1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: What's up? 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: It was up? 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Up? Was up? 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Was up? 7 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, and welcome everybody. This is Andrew Gillum coming 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: to you with one of our how do you say 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: we call these side pieces? We call these many many 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: mini pods, I guess, and we also call them solo pods. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: And it's where you'll get to hear from your hosts 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: at Native Lamb Pod on days in which we're not 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: in our regular schedule. And I just want to say 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: welcome and also thank you for tuning in. I just 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: want to quickly outline that these are really going to 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: be very brief, if you will, by comparison to the show, 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: maybe twenty minute long opportunities where you get to come 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: in and hear from the various hosts about issues that 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: we might consider to be important. And for me, I 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: really wanted to kick these off with a little bit 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: of a reminder and maybe some training support on what 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: it means to get back to the basis of organizing y'all. 23 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: The moment that we find ourselves in right now, I 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: think is requiring us to really, really really get serious 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: about what it means to see our neighbors, hear our neighbors, 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: protect our clan, our family, the people who we love 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: and support, make sure they remain harmless through this very, 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: very difficult and trying time. And some of that is 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: going to require that we get back in touch with 30 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: foundational organizing principles that have carried our community from back 31 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: there to where we are right now. And I know 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: right now the challenges feel like one. They feel humongous, 33 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: they feel exhausting, they feel tiring. I would even add 34 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: to that heartbreaking, and I add heartbreaking because while I 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: wanted to spend most of my time in these first 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: twenty or so minutes with y'all talking about organizing and 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: the organizing series that I'd like to I'd like to 38 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: engage you all in Yesterday we learned about the cancelation 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: of our dear Sister Joy and Reads show the Readout 40 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: on MSNBC. Now, some of us may have quit MSNBC 41 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: back when they tried the same thing with Tiffany Cross, 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: my dear colleague and fellow co host on Native Lampod 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: and many of us even if we made the decision 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: to step away from the network at that time because 45 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: of the treatment that she received. A lot of us 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: stayed around and said, hey, look that's where Joy is, 47 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: and Joy is from my standpoint, she's not just a newswoman, 48 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: She's not just an anchor. She's not there doing this 49 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: for anybody the entertainment value or for sport. Joy read 50 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: the Joy read that I know, and the Joy read 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: that we have all come to know and love over 52 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: the years on the various platforms that she's been Joy 53 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: quite simply is the bringer of truth and it doesn't 54 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: matter how inconvenient that truth may be. She's going to 55 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: bring it to you anyway. And today's day and age, 56 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: where you have a very thin skinned political leadership apparatus, 57 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: and I would even argue maybe a thinner or equally 58 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: as thin skin in the corporate media, who are prepared 59 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: to wilter and bend to the will of the White House, 60 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: in the party that's in control right now, it's going 61 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: to cost us something, and in this case, it's costing 62 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: us one of the best truth tellers that we have 63 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: out there. Joy represents, and my opinion, the best of 64 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: who we are. She is fact based, her opinion is 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: always supported by laundry lists of receipts. She is someone who, 66 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: regardless of what the popular wins may be, has always 67 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: deepened into what our true lived experiences are and we're 68 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: in our community, and she broadcast broadcasts those experiences to 69 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: the world. Y'all. She is going to be deeply, deeply, 70 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: deeply missed by her viewers on MSNBC. But I got 71 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: to tell you, you know, joy from from from my lips 72 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: to your ears. I hope. Uh, this is a setup 73 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: for really God calling you into greater service, to higher purpose. 74 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: While you have served an incredible purpose up to this point, 75 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: you're being called into higher service. And sometimes in the 76 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: process of moving into higher service, you have to be sifted. 77 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Remember those that old equipment that our grandparents, my grandmama 78 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: used to use when she was doing her pancakes, a 79 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: corn bread and the flour would go into the sifter 80 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: and it would sift all the way through. But what 81 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: would come out as a finer grain of things and 82 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: it made everything taste just that much better. Well, there 83 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: is a finer grain of you that is through this 84 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: process and on the other side, and so many of 85 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: us just can't wait to see whether that takes you, 86 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: and more importantly, where it takes us collectively. But before 87 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: we get to what Joy Read's next steps are, I 88 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: think we have to send a very very important signal 89 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: to the corporate folks who are making these decisions, are 90 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: silencing our voices, are supplanting our voices with you know, 91 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: minstrel shows and dictates of how they think we are 92 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: supposed to show up on their platforms. We need to 93 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: send them a signal that this is not a game, 94 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: This is not a toy, This is not a transaction 95 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: that you trade in and trade out. This is our 96 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: lives and we deserve and need voices who are going 97 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: to speak truth and power to the powerful about what we're, 98 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: what our lived experiences are, and what we need and 99 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: what we demand of the system. And Joy has unapologetically 100 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: done that on behalf of all of us standing in 101 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: the gap. We've got to send a signal, And so 102 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: I want to join the bandwagon of folks who today 103 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: are encouraging folks to watch Joy's last sign off show 104 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: tonight on MSNBC during her normal regular seven pm Eastern 105 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: Standard time, and wherever you live you can you can 106 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: you can obviously look up the show times, but be 107 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: with her, stand with her, hold her spiritually during this 108 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: time where she has to make it through this show 109 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: on the network that summarily decided that her voice was 110 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: no longer a value to them. At this moment, we 111 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: want to say that her voice is valuable to us, 112 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: that it means something to us, that we are powering 113 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: her forward. Even if they can't see it, we're gonna 114 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: help to make sure that they feel it. So at 115 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: the end of the conclusion of her show tonight and 116 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: Joy will sign off by telling her telling the rest 117 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: of us where it is that we can go and 118 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: find her voice beyond this current platform. And after that, y'all, 119 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna turn the TV off. We're gonna shut it down. 120 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: We're going to log off of whatever platforms in which 121 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: you are watching or hearing MSNBC, and we're gonna send 122 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: them a very important message that our voices matter. And 123 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: guess what. My voice right now is being interrupted by 124 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: my cell phones. And this has always been my theory 125 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: about these lives. I'm telling you, y'all, I am technology 126 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: of tooth and if it happens again, just charge it 127 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: to my head, not to my heart. I'm gonnaigure this 128 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: out by the time we get into the next one, 129 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: but we want to make sure that they hear and feel, 130 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: more importantly, feel the effect of when we choose to 131 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: take our time and attention, a very precious and non 132 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: renewable resource, our time and attention, when we choose to 133 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: put that elsewhere. Joy, We're going to follow you wherever 134 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: you go, and tonight we want to make a very 135 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: very strong, important show of support that we're going to 136 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: have your back because you have had our backs in 137 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: our fronts and sides and other blind spots when we 138 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: didn't even know it. The last confession I'll make on 139 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: this one with regard to Joy is that when I 140 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: ran for governor of the state of Florida back in 141 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and it was looking like we might that 142 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: we could potentially pull off a win in that race, 143 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: I reached out to Joy and asked her if she 144 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: could do her show live from Florida, and that I 145 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: would grant her if I were to win that race. 146 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: The first interview after the race was concluded, possibly later 147 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: that that election night or maybe the next morning, and 148 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: Joy did what she had to do, and she showed up. 149 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: I didn't get to see her that night. It was 150 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: a it was of course, it worked out a different way, 151 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: and it was a bit heartbreaking on one end, but 152 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: she did what was necessary within whatever the corporate confines were, 153 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: to try to bring to the American people the experience 154 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: that we had here in Florida. And I'll never forget that. 155 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: And she's been her friend and the gap on so many, 156 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: so many more occasions. Don't believe the hype that they're 157 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: trying to sell us about unqualified, whatever stories they want 158 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: to put out, ratings, all this craziness. You see the 159 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: enemy tries to use. They do a little jiu jitsu. 160 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: They take their weakest and most vulnerable place, and they 161 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: then project that vulnerability onto other communities, other people, so 162 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: that they can then insulate themselves from attack. What am 163 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: I talking about, Well, I'm talking very specifically about not 164 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: just Joy's incidents, and which is an example of the 165 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 1: corporate side, but this picture, it can be drawn a 166 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: lot bigger. It's not just the corporate We want you 167 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: to obviously watch her show this evening, throw our support 168 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: behind her, but following that, we want to make sure 169 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: that we follow Joy and read on every platform in 170 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: what she is listed. So if you in Snapchat, Instagram, 171 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: blue Sky, whatever the platforms are that you get information 172 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: and share information, please please please go ahead and put 173 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: in the search engine right now Joy and read. If 174 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: you don't already do it now follow her and then 175 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: contact MSNBC. Let our voices be heard and let them 176 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: know that we disagree with the step that they've taken 177 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: and that they want our business. They best do better 178 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: to bring us to voices who best represent our community. 179 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: All skin folk and kim folk and all folks who 180 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: may reflect what we look like who are on television 181 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: are not necessarily speaking our truth and telling our stories. 182 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: The number at MSNBC, and we'll hopefully get this in 183 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: show notes is two one two six six four four 184 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: four four four. Let's light up that board and make 185 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: sure that they know that we're watching. When prompted, press one, 186 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: then press two. Leave a message stating that you believe 187 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: that their actions are unacceptable and that we need brave 188 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: and honest journalists like Joy and Reid to come to 189 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: us on their platforms as well. We want you to 190 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: watch obviously tonight, but we want you to disconnect immediately 191 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: following from the platform. That will bring us her show 192 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: tonight MSNBC at seven pm Eastern Standard time, and look 193 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: for your local networks for your showtimes. And then, last, 194 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: and certainly not at least, we want you to spread 195 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: the word. If you post about watching the show tonight 196 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: or anything related to it you're discussed around the decision, 197 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: please use the hashtag. We need joy. We need joy 198 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: in so many forms, joy in our spirit, but also 199 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: joy the person. And we thank you for bringing us 200 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: both of those joy. Thank you for your friendship. We 201 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: will follow you wherever because you are a true and 202 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: an honest voice who has earned our trust. And know 203 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: Johnny Come Lately or Surprise or pop up figure is 204 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: going to have our trust. You have to earn it, 205 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: you have to work for it. You put in the work, 206 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: and that's why we want to put in some work 207 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: for you. What I was getting to on second topic, 208 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: just changing the page, and then finally I'll talk to 209 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: you about what we hope to do with these on 210 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: a regular basis when we come to you in these 211 00:12:48,679 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: solo pods. When I talked about the enemy weaponizing their 212 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: weakness to insulate themselves from attack, I'm talking about this 213 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: DEI stuff right which I have translated to the N 214 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: word is how I experience it when they use it, 215 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: it seems like the sessing out of us wherever they 216 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: can find it. Well, this weekend, something else happened in 217 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: addition to the news and the corporate world regarding Joy Reid, 218 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: the general who led the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which 219 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: is the which is the collection of all of the 220 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: military chiefs and leaders across the various branches, including the 221 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: National Guard. This is the group that assembles as advisory 222 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: to the President of the United States, Defense Secretary of 223 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: the United States, and the intelligent chiefs of our country. 224 00:13:55,280 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: They are the official advisory group Joint Chiefs that chairmen 225 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: of the Joint Chiefs serves both and Democratic and Republican administrations. 226 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: Why because their oath and their fealty is to the 227 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: Constitution of the United States and to the people and 228 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: the nation of the United States. Well, the current Joint 229 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: the previous I guess I should say, before he was 230 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: fired Chairman of the Joint chief of Staff was General C. Q. Brown, 231 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: who spent forty years as a pilot in the Air Force, 232 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: met all of the criteria. There were no lessening of criteria, 233 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: no quotas having to be met. It simply required that 234 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: those making this decision looked across the entire board of 235 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: qualified individuals underscore qualified, and choose from amongst them a 236 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: person who would lead the Joint Chiefs. While President Trump 237 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: decided to dismiss CQ. Brown this weekend and removing him 238 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: from his position in addition to a couple of other 239 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: top brass within the United States Armed Services, and replaced 240 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: him not with somebody equally qualified or really not with 241 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: somebody who is just qualified for the position of Chairman 242 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: of the Joint Chiefs, which does require special experiences in 243 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: qualifications to be named. He decided to name a gentleman 244 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: named Dan Caine, who I don't know personally, but yes, 245 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: says served this country and we thank him for it. 246 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: But in appointing mister Caine, the President actually had to 247 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: waive the criteria necessary for him to have been automatically 248 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: qualified for the President to make that appointment. The President 249 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: has the ability to waive that criteria if he chooses, 250 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: if it is in the best interests of the nation. Well, 251 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: he determined it was in the best interest of the 252 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: name to appoint someone who was not qualified technically for 253 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: the position, so he takes out a qualified individual who 254 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: met all of the standards, no quotas simply qualified ready 255 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: to serve, and replace them with someone who, while they 256 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: have served this nation and we are grateful, was not 257 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: qualified on paper to be named the Chairman of the 258 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: Joint Chiefs of Staff. I think we would all agree 259 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: that Secretary Hexseth, who is now the Secretary of Defense, 260 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: who pales can't even be mentioned in the same sentence 261 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: as his predecessor, quite frankly, but is unqualified for the 262 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: position that he holds. And that, frankly is true across 263 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: the board with almost all of Trump's appointments to the 264 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: National Cabinet. So what do they do. They go on 265 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: a rampage against Dei, which they say didn't earn it, 266 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: and truth all their folks didn't earn it. Yet they're 267 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: in these positions, and they are placing men and women 268 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: and folks of color and other marginalized people who fought 269 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: to be just considered off their merit. They're being pushed out, 270 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: while people with no merit at all are being pushed in. 271 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: I say this, y'all because I think we have to 272 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: begin to forward our truthful narrative around this We shouldn't 273 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: be pushed back on our back heel in this fight 274 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: around DEI when it simply means take the qualified individual 275 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: and guess what. Look beyond your circle of friends, Look 276 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: to the people who are qualified but may not share 277 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: your same lived experience, are committed to the constitution, but 278 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: may not be loyal to you the individual, because their 279 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: oath is to the constitutional and to the country. We 280 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: have no shame, we ought to have no shame around 281 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: the term diversity, equity, and inclusion. We are not carry 282 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: the load that they want to put on our backs 283 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: of dishonesty. Like we didn't earn where we are. We 284 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: earned it. We worked hard, in fact, in many cases, 285 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: harder than most that surround us to get those positions. 286 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: We're not going to tolerate that they want to apply 287 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: that across the corporate sector and across now the public sector. 288 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: And it's simply a lot, and we have to reject it. Finally, y'all, 289 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: I just want to say, when we come to you, 290 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: at least when I'm doing many pots, I'm going to 291 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: try my very very best to ensure that they're bringing 292 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: information and education and hopefully that you'll leave our conversations 293 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: having felt more informed and more equip than when you 294 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: joined us. And so in that spirit and in the 295 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: spirit of where I sort of started describing these many 296 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: pods to you, at least from my perspective, is that 297 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: in the coming weeks, I'm going to take time, with 298 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: the support and help of Lolo, one of our producers, 299 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: who's going to pop in here in a moment to 300 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: let me know if there are any questions, We're gonna 301 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: walk our listening audience through some of the basics and 302 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: fundamentals around organizing. How do we get our communities ratcheted up, 303 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: how do we move them not just through this moment, 304 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: but to a place where I think as a community 305 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: we begin to live our truest, fullest sells and have 306 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: the policies and institutions that are around us being built 307 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: to support that growth, that freedom, that independence, that ability 308 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: to live truly free and unencumbered, in order to get 309 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: closer to that beloved community that I think all of 310 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: us want and admire. It doesn't have to be a 311 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: pipe dream, but it does require something of us and 312 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: from us, and quite frankly, it's the same thing that 313 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: democracy requires of us and from us, and that is 314 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: that we be in the movement in action in whatever 315 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: way that suits us and whatever way that deepens into 316 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: our skill set. But you can't maintain societies that see 317 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: us and respect us unless we're prepared to put in 318 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: the work. We shouldn't always have to, but given the 319 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: challenges we face, the foes we face, our ancestors didn't 320 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: let their knee break their necks, and we're not going 321 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 1: to let it happen to us. But it is going 322 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: to require the work. So today, what we're going to 323 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: make sure you have in the show notes as my 324 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: time comes to an end, is a list of organizations 325 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: and groups that you can research, determine whether or not 326 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: they fit in your skill set and interest area, and 327 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: then hopefully you make the move to deepen into how 328 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: you can better support the work of those entities and organizations. 329 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: And in the coming weeks, we want to talk to 330 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: you about how you then build that beloved community right 331 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: where you are, either online or in person, hopefully a 332 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: mix of both, but better equip each and every one 333 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: of us with the knowledge, the skills, and the tools 334 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: that are necessary to bend that arc more deeply, and 335 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: more admittedly, and more permanently. In the direction of justice 336 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: for all of us. With that, I want to avite, Lolo, 337 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: if there are any questions, I want our listeners to know, 338 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be just talking about organizing by 339 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: what by virtual of what I read. I'm going to 340 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: be talking about organizing from my own lived experience. For 341 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: many years, was an organizer, mostly on college campuses and 342 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: then in greater community. And then my organizing work led 343 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: to organizing elected officials who were our age and younger 344 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: and diverse cohorts so that they can be more effective 345 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: at bringing the benefits back to our community. And now 346 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: we got to organize for all of us. And so 347 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be talking to you about what 348 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: I've read. I'm going to be talking with you and 349 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: engaging and exchanging with you about what I know, and 350 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: hopefully you'll bring some of your experience to the table 351 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: and we'll just have a great exchange of how to 352 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: do this and do it the best and most effective way. 353 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: With that, Lolo, are there any questions, anything I missed, 354 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: anything I need to reiterate, let me know. 355 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all. All right, so we haven't gotten a lot 356 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: of questions, but there was one in particular I thought 357 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: was really cool. And so this person said, how do 358 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: we assert and not only respond We need to assert 359 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: because they're already expecting a response. 360 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: Well, let him expect the response, but we got to 361 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: give the response as well. That's number one. There is 362 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: a group right now working on a database that will 363 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: be able to direct us to either black owned or 364 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: black lead black hosted platforms where we can have a 365 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: exchange of information. We can get our source of information 366 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: and facts from people who we know and who we 367 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: trust that we don't always have to rely on the 368 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: corporate media quite frankly to do that for us. And 369 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: so in my thought around how it is we get 370 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: in front of just the reaction, just the response. And 371 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't take for granted that people 372 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: are gonna automatically respond. I gotta be honest about that, lol. 373 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have thoughts on it, but 374 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't take for granted that people automatically have a 375 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction that when someone does something that they 376 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: don't like, that they have a choice to make. They 377 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: can continue to support the thing that is doing the 378 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: thing that they don't like, or they can make another decision. 379 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: It can't be well, that's the network I've always gone to. 380 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: D there are other options, so we have a choice 381 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: to make. I don't think any of us should take 382 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: for granted that people are automatically going to do a 383 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: thing and reaction to being offended or heard, or let 384 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: down or quite frankly, pushed to the side. The reason 385 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: I mentioned this resource of other places that you can 386 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: go is because we don't want to leave you empty. 387 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: We want to make sure that our buying power can 388 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: continues to show its strength except we get to show 389 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: its strength and places that see us, know us, hear us, 390 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: respect us, and then respond lolo. I may have gotten 391 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: off on the on the question, but I think I 392 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: understood the question uh uh, and then reframed it to 393 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: basically say, one, don't assume we know what to do 394 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: when we're when we're pushed to the side. And then two, 395 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: let's do the work of finding the platforms that are 396 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: in service to us that we then support so that 397 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: folks are then incentivized to do more of the things 398 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: that are in service to us and not less. 399 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: Listen, so we have so I know, on a normal day, 400 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 2: this is just the first solo pie we would have 401 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: way more time to get through a lot of these questions. 402 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: There was one in particular, because we're on this topic, 403 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, and then I wanted to 404 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 2: close off with something that is just in general. So 405 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: this person asks, why are we still talking about DEI 406 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: if white women and white gays benefit the most. 407 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: Well, first, I don't know that. I don't have any 408 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: empirical data. If we're talking about affirmative action, that may 409 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: be one thing. I don't have any empirical data to 410 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: suggest that back at what level we are benefiting from diversity, 411 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: equity and inclusion, in part because, like there are a 412 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: lot of approaches to DEI. It can be if you 413 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: were a grosser or retailer. It could be in the 414 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: fact that you are including brands that are from communities 415 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: or constituencies that are not your normal, normal vendors, that 416 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: you're uplifting creative voices of black folks that have women 417 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. It could be if 418 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: you are in a workplace that there are deliberate steps 419 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: that are taken to showcase the talents of all people 420 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: and not just my homegirl or my homeboy who I 421 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: hang with. I know them. We share a lot in common, 422 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: and that's why they're always the ones that are selected 423 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: and tapped to give the presentation before the board or 424 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: before they're coworkers, right, So it takes a number of forms. 425 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: In my opinion, sometimes when we're climbing, we're bringing other 426 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: people who may not look like us or share all 427 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: of our identities along with us because they too have 428 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: been marginalized. I'm never gonna make the fight between marginal 429 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: communities and other marginal communities. That isn't the fight that 430 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: we want. That's the fight they want to give us. 431 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: I don't have a beef with women, I don't have 432 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: a beef with LGBTQ, I don't have a beef with 433 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: black folks in general. I'm saying, if all of us 434 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: are being oppressed, then we better figure out where we 435 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: have common cause and start that process of rising. But 436 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: they want us to gobble and fight between the folks 437 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: who they're marginalizing. They want us to fight about whether 438 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: or not this minority group or this minority group is 439 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: getting more time and attention and resource. And my suggestion 440 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: is there's plenty enough to go around, plenty enough, and 441 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: we're not gonna fight over the crumbs. We want to 442 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: be at the table and we're gonna fight over the meal, period. 443 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: I love that, and that was such a great response 444 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: because I'm like so many people say, but white women 445 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: are the main ones who benefited from the I I'm. 446 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: Like, they're oppressed too and are largely hated by the 447 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: power structure. But that's not our fight. That's on our fight. 448 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: We all have more women, morey LGBTQ, more black folk, 449 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: more of the marginalized communities, and there is enough to 450 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: go around. You see. They got us activating in this 451 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: mentality of deficit. We're always operating from a deficit mentality. Well, 452 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to operate from a deficit. We need 453 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: to operate from positions of strength and a power of 454 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: access resource. And what that means is you don't negotiate 455 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: against yourself before you get to the negotiating table. You 456 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: bring all of yourself to that table, and you negotiate 457 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: over the entire pie, not the crumbs. 458 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: All right, So to close the South, because I know 459 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 2: we gotta go, but to close this out this series, 460 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 2: I know you talked about it, but now we have 461 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: a lot more people on Live right now. So the 462 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: series that you are doing over the next few weeks 463 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: about how to get active. Can you just close let 464 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: us know what it is? 465 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely, so we're going to spend the next the coming 466 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: weeks of my mini pie helping folks get reconnected to 467 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: what it means to organizing community and whether that is virtual, 468 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: whether that is in person, whether that is building campaigns 469 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: that put pressure on power systems and structures. Right, the 470 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: saying is tried and true, but it is more true 471 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: than anything, and that is power yields nothing without a demand. 472 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,479 Speaker 1: So if we're expecting the system to see us and 473 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: to give to us because we're there, not going to happen. 474 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: We have to state our demands. I remember going in 475 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: and trying to negotiate from my first salary increase, and 476 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: I think I started by saying, you know, I hadn't 477 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: gotten an increase in three years, and my boss responded, well, 478 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: you hadn't asked in the past three years, And I'm like, 479 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: you see my work, you know my effort, you know 480 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: what we're doing all that to say, y'all, yeah, people 481 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: can see that and they'll take it for what is worth, 482 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: but it does not automatically trigger for them that they 483 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: ought to be paying for the services that were rendering. 484 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: And so we've got to get back to the basics 485 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: of organizing, how to do it, What do we start, 486 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: what does the middle of that look like? And then 487 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: what is the north star that we're aiming toward. And 488 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: I want to bring in some voices organizational leaders, people 489 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 1: who have had the experience of doing this, not just 490 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: in a professional capacity, but just as individuals in their 491 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: communities and their neighborhoods on their block, organizing to move 492 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: us towards the more beloved community economically, politically, socially and otherwise. 493 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: I think we've forgotten a lot about that in the 494 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: privilege that a lot of us have now come up in. 495 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: And while it ain't everybody, it doesn't reflect everybody's privilege. 496 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: Right there folks who are much more privileged than we are. 497 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: But we've also ascended to some levels of privilege. And 498 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: then so doing have I think forgotten some of the fundamentals, 499 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: and we need to deepen back into those fundamentals, get 500 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: back into those basics, understanding civics, understanding the pressure points, 501 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: recognizing that the federal government is one thing, but guess what, 502 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: we're a federation of fifty states, in a number of 503 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: territories and what pressure points can we impact and input 504 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: at our level to get the kind of outcomes that 505 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: we want. We know that pressure breaks pipes. We saw 506 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: it just this past week with members of the Republican 507 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: Party who host the town hall meetings that were explosive. 508 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: The people showed up and they're let their voices be 509 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: heard and by so doing, they're going to moderate the 510 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: actions of those elected representatives. I'm willing to bet on it, 511 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: but that's just one example. I think we can see 512 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: greater examples and greater successes when we organize. We know 513 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: that they're coming for us. They've already started. They're not 514 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: going to stop now. What we got to do is 515 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: get shake off the shock and get information with the knowledge, 516 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: skills and the tools that we need to fight back, 517 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: but not fight back for fighting sake, but to win. 518 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: That's what I'm committed to do, seeing us win, regardless 519 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: of what party is in power. We ought to be 520 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: winning at the end of the day, y'all, I appreciate 521 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: you taking time, Lolo, thank you for the help on that. 522 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: We'll see you when we see you, and when we do, 523 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: we're coming with our first deep training twenty minutes giving 524 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: you some skills that I think are going to help 525 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: transform our communities and our country as a result of 526 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: Thank You Everybody by Native Land. Pod is a production 527 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio in partnership with Resent Choice Media. 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