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Speaker 1: Times the Gunner.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to hang out.

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Speaker 1: All.

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Speaker 2: We're starting off June with a mail bag. We're back

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys for leaving all the questions. We got

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Speaker 2: nine big ones ready to go. Just give us a

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Speaker 2: quick synopsis on your Memorial Day weekend. I hope everybody

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Speaker 2: else had a great Memorial Day weekend. Yeah, it looked

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Speaker 2: like you got some nice sun.

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Speaker 3: You looked like you were taking it in, took the

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Speaker 3: day off from the picksport a nasty coffee.

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Speaker 2: I got a kick out of that. I got no

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Speaker 2: idea abou Vanilla. I had no idea. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's potent, it's potent.

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Speaker 3: But I was traveling all day Monday coming back, so

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Speaker 3: the literal Memorial Day didn't enjoy that much driving back

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Speaker 3: from Pensacolax my flight got delayed.

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Speaker 2: But the weekend was awesome.

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Speaker 3: You know, got to go see my good friend Griffin

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Speaker 3: Conine Homer twice over in Pensacola for the Marlins double.

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Speaker 3: A affiliate had some awesome interviews that are out on

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Speaker 3: the Call up now with South Freelick and Joey Weimer

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Speaker 3: to top one hundred guys, both the top prospects for

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Speaker 2: Both were so cool, it was it was a ton

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Speaker 3: I know, we were teasing that earlier, So that is

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Speaker 3: out now to check out Freelick and Weimer, and I'll

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Speaker 3: right ups through double A, which was really cool. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had a blast, and I hope everybody listening had

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Speaker 2: And you guys did a livestriam on the Look which

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Speaker 2: was awesome. And you got to hear them talk about

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Speaker 2: it was awesome. And we're going to talk about Loop

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Speaker 2: again in the middle of this episode some of their

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Speaker 2: best polls because the Loop app is just so much

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Speaker 2: fun in the fact that we could do live streams

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Speaker 2: on it. Two just open jumped as Chisholm was in

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Speaker 2: the live to see his friends with the Miami Marlins,

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Speaker 2: as well as joining the Loop aap because he's a

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Speaker 2: big fan of baseball cards, because who isn't these days, And.

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Speaker 3: Of course I think if anyone's gonna collect themselves, it's

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Speaker 3: jazz freaking chiz on right, he's gonna have He's gonna

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Speaker 2: And I can see the possum driving up eBay prices too,

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Speaker 2: oh well if I bought one, I bought one because

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent that's the most jazz thing ever. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was a blast. We'll talk a little bit more

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Speaker 3: about like how that whole live stream went and some

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Speaker 3: But that was super cool with Griffin Cohenin and Zach mccambley,

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Speaker 3: how many questions we're getting in dude, Like now we

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Speaker 3: people fire off, So if we didn't get to your questions, uh,

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Speaker 3: And thank you so much everybody who's been firing all

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Speaker 2: And it's so cool to see all these different questions,

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Speaker 2: you know, flying in. Yeah, we just have to thank

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Speaker 2: But one last thing before we get to the questions,

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Speaker 3: And guess what, I think the baseball card around his

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Speaker 2: They're awesome, That's what I'm saying. It would literally be lighter.

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Speaker 2: So let's do it. So here's the first one. Who

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Speaker 3: Turning himself into a nice little trade chip for the Pirates,

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Speaker 3: and I think a team would be more than happy

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Speaker 3: Worse than than Martine Perez on his own team, That's

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Speaker 2: And he's supposed to be the ACE. So that's why

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Speaker 2: My final answer, though, will probably.

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Speaker 3: Be Brad Keller, just because he's striking out what I

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. That's where I go. The only

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Speaker 2: thing I didn't say, Keller is because I don't actually

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Speaker 2: smiling because you already know it. Who is Oh, No,

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Speaker 2: is Nolan Gorman the answer to the Cardinal's success side

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Speaker 2: dot ingersoll on ig before you get into it. Of

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Speaker 2: course not, yeah, I mean, of course not. It could

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Speaker 2: be any prospect. He's not going to be the answer

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Speaker 2: to the team's success. You know, they need to improve

437
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Speaker 2: in starting pitching overall. Does he give them a little

438
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 2: bit more power? Absolutely does, to give him some positional versatility. Absolutely,

439
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Speaker 2: But a rookie, unless it's a generational type prospect, is

440
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Speaker 2: never going to be And to quote the answer to

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Speaker 2: anyone's success doesn't mean that Nolan Gorman is a bad

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Speaker 2: player at all. Just means there's almost nobody who will

443
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Speaker 2: be instrumental and the answer as a prospect, like even

444
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Speaker 2: a Jan Soto, you know, as a young prospect, he

445
00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 2: helped them win a World Series. But like that's what

446
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,680
Speaker 2: it is. You know, it has to be a guy

447
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 2: like literally or tatit, like those type of players, and

448
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Speaker 2: Nolan Gorman is not that type of player.

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Speaker 3: No, And like the first thought I had was like

450
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Speaker 3: even a Bobby Wit, Like if he brought up Bobby Witt,

451
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 3: he he wouldn't have been helping you. And so now

452
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 3: so you know, I think Gorman's going to help them

453
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Speaker 3: in spots again, Like I've been hard on Gorman because

454
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Speaker 3: I'm hard on him in terms of being ready to

455
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Speaker 3: help a team every day, but they've been putting him

456
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Speaker 3: in spots to succeed, and he's been succeeding out of

457
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Speaker 3: the gate. He's struck out ten times in thirty six

458
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Speaker 3: plaited appearances, but he's hit three eighty seven with an

459
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 3: eleven to fifty ohps. He's going to give you a

460
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 3: ton of power. I think he injects life into the lineup,

461
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Speaker 3: which is huge. But you know, were we that worried

462
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Speaker 3: about the offense, yes, they could have used that jolt

463
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 3: because Tyler O'Neal hasn't been great, Dylan Carlson hasn't been great,

464
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 3: Harrison Batter hasn't been great.

465
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Speaker 2: But I agree with you, Peter.

466
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Speaker 3: Until they get a little bit more reinforcement in the

467
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Speaker 3: in the starting pitching department, I don't think that they

468
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Speaker 3: can really feel great about you know, Nolan Gorman.

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Speaker 2: Making a difference.

470
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Speaker 3: I think a Matthew libertor even though Gorman I think

471
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: long term will be the better player. I think Matthew

472
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Speaker 3: Libertore could make more of a difference for them this

473
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: year given what they need, because I really think the

474
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Speaker 3: lineup will come together. And when you're getting what you're

475
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: gonna know. Aeronaudus slowed down, but Tyler O'Neill's not having

476
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 3: a five to fifty two ops at the.

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Speaker 2: End of shots. It's not to any And Tommy Edmond

478
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Speaker 2: is the fucking truth. Yes, and I said fucking because

479
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 2: he's the fucking truth, dude. He's like he the exit

480
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,359
Speaker 2: velos are great, his defense is unmatched. It seems like

481
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 2: the fact that he can move over second base to

482
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: shortstop so effortlessly and he's got real back to ball skills,

483
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Speaker 2: this is he. Tommy Edmond is turning into one of

484
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Speaker 2: my favorite players to watch on the Cardinals. And one

485
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Speaker 2: yepis Rakes. I will say that the day.

486
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Speaker 3: And that's the thing too, is like Yepus is kind

487
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Speaker 3: of giving you what you're hoping to get from Gorman,

488
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Speaker 3: so you know, it's not like it's this irreplaceable production

489
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Speaker 3: that you're getting from Gorman, whereas you know Edmund's stealing back,

490
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 3: Bass is playing elite defense, you know, bat to ball,

491
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Speaker 3: like you mentioned, sneaky power.

492
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Speaker 2: Doing all the little things.

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Speaker 3: Gorman's it's it's all or nothing, right, He's gonna he's

494
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: gonna hit you the big home runs or he's going

495
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 3: to strike out, and he's not going to give you

496
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Speaker 3: much more value in any other department. Great boost for

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Speaker 3: them right now, but I don't think he's a needle

498
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Speaker 3: mover like some other players could be for them in

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Speaker 3: terms of the pitching department.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, and Paul Goldsman is a legit MVP

501
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: candidate right now. The fact that he's one of the

502
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Speaker 2: greatest hitters against left handed pitching, at least so far

503
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Speaker 2: this season, maybe in the history of baseball. I think

504
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: he's got like a five to fifteen batting average against

505
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: lefties right now. It's unreal. And everybody wants to hear

506
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Speaker 2: us talk about Wan Soda because his name has been,

507
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 2: you know, speculated to be possibly traded. So what we're

508
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Speaker 2: gonna do is we're going to talk about Loop before

509
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Speaker 2: we talk about one Soda, because I know everybody's going

510
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 2: to want to hear about the WAD soda trade proposals.

511
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Speaker 2: But if you click the link in our episode description

512
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: you get a free twenty dollars to download the Loop app,

513
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: which we are doing live streams on, We are doing

514
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: giveaways on, and that's just what we're doing on it.

515
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 2: That doesn't count what you can do on Loop, which

516
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: is you can break cards. Sellers are you know, doing

517
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Speaker 2: box breaks all over the Loop app. You can join

518
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 2: in hear them talk about it. It's not just baseball,

519
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: you can do any sport as well. And if you

520
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: use the link in our episode description, you get a

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Speaker 2: free twenty dollars free pack on us, maybe even two

522
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Speaker 2: depending on what type of packs you're buying. And I

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Speaker 2: know they got some big polls again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's the crazy thing is across

525
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: every sport they're always they're always pulling some crazy stuff.

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Speaker 3: And uh, we actually had some good pulls on the

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Speaker 3: wild Card stream.

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Speaker 2: You pulled what would you pull, Dustin Harris? Dustin Harris

529
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Speaker 2: out of two fifty too bad, around one hundred and

530
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Speaker 2: fifty dollars card, I'll take that.

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Speaker 3: And I got an Oscar Colas out of two ninety nine,

532
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Speaker 3: which is white Sox one ninety. He rakes, he rakes,

533
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Speaker 3: So I'm pumped on that. I just put out an

534
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Speaker 3: article of the most underrated prospects in the set because

535
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Speaker 3: everyone's chasing Khalil Watson, everyone's chasing Eli de Lacruz and

536
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Speaker 3: all those names. And I mentioned Dustin Harris because he

537
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Speaker 3: is super exciting twenty twenty guy last year starting to

538
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Speaker 3: get hot in double A. I also mentioned Lenon Sosa

539
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Speaker 3: and that's the number one guy I want to mention,

540
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Speaker 3: and I'm seeing a lot of people pull him. I

541
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Speaker 3: got a lot of dms like I pulled Lennon Sosa,

542
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Speaker 3: What should I do? I was like, hold it, Lenin,

543
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Speaker 3: So this is White Sox prospects. He's playing out of

544
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Speaker 3: his mind. This year, Jack used his twenty dollars credit

545
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Speaker 3: and pulled up just a base card, but pulled a

546
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Speaker 3: Lenon Sosa bass card, which I know he was pumped on.

547
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Speaker 3: But I saw some people pulling autographs on that. And

548
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: then the crazy thing about it is you also have

549
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Speaker 3: people ripping like F one packs on there, which is

550
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Speaker 3: I didn't even know they had f one packs UFC

551
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: and pulling super rare, super valuable cards there. So even

552
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: if you want to dip into something else, you can

553
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: use the twenty dollars credit to go try and pull.

554
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Speaker 3: I know somebody recently pulled what I want to say,

555
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Speaker 3: Leonard Hambleton. What's what's the Hamilton the F one.

556
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Speaker 2: Driver Louis Hamilton or Lewis Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton is that it? Yeah,

557
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Speaker 2: Lowis Hamilton.

558
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Speaker 3: So one was the great Fotis Lewis Hamilton card that's

559
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Speaker 3: worth thousands and thousands of dollars.

560
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Speaker 2: So you could even dabble in F one if you

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Speaker 2: want to.

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Speaker 3: On the Loop app, and we also did a livestream

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Speaker 3: on there and hopefully we'll be doing some more of

564
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: those in the future. Where I was just hanging out

565
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Speaker 3: with with Griffin Conin and Zach mccanbley, two prospects in

566
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Speaker 3: the Marlin system. Jazz Chishelm joined in, uh, but it

567
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Speaker 3: was just a Q and A and that was super

568
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: fun too. So if you want to download the Loop

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Speaker 3: app to just also be able to hang out with

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Speaker 3: us and talk.

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Speaker 2: I know I also hopped.

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Speaker 3: On the wild Card stream and was talking prospects on

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Speaker 3: there too. It's it's a fun kind of interactive almost

574
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Speaker 3: like you talk about Twitch meets the cards. I had

575
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Speaker 3: a lot of people reach out to me and say, hey,

576
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: I just watch other people spend money, and I watch

577
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Speaker 3: other people, you know, rip cards and see what they pull.

578
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Speaker 3: So you can watch us do that, and you can

579
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Speaker 3: also watch us just chop it up with prospects on there.

580
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Speaker 3: So you might as well download the download the app,

581
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Speaker 3: hit your twenty dollars credit, and you also will be

582
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: able to hang out with us too if you use

583
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Speaker 3: that link in the description.

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Speaker 2: So use the link in the description or use the

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Speaker 2: code just Baseball. Make sure you're clicking it from the

586
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Speaker 2: episode description. Let us know that, let them know that

587
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: we sent you so ars time. It's the time to

588
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: speculate rumor that will not happen because one Soda will

589
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Speaker 2: not be traded. But it is fun to just answer

590
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Speaker 2: the question because everybody wants to know, and it's probably

591
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: the most ass topic right now in baseball. When is

592
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: one Soda coming to my team? And I don't want

593
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: to give up anybody that I really like, but I

594
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: do really want him. So let's talk about what it

595
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: could take if the Nationals trade won Sodo. What hall

596
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: of prospects would they get and what teams have the

597
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 2: capability of pulling it off, asked by Toby Fox twenty

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Speaker 2: four on Instagram, but it was also asked by about

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Speaker 2: four other people, but that was the first one that

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Speaker 2: I that I grabbed. Really, Yeah, everyone wants to know

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00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: about one Sodo. I mean it's clear his name gets

602
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: brought up and it's like, when is he coming to

603
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 2: my team? So Blue Jays fans, I'd like to say

604
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: that he could probably go to your team because that's

605
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 2: the number one team in my mentions that are like,

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Speaker 2: he's coming to the Blue Jays. He's coming to the

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays. But here's what you're going to have to

608
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Speaker 2: give up. Blue Jays fans. You're gonna have to give

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00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: up Alack Minoa. You're gonna have to give up Gabrael Moreno,

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00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to give up a Relvis Martinez, and

611
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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have to give up two more guys.

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Speaker 2: Arm What do you think about that? Do you think

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Speaker 2: the Blue Jays could do it realistically if they want

614
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: to give up their entire team?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean realistic. Gabriel Moreno is the top ten

616
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 3: prospects in baseball. You could do that, or o Verus Martinez,

617
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: the top fifty prospects in baseball. It's a good start,

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00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: You're still not even close, like you said, So you

619
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Speaker 3: start with those two guys, you're, like you said, you're

620
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Speaker 3: probably gonna have to trade out Manoa as well.

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Speaker 2: Uh And at that point, do you still want to

622
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Speaker 2: do it? I mean probably, and then you have to

623
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: give up more.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. It doesn't end there. The Grossian's in there.

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00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 3: I think at that point, maybe like Manoa is one

626
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: of the more valuable young pitchers in the game. So

627
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: you got Manoa moreno Martinez Grossians and maybe you even

628
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 3: have to add like a Ricky Titaman, who's an up

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Speaker 3: and coming guy. I really like, I think you do

630
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Speaker 3: whatever you need to do to get ajuant Sodo, but

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Speaker 3: you have to ask yourself at that point, like are

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Speaker 3: we giving up too much in every other area at

633
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: that point, like is it really worth it?

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Speaker 2: Because now who swats into the rotation?

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Speaker 3: And I know it's Juan freaking Soto, but you're like

636
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 3: depleting your team. And if you're still shy, like Juan

637
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: Soda is gonna help you big times ease. He's generational,

638
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: but if you still need to make more moves to

639
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: win a World Series. How are you going to get there?

640
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: Because now you just depleted yourself of every asset you have.

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00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: It's it's tough. I don't really see how a team

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00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: can do it and then still be in a position,

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00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 3: unless it's the Dodgers. You know, the Yankees if they

644
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 3: want to trade Volpi, But I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if they don't even want

646
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Speaker 2: to do that, because that's the funny thing. I think

647
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: the Yankees and the Dodgers are the team that would

648
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 2: do it. I mean, you go to the Mariners. The

649
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Mariners could do it. They want to, I mean they might.

650
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean, what what would a trade from the Mariners

651
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: look like from Oh my gosh, because it'd be it'd

652
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: be George Kirby, be Matt Brash, Like could you get it?

653
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: I don't.

654
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if you couldn't get it done without

655
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 3: your Keelnick's value, now, like that's that I don't I don't.

656
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: Want Would they take those Would they take those pictures

657
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: and get into wel V Marte and Kelnick? Probably not,

658
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: like you'd have to headline with Jay Rod. Yep, you

659
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: might have to trade them typhrames. No, they wouldn't have to,

660
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: but it'd probably be j would probably be Kirby, would

661
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: probably be Brash, would probably be Noel Vie Marte, and

662
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: it would probably be another big league piece like maybe

663
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: kell Nick two. Like that's crazy, like crazy? Is it

664
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: really like you're going all in on one human being?

665
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: I just to me, I don't tend to think that,

666
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: you know, unless unless it's one of those situations where

667
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: the value is not to the degree of SODA's Like

668
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: you'll give me gel Cabrera that package. You know, that

669
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: was still at the time of haul, and it worked

670
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: in the Tiger's favor, but his value wasn't nearly what

671
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: what Jan Sotas is now in terms of control and

672
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: things like that. I just think where it's at, there's

673
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: almost no way that you can win because the market

674
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: value quote unquote for Juan Soto is going to be

675
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: in a place where it's almost impossible to come out

676
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: on top unless Juan Soto is the one piece you're

677
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: missing and you have endless you know, endless prospects, which

678
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: I think the Dodgers fit that mold, and you start

679
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: with Bellinger and then just throw in, you know, every

680
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: one of your top prospects.

681
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: That's the only team that I think it could still

682
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: make sense.

683
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: You go Diego Kartaya, you go Bobby Miller, you go

684
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: Andy Pajes and Miguel Vargas with a Bellinger, maybe you

685
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: could pull that off and the Dodgers would still have

686
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: an okay system, which is disgusting to think about.

687
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: And that's the great because every I feel like people

688
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 2: asking this question. It's not Yankees or daughter fans asking

689
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: for one Soto, it's how can Won Soto come to

690
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: my team? That's not the Yankees of the Dodgers. But

691
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: I kind of do think the Yankees and the Dodgers

692
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: are hypothetical front runners. He's not getting traded just because

693
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: the first Yankees have a need in the outfield currently

694
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: with Aaron Hicks not being real and Joey Gallo being

695
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: even worse. And then the Dodgers could possibly use him

696
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: as well if they're going to get rid of Cody Bellinger,

697
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: and then they have all the prospects. I mean, the

698
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: Yankees could really I mean they could give Volpi Peraza,

699
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: Pereira Oswalden, They could really make a package and maybe

700
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: centered around Glaber or something, and then the Dodgers the

701
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: same thing package centered around Bellinger and then give them

702
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: for your top prospects that realistically could get it done.

703
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: But then again, it won't happen. I really don't think

704
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: he's I don't think he's getting traded unless something crazy happens.

705
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 3: And here's the last thing I'll say on it is,

706
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: you know, optically, you making this trade as a GM

707
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: is almost like lighting the match to the gasoline trail

708
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: that could eventually lead to your firing, because if you

709
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 3: make this trade and you don't win a World Series

710
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: within two years, you can't. You just mortgage the whole future,

711
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: like everything, every asset you have for Juan Soto, And

712
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: if you're not positive that the rest of your team

713
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: is built to win, they're firing your ass like And

714
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 3: is any GM willing to take that risk? Maybe Aj Prewer,

715
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: and he doesn't have an ultimate of a given shit.

716
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: Dave Dobrowski, he can't do it either. I think I

717
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: think that was the best point of the pod so far.

718
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: I mean, think about just mentally, as the GM.

719
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: If it doesn't go amazingly perfect one hundred percent World Series,

720
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: you're fired.

721
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: And that trad out of your control. There's so much

722
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: out of your control. Juan Soto doesn't just make you

723
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 3: win a World Series. He hits four times a game,

724
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: and he plays, you know, oka defense, not even so

725
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 3: in a corner. So to me, it's like, I'm not

726
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 3: making that deal unless it's a Mookie Bets situation or

727
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: you can, you know, pull off of Miguel Cabrets. I

728
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: have a package, but for what the package would be

729
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: right now, it's setting. You're putting yourself in a position

730
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: to get fired, and I don't think any GM is

731
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 3: wanted to take that risk.

732
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: And let's keep our trade hats on for the next question.

733
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: A player that is more likely to be dealt is

734
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: not totally sold on him getting dealt yet, because you know,

735
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: we never know what's going to happen with the Red

736
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: Sox Aside from Saint Louis, what are some realistic trade

737
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: destinations for Xander Bogarts if the Red Sox decide to

738
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: trade him. I funny enough, I don't think it's going

739
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: to be Saint Louis because if Saint Louis does not

740
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: want to get rid of Gorman Liberatore or Jordan Walker,

741
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: I don't see how that get Xander Bogart's and that's

742
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: all that we've heard that they are locked on those

743
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: three eyes.

744
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: So I just don't think that they're going to do that. Yeah,

745
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I don't really see how they do it,

746
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't even know if they need

747
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: to necessarily do it, because I like what they have

748
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: going on there and I think Edmund could ultimately be

749
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: the shortstop. I think they really do believe in Gorman

750
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: long term. So you know, why put all the money

751
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: at shortstop, because if you trade for for Bogarts, you're

752
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 3: presumably extending him. If your training for him as a rental,

753
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: then maybe it makes sense. But I would rather see

754
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: them put that money towards starting pitching. And I think

755
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 3: that the Cardinals feel the same way. And Jordan Walker

756
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 3: could be up there before you know it too, and

757
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: you know, at that point, where's he going to play,

758
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: because it's not going to be the hot corner where

759
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: one of the best defensive third basement of all time is.

760
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: So you know, they have a little bit of a

761
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: crowded in field situation. It makes sense in theory, but

762
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: I'm with you, Peter, I don't necessarily think that they

763
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: are the best fit. I wonder, and Dancy Swanson is

764
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: starting to play really well. I wonder if the Braves

765
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: would mess around and make that splash if Swanson struggles,

766
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: or if Swanson starts playing so well that you know,

767
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: he starts to command a bag potentially that they'd say, hey,

768
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: in getting in that price range, I'd rather maybe just

769
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: get more.

770
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: Bang from my buck with Xander Bogarts.

771
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: I look at the Phillies maybe, but they would really

772
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: be stretched thin to make that package work. And then

773
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: you know, I'm obviously gonna throw the Marlins into that

774
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 3: hat here just because look, I'm not convinced that they

775
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: would extend him, because I'm not convinced ever that they're

776
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: ever going to spend money.

777
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: But the Marlins are desperate.

778
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: The Marlins have prospects, and they don't really have a shortstop.

779
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: That looks like he's going to be taken over anytime soon.

780
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: Jas Chisholm seems to be settled in a second Miguel

781
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: Rojas is aging that could make sense. I mean, it's

782
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: close to home for Xander, who grew up in Curisow.

783
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, That's the only other team that

784
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: I see is like desperate for a shortstop.

785
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: A lot of teams are pretty good one Reguard right

786
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: like you're forgetting about I have one. You're forgetting about.

787
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: This team if they got Xandard Bogarts would take them

788
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: over the top, at least offensively. The Los Angeles Angels

789
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: edge Velaskaz is currently their shortstop right now, and as

790
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 2: he's a phenomenal defender, but I think when it push

791
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 2: comes to shove, Andrew Velaskaz will not be the starting

792
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: shorts up for a playoff caliber team. No disrespect at

793
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 2: all to Angrew Velaskz still solid player, works better as

794
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: a guy who you can place around in the infield

795
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 2: and really get the most out of his defense. Because

796
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: what also Xander Bogarts does for the for the Angels

797
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: is give them an incredible like separator between Otani and

798
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: Trout as well in the lineup. Plus, you know, with

799
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: Rendon continuing to deal with injuries, could Zander possibly move

800
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: over to third and you allow Rendon to have more

801
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: of a DH roll, just let him get his legs

802
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: out out up from under him so he just doesn't

803
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: have to deal with playing the field. I could see

804
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: that at being the move, and then you could use

805
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: the DH also to give to Zander, because Sander's not

806
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: that great of a defender, but maybe the move over

807
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: to third couldn't make sense if you really love Andrew Velasquez.

808
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: I I think Xander Bogart's to the Angels could take

809
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: them from a team that's competing with the Ashos to

810
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: maybe even better than the Ashos.

811
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: And what's interesting too is you know they have the

812
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: challenge of Otani as well at the DH spot. But

813
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: I'm I'm encouraged with what we've seen from Rendon as

814
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: of late, like he's starting to heat up, and if

815
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: that inspires them to say, like, hey, let's get one

816
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: more Baton here, another guy that doesn't swing and miss right, like,

817
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: like that's the thing is Trout is trout. But Otani kays,

818
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: you know there's when when when you have Rendon struggling,

819
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes he's inconsistent, like you're getting a consistent,

820
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: consistent bat No, Rendon doesn't k a lot, but he's

821
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: hot and cold as of the last couple of years. Xander,

822
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: you know what you're getting and and that's pretty exciting.

823
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: The other thing with the Angels is.

824
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 2: Their biggest issue is middle infield depth. They're pitching's coming

825
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: together like you would have thought.

826
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: And crazy enough, man, if you listen to the call

827
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: up on Friday, we were talking to Zach Mccampbelly and

828
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: gryffin Conine, you know, who are in Double A South,

829
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, last year, nobody wanted

830
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: to face the Montgomery Biscus because that's the Raised Double A.

831
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: And Griffin was like, that's six straight days of misery,

832
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: you know, because it's just Raise pitching prospects ninety eight

833
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: up with high spin and a hammer. And He's like,

834
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 3: it was six days of misery. It's like, it's not

835
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: as bad this year. You know who's six days of

836
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 3: misery right now? The trash pandas which is Double A

837
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 3: for the Angels because guess what, they've drafted nothing but

838
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: pitches for the last two years. And we're seeing guys

839
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 3: like sill Sets get bumped up. We're seeing kay Busch

840
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: start to shove, We're.

841
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: Seeing all these dudes pitch. I think they're okay with

842
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: making a move. I think they might trade some dudes.

843
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: If not.

844
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: Now now when the Angels come on, they're finally doing it.

845
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: It's so exciting. They deserve it. It's been years of shit,

846
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: and now they're back, and they got the pitching in

847
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: the minor leagues coming up. They make a trade for

848
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: Xander Bogart's we could see Mike Trout in the World Series. Baby,

849
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: we'll see playoffs. Man, coll me a playoffs.

850
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: It's give me like multiple playoff series and I'll be

851
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 3: over the moon. I just want to see like Trout

852
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: in big situations.

853
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: And here's another team who should make the playoffs. But

854
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: they got to make some moves. What should the priority

855
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: be for the Blue Jays at the deadline? Do they

856
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: need a lefty bat? Do they need swing and miss

857
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: out of the pen? I will say, first off, yes,

858
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: bullpen has got to be number one priority. Adding a

859
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: lefty bat would be nice. They did that with Corey

860
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: Dickerson if I'm not mistaken last year, and that basically

861
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: did nothing. You need bullpen help. Jordan Romano is a

862
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: great reliever, but he had it. He has had his

863
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: blow up starts. And Julian Murrayweather, as much as I

864
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: love the talent, I mean, the guy just gets injured

865
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: and you know, gets sent back down. There's just it's

866
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 2: a lot of things that he's dealing with right now.

867
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: And Adam Simber is a good arm, but like they

868
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: need especially in a division where you have the Rays

869
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: and the Yankee and all their bullpen talent. I mean,

870
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays ranked nineteenth and bullpen e rara, and

871
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: they're down there in FIP, They're down there in x

872
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 2: FIP as well. Bullpen has got to be the priority here.

873
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 3: And I like the point in the question almost made,

874
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 3: which is swing and miss.

875
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I like their middle relief arms.

876
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: A lot of former Marlins guys that I've seen, like

877
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: Jimmy garciaap fine middle reliever, Revor Richard's fine swing man.

878
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: You know, he's good. These are good guys to have

879
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: in your stable.

880
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: But these aren't guys that you're putting in with a

881
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: runner on third and one out and saying that Adam

882
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: Simber strike this guy out. You know, like that's a

883
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: guy you're putting in the sixth to go one, two, three,

884
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: get some ground balls and get out of it.

885
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: Or you know, Jordan Romano is really the only guy

886
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 2: that is.

887
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: Averaging any impressive strikeout rate at this point, and I

888
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 3: think they've got to go get that swing in this guy,

889
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: no doubt about it. I was going to say My

890
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: answer to this question was just yes, because I think

891
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 3: we both ryin old Tapias stinks, certifiably stinks. I hate

892
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: to say, Calvin bgo is, it's just not going to

893
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: happen in Toronto. They don't have a lefty bat, so

894
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: that definitely matters. But I think you can get away

895
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: with not having a lefty bat, you know, if you

896
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: have guys that are pretty bounce of the lineup.

897
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 2: In this lineup is so good.

898
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, like it is taoscar Hernandez gonna hit one

899
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: seventy the whole year. No, So like I think they'll

900
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: be fine Offensively, I think you got to prioritize the

901
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: bullpen and go get a good bullpen on And ironically,

902
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: I think they need a left arm out of the

903
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: pen too.

904
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: So exactly they need a lefty thrower and a lefty hitter.

905
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: I would prioritize bullpen, but I'd say it's pretty close.

906
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: I think they need both pretty badly. Are you still

907
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: fully in the belief that the Blue Jays are like

908
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: a playoff team that you're you know, you're you're buying

909
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: in because with how good the Yankees and the Rays

910
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: are and then with how you know we assume that

911
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: the White Sex are going to come back, and then

912
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: how good the Angels could be, there just might not

913
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: be enough room in the regular season for them to

914
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: make it.

915
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: I was going to say in a vacuum, they're a

916
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: playoff team exactly, No, no debate there.

917
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: But as you said, their division is tough, and if you.

918
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: Just kind of go by the playoff spots, there's only

919
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: so many spots. If Vladimir Guerrero is not hitting the

920
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: way he hit last year, it's gonna be hard for them.

921
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: And it's pretty surprising.

922
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: And Lord of Scourrielle is struggling, Matt Chapman struggling, Boba

923
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: Schett is refusing to walk. They're gonna need to call

924
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: up Gabriel Moreno, I think sometime soon, and they need

925
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: to inject some life into this team. I think that

926
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 3: it's getting to the point now where I could easily see.

927
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: Them missing the playoffs, which is very surprising to say, because.

928
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 3: Even through this point their pitching has been as good

929
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: as you could really help. Aside from Jose Barrios, Kakuchi's

930
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 3: been solid, Gosman's been phenomenal. Minoa has been a joke

931
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: in terms of being just so damn good. It's like

932
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: one of the best pitchers in baseball right now. Yeah,

933
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: Like their starting pitching has been great outside of Barrios,

934
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: what more could you ask for? The offense I think

935
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: will be better, but it might be too little, too late.

936
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: Also, this was a tike that I was perpetuating throughout TikTok,

937
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: and I thought you agreed with at the time. I

938
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: remember we spoke about it, and that's what kind of

939
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: gave me the confidence to really be like, yeah, I

940
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: truly believe this, because when you had my back, I

941
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, like this is going to happen. That

942
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: Alec Manoa is the best pitcher on the Blue Jays. Yeah,

943
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: And I was saying this at the beginning of the

944
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: year that he is, that Brios is nice, you know,

945
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 2: and Gosman's going to be great. He's not going to be,

946
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: you know, San Francisco Gosman, but he has been San

947
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: Francisco Gosman. But this and I thought Brios was the

948
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 2: easy three to Manoa's one. Right now, we've seen manoah

949
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: and Gosman be like one A and one B. But

950
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: then Brios has been dropping off. I think it's just

951
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: how confident we were in Alec Manoa and how the

952
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: confidence on Brios was draining one hundred percent.

953
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm I'm I'm always He's twenty four, he's so good.

954
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: So you wanted a crazy, crazy stat here, one hundred

955
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: twelve innings one hundred and twelve innings between Gosman and

956
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: Manoa this year for team walks combined between the two

957
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: of them.

958
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: They're disgusting. It's just the.

959
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: Financial that's what could get Like if I think the

960
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: big X factor, if they're not gonna, you know, hit

961
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 3: the way we think they can, Barrios better step it

962
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 3: up better. They're gonna have to pitch their way. They're

963
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: gonna have to pitch their way. There. You know that

964
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: two out of five days you are going to have

965
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 3: the advantage almost every single time with Gosman and Manoa.

966
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: Kakuchi's never gonna screw you. I don't think like I

967
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: think he looks pretty darn good.

968
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 2: He does.

969
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: Barrios and Ryu like, can you just even just tread

970
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: water because the offense is not picking up its weight

971
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: right now and the pitching needs to do what it

972
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: needs to.

973
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: That's the problem. If the offense isn't humming, and then

974
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: it's a two to two ball game when Kevin Gosman

975
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: just gave you seven and then the bullpen blows it.

976
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: You're blowing it like there's those are the wins you need.

977
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: They're not excelling anywhere right now, and that's that's the problem,

978
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. But you know what, I think, at

979
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: the same time, would you be surprised if they caught

980
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: fire and what nuts?

981
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: No?

982
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 3: But I I am not definitely feeling the least optimistic

983
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: I've felt about them thus far.

984
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm feeling the same way. So we have

985
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: arm Laton on prospect Guru, and so what we got

986
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: to do is do the prospect report. It's a little

987
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 2: bit of a lighter prospect report. But so please leave

988
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: your because we kind of talked about Nolan, but he's

989
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: not a prospect anymore. So make sure to leave your

990
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: prospect questions on the mail bag episode again on Twitter

991
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: at just bb Media or on our Instagram at Just

992
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: Baseball Show. So we got a couple guys here, what

993
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on Francisco Alvarez, the catcher for the

994
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: New York Mets, who is a definitive top five prospect

995
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 2: in all of baseball. Now that the guys like Adley

996
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 2: Rutschman and Bobby but Junior and Hulurodriguez of them have

997
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: graduated from Ciscuavres is right in the thick of it,

998
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: and Colt Keith, who, I'll be completely honest with the

999
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 2: arm I don't know who that is, so I decided

1000
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: to add him. But a lot of people are going

1001
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: to know who Francisco Overres is. Let's talk about him

1002
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 2: and then talk about Cold Keith.

1003
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: So one of my favorite things that you've ever said

1004
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: was when we went to the Futures game and you said,

1005
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 3: Francisco Alvarez looks like he has pads under his.

1006
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: Jersey, because he legitimately does. Where he catchers gear under

1007
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: his uniform, it's legitimately. He looks like a like a linebacker.

1008
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: And the craziest part is he moves so well, and

1009
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: you know, everyone knows who Francisco Avares is, so like

1010
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 3: the angle I'm going to really take here is that

1011
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 3: he is playing against guys that are way more advanced,

1012
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: way older, and he is still holding his own. Every

1013
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: time I think he's going to start swamping, he breaks

1014
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: out of it. Every time he has a bad game,

1015
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 3: he bounces back with a good one, and that's so

1016
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: encouraging for a twenty year old.

1017
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: In double A.

1018
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: He's only striking out twenty five percent of the time,

1019
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 3: which is to me extremely low given that he's hitting

1020
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: for the power that he's hitting for. He walks, the

1021
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: defense keeps getting better. Not only is he a definitive

1022
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: top five prospect, Peter, he's got a serious case to

1023
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: be our number one prospect in the mid season update,

1024
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 3: depending on who officially graduates.

1025
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm all in the sound the sound of bat on

1026
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 2: ball at nineteen twenty of all that laser being he hit.

1027
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: I mean like he's dude, I was visibly shook. Look

1028
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: over to you in the stand. I'm like, like eyes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

1029
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: whoa whoa. Now, I mean, guys, you know, you know

1030
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: we saw Shane boj Cavali, we saw a ton of

1031
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: these guys, but Francisco Avarez was the most impressive player

1032
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: from that Futures game. I'll stand on that. I think

1033
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: he was.

1034
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 3: I agree, and I think you know he's backing that

1035
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 3: up again to do what you're doing. If you're Francisco Aurez.

1036
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: It's twenty years old to walk, you know, keep the

1037
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: k's in check. Homer, impressive defense. You know, he's also

1038
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: mixing in the doubles. This guy he could be up

1039
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: by next year, which is which early next year, which

1040
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 3: is crazy. And it's been so fun to just watch

1041
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: this guy play. And then a guy that kind of

1042
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere, like you mentioned. I mean, not

1043
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: a lot of people know who col Keith is. And

1044
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 3: I literally have my notes on him up here right

1045
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 3: now because I wrote up the Tiger System last year

1046
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: and cold Keith didn't have a great year last year.

1047
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: He was really good in low A, then hit the

1048
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: wall in high end as a high school guy. But

1049
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 3: he has really put it together and still only twenty

1050
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: years old. Now getting his second look at HIA has

1051
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 3: been insane. He's hitting two ninety eight, three sixty four,

1052
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: five twelve with six homers. And with Keith, he was

1053
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: always a bat to ball guy, and this is the profile.

1054
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: Always love if you're a great bat to ball guy

1055
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: and then you develop into power, and now you know

1056
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 3: that bat to ball is those doubles are.

1057
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: Turning into homers.

1058
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: I'm all in and right now he's striking out less

1059
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: than twenty percent of the time, so the bat to

1060
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: ball hasn't taken a hit and he's hitting way more homers.

1061
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: He had two home runs in sixty two games last year.

1062
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: He already has six home runs in forty one games

1063
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 3: this year. So he's added physicality and he's striking out less.

1064
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: Like what else do you need to see from a

1065
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: guy to be excited about him? So, Tigers fans, you

1066
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: should be very excited about cold Keith. Overslought guy in

1067
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty draft in the fifth round as a high

1068
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: school dude, could end up being a great steal in

1069
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: that draft and overall pretty good draft for the Tigers

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Speaker 3: that year.

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Speaker 2: And we end it with a great question, and it

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00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: really is a great question here. I can only be

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Speaker 2: the fan of one team for the next fifteen years.

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00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: Which team has the highest upside? And we're only giving

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Speaker 2: four teams to choose from. Which is the Rangers, the Reds,

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Speaker 2: the Pirates or the Royals? Asked by Chris Underscore pr

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Speaker 2: underscore thirteen on Twitter, This is a tough one. I

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00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: want to throw it to you first because you have

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Speaker 2: a better gauge on their systems, but off the cut.

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Speaker 2: I had an answer, but I want to see if

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00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: it makes sense with yours.

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00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that we we don't know what the

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00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: other is going to say when we answer these. I

1084
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: am going with with the pirates. I think the Pirates.

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00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 3: Ben Arrington's done an unbelievable job. You look at the

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00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: big league roster. There's some pieces there. You know, you

1087
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: got kee Brian Hayes, who is you know, looking phenomenal

1088
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 3: at third I'd like to see a little bit more power,

1089
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 3: but elite defender and he's hitting the ball. Rowayne Ze

1090
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: Contreras is now up there and throwing. You have guys

1091
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: like Jack Sowinsky emerging. But Brian Reynolds, I know he's struggling,

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00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 3: he's still an all star.

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00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: And then the.

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00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: System is crazy. You look at the system. O'Neil Cruz,

1095
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: though he's not playing the way you would hope, he

1096
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: looks a little uninspired and trip Awa one of the

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00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: most insane raw power guys we've seen. Henry Davis is outrageous,

1098
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: number one overall pick in his past drafts. Leover Piguero

1099
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Speaker 3: has been great. Nick Gonzales I love Andy Rodriguez is greatly.

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Speaker 3: Their system is stupid. And they've got some young talent

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Speaker 3: already up in the big leagues. Sign me up for

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Speaker 3: the Pirates. I'm a little bit nervous about the pitching,

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00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 3: you know, I think they could definitely use a little

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Speaker 3: bit more pitching.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at the rest of these teams.

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Speaker 3: They all have pretty much similar questions and concerns, and

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Speaker 3: the Pirates are the deepest.

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Speaker 2: Sign me up for the frickin Pittsburgh Pirates, and everything

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00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: you said is exactly correct. It's one of the big

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00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: reasons why I love their system. But you know, our

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00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 2: guy Ryan Miller talks about the hosts of the Boys

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Speaker 2: the Just Baseball Show, so stay tuned for that later

1115
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Speaker 2: in the week. But you know, he's a big Pirates

1116
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: guy and he's been, you know, been ben Cherrington's biggest cheerleader.

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00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: And he's right because the Pirates really have revamped the

1118
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: way they evaluate players. They've revamped their the way they

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00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: developed the players as well in house. You know, the

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00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: training regimens. I remember when Dustin was going through his

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00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: draft process when he was in high school. We talked

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00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: about it, and all we heard was how man it

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00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 2: is tough to be in the Pirate system. They work

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00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: you like a dog. They don't have a lot of

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00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: the technology that other teams do. And then Ben Charrington

1126
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: came in and he really revamped this. And I believe

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00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: in the Pirates. You know, even a guy like O'Neil

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00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: cruz is who's their tipity top prospect, even if he

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00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: doesn't work out. They have so much depth in the system.

1130
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: They have so many young pitchers coming up the pipe.

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00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 2: And again they're gonna have another good draft pick again

1132
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: for the next couple of years, because there's still a

1133
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: ways away. But when I look at those four teams

1134
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Speaker 2: and I'll pull them back up again, it was the Reds.

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00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 2: The Rangers are the Royals, Eileen, Pirates. Yeah, I mean

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00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: I look at the Rangers.

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00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: Their system is much improved, but you know, still they

1138
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: they don't have the talent at the big league level. Yes,

1139
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 3: they have the middle infield situation, but Marcus Semion is scary.

1140
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: Have five hundred million tied up in ye tied up

1141
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 3: and the team still stinks. John Gray is looking a

1142
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 3: little scary too, like that. They still have so many

1143
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 3: pieces that they need to fulfill. And to your point

1144
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: about the development, you're seeing guys like cal Mitchell take

1145
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: the leap and now cal Mitchell is looking like a

1146
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 3: potential big league piece.

1147
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: Diego Castillo has been up there, We'll see what he

1148
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: can do.

1149
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 3: Like, they're also turning decent players into potential above average regulars,

1150
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 3: and then they have the superstar prospects if O'Neal doesn't

1151
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: work out, Leo Va Piguero looks great at short Like

1152
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: They've got a lot of irons in the fire and I.

1153
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: Feel safer there.

1154
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: The Royals, they've got a lot of young exercise offense,

1155
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 3: and I think they're probably number two.

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00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: I would go with them. But the pitching man, I mean, like.

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00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: Jack, Jack's watching Jackson Kohar pitch, and he's also watching

1158
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: Chris Boubach pitch. He shouldn't be watching those guys. Jack

1159
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: works in triple A, great job. You know he's gonna

1160
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 3: be the big soon. But I mean, those guys shouldn't

1161
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 3: be in Triple A. Jack should be calling games with

1162
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 3: so right.

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00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: It's just so right. So co are you know I'm

1164
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: losing hope on him?

1165
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 3: Boobach, I'm losing Hubble. Lynch just has never quite put

1166
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: it together, though this is the best.

1167
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,479
Speaker 2: Form we've seen.

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Speaker 3: What does the roles pitching situation look like in the future.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Peter, So I think the Pirates are

1170
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: the most balanced. I have the most faith in them.

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Speaker 3: Then I'd go Royals, Then I'd go Reds, then I'd

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Speaker 3: go Rangers. What's your order?

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00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 2: I just checked the box score of Guardians versus Royals,

1174
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 2: because I do have Guardians money on today and Daniel

1175
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: Lynch four innings pitch, eight hit, six earned runs, three walks,

1176
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: two strikeouts. Caw Quatrell on the other side five innings pitch,

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Speaker 2: five hits to earn runs for shrike ups.

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: That's such a Calquantra lite and no walks from cala

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00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: Quali's good.

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00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: That's what we're talking about there too. But the Guardians

1181
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: are up six to two. That's what I'm my thinking

1182
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: is with the Royals. And maybe this is blasphemy, but

1183
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: what I take the Reds over the Royals? Seriously? Probably not,

1184
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: but I'm thinking about that crazy.

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00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: I don't think it's that that crazy. I like what

1186
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: the Reds have done in term.

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Speaker 2: My worry is is Hunter Green. I just don't know

1188
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: what he is going to be because if he came

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00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: up and he was dominant and like Nicolo Doloking op

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Speaker 2: a dominant. You know, these are rookies. We shouldn't expect

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00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 2: them to be great early, but to be really really

1192
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: bad early, that's a little bit concerning. And then I

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00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 2: look around. I do like some of the moves that

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00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: they made, and I do believe that through the farm

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00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 2: system that the Reds will be better, but the Royals

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00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: have more upside. But I just don't believe in the

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00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: Royals pitching at all. And we're waiting on Bobby with

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Speaker 2: Junior and MJ. Melendez and those are the two guys.

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Speaker 2: But then besides that, there's not a ton to love.

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Speaker 2: That's why maybe I think you could side with Reds.

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Speaker 2: But I think the Rangers aren't fourth.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, yes, Rangers aren't, which is crazy because the team

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Speaker 3: has been five hundred million. Now.

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Speaker 2: I know, well, because they're better right now. That's the

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Speaker 2: best team right now. But if you're talking like what

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Speaker 2: team should I root for for the next fifteen years,

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Speaker 2: and when you have ten years locked up at five

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Speaker 2: hundred million, you got Corey Seger for ten and you

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Speaker 2: got seven for seven. I'm not going to choose that

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Speaker 2: team in this exercise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not trying to tie my hands behind my

1212
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 3: back when I have a freedom thick here. Yeah, give

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Speaker 3: me the Pirates and I think we're on the same

1214
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: page there. Royals could surprise if a couple of the

1215
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: pitchers put it together, you know, they could surprise.

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Speaker 2: But they've given us no reason to believe that they're

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Speaker 2: going to put it together with their pitchers. They just

1218
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 2: have not developed pitching for for shit really, And we'll

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Speaker 2: end it on with shit really from arm with the Royals.

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Speaker 2: So that'll do it for this. So Wednesdays up of

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