1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Alright, this is the Doug gottlie Show. Heres in the 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: bonus with Doug gottl. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: What up, Doug gottlieb shout Fox Sports Radio. It never 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: ever fails, never ever, never right, remember fails. 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: What is it? Ah, the decisions on a star pitcher 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: in baseball. I mean, like, look, the Brewers, it's kind 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: of what they've done. They have the opener, don't extend 8 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: the starter. But the Dodgers, and we'll get Jay steal 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: In on this, uh some as well. We got him 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: in on the on the radio show. But it never fails. 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: And you know, it's one of those things you're you 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: are damned if you do, damn if you don't. The 13 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: Dodgers Blake Snell was, I mean rolling right, twenty four up, 14 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: twenty four down, he picks off the only guy he 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: lets on with it hit. I mean, the whole thing 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: is fantastic. And then you get to the ninth inning 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: and you know, Dave Roberts came over to him and 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: said he was done. So it was they didn't do 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: the Pedro Martinez in two thousand and three, which is teleguy, 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: he's done. And then when you get you know, you 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: get an extra run. Then you add on You're like, well, 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: I'll go back out there close now. Now you know, 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: I don't know who makes the decision for the Dodgers. 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm very reasonable, and I think most people think that 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: this is these are decisions that are made from above 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: the pay grade of Dave Roberts. But it's interesting, like 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: there feels like there's a common sense element which continues 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 3: to be missing. And the common sense element is they 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: can't hit Blake's now now they have data that obviously 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: told them now is the time to make the change. 31 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 3: But I mean, he was so efficient and so unhittable, 32 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: and you have so many questions about the bullpen, and 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: all those questions you got the answer. 34 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: No. 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: I mean, let's just be honest. The Dodgers were very 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: very lucky, very very lucky. And Blake Sneill throws one 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: hundred and three pitches. It's a lot. Throws sixty nine strikes, 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 3: also a lot. So I mean you mean to tell 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: me that you can't You have a rookie closer in 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: Rookie Susaki, who you had earned the right to get 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: that spot. But he was super tight. He threw ten 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: strikes and twenty through two pitches and they end up 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: getting it out and they have to go to to 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: trying in order to save the day, and he again, frankly, 45 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: got really lucky, really lucky that they didn't step into 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: one and take a hit by pitch and then it's 47 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: a tie game and it probably spirals out of control 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: for the Dodgers. But that's a hard one, right, It's 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: a really hard one. Do you you know? Do you 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: and this is an honest question that I don't know 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: the answer to. Do you take him out and live 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: with the results of the bullpen and stick to your 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 3: process or do you? I mean, my thing would be 54 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: and this is in basketball. We have this. It's like 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: when do you sub when guys get tired? You know? 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: Do you sub before they get tired? Do you try 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: and time out as they're getting tired? Do you think 58 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: they get tired? Do you have a pre planned substitution 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: pattern or do you go by feel And you're like, well, 60 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: I know they're tired, but so is the other team. 61 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: And we have momentum. The Dodgers had momentum and the 62 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: the Brewers could not hit Blake Snow. It wasn't like 63 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: they were hitting him hard. And you know, they got 64 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: lucky with a couple of great defensive plays. They just 65 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: weren't ten strikeouts. They're not putting bats on balls. They 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: hadn't figured out his curveball, and he wasn't missing with it. Now. 67 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: The second thing that happens all the time is a 68 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: closer walks the first batter. Anytime like the walking the 69 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: first batter is a lot like the first person that 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: appears to not be a main character in a horror movie. 71 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: You know they're going to get murdered in that first scene. 72 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: Everything that happened last night between the Dodgers and the 73 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: Brewers going into and out of the ninth inning is 74 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: like out of Central casting. This is how it always happens. 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: We shouldn't act surprise. It was amazing. I feel bad 76 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: for the Brewers because they just hung in there, hung 77 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: in there, and the pitching wasn't bad. Giving up that 78 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 3: add on run, you know, ultimately was the difference. But 79 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: the leadoff walk, the way in which they played it, 80 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: step into it and you'd, you know, get hit by 81 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: a pitch instead you strike out. I don't know that 82 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: was That was as cliche an October baseball game as 83 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: you're going to get and oftentimes those games are the 84 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: ones that decide series and World Series champion. And so 85 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 3: my guess is that's what happens for the Dodgers. They escaped. 86 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: Now do they have a more or less faith in 87 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: their bullpen to day less? And we have no idea 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 3: what Blake Snell's gonna be like like second time round. 89 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: On the other hand, that's why they got Blake Snell 90 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 3: because he did that exact same thing to the Dodgers 91 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: in the COVID World Series, was completely unhittable, and then 92 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: his bullpen fell apart. Gotta love October Baseball. 93 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. 96 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: Let's get to what the Foxes and now Fox say 97 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: every day, This time the Doug Gotlby Show. In the 98 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 3: Bonus podcast, we played for you at previous portion of 99 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: a Fox Sports Warner Fox Sports Radio show. Here's our guy, 100 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 3: Rob Parker. He had this response to my rant on 101 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: James Franklin yesterday. 102 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 5: I'm gonna rag on Doug Gottlieb and I have to 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 5: what what's the name of a segment because Doug does 104 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 5: it on his show What does the Fox Say? He 105 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: listens to like what we might outtake, and then he 106 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: kind of takes us the task on his show, which 107 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 5: is fun. I'm good, this is all game. We're on 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 5: the air. And that has with James Franklin. What do 109 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 5: you think? Like he's so bent out of shape that 110 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: Penn State fired Ben frank Ben Franklin, James Franklin. 111 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 6: And and Doug. I get it. 112 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 5: Doug's a coach who hasn't won, so he's making it 113 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 5: like like he can say what ye. 114 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 6: As hard as he can make whatever. 115 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 5: I get it. But it sounds bad. It just sounds 116 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: bad because he's like, well, where's the honor in that? 117 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 5: And now blah blah blah, dude, And we say it 118 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: on this show all the time. Sports has a short 119 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 5: menu wins and losses, and when you don't win enough, 120 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 5: guess what you get fired? 121 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 6: So I get it. But Doug is. 122 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 5: Trying to like, oh my god, it's so James frankl 123 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 5: look at up what he's done and is that dumb? 124 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 6: That honor or whatever? Dude? Stop, Okay, I get it. 125 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 7: Doug. 126 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 5: You're a coach, You're a I know you have a 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 5: radio show, but you're a coach and you're team won 128 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 5: two games last year. 129 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 6: So he's trying to like, well, it's. 130 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 5: Not always about winning, no, no, dog, I hate to 131 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 5: break it to you. 132 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 6: It's about winning. 133 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: And when you win, you can do almost anything, and 134 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 5: they will bring you back. They'll bend over backwards, Calvin. 135 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 5: And when you don't win, guess what they go get 136 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 5: somebody else. 137 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: Okay, a couple of things Rob. First of all, I 138 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: do like Rob. Most of his takes contradict his other takes. 139 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: Or the example is he always wants to fire everybody. 140 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: He's a fire everybody guy, fire everybody guy, right, but 141 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: he here's the easy contradiction in Rob, which is he's 142 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: always called, uh, Tom Brady the luckiest guy of all time, 143 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: the lot right, luckiest of all time. And yet then 144 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: he says that Bill Belichick's a fraud. Right, So if 145 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: Brady was lucky and Belichick's a fraud, how the fuck 146 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: did they go to ten Super Bowls or nine Super 147 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: Bowls and win six of them? Doesn't make any sense. Okay. 148 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: The other part with Rob is he hadn't really been 149 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: around real sports respectfully. We won four games and while 150 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: that may sound like a infinitesimal amount, okay, not knowing 151 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: or understanding. I don't give a shit. Okay, Dick Bennett's 152 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: the greatest coach here. He won five games his first year, 153 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: lots of guys first year. When he got five guys, 154 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: and you get the job, you gotta throw a shit together. 155 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: This is not about being a coach. And this is 156 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: where he didn't listen to the entirety of the rant. 157 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: I didn't say, you can't fire James Franklin. Okay, you 158 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: want pay James Franklin fifty million dollars, not coach. Fuck 159 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 3: James Franklin, thank you. And as long as he doesn't 160 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: have as long as he doesn't have a clause where 161 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: he can go out, he doesn't have offset like he's great, 162 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 3: Like you wanna fire me, fine, fucking fire me. I'll 163 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: go get another job. Don't care. This is not about 164 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: getting again. You did not listen. You just maybe heard 165 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: a blip, which is okay. I don't know how has 166 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: played for him in studio. They might have just played 167 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: the part where I said Penn stand has Penn State 168 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 3: likes to purport themselves as being this honorable, holier than 169 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 3: now program, and they're not. They're just like everybody else. 170 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: It's about winning and losing, which is exactly what I said, 171 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: which actually is in lockstep with what Rob said. My 172 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: point is and remains, and I know it's fucking true 173 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: because I fucking live it. I know that if you 174 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: don't win, you get fired. I know you got to 175 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: build and get better and better. If you want to 176 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 3: say James Franklin hasn't won or James Franklin has Is 177 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 3: Penn State better now than when he took it over? Yes? 178 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: Are the Are they to the level that you expect 179 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 3: them to be? Maybe not? Okay, last year they got 180 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: to the College Wall Playoff. They won two games in 181 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: the Collegewell Playoff, So we obviously have no memory. And 182 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: that does not create any sort of equity within programs. 183 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: It's you have to win every year, is what you're saying, 184 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: which again is not really a reality. It's just not 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: because guys get hurt. 186 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 8: Right. 187 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: We could go through each of these different things and 188 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: we go like, all right, So like James Franklin, between 189 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: James Franklin being fired and being the head coach is 190 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: really one play versus organ That's it. That's how close 191 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: it was. You know, they lost in overtime to Oregon 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: at home. They don't lose that game. Who knows what 193 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: happens at UCLA and Northwestern again, it took the life 194 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: out of them. But that's okay. You're allowed to fire 195 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: James Franklin. You're allowed to fire Mike Gundy. You're allowed 196 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: to fire Deshaun Foster. You're allowed to fire all these guys. 197 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: But understanding the landscape of what you're actually doing, okay, 198 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: when you're in charge, just like when you're a coach, 199 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: just like when you're an administrator, Just like when you're 200 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: running a radio show and you get you're all emotional 201 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: and you're all fired up, you still have to have 202 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 3: the balance of Okay, how does this affect the entire 203 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: chess board? So in Rob Parker's mind, James Franklin loses. 204 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: He's a fucking loser. Get rid of him. Forget about 205 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: the fact that he won last year, Forget that the 206 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 3: program is way better than it was when he took 207 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: it over. He's had plenty of time and you want 208 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: to pay him fifty million dollars? Great, why'd you have 209 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 3: to fire him this week? Why? What good has been 210 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: done right when you're at when you're at Penn State, Okay, 211 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: you're not getting a new coach until you're going to 212 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: hire a sitting head coach. A sitting head coach now 213 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: if you already had one planned, or you want to 214 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: hire somebody early and you want to pay for them 215 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: and they can get ahead of it now, that would 216 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: be a very interesting plan and one that I could 217 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: probably get my head around, which is, hey, they hired 218 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: a guy in November and he's the sitting head coach, 219 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: and he's gonna be able to load up on players 220 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 3: and go around the country and recruit right, because you're 221 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: basically recruiting off other people's rosters and put together a portal, 222 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: put together staff, put together a plan, by my estimation, 223 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: the smartest way to get Penn State back quickly because 224 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: you just destroyed the program. Understand, when you fire a coach, 225 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: especially mid season, you have fucking destroyed the program. You 226 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 3: have lit a match and that thing is on fire. 227 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: And you may be okay with that, okay, but understand 228 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: what that means. That means you are not gonna be 229 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 3: good this year, You're not gonna be good next year, 230 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: and you're hoping that two years from now you can 231 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: get back to being the level that you're at now. 232 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: And you're like, wait, how do you know that? Because 233 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: you're gonna have to get seventy new guys, you'll have 234 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: twenty or twenty five that love Penn State that want 235 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: to stay there. The rest of them are like, fuck this, 236 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: I'm out. And because you fired James Franklin already that 237 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: everybody who has eligibility has been contacted by somebody already. 238 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: They're all in the portal. Even though they changed the 239 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: rule and said they can't get in the portal the 240 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: thirty day portal window. Anyway, it doesn't matter. They're all 241 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 3: out there, they're all get in contact. You've lost your 242 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: entire roster. So the only way to soften that. And 243 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: I again, I'm only saying this because I actually know 244 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: what the fuck I'm talking about. If I could do 245 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: it again, Hey, I got hired late, but I should 246 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: have hired a quality D two head coach, not just 247 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 3: help me coach, but to bring his team with him 248 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: so that we have some culture, so that we have 249 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: some balance, so that we have a way in which 250 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: we do things. Because the first year, when you go 251 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: out and you get to the portal. You still haven't 252 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: figured out your place, you haven't figured out your league, 253 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: you haven't figured out the money, you haven't figured anything out. 254 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: It's the first year is really hard. Bill Belichick's like, 255 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: do we think Bill Belichick's a fucking idiot? No, this 256 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 3: team done any good? Why because they didn't have any 257 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 3: understanding of putting together team, what it was gonna look like, 258 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: what the level's like, what's it like in the portal? 259 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: Who do you want to recruit? It takes time. You 260 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: don't automatically wake up in this whole new landscape and 261 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: figured the fuck out. So if you're gonna hire Matt 262 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: Ruhle from Nebraska, Okay, that isn't gonna happen. Between now 263 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: and when Nebraska last game of the season, nothing changes. 264 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: The only thing you've done is light a match to 265 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: this season and told those players we don't give a 266 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: fuck about you and your college experience. That's what you've 267 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: told them. And what I'm saying to you, Rob is that. 268 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: And I know because I've been to these institutions and 269 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: I actually drink the kool aid right again. And some 270 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 3: of this is to Mike Gundy firing, Like there's literally 271 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: fifteen thousand people in it that go to the games 272 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: at Oklahoma State. Now the whole season they're sold out. 273 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: It's like sixty thousand people. They get like fifteen to 274 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: twenty thousand people. And again, if you don't know, you're like, well, 275 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: Mike Gundy sucks. Well, now he was a great coach, 276 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden they're not good. Why 277 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: didn't have any money previously and this year they got 278 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: some money, didn't have a great team, but the quarterback 279 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: got hurt three series into the season, and they paid 280 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: the quarterback like a million and he comes over with 281 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator. You take away the quarterback, and now 282 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: of a sudden they don't have a quality back up 283 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: and now they're on the third string and all they 284 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: had was walk ons because they ran out of money, 285 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: so they put a wide receiver at quarterback last game. 286 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: In other words, it's a complete shit show. They have 287 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: a terrible football team from what was a great program. 288 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: Now does that mean they would have been better with 289 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: Mike Gundy? Modestly, but you you told they've also had 290 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: three or four guys put themselves in the portal before 291 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: this new rules passed, So you've told those players, you're 292 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: done here. We don't give a shit about you. And 293 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: by the way, my Gundy is one of your most 294 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: famous lums and been there for twenty years, Like, did 295 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: you really have to fire him? Did you have to 296 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: go to him? Suppose they went to him like, hey, 297 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: you can coach out the year, will itch and you 298 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: can retire or will fire you? Now, why did you 299 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: have to go to him? Just if you're gonna fire him, 300 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: just wait till the end of the year and say, hey, 301 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: senior night, last game, we're done here, we'll pay you 302 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: the check. Why do you why'd you have to be 303 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: so impetuous? What so you can go and evaluate Zach Robinson, 304 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: who's the offensive coordinator and was a great quarterback and player, 305 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: and his mom's an alum and he's an alum. No, 306 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: you could have done that anyway. And by the way, 307 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: you're gonna ask Zach Robinson to leave his team in 308 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: Atlanta and all of a sudden get into the portal 309 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: Like maybe, but that's a hard one. What if they're 310 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: in the playoff runt? So my point, Rob is that 311 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: in addition to getting our record wrong, and while you 312 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: think four wins is shitty, four wins is not good enough. 313 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: The one difference in US and many other teams at 314 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 3: our level was we had four wins and injuries and 315 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make excuse for it, but they were 316 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: four Division one wins. Most teams that finished with five 317 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: or six or seven wins, they have three or four 318 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: non Division one wins. We didn't have any last year, 319 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: only played one nine one. We lost. But it's because 320 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: I understand how it all actually works. I understand how 321 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: hard that first year is of putting these together in 322 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: the portal. And I understand that when you sell a 323 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: you sell kids play on a belief in a place 324 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: being different than others. You've completely destroyed it with your actions. 325 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: So I have never said you can't fire coaches. We 326 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: are all as coaches, just coaching until we get fired. 327 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: We get it. Okay, that's the job. It's the job, 328 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: it's a reality, it's a and and the only as 329 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 3: I said yesterday in a rant which went viral on 330 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: social media, the only unforgivable sin in coaching. I don't 331 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: abide by this. Whatever is winning or losing, unforgivable sin 332 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: is losing. Don't believe me, guys have cheated their brains 333 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: out and got plenty of plenty of jobs. I have 334 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: plenty of jobs. Just win, baby. But the point is, 335 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: if you think James Franklin can't win, then why do 336 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: you win two big playoff games last year. If you 337 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: want to fire them, you can just wait until a 338 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 3: more appropriate time and he can go through senior night, 339 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 3: he can coach out his team, he can shake all 340 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: their hands, and then there's still a connection to the university. Instead, 341 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: because donors are super bitter about the money that they 342 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 3: spent on the team and it not coming to national 343 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: championship fruition, they get mad and say, fire this guy 344 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 3: now where I'm pulling my money, and athletic directors know 345 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: they no longer have the power, so they fire these 346 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: guys unwittingly, completely destroying any connection between alma mater or 347 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: the school and the player because now a good portion 348 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 3: of players are bitter and oh yeah, by the way, 349 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: those are your best salesmen to get your next players. 350 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 3: Think about this, Okay, James frank is gonna get fifty 351 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 3: million dollars. His staff's all going to get paid out. 352 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 3: If you had just waited and their schedules really difficult, 353 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: if you had waited, and they win a couple games whatever, 354 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 3: and you fire him at the end of the year. Okay, 355 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 3: but you handle it with supreme class, and he say, coach, 356 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 3: this is gonna be your last game. We want you 357 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: to enjoy senior Night, Invite anybody you want. This is 358 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: the decision we made. We want to let you coach 359 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: out the season. It's really really hard to argue with 360 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: that and with the players, because the players know how 361 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: it ends is more important than how it starts. So 362 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: my thing is, you've destroyed the program for a good 363 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: two years, and you've destroyed any connection between university and 364 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: player because a lot of players are better because the 365 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: players are like, dude, we lost the game, and then 366 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 3: you just fire the coach. Here's Dan Patrick talking about 367 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 3: Brian Callahan's firing and removing head coaches during with young 368 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 3: developing quarterbacks. 369 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 9: It's not fair to these quarterbacks. You know, Caleb Williams, 370 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 9: he's got some bad habits. But you know, remember Matt 371 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 9: eberflus I said you got to give him stability. I 372 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 9: didn't think he was a great coach, but if you're 373 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 9: going to keep him in there to have stability, great. 374 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 9: But these owners bring their coaches back and then they 375 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 9: get rid of them halfway through the season. Was it 376 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 9: that tenuous to begin with? And if it was, then 377 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 9: don't bring him back. You're looking at these quarterbacks and 378 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 9: you're going, hey, go out there and be a star. 379 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 9: You know, Trevor Lawrence, he had Urban Meyer, Bryce Young, 380 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 9: Frank Reich, Caleb Williams, Matt Eberfluse, cam Ward, Brian Callahan. 381 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 9: Do you see a theme here? You draft a quarterback 382 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 9: and then you have a coach, and then you fire 383 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 9: your coach. Four quarterbacks taken first overall have had their 384 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 9: head coach fired during their rookie season. 385 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: That's the last four. 386 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 3: I would say that. The one thing I agree again, 387 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: this is another one, like they're not very good, but 388 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: you're firing a guy who you brought him in because 389 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: he was a quarterback coach. You brought him in because 390 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: he was an offensive coordinator, like he should be Ward's guy. 391 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: The problem they ran into is Callahan was tired by 392 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: a different general manager than the one who's the general 393 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: manager now, a different president whatever, and so they wanted 394 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 3: to bring in their guy. And again I don't understand 395 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: that one either, Like, dude, do the Titans think they're 396 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: gonna be good all of a sudden, but nobody wants 397 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: to accept blame for the fact that they've had you know, 398 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 3: three three general managers in like the last four years, 399 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: and so you have a mishmasha parts around him. I 400 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: do think you can do this in pro football because 401 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: you're not signing with the team to play for a 402 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: head coach. I think the part that Dan's pointing out, 403 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: which is very smart, is wait, the reason that he 404 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: is the head coach is because of his work with quarterbacks. 405 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: And now, you know, a handful of games into a 406 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: rookies first season, you're already changing. You know, the language 407 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: that the quarterback is going to get in his ear. 408 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 3: Here's Colin Cowhert talking about the Bears and Ben Johnson 409 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 3: last night. 410 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 10: Is what the Bear should look like on most Sundays 411 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 10: or Mondays. That's what they should look like. Explosive. Man, 412 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 10: When your kid's gotten f's and d's, A B minus 413 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 10: feels pretty good, You're not gonna call the teacher, have 414 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 10: a parent teacher meeting. 415 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: B minus. 416 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 10: You'll settle for so. 417 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it. 418 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 10: They're better statistically, their production's better, the look is better, 419 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 10: the vibe is better. The energy last night, I mean 420 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 10: they were coming out of their uniforms. They were flying 421 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 10: all over the field. Caleb Williams was good enough. He's 422 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 10: never going to be sixty nine percent completion guy. His 423 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 10: ball placement is still mid, but he's gifted. He makes 424 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 10: all the throws. Last year they averaged eighteen point two. 425 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 10: This year twenty five point two. So between the organizational 426 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 10: structure improvement, the play design, and the play calling, the 427 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 10: Chicago Bears have found their coach and he's worth about 428 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 10: a touchdown a game. 429 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 3: To Caleb Williams, the last night was really really impressive win, 430 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: really impressive win. And they are They're three and two 431 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: and this is a team that has won their last 432 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: three games. But we also have to catch our breath 433 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: and go okay. Commanders are okay, not great this year. 434 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 3: They got the Saints next, they have to win that game. 435 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: Saints are terrible. They're playing at home. Then they have 436 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: the Ravens who are down, but the Ravens are be 437 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: coming off a bye week and Lamar Jackson should be back. 438 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 3: Then the Bengals, who obviously are down. They have a 439 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: super soft schedule, a great opportunity. Again, I don't want 440 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 3: to judge Ben Johnson based upon his first five games 441 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: as head coach, nor should we judge Kayleb Williams based 442 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 3: upon his first five games playing for Ben Johnson as 443 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 3: head coach. That's part of the problem. You have to 444 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 3: give things time to marinate. But keep in mind the 445 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 3: Bears back endo their schedule right, Steelers at Viking, Steelers 446 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: at Eagles at Packers, Browns, Packers at Niners. Although Niners 447 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 3: are depleted by injury, then Lions who destroyed them last time. 448 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: So we'll get tough down the stretch. But they can 449 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 3: build up a little barrier there and may become a 450 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: playoff team. That's what the Fox said say. 451 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 452 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 453 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 454 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: Find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart. 455 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying, Hey, Doug. 456 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 7: We witnessed something yesterday that you almost never witness It 457 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 7: is Mike Tomlin calling out a the GM of a 458 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 7: division opponent when he talked about Andrew Berry, the GM 459 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 7: of the Browns trading Flacco in Division last week. 460 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 8: You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me. 461 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 8: Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us, 462 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 8: because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a 463 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 8: quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening 464 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 8: day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area. 465 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 8: But that's just my personal. 466 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 7: Feeling, which is great. I think Tom wins speaking his mind. 467 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 7: There's been a lot of theories on why he would 468 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 7: do this. I think I heard j Mack earlier say 469 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 7: that he must be afraid of the Bengals in Flacco, 470 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 7: which that's a weird one. My theory is that the 471 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 7: Browns are a laughing stock. You go back to almost 472 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 7: every decision they've made about the quarterback, beginning with the 473 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 7: torment and end of Baker Mayfield, bringing in a someone 474 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 7: that the commissioner called a what do you call that 475 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 7: predator as a quarterback, giving him the most guaranteed money 476 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 7: in the history of football, and then the quarterback what 477 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 7: do you call it? Mary go round that's happened with 478 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 7: this with this franchise over the past year. You put 479 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 7: Shador Sanders getting drafted in the fifth round after you 480 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 7: took a third rounder, the decision makers with the Browns 481 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 7: are laughing stock so much that it's risen to the 482 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 7: level that an opposing head coach is willing to make 483 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 7: fun of it. 484 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy, But I like, I don't. I don't 485 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 3: think he was making fun of it. I think he's pissed. 486 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 3: I think he's pissed. He's like that, you're giving them life, 487 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: You're giving them a chance. Why would you give them 488 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 3: a chance? That makes no sense. And we said at 489 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: the time, it's not crazy, it's the Browns. 490 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 6: What else? 491 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 7: Aaron Glenn has become maybe my favorite subject. What's his name? 492 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 7: Oj Mayo? And uh, what was the head coach that 493 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 7: they brought in, Urban Meyer? They didn't last more than 494 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 7: a year? Right, Mayo actually lasted to the end of 495 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 7: the year. Meyer did not. I have a feeling Aaron 496 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 7: Glen is going to go into that same category. I 497 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 7: just have a feel. And this is a kind of 498 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 7: a one hit wonder, one year wonder. And it isn't 499 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 7: necessarily because he's a bad coach. I have no idea 500 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 7: about that. That's not my expertise. What my expertise is 501 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 7: is reading how coaches are dealing with the media. This 502 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 7: isn't Detroit anymore. He spent most of the game after 503 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 7: the game on Sunday kind of condescending the New York 504 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 7: media when they were asking very acceptable questions about how 505 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 7: he handled the clock management, how he handled the last 506 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 7: play of the game, How you know is he thinking 507 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 7: about making a move with his starting quarterback that had 508 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 7: a net negative seven yards on Sunday, all these are 509 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 7: reasonable questions, and Aaron Glenn condescended his way through the 510 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 7: entire press conference, and then all of a sudden, I 511 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 7: don't know if the GM got in his ear or 512 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 7: the owner got in his ear, or he slept on it, 513 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 7: and he just got a bout of good conscience, but 514 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 7: all of a sudden, Remember, Aaron Glenn said on Sunday 515 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 7: that he fully thought that the play at the end 516 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 7: of the first half where they didn't even get a 517 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 7: playoff and they just went to the half without trying 518 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 7: the Hail Mary, that was the call. And he condescended 519 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 7: the New York media saying that that was my call 520 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 7: and I stand by that, and then yesterday he said 521 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 7: the opposite. 522 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 11: At that point, I thought it was a lot of 523 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 11: confusion going on because first down, no first down? I say, guys, 524 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 11: let's just get out the half right because we're getting 525 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 11: the ball in the second half. But yes, but I 526 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 11: would say, if I could take man, let's run it down. 527 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 11: Let's get ready to throw the hill. 528 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: Mary. 529 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 11: So I'm with you on that. That's a mistake that 530 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 11: I made, and I hold myself accountable for that. 531 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 7: This guy has become a circus. I know he told 532 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 7: the new players that is opening press conference, buckle up 533 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 7: for this ride. The ride is that you're going up 534 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 7: and down with the New York media, and that could 535 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 7: only mean that you're not going to last one. Like 536 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 7: you need to either learn how to deal with this 537 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 7: stuff or get it right. 538 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: Doug, agree with you. I totally agree with you. He 539 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: sounds fairly clownish there in his but I look I 540 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 3: like that he owned it. I just don't know why 541 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: it took him two days to own it. Well, he 542 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: didn't know in the during the time. Again, there are guys, 543 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,239 Speaker 3: let me just point out something I don't know if 544 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: you know. In twenty ten, In twenty ten, Duke won 545 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: the national championship. That's when Gordon Hayward missed the half 546 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: court shot went off the back rim. But the reason 547 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: that Gordon Hayward shot would have won the game was 548 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: because Mike Skrzyzewski, I think it's Brian Zubek was the 549 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: starting center for Duke. He made the first free throw 550 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: and Duke told him to miss the second free throw intentionally. 551 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: And the logic behind it, I guess, was that if 552 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: you give Butler the ball out of bounds, Brad Stevens 553 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: got like the best in bounced plays, and this start 554 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: as soon as you rebound the ball, it starts the clock, 555 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: so it shortens the amount of time you have to 556 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: get a shot off. The problem with that logic is 557 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: it didn't take score into effect. Where the rule I 558 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: believe and I think coach Ka believes now is if 559 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: you have a chance to get to three, well, then 560 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: you get it to three. Always. If it's one to two, 561 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: then you miss the free throw right because you want 562 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 3: the clock to start and it shortens the amount of 563 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: time he got play defense, which increases the likelihood of 564 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: a win. But if it's two to three, you make 565 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: the free throw because then even if he throws in 566 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: the half court shot, you go to overtime. The point 567 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: is that Mike Krzyzewsky is arguably or inarguably the greatest 568 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: college basketball coach ever. He's been the coach of Team 569 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 3: USA's Redeemed team, and he fucked it up. And if 570 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: you listen to the postgame commentary act where he's like, yeah, 571 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: that's what we did. I don't know if we do 572 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 3: it again. That was his way. And I'm sure if 573 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: you asked him like a month later, you'd be like, yeah, 574 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: we should have done that. So I bring that up 575 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: because even the best will make mistakes. This one feels 576 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: a little bit egregious because all of us know you 577 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: line up for the Hail Mary. I don't mind that 578 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: he admitted the mistake. It was a little bit more 579 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: of the defiance in it exactly right, and the way 580 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: in which he he didn't, Hey, you know, I might. 581 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: All you gotta say is like, I might have sucked 582 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: that up, and I think people would understand. 583 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 6: Yep. 584 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 7: He needs to learn that treating a question like it's 585 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 7: a question and not an accusation is the way to 586 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 7: succeed in this business. Great, Yeah, Ti Oscar Hernandez, this 587 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 7: is a I'm sorry, Doug, but this is something that 588 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 7: I'm so passionate about, something that I am so anxious 589 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 7: to get off my chest. I'm going to ask for 590 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 7: two things from you, and don't I usually don't do this. 591 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 7: I'm going to ask for the room in order for 592 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 7: me to get this off my chest. And I would 593 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 7: like to bring in coworker Ryan Berschinger. Not only is 594 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 7: Ryan Berschinger a smart, hard working producer at this network, 595 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 7: he also hosts a Dodger podcast. Ryan, Thank you for 596 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 7: joining in the bonus. What is the name of your podcast? 597 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 7: How can we find it? And who else appears? 598 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 6: Oh? 599 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. It is the Sick Podcast, The 600 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 4: Dodger Zone. It is myself, Bo Benzon and Moncy Bolano. 601 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 4: So you can find it on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, wherever 602 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 4: you get your podcast. 603 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 7: So inevitably, if you haven't already, your next podcast is 604 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 7: going to talk about this one play. And I want 605 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 7: to tell you about this play from my perspective, nobody 606 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 7: listening to this needs to agree with me, but you 607 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 7: at least need to validate my point. So last night 608 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 7: it was bases loaded, uh, one out, bases loaded, one out. 609 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 7: Max Mounsey at the plate and this happened. 610 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: One oher. He is a fly ball to center. 611 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 6: It's hit pretty well. 612 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 10: Freelix back Freelix hit the track, Freelix settling up at 613 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 10: the wall, he jumps up, Hendy caught it. 614 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: Oh he bottled it, but. 615 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 6: He ended up catching it. 616 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: Tagging a thirtis Fernandez. 617 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: Here's the throw home and he is going to be 618 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: out at the plate. So now the Brewers are going 619 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: to have a another out at third is contrast is. 620 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 10: Gonna run to the bag and dubble them off, and 621 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 10: the Brewers are going to get out. 622 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 6: Of this setting. 623 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 7: Okay, So that was one thing, and then there's what 624 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 7: happened afterwards. So so sports Twitter their take was Wow, 625 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 7: what a wild play, crazy play. Most of the blue 626 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 7: check mark the influencers never seen him play like that. 627 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 7: That's wild. And I will I'll tell I tell young 628 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 7: broadcasters this. Saying something's wild is not a take. That's 629 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 7: not that's not interesting. You have to explain why it's wild. 630 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 7: And let me tell you what made this play wild. 631 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 7: And if one person did their job, it wouldn't have 632 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 7: been wild or crazy. It was due to the demassary 633 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 7: of one player, and that's ti Oscar Hernandez rewinded a 634 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 7: little bit. Ti Oscar is the one on third base 635 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 7: bases loaded. Okay, flybou to center field. The rule the 636 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 7: rule book states, and this is what we are trained 637 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 7: from Little League. The rule book states that you need 638 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 7: to tag and then you are free to release. When 639 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 7: the ball just touches the outfielder's glove. All it's got 640 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 7: to do is touch. It doesn't matter if it's bobbled, 641 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 7: if it's dropped, if it goes off the wall like 642 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 7: it did last night. All it has to do is 643 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 7: initially touch the glove, and ti Oscar Hernandez can run 644 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 7: home and score. What did to do? Well, He tagged, 645 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 7: he saw it go off the glove, and then he hesitated, 646 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 7: and then the ball was caught again, and he went 647 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 7: back to the bag and he had to run, and 648 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 7: he was the fucking victim of an eight six' two put. 649 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 7: Out the reason why you've never seen that in the 650 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 7: history of, baseball a force play that is an eight six' 651 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 7: to two is Because Ti oscar hernandez is a. Fucking 652 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 7: idiot dodger Fans and I'm Sure ryan bershing around, his 653 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 7: podcast we all have complicated re Relationships With. Gioscar hernandez 654 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 7: he is one of our most. Clutch hitters we can't 655 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 7: not have him in, the lineup but he doesn't belong on. 656 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 7: A field he does not have the defensive skill set 657 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 7: to play outfield in. The majors and if we didn't 658 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 7: have a once in a, generation hitter that has to 659 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 7: be our FULL. Time Dh ti oscar is A Natural 660 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 7: Dh tioscar hernandez always also makes awful base. Running decisions 661 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 7: i'm guessing he has A, low iq especially at times 662 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 7: when it matters. Like this you cannot put any crazy 663 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 7: on that play last Night If Ti oscar hernandez knows 664 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 7: the rule and partakes in, The Rule dave roberts much 665 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 7: to my much to. My chagrin by, The, way doug 666 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 7: and this is a part OF what i hated about 667 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 7: this is that Your Guy, Brian Anderson jeff Francour And 668 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 7: ron darling did not focus on this at all. Last 669 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 7: night they basically were in the That was, crazy club 670 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 7: which isn't. A take, they never they never even they 671 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 7: have an entire you do, Live. Broadcast doug you have 672 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 7: an entire truck of producers whose job it is to 673 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 7: produce segments that are interesting to, the viewers that explain 674 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 7: to viewers. What happened all viewers last night were scratching. 675 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 7: Their head how does? That happen why was that? So 676 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 7: wild WHY doesn't tbs spend time a couple's innings later 677 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 7: doing a deep dive? On this and it all goes 678 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 7: back To Fucking Ti. Oscar HERNANDEZ and i will say 679 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 7: this that it's not completely unforgivable THAT the tbs guys didn't. 680 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,439 Speaker 7: DO it i will. Say This dave roberts was asked 681 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 7: about it afterwards and he, SAID this i just. 682 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 6: Wonder what you saw on that kind of weird. 683 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 7: Double play did you figure it out as it was, 684 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 7: going on or it happened so fast you didn't even 685 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 7: realize what. 686 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 12: Was happening it, HAPPENED fast i didn't know he didn't. 687 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 12: Catch it to be, quite honest we go over. That 688 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 12: rule tail knows. THE rule i think. Right there he 689 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 12: just had a little bit of a, brain fart appreciating 690 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 12: that when it does hit the glove it's going to 691 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 12: you can. Tag there but then he tagged did? It correctly, 692 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 12: then saw, you know he didn't catch it and went 693 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 12: back and that was. 694 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 7: The mistake so when, IT happened i went On my 695 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 7: dodgers group TEXT and, i said if too tags, and 696 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 7: runs we don't have this, fucking wild. SHITTY play I 697 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 7: think i went on the group text with the show 698 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 7: group text and said the same thing in THE moment 699 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 7: i was saying that on the. Group text why does 700 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 7: me on my COUCH and i didn't play high school 701 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 7: past varsity in baseball in? High school WHY did i point? 702 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 7: That out and there's three people on the broadcast and 703 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 7: all the producers in the truck whose sole job it 704 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 7: is to explain to the viewers what happened in, this 705 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 7: situation and they. Missed it they never went back. To 706 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 7: it at the end of, the game As the dodgers bullpen, 707 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 7: is imploding the, Specific, said oh it's a good Thing 708 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 7: that mooki took that ball four with bases loaded and 709 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 7: gave him an. Insurance run how? About this and it's 710 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 7: also a fucking great thing That Ti oscar hernandez didn't 711 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 7: tag up the right way And the dodgers would have 712 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 7: had an extra run and this bullpen wouldn't be sweating 713 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 7: this out the way. It, is Again Ti oscar hernandez. 714 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 7: Is annoying he is a, dumb shit and at the 715 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 7: SAME time i love him because he hits the shit on, 716 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 7: the ball especially in, The Postseason, ryan BERSCHINGER did i get? 717 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 4: Anything, Wrong, NO no i think that's a very very 718 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 4: strong assessment Because Ultimately max muntsey hit a ball as 719 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 4: far as you possibly Can In miller park without it 720 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: going over, the fence And Somehow tioscar hernandez did not score. 721 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 4: On it that ultimately is. IS insane i do want 722 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 4: to to credit then this, entire situation like weird things 723 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 4: like this have happened With the dodgers in, the past 724 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 4: and typically they lose those sort of. Postseason games this 725 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 4: just shows just how good this team is because what 726 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 4: happened then Is, the brewers, in essence had the momentum, 727 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 4: going right the crowd was, going insane every everything, was 728 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 4: wild And Then blake snell comes OUT and i believe 729 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 4: he got out of the inning on. Eight pitches Like 730 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 4: He blake snell was so incredible last night that he 731 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 4: was completely unfazed by the chaotic nature of. That moment 732 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 4: even though every other person watching, the game every other 733 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: person in the ballpark was so thrown off and so 734 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 4: shaken up by how wild, It Was blake snell, remained 735 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 4: calm took, the mound and continued His dominance that was 736 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 4: really incredible. To watch, but yes to your Point On, 737 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 4: ANTEO jason i think it's it's completely correct because there's 738 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 4: no reason for him not to score there if it's caught. 739 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 4: Or not the fact that he doubled back for no 740 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 4: reason just completely could have easily ruined the game and the. 741 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,959 Speaker 4: ENTIRE series. 742 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 3: I don't need to add anything. At all who else is? 743 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 3: Annoying you or do we need to just do we 744 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: need to, Just, go Hey. 745 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 10: It's. 746 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 6: TASKER yeah i think we can Name. TI oscar i. 747 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 3: Think so you can yell It out tasker and as. 748 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: Your annoy. 749 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 3: Are we? 750 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: DOING this i do because we can. 751 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 7: Uh no sports with, This. ONE doug i Just Saw 752 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 7: quentin tarantino, say Something and, i'm like that is. So 753 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 7: brilliant that is so BRILLIANT that i want to play 754 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 7: it on the Podcast. 755 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 13: Making, movies well what the fuck is the? 756 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 6: Movie, now okay what the fuck is the? 757 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 13: Movie now what's something that plays in theaters for a 758 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 13: token release for four? Fucking weeks, all right and by 759 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 13: the second week you can watch it. ON television i 760 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 13: didn't get into all this for. DIMINISHING returns i mean 761 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 13: it was bad enough in twenty nineteen and that was 762 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 13: the last fucking year, of movies, All right and that 763 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 13: was and that was a shiit deal as FAR as i, 764 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 13: was concerned the fact that it's gotten drastically worse and 765 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,959 Speaker 13: that it's just it's a it's a show pony exercise 766 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 13: now the, theatrical. 767 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 3: Release, so true. So TRUE although i will Tell you 768 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 3: i've been to like three movies in the last couple 769 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 3: of WEEKS and i still love, the movies even if 770 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 3: it's EMPTY when i. Go in how can we play it? 771 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 3: For you why do you play it? For you because. 772 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 3: We can that's it for. The End The. Modus podcast 773 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 3: check on the radio show every day three To five 774 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 3: eastern Twelve, Two Pacific Fox. Sports radio. iHeartRadio App I'm 775 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 3: doug godli