout, so they're going

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Speaker 1: And remember, these guys haven't even started doping yet. Who

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Speaker 1: There's length in places in the body where I didn't

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Speaker 1: The way that their heads are, It's like they have

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Speaker 1: Here in Las Vegas, Brett's and Hans team continues to grow.

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Speaker 1: name is Ben Proud, a thirty one year old former

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Speaker 6: Ben's just one of those very thoughtful, intelligent sprinters that

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Speaker 8: Watch, especially him. Ben Proud, Yeah, he's sick. He's a

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Speaker 1: Ben Proud was born to a pair of British expats

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Speaker 1: There in Malaysia, Ben says, swimming is the culture. You're

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Speaker 1: Ben told me it wasn't the Olympics that drove him.

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Speaker 8: Got after that good start as expected, but they swimming

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Speaker 1: Ben took second place, a silver medal, not the fastest

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Speaker 5: Sound like for foxs sake, like can't can't start any worse.

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Speaker 1: It was a rough morning for Ben. The time he'd

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Speaker 1: Ben Proud was about to turn thirty one. He just

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Speaker 1: To that point, his entire adult life had been committed

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Speaker 5: The clock.

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Speaker 6: Going to the back.

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Speaker 11: It's cool, al right.

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Speaker 9: Do you guys, You guys ever get like nervous before

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Speaker 9: I work out, just knowing it's going to kind of suck.

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Speaker 5: I'm nervous right now. He's the fifties to broken fifties.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like you get twenty seconds rest, but that

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Speaker 1: He's saying that twenty seconds of recovery in between sets

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Speaker 3: Andre's feeling it too.

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Speaker 2: So this morning we'll have the imitation of the race training.

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Speaker 1: They'll be mimicking race conditions sprints basically, and practicing that

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Speaker 3: It's brutal by design.

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Speaker 1: The thinking goes that by pushing yourself beyond exhaustion, you'll

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Speaker 4: The first reaction, healthy reaction is just to throw a flash,

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Speaker 1: Just before the turn off to the school's parking lot

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Speaker 1: Then Brett says it's time to get in.

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Speaker 11: The pool, all right, even young boy.

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Speaker 1: Well, their workout is disgusting and just sprint after sprint

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Speaker 7: Just the.

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Speaker 5: Just dig in like, dig in, do it like, don't

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Speaker 1: I should note that no one looks like they're having

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Speaker 1: a good time. The colors all drained out of their cheeks,

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Speaker 1: But for today anyway, everyone's in this together, just trying

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Speaker 1: She had just signed on with the Enhanced Games two

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Speaker 10: The first day, it was just it wasn't as bad

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Speaker 1: Explained, Megan was the first woman to sign on for

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Speaker 10: I'm coming off of nine years without doing anything swimming related,

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Speaker 4: That's going to take me a minute until I can

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Speaker 3: But when she was in her prime, Megan was a force.

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Speaker 12: Meghan is a six time Florida state swimming champion. She

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Speaker 1: This is a news story from twenty twelve a local

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Speaker 12: Meghan has collected so many trophies, metals, and plaques over

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Speaker 1: Megan was the definition of a child prodigy, so good

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Speaker 10: I mean, like, yes, I was going to school, but

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Speaker 1: After high school, Megan swam at the University of Georgia.

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Speaker 3: But when that was over, it's really.

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Speaker 10: Hard to go from competing as a team, trying to win.

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Speaker 10: from that to just completely solo on your own, being

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Speaker 10: So that transition was tough. I wasn't giving one hundred percent.

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Speaker 10: I was having like half fast days and I wasn't

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Speaker 10: That's a shitty feeling.

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Speaker 1: This is twenty fifteen. Megan was still under contract with

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Speaker 4: I knew I was done.

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Speaker 1: After fifteen plus years of clean eating and five am practices,

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Speaker 1: Megan wanted to do something totally understandable. She wanted a

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Speaker 1: So she went to exactly the best place to do that.

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Speaker 1: She went to Vegas. As it goes in Vegas, one

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Speaker 10: It was my first weekend and my college roommate she

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Speaker 10: like being in the DJ booth with Marshmallow, Like the

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Speaker 1: By the way, here's what happens when you ask Megan

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Speaker 10: Who's Marshmallow?

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Speaker 2: The DJ?

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Speaker 11: Wait?

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Speaker 10: Do you really know? I know who Marshmallow is.

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Speaker 4: He wears a marshmallow head.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Megan stayed in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: She loves going to parties, sports betting, and she's got

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Speaker 10: She's a makeup artist, a really big makeup artist out here,

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Speaker 1: Megan helps out with her girlfriend's business. When did you

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Speaker 1: first hear about Enhanced? And like, what was your initial

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a joke, Like I didn't think

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Speaker 1: When Enhanced signed red Hawk as some coach, he remembered Megan.

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Speaker 1: He'd coach back in Alabama, a couple hours from where

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Speaker 1: she went to school. They hadn't worked together, but he'd

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Speaker 1: seen firsthand what she could do in the pool, so

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Speaker 1: he called her up. The idea took some getting used to.

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Speaker 1: Megan had no experience with performance enhancing drugs pds for short.

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Speaker 10: It's crazy because PDS for me, it's just so taboo.

446
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Speaker 10: You don't even talk about it. Like I was scared

447
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Speaker 10: my whole career to take ibuprofen. Like I didn't take anything.

448
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Speaker 10: I was scared as shit to take anything.

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Speaker 1: This is a common theme among a lot of the

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Speaker 1: athletes we spoke with, how they're scared to fuck up

451
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Speaker 1: and accidentally takes something that gets them in trouble with water.

452
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Speaker 1: But then she spent time a few hours, she says,

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Speaker 1: talking with one of enhanced doctors. He explained the entire process,

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Speaker 1: that her protocol would be carefully catered to her body,

455
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Speaker 1: her unique biometrics and anyway. He told her she never

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Speaker 1: has to take anything she doesn't want to.

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Speaker 5: Do.

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Speaker 3: You have any lines that you're drawing in terms of

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Speaker 3: what you won't take.

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Speaker 10: As of right now, I haven't done enough research to

461
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Speaker 10: I'm just trying to get back in the pool and

462
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Speaker 10: get in shape.

463
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Speaker 1: Something Megan said that stands out back when she was

464
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Speaker 1: a clean swimmer subject to constant drug testing. Even though

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Speaker 1: she played by the rules, plenty of other swimmers didn't.

466
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Speaker 10: I definitely knew like I was racing some skeeduch people

467
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Speaker 10: and then actually come to find out. I'm not going

468
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Speaker 10: to say anyone's name, but like, come to find out

469
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Speaker 10: two years after I retired, this girl yeah by and

470
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Speaker 10: I'm like, new it. But that's crazy because it's like

471
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Speaker 10: taking metals away, taking prize money away.

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Speaker 4: Like looking back, I'm like, damn, Like they really.

473
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Speaker 3: Like messed up my career.

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Speaker 1: This has become a central argument for enhanced that the

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Speaker 1: IOC and World Anti Doping Agency have a tight grip

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Speaker 1: on athletes lives. They dictate what can and cannot be

477
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Speaker 1: eaten or drink, what medications are okay to take. Plus

478
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Speaker 1: whenever they feel like it, they can show up at

479
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Speaker 1: an athlete store step to demand a drug test. And

480
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Speaker 1: despite it all, we still see scandal after scandal after scandal.

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Speaker 10: New revelations about an elaborate scheme of alleged doping at

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Speaker 10: the twenty fourteen Winter Olympics.

483
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Speaker 12: The doping scandals surrounding Chinese Olympic swimmers is heating up

484
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Speaker 12: a report by China's.

485
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Speaker 1: And the ones breaking the rules, we don't always find

486
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Speaker 1: out about them, like in twenty twenty eight, when dozens

487
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Speaker 1: of swimmers competing for China at the Tokyo Games tested

488
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Speaker 1: positive for a drug called trimatazitin or TMZ, a ban

489
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Speaker 1: metabolic modulator. Basically, what it does is up a person's

490
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Speaker 1: tolerance for exercise. Athletes who use it can train for

491
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Speaker 1: longer with less fatigue or burnout. China's response to the

492
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Speaker 1: TMZ test, they said their swimmers had unknowingly ingested the

493
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Speaker 1: drug from contaminated food at a hotel, and water kept

494
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Speaker 1: it a secret. It wasn't until The New York Times

495
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Speaker 1: broke the story years later that anyone found out.

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Speaker 11: It is clear to me that any attempts of reform

497
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Speaker 11: at WATA have fallen short.

498
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Speaker 1: Here's swimmer Michael Phelps, the most decorated Olympian ever addressed

499
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Speaker 1: in Congress.

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Speaker 11: And there are still deeply rooted, systemic problems that prove

501
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Speaker 11: to be detrimental to the integrity of international sports and athletes'

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Speaker 11: rights to fair competition. Many of them will live with

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Speaker 11: the what ifs for the rest of their lives as athletes.

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Speaker 11: Our faith can no longer be blae findly placed in

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Speaker 11: the world of anti doping agency.

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Speaker 1: None of the swimmers implicated in the twenty twenty doping

507
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Speaker 1: scandal were banned by WADA, but anyone who's actually taking

508
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: peds for the enhanced games, and even Coach Hawk has

509
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Speaker 1: been banned for life. And it's not just about the

510
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Speaker 1: fear of getting caught. For many of US professional athletes, olympians,

511
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Speaker 1: little league coaches, recreational adult softball players, taking PDS enhancing

512
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Speaker 1: is cheating. The notion of fairplay is built into competition

513
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Speaker 1: at any level. On the international stage, national identity is

514
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Speaker 1: formed around us putting our very best up against your

515
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Speaker 1: very best to see how they perform on equal footing,

516
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Speaker 1: or at least that's the lofty goal. It may be

517
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Speaker 1: easy to forget how controversial what the enhanced athletes are

518
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Speaker 1: doing is for many of these sports. Swimming, for sure,

519
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Speaker 1: the entire conventional swimming world is up in arms. Remember

520
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Speaker 1: the lifeguard at the watching over the enhanced athletes training session,

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Speaker 1: the Ben Proud super fan.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of it's kind of like, my opinion is

523
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Speaker 8: kind of good, disrespectful. Well, I go like other athletes

524
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Speaker 8: and like, you know, there's a lot of zummers who

525
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Speaker 8: feel like this like long history and they've made swimming's

526
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Speaker 8: very good sports.

527
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Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like just idea, I know, I know,

528
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Speaker 1: like they he called it quote kind of disrespectful. What

529
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Speaker 1: they're doing. He told me he gets why they would

530
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Speaker 1: do it, saying it's good business, but it's still for

531
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Speaker 1: him difficult to reconcile. There's something Ben Proud showed me

532
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Speaker 1: and Sam while we were in Vegas on his computer.

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Speaker 5: I'll have this Excel street where or I try to

534
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Speaker 5: like go down every aspect of what happens during the race,

535
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Speaker 5: like every muscle, fiber that's twitching, like everything that goes

536
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Speaker 5: on the kinetic chain.

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Speaker 9: In ben spreadsheet, there are about three different tabs, each

538
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Speaker 9: with one hundred plus entries in each column tracking the

539
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Speaker 9: times he recorded that week in training, how different parts

540
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Speaker 9: of his body felt that day. Others include his speed

541
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Speaker 9: and his power output in the water. It's color coded

542
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Speaker 9: and meticulously organized.

543
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Speaker 5: So this is like my my training plan of based

544
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Speaker 5: on what we're doing from now. So, like you know,

545
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Speaker 5: we're October fifteenth, and we have right until the Enhanced

546
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Speaker 5: Games in May. So like this is my breakdown of

547
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Speaker 5: what's going to happen between now and then.

548
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Speaker 11: This is incredibly intricate, amazing here we have, Like so.

549
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 5: We've got on the block. It's the dive, it's the entry,

550
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 5: it's the fly kicks, it's the free swimming, physiology, and

551
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 5: body composition broken down into like everything.

552
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Speaker 9: He's a scientist with one test subject to experiment on himself.

553
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Speaker 1: At first, ben spreadsheets read to me like, I don't know.

554
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Speaker 1: He's the ultimate wellness influencer on my explore page, Like

555
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: he's doing exactly what the wellness influence industry prescribes, listening

556
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: to his body, noticing how it acts and interacts with

557
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Speaker 1: different places, different uses. There's notes about hip flex or

558
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Speaker 1: active range, and then the note on that is have

559
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Speaker 1: the ability to increase amplitude of kick. Wow, So you're

560
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Speaker 1: just this shows like such a level of being in

561
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Speaker 1: tune with your body.

562
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Speaker 9: Thoracic range test. Wow, this dude is measuring the amplitude

563
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Speaker 9: of his kick range. Not something I would ever have

564
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Speaker 9: even thought about. But I'm not this singularly focused. Ben

565
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 9: says when he isn't training, he's either playing an online

566
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Speaker 9: card game called Bolotro or facetiming with his girlfriend. Basically,

567
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 9: he's trapped in a hotel room. He doesn't go anywhere.

568
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Speaker 9: He just eats, sleeps, trains, and plays Bolotro.

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Speaker 6: At least us.

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Speaker 9: Remember Aaron Desusa, the founder of the Enhanced Games, who

571
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Speaker 9: says the event will effectively market the kinds of drugs

572
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Speaker 9: these athletes are using.

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Speaker 11: Everyone's going to say what is he on?

574
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Speaker 5: And how do I get it?

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Speaker 9: And in fact, recently I've been getting a bunch of

576
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Speaker 9: ads for official enhanced products with Ben shredded towardso filling

577
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 9: my screen. There are others with fellow and enhanced athlete

578
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 9: James Magnuson that read looks maxing isn't a trend, it's

579
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Speaker 9: just what's happening when you stop guessing and get specific.

580
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 9: But thinking about Ben Proud's life, it's monastic. Swimming is

581
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Speaker 9: all he's ever known, and it's really all he's ever done.

582
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Speaker 9: I just can't help but wonder would anyone want to

583
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 9: model their life after this? So we asked him, if

584
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Speaker 9: what enhanced is selling, at least in part is wellness,

585
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 9: isn't Ben actually a bad model for that?

586
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I agree with that. When I was giving

587
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: a lot of talks to younger people, I felt very

588
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: conflicted in telling these young athletes that they should follow

589
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Speaker 5: my footsteps. You know, look at me, you should follow

590
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Speaker 5: my footsteps because life is great, because very simply I

591
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 5: just didn't agree with my life being very great. Like

592
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Speaker 5: I started swimming. I left to be a simmer out

593
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Speaker 5: of a very difficult situation with my family, and I

594
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Speaker 5: was using that to escape my life.

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Speaker 10: And it's hard for me to wait, I thought, you

596
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 10: just left because you loved swimming, like you wanted you wanted.

597
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Speaker 1: To leave Malaysia.

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Speaker 9: That's Lena Masietsus, by the way, she's another producer on

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Speaker 9: the show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my parents are going through a very heavy divorce

601
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Speaker 5: and I wasn't speaking to my dad because he thought

602
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 5: would be better for the divorce process that we just

603
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 5: didn't speak. And that was a very critical moment where

604
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, I'm going to be

605
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Speaker 5: the best best Similars ever lived, as a as a

606
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 5: fuck you to my dad, very simply.

607
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Speaker 4: You're saying I'm going to become that good, that you're

608
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Speaker 4: the idiot.

609
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Speaker 5: For not talking to Yeah, and that and that thought.

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Speaker 5: You know, that spurred on like a three month period

611
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Speaker 5: of my life where I started to get into swimming,

612
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Speaker 5: and then when I left to pursue swimming, that's when

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Speaker 5: it became very lonely, very difficult, very you know, it

614
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 5: was very very tough for many many years. But that's

615
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Speaker 5: done to me, like I never resolved issues I had

616
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Speaker 5: growing up.

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Speaker 9: Recently, Chris and I circle back around to the topic

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Speaker 9: of Ben's spreadsheet.

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Speaker 1: Most of us don't know how we feel at any

620
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Speaker 1: given moment, Like, for instance, this morning, I woke up

621
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Speaker 1: and didn't realize like I had a shoulder pain until

622
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Speaker 1: I went to PT and they were like, oh, your shoulders,

623
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Speaker 1: like really fucked up?

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Speaker 3: Right now, Ben, I think through his spreadsheet, it's kind of.

625
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Speaker 1: Like an extreme exercise in control.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it read to me like somebody who found comfort

627
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Speaker 9: in the control that they could exert in the binary

628
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Speaker 9: of sports, where you win or you don't win, and

629
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Speaker 9: you cannot have that in other parts of your life.

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Speaker 9: In the same way what Chris said earlier about spreadsheets

631
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Speaker 9: proving Ben's in tune with his body, I think it's

632
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Speaker 9: more like he's trying to fine tune his body. A

633
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 9: tweak here, an adjustment there. Athletes at his level their

634
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Speaker 9: machines that need optimizing.

635
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, you do feel like a commodity.

636
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 9: Before enhanced When he was still a clean athlete. Ben

637
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 9: swam for Energy Standard of the International Swimming League, basically

638
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Speaker 9: a professional swim club. One of the eight competing members.

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Speaker 5: It was owned by a very very very wealthy billionaire,

640
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Speaker 5: and when he came round with his guest, his other friends,

641
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 5: you felt that he owned you. It made me feel

642
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 5: like a race horse. And we're just training ourselves speak

643
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Speaker 5: a good competitors so they can put in a good show.

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Speaker 5: I just remember many times when he would come round

645
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Speaker 5: and it would just feel like he was checking on

646
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Speaker 5: his his assets or his you know, belongings.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to Brandon Slagh, the Olympic

648
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: wrestler whose silver turned gold when it came out that

649
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: the other guy had doped. We asked him, what does

650
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Speaker 1: he think about what enhanced is doing.

651
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Speaker 2: It's dangerous and why are you willing to do It's

652
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: because you worship winning, because you're valuing being the best

653
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: in the world so much, you're willing to risk your life.

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Speaker 2: You want to risk your life just to win a

655
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Speaker 2: gold medal. That's not going to fulfill you anyway.

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Speaker 1: The enhanced games are risky, no matter how many doctors

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Speaker 1: they employ, how careful they're being, these games are without precedent.

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Speaker 1: There's no prototype, no pilot program. Anyone competing in May.

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Speaker 1: They are the guinea pigs. Ben Proud says that's not

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Speaker 1: lost on him.

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Speaker 5: I think we understand that we're in a position where

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Speaker 5: you know, we're still in some way being used. The

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Speaker 5: biggest differences that were being fairly compensated, and that was

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Speaker 5: never the case before, Whereas whereas now you can justify

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Speaker 5: these actions by by saying like it's worth it for me,

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Speaker 5: Like you know, I've taken all considerations of risks and

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Speaker 5: and I now feel a bit more of a draw

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Speaker 5: to do well for an art because they are looking

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Speaker 5: after us.

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Speaker 1: In other words, for the first time ever, Ben feels

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Speaker 1: like he's.

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Speaker 8: In on it, in it and.

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Speaker 5: Happy to provide my service. I guess.

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Speaker 1: For their entire professional lives so far, these athletes have

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Speaker 1: been the product, the raceources the assets what Enhance is doing.

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Speaker 1: It's not so different, it's just instead of being the products,

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Speaker 1: the athletes are now the ones selling them. Superhuman is

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Speaker 1: a Kaleidoscope production in partnership with iHeart Podcasts. The series

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Speaker 1: is produced, reported, and co hosted by Sam Egan. Lina

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Speaker 1: Messi's Mantle is our senior producer. Production support from Dara

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Speaker 1: Louk Potts, edited by Kate Osborne, editorial consulting from Adiza Egan,

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Speaker 1: Original composition and mixing by Hannis Brown. Reported and hosted

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Speaker 1: by me Chris Guayamali from Kaleidoscope. Our executive producers are

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Speaker 1: Kate Osborne, Oswa Lashin, Mangeshatikador and Khostis Linos. Julian Nutter

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