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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Zach Braf here. I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: open the show and talk about merch because Donald and

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Speaker 1: I always forget to talk about merch. And Christmas is

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Speaker 1: coming up, and you know what your loved ones want,

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Speaker 1: and you know what you want more than anything really

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Speaker 1: is some good old fake doctors, real friends, merch. Most

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Speaker 1: appropriately for Christmas, there's a Christmas ornament of me riding

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Speaker 1: Donald Eagle style, not any other style, me riding Donald.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful ornament. And I'm gonna tell you about

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Speaker 1: everything else on here real quick. What you do is

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Speaker 1: you go to Cottonbureau dot com and then just search

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Speaker 1: for fake doctors cottonbureau dot com and then search for

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Speaker 1: fake doctors. There's wrapping paper with our faces on it.

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Speaker 1: There's a beach towel. There's a washcloth because you know,

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Speaker 1: we like to talk about washcloths. There's three different T shirts.

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Speaker 1: There's a pop socket for your phone of me eagling Donald. Oh.

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Speaker 1: This is really cool. For those of you who have

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Speaker 1: to wear a badge to work, particularly in the medical profession,

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Speaker 1: there's a badge holder with our faces on it that

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Speaker 1: has one of those pull out things for when you

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Speaker 1: have to swipe your badge on things. I want one

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Speaker 1: of those, and I don't even have a place to

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Speaker 1: wear a badge. I see someone made a Queen Joel

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Speaker 1: T shirt. I don't even know if that's through us

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Speaker 1: or what, but ah this I see. There's some like

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Speaker 1: after marketing looking ones things, meaning we didn't make them.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, there's cool stuff on you.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Also, most importantly, there's a few of our legendary onesies left,

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Speaker 1: but they're only small and medium. If you happen to

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Speaker 1: be a smaller medium human being, you could get one

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Speaker 1: of those limited edition onesies we made, which are pretty hilarious.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Go check out the store. There's cool stuff

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Speaker 1: for your Christmas gift giving season, and Hanukah and Kwanza

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Speaker 1: and any other holiday where you give presents. Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: the show. This is I listen, audience. I successfully got

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Speaker 1: Donald of Vegas and this voice that I have as

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Speaker 1: a result of that experience. I wish I had this

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Speaker 1: voice all the time. Actually, no, you don't, Yes, I do.

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Speaker 1: I could. I just feel like i'd be more effective

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Speaker 1: in my life.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that you'd be as successful if you

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Speaker 3: spoke like this all the time, Bro.

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Speaker 1: Well, look at James old Jones. He did just film.

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Speaker 2: Sound like James O. Jones. You sound like somebody you's

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Speaker 2: sick right now?

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Speaker 1: No, don and I did a lot of singing in

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Speaker 1: Oh my God.

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Speaker 3: It was like carpool karaoke. The thing is when you

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Speaker 3: hang out with someone like Andrew Watt, you just you

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Speaker 3: know who is amazing, an amazing musician and can play

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Speaker 1: He brought his little parlor guitar, you know, one of

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Speaker 1: those little small guitars like that, like a travel guitar,

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Speaker 1: and anything you start singing, he just can play instantly.

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Speaker 1: And so it was like it was like a car.

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Speaker 1: It was karaoke all the time.

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Speaker 3: And he could play it in any key also, so

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Speaker 3: like if you start in one key, he'll be like,

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Speaker 3: all right, hold up one second, all right, let's go.

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Speaker 2: He's pretty impressive, buddy.

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Speaker 1: You know, Donald, you don't sing a lot. I mean

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Speaker 1: I sing, and I wish you sing quite a bit. Actually, well,

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Speaker 1: our podcast viewers know you sing. But for example we

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Speaker 1: were in Andrew Watt. For those of you who don't know,

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Speaker 1: super mega producer. He was Producer of the Year Rock

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Speaker 1: two years in a row and he's he's an insane guitarist.

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Speaker 1: He uh produced the new Lady Gaga album that's coming

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Speaker 1: out Joelle. Anyway, so he when he came with us

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Speaker 1: and Bill Lawrence and Charlotte's daughter who's dating Andrew that's

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Speaker 1: and Andrews playing together was so fun.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun I had. I had

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Speaker 2: a really good time in Vegas. You know this is guys,

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Speaker 2: you went here. Well, there's sort of a lesson.

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Speaker 3: This motherfucker said, dude, it's gonna be epic, and everyone

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Speaker 3: he said that too, was like, yeah, okay, sure it'll

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Speaker 2: This turned out to be a fucking epic adventure.

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Speaker 1: We soon, brother, if I promise epic, if.

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Speaker 3: Fucking epic all the way from the plane ride to

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Speaker 3: the plane ride back. It was epic, so much so

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Speaker 1: I feel I still feel tired today. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: First of all, let's get to the let's get you got.

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Speaker 1: To say Bill, who's so cocky and like his whole thing,

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Speaker 1: And then it's time. Bill's turned to roll and he's like,

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Speaker 3: First of all, when someone says that that's the ultimate

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Speaker 3: jinx right before craps, right, so we're like, all right, fine,

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Speaker 3: little bit more down. He rolls another seven, he rolled seven,

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and they're asking us if we have those

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Speaker 2: Like how do I do? I know you? And so

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Speaker 3: He hits eight, right, and so now we got to

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Speaker 2: And he proceeds to hit every.

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Speaker 2: Like a half for like a not for a half hour.

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Speaker 3: For finally he goes, you know what, let me just

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Speaker 3: roll the fucking eight. Let me just roll a hard eight.

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Speaker 3: And we all have money on a hard eight. He

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Speaker 2: Not only he calls it, he does it.

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Speaker 3: And holy shit, everybody got paid and we're not playing

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Speaker 1: By the way, Bill was so coming, he had like

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Speaker 1: every time he he he hit the number. Everyone would

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Speaker 2: Let me, let me.

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Speaker 4: He's a leader, just let me be.

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Speaker 2: And so fine.

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Speaker 3: So we get to it for like a half an hour.

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Speaker 3: So he hits it and then he rolls some more.

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Speaker 3: He hits it again, then he rolls some more and

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Speaker 2: We're like, dude, this ship is.

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Speaker 3: When he said that, immediately he rolls the seven, and

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Speaker 3: it was like, all right.

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Speaker 1: He knew it was fun.

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Speaker 5: It's incredible.

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Speaker 4: We can ask change your mind, Zach.

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Speaker 2: What did you do Togein? You didn't do anything. I

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Speaker 3: My wife was like, he's going with She was like,

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Speaker 3: he's going with Bill. Bill is going and I was like,

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Speaker 3: so she was like, if this motherfucker creates a deal

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Speaker 3: for Scrubs with Bill and you're not there, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: In my mind, I'm like, this will never happen, right,

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Speaker 3: this will never this will never a deal without me,

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Speaker 3: there will never happen anyway.

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Speaker 1: In your mind, we're going to negotioot you out of

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Speaker 1: her mind like to do her I'd like to do scrubs,

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Speaker 1: but without Donald.

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Speaker 2: That was her mind.

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Speaker 3: Her mind was like, We're gonna do scrubs without Donald.

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Speaker 3: That's what she said.

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Speaker 4: Far I said.

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Speaker 1: I wish I didn't hear this story, because I thought

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Speaker 2: When I didn't have to worry about that anymore, I

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Speaker 1: Then we went because we were at the Wind and

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Speaker 1: the Chainsmokers were playing at this uh at the venue.

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Speaker 1: And Andrew's of course friends with the.

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Speaker 3: Friends with everybody. They lived with him at one point,

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Speaker 1: He's like, so he's like, you, guys, I don't know

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Speaker 1: the DJ, but you got to experience this. It's crazy

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Speaker 1: on a Saturday night at this club. So we went,

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Speaker 3: Before we get there, we got to talk about the

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Speaker 3: suite that they had to they had, they had they

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Speaker 1: No, not the exact one, we're saying one that so

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Speaker 2: And so we get there.

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Speaker 1: The kind of sweet you get if you're the performer

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Speaker 3: We get there and they're like, come down with us,

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Speaker 2: They got an outdoor club.

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Speaker 3: So we get to the DJ booth and the DJ

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Speaker 2: His whole thing was like, I don't understand. Are they

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Speaker 2: I mean, I love let's because.

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Speaker 1: it's funny. Crabs is more fun than Blackcheck. I think

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Speaker 1: It's just the whole time. No, you get twenty one

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: How is this consistently happening?

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Speaker 3: You try to fight I'm halfway to the grave. You

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Speaker 1: I think the lesson is that you should let me

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Speaker 1: Well all right, So if you're wondering why my voice

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Speaker 3: And you know, you were screaming because we were winning

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Speaker 2: We were listening to bds.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's why our voices. Oh boy, Scott Galloway's here.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a very fancy guest. We're so lucky

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: I asked Joel Joelle to get him force and he's

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure we made about a bunch of.

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Speaker 6: Dogs and nurses and.

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Speaker 4: You said, he's a story.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna say something to you, but Jack

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Speaker 2: But you seem so even Keel. No matter what, Bro,

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Speaker 4: that's mathematically impossible. It's not because women are dating older.

442
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Speaker 4: Because women want more economically and emotionally viable men and

443
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Speaker 4: they're not finding them. How many times have you heard

444
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Speaker 4: I have all these wonderful women in my universe, smart, attractive,

445
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 4: shit together, but they can't find men. No, they can

446
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 4: find men. They just can't find any men they want

447
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 4: a date. We're producing the most anxious, insecure, economically and

448
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Speaker 4: emotionally unviable, obese, anxious generation of men in history, or

449
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Speaker 4: at least in our country. And you know, we also

450
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 4: need to feel okay about celebrating young men. Young men

451
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 4: have fought and won the most consequential.

452
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Speaker 1: Wars in history.

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Speaker 4: Young men have built some of the most amazing things

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Speaker 4: in our nation that we're really proud of or outside

455
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Speaker 4: of the nation, whether it's the Panama Canala of the

456
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Speaker 4: Empire state building. It's okay to fall back in love

457
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Speaker 4: with the notion of a strong young American man. And

458
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 4: on the far right they tell men to be cruel

459
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 4: and course and to be like misogynists. That's not the answer.

460
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 4: And on the far left we tell men the answers,

461
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Speaker 4: act more like a woman. I don't think that's the

462
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Speaker 4: answer either. So a movement to solutions one just biologically,

463
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 4: young men mature at a slower rate. Literally, their prefrontal

464
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 4: cortex is eighteen months behind a woman's. I would say

465
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Speaker 4: as a father, my role is I'm a prefrontal cortex.

466
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Speaker 4: I walk them through decisions like they're supposed to make

467
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Speaker 4: with their executive functions of their brain. We need to.

468
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Speaker 4: I would like to see us red shirt kindergarteners, and

469
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Speaker 4: that is boys star at kindergarten at six, girls at five.

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Speaker 4: If you have a time to cut you off.

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Speaker 3: I think they do that already in California in the

472
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Speaker 3: private schools. So girls in knat's right, Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Well, rich people have this trick. They lie about their

474
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Speaker 4: son's age and they hold them back. When I grew

475
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Speaker 4: up in the space race, where everyone thought, oh, the

476
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Speaker 4: key is to produce super talented young men who will

477
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 4: beat the Russians, and so everyone was always trying to

478
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Speaker 4: get me to skip a grade. I showed up at

479
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Speaker 4: college when I was seventeen, and I was just too

480
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Speaker 4: immature to handle alcohol and women and the responsibility. Being

481
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 4: away from m was a disaster for me. So now

482
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 4: everyone is trying to hold their boys back, and you

483
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 4: have to show up at a lot of schools with

484
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Speaker 4: a birth certificate because people are lying about their boys

485
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Speaker 4: to try and get their all. In all that, the

486
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Speaker 4: youngest boy in a class is more likely to be depressed.

487
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: He's physically smaller, he's more immature, he's more likely.

488
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Speaker 1: To be bullied.

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Speaker 4: So people have caught on. I'm saying, let's formalize it.

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Speaker 4: Kindergarten start a six year old for boys, five year

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Speaker 4: old for girls. More men in primary school education. Seventy

492
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Speaker 4: to eighty percent of primary school teachers are women. There

493
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Speaker 4: are more per capita female fighter pilots than male kindergarten teachers.

494
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Speaker 4: And who is a female teacher going to champion. She's

495
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Speaker 4: going to champion people who remind herself of her and

496
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Speaker 4: that's natural. A boy is, on a behavioral adjusted basis,

497
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Speaker 4: twice as likely to be suspended for the exact same

498
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Speaker 4: behavior as a girl. A black boy five times is

499
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Speaker 4: likely to be suspended for the exact same infraction. And

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Speaker 4: think about what we want from our kids in primary school.

501
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: Sit still, be organized, be a pleaser. Raise your hand

502
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 4: you describe a girl when there's boys only schools, they

503
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 4: end up with twice the amount of recess time. They

504
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Speaker 4: award aggression or more what a call initiation, more physicality.

505
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Speaker 4: So we have an education system that's biased against boys

506
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: going further in education. If you're a university like mine NYU,

507
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Speaker 4: and you have an endowment over a billion dollars and

508
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Speaker 4: you're not growing your freshman class faster than population, you

509
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Speaker 4: should lose your tax re status because you're no longer

510
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Speaker 4: a public servant. You're a hedge fund offering classes. We

511
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Speaker 4: need a ton more vocational programs. Remember wood shop, autoshop,

512
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Speaker 4: and metal shop.

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Speaker 3: All gone disappeared on high school for me because I

514
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Speaker 3: had it in JUNI I had it in elementary school.

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Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, by junior high school. All

516
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Speaker 2: of that was gone.

517
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Speaker 4: Because we all knew that guy who was never going

518
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Speaker 4: to go to college, but he could fix a car,

519
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 4: he was good with his hands. He was the guy

520
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 4: that was they could come over and build the actual treehouse,

521
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Speaker 4: like actually knew how to build it. There used to

522
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: be an on ramp into an American middle class for

523
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 4: that guy, and now it's no longer there.

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Speaker 1: Why did they get rid of it? I mean, is

525
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Speaker 1: this budget cuts? I understand.

526
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Speaker 4: I think we became in love with technology and computer science,

527
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: so we replace civics and wood shop with computer science,

528
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 4: and that's why we have Mark Zuckerberg. But there's been

529
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Speaker 4: a deemphasizing of kind of those what i'll call more

530
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Speaker 4: male oriented on ramps into trade, so a lot more

531
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Speaker 4: vocational program Eleven percent of LinkedIn profiles in the YUKN,

532
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: Germany the title is apprentice. It's three percent in the US.

533
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Speaker 4: Where do you go? It's as parents. If our kids

534
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Speaker 4: don't get into college, they failed. Have you been to

535
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Speaker 4: those parties with us like gosh, oh, Bobby dropped out

536
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: of Rutgers. He's home. Everyone's failed. The family needs to

537
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Speaker 4: be shamed. Everyone's failed. Two thirds of American kids are

538
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Speaker 4: not going to get a college, a traditional college, agree

539
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: some more vocational programming. I think we did need expand

540
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: a child tax credit. I think we need to stop

541
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 4: this economic transfer of wealth from young to old. The

542
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 4: average seven year old is seventy two percent wealthier than

543
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Speaker 4: they were forty years ago. The average person under the

544
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Speaker 4: age of forty is twenty four percent less wealthy. Sixty

545
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Speaker 4: percent of people aged thirty to thirty four forty years

546
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 4: ago used to have a kid in their house. Now

547
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 4: it's twenty seven percent. Not because people decided they don't

548
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: want kids, they can't find someone to mate with, and

549
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Speaker 4: they don't have the money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

551
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Speaker 4: So I'm you know, I got a stack of things

552
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Speaker 4: I think we could do. I think most of them

553
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: should be focused on young people, not on men, because

554
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Speaker 4: I think it'll be politicized. But I think young people

555
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: a reinvestment in young people to lift them up. What

556
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: are the two biggest tax deductions Mortgage interest rate and

557
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: capital guients who owns homes and socks people my age

558
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Speaker 4: who makes their money from current income and rents Joelle

559
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: and yeah, danel So why do I get all the

560
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: tax brates the incumbents and the wealthy have weaponized the

561
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Speaker 4: tax code to transfer wealth from young to old, and

562
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 4: it's been disproportionately impactful on young men, who, quite frankly,

563
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: we don't like to have an honest conversation around mating.

564
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: If a guy, if a woman is economic, women made

565
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 4: socioeconomically horizontally enup men horizontally and down. If a guy's

566
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: not economically viable, he's not going to form a family,

567
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: he's not going to have romantic relationships. And unfortunately for men,

568
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: they come off the rails without the guardrails of a

569
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 4: romantic relationship. They stop showering, they start demonizing people, the

570
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 4: more prone to misogynistic content, They don't believe in climate change,

571
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 4: and someday become really shitty citizens. Whereas when women don't

572
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 4: have a relationship, they tend to do a better job

573
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 4: of maintaining their social network. They pour some of that

574
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: love and that energy into their work and into their

575
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 4: existing friendships. Men without the prospect of a romantic relationship

576
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 4: or quite frankly, sex kind of come off the tracks.

577
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: And it was I think there's a ton of things

578
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 4: we could do. I think we fuck this up. We

579
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 4: can unfuck it.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break.

581
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. What percentage

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Speaker 1: of that falls upon this rise of of of social

583
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Speaker 1: media and the suckerberg of all people just as a

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Speaker 1: as an archetype, do do you? Is it correct to

585
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: blame a certain percentage of this on everyone just moving

586
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: to staring at their screens all day?

587
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 4: Oh, it's been the chaser. It hasn't helped. It's been

588
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 4: very hard on girls. I mean, think about Instagram. It's

589
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 4: the fakest Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Professor G, but it's the fakest shit ever.

591
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: Man.

592
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: Nobody's real on that thing.

593
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: You can't find a real thing on that And and

594
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Speaker 3: I fell victim to it early too, where I was like,

595
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Speaker 3: I don't have enough. We said it on the freaking

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to cut you off, but we said it

597
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: on the podcast. I need more followers.

598
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't have enough followers.

599
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: I don't have more followers than zech who gives a shit, dude,

600
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: it's not.

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Speaker 1: But also you're a you're an adult male. I mean,

602
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: what I assume he's about to say is do you

603
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: know what this is doing to teen and preteen girls? Minds?

604
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: It's we at least can call it out and go Okay,

605
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: are you really seriously depressed right now because so and

606
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: so is in Europe on a boat and you're sitting

607
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: on your couch. We at least can laugh at ourselves.

608
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: The young minds are are being so screwed.

609
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: It is correct, but it's a false sense of wealth

610
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: and it's a false sense of happiness when you watch

611
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: that shit and all these people think I need to

612
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: do that to be happy, and it's like, no, dude,

613
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: that is not the answer. You're not gonna be happy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I might be happy on a boat in

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Speaker 3: the middle of you know, Central Peig. Yeah, sure, but

616
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: you're not. That's not gonna That's not gonna make me

617
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Speaker 3: have a great life because I'm doing that.

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Speaker 1: It's the constant comparison of yourself to somebody.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's two types of porn. I think Instagram is

620
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: essentially a porn site, And there's two types of porn.

621
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: There's wealth porn where I'm trying to shove my foe

622
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: oftentimes fake. By the way, anyone who's really wealthy doesn't

623
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: go on answer to talk about their wealth. You know,

624
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: if you're taking pictures of a jet, it means it

625
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: isn't yours. And right, so they're shoving your success in

626
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: other people's face, and they're not inspired by it. They

627
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: just feel worse about themselves. And then there's actual porn,

628
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: and that is the algorithm sexualize young girls. And think

629
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: about just how fucking perverted Instagram is. I'm going to

630
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: use an algorithm to encourage a fifteen year old to

631
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 4: dress more and more provocatively such that strange men from

632
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: around the world and her peers can comment on her looks.

633
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: That is just so wrong and so weird. And then

634
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 4: the algorithms also love rage. I'm in marketing and we

635
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: thought from forty five to ninety five, we thought sex sells.

636
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 4: Show an aspirational vision of sexual attractiveness and attach it

637
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Speaker 4: to a beer product that sells. What we found is

638
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 4: there's something that sells more than sex, and that's rage.

639
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: Try and get people to start arguing each other, Zach,

640
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: your last movie sucked. Donald, You're not living up to

641
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: your obligations as a black man. No one would ever

642
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: say that shit to you in person. But they want

643
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: you to fight. They want you to start ship posting

644
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: each other, and the algorithms love that because then it

645
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 4: gets more comments, more Nissan ads, more shareholder values. So

646
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 4: you have these algorithms that are training everyone to be coarse,

647
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: less empathetic, sexualize yourself. If you're a young girl and

648
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: if you're a young man, you can go down these

649
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: rabbit holes and maybe you can't find a date. Well,

650
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: there's a bunch of there's a bunch of groups on

651
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: discord and Reddit that will tell you it's women's fault.

652
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 4: It's not your fault, it's their fault. It's immigrants who

653
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: are taking your job right. And so in addition to

654
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: top it all off, and I see this with my

655
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: son who's fourteen, as his brain is being wired, it's

656
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: being wired to have a DOPA bag that he can

657
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Speaker 4: squeeze whenever he wants right, And I think of our

658
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Speaker 4: jobs as parents as what I call slopa to try

659
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Speaker 4: and convince him to get the immense DOPA hit you

660
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Speaker 4: get when you study hard and you get an A

661
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Speaker 4: in biology. That's like hugely rewarding to save some money,

662
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Speaker 4: to work, save some money, and then you have a

663
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Speaker 4: little bit of money to go to college. That felt

664
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Speaker 4: really good for me when I went to UCLA. That's

665
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Speaker 4: slow dopa. But unfortunately they have this casino porn site

666
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Speaker 4: ipick theater slot machine in their pocket at the age

667
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Speaker 4: of thirteen or fourteen, and just as their brain is

668
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Speaker 4: being wired, they're learning I need dopa now, I need

669
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Speaker 4: dope out and I see with my kid, my kid good,

670
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Speaker 4: I'm not proud of this. My kid will go into

671
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Speaker 4: the bathroom of his phone so we can be on

672
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Speaker 4: TikTok and he won't come out. He'll pretend that he's

673
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 4: in there for an hour and he'll scream, I need privacy,

674
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you're on TikTok. You're not fooling anybody.

675
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 4: And then when he gets out of there and we

676
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: take the phone away, he so badly needs a reaction

677
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: and more dopa. He starts acting out and being a real,

678
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Speaker 4: really really good this is this is.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, and it's YouTube and it's because we

680
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: don't have TikTok. So they found YouTube, and now YouTube

681
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: places TikTok videos right, And I can't get my kids

682
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Speaker 3: to sit down to watch a movie anymore because it's

683
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Speaker 3: too long pretty much, you.

684
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Speaker 4: Know what I mean?

685
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Speaker 3: That shows that are like ten minutes. That's about enough

686
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: time for them to say, Okay, I like that show,

687
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Speaker 3: Let's go to the next.

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Speaker 2: What's next? But if a movie it's two.

689
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Speaker 3: And a half hours, they start, they can't make it through.

690
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Speaker 3: I want to go do something else I want to do,

691
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? The only way it works

692
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Speaker 3: is if you take them to the movies and it's

693
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Speaker 3: like a second.

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Speaker 4: You're so right down. The last weekend, I said, I

695
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Speaker 4: just want you guys to watch some movies I loved

696
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Speaker 4: growing up. So I said, we're gonna watch these two

697
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Speaker 4: movies this weekend, Breaking Away and Cinema Paradise. So I'm like,

698
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Speaker 4: I love these movies and I want you to watch

699
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Speaker 4: them with me. Kids couldn't make it. They've lasted forty minutes.

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Speaker 4: That was it. That's it. They couldn't get through it.

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Speaker 3: It's the worst feeling ever too, because you feel like,

702
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Speaker 3: as a father or as a parent, I'm failing my kid,

703
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm definitely failing my kid

704
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: because my kid not only does my kid all of

705
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: a sudden turn into this monster after we take the

706
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Speaker 3: screens away, you know what I mean. I don't necessarily

707
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Speaker 3: know how to combat that either, man, because I'm no

708
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Speaker 3: one that did it to them by giving Scott.

709
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Speaker 4: We're all addicted to our screens. So we get him

710
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Speaker 4: their screen so we can go back to ours.

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Speaker 1: Scott. Do you there was this excuse me, movement to

712
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Speaker 1: almost ban TikTok, I assume because it's it's owned by

713
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Speaker 1: the Chinese government or controlled by the Chinese government. And

714
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Speaker 1: I actually thought that was going to happen for a second.

715
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Speaker 1: Not that these companies will self regulate, but do you

716
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Speaker 1: think there's any world where they're more responsible for not

717
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Speaker 1: allowing people under sixteen to be on them in some way?

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Speaker 4: No. We keep hoping that they're better angels A to

719
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: show up and we it just doesn't happen. They're doing

720
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Speaker 4: their job, We're not doing ours. Their job is to

721
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Speaker 4: make money.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the.

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Speaker 4: Cigarette guys stood in front of Congress and raised their

724
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 4: right hand and said, I don't believe nicotine is addictive.

725
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: When you are paid not to understand something, you'll get

726
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Speaker 4: really good and not understanding. And so when you're making

727
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Speaker 4: billions of dollars and having billions of impressions from young

728
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: people and rage and divisive content, you're going to find

729
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 4: reasons to not understand what's actually going on. We've had

730
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Speaker 4: forty congressional hearings on child safety and social media we've

731
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Speaker 4: had zero loss past. We have never had an industry

732
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Speaker 4: this big and this powerful that has no regulation at all.

733
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Speaker 4: There's more regulation in the mic you guys are speaking

734
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Speaker 4: into than all of social media if there was any.

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Speaker 4: Twenty four percent studiers came out. Two thirds of kids

736
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Speaker 4: are on Instagram. Twenty four percent of them technically qualify

737
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Speaker 4: as addicted. What substance or content would we like twenty

738
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Speaker 4: four percent of our youth be addicted to and not

739
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Speaker 4: move in And they weaponize. They go they're very smart.

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Speaker 4: They go on meeting and say we're open to regulation,

741
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Speaker 4: and I have children. First off, most of them don't

742
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Speaker 4: let their children have smartphones. And two, they have an

743
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Speaker 4: army of lawyers getting in the way of any regulation.

744
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: Amazon has more full time lobbyists living in DC than

745
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: there are sitting US senators. And it's happening again with AI.

746
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Speaker 5: We hear the hush tones of Sam Altman. He's very

747
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 5: concerned about AI and it's potential problems, and then he

748
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Speaker 5: deploys an army of lobbyists to make sure there's no regulation.

749
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Speaker 4: So these guys are doing their job, and it's mostly guys.

750
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Speaker 4: They're making money, and that's an important part of the

751
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: capitalist economy so we can have taxes and pay for

752
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: our navy and pay for food Stamp. They are doing

753
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 4: their job, We're not doing ours. In every other industry.

754
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: We have elected people who are supposed to prevent a

755
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: tragedy the Commons and pass laws. There's no reason any

756
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Speaker 4: kid should be on social media under the age of sixteen,

757
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Speaker 4: and we ask them to self regulate an age gate.

758
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 4: We hoping Tim Cook wakes up and decides he should

759
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: not let anyone have an iPhone until they're sixteen. It's

760
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Speaker 4: not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: We need laws. Do you think it's because I'm sorry,

762
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Speaker 1: rupt do you think it's because of the age of

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Speaker 1: of of Congress? Would a younger I mean, I know,

764
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Speaker 1: I know this. I don't know this is going to

765
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Speaker 1: happen because they all seem to be skewed, so so old.

766
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Speaker 1: But they never whenever I watch those hearings, they never

767
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Speaker 1: seem to know what.

768
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Speaker 2: The physical is, no clue of what's going on.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of that that senator back in the day.

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Speaker 1: He was like, the Internet is a series of tubes

771
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: and trying to describe the Internet, and I wonder, do

772
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Speaker 1: you do you think that would help if I mean,

773
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: are they just clueless or are they paid off?

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, no doubt, no doubt of the average no doubt.

775
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: The average age of Americans is thirty eight. The average

776
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: age of our elected representatives is sixty two. Are our

777
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Speaker 4: top leaders are across between the whing dead and the

778
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 4: golden girls? I mean, think about this. Are the Speaker

779
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: of the House, who's an incredibly impressive woman. When she

780
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 4: had a first kid, Castro had just declared martial law

781
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: and two thirds of households did not have color TVs.

782
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Speaker 4: But she's supposed to understand the challenges facing a single

783
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: mother in her twenties. She's supposed to understand a young

784
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: man who's addicted to gambling and now trading crypto on coinbase.

785
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: So I'm not suggesting we can't benefit from older politicians,

786
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: but for God's sakes, it's like, you know, we need

787
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Speaker 4: more youth.

788
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Speaker 2: But not crazy youth either though, because somebody's youth.

789
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Speaker 3: The youthful politicians get in there and they're so fucking

790
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: far on one side or so fucking far on the

791
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Speaker 3: other side that they're that they're uh that their ideas

792
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Speaker 3: and their policies.

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Speaker 2: As an adult, I can't allow.

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Speaker 1: Those are the loud ones I think getting getting the

795
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Speaker 1: most attention because they've marshaled these these social media devices,

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Speaker 1: like he's saying, rage bait. They know, they know how

797
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: to get the attention. Whereas there is there is a

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00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: world out there where there's some you know, centered centrist

799
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Speaker 1: young politicians who could help, you know, maybe make Congress.

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Speaker 1: Not the Golden Girls.

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Speaker 4: Well, you have the squad, and then you have Marjorie

802
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: Taylor Green and I forget the name. Who's the wrestler, right,

803
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 4: Matt Gate, Matt Gate, not mad He's not a wrestler.

804
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 4: That guy's that guy's that guy's beer battered, he's not

805
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: in good shape. But what we have is, because of

806
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: jerrymandering and because of money, we no longer on politicians

807
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 4: or lawmakers. We have performers. And that is if Marjorie

808
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: Taylor Green goes on and says that it's Jewish space

809
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: lasers or or that, or that these people are acting

810
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 4: like you know, Jew's not. I mean, she says to

811
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Speaker 4: us some seniory things. But TikTok takes it and loves it.

812
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: And there's there's an element of the far right that

813
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Speaker 4: likes that likes her calling out the other side. They're

814
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Speaker 4: not there. They don't want lawmaking. They want someone to

815
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: tickle their censors and make them feel good about making

816
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: the other side look really bad, and they go on

817
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Speaker 4: TikTok and then they raise a lot of money through

818
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Speaker 4: small dollar donations, and then they get re elected. And

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Speaker 4: most of these folks have never passed you know, many

820
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Speaker 4: of them have never passed a goddamn law. They don't.

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Speaker 1: They allowed me pro wrestling. It's like you remember when

822
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Speaker 1: the remember of the pro wrestlers used to do the

823
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Speaker 1: interview before the match and they're like, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Mongster and I'm gonna put you in a show cold

825
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Speaker 3: with these pythons.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's kind of like what I see. Those those

827
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Speaker 1: all those all those extreme politicians on both sides who

828
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Speaker 1: try to get the most attention. It's like they say

829
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Speaker 1: outrageous things to like you say, get small dollar donations

830
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Speaker 1: and can't be defeated. Right.

831
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like there's jerry mandering. I mean, here's the thing.

832
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Speaker 4: We now have minority rule. The majority of Americans believe

833
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Speaker 4: in bodily autonomy. The majority of Americans believe in some

834
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: sort of gun control, but twenty percent of our population

835
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Speaker 4: as eighty percent of our senators. And because politicians like

836
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Speaker 4: to be reelected, they've gone through and redrawn the maps

837
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: and they've turned everything hard blue or hard right. So

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Speaker 4: the general election means nothing. It's all about the primary.

839
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Speaker 4: So when the general election is the Republican or the

840
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 4: Democratic primary, depending on whether your dictritus hard blue or

841
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 4: hard read, all we're doing is sending fucking crazies from

842
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 4: the left and the right because the primary is all

843
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 4: about who can be more conservative, who can be more progressive,

844
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Speaker 4: And there's no way for moderates to get elected, So

845
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 4: we just don't have a representative electorate.

846
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: The majority of people are somewhere in the middle. The

848
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Speaker 4: majority of people are like, okay, bodily autonomy, Yeah, people

849
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: need access to family planning. Does that mean you should

850
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 4: be able to have an abortion in your third trimester?

851
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: Maybe not? Okay, but that doesn't happen. But let's have

852
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 4: a conversation about.

853
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: It should be.

854
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 4: I mean, most people can come to some sort of consensus.

855
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: Should you have the right to bear arms? Yeah, but

856
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: should you be able to pass a mental health check?

857
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: Should you have a registration? Should you be occasionally visit

858
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Speaker 4: by a local official. I mean in England there was

859
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Speaker 4: a mass shooting and I think it was done Blane seventeen.

860
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: Just awful, right, and within a week the MPs passed

861
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: legislation to a band assault rifles. The same thing happened

862
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 4: in a mass shooting after mass shooting in Australia. Seems

863
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: pretty reasonable, and since then there's been no mass shootings.

864
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Speaker 4: It's like, we claim that we have this unique problem

865
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Speaker 4: that's unsolvable and the only country that has it. I'm

866
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Speaker 4: living in London and one of the things I love

867
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Speaker 4: about living there free gift with purchase, bodily autonomy, trans

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Speaker 4: rites guns, right, They're not even conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's just a way of life.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's just okay, should trans issues dominate the

871
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: political discourse? Do people have to have third bathrooms in

872
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 4: every organization? No, we're not going to let it dictate

873
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 4: our politics. But at the same time, leaving the fuck alone, like, okay,

874
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: why do you need We're not going to demonize them,

875
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: just leave them alone. There's just things have gotten so

876
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 4: I think the biggest threat in America, I'm really going

877
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 4: on script now, it's not income inequality, it's not climate change,

878
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: it's extremism, and that is the people we send to

879
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: make our laws generally can't stand each other, and their

880
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: worldview is not an American view where we want to

881
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 4: get along and come together. It's representing a fringe that

882
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: is totally out of touch with the rest of America

883
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: and just is quote unquote principled but not pragmatic. And

884
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 4: as a result, this is the least productive Congress we've

885
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: had in history. There are no laws, we can't even

886
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: pass a budget. The only thing they come together on

887
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: is the far left and the far right will come

888
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: together for reckless spending. You want more defense spending, and

889
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: we want to cut taxes. You want more social serious services.

890
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 4: I know, let's just run up young people's credit card

891
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: and spend seven trillion dollars in five trillion bipartisan reckless spending.

892
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: Whenever the far left and the far right agree on something,

893
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 4: you know, it's a really shitty idea, and they do

894
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 4: come together around stuff. But the polarization of our society,

895
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: largely driven by our rage people have been totally forgotten,

896
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 4: left behind, the jerrymandering, money and politics, and then social

897
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: media that rewards that polarization. There really isn't you know,

898
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: go on, go on someone's Twitter feed and say that's

899
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: a thoughtful comment. I need to think this through. That

900
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: doesn't get a lot of likes. No, that's not it's

901
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 4: it's amazing, it's amazing.

902
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: It's you know, I went on I'm off Twitter now

903
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: just because I just can't believe that is rage.

904
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 2: That is rage, rage, range cage rage.

905
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: It's it's just crazy. It's like it's like a steel

906
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: cage match. But it is funny every once in a

907
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: while to lurk and see exactly what you're saying there.

908
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: It's an it's like who can out snark anyone? If

909
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: you do happen to stumble across a picture of like

910
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: look at this beautiful flower, people are like, you know

911
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: that that particular breed of a strain of flower is

912
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: ruining this bugs existence and it should be. I mean,

913
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: you can't find it's just a steel cage match at

914
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: all times. I mean Twitter has become like the most

915
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: i mean extreme version of that in my.

916
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 4: Perfect Yeah, I'm off of it. Yeah, I got off

917
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: of it long ago.

918
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: I don't even have an for it anymore.

919
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: Technically, when you become, you become, you become where you

920
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 4: spend your time, and I noticed I was becoming terse,

921
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 4: looking for opportunities to make people look stupid.

922
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: I like Twitter.

923
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 4: I would wait till someone said something indelicate or in

924
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: our full and way in and I got my guardians

925
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 4: at gotcha pin right, and I got to I got

926
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: to see the moral high ground because I was right.

927
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: And what you said was stupid.

928
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 4: And then I realized I am becoming an asshole, and

929
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 4: I just got off of it and said, I don't

930
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: need to be in everybody's up, in everyone's grill and

931
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 4: saying provocative things just to get more likes. And and

932
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: I'm naturally I struggle with anger and depression, and I'm like,

933
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: I've found too many people like me on.

934
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: Twitter, and I thought, agreed, That's why I got off

935
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: of it too.

936
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 4: This is not the gang I need to be a

937
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: part of. Right, So I'm off that. I don't like

938
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 4: the way the owner acquits himself, but you have to.

939
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: But like you said, I can modulate it. I don't

940
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 4: know if my fourteen and seventeen year olds can modulate.

941
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 4: When we look back on this time, Donald and Zach,

942
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 4: we're gonna regret what we did. We're regret the weaponization

943
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 4: of our elections. We're gonna regret the coursening of our discourse.

944
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: We're gonna regret the income inequality. But more than anything,

945
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 4: we're going to go, how did we let this happen

946
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: to our kids? That'll be our biggest regret.

947
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: Let's take a break.

948
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. There's a

949
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: parent's plenty of parents listening. Can you just give them

950
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 1: advice on that? I know somebody, especially parents you haven't

951
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: don't don't yet have kids addicted to it? Who are who?

952
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: It would be hard if you've got young children, is

953
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: your advice to keep them off social media till they're sixteen?

954
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: Well, first, I just want to acknowledge that anyone who

955
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 4: says it's a parenting problem doesn't have kids, because you know,

956
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: I wrote, I've written books on big tech. I speak

957
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 4: a lot about it, supposely knowledgeable about it. My son

958
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: struggled with the vice addiction. Hands down the number one

959
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: source of tension and anxiety in my household. And this

960
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 4: is somewhat of a story of privilege. Is that damn phone.

961
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 4: It is fifty percent of the arguments between my kids

962
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: and me, between my wife and me, are about that

963
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 4: fucking phone and its relationship with our kids. And the

964
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: problem is the collective problem, and that is, if you

965
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 4: don't ban it for all sixteen year olds, your kid's

966
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: going to be more depressed. And there's research on this

967
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 4: because he or she will be ostracized from their friends

968
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 4: because this is how they communicate, this is how they

969
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 4: get their homework. So unless we have collective action where

970
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 4: schools banned phones and social media's outlawed for people under

971
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: the age of sixteen, I think the best you can

972
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 4: do is modulate it. There are parental tools that the

973
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 4: platforms make purposely exceptionally tofficult because they don't want you

974
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: to use them. They want to pretend to have them.

975
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: They want to say we have them.

976
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Go on.

977
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 4: Unless you have a master's and computer science from MIT

978
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: and you know ux design, can you actually figure out

979
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 4: how to use these things? But there are tricks. If

980
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: you put all your kids on the same phone plan,

981
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 4: you can shut off there they're wireless. Like when I

982
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: really want to go gangster, I shut off their wireless

983
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 4: from their phone, and all of a sudden they become very,

984
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 4: very they become wonderful children until I turn.

985
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: It back exactly that's the best. It's the best.

986
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: Well, look when we and I find myself bartering and

987
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: negotiating with my kids over it, and it's the worst

988
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 3: thing ever. Like, you're absolutely right, you know, maybe there

989
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 3: is something in this I like, you know, to collect

990
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 3: data for myself, because everything that you said just.

991
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: Now, Scott is absolutely true.

992
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: My wife and I argue about we don't argue about

993
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: shit that other I mean the ship that they argue

994
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: about in the movies. We argue about the phone and

995
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 3: what it's doing to our kid. And my argument is, well,

996
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: let's just take it away. And then she's like, but

997
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: they're our friends and all they're so and it just

998
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: goes and you talk in circles about it too, because

999
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: you hear the other person's argument in the situation and

1000
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: you agree with a lot of it, but some of

1001
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: that shit doesn't necessarily apply to your kid, Like there's

1002
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: just it's just it's it's it's a it's a it's.

1003
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: The worst thing.

1004
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: I feel personally, the worst thing that ever existed created

1005
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: was the Internet. And when I look at it, it's

1006
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: great for information for me and it's great to find

1007
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: the information, but all it's doing is make it to me,

1008
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: it's making my kid not necessarily smarter. My kids don't

1009
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: necessarily have normal conversations anymore. They talk like the fucking

1010
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: characters in their uh in their on their screen. And

1011
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 3: it's like I can't take them off of it because

1012
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: I'm addicted to it as well, you know what I mean.

1013
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: And so it's like, who am I to take it

1014
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 3: from you? It's just and it's a circular conversation that

1015
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: consistently goes like this, and I fuck, I can't stand it.

1016
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: It's the worst.

1017
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: It's the worst feeling to think I'm failing my child

1018
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 3: because because of what I've because of something I've done,

1019
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: and I can't control what I did because I need

1020
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: it too.

1021
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: Well.

1022
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: There's so I do believe that if we had a

1023
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: red button to push. Do you remember that that Twilight sound?

1024
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 4: They did a remake of it in the nineties where

1025
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: this family was the guy who was in a great

1026
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 4: movie called May Not Express. He shows up and him

1027
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 4: and his wife was straggling with money, and this guy

1028
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 4: shows him and says, if you press this button, someone

1029
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 4: you'll never know or never meet will die and you

1030
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 4: get ten thousand bucks. And then at the end of

1031
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 4: that they press it, they get the ten thousand bucks.

1032
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 4: The guy shows up and takes the box and says,

1033
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 4: where are you taking the box, and said, we're going

1034
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: to deliver to someone you'll never know, and we'll never

1035
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 4: know you. And if you had that red button and

1036
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 4: you could press and all of the Internet would go away,

1037
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 4: I don't think we'd press it. I think that we're

1038
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 4: net gainers on the whole from technology.

1039
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: Now.

1040
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 4: The problem is with the word net. We're net in

1041
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 4: my belief, in my view, we're net gainers from fossil fuels,

1042
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: but we still have emission standards. We're net. We're net

1043
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: gainers from pesticides, but we still have an FDA. We're net.

1044
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: Social media there's a lot of good on it. TikTok

1045
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 4: has a lot interesting videos. Email my phone.

1046
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: Kids there you go.

1047
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: The kids who work for me at Propercy Media. They're

1048
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: warriors with better weapons than I ever had. They're more productive,

1049
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 4: they're making more money, they're growing the economy. These things

1050
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: create shareholder wealth, they create great jobs.

1051
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 5: You know, I.

1052
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: My son is raising money on TikTok and learning AI

1053
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 4: so we can go to you know, go to Rwanda

1054
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 4: and build a school. There's some amazing on a net basis.

1055
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 4: We're beneficiaries and big tech, but that doesn't mean we

1056
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 4: shouldn't regulate it. That doesn't mean we should say, Okay,

1057
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 4: if you're spreading misinformation and you know you're spreading misinformation

1058
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 4: or disinformation, and kids start killing themselves because your algorithm

1059
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: will since they're having suicidal ideation, and start sending them

1060
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 4: emails saying here's some images on suicide.

1061
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: You might like.

1062
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 4: There should be a world of hurt for those executives.

1063
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 4: Somebody needs to show up in an orange jumpsuit. So

1064
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 4: I would argue we're net gainers, but we have to

1065
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 4: have some regulation, and we have to have thoughtful, younger

1066
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: people who understand this technology making laws, but waiting for

1067
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 4: their better And this comes back to your questions, Ach,

1068
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: waiting for the better angels of Mark Zuckerberg to show up.

1069
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 4: Don't hold your breath. These people are doing their job.

1070
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: We're not doing ours, and that is to elect people

1071
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 4: who will prevent a tragedy of commons and think long term,

1072
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: understand these technologies, and create laws that make us make

1073
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 4: it easier for us as parents and as citizens.

1074
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: I want to ask this question.

1075
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 3: It moved me when I heard you say it, because

1076
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 3: all it did was make me think about my wife

1077
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 3: and how wonderful she is and how supportive she is

1078
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: of my career. And then when the highs are up there,

1079
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: oh my god, it feels so good to be able

1080
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: to share that with her. But you said something about

1081
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: how the most important decision we make in our lives

1082
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: is who we choose to have as a spouse is

1083
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 3: because you know, you experience, you experience something together and

1084
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: the feel of love, and you know, even the feel

1085
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: of sorrow if you have somebody there to support you,

1086
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 3: or you can support somebody. There's that dopamine that you

1087
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 3: were talking about earlier, you know what I mean. Can

1088
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 3: you just comment on that, please, because it's something that's

1089
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: so fucking amazing. I think a lot of people need

1090
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: to hear this.

1091
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, but let me start off by saying, I don't

1092
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 4: think you have to have a romantic relationship for Mary.

1093
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: To be happy.

1094
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people who are very happy

1095
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 4: without that. They find other places to give and receive love,

1096
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: especially women, men, men without romantic partnership. I have a

1097
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: really tough time now having said that the context I

1098
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 4: was saying that in was economically. The majority of wealthy

1099
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 4: people have built their wealth with a partner, and because

1100
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: the team is just so powerful, both in terms of

1101
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 4: your ability to share expenses, be supportive of each other,

1102
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 4: be a trusted advisor. And you know, I didn't want

1103
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 4: to get married, I didn't want to have kids. I

1104
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 4: loved living in New York, having a little bit of

1105
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: economic security. I just like, I'm like, why would I

1106
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 4: ever give this? I'm going to ride this whole single

1107
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: dude with the perception of wealth thing out. I was

1108
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: really enjoying it, and.

1109
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm still riding it.

1110
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 4: Part You're still there, Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, if

1111
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 4: I could just be for one week and a month.

1112
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: And it'll be great.

1113
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 4: So, but on the whole, on the whole, if you

1114
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 4: look at happiness, the majority of happy, really happy people

1115
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 4: are in something resembling a monogamous, committed relationship. Now what

1116
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 4: I have I see across my friends. I have friends

1117
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 4: who are hugely successful across all dimensions, but they don't

1118
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 4: have a partnership with their partner, and there's just a

1119
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: level of anxiety and stress in everything in their life.

1120
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 4: And then I have other friends who are you know,

1121
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 4: they do fine, that they're not what you call ballers

1122
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 4: or from an experior perspective, that's successful. But everything burns

1123
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 4: a little brighter because they have a great partner, the

1124
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: most important decision to make, and unfortunately, a lot of

1125
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 4: times it's out of your control because who they evolve

1126
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 4: into and how If you want to be economically successful

1127
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 4: and happy, you're going to have to bring generosity and

1128
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: forgiveness to a relationship, and you're going to also have

1129
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 4: to put away to score a card and just decide

1130
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 4: what kind of friend, what kind of sun, what kind

1131
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: of husband do I want to be? Because you will

1132
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 4: always inflate your own contribution to the relationship and diminish theirs,

1133
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: and you end up when you keep score, you end

1134
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: up upset and angry and end up injecting bullshit into

1135
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 4: the relationship where it doesn't belong. But if you can

1136
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 4: figure out a way to find a competent, loving partner

1137
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 4: that you're attracted to and then really go all in

1138
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 4: on it, just everything. You know, I love having kids,

1139
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 4: but what's profound about it is raising kids with someone

1140
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 4: you know I care about, I love. I've made a

1141
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 4: lot of money, it's hugely rewarding, you know, what was

1142
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 4: more rewarding it It was it was building economic security

1143
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 4: with a partner. It was high fiving each other. Fuck,

1144
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 4: we can buy a house. Oh my god, do you

1145
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 4: realize how much this hotel room is costing us? Isn't

1146
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 4: this awesome? We built this ship together. That's like, that

1147
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 4: is so rewarding, Zach. It sounds like you will never

1148
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 4: understand that reward.

1149
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: But I'm trying listen. I'm sitting here listening to you.

1150
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: Fuck you, I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here listening, nodding,

1151
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: going yeah, yeah, I want that. I want that. I

1152
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: want that.

1153
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 4: It's a curse of good hair, a deep voice, and

1154
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 4: a little bit of fame. Yeah, you got your Your

1155
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 4: question isn't who to partner with, it's who not to

1156
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 4: partner with?

1157
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:57,479
Speaker 3: This weekend ladies, hello, can you talk about You talked

1158
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: about a number and the age you were when you

1159
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 3: with you know, your number was a million, and then

1160
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 3: it turned to ten million.

1161
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: Then it turned into can you can you explain that also?

1162
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: Because that's something also I'm trying to.

1163
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna get a third question to Jesus Christ.

1164
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: We got them on the show, we might as well

1165
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: ask I don't know. Okay.

1166
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: The third question is, so I agree, I feel like

1167
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm never going to make money just being.

1168
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: A worker at one thing. The way to expand is

1169
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: to be an owner in some way?

1170
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: Right?

1171
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: What are ways for people out there who can't understand that?

1172
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: What is a what is a in Layman's term? Can

1173
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 3: you just explain that to people?

1174
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: And what you said?

1175
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: I think, yes, I help you. I think what you're

1176
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: saying is, you know, one of the things that we

1177
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: both commented, we said, is the difference what you articulated,

1178
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: articulated in Layman's terms, the difference between just being someone

1179
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: who's chronically just a worker getting a check and actually

1180
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: having a chance to earn real wealth, not just a paycheck.

1181
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 4: Look, I think America becomes more like itself every day,

1182
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 4: and that is it's a loving, generous place if you

1183
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 4: have money. It's a rapacious, violent place if you don't.

1184
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about what America is or what America

1185
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 4: should be. I'm talking about what America is. It's especially

1186
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: important for men, and because women are disproportionally evaluated on

1187
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 4: their looks, it's totally unfair men are disproportionally evaluated on

1188
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 4: their economic viability, which is also unfair, but that's the reality.

1189
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 4: If you're a young man, you need to have a

1190
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: plan for economic security. And by the way, women are

1191
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 4: doing a better job of that plan, and it's wonderful

1192
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 4: and we shouldn't do anything to get in the way

1193
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 4: of it. But too many young men don't have a

1194
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 4: plan for how they're going to be economically viable. And

1195
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: one of the things I'm in my book, I go

1196
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 4: through how to develop a plan, how to think about it,

1197
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 4: the behaviors and the strategies. But I liked having a

1198
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 4: number because I say, Okay, a million dollar sounds like

1199
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 4: a lot of money, but if I can save five

1200
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: percent of my salary, by the way, automated savings get

1201
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 4: it out of your hands, taken out of your check.

1202
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 4: Ninety nine percent of us will spend all of our

1203
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: money that comes to our hands because the smartest, most

1204
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 4: deepest resourced people in the world are going to serve

1205
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 4: you with opportunities two hundred times a day to upgrade

1206
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 4: from economy to economy comfort. And why wouldn't you stay

1207
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 4: at Lost Fontanas for the girl's weekend? And why, oh wait,

1208
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 4: would you like to add flowerless chocolate cake? To your

1209
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 4: order from Baltasar. You will get hit with opportunities every

1210
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 4: day to spend everything. But if you save three to

1211
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 4: five percent of your salary from the age of twenty two,

1212
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 4: you're going to be a millionaire by the time you're

1213
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 4: my age. And then even if it's you're in your

1214
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 4: thirties and you haven't done that, if you can save

1215
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 4: five to ten percent, you're going to be a millionaire.

1216
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 4: So you want to You need a plan for economic

1217
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: security rather than just hoping you're going to go double

1218
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 4: platinum and start a big podcast or get a movie deal.

1219
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 4: You need a plan in case you don't hit it big.

1220
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: And so the answers I know how to get you rich.

1221
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 4: The bad news is the answer is slowly with a

1222
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 4: certain amount of discipline. I always had a number because

1223
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 4: I grew up. I was raised by a single immigrant

1224
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 4: mother who lived and died a secretary. My household income

1225
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 4: was never over forty thousand dollars. I was like one

1226
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 4: of three or four guys in my fraternity, and everyone

1227
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 4: knew us. They didn't have any money. And every summer,

1228
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: if I didn't make three thousand making save three thousand bucks,

1229
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 4: I wasn't re enrolling at UCLA, and a lot of

1230
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 4: good came from that, from grit. But when I started

1231
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 4: my career, I didn't want to be a better person.

1232
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 4: I didn't want to change the world. I wanted fucking money,

1233
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: a lot of it. And I noticed that I had

1234
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 4: some very shocking and roundling things happened to me. My

1235
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 4: mom got terminally sick and I couldn't take care of

1236
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 4: her to the extent I wanted. It was humiliating and emasculating,

1237
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 4: and so from a very early age, I was really

1238
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 4: economically focused and I thought, if I could get a

1239
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 4: million dollars to'd be fine. Then I got to a

1240
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 4: million dollars and I lived in New York. I'm like

1241
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: a million dollars. I can't live in New York with

1242
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 4: a couple of kids on a million, I mean. So

1243
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 4: I went to ten million, and then I went bigger

1244
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 4: than that, and I'm very open about my finances. I

1245
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 4: passed one hundred million seven years ago. I'm hugely privileged,

1246
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 4: hugely lucky, and by the way, I'm not humble. I'm

1247
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: a fucking monster. I'm ridiculously talented and ridiculously hard working.

1248
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 4: But I also got really lucky and appreciate the fact

1249
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 4: that for the majority of my life, all prosperity was

1250
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 4: crammed into this corner called white straight males. So I

1251
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 4: appreciate that I nod to it, and I'm trying to

1252
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 4: make sure that the drawbridge is down for other people.

1253
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 4: But personally, once I got to that number, or seven

1254
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 4: years ago, when I sold my last company, I'm like,

1255
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go raise more money and start a private

1256
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 4: equity fund because Scott Galloway billionaire just has a nice

1257
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 4: ring to it. I thought, I want to be a billionaire.

1258
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 4: That shit's going to be sexy. That shit is going

1259
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 4: to be sexy. And then I thought, okay, and then

1260
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 4: I had a close friend pass away, and I'm like,

1261
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 4: what do I really want in life? I want a

1262
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 4: series of amazing experiences that make me feel closer to

1263
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 4: the people I have relationships with. And I thought, do

1264
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 4: I have enough money to do that? And the answer

1265
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 4: is yes. And I thought, well, why am I going

1266
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 4: to get back on this hamster wheel. I've been my

1267
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 4: whole life trying to make more money at any cost,

1268
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 4: And now what I do is the following. I have

1269
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 4: my number, I sit down with my wealth managers at

1270
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 4: the end of the year, they tell me what my

1271
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 4: wealth is and what I made that year. If it's

1272
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 4: above that number, I either spend it. I love spending money.

1273
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 4: I'm spending money like a gangster in the fifties diagnosed

1274
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 4: with as cancer. I love spending money, and I'm really

1275
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 4: really good at it. And I think there's some nobility

1276
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 4: to go to ice restaurants, go to an ice restaurants,

1277
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 4: tip large, fly your friends to Aspen. It's a capitalist society.

1278
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 4: It is so much money to spend money and spend

1279
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 4: it well, and then anything above that I give away

1280
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,959
Speaker 4: because it makes me feel masculine, It makes me feel

1281
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 4: like a baller. It makes me feel very American, and

1282
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 4: that is so rewarding because I tell you I could

1283
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 4: very easily be out of private equity firm right now,

1284
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: aiming for the billionaires club, taking huge risks, having a

1285
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 4: more strained relationship with my spouse and my kids, trying

1286
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: to get to a number that makes absolutely going no

1287
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 4: goddamn difference in the reality is and all the studies.

1288
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 4: I'm happy to show this above a level where you

1289
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 4: get economic security, can afford a nice home, take nice vacations,

1290
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: manage a health crisis, get your kids into good schools.

1291
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 4: And by the way, that's a shit ton of money.

1292
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 4: But once you get to that point, anything above that

1293
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 4: provides almost no incremental happiness. Money can value happiness. Middle

1294
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 4: class homes are happier than lower class. Upper income homes

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Speaker 4: are happier the middle. But billionaires are no happier than millionaires.

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Speaker 4: They're no less happy. That's also a myth, but they're

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Speaker 4: no happier. So why, once you get to a place

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Speaker 4: of economic security, wouldn't you just enjoy the shit out

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Speaker 4: of spending it, deepen your relationships and start giving it away.

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Speaker 4: It is so rewarding. And it was one of the

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Speaker 4: other than other than finding my partner and deciding to

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Speaker 4: have kids, which I didn't want to do. I didn't decide,

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Speaker 4: she decided. But other than that, my approach to money

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Speaker 4: the last few years. And this is a problem of privilege.

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Speaker 4: I want to acknowledge that. But getting off the hamster wheel,

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Speaker 4: recognizing money as the ink in your pen, write different stories,

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Speaker 4: make stories burn brighter, but it's not. Your story is

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Speaker 4: so rewarding. But for me it was having a number,

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Speaker 4: and not only was it aspirational, but it told me

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Speaker 4: when to stop and flip to being more generous and

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Speaker 4: more focused on my relationship and experiences, because I would

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Speaker 4: still be on that wheel trying to get to be

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Speaker 4: in front of my name.

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, listen, I've done very well for myself

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Speaker 3: and I'm very very, very very happy with where I'm at.

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Speaker 3: I always feel like I could use a little bit more, though,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't know if I had.

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Speaker 3: I haven't reached your number yet, but.

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Speaker 2: Yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I enjoy my kids.

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Speaker 3: I enjoy the One of the best feelings in my

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Speaker 3: life was recently buying a house after losing pretty much

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Speaker 3: all the money I made while making Scrubs due to

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Speaker 3: bad investments and poor business decisions, whether it be manager

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Speaker 3: or myself. I thought at one point I'll never buy

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Speaker 3: a house again.

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Speaker 2: And you're right.

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Speaker 3: It does feel a mask. It feels like somebody cut

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01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 3: my dick off. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: But the day I said to my wife we can

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Speaker 2: buy this house, it felt so rewarding. And you're right.

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Speaker 2: The high five was so hard.

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Speaker 3: The sex was so good that night because we were

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Speaker 3: able to because she was in the struggle with it.

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Speaker 4: It was a good view, Zach.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. Was I was only I was only

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Speaker 1: allowed to watch from the corner, But I bet I

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Speaker 1: did ejaculate the go.

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Speaker 2: That's too much, that's too much.

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Speaker 4: Here's a heurologist on TV. You can say that.

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Speaker 2: But that that absolutely right, professor g.

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Speaker 1: That was We got to let the professor go. We've

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Speaker 1: had him for an hour. But the latest book is

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Speaker 1: The Algebra of Wealth, a simple formula for financial security.

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Speaker 1: And you also have a couple of podcasts.

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Speaker 4: You want to mention those, Scott, Yeah, to resist his

1349
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 4: feudal I'm everywhere, Zach. I'm like aol in the nineties.

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 4: You stick your hand in a cereal box, You're gonna

1351
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 4: pull me out?

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01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: Did you just go bored with us?

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01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 4: Just now?

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Speaker 2: Persistance is futile? Is that what you just said?

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Speaker 4: That's right?

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01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: Soon I'm there. So what are you?

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Speaker 5: You have?

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Speaker 4: Two pot cropey pivot. I just launched a political podcast

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Speaker 4: with Jessica Tarlov. She's a lone Democrat on the show

1360
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 4: The Five on Fox. And I write books. I have

1361
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 4: a newsletter called Numerous Nomalice. So yeah, I just type in.

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Speaker 1: My last thing I want to say about you is

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Speaker 1: if you if you're listening, and you only have twenty minutes.

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01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: Watch Scott Galloway's Ted Talks. Thanks, it's it's pretty incredible

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01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: and I love that. I love so many people that

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Speaker 1: do Ted Talks. You can tell they're nervous because it

1367
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: is nerve wracking. You just look like you're the most baller,

1368
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: badass guy. You're like, look, I'm twenty minutes, so I'm

1369
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Speaker 1: diving right in. I got one hundred slides, let's go.

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Speaker 1: And I really enjoy I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: And you were fooled. I felt like I was going

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Speaker 4: to throw up. I was hugely nervous, but thank you.

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Speaker 1: Well you held it. You held it together. Man. You know,

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Speaker 1: for those that don't know, you don't have teleprompters Ted Talk,

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Speaker 1: you do it, or you do it right, or you

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01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: fuck up. And I thought you were amazing.

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Speaker 4: Thanks brother, appreciate it. Congrats on both your success and

1378
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 4: well done guys. Thank you man, Thanks everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 1: Wow, he's so smart, yo. I just want to listen

1382
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 1: to him talk all day long.

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01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: How did we do this? How did we get him

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Speaker 2: on the show?

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Speaker 1: I asked a long time ago, and I know just

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01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: from seeing him on very very very popular podcast that

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Speaker 1: that he's very hard to get. So I asked you

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: well to like try hard, and then she got.

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Speaker 3: It was amazing, man, And I hope you guys out

1390
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Speaker 3: there learned something today, or at least we're able to

1391
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 3: opened your mind up a little bit, like because you know,

1392
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 3: it's rare that we at Fake Doctor's real friends have

1393
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Speaker 3: people like this on our show.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It was that was he

1395
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Speaker 2: was amazing, Daniel.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? What do you think? Daniel?

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Speaker 7: I think is a very smart guy, you know, I

1398
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 7: think his takes her you know, is I think it's

1399
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Speaker 7: just a very good, honest look at the world, and

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Speaker 7: I think it's an important take. I also think it's

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 7: imbued with a little bit of humility about being, you know,

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01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 7: willing to change and being willing to look at the

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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 7: world and admit that some things are not as you

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01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 7: perceive them and also not as not as they used

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Speaker 7: to be. I think you spoke a lot about that

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Speaker 7: with how you know, Congress is full of people that

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Speaker 7: are old. We you know, we have these great phones that.

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Speaker 1: We all love.

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Speaker 7: We need laws around them and that is just normal.

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Speaker 7: And I thought that was that was something that I

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Speaker 7: really appreciated about what he was talking about.

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Speaker 1: I hope that one day that there's a younger Congress

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Speaker 1: that can get their head around that. It seems to

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Speaker 1: me that because of the average age of the people

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Speaker 1: in Congress, that it's not something they fully understand or

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Speaker 1: see why regulation is so necessary for for children.

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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not very astute when it comes to politics,

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Speaker 3: uh and laws being passed. But when was the last

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01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: time that that not the not the not the Supreme Court,

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01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 3: but Congress and the Senate past were able to agree

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Speaker 3: on a law.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was probably the last budget, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know they pass stuff outside. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: that that has to look up.

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Speaker 3: I do not know.

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01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what are they doing it?

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01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: What are they doing arguing? Are they just argue? They

1429
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: arguing then cock block kind of like you in veg Vegas.

1430
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Speaker 1: That was really interesting. Thank you, audience. I know this

1431
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: wasn't the funniest of our podcast, but I was super

1432
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: informative and I and I hope that you liked it.

1433
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Speaker 1: I again, check out his Ted talk. It's pretty impressive

1434
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: and he's so smart.

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Speaker 3: He has great ideas on accumulating wealth too, you know,

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Speaker 3: so just I mean that's something.

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Speaker 1: Not only does he have the algebra of wealth, but

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Speaker 1: there was one I think called the algebra of happiness. Yeah,

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: I read that one. I recommend that one too, the

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: Algebra of Happiness. The New York Times called him the

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern of the business world. He's a he's a

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01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: fascinating guy. All right, Donald, I love you.

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Speaker 2: I had such a great time this weekend. Man, Thank

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01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: you so much.

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01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad you came to Vegas. I thank you for

1446
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: saying yes, even though it was I just learned that

1447
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: it was that was.

1448
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: Thought would happen. You know how dark she gets, she goes,

1449
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: she goes real dark with it.

1450
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, I'm glad. I'm glad you came, even though

1451
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: it was out of fear of there being a scrubbs

1452
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: version with that all right.

1453
01:10:51,920 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: About show we made about a bunch of the way

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01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 2: next all should know.

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Speaker 4: So gadder round you here, up, gadder round you here, up,

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01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 4: scus we watch your wits and h