Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreeger is a production of the
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Speaker 1: another episode of the Season with Peter Schreger. We are
Speaker 1: recording this on Halloween Tuesday morning. It is trade deadline
Speaker 1: day as well, so we're not gonna get too much
Speaker 1: into potential transactions or transactions that might happen, because by
Speaker 1: the time you listen to this, it's gonna be already done.
Speaker 1: But if you listen to this podcast, you know it's
Speaker 1: been an ongoing couple weeks where I've been previewing and
Speaker 1: giving out a little bit of information about my Celebrity
Speaker 1: Jeopardy appearance. Now that it aired last Wednesday, the cat
Speaker 1: is out of the bag and I promise not to
Speaker 1: mention it every week for the rest of my life. However,
Speaker 1: my two beautiful producers slash executives on this podcast are
Speaker 1: both on with me now. Aaron Wankof's been the greatest
Speaker 1: producer in the game, and Jason English, who is in
Speaker 1: that studio every single week with us, is from the
Speaker 1: iHeart team. I wanted to open up the phones and
Speaker 1: open up the lines and allow you guys to more
Speaker 1: or less ask me anything you might have as questions,
Speaker 1: but also serve as a press conference of sorts. I
Speaker 1: will start with this though for the listener who has
Speaker 1: not watched the episode. It was myself, Mira, Sorvino, and
Speaker 1: Adam Rodriguez, who is an actor. We went down to
Speaker 1: the final Jeopardy question. Servino had a small edge on me.
Speaker 1: I bet just about everything and Sorvino bet everything and
Speaker 1: we both got it right and she won. I will
Speaker 1: give you some behind the music though now as I
Speaker 1: think it does pertain to some of your questions, and
Speaker 1: we'll get into all of it. If you watched, you
Speaker 1: might want to rewatch it so we can get to
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty depending on Aaron and Jason's questions. But
Speaker 1: here is the backstory of Final Jeopardy if you watched.
Speaker 1: So we go into the last couple questions and Servino
Speaker 1: got like a one thousand or a fifteen hundred dollar
Speaker 1: question and like a five hundred dollars question, so it's
Speaker 1: a big point swing of like two thousand dollars and
Speaker 1: she had, I want to say, like a thousand dollars
Speaker 1: lead on me going into it. It was you know,
Speaker 1: it might have been like nine thousand to eight thousand
Speaker 1: whatever it is. Now she had twelve thousand, so it
Speaker 1: was twelve thousand to like eleven hundred. So she was
Speaker 1: up by like a thousand on me. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: give me something because I was rolling, I was in
Speaker 1: the zone here. I'm like, give me a topic that
Speaker 1: I know I can bet it all for and I
Speaker 1: can get it right. The topic comes up and it's
Speaker 1: tween Lit. My heart sinks. Here's the process of how
Speaker 1: it works in real life, just as you see on TV.
Speaker 1: You get that final topic, they give you thirty seconds
Speaker 1: to write in your wager. So she's up a thousand
Speaker 1: on me. I'm like tween Lit. I'm like, like, they
Speaker 1: couldn't give me Arizona Cardinals wide receivers. They couldn't give
Speaker 1: me like nineteen eighties Van Damn movies. I would have
Speaker 1: been money with anything, anything US history. I would be
Speaker 1: good tween Lit as much as I'm a pop culture guy.
Speaker 1: It is a blind spot. And as I look over
Speaker 1: and I would like the Jeopardy producers to hear this,
Speaker 1: Mira Cervino has multiple teenage children sitting in the first
Speaker 1: row of the crowd, and she looks over to them,
Speaker 1: and I get like a thumbs up from them that
Speaker 1: they're encouraging her. I'm like, oh, so like any tween
Speaker 1: lit of the last ten years. She knows. So my
Speaker 1: brain starts scrambling and I'm not intimidated. But I'm also like,
Speaker 1: who wrote the Twilight books. I'm like, damn it, who
Speaker 1: wrote the Twilight books? I'm Abrams. I knew it. I
Speaker 1: was like, it's like Abrams that. I'm like, who wrote
Speaker 1: the Hunger Games? I didn't read any of these books.
Speaker 1: I've never read any of these books. I'm like, Hunger
Speaker 1: Games Collins, Suzanne Collins, this is just walking by a
Speaker 1: Hudson News every week for five years, going to two
Speaker 1: different NFL games, going to LA being delayed, walking through
Speaker 1: Hudson nudes. Then I'm like, all right, what the It's
Speaker 1: Edward and Richard or Edward and Charlie. Who are the
Speaker 1: two Vings?
Speaker 2: It's Edward and Jacob and it's Stephanie Meyers. It's Stephanie.
Speaker 1: Stephanie Abrams. Like the Georgia political like in the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party shows you how smart I am. I'm glad I
Speaker 1: didn't get local election politics either. Thanks for correcting me.
Speaker 1: I would have gotten that one all along. So Stephanie Abrams,
Speaker 1: we see, is that her name, Stephanie Abrams, the one
Speaker 1: down in Georgia? Can we look that up? Or is
Speaker 1: that wrong?
Speaker 3: Stacey?
Speaker 1: Stacey Abrams? Okay, what was the guy?
Speaker 2: Stephanie Abrams is a news actor meteorologist on the Weather Channel.
Speaker 1: There you go, yeah, shout out to Stephanie.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 4: Just like everyone asked me, who'd you go up against
Speaker 4: its celebrity Jeopardy, and I said, meet Lacunas for the
Speaker 4: first two weeks, and it was actually Mira Servino.
Speaker 1: Not great with names.
Speaker 4: I'm like me Lacunas. They're like, really, Mila Cunis. It
Speaker 4: was Mira Servino.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Serveno's got these kids, and I'm like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, so I just said I'll bet just about everything.
Speaker 1: I think. I bet seventy two hundred. I had eleven hundred.
Speaker 1: And I see her smiling, and I'm like, she knows this.
Speaker 1: So we get to it. The question is and I
Speaker 1: don't know if the word for word, but basically it
Speaker 1: was like this tween literature author later said she regretted
Speaker 1: not calling her famous book just Margaret as opposed to
Speaker 1: the long title, and I'm like, are you there, God, Margaret,
Speaker 1: that's probably wrong, but I'm like, that's Judy Bloom. I
Speaker 1: know Judy Bloom. I know Tales, what fourth grade? Nothing,
Speaker 1: I know super Fudge. I'm like, hell yeah, I go
Speaker 1: seventy two hundred dollars. I'm already in pop committed. Who
Speaker 1: is Judy Bloom? I have enough time where I could write,
Speaker 1: you know, hello, Melon Betty, my kids. I've always wanted
Speaker 1: to do that. I was on cloud nine here, but
Speaker 1: then I look over and Serveno Slash Kunis Slash whoever
Speaker 1: had already written her answer, and it's just like staring
Speaker 1: off into oblivion. I'm like, so then they come to
Speaker 1: me and it's like, all right, Peter, did you have
Speaker 1: you know the correct answer? I'm like, who is Judy Bloom? Hello,
Speaker 1: Melon Betty? And he's like, that is correct. Jennings by
Speaker 1: the way, a mensch loved this guy. He's like, that
Speaker 1: is correct, Peter, how much did you wager? Seventy two hundred?
Speaker 1: And you want to say hello to Melon Betty? And
Speaker 1: I said good night, guys, good night, Melon Betty, my
Speaker 1: two kids, and like that was cool, great, got that
Speaker 1: in now, I'm like a competitor in me. As much
Speaker 1: as I want everyone's charity to do well, and I
Speaker 1: want to, I want Servina to fall in her face.
Speaker 1: I want her to come out here and be like,
Speaker 1: who's another teen literature person? JK.
Speaker 5: Rowling?
Speaker 1: I wanted to see something. I want her to get something.
Speaker 1: She comes out and she's like, who is Judy Bloom?
Speaker 1: And she is right? And she bet it all so
Speaker 1: she was nervous about me, which I liked. She bet
Speaker 1: twelve two hundred. So I can go to sleep at
Speaker 1: night knowing I played a great game. I also can
Speaker 1: go to sleep knowing that even if I wagered all
Speaker 1: of mine eleven thousand, she still would have won because
Speaker 1: she met all of hers. In closing, Michael Davies, the
Speaker 1: executive producer who also works at Sony and has a
Speaker 1: million other shows, Watch What's Happening Live and Good Morning Football,
Speaker 1: all these things. He has put in this thing for
Speaker 1: Jeopardy Now where you can go online and look up
Speaker 1: the stats how many times you've buzzed right, how many
Speaker 1: times you got here was the backbreaker for me, if
Speaker 1: you noticed, and we'll get through it. The first first category,
Speaker 1: I didn't even get a buzzer in. I was in
Speaker 1: a two thousand dollars hole from Go where both Cervino
Speaker 1: and Rodriguez had the buzzer down. The buzzer will screw
Speaker 1: me up. I finally got the rhythm down, but I
Speaker 1: buzzed in on. I got nineteen questions right, Aaron Jason,
Speaker 1: I only got three questions wrong my entire jeopardy experience,
Speaker 1: nineteen right, re wrong. Two of them happened to be
Speaker 1: daily doubles, so I got burned on those where I
Speaker 1: got them wrong, and we can go through them the
Speaker 1: correct answers. I don't know if you asked me twenty
Speaker 1: times if I would have gotten either one of them.
Speaker 1: I have no regrets on those, but the one that
Speaker 1: really screwed me. There was some question about funguss at
Speaker 1: the end, and it says something with the internet and
Speaker 1: a web, and these guys both answer, and it was
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars and they both answer wrong. And if
Speaker 1: I had just stayed quiet and not guessed anything, I
Speaker 1: would have had a nice three thousand dollars swing. I
Speaker 1: probably would have wanted the final jeopardy with the most points.
Speaker 1: I probably would have won the entire thing because I
Speaker 1: got Final Jeopardy right, but there was this like like
Speaker 1: I'm feeling it. I was hot. I felt like Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan against Utah, like I'm like I can't miss right now,
Speaker 1: and this is like Cliff Robinson and the Blazers, and
Speaker 1: I'm just shrugging to the crowd because I'm so hot.
Speaker 1: I buzz in and I'm like, what is the dark web?
Speaker 3: And everything?
Speaker 2: It's a great answer.
Speaker 1: Every It was about fungus and a web, and everyone
Speaker 1: in the crowd like gasped because you know, on the
Speaker 1: dark web it's like porn and like child like disgusting things.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the dark web is, but
Speaker 1: I'm like the dark web and he's like, sorry, that's incorrect.
Speaker 1: The answer was wood wide web, which I don't know
Speaker 1: what that even is. I mean, this is Celebrity Jeopardy.
Speaker 1: We're domba, like, what are you doing with wood wide web?
Speaker 1: I got it wrong. It cost me fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: I was in a funk after that, and I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: if I didn't buzz in, I probably would have won
Speaker 1: Celebrity Jeopardy. I have no regrets. I did it so
Speaker 1: I got nineteen right, three wrong. Sorvino got like twenty
Speaker 1: six right and like seven wrong. So she was quicker
Speaker 1: on the buzzer. So if I had like twenty two
Speaker 1: that I even got a chance to answer. She had
Speaker 1: thirty three. She was quicker on the buzzer around like
Speaker 1: eleven of them. So I will take my hat and
Speaker 1: I will I will do hats off to mirror Servena.
Speaker 1: She kicked my ass in Jeopardy at the last second,
Speaker 1: and she did so by being better on the buzzer.
Speaker 1: She was a worthy opponent. I am proud of her.
Speaker 1: We have not said a word to each other since
Speaker 1: and watching it back, she had kind of a snide
Speaker 1: comment after I guessed who is Debbie Gibson, like she
Speaker 1: was surprised that I would know Debbie Gibson. Mira, please, well,
Speaker 1: you were starring in Oscar winning films. I was in
Speaker 1: my shag carpet den of a computer room down in
Speaker 1: free On, New Jersey, listening to not only Debbie Gibson,
Speaker 1: but to Tiffany, to Sina Easton, to Blinda Carlisle, to
Speaker 1: the Bengals. I go deep on pop music. That was
Speaker 1: my experience. We can ask all the questions. We got
Speaker 1: about five minutes until our guest comes on, So I'll
Speaker 1: start with you on a press conference. I will call
Speaker 1: on you guys, ask me anything. We'll start. We're gonna
Speaker 1: start with you, Aaron. What is your first question about
Speaker 1: the Jeopardy experience.
Speaker 2: So, mister Schrager, when the categories are shown and they're revealed,
Speaker 2: which was the one that a gave you the most
Speaker 2: anxiety and the one that be you were like, I got.
Speaker 1: This, okay, most anxiety was Nobel Prizes. Didn't know what
Speaker 1: we're talking about, the Peace Prize, didn't know if we're
Speaker 1: talking about like some scientists. And sure enough, one of
Speaker 1: the daily doubles was about the Nobel Prize for science
Speaker 1: or something, and it was like this this city. I
Speaker 1: guess do you remember the.
Speaker 2: Question where this? What city is it? Are they awarded
Speaker 2: in it?
Speaker 1: But it wasn't where they awarded in?
Speaker 6: Wasn't it like it, where's the newest prize awarded in
Speaker 6: this Scandinavian?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yes, I wouldn't have gotten that one. Jason.
Speaker 1: I was I'm like Scandinavian, so I'm thinking Helsinki. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: like I got what's Norway? And I didn't have it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, is Denmark? And I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Denmark. I'm gonna say Copenhagen, which sounds like
Speaker 1: an elegant city, great city, and I had just been
Speaker 1: watching The Bear and that restaurant. What's the restaurant like Noma?
Speaker 1: Is that what it's called. It's like the fanciest restaurant
Speaker 1: in the world, and I think it's in either Copenhagen
Speaker 1: or Amsterdam. I was like, what is Copenhagen, feeling like
Speaker 1: it was chance. The answer was what is Oslo? And
Speaker 1: I'm kicking myself. I'm like, of all the daily doubles,
Speaker 1: why do I get one in Nobel Prizes? So that's
Speaker 1: a great question. The one I felt most confident in
Speaker 1: was the EI E I Oh.
Speaker 2: You did so well in that yeah.
Speaker 1: And I cleaned up bro And it was basically pop
Speaker 1: stars who have those letters or pop bands yeah songs
Speaker 1: And I got one there in the Gemina bottle from
Speaker 1: Christina Aguilera One direction and Debbie Gibson. Kicking myself afterwards,
Speaker 1: they said, which Madonna's greatest hits is? E? I E,
Speaker 1: I Oh? And I'm thinking about Madonna's greatest hits and Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the movie what was it Truth or Dare?
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, is it called Truth or Dare? It
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, and like it was around the same time,
Speaker 1: and of course it's the Immaculate Collection, which I had
Speaker 1: that two CD in my bedroom and I'm kicking myself.
Speaker 1: But no regrets.
Speaker 6: That was a hard one because they didn't give you
Speaker 6: a ton of letters in that one either.
Speaker 1: No, it was just like blank, all right, Jason, what
Speaker 1: do you got?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 6: So I don't often request to come on the podcast here,
Speaker 6: but I felt this is important. My favorite thing about
Speaker 6: this show is when you go deep with coaches gms
Speaker 6: about their origin, how they started making copies, cut breaking
Speaker 6: down film.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have a.
Speaker 6: Similar Jeopardy story where you were a viewer and then
Speaker 6: you were playing on the Commodore at sixty four for sure,
Speaker 6: and then you were you got to read a clue?
Speaker 6: Was that last year?
Speaker 1: That was last year I got to read a clue?
Speaker 1: It was like this NFL quarterback went from the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers to the Chiefs and then beat the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers the first time they played who is Joe Montana?
Speaker 1: All right? Go on?
Speaker 6: So that for most people, that would have been enough Jeopardy,
Speaker 6: that's the pinnacle. But this season Celebrity Jeopardy, the advanced analytics,
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 1: Are going to back up your claim, your your.
Speaker 6: Strong candidate, second place finish, acquitted yourself.
Speaker 1: Well, solid showing.
Speaker 3: I don't I'm getting to a question.
Speaker 6: I'm getting to a question.
Speaker 1: I love your question. You're like me on these podcasts.
Speaker 1: I don't want to end there.
Speaker 6: I think that we've got a lot of influential sports
Speaker 6: media and media people who listen to this show. Michael
Speaker 6: Davies your your friend.
Speaker 1: He doesn't listen to this, but go on.
Speaker 6: We can forward him the bar, this clip, this part
Speaker 6: Sports Jeopardy. Why isn't there Sports Jeopardy? And why aren't
Speaker 6: you the host? This should be on six hundred markets
Speaker 6: across the world.
Speaker 1: Jason, it's a great question. I'll go even more specific.
Speaker 1: The NFL the most powerful brand in the business. Jeopardy
Speaker 1: the most powerful game show. I think we could just
Speaker 1: do NFL Jeopardy and it would be a huge hit.
Speaker 1: Throw it on the NFL network instead of re airing
Speaker 1: a preseason game from twenty fourteen or showing some crappy
Speaker 1: you know, reair of a game that we haven't throw on,
Speaker 1: just episode after episode. We could bank hundreds of these
Speaker 1: and it would do really well. I think people from
Speaker 1: the NFL network, in the NFL media, you know, conglomerate
Speaker 1: that that employs us, listen to this. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to say it's the biggest no brainer in the world,
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't cost much. I would do it with
Speaker 1: such joy. We could bank four hundred. Now here's my
Speaker 1: question to you, though, because I'll spin it on you.
Speaker 1: I think it's a no brainer. Do you have current
Speaker 1: NFL personalities as the guests or do you have the
Speaker 1: most hardcore football fans as Jeopardy contestants? Or do you
Speaker 1: like have like Sean mcva verus Kyle Shanahan versus Nick
Speaker 1: Sirianni Jason your thoughts.
Speaker 6: I think I'd want some personalities in there. So you're
Speaker 6: the host, are we bringing on play show?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I just said coaches, Like we have
Speaker 1: coaches and gms, and you have owners and you have
Speaker 1: some players. But like then you got to really sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, narrow it down to the current day. But
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, you know, let's have an owner's
Speaker 1: edition let's have NFC West coaches Pete Carroll goes up
Speaker 1: against Sean McVay, who goes up against Kyle Shanahan. Do
Speaker 1: you want to go that cerific because there's a way
Speaker 1: to do that or is it just the smartest celebrity fans,
Speaker 1: the guys and gals who live and breathe this thing,
Speaker 1: and you can go real deep and be like, who
Speaker 1: were number twenty five for the Denver Broncos in the
Speaker 1: late seventies. It's like boom, who is you know, Haven Moses?
Speaker 1: You know, like, do you want that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think I think I want that. I think it
Speaker 6: would be too difficult to to get the coaches, get
Speaker 6: the g you know, get your buddies who you know
Speaker 6: no football Like, you can't just always be like we
Speaker 6: when you guys do that good morning football game, or
Speaker 6: you just show pictures of old quarterbacks like that could
Speaker 6: be the one hundred dollars rat yes, and then and
Speaker 6: move on and get that the elite level. Who are
Speaker 6: you inviting on in this first first season sweeps week?
Speaker 6: Who we got Aaron Rodgers is a guest, Tom Brady's
Speaker 6: a guest, and Peyton Manning's a guest. That's your first episode, the.
Speaker 1: Three, the three intellectual quarterbacks, the three you know, smartest
Speaker 1: Jeopardy guys. I would have all those guys on. Then
Speaker 1: I would go sports media style. I would have Collinsworth
Speaker 1: versus Aikman versus Oh I don't need herb Street he
Speaker 1: I think NFL like voices who Romo. I would go
Speaker 1: Romo versus Collinsworth versus Aikman and have Greg Olsen. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe if one of those guys is not available or
Speaker 1: whatever it is, with slide Greg and like, that's how
Speaker 1: I would look at it, and then you can have
Speaker 1: Eisen versus Turrico versus you know, James Brown. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's a million ways to go about this thing, and
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. Again, the IP is there,
Speaker 1: the NFL is there, and I don't want to give
Speaker 1: any more away because someone listening is gonna probably take
Speaker 1: it and Rich Eyes and Linda posting it instead of me.
Speaker 2: All right, I got one more for you on your
Speaker 2: final quick one of all the nineteen questions you got right,
Speaker 2: which is the one you're most proud of?
Speaker 3: Great?
Speaker 1: Great question. I took a few guesses that were right.
Speaker 1: One of them was the two bridges connecting or the
Speaker 1: bridge that connected two peninsulas. It was like the upper
Speaker 1: and lower peninsula this state, and it was what is Michigan?
Speaker 1: And that was a complete shot in the dark. Another
Speaker 1: one was a fungus question. It was early on it
Speaker 1: was like this fungus in it. I was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know any fungus, but it's a two hundred
Speaker 1: dollars question. What is mushroom? And they're like, that's correct,
Speaker 1: and I pretend like I knew what it was. I
Speaker 1: didn't know what it was. And then I took a
Speaker 1: wild guess on the veal one and it was like
Speaker 1: this type of veal is named after a famous musician
Speaker 1: who did it my way, and I'm like, oh, that's Sinatra.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know and I originally said what is
Speaker 1: then I changed it to who is I was. I
Speaker 1: was in the zone. I had an amazing experience. And
Speaker 1: like I said, the producers were great. Everyone was great.
Speaker 1: And it's over and you know, my son got to
Speaker 1: watch it. He was proud of me. My wife got
Speaker 1: to watch it. I think she was into me for
Speaker 1: the first time in like a year. So it was cool.
Speaker 1: I got text from I got text from so many
Speaker 1: people that I had not heard from in years, but
Speaker 1: also people that I didn't even think would be Jeopardy
Speaker 1: watchers who didn't know I was going to be on
Speaker 1: the show. It really meant a lot. And if you
Speaker 1: do know me and you didn't text me, I also
Speaker 1: remember that as well, because that's just how I lived
Speaker 1: my life, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: It just you know, no beef held there, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We've got a great guest, as you see in
Speaker 1: the title here. In a second, we're going to get
Speaker 1: to him. But real quick, it's Halloween today and I
Speaker 1: dressed as Al Davis on the show, and I like
Speaker 1: watched forty five minutes of Al Davis interviews just to
Speaker 1: like get down the affect and the Brooklyn yet also
Speaker 1: get the walk right. And it felt great. You'll appreciate this.
Speaker 1: They blow dry, They did the blow dry of the hair,
Speaker 1: but then they slicked it back. It was like a
Speaker 1: concrete like slab on my head. I had the white
Speaker 1: on white satin with the with the amazing white pants.
Speaker 1: I had chains, I had pinky rings, I had the
Speaker 1: whole thing. So we get done with the show, I
Speaker 1: take it off and I'm like all right time to
Speaker 1: go back to Brooklyn. I, you know, take a subway back.
Speaker 1: I get back off the subway, look at and I
Speaker 1: realized I never removed the rings of the necklaces. So
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there with this crazy hair, regular clothes and
Speaker 1: pinky rings and a necklace that was like a big,
Speaker 1: gaudy silver necklace. I almost got myself pickpocket. I don't
Speaker 1: know what I was thinking I was on the subway,
Speaker 1: but yes, that was my experience. And then later today
Speaker 1: I'll be trick or treating and I gotta be honest,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to get back in that Al
Speaker 1: Davis gear. I kind of liked embodying Al Davis. It
Speaker 1: felt kind of good. Aaron, are you trick or treating?
Speaker 1: Do you do this as a man with no children
Speaker 1: at the moment? Do you still engage?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: We did two parties this weekend now just like yeah,
Speaker 2: very active we can for me. And also just like
Speaker 2: last year, I remember you asked me what I was
Speaker 2: doing for Halloween.
Speaker 1: As like Beethoven symphony or something like.
Speaker 2: I went to the dog Halloween costume contest.
Speaker 1: How was it?
Speaker 2: I did it again this year and it was incredible.
Speaker 2: I love that I was I think, I was telling
Speaker 2: Shane afterwards, I have never felt more strong. I was
Speaker 2: like it was like rooting for a sports team. There
Speaker 2: was one dog in particular I wanted to win, and
Speaker 2: they did win.
Speaker 1: What did the dog go?
Speaker 2: As David Byrne in the oversized suit?
Speaker 1: It was making sense?
Speaker 3: It was so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, I truly have never loved a costume
Speaker 2: like that. And then I went as Carmi from the Bear.
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, great, Why Carmie?
Speaker 6: Why not?
Speaker 1: Why not still have my temporary tattoo on? Nice? Why
Speaker 1: not Richie? Too deep cut? You like Carmi?
Speaker 2: I had the equipment for Carmi a little bit easier,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I would have I would have gone.
Speaker 1: It was his name, fac Hodagan. What was his name,
Speaker 1: Mattie Matheson? What was his character? He was great? I
Speaker 1: love him in the back. All right. One more thing
Speaker 1: I have This year, I've been in devouring books on
Speaker 1: my flights to LA and back. I've read the Michael
Speaker 1: Lewis book about SBF. I've read the Isaacson one on Musk.
Speaker 1: I'm reading all the stuff that's out. I'm I have
Speaker 1: to make a recommendation everybody read the John Stamos memoir.
Speaker 1: It just came out. There's been a lot of press
Speaker 1: about some of the things he says about his marriage
Speaker 1: to Rebecca Romaine. Don't be sidetracked by that being what
Speaker 1: this is. This is a true Hollywood story. He goes
Speaker 1: from a kid working the griddle at his dad's Greek
Speaker 1: diner in I want to say, like Irvine, California, to
Speaker 1: being a soap opera star in the eighties on General Hospital,
Speaker 1: to then going to full House, to then a movie
Speaker 1: career to then er and all the way in between.
Speaker 1: He's got stories about hanging with Don Rickles and Frank Sinatra,
Speaker 1: and his relationship with Saggot and Dave Coolier and the
Speaker 1: Olsen twins, and then there's some really like honest and
Speaker 1: vulnerable stuff about marrying a woman who at the time
Speaker 1: was a model, and then after he married her went
Speaker 1: on to be the swimsuit Model of the Year Starr
Speaker 1: in the X Men movies and had a giant, giant
Speaker 1: career while his career kind of the took to the
Speaker 1: back burner. And I thought Stamos in this book is
Speaker 1: incredibly He's vulnerable and basically says she emasculated him and
Speaker 1: her career was such a force in his world that
Speaker 1: you know he couldn't live with it. And then he
Speaker 1: goes into what he discovered on her and how do
Speaker 1: you lift yourself back up? But like, great stuff about
Speaker 1: him and his father's relationship, great stuff about him and
Speaker 1: Saggot's relationship. I gotta tell you, I didn't expect to
Speaker 1: be crying at the end of a John Stamos memoir,
Speaker 1: but that is my recommendation to all of you. Stamos
Speaker 1: is new. I don't even have the name of it. Aaron,
Speaker 1: do you have the name out there, because I'd like
Speaker 1: to pass it along.
Speaker 2: Yeah. His memoir is called if you would have told me.
Speaker 1: If you would have told me, it's fantastic. So everyone,
Speaker 1: I promise you will not be disappointed. My favorite book
Speaker 1: of all time is a memoir. It's Andrea Agassi's Open
Speaker 1: I also think Matthew Perry's Last Year Very Appropriate Now
Speaker 1: was incredibly well written and well done and great stories
Speaker 1: and tragic in its own way. Another celebrity memoir I've
Speaker 1: always suggested to people if you want to read a
Speaker 1: good one is The Kid Stays in the Picture, about
Speaker 1: Robert Evans. And then another one that is not as
Speaker 1: well known. Rob Lowe had a really good one about
Speaker 1: a decade ago, and his life is even crazier than anybody.
Speaker 1: It's with what he went through as far as celebrity
Speaker 1: and fame goes. So all that to get to another
Speaker 1: book author, a guest who was on here to talk
Speaker 1: about a very cool project he's doing, but figure we'll
Speaker 1: do a little deeper dive with him. An idol of mine, truly,
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick joins us next. He's a hero of mine.
Speaker 1: He's still the top of his game, and he's become
Speaker 1: a friend and a guy that I really really do love.
Speaker 1: Has got a new book out also, it's called The
Speaker 1: Occasionally Accurate Annals of Football. It's with a co author,
Speaker 1: Joel H. Cohen. But the guest on the season with
Speaker 1: Peter Schrigger this week, it is an honor, mister Dan Patrick,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Are you nervous a little bit? Okay, don't be. You're
Speaker 5: used to being asked questions or now you're doing the asking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's break the fourth wall here. Like when your
Speaker 1: guys first asked me to come on as a guest
Speaker 1: to your show, it was almost like being asked to
Speaker 1: host starting a live or something. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is I've been watching you, listening to you for much
Speaker 1: of my life and also throughout my career, and you'd
Speaker 1: always had everyone else, the Peter Kings and the other sports.
Speaker 1: Right now, I was like, oh, I got the call
Speaker 1: up to the big leagues, and I just never wanted
Speaker 1: to myself when I was on your show. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to always do a he's did enough job where
Speaker 1: I can get asked back. And now I feel like
Speaker 1: Seinfeld that the Today's Tonight's Show with Johnny I would
Speaker 1: get the callback. And I've probably gone on like eleven times,
Speaker 1: so it's really crazy for me to be interviewing you
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that's the goal to not yourself, but
Speaker 5: hopefully you achieved your goal. But no, I like enthusiasm.
Speaker 5: I like somebody who's different. You did your homework. The
Speaker 5: Good Morning Football is a fun show, and you know
Speaker 5: that's that's what you want. You want guests that get
Speaker 5: your show. They can play along, and you certainly have
Speaker 5: and that's why you know we enjoy having you on
Speaker 5: and Kyle Brandt as well. You know, it's just getting
Speaker 5: fun people on saying interesting things.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So I'm sure you think I just
Speaker 1: grew up watching Sports Center, but I actually before that, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that CNN had a powerhouse
Speaker 1: of a sports department and program like I used to
Speaker 1: watch I think it was Nick Charles and one of
Speaker 1: the Cellini brothers who.
Speaker 5: Was at VINCE or whatever it was Vince, but it
Speaker 5: was Fred Hickman and.
Speaker 1: Fred Hickman and Nick Charles, right, and I would watch
Speaker 1: them every night on their CNN show, and then on
Speaker 1: the Sunday nights they would have an NBA show at
Speaker 1: like ten thirty and it was and it had Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith on it before, like Steven A. Smith was like
Speaker 1: this national guy. But this is like mid nineties, early nineties,
Speaker 1: and you were the dude in the late eighties early
Speaker 1: nineties on that network that I fell in love with you. Then,
Speaker 1: does the CNN Sports era of sports TV just get
Speaker 1: completely overlooked in an ESPN like you know world that
Speaker 1: we're in right now.
Speaker 5: Yes, And I think that at the time when we
Speaker 5: had CNN Sports, we were a better sports department than
Speaker 5: ESPN was because we had talent. We also had really
Speaker 5: good writers journalists. Because you had to at CNN, not
Speaker 5: to say you didn't have it at ESPN, but I
Speaker 5: don't think that was a priority. I think entertainment was
Speaker 5: a priority there. And when we did our show, Nick
Speaker 5: and Fred were as good as any team who's done it.
Speaker 3: Awesome.
Speaker 1: What was the show called? Do you remember what it
Speaker 1: was called?
Speaker 3: Just CN in Sports Tonight.
Speaker 1: To be in Sports Tonight, and I was always like
Speaker 1: Sports Center or CNN Sports Tonight, and then CNN Sports Tonight.
Speaker 1: We never talked about.
Speaker 5: Anymore, no, And there were a lot of there's a
Speaker 5: lot of talent that came through there, and Dan Hicks,
Speaker 5: Hannah Storm, Vince Cellini, Gary Miller, Dennis Dummler, Nick and Fred.
Speaker 5: Those were the people that were there when I was there,
Speaker 5: and a lot of people behind the scenes went on
Speaker 5: to do great things. The person who started it was
Speaker 5: Bill McPhail, who was the first president of CBS Sports back.
Speaker 5: You know, he put on the you know, the greatest
Speaker 5: game ever played with the Giants and the Cold Cults. Yes,
Speaker 5: and he was there for the first instant replay and
Speaker 5: you know, so he was a legendary figure. His brother
Speaker 5: was the American League president McPhail. His dad, I think
Speaker 5: owned the Yankee. I mean, it was great to talk
Speaker 5: to Bill, and he ran the sports department, and I
Speaker 5: just remember I was there for five years and I
Speaker 5: didn't even have an agent. And what happened was I
Speaker 5: had lost out on a weekend job in Dayton, Ohio.
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to get it.
Speaker 5: They gave it to Ken Kettering, who was a better
Speaker 5: looking guys first time, like the reality hit of Oh
Speaker 5: they may not hire the best guy, but they hired
Speaker 5: the best looking guy, and he was. He even thought
Speaker 5: I was going to get the job. So I'm devastated.
Speaker 5: I'm twenty seven. I'm thinking I'm never going to get
Speaker 5: into TV. I was doing radio morning drive radio, and
Speaker 5: I go to Atlanta. A former girlfriend was down there
Speaker 5: and she said, you should come down here. CNN's hiring.
Speaker 5: I go, I couldn't get a job in Dayton, Ohio,
Speaker 5: and now I'm going to get a job at CNN.
Speaker 1: Ted Turner's not hiring me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I go in.
Speaker 5: I bring an audition tape, an audition tape that didn't
Speaker 5: get me the job at Channel two and Date, and
Speaker 5: I thought, okay. So the last day I'm there, I
Speaker 5: don't even know the process. Peter of how to get
Speaker 5: an interview. I have no coaching, know nothing, and I
Speaker 5: walk in and I go to the front desk, just
Speaker 5: like anybody else who could walk in. I said, hey,
Speaker 5: is the person in charge of sports here? And they go, well,
Speaker 5: who are you looking for? I go, I don't know
Speaker 5: who's who's the head of sports? Is incredible and they go,
Speaker 5: hold hold on, yes, I have a gentleman out here
Speaker 5: and he wants somebody, uh in sports, and I believe
Speaker 5: he has a resume TEP and then they go. She goes, uh,
Speaker 5: just leave the tape and somebody will get back to you.
Speaker 5: I go, well, I'm going back home. And then she
Speaker 5: she called back to the sports department, goes, who.
Speaker 1: Is this woman that's this is the light changer. This
Speaker 1: is unbelievable.
Speaker 5: He's going He's going back home. He wants to know
Speaker 5: if somebody can look at it. So they said back,
Speaker 5: she goes, where are you going? Are you driving back home?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: How far away? I said, I'm going back to Ohio.
Speaker 5: She calls back and says he's going back to Ohio.
Speaker 5: Bill McPhail happened to be from Columbus, Ohio, come on,
Speaker 5: and he said, have him come back because I said, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm going back to Dayton, Ohio.
Speaker 3: I go back.
Speaker 5: I meet him and he puts the tape in and
Speaker 5: he watches three and a half minutes, three and a
Speaker 5: half of five minutes, and then he popped it out
Speaker 5: and he goes, when can you start?
Speaker 2: Dan?
Speaker 1: I'm about to cry. I love this story. I've never
Speaker 1: heard this. Have you told the story anywhere? This is incredible.
Speaker 5: I've mentioned it. But I got hired to do headline sports. Sure,
Speaker 5: I'm making eighteen thousand. I took a ten thousand dollars
Speaker 5: pay cut to go to CNN. But I wanted to
Speaker 5: do sports, and I'm doing it and I'm not even
Speaker 5: on camera.
Speaker 3: I'm doing headline Sports. But I loved it.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm editing all the highlights, voicing it, and
Speaker 5: then you you know, get it over to headline News.
Speaker 5: Six months later, Keith Oberman leaves the New York bureau
Speaker 5: at CNN to take a job in Boston, and my
Speaker 5: boss says, have you ever been to New York? I said, oh, yeah, Now,
Speaker 5: I had never been to New York. I'm from a
Speaker 5: small town in Ohio. I've never been to New York.
Speaker 5: And then they go, well, would you be interested in,
Speaker 5: you know, being the New York Bureau reporter, replacing Keith,
Speaker 5: and I said, yeah, I took the job. I went
Speaker 5: and I stayed in the Downtown Athletic Club, which is
Speaker 5: where they met. So I stayed there for three months.
Speaker 5: I was only supposed to stay for a month, but
Speaker 5: I was so nervous that I didn't. I didn't have
Speaker 5: enough money to get an apartment in New York, and
Speaker 5: so I said, can I stay a couple extra months?
Speaker 5: And then I did at the DAC, and I remember
Speaker 5: that I finally got an apartment. I made eight hundred
Speaker 5: dollars a month and my apartment was five point fifty.
Speaker 5: So I wasn't really killing it, but I was. I
Speaker 5: was covering New York, Boston, Philly, d C. Any story
Speaker 5: that came up. So I'm covering Larry Bird against the
Speaker 5: Lakers in the NBA Finals. I'm covering Billy Martin with
Speaker 5: the Yankees. I'm there with the eighties World Series with
Speaker 5: Bill Buckner in the met I got to cover so
Speaker 5: many great events just by being up there, and you know,
Speaker 5: it really changed my life.
Speaker 3: And I met my wife at CNN.
Speaker 1: That's incredible.
Speaker 5: And I don't encourage people to lie, but you don't
Speaker 5: always have to tell the truth.
Speaker 3: How about that?
Speaker 1: And I do you think there's a message there though,
Speaker 1: because you went to Dayton, you know, I went to Emery,
Speaker 1: which is not exactly a hotbed for sports. I think
Speaker 1: there's an impression amongst young people in our industry that
Speaker 1: you have to go to Syracuse or Northwestern or USC
Speaker 1: and there's a path. There isn't a path. You have
Speaker 1: to be cunning. You've got to be flexible. You got
Speaker 1: to be willing to in my case right for any
Speaker 1: blog that would have you, and in your case move
Speaker 1: to any city. You have all these students now at
Speaker 1: the Full Sell like, what is your message to them
Speaker 1: as far as getting into the.
Speaker 5: Door, Well, what I wanted to do at Full Sale
Speaker 5: University and they have the Dan Patrick School to sportscasting.
Speaker 5: Your degree is in sports. Your bachelor's degree is sportscasting.
Speaker 5: We want you to understand, you know how tough. This
Speaker 5: is what you need to know. We want to give
Speaker 5: you the answers before the test. But as I tell
Speaker 5: all these students, I can get you over the wall.
Speaker 5: Are you running when you get over? Are you walking?
Speaker 5: Are you crawling? Because this is a. It's the most
Speaker 5: competitive job field in America in my opinion, because everybody
Speaker 5: thinks they can do it. Like they all sit there
Speaker 5: and go I could do I could talk sports, Okay,
Speaker 5: you can. What do you do after fifteen minutes when
Speaker 5: you run out of things to say? But I tell
Speaker 5: my students, we're going to get you ready. But it's
Speaker 5: up to you when you go in there being professional
Speaker 5: understanding ins and outs. You may not be on camera,
Speaker 5: there's nothing wrong with, you know, being behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: And I brought Gus Ramsey with me, who worked with
Speaker 5: me at ESPN for over twenty years, and we hire
Speaker 5: people who have been in the business. You get hands
Speaker 5: on experience. There there is no faculty that is better
Speaker 5: and has more experien pence than mine because we have
Speaker 5: over two hundred factor in my experience. Then all the
Speaker 5: people I worked with at ESPN assignment desk, reporters, producers,
Speaker 5: you're hearing it from the people who actually did it.
Speaker 5: And that's what I wanted them to understand. This is
Speaker 5: the business. If you're lucky, this can be your job.
Speaker 5: But there's a your full time your first job is
Speaker 5: being a student at full sale university because there's no
Speaker 5: frat parties, there's you know, it's it's not socials, it's
Speaker 5: none of that.
Speaker 3: You're showing up.
Speaker 5: This is your first job, and you know it gives
Speaker 5: them that dosa reality of how tough this is going
Speaker 5: to be. And our job is to make it look easy.
Speaker 5: That's why, like I wanted to do it. When I
Speaker 5: saw Bob Constance, I go, yeah, that looks easy.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 5: It's those who can do it really well make it
Speaker 5: look easy and fun. You can never have a bad
Speaker 5: day at Sports Center. No one would let you have
Speaker 5: a bad day, because how can you have a bad day.
Speaker 5: You're doing Sports Center. But you can have a day.
Speaker 5: It's just you can't let anybody know because that was
Speaker 5: the dream job years ago.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so much so that there was an ESPN reality
Speaker 1: show called ESPN Dream Job And guess who stood online
Speaker 1: with two hundred people in front of the ESPN Sportszone
Speaker 1: in Atlanta in Buckhead and guess who. My first break was.
Speaker 1: I wait in that line and I was wearing a
Speaker 1: shirt that said that said I just want to meet
Speaker 1: Bill Clement And it was the most random, like ESPN
Speaker 1: person I could think of, the hockey guy I get
Speaker 1: in there, I'd never done any broadcasting. They give me
Speaker 1: a quiz and I got the quiz all right. I
Speaker 1: got ten out of ten. And then I got pulled
Speaker 1: aside by Howie Schwab and Al Jaffey and Howie Schwab
Speaker 1: was the reacher and they said, what do you want
Speaker 1: to do? I said, I'll do this show, sure, but
Speaker 1: all I want to do is write for ESPN dot com.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Bill Simmons fan. I love Ralph Wilie,
Speaker 1: I love the writing. I loved reading The Hunter s
Speaker 1: Thompson at the time I was writing for ESPN dot com,
Speaker 1: like I love it. I just want to chance to write.
Speaker 1: And then they led me to a different department who
Speaker 1: were the editors on the website, and it all happened
Speaker 1: because I wore a terrible T shirt but stood out
Speaker 1: and waited in that line. And that was the job
Speaker 1: for me. Dream job for you. You go from CNN,
Speaker 1: then you get to ESPN. I have to imagine you
Speaker 1: go to Bristol. It's not a huge, bustling metropolis, it's
Speaker 1: a campus. I have to imagine there's a lot of ego,
Speaker 1: a lot of testosterone. What's the pecan order? When Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick shows up to Bristol, Connecticut in the late eighties
Speaker 1: early nineties.
Speaker 5: I got there late eighties, March of eighty nine, okay,
Speaker 5: and Chris Berman was he was basically their Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: I mean it was Chris and he probably deserved two
Speaker 5: heads up there on Mount Rushmore, Tommy's and Bob Lee
Speaker 5: and I got there and look, I thought what we
Speaker 5: did at CNN was better than what they did. So
Speaker 5: I didn't go in there intimidated from the standpoint of
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm on equal footing. Now people
Speaker 5: have to understand where Chris Berman was back then. I
Speaker 5: mean without Chris you don't have a ESPN, you just
Speaker 5: and Bob and Tom you just don't. Because they were
Speaker 5: doing it, we didn't, you know, they probably didn't know
Speaker 5: who's watching, how many people, like, what place they had
Speaker 5: in somebody's life.
Speaker 3: But I got there. They made me observe for three months.
Speaker 1: You didn't get on air until three three months watching.
Speaker 3: Them, and I would and I kept saying, I can
Speaker 3: do this. I know what I don't I've done it before.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And what happened was I would come in and Chris
Speaker 5: Berman would call me the Charlotte observer.
Speaker 3: He'd go, it's this Charlotte observer.
Speaker 5: And all I did is I would sit there from
Speaker 5: like five in the afternoon until midnight watching them put
Speaker 5: together you know, Sports Center. They had everybody wrote their
Speaker 5: own scripts. And in the right corner, so we had
Speaker 5: this wall of monitors, so all these games are up
Speaker 5: there in the in the bottom right corner was porn.
Speaker 5: So Porn was playing after management.
Speaker 1: Spice Network just on.
Speaker 5: He scrambled, and I just remembered it was right there
Speaker 5: in the right corner. All these games are going on
Speaker 5: and porn is in, you know, the right, bottom right
Speaker 5: corner of it. And I go, I'm not at CNN anymore.
Speaker 5: And I was going to do my first show, and
Speaker 5: I don't know who was going.
Speaker 3: To anchor with me.
Speaker 1: Who's anchoring with you?
Speaker 5: Chris Berman had just done the eleven o'clock. He stayed
Speaker 5: and said, I'm doing your first show. Hell yes, And
Speaker 5: I was so honored by that because he stayed. And
Speaker 5: I just remember he was so loud when we got
Speaker 5: on the air, and I even said that, I go, man,
Speaker 5: you're loud, and he goes, you can always go back
Speaker 5: to CNN, and I was like, all right, let's go.
Speaker 3: I'm all in with this.
Speaker 5: But the fact that Chris and I never forgot that,
Speaker 5: I thought it was a wonderful gesture. And then soon
Speaker 5: after that I started doing the eleven o'clock with Bob
Speaker 5: Lee and stayed doing the eleven for fifteen years, and
Speaker 5: then decided that I wanted better hours to be a
Speaker 5: better father and husband and did the six o'clock Sports
Speaker 5: Center the last three years.
Speaker 1: A quick anecdote, and tell me if this lines up
Speaker 1: with but he was larger than life at ESPN, and
Speaker 1: he's still larger than life. We're at the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: two years ago in LA and Kyle Brant and I
Speaker 1: are like at SOFI Stadium on the outside campus, like
Speaker 1: outside the stadium. Everyone's going into the stadium. We're on
Speaker 1: the outside and a golf cart pulls by it and
Speaker 1: this guy's wearing a I mean, and again my memory
Speaker 1: might make it even like it's like a tall tail,
Speaker 1: like it's Paul bunnyan or something, but a giant straw
Speaker 1: hat in a golf cart, and I just had to
Speaker 1: I'm like Chris Berman, and without even hesitation, he tips
Speaker 1: the cap and just bows at us.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then I've been in airports with him. You could
Speaker 1: have Leo DiCaprio, you could have you could have Margot Robbie.
Speaker 1: The line of people who line up to say hello
Speaker 1: to Chris Berman is unlike anything I've ever seen, and
Speaker 1: he's larger than life.
Speaker 5: He's probably the first guy who connected with people so
Speaker 5: personally because it was every night. And think about when
Speaker 5: you watch TV at night, are you in somebody's bedroom,
Speaker 5: their living room. I mean there is a shared intimacy
Speaker 5: to that that he's kind of in my room with me.
Speaker 5: He's taught you know, people would say they felt like
Speaker 5: they knew me because I was always in their house.
Speaker 5: They could hear my voice, and that's the power of ESPN.
Speaker 5: But Chris is the first guy nationally who was able,
Speaker 5: I think, to connect with people every single night, and
Speaker 5: you know, that made him endearing to so many people.
Speaker 1: So then eventually you and Olberman link up, and I
Speaker 1: will tell you we called it the Big Show, and
Speaker 1: it felt like rock and roll. Honestly, that these two
Speaker 1: guys were, you know, the ones in the back of
Speaker 1: the class while everyone's in a suit and tie. It
Speaker 1: was the two of you guys making little underhanded comments.
Speaker 1: You had inside jokes you had jokes with the viewers,
Speaker 1: and you guys just hit it off in such a
Speaker 1: way that at that time in my life, I'll just
Speaker 1: you know, everything's personal with me because I'm an egomaniac,
Speaker 1: So I bring it back to me. It was Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live, and it was the era of Sandler and
Speaker 1: Myers and Farley and Spade and those guys, and then
Speaker 1: it was you guys on Sunday nights, and it was
Speaker 1: like Saturday Night and Sunday Night. Those were my dudes.
Speaker 1: Did it feel that way?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: When you were doing it, did you realize the impact
Speaker 1: you were making on an entire generation?
Speaker 5: We later we did. But you have to understand. Management
Speaker 5: did not encourage us. They didn't want us to call
Speaker 5: it the Big Show. They were worried, and you know,
Speaker 5: a former boss of mine said, we don't want another Berman.
Speaker 3: We don't want somebody.
Speaker 5: Who we can control larger than the brand. Yes, and
Speaker 5: they were worried about that, and I understand that. But
Speaker 5: Keith and I we just sort of said, Okay, we
Speaker 5: have to do this in a clandestine way.
Speaker 3: That's why we had inside jokes. That's why it was sneaky.
Speaker 5: It was never overt and I think it made for
Speaker 5: a better show. It's like, you know when I used
Speaker 5: to listen to Howard Stern, when you couldn't say certain
Speaker 5: words or you couldn't show something, it made it even
Speaker 5: more impactful. It's like, oh my god, now I can
Speaker 5: visualize that we weren't allowed to be in front of
Speaker 5: the product. It was you had to be sort of
Speaker 5: pick your spots have fun with it. But Keith was
Speaker 5: such a wonderful team player that he wanted to make
Speaker 5: a great show every single night, every single night. And
Speaker 5: we never took it for granted. You never mailed anything in.
Speaker 5: It was every night and you wanted to entertain each
Speaker 5: other that we never knew what you were going to write.
Speaker 5: I never looked at his scripts, he never looked at mine.
Speaker 5: Probably sixty to seventy percent of the show was AdLib
Speaker 5: and we only had three camera people and a floor director,
Speaker 5: and you were trying to entertain them, and we thought
Speaker 5: if we made them laugh, then maybe the people who
Speaker 5: were watching. But we never really knew the impact until
Speaker 5: a little bit later on, and then Keith was only
Speaker 5: there for I think five years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was it was magic.
Speaker 5: We never ever ever discussed why it works or let's
Speaker 5: change something. It never we would type our scripts. Keith
Speaker 5: would usually type his in forty five minutes, it would
Speaker 5: take me three hours, and then we would get together.
Speaker 5: They didn't want to they didn't want to pay for
Speaker 5: a makeup artist, so we had to put our own
Speaker 5: makeup on in the bathroom at ten thirty at night,
Speaker 5: and then we'd be on the air at eleven and
Speaker 5: then we go our separate ways. But when we got
Speaker 5: to ESPN, we were doing a show. But that was
Speaker 5: really the only interaction that we had. But I liked
Speaker 5: it because we didn't waste things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we.
Speaker 1: Meet Kyle Bran, I do the same thing. We don't
Speaker 1: ever reveal. I didn't even know what he's doing is
Speaker 1: Halloween today, Like we don't ever reveal anything. Yeah, for
Speaker 1: the air, say for the air, I.
Speaker 5: Like the surprise element of it. But it was live,
Speaker 5: and there's something about doing live. But also we would
Speaker 5: do the highlights and the fact that we were on
Speaker 5: at eleven o'clock at night. Let's say a game ended
Speaker 5: at eleven o'clock or eleven oh seven. They'd have to
Speaker 5: edit the highlights and then bring them in. We hadn't
Speaker 5: seen them sure, so you're getting a shot sheet. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they give me a shot sheet, they bring it in.
Speaker 5: I'd be I can't tell you the number of times
Speaker 5: I'd be on camera. So I'd be reading the prompter
Speaker 5: here and I go and Cleveland hosting Milwaukee, and Kenny
Speaker 5: Lofton is having an incredible streak. You know, he's nineteen
Speaker 5: games in a row. I'm reaching out over here off
Speaker 5: camera to get and let's go. Let's go to Cleveland,
Speaker 5: you know, Municipal Stadium, boom, And then I looked down
Speaker 5: at the shotsheet and then we start the highlights. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and just the rush that you would have such a
Speaker 5: though it's live and there'd be names on there, spelling henmanship,
Speaker 5: and you'd just go, you know what. And that's why
Speaker 5: we came up with catchphrases because it allowed you to
Speaker 5: cheat a little bit. So if there was Greg Maddox tomorrow,
Speaker 5: you know, three to one to Mark McGuire gone, and
Speaker 5: then I would pause because then I could look on
Speaker 5: the shot sheet and go, McGuire's thirty second of the year.
Speaker 5: You know, he's got ninety four RBIs and the Cardinals
Speaker 5: leave five three. So it allowed us to kind of
Speaker 5: gather and then you could look at the shot sheet
Speaker 5: and it just kind of helped. And then after a
Speaker 5: while we sort of mocked ourselves with let's come up
Speaker 5: with catchphrases that are so stupid because of them, it
Speaker 5: was cow Hide joy Ride and I remember, okay, it
Speaker 5: was a home run, and I was like, that's a
Speaker 5: cow hide joy ride. And I remember keep going cal
Speaker 5: like he even said it on the air. It's like,
Speaker 5: cal height, what what? And I just I got the
Speaker 5: biggest kick out of We wanted to make each other think, laugh,
Speaker 5: you know, whatever emotion you could get out of somebody.
Speaker 5: If it was a serious story, you know you wanted
Speaker 5: you wanted that. But you know it worked. And I
Speaker 5: remember when he left, I said, you'll never have this again.
Speaker 5: He had gotten I think he had gotten bored. I
Speaker 5: think he wanted a different lifestyle and he went to
Speaker 5: Fox and I just said, you'll never get this ever again.
Speaker 5: And you know he realized that soon after, and I
Speaker 5: never got it back again. I had wonderful people to
Speaker 5: anchor with, but there was nothing like that with anybody else,
Speaker 5: just because man, when you're on that wire and there's
Speaker 5: no net and you know you can trust that person,
Speaker 5: you know you really build a bond, and we certainly
Speaker 5: had that.
Speaker 1: It's special, But then you guys crossed into like beyond
Speaker 1: just Sports Center here, I mean the commercials which you
Speaker 1: guys dubbed this is Sports Center. But then I think
Speaker 1: a major moment for like back now every rapper has
Speaker 1: athletes in their videos, and every musician is dating and
Speaker 1: a half. It wasn't necessarily the case when you guys
Speaker 1: were on that Hooty and the Blowfish video. That was
Speaker 1: major for everyone, Like that was major. Can you take
Speaker 1: us through the impetus and the genesis of that story.
Speaker 5: Well, I'll go back to the this is Sports Center
Speaker 5: ad campaign because that started after Keith and I got
Speaker 5: scolded for basically trying to secede.
Speaker 3: From the union.
Speaker 5: Like hey, well you guys, you know, we were a
Speaker 5: hot air balloon that was tethered, but we were still
Speaker 5: drifting pretty high up, and I remember we got called
Speaker 5: in and management yelled at us, I mean really yelled
Speaker 5: at us, and I remember they didn't they wanted us
Speaker 5: to stop calling at the big show. We wanted every
Speaker 5: time you go to break when you're teasing things, we
Speaker 5: want you to end with this is Sports Center. And
Speaker 5: I remember when we came out of the meeting, and
Speaker 5: Keith famously said, I'm shell shocked. I mean, I'm like,
Speaker 5: I can't lose this job. I got three kids. And
Speaker 5: so Keith goes and I go, well, yes, they're not
Speaker 5: going to fire us. We'll say this is Sports Center.
Speaker 5: I go, okay, So this is in the afternoon. We
Speaker 5: have to do a show that night. I mean, imagine
Speaker 5: how we feel we just got aired out by manager.
Speaker 1: I've had those talks.
Speaker 5: We get there doing the show, we go to break
Speaker 5: after like eighteen minutes, and then you know, coming up
Speaker 5: Da da da, and Keith goes this and Smarts Center,
Speaker 5: and I go, all right, it's on right there. And
Speaker 5: then they created the ad campaign. So I go to
Speaker 5: my boss, John Walsh. I go, why don't we promote
Speaker 5: Sports Center? He goes, we don't need to. I said,
Speaker 5: you promote all these other shows, you know, NFL Countdown.
Speaker 5: And then he said, all right, we'll do an ad
Speaker 5: campaign and it was called this is Sports Center. We
Speaker 5: couldn't get any athletes to show up because you have
Speaker 5: to go to Bristol, Connecticut.
Speaker 3: They don't pay you.
Speaker 5: They gave you a like a donation stipend of two
Speaker 5: thousand dollars for charity.
Speaker 3: And I called Grant Hill.
Speaker 5: I called a lot of people, but I called Grant
Speaker 5: Hill and Jason Kidd, and I said, would you like
Speaker 5: to be in a commercial co Rookies of the Year,
Speaker 5: Let's go, I know, and you know it turned out
Speaker 5: they both were like, well, where do we have to go?
Speaker 5: And I go Bristol, Connecticut. What do we get paid?
Speaker 5: I go, well, you don't get paid, and thank god
Speaker 5: they did it. So Grant played the piano in the lobby.
Speaker 5: When I have a bad show, he's, you know, the jacket,
Speaker 5: the jacket over my shoulder. And then and then Jason
Speaker 5: Kidd we went to a helipad and he was getting
Speaker 5: out of a helicopter with his videotape of his game
Speaker 5: and here were his highlights, and then he was telling
Speaker 5: us what highlights those were the first two and then
Speaker 5: after that everybody wanted their own Sports Center commercial. And
Speaker 5: then I think because hooting the blowfish they had just
Speaker 5: broken with hold my hand yep, I actually ran into
Speaker 5: we crossed paths at the Masters. I've known those guys
Speaker 5: for it's twenty nine years now, but they were too afraid,
Speaker 5: nervous to say allow to me and I didn't see
Speaker 5: them there, but they said, you know, we walked by you,
Speaker 5: and I think it was the ninety four Masters, and
Speaker 5: they reached out and said would we like to be
Speaker 5: in the video. And I don't know if Keith was
Speaker 5: aware of them or how aware I was, and I
Speaker 5: knew he was going to have Dan Marino and some
Speaker 5: other people, and then we became friends, so i've been.
Speaker 5: My fortieth birthday, I went to Europe with them for
Speaker 5: eight days, traveling around with them London, Scotland and Ireland
Speaker 5: doing the shows, first time they'd been over there as
Speaker 5: a band. And the fiftieth they came to my house
Speaker 5: and performed. And then my sixtieth I went with some friends,
Speaker 5: my brothers and Darius and we went to Pebble Beach.
Speaker 5: If I'm around when I'm seventy, I'm not sure what
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask them to do, but they'll probably
Speaker 5: you know, at least Darius is going to be involved
Speaker 5: in it because he's he's been around for a long time,
Speaker 5: good friend.
Speaker 1: So cool. Then you get the connection with the Sandler
Speaker 1: guys and you're in probably like a dozen Sandler.
Speaker 5: Movies, twenty I think twenty or twenty one movie. It
Speaker 5: sounds that sounds, you know, pretentious that I don't know
Speaker 5: how many movies, but it's I think it's twenty I.
Speaker 1: Mean, and it's not just you, it's the Danet's, it's
Speaker 1: all the guys.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, he's extremely loyal as.
Speaker 1: Oh I can imagine. I mean, look at their guys
Speaker 1: in his movies, all of them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he goes, Danny, once you're in, you're in, and
Speaker 5: I you know, it's like a mob family, Like you're in,
Speaker 5: you're in for life.
Speaker 1: What was what was the first movie you did with him?
Speaker 5: I did water Boy, okay, and then I told him
Speaker 5: I didn't want to play myself like once again hell arrogant,
Speaker 5: Like all good, I don't want to be myself and
Speaker 5: he goes, all right. Sandler goes, you're Danny mcpatrick. You're
Speaker 5: going to be a police officer and wear a mustache.
Speaker 5: And I'm in the longest yard and I'm a police
Speaker 5: officer wearing a mustache, and uh, we try to arrest
Speaker 5: Sandler at the beginning of the movie.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember all of what was the that's
Speaker 1: that's my boy, that's my boy.
Speaker 5: I go, Yeah, he wanted me to be a sort
Speaker 5: of a Jerry Springer type guy talk show host and
Speaker 5: just go with it. I'm on stage with Dave Matthews,
Speaker 5: Jennifer Aniston, Nicole Kidman. I mean, he's he's been very
Speaker 5: very generous. I don't know if it's to the detriment
Speaker 5: of the you know, finished product, but he's been very
Speaker 5: very generous through the years. And he wrote the forward
Speaker 5: to this book. He didn't even know what a forward was,
Speaker 5: because I said, Sadman, can you write the forward to
Speaker 5: this book?
Speaker 3: Danny? What's a forward?
Speaker 5: I said, you know, the beginning the book, and you know,
Speaker 5: you kind of write whatever. He goes, what am I
Speaker 5: writing about? I said, you can write about your love
Speaker 5: of the Jets, all right? Can I write about how
Speaker 5: much I hate the Patriots? I said, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5: He goes, how long is it going to be? I
Speaker 5: go just go until you stop up? And he goes, Okay.
Speaker 5: Next day he sends me his forward, the draft, and
Speaker 5: then he goes there, hopefully that's what you need and
Speaker 5: I said, awesome, Sam Man, it'll be great. And then
Speaker 5: the next day he texts me he said, Danny got
Speaker 5: to take Tom Brady's stuff out. You know, I hated
Speaker 5: tom Brady because he was with the Patriots. But I
Speaker 5: don't want to say I hate Tom Brady now, okay,
Speaker 5: And then I said, yeah, we'll take it out, don't
Speaker 5: worry about it. So it's about his love of the Jets,
Speaker 5: growing up in New Hampshire, being a Jets fan.
Speaker 3: So good.
Speaker 1: They say that his sets, like when you're filming is
Speaker 1: he's so hospitable, he's so gracious, and it really is
Speaker 1: as fun as it looks, and a lot of times
Speaker 1: it's in some pretty cool locales. Do you have a
Speaker 1: good story about where you went from one of these movies?
Speaker 3: Well, I went to Hawaii.
Speaker 5: That's for just go with it, right, that was just ya,
Speaker 5: just go with it. And and it was a big part.
Speaker 5: I mean I had a big part. And I'm on
Speaker 5: stage with Aniston and Kidman and I remember the night
Speaker 5: I got I shot part of my scene. And then
Speaker 5: Nick Schwartzen, the comedian Minnesota guy. Yeah, so Schwarty shows up.
Speaker 5: He's in the movie. But he goes, uh, Danny, we're
Speaker 5: going drinking tonight and I'm gonna drink you under the table.
Speaker 3: And I said, I said, Nick, don't do that.
Speaker 5: And he's like, okay, yeah, you know, I said, I said, Schworty,
Speaker 5: I'll crush you. Well, he didn't believe me. I walk
Speaker 5: into the bar. It's a Tommy Bahamas bar in Hawaii,
Speaker 5: and he gets me a mind eraser that is in
Speaker 5: a tall glass and he goes and I said, I said,
Speaker 5: what are we doing?
Speaker 3: He goes, We're downing these.
Speaker 5: I said, wait, we're gonna take down the whole and
Speaker 5: he goes, yeah, And so I down a mind a
Speaker 5: racer and then next thing I know, there was another
Speaker 5: one that came over, and then another one came over
Speaker 5: and I go, I said, Schwarty, you know what, I
Speaker 5: owe it to Sandler to be ready to go tomorrow.
Speaker 5: And he goes, oh, are you being you want to?
Speaker 5: And I go all right, I said, look, if you die,
Speaker 5: you asked for this. This is self inflicted. Well we
Speaker 5: kept going. Next morning, nobody knows where Schwarty is. Afternoon,
Speaker 5: nobody can find Nick Schwartzen. Later in the evening, nobody's
Speaker 5: heard from Nick Schwartzen. I'm getting ready to shoot my scene.
Speaker 5: Schwartzen comes in, looks horrible, disheveled. Best yeah, I mean
Speaker 5: he doesn't want to go to begin with, but he goes, hey,
Speaker 5: come here, come here. You can't tell Sandler, you can't
Speaker 5: tell I said, what.
Speaker 3: The principal or big brother daddy.
Speaker 5: He got so messed up he fell asleep in the
Speaker 5: uh sand trap at the golf course across from the hotel. Incredible,
Speaker 5: lost his keys, lost his cell phone and uh no,
Speaker 5: he didn't lose his key, lost his cell phone so
Speaker 5: nobody could get in touch with it. But he comes
Speaker 5: in and he might have just gotten out of the
Speaker 5: sand trap. I just remember, I said, I said, shorty.
Speaker 5: He goes, You're right, I won't do it again. The
Speaker 5: next night we went out. He didn't have a drink. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: We went south to a sushi place.
Speaker 5: But Sandman will always say, look, just don't make don't
Speaker 5: make the newspaper, don't make the newspaper doing anything.
Speaker 3: And then we went out with Dave Matthews.
Speaker 5: First night I was there and I'd never met him,
Speaker 5: and yeah, wicked sense you humor. But he didn't know
Speaker 5: he knew no sports.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know like South African, like cricket or right.
Speaker 3: Don't you think he knew No, No, I don't think
Speaker 3: he knew anything.
Speaker 5: Now Ertie L's guy, but he he goes, yeah, I
Speaker 5: guess you're the sports guy. I go, yeah, I'm Sandler
Speaker 5: would always introduce me as the sports guy to Anniston. Hey,
Speaker 5: this is Danny's the sports guy. Kidman didn't care. She
Speaker 5: couldn't care less about me. But I'm sitting down at
Speaker 5: a large picnic table at a restaurant and I went
Speaker 5: to I'm across from Dave Matthews and I reach out
Speaker 5: to shake his hand. I knock my beer over into
Speaker 5: his lap and he goes, wow, that's quite an introduction.
Speaker 5: And he was. He was great. He was so much fun.
Speaker 5: Like he would always walk up to me and he goes,
Speaker 5: you're pretty tall. How tall are you? Well, they in
Speaker 5: the movie there's a scene where he says something about
Speaker 5: that guy up there on stage is pretty tall. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was just Sandler left it in there. Uh. Aniston
Speaker 5: was wonderful, spectacular, funny, gorgeous, nicole kidmun had just had
Speaker 5: a baby, and she was in incredible shape. But she
Speaker 5: was an actress. Yeah, I know that's a thing like
Speaker 5: I couldn't. I couldn't go over there and seek So
Speaker 5: I was trying to prevent them from figuring out too
Speaker 5: soon that I didn't know how to act. That was
Speaker 5: my goal, and it didn't take long before Kidman's you know,
Speaker 5: sizing me up and realizing this guy is not an actor.
Speaker 5: Anniston may have been a little more generous, but I thought, God,
Speaker 5: if I ever get a loan with Kidman, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Going to have anything to say.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm thinking, I'm not going to be, you know,
Speaker 5: off the set, you know, talking to her. I'm in
Speaker 5: the green room of sorts for actors who were ready
Speaker 5: to do their scene or waiting to do their scene.
Speaker 5: I walk in and Sandler's bulldog is in there, and
Speaker 5: you know, some sporting eventison, So I said, got Sandler's
Speaker 5: Bulldog with me, and Nicole Kidman walks in. Well, it's
Speaker 5: one of those where you walk in a room and
Speaker 5: you hope somebody doesn't see you and then they walk
Speaker 5: back out. But she walked in and then we made
Speaker 5: eye contact, so she had to stay. So she comes
Speaker 5: over and sits down. Nothing's being said, it's it's it's
Speaker 5: excruciatingly quiet, and I just and my daughter said, hey,
Speaker 5: if you ever want to bring up something an icebreaker
Speaker 5: for Nicole Kidman, I've got one. You know, I'm born
Speaker 5: on the same day as her daughter, and I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 5: if I ever need it, it's in my back pocket. Well,
Speaker 5: first thing I say to her is, hey, you know
Speaker 5: I have my daughter is born on the same day
Speaker 5: as your daughter.
Speaker 3: And she goes, Oh, that's wonderful.
Speaker 5: That's it, that's it. We we had, we had nothing,
Speaker 5: we had nothing. Well, a couple of days later, Keith Urban,
Speaker 5: her husband, comes to the set.
Speaker 3: He sees me. He wants to talk about the.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and her look on her face is like, you
Speaker 5: know this guy and all you want to do is
Speaker 5: talk about Tennessee Titans. But Sandman does have you know,
Speaker 5: it's it's usually good locations and fun people, and it's
Speaker 5: you get things done, but it's you know, you're having
Speaker 5: fun along the way.
Speaker 3: That's really important.
Speaker 1: We only have a few more minutes, but they want
Speaker 1: to ask you a couple couple other quick ones here,
Speaker 1: because the Sandler connection is one thing. But you've also
Speaker 1: been on The Simpsons before, and I think that's a
Speaker 1: good segue to the book. How does this book come
Speaker 1: together and you're experience to the Simpsons, what's the connection.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: Joel Cohen, who co wrote this with me, is one
Speaker 5: of the head writers on The Simpsons and he reached
Speaker 5: out to me and said, hey, we have an episode
Speaker 5: where we need an announcer and it's Homers involved in
Speaker 5: a rock skipping contest and yeah, and so I said, oh,
Speaker 5: I'd be honored. I'd love it, and he said, all
Speaker 5: you know, I'll set up the script and we'll do
Speaker 5: us some kind of moment here where we recorded. I
Speaker 5: go okay, and he goes, you know, while I have you,
Speaker 5: how do we fix the Jets? And I go, well,
Speaker 5: how much time do you have? And he goes, no,
Speaker 5: I think I can fix the Jets. And then he
Speaker 5: brought up the butt fumble.
Speaker 3: Why is it?
Speaker 5: You know, all the blame goes to Mark Sanchez and
Speaker 5: not the offensive lineman who was blown up by Vince Wilford.
Speaker 5: So these were things that were bothering him. And then
Speaker 5: you know, he would talk about the Patriot mascot hat
Speaker 5: the Patriot like all of these things. He goes, I
Speaker 5: don't have an outlet like you do, and I go
Speaker 5: and then I threw a couple of things back at him,
Speaker 5: and then it was I liken it too. It was
Speaker 5: verbal tennis match where we're just throwing things back together,
Speaker 5: and he said, I'm going to write these down. He goes,
Speaker 5: would you want to write a book? And I'm thinking sure,
Speaker 5: like yeah, and then I didn't realize but he said
Speaker 5: he sent some stuff back. He goes, all right, this
Speaker 5: is what you said this when I said, and I
Speaker 5: think we got somebody who will publish this book.
Speaker 3: And I go, what, whoa why? What? I go?
Speaker 5: Does America need this? He goes, well, football books are
Speaker 5: always serious. They're about men, they're about you know, integrity,
Speaker 5: the Yeah, they're gladiators. And he said, let's just have fun,
Speaker 5: you know, like, let's talk about Ken Stabler smoking bacon
Speaker 5: wrapped cigarettes like you know, that's his diet. Let's let's
Speaker 5: compare Tom Brady's diet to Ken Stable. I said, all right,
Speaker 5: I said I I And he goes, we don't have
Speaker 5: to be accurate. That's you know, it's the occasionally accurate.
Speaker 5: So we're not burden by truth. We don't, but we
Speaker 5: we do represent every team. We look at the decades,
Speaker 5: we look at football, what it'll be like in twenty
Speaker 5: seventy three.
Speaker 3: And it was just it was just fun.
Speaker 5: He's an extremely bright guy and it just made the
Speaker 5: process so much more enjoyable. And then I do the
Speaker 5: audio version so if you want to bedtime story, I
Speaker 5: can read this to you.
Speaker 3: And that was a fun problem.
Speaker 5: Like we have something on Nipplegate with Justin Timberlake, and
Speaker 5: there were two of them that I and Andy Richter
Speaker 5: wrote a story. Part of the chapter Conan's Sidekick. And
Speaker 5: then Joel started telling his friends. So his friends go, hey,
Speaker 5: I got it. I got a story. So I mean
Speaker 5: I was like, I can't turn this down. I'm going
Speaker 5: to write a book, but everybody else is going to
Speaker 5: write the book for me. And you know, we just
Speaker 5: sort of there was nothing that was off limits. We
Speaker 5: just thought there would be something. If something was funnier,
Speaker 5: then we took out something. But it was it's been rewarding,
Speaker 5: it's been enjoyable, and you know, Joel has become a
Speaker 5: friend as a result.
Speaker 1: And it's in black and white, right, and it aesthetically
Speaker 1: looks really cool. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: We do like the Wizinator Ontario Smith.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember on Tara Smith Vikings running back. Couldn't
Speaker 1: do that airport, that's unfortunate.
Speaker 5: We fix we fix penalties. Uh, let's see things you
Speaker 5: don't bring to a tailgate. We made the Immaculate Reception
Speaker 5: a sermon we do talk about.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: We have people who critique me in the media if
Speaker 5: I'm any good, and so there's trash talk. I mean,
Speaker 5: there's there's there's quite a few things in the book,
Speaker 5: but it's it's meant to be tongue in cheek, but uh,
Speaker 5: and hopefully people take it that way. But it was
Speaker 5: and every team is represented, and some of the best
Speaker 5: players who have played for these teams. We have fun
Speaker 5: at their expense.
Speaker 1: Uh. In closing, I got this podcast here as like
Speaker 1: a second or third gig, and I love it. It's
Speaker 1: like my own name on it. It's the first thing
Speaker 1: I've had that. It seems like everyone's got a podcast.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks they can be Dan Patrick. You've seen the
Speaker 1: explosion of podcasts, and you know the explosion of McAfee
Speaker 1: and you name it. Now there's you go on your
Speaker 1: Twitter feed and it's a different young woman touting gambling
Speaker 1: tips and it's her own show. Like it's everywhere. It's
Speaker 1: become an explosion of talent facing like here's my takes
Speaker 1: on this and that, and there's an audience for it.
Speaker 1: Did you ever imagine it could explode like this and
Speaker 1: our industry would go down this direction?
Speaker 5: Well, yes and no, because if you could do a
Speaker 5: twenty four hour, seven day a week sports channel, and
Speaker 5: then another twenty four hour day, seven day a week
Speaker 5: sports channel, and then another, then yes that the explosion
Speaker 5: could be there because there's only so many radio outlets
Speaker 5: for people. Now, you give them an opportunity to have
Speaker 5: their view of a certain sport or sports or whatever
Speaker 5: it might be. I just worry that and it's going
Speaker 5: to sound like, get off my launch, Oh, let's go,
Speaker 5: I'm trying the same boat journalism. Yeah, that's because everybody thinks,
Speaker 5: where in the mid nineties got to have a catchphrase
Speaker 5: to be a sportscaster, now have to have a hot
Speaker 5: take to be a sportscaster podcaster. I just want to
Speaker 5: make sure that because a lot of people will be
Speaker 5: loose with language. They'll say, you know, I'm hearing or
Speaker 5: and I'm hearing gets left out where Peter Schreger says,
Speaker 5: you could say, hey, I'm hearing, and then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden it's no Peter Schreger says that the Raiders
Speaker 5: are moving on from Devonte Adams. Sure they don't listen
Speaker 5: all the way and therefore it becomes his story. And
Speaker 5: I always caution, my students, have a source. Don't be
Speaker 5: afraid to have a second source. When we were on ESPN,
Speaker 5: we had to have two sources if you had a story.
Speaker 5: And as crazy as this is going to sound, I
Speaker 5: was on vacation with my wife and sitting next to
Speaker 5: us was Tony Dungee's agent, and he said, hey, did
Speaker 5: you hear that Tony's going to get the Tampa Bay job?
Speaker 5: And I go no, he said no, I'm on vacation,
Speaker 5: and I thought, well, let me call into the assignment desk.
Speaker 5: I called him the assignment desk and they it might
Speaker 5: have been Steve Perrisman was the guy maybe, and I
Speaker 5: just remember he needed another source.
Speaker 1: You're like, god, no, no, no.
Speaker 5: The agent just but I couldn't tell him that I'm
Speaker 5: getting it from the agent because the agent said, don't
Speaker 5: attach my name, and I'm going I have an unbelievable source.
Speaker 5: And then he said I need a second source. They
Speaker 5: got a hold of Andrea Kramer, and Andrea was able
Speaker 5: to confirm it, and then Andrea, I think, broke the news.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I'm on vacation.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what this news.
Speaker 3: I'm not an insider.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, hey, Tony's gonna get the job with
Speaker 5: the buccaneer, and I just remember, it's like, Holy, I
Speaker 5: don't want to work this hard at a story I
Speaker 5: won't get credit for.
Speaker 3: I don't want credit for it.
Speaker 5: I want credit for But you know, I caution those
Speaker 5: who do it that don't don't be afraid if you're
Speaker 5: going to say something that you have something to back
Speaker 5: it up, because everybody can do the following. Oh, you know,
Speaker 5: a source told me. Why don't have to tell you
Speaker 5: my source? But you hope that people are still going
Speaker 5: through the process. And look, I came up with CNN,
Speaker 5: and this is the way you did it, and I'm
Speaker 5: going to go out that way. You can't be loose
Speaker 5: with Oh I'm hearing.
Speaker 1: Well. I feel fortunate enough that I spent twenty years
Speaker 1: having to do sources and that by the time I
Speaker 1: say something on air, you're not questioning that process. A
Speaker 1: lot of times now, I see people saying stuff on
Speaker 1: air online I don't know who this person is. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what this Twitter handle is. I don't
Speaker 1: know where to believe it or not, and the check
Speaker 1: marks are all ascue, so I can't. So it's very complicated,
Speaker 1: especially you know when it talks to off season stuff
Speaker 1: and trades and numerous because then I'll hear from the
Speaker 1: GMS and coaches and be like, I read this from
Speaker 1: this Twitter feed. I'm like, I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: who that is. I don't even know who the person
Speaker 1: is behind that. Someone said it, well, this is the
Speaker 1: era of anonymous reporters.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's another thing where you're going, I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't know who the reporter is, but they're breaking
Speaker 5: this story on Tom Brady and then you have to
Speaker 5: follow that story and then you have to figure out
Speaker 5: is it true or not?
Speaker 1: And it's a real person.
Speaker 5: Yes, and if somebody has an opinion. We had Rick
Speaker 5: neuheiseel on and I said, where's Jim Harbaugh on a year?
Speaker 5: He said he'll be in the NFL. Well, that's just
Speaker 5: his opinion. It's not like he's reporting that. That's not
Speaker 5: Bruce Feldman saying, yes, it's Rick Neuheisel said he thinks Jim.
Speaker 3: But that's how it.
Speaker 5: When we think that people go, they'll obviously know that Hey,
Speaker 5: I'm saying this in jest or I'm just telling you
Speaker 5: something that's my opinion. It becomes you know, the truth,
Speaker 5: and then it's out there and then all of a
Speaker 5: sudden people run with it and you're like, hold on,
Speaker 5: like you can't bring it back. And I hope that
Speaker 5: people who do this understand you can have a hot take.
Speaker 5: I like to have an informed take. It may not
Speaker 5: be hot, but if it's warm, great, I hope it's accurate.
Speaker 3: More importantly, you're amazing.
Speaker 1: You're awesome. I feel like we could do a part
Speaker 1: two and we haven't even talked about your interview prowess.
Speaker 3: And we can do a part two whenever you want to.
Speaker 1: People do it, So appreciate your time. Guys, everyone who's listening.
Speaker 3: The Jamie Jamie's pregnant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamie's prego.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: She told us that a couple of weeks ago. We're like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's amazing, and she's like, but I don't know how
Speaker 1: to reveal to the audience. So today on Halloween, she
Speaker 1: dresses Rihanna, who of course performed the Half of Me,
Speaker 1: and then she kind of dropped the bomb on the
Speaker 1: audience and is like and yeah, just like Rihanna, I'm pregnant.
Speaker 1: And they're like, okay, Yeah, she's awesome by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 1: amazing teammate.
Speaker 5: I never met her, and I've talked to Kyle before,
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, his angry runs are epic. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I worry that he's Yes, something's going to happen, He's
Speaker 5: not a something's gonna burst.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Dan Patrick. Such a thrill. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for doing the show.
Speaker 3: Man, Peter, thank you, and I'll be watching.
Speaker 1: Aaron Dan Patrick as good as advertised, maybe better? Was
Speaker 1: that not awesome? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't think I've heard him speak so
Speaker 2: casually and openly about like a bunch of historical not historical,
Speaker 2: but like the glory days of Sports Center, and like
Speaker 2: that was I loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. There was that giant ESPN book that
Speaker 1: James Andrew Miller wrote, and I'm maybe Patrick shared that
Speaker 1: in there. But like when he starts talking about the
Speaker 1: stuff with bosses and the bigger than the brand, that's
Speaker 1: all news to me. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm a big fan,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's a thrill for me. Obviously I
Speaker 1: was s geeking out. I felt like Chris Farley, like
Speaker 1: what was it? Like, you know, he's talking to Paul McCartney.
Speaker 1: That was it. The book I'll get, I'll read, I'll
Speaker 1: probably listen to it. I like Dan's voice, I'll listen
Speaker 1: to it. But that was cool, and this podcast was cool.
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Speaker 1: the Microphones from iHeartRadio. He's a very very very vocal
Speaker 1: part of this podcast in the direction it goes, and
Speaker 1: all in good ways. As far as all the guys
Speaker 1: in LA we meant to say it, Aaron. Oddly enough, Shepherd,
Speaker 1: you did not hold up their end of the bargain.
Speaker 1: They lost. But Arizona, which is the secondary team where
Speaker 1: our executives Jason Kleinman and Matt Schneider are proud alums,
Speaker 1: they did a major upset victory on would they beat
Speaker 1: Washington or was it Oregon State? They beat a massive
Speaker 1: number eleven team, so they did their job. But the
Speaker 1: Shepherd guys and my man Ernie McCook just didn't get
Speaker 1: the job done. So we got one out of two
Speaker 1: this weekend, real quick, Aeron, I think think I might
Speaker 1: go to USC Washington. It's homecoming at USC in Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: Kingsbury invited me to go as a guest to his
Speaker 1: but if I'm being completely honest. I probably am not
Speaker 1: gonna go. Seems like a lot of work. I gotta
Speaker 1: If I go to a college football game, I got
Speaker 1: a drink and then I get to there and it's
Speaker 1: like I'm always constantly checking my phone, Like I want
Speaker 1: to go home. I've got a show in a four
Speaker 1: am wake up. Maybe I'll tell Cliff I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: and I'll just lie to him and watch it on TV.
Speaker 1: How does that sound?
Speaker 2: No, you can't do fat.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know. He's gonna be busy. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what his job is with the USC. He's like
Speaker 1: involved with the offense, but he's not the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: He's not the head coach. But not I would only
Speaker 1: go for the pregame and just say hello to him,
Speaker 1: and then I would peace. But I do want to
Speaker 1: see Kayleb Williams warm up and Pennix too. All Right,
Speaker 1: I'm wasting too much time. Thank you everyone for listening.
Speaker 1: It's Halloween. I'm gonna go trick or treat uh enjoy yourselves,
Speaker 1: Please be safe and we'll see you next week. The
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