WEBVTT - Organizing Playbook Pt.1 | Andrew Gillum SoloPod

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<v Speaker 1>Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with Reason Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>It was up?

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<v Speaker 1>Up? Was up?

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<v Speaker 2>Was up?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, and welcome everybody. This is Andrew Gillum coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you with one of our how do you say

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<v Speaker 1>we call these side pieces? We call these many many

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<v Speaker 1>mini pods, I guess, and we also call them solo pods.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's where you'll get to hear from your hosts

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<v Speaker 1>at Native Lamb Pod on days in which we're not

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<v Speaker 1>in our regular schedule. And I just want to say

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<v Speaker 1>welcome and also thank you for tuning in. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to quickly outline that these are really going to

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<v Speaker 1>be very brief, if you will, by comparison to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty minute long opportunities where you get to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and hear from the various hosts about issues that

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<v Speaker 1>we might consider to be important. And for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to kick these off with a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a reminder and maybe some training support on what

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<v Speaker 1>it means to get back to the basis of organizing y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>The moment that we find ourselves in right now, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is requiring us to really, really really get serious

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<v Speaker 1>about what it means to see our neighbors, hear our neighbors,

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<v Speaker 1>protect our clan, our family, the people who we love

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<v Speaker 1>and support, make sure they remain harmless through this very,

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult and trying time. And some of that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to require that we get back in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>foundational organizing principles that have carried our community from back

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<v Speaker 1>there to where we are right now. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>right now the challenges feel like one. They feel humongous,

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<v Speaker 1>they feel exhausting, they feel tiring. I would even add

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<v Speaker 1>to that heartbreaking, and I add heartbreaking because while I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to spend most of my time in these first

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<v Speaker 1>twenty or so minutes with y'all talking about organizing and

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<v Speaker 1>the organizing series that I'd like to I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>engage you all in Yesterday we learned about the cancelation

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<v Speaker 1>of our dear Sister Joy and Reads show the Readout

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<v Speaker 1>on MSNBC. Now, some of us may have quit MSNBC

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<v Speaker 1>back when they tried the same thing with Tiffany Cross,

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<v Speaker 1>my dear colleague and fellow co host on Native Lampod

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<v Speaker 1>and many of us even if we made the decision

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<v Speaker 1>to step away from the network at that time because

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<v Speaker 1>of the treatment that she received. A lot of us

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<v Speaker 1>stayed around and said, hey, look that's where Joy is,

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<v Speaker 1>and Joy is from my standpoint, she's not just a newswoman,

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<v Speaker 1>She's not just an anchor. She's not there doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody the entertainment value or for sport. Joy read

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<v Speaker 1>the Joy read that I know, and the Joy read

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<v Speaker 1>that we have all come to know and love over

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<v Speaker 1>the years on the various platforms that she's been Joy

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<v Speaker 1>quite simply is the bringer of truth and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter how inconvenient that truth may be. She's going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring it to you anyway. And today's day and age,

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<v Speaker 1>where you have a very thin skinned political leadership apparatus,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would even argue maybe a thinner or equally

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<v Speaker 1>as thin skin in the corporate media, who are prepared

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<v Speaker 1>to wilter and bend to the will of the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>in the party that's in control right now, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to cost us something, and in this case, it's costing

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<v Speaker 1>us one of the best truth tellers that we have

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Joy represents, and my opinion, the best of

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<v Speaker 1>who we are. She is fact based, her opinion is

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<v Speaker 1>always supported by laundry lists of receipts. She is someone who,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of what the popular wins may be, has always

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<v Speaker 1>deepened into what our true lived experiences are and we're

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<v Speaker 1>in our community, and she broadcast broadcasts those experiences to

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Y'all. She is going to be deeply, deeply,

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<v Speaker 1>deeply missed by her viewers on MSNBC. But I got

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you, you know, joy from from from my lips

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<v Speaker 1>to your ears. I hope. Uh, this is a setup

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<v Speaker 1>for really God calling you into greater service, to higher purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>While you have served an incredible purpose up to this point,

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<v Speaker 1>you're being called into higher service. And sometimes in the

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<v Speaker 1>process of moving into higher service, you have to be sifted.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember those that old equipment that our grandparents, my grandmama

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<v Speaker 1>used to use when she was doing her pancakes, a

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<v Speaker 1>corn bread and the flour would go into the sifter

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<v Speaker 1>and it would sift all the way through. But what

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<v Speaker 1>would come out as a finer grain of things and

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<v Speaker 1>it made everything taste just that much better. Well, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a finer grain of you that is through this

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<v Speaker 1>process and on the other side, and so many of

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<v Speaker 1>us just can't wait to see whether that takes you,

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<v Speaker 1>and more importantly, where it takes us collectively. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to what Joy Read's next steps are, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we have to send a very very important signal

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<v Speaker 1>to the corporate folks who are making these decisions, are

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<v Speaker 1>silencing our voices, are supplanting our voices with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>minstrel shows and dictates of how they think we are

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to show up on their platforms. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>send them a signal that this is not a game,

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a toy, This is not a transaction

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<v Speaker 1>that you trade in and trade out. This is our

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<v Speaker 1>lives and we deserve and need voices who are going

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<v Speaker 1>to speak truth and power to the powerful about what we're,

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<v Speaker 1>what our lived experiences are, and what we need and

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<v Speaker 1>what we demand of the system. And Joy has unapologetically

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<v Speaker 1>done that on behalf of all of us standing in

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<v Speaker 1>the gap. We've got to send a signal, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I want to join the bandwagon of folks who today

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<v Speaker 1>are encouraging folks to watch Joy's last sign off show

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<v Speaker 1>tonight on MSNBC during her normal regular seven pm Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>Standard time, and wherever you live you can you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can obviously look up the show times, but be

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<v Speaker 1>with her, stand with her, hold her spiritually during this

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<v Speaker 1>time where she has to make it through this show

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<v Speaker 1>on the network that summarily decided that her voice was

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<v Speaker 1>no longer a value to them. At this moment, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to say that her voice is valuable to us,

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<v Speaker 1>that it means something to us, that we are powering

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<v Speaker 1>her forward. Even if they can't see it, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help to make sure that they feel it. So at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the conclusion of her show tonight and

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<v Speaker 1>Joy will sign off by telling her telling the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us where it is that we can go and

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<v Speaker 1>find her voice beyond this current platform. And after that, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna turn the TV off. We're gonna shut it down.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to log off of whatever platforms in which

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<v Speaker 1>you are watching or hearing MSNBC, and we're gonna send

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<v Speaker 1>them a very important message that our voices matter. And

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<v Speaker 1>guess what. My voice right now is being interrupted by

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<v Speaker 1>my cell phones. And this has always been my theory

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<v Speaker 1>about these lives. I'm telling you, y'all, I am technology

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<v Speaker 1>of tooth and if it happens again, just charge it

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<v Speaker 1>to my head, not to my heart. I'm gonnaigure this

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<v Speaker 1>out by the time we get into the next one,

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<v Speaker 1>but we want to make sure that they hear and feel,

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, feel the effect of when we choose to

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<v Speaker 1>take our time and attention, a very precious and non

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<v Speaker 1>renewable resource, our time and attention, when we choose to

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<v Speaker 1>put that elsewhere. Joy, We're going to follow you wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you go, and tonight we want to make a very

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<v Speaker 1>very strong, important show of support that we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have your back because you have had our backs in

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<v Speaker 1>our fronts and sides and other blind spots when we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know it. The last confession I'll make on

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<v Speaker 1>this one with regard to Joy is that when I

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<v Speaker 1>ran for governor of the state of Florida back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, and it was looking like we might that

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<v Speaker 1>we could potentially pull off a win in that race,

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<v Speaker 1>I reached out to Joy and asked her if she

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<v Speaker 1>could do her show live from Florida, and that I

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<v Speaker 1>would grant her if I were to win that race.

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<v Speaker 1>The first interview after the race was concluded, possibly later

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<v Speaker 1>that that election night or maybe the next morning, and

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<v Speaker 1>Joy did what she had to do, and she showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get to see her that night. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a it was of course, it worked out a different way,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a bit heartbreaking on one end, but

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<v Speaker 1>she did what was necessary within whatever the corporate confines were,

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<v Speaker 1>to try to bring to the American people the experience

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<v Speaker 1>that we had here in Florida. And I'll never forget that.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's been her friend and the gap on so many,

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<v Speaker 1>so many more occasions. Don't believe the hype that they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to sell us about unqualified, whatever stories they want

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<v Speaker 1>to put out, ratings, all this craziness. You see the

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<v Speaker 1>enemy tries to use. They do a little jiu jitsu.

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<v Speaker 1>They take their weakest and most vulnerable place, and they

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<v Speaker 1>then project that vulnerability onto other communities, other people, so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can then insulate themselves from attack. What am

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<v Speaker 1>I talking about, Well, I'm talking very specifically about not

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<v Speaker 1>just Joy's incidents, and which is an example of the

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<v Speaker 1>corporate side, but this picture, it can be drawn a

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<v Speaker 1>lot bigger. It's not just the corporate We want you

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<v Speaker 1>to obviously watch her show this evening, throw our support

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<v Speaker 1>behind her, but following that, we want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we follow Joy and read on every platform in

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<v Speaker 1>what she is listed. So if you in Snapchat, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>blue Sky, whatever the platforms are that you get information

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<v Speaker 1>and share information, please please please go ahead and put

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<v Speaker 1>in the search engine right now Joy and read. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't already do it now follow her and then

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<v Speaker 1>contact MSNBC. Let our voices be heard and let them

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<v Speaker 1>know that we disagree with the step that they've taken

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<v Speaker 1>and that they want our business. They best do better

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<v Speaker 1>to bring us to voices who best represent our community.

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<v Speaker 1>All skin folk and kim folk and all folks who

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<v Speaker 1>may reflect what we look like who are on television

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<v Speaker 1>are not necessarily speaking our truth and telling our stories.

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<v Speaker 1>The number at MSNBC, and we'll hopefully get this in

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<v Speaker 1>show notes is two one two six six four four

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<v Speaker 1>four four four. Let's light up that board and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they know that we're watching. When prompted, press one,

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<v Speaker 1>then press two. Leave a message stating that you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that their actions are unacceptable and that we need brave

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<v Speaker 1>and honest journalists like Joy and Reid to come to

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<v Speaker 1>us on their platforms as well. We want you to

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<v Speaker 1>watch obviously tonight, but we want you to disconnect immediately

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<v Speaker 1>following from the platform. That will bring us her show

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<v Speaker 1>tonight MSNBC at seven pm Eastern Standard time, and look

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<v Speaker 1>for your local networks for your showtimes. And then, last,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly not at least, we want you to spread

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<v Speaker 1>the word. If you post about watching the show tonight

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<v Speaker 1>or anything related to it you're discussed around the decision,

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<v Speaker 1>please use the hashtag. We need joy. We need joy

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<v Speaker 1>in so many forms, joy in our spirit, but also

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<v Speaker 1>joy the person. And we thank you for bringing us

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<v Speaker 1>both of those joy. Thank you for your friendship. We

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<v Speaker 1>will follow you wherever because you are a true and

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<v Speaker 1>an honest voice who has earned our trust. And know

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny Come Lately or Surprise or pop up figure is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have our trust. You have to earn it,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to work for it. You put in the work,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why we want to put in some work

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<v Speaker 1>for you. What I was getting to on second topic,

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<v Speaker 1>just changing the page, and then finally I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about what we hope to do with these on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis when we come to you in these

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<v Speaker 1>solo pods. When I talked about the enemy weaponizing their

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<v Speaker 1>weakness to insulate themselves from attack, I'm talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>DEI stuff right which I have translated to the N

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<v Speaker 1>word is how I experience it when they use it,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like the sessing out of us wherever they

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<v Speaker 1>can find it. Well, this weekend, something else happened in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to the news and the corporate world regarding Joy Reid,

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<v Speaker 1>the general who led the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the which is the collection of all of the

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<v Speaker 1>military chiefs and leaders across the various branches, including the

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<v Speaker 1>National Guard. This is the group that assembles as advisory

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<v Speaker 1>to the President of the United States, Defense Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and the intelligent chiefs of our country.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the official advisory group Joint Chiefs that chairmen

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<v Speaker 1>of the Joint Chiefs serves both and Democratic and Republican administrations.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because their oath and their fealty is to the

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<v Speaker 1>Constitution of the United States and to the people and

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<v Speaker 1>the nation of the United States. Well, the current Joint

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<v Speaker 1>the previous I guess I should say, before he was

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<v Speaker 1>fired Chairman of the Joint chief of Staff was General C. Q. Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>who spent forty years as a pilot in the Air Force,

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<v Speaker 1>met all of the criteria. There were no lessening of criteria,

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<v Speaker 1>no quotas having to be met. It simply required that

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<v Speaker 1>those making this decision looked across the entire board of

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<v Speaker 1>qualified individuals underscore qualified, and choose from amongst them a

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<v Speaker 1>person who would lead the Joint Chiefs. While President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>decided to dismiss CQ. Brown this weekend and removing him

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<v Speaker 1>from his position in addition to a couple of other

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<v Speaker 1>top brass within the United States Armed Services, and replaced

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<v Speaker 1>him not with somebody equally qualified or really not with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who is just qualified for the position of Chairman

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<v Speaker 1>of the Joint Chiefs, which does require special experiences in

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<v Speaker 1>qualifications to be named. He decided to name a gentleman

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<v Speaker 1>named Dan Caine, who I don't know personally, but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>says served this country and we thank him for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But in appointing mister Caine, the President actually had to

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<v Speaker 1>waive the criteria necessary for him to have been automatically

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<v Speaker 1>qualified for the President to make that appointment. The President

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<v Speaker 1>has the ability to waive that criteria if he chooses,

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<v Speaker 1>if it is in the best interests of the nation. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he determined it was in the best interest of the

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<v Speaker 1>name to appoint someone who was not qualified technically for

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<v Speaker 1>the position, so he takes out a qualified individual who

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<v Speaker 1>met all of the standards, no quotas simply qualified ready

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<v Speaker 1>to serve, and replace them with someone who, while they

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<v Speaker 1>have served this nation and we are grateful, was not

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<v Speaker 1>qualified on paper to be named the Chairman of the

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<v Speaker 1>Joint Chiefs of Staff. I think we would all agree

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<v Speaker 1>that Secretary Hexseth, who is now the Secretary of Defense,

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<v Speaker 1>who pales can't even be mentioned in the same sentence

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<v Speaker 1>as his predecessor, quite frankly, but is unqualified for the

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<v Speaker 1>position that he holds. And that, frankly is true across

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<v Speaker 1>the board with almost all of Trump's appointments to the

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<v Speaker 1>National Cabinet. So what do they do. They go on

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<v Speaker 1>a rampage against Dei, which they say didn't earn it,

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<v Speaker 1>and truth all their folks didn't earn it. Yet they're

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<v Speaker 1>in these positions, and they are placing men and women

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<v Speaker 1>and folks of color and other marginalized people who fought

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<v Speaker 1>to be just considered off their merit. They're being pushed out,

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<v Speaker 1>while people with no merit at all are being pushed in.

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<v Speaker 1>I say this, y'all because I think we have to

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<v Speaker 1>begin to forward our truthful narrative around this We shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be pushed back on our back heel in this fight

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<v Speaker 1>around DEI when it simply means take the qualified individual

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<v Speaker 1>and guess what. Look beyond your circle of friends, Look

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<v Speaker 1>to the people who are qualified but may not share

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<v Speaker 1>your same lived experience, are committed to the constitution, but

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<v Speaker 1>may not be loyal to you the individual, because their

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<v Speaker 1>oath is to the constitutional and to the country. We

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<v Speaker 1>have no shame, we ought to have no shame around

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<v Speaker 1>the term diversity, equity, and inclusion. We are not carry

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<v Speaker 1>the load that they want to put on our backs

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<v Speaker 1>of dishonesty. Like we didn't earn where we are. We

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<v Speaker 1>earned it. We worked hard, in fact, in many cases,

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<v Speaker 1>harder than most that surround us to get those positions.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to tolerate that they want to apply

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<v Speaker 1>that across the corporate sector and across now the public sector.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's simply a lot, and we have to reject it. Finally, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say, when we come to you,

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<v Speaker 1>at least when I'm doing many pots, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>try my very very best to ensure that they're bringing

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<v Speaker 1>information and education and hopefully that you'll leave our conversations

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<v Speaker 1>having felt more informed and more equip than when you

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<v Speaker 1>joined us. And so in that spirit and in the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit of where I sort of started describing these many

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<v Speaker 1>pods to you, at least from my perspective, is that

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<v Speaker 1>in the coming weeks, I'm going to take time, with

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<v Speaker 1>the support and help of Lolo, one of our producers,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to pop in here in a moment to

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<v Speaker 1>let me know if there are any questions, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>walk our listening audience through some of the basics and

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<v Speaker 1>fundamentals around organizing. How do we get our communities ratcheted up,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we move them not just through this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but to a place where I think as a community

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<v Speaker 1>we begin to live our truest, fullest sells and have

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<v Speaker 1>the policies and institutions that are around us being built

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<v Speaker 1>to support that growth, that freedom, that independence, that ability

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<v Speaker 1>to live truly free and unencumbered, in order to get

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<v Speaker 1>closer to that beloved community that I think all of

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<v Speaker 1>us want and admire. It doesn't have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>pipe dream, but it does require something of us and

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<v Speaker 1>from us, and quite frankly, it's the same thing that

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<v Speaker 1>democracy requires of us and from us, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>that we be in the movement in action in whatever

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<v Speaker 1>way that suits us and whatever way that deepens into

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<v Speaker 1>our skill set. But you can't maintain societies that see

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<v Speaker 1>us and respect us unless we're prepared to put in

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<v Speaker 1>the work. We shouldn't always have to, but given the

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<v Speaker 1>challenges we face, the foes we face, our ancestors didn't

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<v Speaker 1>let their knee break their necks, and we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to let it happen to us. But it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to require the work. So today, what we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you have in the show notes as my

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<v Speaker 1>time comes to an end, is a list of organizations

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<v Speaker 1>and groups that you can research, determine whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>they fit in your skill set and interest area, and

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<v Speaker 1>then hopefully you make the move to deepen into how

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<v Speaker 1>you can better support the work of those entities and organizations.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the coming weeks, we want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about how you then build that beloved community right

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<v Speaker 1>where you are, either online or in person, hopefully a

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<v Speaker 1>mix of both, but better equip each and every one

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<v Speaker 1>of us with the knowledge, the skills, and the tools

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<v Speaker 1>that are necessary to bend that arc more deeply, and

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<v Speaker 1>more admittedly, and more permanently. In the direction of justice

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<v Speaker 1>for all of us. With that, I want to avite, Lolo,

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<v Speaker 1>if there are any questions, I want our listeners to know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be just talking about organizing by

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<v Speaker 1>what by virtual of what I read. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about organizing from my own lived experience. For

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<v Speaker 1>many years, was an organizer, mostly on college campuses and

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<v Speaker 1>then in greater community. And then my organizing work led

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<v Speaker 1>to organizing elected officials who were our age and younger

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<v Speaker 1>and diverse cohorts so that they can be more effective

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<v Speaker 1>at bringing the benefits back to our community. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we got to organize for all of us. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to be talking to you about what

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<v Speaker 1>I've read. I'm going to be talking with you and

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<v Speaker 1>engaging and exchanging with you about what I know, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully you'll bring some of your experience to the table

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll just have a great exchange of how to

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<v Speaker 1>do this and do it the best and most effective way.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, Lolo, are there any questions, anything I missed,

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<v Speaker 1>anything I need to reiterate, let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, y'all. All right, so we haven't gotten a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of questions, but there was one in particular I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was really cool. And so this person said, how do

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<v Speaker 2>we assert and not only respond We need to assert

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<v Speaker 2>because they're already expecting a response.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let him expect the response, but we got to

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<v Speaker 1>give the response as well. That's number one. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a group right now working on a database that will

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<v Speaker 1>be able to direct us to either black owned or

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<v Speaker 1>black lead black hosted platforms where we can have a

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<v Speaker 1>exchange of information. We can get our source of information

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<v Speaker 1>and facts from people who we know and who we

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<v Speaker 1>trust that we don't always have to rely on the

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<v Speaker 1>corporate media quite frankly to do that for us. And

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<v Speaker 1>so in my thought around how it is we get

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<v Speaker 1>in front of just the reaction, just the response. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I don't take for granted that people

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna automatically respond. I gotta be honest about that, lol.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have thoughts on it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't take for granted that people automatically have a

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<v Speaker 1>knee jerk reaction that when someone does something that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, that they have a choice to make. They

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<v Speaker 1>can continue to support the thing that is doing the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that they don't like, or they can make another decision.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't be well, that's the network I've always gone to.

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<v Speaker 1>D there are other options, so we have a choice

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<v Speaker 1>to make. I don't think any of us should take

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<v Speaker 1>for granted that people are automatically going to do a

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<v Speaker 1>thing and reaction to being offended or heard, or let

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<v Speaker 1>down or quite frankly, pushed to the side. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this resource of other places that you can

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<v Speaker 1>go is because we don't want to leave you empty.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to make sure that our buying power can

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<v Speaker 1>continues to show its strength except we get to show

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<v Speaker 1>its strength and places that see us, know us, hear us,

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<v Speaker 1>respect us, and then respond lolo. I may have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>off on the on the question, but I think I

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<v Speaker 1>understood the question uh uh, and then reframed it to

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<v Speaker 1>basically say, one, don't assume we know what to do

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<v Speaker 1>when we're when we're pushed to the side. And then two,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do the work of finding the platforms that are

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<v Speaker 1>in service to us that we then support so that

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<v Speaker 1>folks are then incentivized to do more of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that are in service to us and not less.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, so we have so I know, on a normal day,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just the first solo pie we would have

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<v Speaker 2>way more time to get through a lot of these questions.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one in particular, because we're on this topic,

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask you, and then I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>close off with something that is just in general. So

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<v Speaker 2>this person asks, why are we still talking about DEI

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<v Speaker 2>if white women and white gays benefit the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first, I don't know that. I don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>empirical data. If we're talking about affirmative action, that may

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<v Speaker 1>be one thing. I don't have any empirical data to

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that back at what level we are benefiting from diversity,

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<v Speaker 1>equity and inclusion, in part because, like there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of approaches to DEI. It can be if you

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<v Speaker 1>were a grosser or retailer. It could be in the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you are including brands that are from communities

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<v Speaker 1>or constituencies that are not your normal, normal vendors, that

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<v Speaker 1>you're uplifting creative voices of black folks that have women

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<v Speaker 1>and so on and so forth. It could be if

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<v Speaker 1>you are in a workplace that there are deliberate steps

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<v Speaker 1>that are taken to showcase the talents of all people

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<v Speaker 1>and not just my homegirl or my homeboy who I

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<v Speaker 1>hang with. I know them. We share a lot in common,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why they're always the ones that are selected

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<v Speaker 1>and tapped to give the presentation before the board or

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<v Speaker 1>before they're coworkers, right, So it takes a number of forms.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, sometimes when we're climbing, we're bringing other

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<v Speaker 1>people who may not look like us or share all

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<v Speaker 1>of our identities along with us because they too have

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<v Speaker 1>been marginalized. I'm never gonna make the fight between marginal

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<v Speaker 1>communities and other marginal communities. That isn't the fight that

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<v Speaker 1>we want. That's the fight they want to give us.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a beef with women, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a beef with LGBTQ, I don't have a beef with

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<v Speaker 1>black folks in general. I'm saying, if all of us

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<v Speaker 1>are being oppressed, then we better figure out where we

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<v Speaker 1>have common cause and start that process of rising. But

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<v Speaker 1>they want us to gobble and fight between the folks

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<v Speaker 1>who they're marginalizing. They want us to fight about whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not this minority group or this minority group is

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<v Speaker 1>getting more time and attention and resource. And my suggestion

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<v Speaker 1>is there's plenty enough to go around, plenty enough, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna fight over the crumbs. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>be at the table and we're gonna fight over the meal, period.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, and that was such a great response

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like so many people say, but white women

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<v Speaker 2>are the main ones who benefited from the I I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, they're oppressed too and are largely hated by the

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<v Speaker 1>power structure. But that's not our fight. That's on our fight.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have more women, morey LGBTQ, more black folk,

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<v Speaker 1>more of the marginalized communities, and there is enough to

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<v Speaker 1>go around. You see. They got us activating in this

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<v Speaker 1>mentality of deficit. We're always operating from a deficit mentality. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to operate from a deficit. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to operate from positions of strength and a power of

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<v Speaker 1>access resource. And what that means is you don't negotiate

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<v Speaker 1>against yourself before you get to the negotiating table. You

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<v Speaker 1>bring all of yourself to that table, and you negotiate

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<v Speaker 1>over the entire pie, not the crumbs.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So to close the South, because I know

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta go, but to close this out this series,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you talked about it, but now we have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more people on Live right now. So the

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<v Speaker 2>series that you are doing over the next few weeks

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<v Speaker 2>about how to get active. Can you just close let

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<v Speaker 2>us know what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, so we're going to spend the next the coming

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of my mini pie helping folks get reconnected to

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<v Speaker 1>what it means to organizing community and whether that is virtual,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that is in person, whether that is building campaigns

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<v Speaker 1>that put pressure on power systems and structures. Right, the

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<v Speaker 1>saying is tried and true, but it is more true

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<v Speaker 1>than anything, and that is power yields nothing without a demand.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we're expecting the system to see us and

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<v Speaker 1>to give to us because we're there, not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to state our demands. I remember going in

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to negotiate from my first salary increase, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I started by saying, you know, I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>gotten an increase in three years, and my boss responded, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you hadn't asked in the past three years, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you see my work, you know my effort, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing all that to say, y'all, yeah, people

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<v Speaker 1>can see that and they'll take it for what is worth,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does not automatically trigger for them that they

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<v Speaker 1>ought to be paying for the services that were rendering.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we've got to get back to the basics

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<v Speaker 1>of organizing, how to do it, What do we start,

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<v Speaker 1>what does the middle of that look like? And then

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<v Speaker 1>what is the north star that we're aiming toward. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to bring in some voices organizational leaders, people

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<v Speaker 1>who have had the experience of doing this, not just

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<v Speaker 1>in a professional capacity, but just as individuals in their

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<v Speaker 1>communities and their neighborhoods on their block, organizing to move

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<v Speaker 1>us towards the more beloved community economically, politically, socially and otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've forgotten a lot about that in the

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<v Speaker 1>privilege that a lot of us have now come up in.

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<v Speaker 1>And while it ain't everybody, it doesn't reflect everybody's privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>Right there folks who are much more privileged than we are.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've also ascended to some levels of privilege. And

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<v Speaker 1>then so doing have I think forgotten some of the fundamentals,

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<v Speaker 1>and we need to deepen back into those fundamentals, get

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<v Speaker 1>back into those basics, understanding civics, understanding the pressure points,

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<v Speaker 1>recognizing that the federal government is one thing, but guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a federation of fifty states, in a number of

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<v Speaker 1>territories and what pressure points can we impact and input

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<v Speaker 1>at our level to get the kind of outcomes that

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<v Speaker 1>we want. We know that pressure breaks pipes. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>it just this past week with members of the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Party who host the town hall meetings that were explosive.

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<v Speaker 1>The people showed up and they're let their voices be

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<v Speaker 1>heard and by so doing, they're going to moderate the

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<v Speaker 1>actions of those elected representatives. I'm willing to bet on it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's just one example. I think we can see

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<v Speaker 1>greater examples and greater successes when we organize. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that they're coming for us. They've already started. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to stop now. What we got to do is

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<v Speaker 1>get shake off the shock and get information with the knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>skills and the tools that we need to fight back,

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<v Speaker 1>but not fight back for fighting sake, but to win.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm committed to do, seeing us win, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of what party is in power. We ought to be

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<v Speaker 1>winning at the end of the day, y'all, I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you taking time, Lolo, thank you for the help on that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you when we see you, and when we do,

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<v Speaker 1>we're coming with our first deep training twenty minutes giving

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<v Speaker 1>you some skills that I think are going to help

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<v Speaker 1>transform our communities and our country as a result of

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