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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreeger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another episode of the Season with Peter Schreger. We are

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Speaker 1: recording this on Halloween Tuesday morning. It is trade deadline

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Speaker 1: day as well, so we're not gonna get too much

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Speaker 1: into potential transactions or transactions that might happen, because by

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Speaker 1: the time you listen to this, it's gonna be already done.

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Speaker 1: But if you listen to this podcast, you know it's

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Speaker 1: been an ongoing couple weeks where I've been previewing and

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Speaker 1: giving out a little bit of information about my Celebrity

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Speaker 1: Jeopardy appearance. Now that it aired last Wednesday, the cat

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Speaker 1: is out of the bag and I promise not to

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Speaker 1: mention it every week for the rest of my life. However,

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Speaker 1: my two beautiful producers slash executives on this podcast are

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Speaker 1: both on with me now. Aaron Wankof's been the greatest

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Speaker 1: producer in the game, and Jason English, who is in

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Speaker 1: that studio every single week with us, is from the

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Speaker 1: iHeart team. I wanted to open up the phones and

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Speaker 1: open up the lines and allow you guys to more

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Speaker 1: or less ask me anything you might have as questions,

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Speaker 1: but also serve as a press conference of sorts. I

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Speaker 1: will start with this though for the listener who has

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Speaker 1: not watched the episode. It was myself, Mira, Sorvino, and

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Speaker 1: Adam Rodriguez, who is an actor. We went down to

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Speaker 1: the final Jeopardy question. Servino had a small edge on me.

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Speaker 1: I bet just about everything and Sorvino bet everything and

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Speaker 1: we both got it right and she won. I will

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Speaker 1: give you some behind the music though now as I

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Speaker 1: think it does pertain to some of your questions, and

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Speaker 1: we'll get into all of it. If you watched, you

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Speaker 1: the nitty gritty depending on Aaron and Jason's questions. But

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Speaker 1: here is the backstory of Final Jeopardy if you watched.

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Speaker 1: So we go into the last couple questions and Servino

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Speaker 1: got like a one thousand or a fifteen hundred dollar

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Speaker 1: she had, I want to say, like a thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: can get it right. The topic comes up and it's

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Speaker 1: tween Lit. My heart sinks. Here's the process of how

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Speaker 1: it works in real life, just as you see on TV.

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Speaker 1: You get that final topic, they give you thirty seconds

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Speaker 1: to write in your wager. So she's up a thousand

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Speaker 1: on me. I'm like tween Lit. I'm like, like, they

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Speaker 1: couldn't give me Arizona Cardinals wide receivers. They couldn't give

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Speaker 1: me like nineteen eighties Van Damn movies. I would have

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Speaker 1: good tween Lit as much as I'm a pop culture guy.

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Speaker 1: and I would like the Jeopardy producers to hear this,

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Speaker 1: Mira Cervino has multiple teenage children sitting in the first

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Speaker 1: the Hunger Games? I didn't read any of these books.

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Speaker 1: Games Collins, Suzanne Collins, this is just walking by a

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Speaker 1: Hudson nudes. Then I'm like, all right, what the It's

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Speaker 2: It's Edward and Jacob and it's Stephanie Meyers. It's Stephanie.

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Abrams. Like the Georgia political like in the Democratic

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Speaker 1: I would have gotten that one all along. So Stephanie Abrams,

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Speaker 4: its celebrity Jeopardy, and I said, meet Lacunas for the

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Serveno's got these kids, and I'm like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I just said I'll bet just about everything.

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Speaker 1: is correct, Peter, how much did you wager? Seventy two hundred?

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Speaker 1: And you want to say hello to Melon Betty? And

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Speaker 1: She comes out and she's like, who is Judy Bloom?

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Speaker 1: And she is right? And she bet it all so

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Speaker 1: she was nervous about me, which I liked. She bet

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Speaker 1: night knowing I played a great game. I also can

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Speaker 1: she met all of hers. In closing, Michael Davies, the

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Speaker 1: million other shows, Watch What's Happening Live and Good Morning Football,

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Speaker 1: all these things. He has put in this thing for

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Speaker 1: Jeopardy Now where you can go online and look up

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Speaker 1: the stats how many times you've buzzed right, how many

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Speaker 1: Every It was about fungus and a web, and everyone

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Speaker 1: dark web it's like porn and like child like disgusting things.

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Speaker 1: I got it wrong. It cost me fifteen hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: I was in a funk after that, and I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: Celebrity Jeopardy. I have no regrets. I did it so

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Speaker 1: I got nineteen right, three wrong. Sorvino got like twenty

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Speaker 1: I will I will do hats off to mirror Servena.

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Speaker 1: She kicked my ass in Jeopardy at the last second,

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Speaker 1: and she did so by being better on the buzzer.

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Speaker 1: She was a worthy opponent. I am proud of her.

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Speaker 1: We have not said a word to each other since

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Speaker 1: and watching it back, she had kind of a snide

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Speaker 1: comment after I guessed who is Debbie Gibson, like she

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Speaker 1: was surprised that I would know Debbie Gibson. Mira, please, well,

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Speaker 1: you were starring in Oscar winning films. I was in

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Speaker 1: but to Tiffany, to Sina Easton, to Blinda Carlisle, to

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Speaker 1: the Bengals. I go deep on pop music. That was

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Speaker 1: start with you on a press conference. I will call

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Speaker 1: on you guys, ask me anything. We'll start. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: the Jeopardy experience.

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Speaker 2: I love that I was I think, I was telling

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Speaker 2: Shane afterwards, I have never felt more strong. I was

428
00:21:27,386 --> 00:21:29,106
Speaker 2: like it was like rooting for a sports team. There

429
00:21:29,186 --> 00:21:31,306
Speaker 2: was one dog in particular I wanted to win, and

430
00:21:31,346 --> 00:21:31,826
Speaker 2: they did win.

431
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Speaker 1: What did the dog go?

432
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Speaker 2: As David Byrne in the oversized suit?

433
00:21:37,426 --> 00:21:38,506
Speaker 1: It was making sense?

434
00:21:40,066 --> 00:21:41,266
Speaker 3: It was so good.

435
00:21:42,466 --> 00:21:45,786
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like, I truly have never loved a costume

436
00:21:45,826 --> 00:21:49,066
Speaker 2: like that. And then I went as Carmi from the Bear.

437
00:21:49,386 --> 00:21:51,546
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, great, Why Carmie?

438
00:21:51,546 --> 00:21:51,826
Speaker 6: Why not?

439
00:21:51,866 --> 00:21:55,706
Speaker 1: Why not still have my temporary tattoo on? Nice? Why

440
00:21:55,786 --> 00:21:58,226
Speaker 1: not Richie? Too deep cut? You like Carmi?

441
00:21:58,706 --> 00:22:02,266
Speaker 2: I had the equipment for Carmi a little bit easier,

442
00:22:02,306 --> 00:22:02,666
Speaker 2: I think.

443
00:22:02,906 --> 00:22:05,626
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I would have I would have gone.

444
00:22:05,626 --> 00:22:08,506
Speaker 1: It was his name, fac Hodagan. What was his name,

445
00:22:08,506 --> 00:22:10,826
Speaker 1: Mattie Matheson? What was his character? He was great? I

446
00:22:10,826 --> 00:22:14,226
Speaker 1: love him in the back. All right. One more thing

447
00:22:14,586 --> 00:22:18,626
Speaker 1: I have This year, I've been in devouring books on

448
00:22:18,706 --> 00:22:21,746
Speaker 1: my flights to LA and back. I've read the Michael

449
00:22:21,826 --> 00:22:27,786
Speaker 1: Lewis book about SBF. I've read the Isaacson one on Musk.

450
00:22:27,826 --> 00:22:30,826
Speaker 1: I'm reading all the stuff that's out. I'm I have

451
00:22:30,866 --> 00:22:35,466
Speaker 1: to make a recommendation everybody read the John Stamos memoir.

452
00:22:36,066 --> 00:22:38,306
Speaker 1: It just came out. There's been a lot of press

453
00:22:38,346 --> 00:22:40,666
Speaker 1: about some of the things he says about his marriage

454
00:22:40,706 --> 00:22:44,266
Speaker 1: to Rebecca Romaine. Don't be sidetracked by that being what

455
00:22:44,306 --> 00:22:47,706
Speaker 1: this is. This is a true Hollywood story. He goes

456
00:22:47,786 --> 00:22:51,786
Speaker 1: from a kid working the griddle at his dad's Greek

457
00:22:51,906 --> 00:22:56,466
Speaker 1: diner in I want to say, like Irvine, California, to

458
00:22:56,546 --> 00:23:00,346
Speaker 1: being a soap opera star in the eighties on General Hospital,

459
00:23:00,786 --> 00:23:04,386
Speaker 1: to then going to full House, to then a movie

460
00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:07,946
Speaker 1: career to then er and all the way in between.

461
00:23:07,986 --> 00:23:12,546
Speaker 1: He's got stories about hanging with Don Rickles and Frank Sinatra,

462
00:23:13,106 --> 00:23:16,466
Speaker 1: and his relationship with Saggot and Dave Coolier and the

463
00:23:16,546 --> 00:23:20,626
Speaker 1: Olsen twins, and then there's some really like honest and

464
00:23:20,706 --> 00:23:24,226
Speaker 1: vulnerable stuff about marrying a woman who at the time

465
00:23:24,586 --> 00:23:27,386
Speaker 1: was a model, and then after he married her went

466
00:23:27,386 --> 00:23:30,306
Speaker 1: on to be the swimsuit Model of the Year Starr

467
00:23:30,306 --> 00:23:33,586
Speaker 1: in the X Men movies and had a giant, giant

468
00:23:33,626 --> 00:23:36,386
Speaker 1: career while his career kind of the took to the

469
00:23:36,426 --> 00:23:38,346
Speaker 1: back burner. And I thought Stamos in this book is

470
00:23:38,386 --> 00:23:41,586
Speaker 1: incredibly He's vulnerable and basically says she emasculated him and

471
00:23:41,666 --> 00:23:44,146
Speaker 1: her career was such a force in his world that

472
00:23:44,346 --> 00:23:47,306
Speaker 1: you know he couldn't live with it. And then he

473
00:23:47,466 --> 00:23:50,466
Speaker 1: goes into what he discovered on her and how do

474
00:23:50,506 --> 00:23:53,386
Speaker 1: you lift yourself back up? But like, great stuff about

475
00:23:53,626 --> 00:23:56,306
Speaker 1: him and his father's relationship, great stuff about him and

476
00:23:56,386 --> 00:23:59,866
Speaker 1: Saggot's relationship. I gotta tell you, I didn't expect to

477
00:23:59,866 --> 00:24:02,666
Speaker 1: be crying at the end of a John Stamos memoir,

478
00:24:03,266 --> 00:24:06,066
Speaker 1: but that is my recommendation to all of you. Stamos

479
00:24:06,066 --> 00:24:07,826
Speaker 1: is new. I don't even have the name of it. Aaron,

480
00:24:07,866 --> 00:24:09,426
Speaker 1: do you have the name out there, because I'd like

481
00:24:09,466 --> 00:24:10,266
Speaker 1: to pass it along.

482
00:24:10,946 --> 00:24:13,666
Speaker 2: Yeah. His memoir is called if you would have told me.

483
00:24:14,306 --> 00:24:16,706
Speaker 1: If you would have told me, it's fantastic. So everyone,

484
00:24:17,066 --> 00:24:19,226
Speaker 1: I promise you will not be disappointed. My favorite book

485
00:24:19,266 --> 00:24:22,026
Speaker 1: of all time is a memoir. It's Andrea Agassi's Open

486
00:24:23,066 --> 00:24:26,546
Speaker 1: I also think Matthew Perry's Last Year Very Appropriate Now

487
00:24:26,826 --> 00:24:30,106
Speaker 1: was incredibly well written and well done and great stories

488
00:24:30,146 --> 00:24:34,106
Speaker 1: and tragic in its own way. Another celebrity memoir I've

489
00:24:34,146 --> 00:24:35,906
Speaker 1: always suggested to people if you want to read a

490
00:24:35,906 --> 00:24:38,146
Speaker 1: good one is The Kid Stays in the Picture, about

491
00:24:38,226 --> 00:24:41,026
Speaker 1: Robert Evans. And then another one that is not as

492
00:24:41,186 --> 00:24:44,386
Speaker 1: well known. Rob Lowe had a really good one about

493
00:24:44,386 --> 00:24:48,746
Speaker 1: a decade ago, and his life is even crazier than anybody.

494
00:24:48,746 --> 00:24:51,506
Speaker 1: It's with what he went through as far as celebrity

495
00:24:51,506 --> 00:24:54,146
Speaker 1: and fame goes. So all that to get to another

496
00:24:54,266 --> 00:24:57,186
Speaker 1: book author, a guest who was on here to talk

497
00:24:57,186 --> 00:24:59,906
Speaker 1: about a very cool project he's doing, but figure we'll

498
00:24:59,906 --> 00:25:02,706
Speaker 1: do a little deeper dive with him. An idol of mine, truly,

499
00:25:03,226 --> 00:25:11,186
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick joins us next. He's a hero of mine.

500
00:25:11,226 --> 00:25:14,706
Speaker 1: He's still the top of his game, and he's become

501
00:25:14,746 --> 00:25:17,066
Speaker 1: a friend and a guy that I really really do love.

502
00:25:17,226 --> 00:25:19,506
Speaker 1: Has got a new book out also, it's called The

503
00:25:19,546 --> 00:25:24,826
Speaker 1: Occasionally Accurate Annals of Football. It's with a co author,

504
00:25:24,986 --> 00:25:27,586
Speaker 1: Joel H. Cohen. But the guest on the season with

505
00:25:27,626 --> 00:25:30,666
Speaker 1: Peter Schrigger this week, it is an honor, mister Dan Patrick,

506
00:25:30,706 --> 00:25:31,586
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

507
00:25:31,746 --> 00:25:34,986
Speaker 5: Are you nervous a little bit? Okay, don't be. You're

508
00:25:35,106 --> 00:25:39,146
Speaker 5: used to being asked questions or now you're doing the asking.

509
00:25:39,746 --> 00:25:43,586
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's break the fourth wall here. Like when your

510
00:25:43,586 --> 00:25:45,546
Speaker 1: guys first asked me to come on as a guest

511
00:25:45,546 --> 00:25:48,146
Speaker 1: to your show, it was almost like being asked to

512
00:25:48,186 --> 00:25:50,346
Speaker 1: host starting a live or something. I was like, this

513
00:25:50,386 --> 00:25:53,986
Speaker 1: is I've been watching you, listening to you for much

514
00:25:54,026 --> 00:25:57,026
Speaker 1: of my life and also throughout my career, and you'd

515
00:25:57,026 --> 00:26:00,306
Speaker 1: always had everyone else, the Peter Kings and the other sports.

516
00:26:00,346 --> 00:26:01,466
Speaker 1: Right now, I was like, oh, I got the call

517
00:26:01,546 --> 00:26:03,626
Speaker 1: up to the big leagues, and I just never wanted

518
00:26:03,666 --> 00:26:05,426
Speaker 1: to myself when I was on your show. I just

519
00:26:05,466 --> 00:26:07,226
Speaker 1: wanted to always do a he's did enough job where

520
00:26:07,266 --> 00:26:09,026
Speaker 1: I can get asked back. And now I feel like

521
00:26:09,106 --> 00:26:12,626
Speaker 1: Seinfeld that the Today's Tonight's Show with Johnny I would

522
00:26:12,626 --> 00:26:14,906
Speaker 1: get the callback. And I've probably gone on like eleven times,

523
00:26:14,906 --> 00:26:17,826
Speaker 1: so it's really crazy for me to be interviewing you

524
00:26:17,906 --> 00:26:18,346
Speaker 1: right now.

525
00:26:18,746 --> 00:26:21,026
Speaker 5: I didn't know that's the goal to not yourself, but

526
00:26:21,426 --> 00:26:25,946
Speaker 5: hopefully you achieved your goal. But no, I like enthusiasm.

527
00:26:26,026 --> 00:26:29,066
Speaker 5: I like somebody who's different. You did your homework. The

528
00:26:29,986 --> 00:26:33,146
Speaker 5: Good Morning Football is a fun show, and you know

529
00:26:33,226 --> 00:26:35,706
Speaker 5: that's that's what you want. You want guests that get

530
00:26:35,746 --> 00:26:38,826
Speaker 5: your show. They can play along, and you certainly have

531
00:26:38,946 --> 00:26:40,946
Speaker 5: and that's why you know we enjoy having you on

532
00:26:41,226 --> 00:26:45,426
Speaker 5: and Kyle Brandt as well. You know, it's just getting

533
00:26:45,466 --> 00:26:47,666
Speaker 5: fun people on saying interesting things.

534
00:26:48,146 --> 00:26:51,066
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. So I'm sure you think I just

535
00:26:51,106 --> 00:26:54,746
Speaker 1: grew up watching Sports Center, but I actually before that, Like,

536
00:26:55,146 --> 00:26:58,146
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that CNN had a powerhouse

537
00:26:58,146 --> 00:27:01,946
Speaker 1: of a sports department and program like I used to

538
00:27:01,986 --> 00:27:04,146
Speaker 1: watch I think it was Nick Charles and one of

539
00:27:04,146 --> 00:27:05,466
Speaker 1: the Cellini brothers who.

540
00:27:05,386 --> 00:27:07,386
Speaker 5: Was at VINCE or whatever it was Vince, but it

541
00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:08,426
Speaker 5: was Fred Hickman and.

542
00:27:08,506 --> 00:27:11,986
Speaker 1: Fred Hickman and Nick Charles, right, and I would watch

543
00:27:12,026 --> 00:27:14,146
Speaker 1: them every night on their CNN show, and then on

544
00:27:14,186 --> 00:27:16,226
Speaker 1: the Sunday nights they would have an NBA show at

545
00:27:16,266 --> 00:27:19,146
Speaker 1: like ten thirty and it was and it had Stephen A.

546
00:27:19,186 --> 00:27:21,266
Speaker 1: Smith on it before, like Steven A. Smith was like

547
00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:24,826
Speaker 1: this national guy. But this is like mid nineties, early nineties,

548
00:27:24,866 --> 00:27:27,306
Speaker 1: and you were the dude in the late eighties early

549
00:27:27,386 --> 00:27:30,066
Speaker 1: nineties on that network that I fell in love with you. Then,

550
00:27:30,666 --> 00:27:35,506
Speaker 1: does the CNN Sports era of sports TV just get

551
00:27:35,506 --> 00:27:39,066
Speaker 1: completely overlooked in an ESPN like you know world that

552
00:27:39,066 --> 00:27:39,786
Speaker 1: we're in right now.

553
00:27:40,306 --> 00:27:43,466
Speaker 5: Yes, And I think that at the time when we

554
00:27:43,506 --> 00:27:46,546
Speaker 5: had CNN Sports, we were a better sports department than

555
00:27:46,986 --> 00:27:51,426
Speaker 5: ESPN was because we had talent. We also had really

556
00:27:51,506 --> 00:27:55,146
Speaker 5: good writers journalists. Because you had to at CNN, not

557
00:27:55,186 --> 00:27:56,906
Speaker 5: to say you didn't have it at ESPN, but I

558
00:27:56,946 --> 00:27:59,626
Speaker 5: don't think that was a priority. I think entertainment was

559
00:27:59,626 --> 00:28:04,106
Speaker 5: a priority there. And when we did our show, Nick

560
00:28:04,146 --> 00:28:06,666
Speaker 5: and Fred were as good as any team who's done it.

561
00:28:06,746 --> 00:28:07,106
Speaker 3: Awesome.

562
00:28:07,146 --> 00:28:08,546
Speaker 1: What was the show called? Do you remember what it

563
00:28:08,586 --> 00:28:08,986
Speaker 1: was called?

564
00:28:09,186 --> 00:28:10,626
Speaker 3: Just CN in Sports Tonight.

565
00:28:10,706 --> 00:28:12,266
Speaker 1: To be in Sports Tonight, and I was always like

566
00:28:12,306 --> 00:28:15,226
Speaker 1: Sports Center or CNN Sports Tonight, and then CNN Sports Tonight.

567
00:28:15,266 --> 00:28:16,066
Speaker 1: We never talked about.

568
00:28:15,866 --> 00:28:17,626
Speaker 5: Anymore, no, And there were a lot of there's a

569
00:28:17,666 --> 00:28:20,746
Speaker 5: lot of talent that came through there, and Dan Hicks,

570
00:28:20,746 --> 00:28:26,146
Speaker 5: Hannah Storm, Vince Cellini, Gary Miller, Dennis Dummler, Nick and Fred.

571
00:28:27,706 --> 00:28:29,946
Speaker 5: Those were the people that were there when I was there,

572
00:28:30,306 --> 00:28:32,546
Speaker 5: and a lot of people behind the scenes went on

573
00:28:32,586 --> 00:28:35,666
Speaker 5: to do great things. The person who started it was

574
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Speaker 5: Bill McPhail, who was the first president of CBS Sports back.

575
00:28:41,906 --> 00:28:43,786
Speaker 5: You know, he put on the you know, the greatest

576
00:28:43,786 --> 00:28:46,786
Speaker 5: game ever played with the Giants and the Cold Cults. Yes,

577
00:28:47,186 --> 00:28:49,866
Speaker 5: and he was there for the first instant replay and

578
00:28:50,146 --> 00:28:52,746
Speaker 5: you know, so he was a legendary figure. His brother

579
00:28:52,946 --> 00:28:57,226
Speaker 5: was the American League president McPhail. His dad, I think

580
00:28:58,106 --> 00:29:00,586
Speaker 5: owned the Yankee. I mean, it was great to talk

581
00:29:00,666 --> 00:29:03,506
Speaker 5: to Bill, and he ran the sports department, and I

582
00:29:03,586 --> 00:29:06,266
Speaker 5: just remember I was there for five years and I

583
00:29:06,466 --> 00:29:09,426
Speaker 5: didn't even have an agent. And what happened was I

584
00:29:09,466 --> 00:29:12,106
Speaker 5: had lost out on a weekend job in Dayton, Ohio.

585
00:29:12,946 --> 00:29:13,986
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to get it.

586
00:29:14,066 --> 00:29:17,106
Speaker 5: They gave it to Ken Kettering, who was a better

587
00:29:17,146 --> 00:29:20,466
Speaker 5: looking guys first time, like the reality hit of Oh

588
00:29:20,546 --> 00:29:23,546
Speaker 5: they may not hire the best guy, but they hired

589
00:29:23,586 --> 00:29:27,346
Speaker 5: the best looking guy, and he was. He even thought

590
00:29:27,386 --> 00:29:29,346
Speaker 5: I was going to get the job. So I'm devastated.

591
00:29:29,666 --> 00:29:31,946
Speaker 5: I'm twenty seven. I'm thinking I'm never going to get

592
00:29:31,986 --> 00:29:35,106
Speaker 5: into TV. I was doing radio morning drive radio, and

593
00:29:35,146 --> 00:29:38,266
Speaker 5: I go to Atlanta. A former girlfriend was down there

594
00:29:38,386 --> 00:29:41,386
Speaker 5: and she said, you should come down here. CNN's hiring.

595
00:29:41,426 --> 00:29:44,466
Speaker 5: I go, I couldn't get a job in Dayton, Ohio,

596
00:29:44,546 --> 00:29:46,346
Speaker 5: and now I'm going to get a job at CNN.

597
00:29:46,626 --> 00:29:48,026
Speaker 1: Ted Turner's not hiring me.

598
00:29:48,146 --> 00:29:49,466
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I go in.

599
00:29:49,826 --> 00:29:52,986
Speaker 5: I bring an audition tape, an audition tape that didn't

600
00:29:53,026 --> 00:29:54,906
Speaker 5: get me the job at Channel two and Date, and

601
00:29:54,946 --> 00:29:58,066
Speaker 5: I thought, okay. So the last day I'm there, I

602
00:29:58,106 --> 00:30:01,266
Speaker 5: don't even know the process. Peter of how to get

603
00:30:01,306 --> 00:30:05,506
Speaker 5: an interview. I have no coaching, know nothing, and I

604
00:30:05,546 --> 00:30:07,986
Speaker 5: walk in and I go to the front desk, just

605
00:30:07,986 --> 00:30:10,906
Speaker 5: like anybody else who could walk in. I said, hey,

606
00:30:11,026 --> 00:30:15,106
Speaker 5: is the person in charge of sports here? And they go, well,

607
00:30:15,106 --> 00:30:17,026
Speaker 5: who are you looking for? I go, I don't know

608
00:30:17,066 --> 00:30:19,746
Speaker 5: who's who's the head of sports? Is incredible and they go,

609
00:30:20,426 --> 00:30:23,546
Speaker 5: hold hold on, yes, I have a gentleman out here

610
00:30:23,586 --> 00:30:26,986
Speaker 5: and he wants somebody, uh in sports, and I believe

611
00:30:27,026 --> 00:30:31,786
Speaker 5: he has a resume TEP and then they go. She goes, uh,

612
00:30:32,106 --> 00:30:34,146
Speaker 5: just leave the tape and somebody will get back to you.

613
00:30:34,426 --> 00:30:37,586
Speaker 5: I go, well, I'm going back home. And then she

614
00:30:37,586 --> 00:30:41,026
Speaker 5: she called back to the sports department, goes, who.

615
00:30:40,866 --> 00:30:43,106
Speaker 1: Is this woman that's this is the light changer. This

616
00:30:43,146 --> 00:30:43,906
Speaker 1: is unbelievable.

617
00:30:44,026 --> 00:30:46,026
Speaker 5: He's going He's going back home. He wants to know

618
00:30:46,066 --> 00:30:48,786
Speaker 5: if somebody can look at it. So they said back,

619
00:30:48,946 --> 00:30:52,506
Speaker 5: she goes, where are you going? Are you driving back home?

620
00:30:52,626 --> 00:30:52,706
Speaker 3: Like?

621
00:30:52,746 --> 00:30:54,626
Speaker 5: How far away? I said, I'm going back to Ohio.

622
00:30:55,026 --> 00:30:57,226
Speaker 5: She calls back and says he's going back to Ohio.

623
00:30:58,386 --> 00:31:01,666
Speaker 5: Bill McPhail happened to be from Columbus, Ohio, come on,

624
00:31:02,626 --> 00:31:05,466
Speaker 5: and he said, have him come back because I said, oh,

625
00:31:05,466 --> 00:31:06,826
Speaker 5: I'm going back to Dayton, Ohio.

626
00:31:07,386 --> 00:31:08,026
Speaker 3: I go back.

627
00:31:08,146 --> 00:31:11,826
Speaker 5: I meet him and he puts the tape in and

628
00:31:11,946 --> 00:31:14,826
Speaker 5: he watches three and a half minutes, three and a

629
00:31:14,826 --> 00:31:17,546
Speaker 5: half of five minutes, and then he popped it out

630
00:31:17,546 --> 00:31:19,106
Speaker 5: and he goes, when can you start?

631
00:31:19,746 --> 00:31:19,906
Speaker 2: Dan?

632
00:31:19,946 --> 00:31:21,706
Speaker 1: I'm about to cry. I love this story. I've never

633
00:31:21,746 --> 00:31:23,946
Speaker 1: heard this. Have you told the story anywhere? This is incredible.

634
00:31:24,506 --> 00:31:30,986
Speaker 5: I've mentioned it. But I got hired to do headline sports. Sure,

635
00:31:31,226 --> 00:31:34,306
Speaker 5: I'm making eighteen thousand. I took a ten thousand dollars

636
00:31:34,386 --> 00:31:37,266
Speaker 5: pay cut to go to CNN. But I wanted to

637
00:31:37,306 --> 00:31:40,026
Speaker 5: do sports, and I'm doing it and I'm not even

638
00:31:40,066 --> 00:31:40,546
Speaker 5: on camera.

639
00:31:40,626 --> 00:31:42,906
Speaker 3: I'm doing headline Sports. But I loved it.

640
00:31:43,026 --> 00:31:45,586
Speaker 5: You know, I'm editing all the highlights, voicing it, and

641
00:31:45,626 --> 00:31:48,266
Speaker 5: then you you know, get it over to headline News.

642
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Speaker 5: Six months later, Keith Oberman leaves the New York bureau

643
00:31:53,506 --> 00:31:56,146
Speaker 5: at CNN to take a job in Boston, and my

644
00:31:56,266 --> 00:32:00,666
Speaker 5: boss says, have you ever been to New York? I said, oh, yeah, Now,

645
00:32:00,706 --> 00:32:03,186
Speaker 5: I had never been to New York. I'm from a

646
00:32:03,226 --> 00:32:05,826
Speaker 5: small town in Ohio. I've never been to New York.

647
00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:08,786
Speaker 5: And then they go, well, would you be interested in,

648
00:32:09,226 --> 00:32:12,266
Speaker 5: you know, being the New York Bureau reporter, replacing Keith,

649
00:32:13,186 --> 00:32:18,306
Speaker 5: and I said, yeah, I took the job. I went

650
00:32:18,506 --> 00:32:21,226
Speaker 5: and I stayed in the Downtown Athletic Club, which is

651
00:32:21,226 --> 00:32:24,386
Speaker 5: where they met. So I stayed there for three months.

652
00:32:24,386 --> 00:32:26,426
Speaker 5: I was only supposed to stay for a month, but

653
00:32:26,506 --> 00:32:29,506
Speaker 5: I was so nervous that I didn't. I didn't have

654
00:32:29,626 --> 00:32:32,586
Speaker 5: enough money to get an apartment in New York, and

655
00:32:32,866 --> 00:32:34,906
Speaker 5: so I said, can I stay a couple extra months?

656
00:32:34,946 --> 00:32:39,466
Speaker 5: And then I did at the DAC, and I remember

657
00:32:40,186 --> 00:32:42,746
Speaker 5: that I finally got an apartment. I made eight hundred

658
00:32:42,786 --> 00:32:47,306
Speaker 5: dollars a month and my apartment was five point fifty.

659
00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:51,626
Speaker 5: So I wasn't really killing it, but I was. I

660
00:32:51,706 --> 00:32:57,626
Speaker 5: was covering New York, Boston, Philly, d C. Any story

661
00:32:57,666 --> 00:33:00,666
Speaker 5: that came up. So I'm covering Larry Bird against the

662
00:33:00,746 --> 00:33:03,826
Speaker 5: Lakers in the NBA Finals. I'm covering Billy Martin with

663
00:33:03,826 --> 00:33:07,546
Speaker 5: the Yankees. I'm there with the eighties World Series with

664
00:33:07,626 --> 00:33:10,346
Speaker 5: Bill Buckner in the met I got to cover so

665
00:33:10,706 --> 00:33:15,146
Speaker 5: many great events just by being up there, and you know,

666
00:33:15,186 --> 00:33:16,466
Speaker 5: it really changed my life.

667
00:33:16,506 --> 00:33:18,466
Speaker 3: And I met my wife at CNN.

668
00:33:18,906 --> 00:33:19,826
Speaker 1: That's incredible.

669
00:33:20,106 --> 00:33:25,226
Speaker 5: And I don't encourage people to lie, but you don't

670
00:33:25,226 --> 00:33:26,466
Speaker 5: always have to tell the truth.

671
00:33:26,506 --> 00:33:27,066
Speaker 3: How about that?

672
00:33:27,426 --> 00:33:29,666
Speaker 1: And I do you think there's a message there though,

673
00:33:29,706 --> 00:33:33,826
Speaker 1: because you went to Dayton, you know, I went to Emery,

674
00:33:33,866 --> 00:33:36,026
Speaker 1: which is not exactly a hotbed for sports. I think

675
00:33:36,026 --> 00:33:38,826
Speaker 1: there's an impression amongst young people in our industry that

676
00:33:38,866 --> 00:33:41,626
Speaker 1: you have to go to Syracuse or Northwestern or USC

677
00:33:41,826 --> 00:33:45,026
Speaker 1: and there's a path. There isn't a path. You have

678
00:33:45,146 --> 00:33:48,586
Speaker 1: to be cunning. You've got to be flexible. You got

679
00:33:48,586 --> 00:33:50,866
Speaker 1: to be willing to in my case right for any

680
00:33:50,946 --> 00:33:52,866
Speaker 1: blog that would have you, and in your case move

681
00:33:52,946 --> 00:33:56,066
Speaker 1: to any city. You have all these students now at

682
00:33:56,066 --> 00:33:58,306
Speaker 1: the Full Sell like, what is your message to them

683
00:33:58,346 --> 00:33:59,666
Speaker 1: as far as getting into the.

684
00:33:59,666 --> 00:34:02,586
Speaker 5: Door, Well, what I wanted to do at Full Sale

685
00:34:02,706 --> 00:34:05,386
Speaker 5: University and they have the Dan Patrick School to sportscasting.

686
00:34:05,466 --> 00:34:09,306
Speaker 5: Your degree is in sports. Your bachelor's degree is sportscasting.

687
00:34:09,906 --> 00:34:12,466
Speaker 5: We want you to understand, you know how tough. This

688
00:34:12,706 --> 00:34:14,746
Speaker 5: is what you need to know. We want to give

689
00:34:14,786 --> 00:34:17,066
Speaker 5: you the answers before the test. But as I tell

690
00:34:17,106 --> 00:34:19,866
Speaker 5: all these students, I can get you over the wall.

691
00:34:20,666 --> 00:34:22,786
Speaker 5: Are you running when you get over? Are you walking?

692
00:34:22,826 --> 00:34:25,906
Speaker 5: Are you crawling? Because this is a. It's the most

693
00:34:25,906 --> 00:34:29,346
Speaker 5: competitive job field in America in my opinion, because everybody

694
00:34:29,386 --> 00:34:31,546
Speaker 5: thinks they can do it. Like they all sit there

695
00:34:31,546 --> 00:34:33,986
Speaker 5: and go I could do I could talk sports, Okay,

696
00:34:34,346 --> 00:34:37,586
Speaker 5: you can. What do you do after fifteen minutes when

697
00:34:37,586 --> 00:34:40,066
Speaker 5: you run out of things to say? But I tell

698
00:34:40,106 --> 00:34:42,386
Speaker 5: my students, we're going to get you ready. But it's

699
00:34:42,506 --> 00:34:45,826
Speaker 5: up to you when you go in there being professional

700
00:34:46,226 --> 00:34:49,106
Speaker 5: understanding ins and outs. You may not be on camera,

701
00:34:49,186 --> 00:34:51,986
Speaker 5: there's nothing wrong with, you know, being behind the scenes.

702
00:34:52,426 --> 00:34:54,746
Speaker 5: And I brought Gus Ramsey with me, who worked with

703
00:34:54,826 --> 00:34:58,706
Speaker 5: me at ESPN for over twenty years, and we hire

704
00:34:58,786 --> 00:35:01,306
Speaker 5: people who have been in the business. You get hands

705
00:35:01,346 --> 00:35:05,626
Speaker 5: on experience. There there is no faculty that is better

706
00:35:05,666 --> 00:35:07,666
Speaker 5: and has more experien pence than mine because we have

707
00:35:07,706 --> 00:35:11,266
Speaker 5: over two hundred factor in my experience. Then all the

708
00:35:11,266 --> 00:35:15,426
Speaker 5: people I worked with at ESPN assignment desk, reporters, producers,

709
00:35:15,986 --> 00:35:17,986
Speaker 5: you're hearing it from the people who actually did it.

710
00:35:18,346 --> 00:35:20,826
Speaker 5: And that's what I wanted them to understand. This is

711
00:35:20,866 --> 00:35:23,746
Speaker 5: the business. If you're lucky, this can be your job.

712
00:35:24,146 --> 00:35:27,786
Speaker 5: But there's a your full time your first job is

713
00:35:27,906 --> 00:35:31,066
Speaker 5: being a student at full sale university because there's no

714
00:35:31,146 --> 00:35:34,506
Speaker 5: frat parties, there's you know, it's it's not socials, it's

715
00:35:34,546 --> 00:35:35,026
Speaker 5: none of that.

716
00:35:35,506 --> 00:35:36,426
Speaker 3: You're showing up.

717
00:35:36,786 --> 00:35:39,586
Speaker 5: This is your first job, and you know it gives

718
00:35:39,626 --> 00:35:43,226
Speaker 5: them that dosa reality of how tough this is going

719
00:35:43,266 --> 00:35:46,026
Speaker 5: to be. And our job is to make it look easy.

720
00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:48,746
Speaker 5: That's why, like I wanted to do it. When I

721
00:35:48,786 --> 00:35:51,186
Speaker 5: saw Bob Constance, I go, yeah, that looks easy.

722
00:35:51,706 --> 00:35:52,026
Speaker 3: It's not.

723
00:35:52,826 --> 00:35:55,386
Speaker 5: It's those who can do it really well make it

724
00:35:55,426 --> 00:35:57,586
Speaker 5: look easy and fun. You can never have a bad

725
00:35:57,666 --> 00:35:59,466
Speaker 5: day at Sports Center. No one would let you have

726
00:35:59,506 --> 00:36:01,826
Speaker 5: a bad day, because how can you have a bad day.

727
00:36:01,866 --> 00:36:04,586
Speaker 5: You're doing Sports Center. But you can have a day.

728
00:36:05,026 --> 00:36:08,186
Speaker 5: It's just you can't let anybody know because that was

729
00:36:08,226 --> 00:36:10,506
Speaker 5: the dream job years ago.

730
00:36:10,866 --> 00:36:14,586
Speaker 1: Absolutely so much so that there was an ESPN reality

731
00:36:14,626 --> 00:36:17,626
Speaker 1: show called ESPN Dream Job And guess who stood online

732
00:36:18,946 --> 00:36:21,746
Speaker 1: with two hundred people in front of the ESPN Sportszone

733
00:36:21,746 --> 00:36:26,346
Speaker 1: in Atlanta in Buckhead and guess who. My first break was.

734
00:36:26,386 --> 00:36:29,146
Speaker 1: I wait in that line and I was wearing a

735
00:36:29,186 --> 00:36:31,466
Speaker 1: shirt that said that said I just want to meet

736
00:36:31,506 --> 00:36:34,706
Speaker 1: Bill Clement And it was the most random, like ESPN

737
00:36:34,786 --> 00:36:39,386
Speaker 1: person I could think of, the hockey guy I get

738
00:36:39,386 --> 00:36:42,346
Speaker 1: in there, I'd never done any broadcasting. They give me

739
00:36:42,386 --> 00:36:44,506
Speaker 1: a quiz and I got the quiz all right. I

740
00:36:44,546 --> 00:36:46,346
Speaker 1: got ten out of ten. And then I got pulled

741
00:36:46,386 --> 00:36:50,066
Speaker 1: aside by Howie Schwab and Al Jaffey and Howie Schwab

742
00:36:50,106 --> 00:36:52,266
Speaker 1: was the reacher and they said, what do you want

743
00:36:52,266 --> 00:36:54,746
Speaker 1: to do? I said, I'll do this show, sure, but

744
00:36:55,146 --> 00:36:57,066
Speaker 1: all I want to do is write for ESPN dot com.

745
00:36:57,106 --> 00:36:59,506
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Bill Simmons fan. I love Ralph Wilie,

746
00:36:59,626 --> 00:37:03,066
Speaker 1: I love the writing. I loved reading The Hunter s

747
00:37:03,066 --> 00:37:05,386
Speaker 1: Thompson at the time I was writing for ESPN dot com,

748
00:37:05,386 --> 00:37:07,386
Speaker 1: like I love it. I just want to chance to write.

749
00:37:07,506 --> 00:37:10,186
Speaker 1: And then they led me to a different department who

750
00:37:10,186 --> 00:37:12,826
Speaker 1: were the editors on the website, and it all happened

751
00:37:12,866 --> 00:37:15,706
Speaker 1: because I wore a terrible T shirt but stood out

752
00:37:15,946 --> 00:37:18,386
Speaker 1: and waited in that line. And that was the job

753
00:37:18,386 --> 00:37:21,746
Speaker 1: for me. Dream job for you. You go from CNN,

754
00:37:22,066 --> 00:37:25,266
Speaker 1: then you get to ESPN. I have to imagine you

755
00:37:25,266 --> 00:37:28,586
Speaker 1: go to Bristol. It's not a huge, bustling metropolis, it's

756
00:37:28,626 --> 00:37:30,626
Speaker 1: a campus. I have to imagine there's a lot of ego,

757
00:37:30,786 --> 00:37:33,626
Speaker 1: a lot of testosterone. What's the pecan order? When Dan

758
00:37:33,666 --> 00:37:36,586
Speaker 1: Patrick shows up to Bristol, Connecticut in the late eighties

759
00:37:36,626 --> 00:37:37,306
Speaker 1: early nineties.

760
00:37:37,586 --> 00:37:40,786
Speaker 5: I got there late eighties, March of eighty nine, okay,

761
00:37:41,066 --> 00:37:46,826
Speaker 5: and Chris Berman was he was basically their Mount Rushmore.

762
00:37:47,066 --> 00:37:47,266
Speaker 3: Yep.

763
00:37:47,346 --> 00:37:50,506
Speaker 5: I mean it was Chris and he probably deserved two

764
00:37:50,786 --> 00:37:54,066
Speaker 5: heads up there on Mount Rushmore, Tommy's and Bob Lee

765
00:37:54,786 --> 00:37:58,226
Speaker 5: and I got there and look, I thought what we

766
00:37:58,266 --> 00:38:00,946
Speaker 5: did at CNN was better than what they did. So

767
00:38:00,986 --> 00:38:03,466
Speaker 5: I didn't go in there intimidated from the standpoint of

768
00:38:03,986 --> 00:38:06,906
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm on equal footing. Now people

769
00:38:06,906 --> 00:38:09,946
Speaker 5: have to understand where Chris Berman was back then. I

770
00:38:09,946 --> 00:38:12,346
Speaker 5: mean without Chris you don't have a ESPN, you just

771
00:38:12,666 --> 00:38:16,146
Speaker 5: and Bob and Tom you just don't. Because they were

772
00:38:16,186 --> 00:38:18,586
Speaker 5: doing it, we didn't, you know, they probably didn't know

773
00:38:18,586 --> 00:38:21,906
Speaker 5: who's watching, how many people, like, what place they had

774
00:38:21,946 --> 00:38:22,986
Speaker 5: in somebody's life.

775
00:38:23,906 --> 00:38:28,546
Speaker 3: But I got there. They made me observe for three months.

776
00:38:28,746 --> 00:38:31,946
Speaker 1: You didn't get on air until three three months watching.

777
00:38:31,666 --> 00:38:34,626
Speaker 3: Them, and I would and I kept saying, I can

778
00:38:34,666 --> 00:38:36,466
Speaker 3: do this. I know what I don't I've done it before.

779
00:38:36,546 --> 00:38:37,066
Speaker 1: Yeah.

780
00:38:37,106 --> 00:38:40,506
Speaker 5: And what happened was I would come in and Chris

781
00:38:40,506 --> 00:38:42,666
Speaker 5: Berman would call me the Charlotte observer.

782
00:38:42,826 --> 00:38:46,026
Speaker 3: He'd go, it's this Charlotte observer.

783
00:38:46,626 --> 00:38:48,826
Speaker 5: And all I did is I would sit there from

784
00:38:48,986 --> 00:38:53,026
Speaker 5: like five in the afternoon until midnight watching them put

785
00:38:53,066 --> 00:38:57,546
Speaker 5: together you know, Sports Center. They had everybody wrote their

786
00:38:57,586 --> 00:39:00,506
Speaker 5: own scripts. And in the right corner, so we had

787
00:39:00,666 --> 00:39:03,986
Speaker 5: this wall of monitors, so all these games are up

788
00:39:04,026 --> 00:39:07,026
Speaker 5: there in the in the bottom right corner was porn.

789
00:39:08,146 --> 00:39:10,986
Speaker 5: So Porn was playing after management.

790
00:39:11,506 --> 00:39:12,866
Speaker 1: Spice Network just on.

791
00:39:13,306 --> 00:39:17,506
Speaker 5: He scrambled, and I just remembered it was right there

792
00:39:17,546 --> 00:39:19,586
Speaker 5: in the right corner. All these games are going on

793
00:39:19,666 --> 00:39:22,546
Speaker 5: and porn is in, you know, the right, bottom right

794
00:39:22,546 --> 00:39:26,106
Speaker 5: corner of it. And I go, I'm not at CNN anymore.

795
00:39:27,946 --> 00:39:31,346
Speaker 5: And I was going to do my first show, and

796
00:39:32,026 --> 00:39:33,226
Speaker 5: I don't know who was going.

797
00:39:33,146 --> 00:39:33,906
Speaker 3: To anchor with me.

798
00:39:34,106 --> 00:39:35,466
Speaker 1: Who's anchoring with you?

799
00:39:35,586 --> 00:39:40,226
Speaker 5: Chris Berman had just done the eleven o'clock. He stayed

800
00:39:40,266 --> 00:39:44,786
Speaker 5: and said, I'm doing your first show. Hell yes, And

801
00:39:44,866 --> 00:39:49,466
Speaker 5: I was so honored by that because he stayed. And

802
00:39:50,546 --> 00:39:52,906
Speaker 5: I just remember he was so loud when we got

803
00:39:52,946 --> 00:39:56,106
Speaker 5: on the air, and I even said that, I go, man,

804
00:39:56,146 --> 00:39:59,386
Speaker 5: you're loud, and he goes, you can always go back

805
00:39:59,426 --> 00:40:03,426
Speaker 5: to CNN, and I was like, all right, let's go.

806
00:40:03,786 --> 00:40:04,826
Speaker 3: I'm all in with this.

807
00:40:05,306 --> 00:40:08,346
Speaker 5: But the fact that Chris and I never forgot that,

808
00:40:08,466 --> 00:40:11,466
Speaker 5: I thought it was a wonderful gesture. And then soon

809
00:40:11,506 --> 00:40:13,786
Speaker 5: after that I started doing the eleven o'clock with Bob

810
00:40:13,866 --> 00:40:18,906
Speaker 5: Lee and stayed doing the eleven for fifteen years, and

811
00:40:18,946 --> 00:40:22,466
Speaker 5: then decided that I wanted better hours to be a

812
00:40:22,506 --> 00:40:26,226
Speaker 5: better father and husband and did the six o'clock Sports

813
00:40:26,226 --> 00:40:27,386
Speaker 5: Center the last three years.

814
00:40:27,746 --> 00:40:30,426
Speaker 1: A quick anecdote, and tell me if this lines up

815
00:40:30,466 --> 00:40:33,266
Speaker 1: with but he was larger than life at ESPN, and

816
00:40:33,306 --> 00:40:35,186
Speaker 1: he's still larger than life. We're at the Super Bowl

817
00:40:35,226 --> 00:40:37,826
Speaker 1: two years ago in LA and Kyle Brant and I

818
00:40:37,946 --> 00:40:42,386
Speaker 1: are like at SOFI Stadium on the outside campus, like

819
00:40:42,546 --> 00:40:45,106
Speaker 1: outside the stadium. Everyone's going into the stadium. We're on

820
00:40:45,146 --> 00:40:48,346
Speaker 1: the outside and a golf cart pulls by it and

821
00:40:48,346 --> 00:40:51,106
Speaker 1: this guy's wearing a I mean, and again my memory

822
00:40:51,186 --> 00:40:53,266
Speaker 1: might make it even like it's like a tall tail,

823
00:40:53,386 --> 00:40:56,506
Speaker 1: like it's Paul bunnyan or something, but a giant straw

824
00:40:56,626 --> 00:41:00,106
Speaker 1: hat in a golf cart, and I just had to

825
00:41:00,146 --> 00:41:04,346
Speaker 1: I'm like Chris Berman, and without even hesitation, he tips

826
00:41:04,386 --> 00:41:06,786
Speaker 1: the cap and just bows at us.

827
00:41:07,786 --> 00:41:07,986
Speaker 3: Yeah.

828
00:41:08,906 --> 00:41:11,426
Speaker 1: And then I've been in airports with him. You could

829
00:41:11,426 --> 00:41:15,866
Speaker 1: have Leo DiCaprio, you could have you could have Margot Robbie.

830
00:41:16,186 --> 00:41:18,786
Speaker 1: The line of people who line up to say hello

831
00:41:18,826 --> 00:41:21,426
Speaker 1: to Chris Berman is unlike anything I've ever seen, and

832
00:41:21,466 --> 00:41:22,546
Speaker 1: he's larger than life.

833
00:41:23,106 --> 00:41:27,106
Speaker 5: He's probably the first guy who connected with people so

834
00:41:27,306 --> 00:41:31,666
Speaker 5: personally because it was every night. And think about when

835
00:41:31,666 --> 00:41:34,666
Speaker 5: you watch TV at night, are you in somebody's bedroom,

836
00:41:34,706 --> 00:41:39,066
Speaker 5: their living room. I mean there is a shared intimacy

837
00:41:39,226 --> 00:41:42,346
Speaker 5: to that that he's kind of in my room with me.

838
00:41:42,426 --> 00:41:44,786
Speaker 5: He's taught you know, people would say they felt like

839
00:41:44,826 --> 00:41:47,666
Speaker 5: they knew me because I was always in their house.

840
00:41:47,946 --> 00:41:50,826
Speaker 5: They could hear my voice, and that's the power of ESPN.

841
00:41:50,906 --> 00:41:54,786
Speaker 5: But Chris is the first guy nationally who was able,

842
00:41:54,866 --> 00:41:58,146
Speaker 5: I think, to connect with people every single night, and

843
00:41:58,226 --> 00:42:00,786
Speaker 5: you know, that made him endearing to so many people.

844
00:42:01,826 --> 00:42:04,106
Speaker 1: So then eventually you and Olberman link up, and I

845
00:42:04,146 --> 00:42:07,346
Speaker 1: will tell you we called it the Big Show, and

846
00:42:08,306 --> 00:42:11,306
Speaker 1: it felt like rock and roll. Honestly, that these two

847
00:42:11,386 --> 00:42:13,746
Speaker 1: guys were, you know, the ones in the back of

848
00:42:13,786 --> 00:42:16,426
Speaker 1: the class while everyone's in a suit and tie. It

849
00:42:16,466 --> 00:42:19,706
Speaker 1: was the two of you guys making little underhanded comments.

850
00:42:19,906 --> 00:42:22,506
Speaker 1: You had inside jokes you had jokes with the viewers,

851
00:42:23,146 --> 00:42:24,786
Speaker 1: and you guys just hit it off in such a

852
00:42:24,786 --> 00:42:27,706
Speaker 1: way that at that time in my life, I'll just

853
00:42:27,786 --> 00:42:30,466
Speaker 1: you know, everything's personal with me because I'm an egomaniac,

854
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:33,026
Speaker 1: So I bring it back to me. It was Saturday

855
00:42:33,066 --> 00:42:35,666
Speaker 1: Night Live, and it was the era of Sandler and

856
00:42:35,746 --> 00:42:39,346
Speaker 1: Myers and Farley and Spade and those guys, and then

857
00:42:39,386 --> 00:42:41,506
Speaker 1: it was you guys on Sunday nights, and it was

858
00:42:41,546 --> 00:42:43,706
Speaker 1: like Saturday Night and Sunday Night. Those were my dudes.

859
00:42:44,546 --> 00:42:45,986
Speaker 1: Did it feel that way?

860
00:42:46,386 --> 00:42:46,426
Speaker 6: No?

861
00:42:46,586 --> 00:42:48,546
Speaker 1: When you were doing it, did you realize the impact

862
00:42:48,586 --> 00:42:50,066
Speaker 1: you were making on an entire generation?

863
00:42:50,786 --> 00:42:54,866
Speaker 5: We later we did. But you have to understand. Management

864
00:42:54,906 --> 00:42:58,266
Speaker 5: did not encourage us. They didn't want us to call

865
00:42:58,306 --> 00:43:02,146
Speaker 5: it the Big Show. They were worried, and you know,

866
00:43:02,426 --> 00:43:04,866
Speaker 5: a former boss of mine said, we don't want another Berman.

867
00:43:04,986 --> 00:43:06,266
Speaker 3: We don't want somebody.

868
00:43:05,906 --> 00:43:08,666
Speaker 5: Who we can control larger than the brand. Yes, and

869
00:43:08,706 --> 00:43:11,266
Speaker 5: they were worried about that, and I understand that. But

870
00:43:12,586 --> 00:43:15,226
Speaker 5: Keith and I we just sort of said, Okay, we

871
00:43:15,306 --> 00:43:17,306
Speaker 5: have to do this in a clandestine way.

872
00:43:17,986 --> 00:43:20,546
Speaker 3: That's why we had inside jokes. That's why it was sneaky.

873
00:43:20,826 --> 00:43:23,226
Speaker 5: It was never overt and I think it made for

874
00:43:23,266 --> 00:43:25,626
Speaker 5: a better show. It's like, you know when I used

875
00:43:25,626 --> 00:43:28,386
Speaker 5: to listen to Howard Stern, when you couldn't say certain

876
00:43:28,426 --> 00:43:31,586
Speaker 5: words or you couldn't show something, it made it even

877
00:43:31,666 --> 00:43:34,306
Speaker 5: more impactful. It's like, oh my god, now I can

878
00:43:34,386 --> 00:43:39,546
Speaker 5: visualize that we weren't allowed to be in front of

879
00:43:39,586 --> 00:43:42,666
Speaker 5: the product. It was you had to be sort of

880
00:43:42,786 --> 00:43:46,346
Speaker 5: pick your spots have fun with it. But Keith was

881
00:43:46,386 --> 00:43:49,986
Speaker 5: such a wonderful team player that he wanted to make

882
00:43:50,026 --> 00:43:54,666
Speaker 5: a great show every single night, every single night. And

883
00:43:54,706 --> 00:43:57,426
Speaker 5: we never took it for granted. You never mailed anything in.

884
00:43:57,506 --> 00:44:00,586
Speaker 5: It was every night and you wanted to entertain each

885
00:44:00,586 --> 00:44:03,666
Speaker 5: other that we never knew what you were going to write.

886
00:44:03,706 --> 00:44:05,946
Speaker 5: I never looked at his scripts, he never looked at mine.

887
00:44:06,546 --> 00:44:09,466
Speaker 5: Probably sixty to seventy percent of the show was AdLib

888
00:44:10,186 --> 00:44:14,826
Speaker 5: and we only had three camera people and a floor director,

889
00:44:14,866 --> 00:44:16,586
Speaker 5: and you were trying to entertain them, and we thought

890
00:44:16,586 --> 00:44:19,466
Speaker 5: if we made them laugh, then maybe the people who

891
00:44:19,506 --> 00:44:24,106
Speaker 5: were watching. But we never really knew the impact until

892
00:44:24,146 --> 00:44:26,346
Speaker 5: a little bit later on, and then Keith was only

893
00:44:26,386 --> 00:44:28,106
Speaker 5: there for I think five years.

894
00:44:28,506 --> 00:44:31,506
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was it was magic.

895
00:44:31,986 --> 00:44:36,306
Speaker 5: We never ever ever discussed why it works or let's

896
00:44:36,386 --> 00:44:40,266
Speaker 5: change something. It never we would type our scripts. Keith

897
00:44:40,306 --> 00:44:42,906
Speaker 5: would usually type his in forty five minutes, it would

898
00:44:42,906 --> 00:44:46,186
Speaker 5: take me three hours, and then we would get together.

899
00:44:47,146 --> 00:44:49,106
Speaker 5: They didn't want to they didn't want to pay for

900
00:44:49,146 --> 00:44:51,346
Speaker 5: a makeup artist, so we had to put our own

901
00:44:51,386 --> 00:44:54,306
Speaker 5: makeup on in the bathroom at ten thirty at night,

902
00:44:54,866 --> 00:44:58,106
Speaker 5: and then we'd be on the air at eleven and

903
00:44:58,146 --> 00:45:00,226
Speaker 5: then we go our separate ways. But when we got

904
00:45:00,266 --> 00:45:04,106
Speaker 5: to ESPN, we were doing a show. But that was

905
00:45:04,186 --> 00:45:07,826
Speaker 5: really the only interaction that we had. But I liked

906
00:45:07,826 --> 00:45:10,466
Speaker 5: it because we didn't waste things.

907
00:45:11,066 --> 00:45:12,346
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we.

908
00:45:12,146 --> 00:45:13,946
Speaker 1: Meet Kyle Bran, I do the same thing. We don't

909
00:45:13,986 --> 00:45:15,386
Speaker 1: ever reveal. I didn't even know what he's doing is

910
00:45:15,466 --> 00:45:17,706
Speaker 1: Halloween today, Like we don't ever reveal anything. Yeah, for

911
00:45:17,706 --> 00:45:19,306
Speaker 1: the air, say for the air, I.

912
00:45:19,346 --> 00:45:22,266
Speaker 5: Like the surprise element of it. But it was live,

913
00:45:22,946 --> 00:45:26,306
Speaker 5: and there's something about doing live. But also we would

914
00:45:26,346 --> 00:45:28,826
Speaker 5: do the highlights and the fact that we were on

915
00:45:28,906 --> 00:45:31,466
Speaker 5: at eleven o'clock at night. Let's say a game ended

916
00:45:31,666 --> 00:45:34,586
Speaker 5: at eleven o'clock or eleven oh seven. They'd have to

917
00:45:34,706 --> 00:45:36,786
Speaker 5: edit the highlights and then bring them in. We hadn't

918
00:45:36,786 --> 00:45:39,466
Speaker 5: seen them sure, so you're getting a shot sheet. Yeah,

919
00:45:39,506 --> 00:45:41,306
Speaker 5: they give me a shot sheet, they bring it in.

920
00:45:41,386 --> 00:45:43,306
Speaker 5: I'd be I can't tell you the number of times

921
00:45:43,346 --> 00:45:45,986
Speaker 5: I'd be on camera. So I'd be reading the prompter

922
00:45:46,066 --> 00:45:49,946
Speaker 5: here and I go and Cleveland hosting Milwaukee, and Kenny

923
00:45:49,986 --> 00:45:53,666
Speaker 5: Lofton is having an incredible streak. You know, he's nineteen

924
00:45:54,186 --> 00:45:56,826
Speaker 5: games in a row. I'm reaching out over here off

925
00:45:56,826 --> 00:46:00,506
Speaker 5: camera to get and let's go. Let's go to Cleveland,

926
00:46:00,706 --> 00:46:04,106
Speaker 5: you know, Municipal Stadium, boom, And then I looked down

927
00:46:04,186 --> 00:46:07,786
Speaker 5: at the shotsheet and then we start the highlights. Yeah,

928
00:46:07,826 --> 00:46:11,226
Speaker 5: and just the rush that you would have such a

929
00:46:11,306 --> 00:46:17,506
Speaker 5: though it's live and there'd be names on there, spelling henmanship,

930
00:46:17,826 --> 00:46:20,666
Speaker 5: and you'd just go, you know what. And that's why

931
00:46:20,706 --> 00:46:24,426
Speaker 5: we came up with catchphrases because it allowed you to

932
00:46:24,546 --> 00:46:28,826
Speaker 5: cheat a little bit. So if there was Greg Maddox tomorrow,

933
00:46:29,186 --> 00:46:31,786
Speaker 5: you know, three to one to Mark McGuire gone, and

934
00:46:31,826 --> 00:46:34,186
Speaker 5: then I would pause because then I could look on

935
00:46:34,226 --> 00:46:38,066
Speaker 5: the shot sheet and go, McGuire's thirty second of the year.

936
00:46:38,346 --> 00:46:41,026
Speaker 5: You know, he's got ninety four RBIs and the Cardinals

937
00:46:41,106 --> 00:46:44,426
Speaker 5: leave five three. So it allowed us to kind of

938
00:46:44,546 --> 00:46:47,306
Speaker 5: gather and then you could look at the shot sheet

939
00:46:47,386 --> 00:46:49,466
Speaker 5: and it just kind of helped. And then after a

940
00:46:49,466 --> 00:46:53,226
Speaker 5: while we sort of mocked ourselves with let's come up

941
00:46:53,266 --> 00:46:57,586
Speaker 5: with catchphrases that are so stupid because of them, it

942
00:46:57,706 --> 00:47:01,226
Speaker 5: was cow Hide joy Ride and I remember, okay, it

943
00:47:01,346 --> 00:47:03,226
Speaker 5: was a home run, and I was like, that's a

944
00:47:03,506 --> 00:47:07,386
Speaker 5: cow hide joy ride. And I remember keep going cal

945
00:47:07,746 --> 00:47:09,306
Speaker 5: like he even said it on the air. It's like,

946
00:47:09,626 --> 00:47:14,506
Speaker 5: cal height, what what? And I just I got the

947
00:47:14,506 --> 00:47:20,106
Speaker 5: biggest kick out of We wanted to make each other think, laugh,

948
00:47:20,946 --> 00:47:23,426
Speaker 5: you know, whatever emotion you could get out of somebody.

949
00:47:23,626 --> 00:47:25,986
Speaker 5: If it was a serious story, you know you wanted

950
00:47:26,626 --> 00:47:30,466
Speaker 5: you wanted that. But you know it worked. And I

951
00:47:30,466 --> 00:47:32,946
Speaker 5: remember when he left, I said, you'll never have this again.

952
00:47:33,026 --> 00:47:35,386
Speaker 5: He had gotten I think he had gotten bored. I

953
00:47:35,386 --> 00:47:38,066
Speaker 5: think he wanted a different lifestyle and he went to

954
00:47:38,146 --> 00:47:41,026
Speaker 5: Fox and I just said, you'll never get this ever again.

955
00:47:41,466 --> 00:47:44,906
Speaker 5: And you know he realized that soon after, and I

956
00:47:44,986 --> 00:47:48,106
Speaker 5: never got it back again. I had wonderful people to

957
00:47:48,226 --> 00:47:53,146
Speaker 5: anchor with, but there was nothing like that with anybody else,

958
00:47:53,266 --> 00:47:55,986
Speaker 5: just because man, when you're on that wire and there's

959
00:47:56,026 --> 00:47:58,866
Speaker 5: no net and you know you can trust that person,

960
00:47:59,586 --> 00:48:03,066
Speaker 5: you know you really build a bond, and we certainly

961
00:48:03,066 --> 00:48:03,346
Speaker 5: had that.

962
00:48:03,906 --> 00:48:08,026
Speaker 1: It's special, But then you guys crossed into like beyond

963
00:48:08,306 --> 00:48:10,626
Speaker 1: just Sports Center here, I mean the commercials which you

964
00:48:10,666 --> 00:48:13,306
Speaker 1: guys dubbed this is Sports Center. But then I think

965
00:48:13,346 --> 00:48:16,986
Speaker 1: a major moment for like back now every rapper has

966
00:48:17,106 --> 00:48:20,106
Speaker 1: athletes in their videos, and every musician is dating and

967
00:48:20,186 --> 00:48:22,506
Speaker 1: a half. It wasn't necessarily the case when you guys

968
00:48:22,506 --> 00:48:24,306
Speaker 1: were on that Hooty and the Blowfish video. That was

969
00:48:24,386 --> 00:48:26,546
Speaker 1: major for everyone, Like that was major. Can you take

970
00:48:26,626 --> 00:48:29,106
Speaker 1: us through the impetus and the genesis of that story.

971
00:48:29,466 --> 00:48:32,066
Speaker 5: Well, I'll go back to the this is Sports Center

972
00:48:32,106 --> 00:48:36,586
Speaker 5: ad campaign because that started after Keith and I got

973
00:48:36,906 --> 00:48:42,306
Speaker 5: scolded for basically trying to secede.

974
00:48:41,826 --> 00:48:42,506
Speaker 3: From the union.

975
00:48:42,866 --> 00:48:45,226
Speaker 5: Like hey, well you guys, you know, we were a

976
00:48:45,266 --> 00:48:47,706
Speaker 5: hot air balloon that was tethered, but we were still

977
00:48:47,786 --> 00:48:50,666
Speaker 5: drifting pretty high up, and I remember we got called

978
00:48:50,706 --> 00:48:54,146
Speaker 5: in and management yelled at us, I mean really yelled

979
00:48:54,186 --> 00:48:57,346
Speaker 5: at us, and I remember they didn't they wanted us

980
00:48:57,386 --> 00:49:00,226
Speaker 5: to stop calling at the big show. We wanted every

981
00:49:00,266 --> 00:49:02,786
Speaker 5: time you go to break when you're teasing things, we

982
00:49:02,826 --> 00:49:06,666
Speaker 5: want you to end with this is Sports Center. And

983
00:49:06,746 --> 00:49:08,826
Speaker 5: I remember when we came out of the meeting, and

984
00:49:10,106 --> 00:49:13,226
Speaker 5: Keith famously said, I'm shell shocked. I mean, I'm like,

985
00:49:13,666 --> 00:49:17,146
Speaker 5: I can't lose this job. I got three kids. And

986
00:49:17,226 --> 00:49:21,786
Speaker 5: so Keith goes and I go, well, yes, they're not

987
00:49:21,786 --> 00:49:24,946
Speaker 5: going to fire us. We'll say this is Sports Center.

988
00:49:25,066 --> 00:49:27,706
Speaker 5: I go, okay, So this is in the afternoon. We

989
00:49:27,746 --> 00:49:29,626
Speaker 5: have to do a show that night. I mean, imagine

990
00:49:29,906 --> 00:49:32,386
Speaker 5: how we feel we just got aired out by manager.

991
00:49:32,426 --> 00:49:33,506
Speaker 1: I've had those talks.

992
00:49:34,946 --> 00:49:38,266
Speaker 5: We get there doing the show, we go to break

993
00:49:39,066 --> 00:49:41,706
Speaker 5: after like eighteen minutes, and then you know, coming up

994
00:49:42,306 --> 00:49:47,466
Speaker 5: Da da da, and Keith goes this and Smarts Center,

995
00:49:48,626 --> 00:49:53,066
Speaker 5: and I go, all right, it's on right there. And

996
00:49:53,106 --> 00:49:55,746
Speaker 5: then they created the ad campaign. So I go to

997
00:49:55,786 --> 00:49:58,186
Speaker 5: my boss, John Walsh. I go, why don't we promote

998
00:49:58,226 --> 00:50:00,106
Speaker 5: Sports Center? He goes, we don't need to. I said,

999
00:50:00,146 --> 00:50:03,186
Speaker 5: you promote all these other shows, you know, NFL Countdown.

1000
00:50:03,826 --> 00:50:06,586
Speaker 5: And then he said, all right, we'll do an ad

1001
00:50:06,626 --> 00:50:09,906
Speaker 5: campaign and it was called this is Sports Center. We

1002
00:50:09,946 --> 00:50:12,266
Speaker 5: couldn't get any athletes to show up because you have

1003
00:50:12,306 --> 00:50:13,466
Speaker 5: to go to Bristol, Connecticut.

1004
00:50:13,826 --> 00:50:14,586
Speaker 3: They don't pay you.

1005
00:50:15,106 --> 00:50:19,066
Speaker 5: They gave you a like a donation stipend of two

1006
00:50:19,066 --> 00:50:20,586
Speaker 5: thousand dollars for charity.

1007
00:50:21,506 --> 00:50:22,746
Speaker 3: And I called Grant Hill.

1008
00:50:22,786 --> 00:50:25,266
Speaker 5: I called a lot of people, but I called Grant

1009
00:50:25,346 --> 00:50:27,786
Speaker 5: Hill and Jason Kidd, and I said, would you like

1010
00:50:27,826 --> 00:50:29,866
Speaker 5: to be in a commercial co Rookies of the Year,

1011
00:50:29,946 --> 00:50:33,786
Speaker 5: Let's go, I know, and you know it turned out

1012
00:50:34,426 --> 00:50:36,226
Speaker 5: they both were like, well, where do we have to go?

1013
00:50:36,266 --> 00:50:38,746
Speaker 5: And I go Bristol, Connecticut. What do we get paid?

1014
00:50:39,026 --> 00:50:42,546
Speaker 5: I go, well, you don't get paid, and thank god

1015
00:50:42,626 --> 00:50:46,106
Speaker 5: they did it. So Grant played the piano in the lobby.

1016
00:50:46,146 --> 00:50:48,866
Speaker 5: When I have a bad show, he's, you know, the jacket,

1017
00:50:49,106 --> 00:50:52,826
Speaker 5: the jacket over my shoulder. And then and then Jason

1018
00:50:52,906 --> 00:50:56,866
Speaker 5: Kidd we went to a helipad and he was getting

1019
00:50:56,866 --> 00:51:01,066
Speaker 5: out of a helicopter with his videotape of his game

1020
00:51:01,506 --> 00:51:04,026
Speaker 5: and here were his highlights, and then he was telling

1021
00:51:04,066 --> 00:51:06,866
Speaker 5: us what highlights those were the first two and then

1022
00:51:06,906 --> 00:51:11,186
Speaker 5: after that everybody wanted their own Sports Center commercial. And

1023
00:51:11,226 --> 00:51:15,466
Speaker 5: then I think because hooting the blowfish they had just

1024
00:51:15,506 --> 00:51:20,106
Speaker 5: broken with hold my hand yep, I actually ran into

1025
00:51:20,186 --> 00:51:24,906
Speaker 5: we crossed paths at the Masters. I've known those guys

1026
00:51:24,906 --> 00:51:30,266
Speaker 5: for it's twenty nine years now, but they were too afraid,

1027
00:51:30,346 --> 00:51:32,906
Speaker 5: nervous to say allow to me and I didn't see

1028
00:51:32,906 --> 00:51:34,906
Speaker 5: them there, but they said, you know, we walked by you,

1029
00:51:35,386 --> 00:51:37,986
Speaker 5: and I think it was the ninety four Masters, and

1030
00:51:38,666 --> 00:51:40,986
Speaker 5: they reached out and said would we like to be

1031
00:51:41,066 --> 00:51:43,786
Speaker 5: in the video. And I don't know if Keith was

1032
00:51:43,826 --> 00:51:47,746
Speaker 5: aware of them or how aware I was, and I

1033
00:51:47,826 --> 00:51:49,706
Speaker 5: knew he was going to have Dan Marino and some

1034
00:51:49,826 --> 00:51:53,666
Speaker 5: other people, and then we became friends, so i've been.

1035
00:51:54,386 --> 00:51:58,426
Speaker 5: My fortieth birthday, I went to Europe with them for

1036
00:51:58,666 --> 00:52:02,306
Speaker 5: eight days, traveling around with them London, Scotland and Ireland

1037
00:52:02,466 --> 00:52:04,866
Speaker 5: doing the shows, first time they'd been over there as

1038
00:52:04,906 --> 00:52:07,946
Speaker 5: a band. And the fiftieth they came to my house

1039
00:52:08,106 --> 00:52:12,346
Speaker 5: and performed. And then my sixtieth I went with some friends,

1040
00:52:12,386 --> 00:52:15,146
Speaker 5: my brothers and Darius and we went to Pebble Beach.

1041
00:52:15,746 --> 00:52:17,986
Speaker 5: If I'm around when I'm seventy, I'm not sure what

1042
00:52:18,066 --> 00:52:21,266
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask them to do, but they'll probably

1043
00:52:21,346 --> 00:52:23,386
Speaker 5: you know, at least Darius is going to be involved

1044
00:52:23,386 --> 00:52:25,466
Speaker 5: in it because he's he's been around for a long time,

1045
00:52:25,666 --> 00:52:26,426
Speaker 5: good friend.

1046
00:52:26,586 --> 00:52:29,746
Speaker 1: So cool. Then you get the connection with the Sandler

1047
00:52:29,786 --> 00:52:32,586
Speaker 1: guys and you're in probably like a dozen Sandler.

1048
00:52:32,266 --> 00:52:35,386
Speaker 5: Movies, twenty I think twenty or twenty one movie. It

1049
00:52:35,506 --> 00:52:38,626
Speaker 5: sounds that sounds, you know, pretentious that I don't know

1050
00:52:38,666 --> 00:52:41,746
Speaker 5: how many movies, but it's I think it's twenty I.

1051
00:52:41,666 --> 00:52:43,786
Speaker 1: Mean, and it's not just you, it's the Danet's, it's

1052
00:52:43,786 --> 00:52:44,306
Speaker 1: all the guys.

1053
00:52:44,426 --> 00:52:47,946
Speaker 3: Yes, well, he's extremely loyal as.

1054
00:52:47,866 --> 00:52:50,226
Speaker 1: Oh I can imagine. I mean, look at their guys

1055
00:52:50,226 --> 00:52:51,306
Speaker 1: in his movies, all of them.

1056
00:52:51,346 --> 00:52:53,946
Speaker 5: Yeah, he goes, Danny, once you're in, you're in, and

1057
00:52:53,986 --> 00:52:56,466
Speaker 5: I you know, it's like a mob family, Like you're in,

1058
00:52:56,546 --> 00:52:57,506
Speaker 5: you're in for life.

1059
00:52:57,546 --> 00:52:59,466
Speaker 1: What was what was the first movie you did with him?

1060
00:52:59,866 --> 00:53:03,826
Speaker 5: I did water Boy, okay, and then I told him

1061
00:53:03,826 --> 00:53:07,266
Speaker 5: I didn't want to play myself like once again hell arrogant,

1062
00:53:07,586 --> 00:53:09,546
Speaker 5: Like all good, I don't want to be myself and

1063
00:53:09,586 --> 00:53:13,706
Speaker 5: he goes, all right. Sandler goes, you're Danny mcpatrick. You're

1064
00:53:13,746 --> 00:53:15,986
Speaker 5: going to be a police officer and wear a mustache.

1065
00:53:16,186 --> 00:53:19,186
Speaker 5: And I'm in the longest yard and I'm a police

1066
00:53:19,186 --> 00:53:23,026
Speaker 5: officer wearing a mustache, and uh, we try to arrest

1067
00:53:23,026 --> 00:53:24,266
Speaker 5: Sandler at the beginning of the movie.

1068
00:53:24,466 --> 00:53:28,826
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember all of what was the that's

1069
00:53:28,946 --> 00:53:30,546
Speaker 1: that's my boy, that's my boy.

1070
00:53:30,906 --> 00:53:34,466
Speaker 5: I go, Yeah, he wanted me to be a sort

1071
00:53:34,466 --> 00:53:38,266
Speaker 5: of a Jerry Springer type guy talk show host and

1072
00:53:39,746 --> 00:53:42,426
Speaker 5: just go with it. I'm on stage with Dave Matthews,

1073
00:53:42,506 --> 00:53:46,866
Speaker 5: Jennifer Aniston, Nicole Kidman. I mean, he's he's been very

1074
00:53:46,986 --> 00:53:49,386
Speaker 5: very generous. I don't know if it's to the detriment

1075
00:53:49,426 --> 00:53:52,066
Speaker 5: of the you know, finished product, but he's been very

1076
00:53:52,146 --> 00:53:54,706
Speaker 5: very generous through the years. And he wrote the forward

1077
00:53:54,786 --> 00:53:57,986
Speaker 5: to this book. He didn't even know what a forward was,

1078
00:53:58,506 --> 00:54:02,106
Speaker 5: because I said, Sadman, can you write the forward to

1079
00:54:02,226 --> 00:54:02,786
Speaker 5: this book?

1080
00:54:03,226 --> 00:54:04,666
Speaker 3: Danny? What's a forward?

1081
00:54:04,986 --> 00:54:07,506
Speaker 5: I said, you know, the beginning the book, and you know,

1082
00:54:07,666 --> 00:54:10,186
Speaker 5: you kind of write whatever. He goes, what am I

1083
00:54:10,226 --> 00:54:12,986
Speaker 5: writing about? I said, you can write about your love

1084
00:54:13,026 --> 00:54:15,706
Speaker 5: of the Jets, all right? Can I write about how

1085
00:54:15,786 --> 00:54:17,906
Speaker 5: much I hate the Patriots? I said, yeah, yeah, go ahead.

1086
00:54:18,426 --> 00:54:19,906
Speaker 5: He goes, how long is it going to be? I

1087
00:54:19,946 --> 00:54:23,666
Speaker 5: go just go until you stop up? And he goes, Okay.

1088
00:54:24,506 --> 00:54:29,266
Speaker 5: Next day he sends me his forward, the draft, and

1089
00:54:29,306 --> 00:54:32,786
Speaker 5: then he goes there, hopefully that's what you need and

1090
00:54:32,826 --> 00:54:36,106
Speaker 5: I said, awesome, Sam Man, it'll be great. And then

1091
00:54:36,826 --> 00:54:39,786
Speaker 5: the next day he texts me he said, Danny got

1092
00:54:39,786 --> 00:54:43,066
Speaker 5: to take Tom Brady's stuff out. You know, I hated

1093
00:54:43,066 --> 00:54:45,306
Speaker 5: tom Brady because he was with the Patriots. But I

1094
00:54:45,306 --> 00:54:47,346
Speaker 5: don't want to say I hate Tom Brady now, okay,

1095
00:54:47,706 --> 00:54:49,626
Speaker 5: And then I said, yeah, we'll take it out, don't

1096
00:54:49,626 --> 00:54:51,986
Speaker 5: worry about it. So it's about his love of the Jets,

1097
00:54:52,266 --> 00:54:54,746
Speaker 5: growing up in New Hampshire, being a Jets fan.

1098
00:54:55,226 --> 00:54:55,666
Speaker 3: So good.

1099
00:54:56,466 --> 00:54:58,746
Speaker 1: They say that his sets, like when you're filming is

1100
00:54:59,226 --> 00:55:02,706
Speaker 1: he's so hospitable, he's so gracious, and it really is

1101
00:55:02,746 --> 00:55:04,626
Speaker 1: as fun as it looks, and a lot of times

1102
00:55:04,626 --> 00:55:06,186
Speaker 1: it's in some pretty cool locales. Do you have a

1103
00:55:06,226 --> 00:55:08,386
Speaker 1: good story about where you went from one of these movies?

1104
00:55:09,106 --> 00:55:10,266
Speaker 3: Well, I went to Hawaii.

1105
00:55:10,546 --> 00:55:13,266
Speaker 5: That's for just go with it, right, that was just ya,

1106
00:55:13,466 --> 00:55:16,266
Speaker 5: just go with it. And and it was a big part.

1107
00:55:16,426 --> 00:55:17,946
Speaker 5: I mean I had a big part. And I'm on

1108
00:55:18,026 --> 00:55:22,466
Speaker 5: stage with Aniston and Kidman and I remember the night

1109
00:55:23,426 --> 00:55:28,106
Speaker 5: I got I shot part of my scene. And then

1110
00:55:28,666 --> 00:55:33,106
Speaker 5: Nick Schwartzen, the comedian Minnesota guy. Yeah, so Schwarty shows up.

1111
00:55:33,146 --> 00:55:37,386
Speaker 5: He's in the movie. But he goes, uh, Danny, we're

1112
00:55:37,426 --> 00:55:40,866
Speaker 5: going drinking tonight and I'm gonna drink you under the table.

1113
00:55:40,906 --> 00:55:42,706
Speaker 3: And I said, I said, Nick, don't do that.

1114
00:55:43,946 --> 00:55:48,306
Speaker 5: And he's like, okay, yeah, you know, I said, I said, Schworty,

1115
00:55:48,826 --> 00:55:52,746
Speaker 5: I'll crush you. Well, he didn't believe me. I walk

1116
00:55:52,826 --> 00:55:57,186
Speaker 5: into the bar. It's a Tommy Bahamas bar in Hawaii,

1117
00:55:57,946 --> 00:56:02,546
Speaker 5: and he gets me a mind eraser that is in

1118
00:56:02,626 --> 00:56:06,106
Speaker 5: a tall glass and he goes and I said, I said,

1119
00:56:06,146 --> 00:56:06,706
Speaker 5: what are we doing?

1120
00:56:06,746 --> 00:56:08,666
Speaker 3: He goes, We're downing these.

1121
00:56:09,026 --> 00:56:12,706
Speaker 5: I said, wait, we're gonna take down the whole and

1122
00:56:12,746 --> 00:56:15,946
Speaker 5: he goes, yeah, And so I down a mind a

1123
00:56:16,026 --> 00:56:18,826
Speaker 5: racer and then next thing I know, there was another

1124
00:56:18,866 --> 00:56:20,946
Speaker 5: one that came over, and then another one came over

1125
00:56:21,306 --> 00:56:24,786
Speaker 5: and I go, I said, Schwarty, you know what, I

1126
00:56:25,266 --> 00:56:27,306
Speaker 5: owe it to Sandler to be ready to go tomorrow.

1127
00:56:27,386 --> 00:56:29,546
Speaker 5: And he goes, oh, are you being you want to?

1128
00:56:29,826 --> 00:56:32,946
Speaker 5: And I go all right, I said, look, if you die,

1129
00:56:33,586 --> 00:56:37,666
Speaker 5: you asked for this. This is self inflicted. Well we

1130
00:56:37,786 --> 00:56:44,706
Speaker 5: kept going. Next morning, nobody knows where Schwarty is. Afternoon,

1131
00:56:45,066 --> 00:56:49,506
Speaker 5: nobody can find Nick Schwartzen. Later in the evening, nobody's

1132
00:56:49,506 --> 00:56:54,186
Speaker 5: heard from Nick Schwartzen. I'm getting ready to shoot my scene.

1133
00:56:55,386 --> 00:57:00,626
Speaker 5: Schwartzen comes in, looks horrible, disheveled. Best yeah, I mean

1134
00:57:00,626 --> 00:57:05,506
Speaker 5: he doesn't want to go to begin with, but he goes, hey,

1135
00:57:05,826 --> 00:57:10,466
Speaker 5: come here, come here. You can't tell Sandler, you can't

1136
00:57:10,506 --> 00:57:11,866
Speaker 5: tell I said, what.

1137
00:57:11,626 --> 00:57:13,466
Speaker 3: The principal or big brother daddy.

1138
00:57:14,066 --> 00:57:17,666
Speaker 5: He got so messed up he fell asleep in the

1139
00:57:17,826 --> 00:57:23,546
Speaker 5: uh sand trap at the golf course across from the hotel. Incredible,

1140
00:57:23,626 --> 00:57:27,746
Speaker 5: lost his keys, lost his cell phone and uh no,

1141
00:57:27,826 --> 00:57:29,426
Speaker 5: he didn't lose his key, lost his cell phone so

1142
00:57:29,466 --> 00:57:31,626
Speaker 5: nobody could get in touch with it. But he comes

1143
00:57:31,666 --> 00:57:33,786
Speaker 5: in and he might have just gotten out of the

1144
00:57:33,826 --> 00:57:36,946
Speaker 5: sand trap. I just remember, I said, I said, shorty.

1145
00:57:37,226 --> 00:57:39,386
Speaker 5: He goes, You're right, I won't do it again. The

1146
00:57:39,426 --> 00:57:43,226
Speaker 5: next night we went out. He didn't have a drink. Yeah,

1147
00:57:43,266 --> 00:57:43,506
Speaker 5: you know.

1148
00:57:43,506 --> 00:57:45,066
Speaker 3: We went south to a sushi place.

1149
00:57:45,226 --> 00:57:48,706
Speaker 5: But Sandman will always say, look, just don't make don't

1150
00:57:48,746 --> 00:57:51,306
Speaker 5: make the newspaper, don't make the newspaper doing anything.

1151
00:57:51,706 --> 00:57:53,506
Speaker 3: And then we went out with Dave Matthews.

1152
00:57:54,346 --> 00:57:57,146
Speaker 5: First night I was there and I'd never met him,

1153
00:57:57,506 --> 00:58:00,546
Speaker 5: and yeah, wicked sense you humor. But he didn't know

1154
00:58:00,866 --> 00:58:01,986
Speaker 5: he knew no sports.

1155
00:58:02,066 --> 00:58:04,226
Speaker 1: He doesn't know like South African, like cricket or right.

1156
00:58:04,266 --> 00:58:06,066
Speaker 3: Don't you think he knew No, No, I don't think

1157
00:58:06,106 --> 00:58:07,226
Speaker 3: he knew anything.

1158
00:58:07,666 --> 00:58:12,546
Speaker 5: Now Ertie L's guy, but he he goes, yeah, I

1159
00:58:12,546 --> 00:58:15,466
Speaker 5: guess you're the sports guy. I go, yeah, I'm Sandler

1160
00:58:15,506 --> 00:58:18,986
Speaker 5: would always introduce me as the sports guy to Anniston. Hey,

1161
00:58:19,026 --> 00:58:22,546
Speaker 5: this is Danny's the sports guy. Kidman didn't care. She

1162
00:58:22,546 --> 00:58:26,426
Speaker 5: couldn't care less about me. But I'm sitting down at

1163
00:58:26,466 --> 00:58:29,866
Speaker 5: a large picnic table at a restaurant and I went

1164
00:58:29,906 --> 00:58:33,626
Speaker 5: to I'm across from Dave Matthews and I reach out

1165
00:58:33,666 --> 00:58:36,746
Speaker 5: to shake his hand. I knock my beer over into

1166
00:58:36,786 --> 00:58:40,026
Speaker 5: his lap and he goes, wow, that's quite an introduction.

1167
00:58:40,946 --> 00:58:44,786
Speaker 5: And he was. He was great. He was so much fun.

1168
00:58:45,306 --> 00:58:47,266
Speaker 5: Like he would always walk up to me and he goes,

1169
00:58:47,826 --> 00:58:51,106
Speaker 5: you're pretty tall. How tall are you? Well, they in

1170
00:58:51,146 --> 00:58:54,746
Speaker 5: the movie there's a scene where he says something about

1171
00:58:54,826 --> 00:58:57,826
Speaker 5: that guy up there on stage is pretty tall. Yeah,

1172
00:58:57,866 --> 00:59:01,546
Speaker 5: it was just Sandler left it in there. Uh. Aniston

1173
00:59:01,706 --> 00:59:07,226
Speaker 5: was wonderful, spectacular, funny, gorgeous, nicole kidmun had just had

1174
00:59:07,226 --> 00:59:10,026
Speaker 5: a baby, and she was in incredible shape. But she

1175
00:59:10,106 --> 00:59:12,146
Speaker 5: was an actress. Yeah, I know that's a thing like

1176
00:59:12,186 --> 00:59:15,506
Speaker 5: I couldn't. I couldn't go over there and seek So

1177
00:59:15,946 --> 00:59:20,306
Speaker 5: I was trying to prevent them from figuring out too

1178
00:59:20,346 --> 00:59:22,826
Speaker 5: soon that I didn't know how to act. That was

1179
00:59:22,866 --> 00:59:26,266
Speaker 5: my goal, and it didn't take long before Kidman's you know,

1180
00:59:26,346 --> 00:59:29,346
Speaker 5: sizing me up and realizing this guy is not an actor.

1181
00:59:29,746 --> 00:59:32,386
Speaker 5: Anniston may have been a little more generous, but I thought, God,

1182
00:59:32,426 --> 00:59:34,666
Speaker 5: if I ever get a loan with Kidman, I'm not.

1183
00:59:34,586 --> 00:59:35,826
Speaker 3: Going to have anything to say.

1184
00:59:36,066 --> 00:59:38,386
Speaker 5: Well, I'm thinking, I'm not going to be, you know,

1185
00:59:38,626 --> 00:59:40,906
Speaker 5: off the set, you know, talking to her. I'm in

1186
00:59:40,946 --> 00:59:44,706
Speaker 5: the green room of sorts for actors who were ready

1187
00:59:44,746 --> 00:59:46,706
Speaker 5: to do their scene or waiting to do their scene.

1188
00:59:46,986 --> 00:59:51,066
Speaker 5: I walk in and Sandler's bulldog is in there, and

1189
00:59:51,306 --> 00:59:54,426
Speaker 5: you know, some sporting eventison, So I said, got Sandler's

1190
00:59:54,546 --> 01:00:00,146
Speaker 5: Bulldog with me, and Nicole Kidman walks in. Well, it's

1191
01:00:00,146 --> 01:00:01,626
Speaker 5: one of those where you walk in a room and

1192
01:00:01,666 --> 01:00:03,826
Speaker 5: you hope somebody doesn't see you and then they walk

1193
01:00:03,906 --> 01:00:08,066
Speaker 5: back out. But she walked in and then we made

1194
01:00:08,066 --> 01:00:11,386
Speaker 5: eye contact, so she had to stay. So she comes

1195
01:00:11,386 --> 01:00:17,586
Speaker 5: over and sits down. Nothing's being said, it's it's it's

1196
01:00:18,426 --> 01:00:23,386
Speaker 5: excruciatingly quiet, and I just and my daughter said, hey,

1197
01:00:23,506 --> 01:00:26,026
Speaker 5: if you ever want to bring up something an icebreaker

1198
01:00:26,106 --> 01:00:29,386
Speaker 5: for Nicole Kidman, I've got one. You know, I'm born

1199
01:00:29,466 --> 01:00:32,746
Speaker 5: on the same day as her daughter, and I'm thinking, Okay,

1200
01:00:33,226 --> 01:00:36,186
Speaker 5: if I ever need it, it's in my back pocket. Well,

1201
01:00:36,826 --> 01:00:40,586
Speaker 5: first thing I say to her is, hey, you know

1202
01:00:40,586 --> 01:00:43,026
Speaker 5: I have my daughter is born on the same day

1203
01:00:43,066 --> 01:00:44,386
Speaker 5: as your daughter.

1204
01:00:44,786 --> 01:00:47,706
Speaker 3: And she goes, Oh, that's wonderful.

1205
01:00:49,906 --> 01:00:54,546
Speaker 5: That's it, that's it. We we had, we had nothing,

1206
01:00:54,666 --> 01:00:59,906
Speaker 5: we had nothing. Well, a couple of days later, Keith Urban,

1207
01:00:59,946 --> 01:01:02,546
Speaker 5: her husband, comes to the set.

1208
01:01:02,866 --> 01:01:05,386
Speaker 3: He sees me. He wants to talk about the.

1209
01:01:06,986 --> 01:01:09,386
Speaker 5: Yeah, and her look on her face is like, you

1210
01:01:09,546 --> 01:01:11,946
Speaker 5: know this guy and all you want to do is

1211
01:01:11,946 --> 01:01:15,826
Speaker 5: talk about Tennessee Titans. But Sandman does have you know,

1212
01:01:15,906 --> 01:01:20,826
Speaker 5: it's it's usually good locations and fun people, and it's

1213
01:01:21,186 --> 01:01:25,226
Speaker 5: you get things done, but it's you know, you're having

1214
01:01:25,266 --> 01:01:26,106
Speaker 5: fun along the way.

1215
01:01:26,106 --> 01:01:27,066
Speaker 3: That's really important.

1216
01:01:27,546 --> 01:01:28,826
Speaker 1: We only have a few more minutes, but they want

1217
01:01:28,826 --> 01:01:30,706
Speaker 1: to ask you a couple couple other quick ones here,

1218
01:01:30,786 --> 01:01:33,546
Speaker 1: because the Sandler connection is one thing. But you've also

1219
01:01:33,826 --> 01:01:35,986
Speaker 1: been on The Simpsons before, and I think that's a

1220
01:01:35,986 --> 01:01:38,746
Speaker 1: good segue to the book. How does this book come

1221
01:01:38,786 --> 01:01:41,666
Speaker 1: together and you're experience to the Simpsons, what's the connection.

1222
01:01:42,186 --> 01:01:42,346
Speaker 3: Well.

1223
01:01:42,466 --> 01:01:45,346
Speaker 5: Joel Cohen, who co wrote this with me, is one

1224
01:01:45,346 --> 01:01:48,666
Speaker 5: of the head writers on The Simpsons and he reached

1225
01:01:48,706 --> 01:01:52,506
Speaker 5: out to me and said, hey, we have an episode

1226
01:01:52,546 --> 01:01:56,586
Speaker 5: where we need an announcer and it's Homers involved in

1227
01:01:56,626 --> 01:02:02,426
Speaker 5: a rock skipping contest and yeah, and so I said, oh,

1228
01:02:02,466 --> 01:02:05,666
Speaker 5: I'd be honored. I'd love it, and he said, all

1229
01:02:05,866 --> 01:02:08,466
Speaker 5: you know, I'll set up the script and we'll do

1230
01:02:08,586 --> 01:02:12,586
Speaker 5: us some kind of moment here where we recorded. I

1231
01:02:12,586 --> 01:02:14,506
Speaker 5: go okay, and he goes, you know, while I have you,

1232
01:02:14,986 --> 01:02:17,706
Speaker 5: how do we fix the Jets? And I go, well,

1233
01:02:17,746 --> 01:02:19,706
Speaker 5: how much time do you have? And he goes, no,

1234
01:02:19,826 --> 01:02:22,386
Speaker 5: I think I can fix the Jets. And then he

1235
01:02:22,826 --> 01:02:23,946
Speaker 5: brought up the butt fumble.

1236
01:02:23,986 --> 01:02:24,586
Speaker 3: Why is it?

1237
01:02:24,946 --> 01:02:28,066
Speaker 5: You know, all the blame goes to Mark Sanchez and

1238
01:02:28,106 --> 01:02:31,066
Speaker 5: not the offensive lineman who was blown up by Vince Wilford.

1239
01:02:31,866 --> 01:02:34,946
Speaker 5: So these were things that were bothering him. And then

1240
01:02:35,386 --> 01:02:38,626
Speaker 5: you know, he would talk about the Patriot mascot hat

1241
01:02:38,666 --> 01:02:41,346
Speaker 5: the Patriot like all of these things. He goes, I

1242
01:02:41,386 --> 01:02:43,906
Speaker 5: don't have an outlet like you do, and I go

1243
01:02:44,706 --> 01:02:47,426
Speaker 5: and then I threw a couple of things back at him,

1244
01:02:48,106 --> 01:02:51,986
Speaker 5: and then it was I liken it too. It was

1245
01:02:52,106 --> 01:02:54,786
Speaker 5: verbal tennis match where we're just throwing things back together,

1246
01:02:55,066 --> 01:02:58,146
Speaker 5: and he said, I'm going to write these down. He goes,

1247
01:02:58,186 --> 01:03:01,586
Speaker 5: would you want to write a book? And I'm thinking sure,

1248
01:03:01,826 --> 01:03:04,906
Speaker 5: like yeah, and then I didn't realize but he said

1249
01:03:05,186 --> 01:03:07,706
Speaker 5: he sent some stuff back. He goes, all right, this

1250
01:03:07,826 --> 01:03:09,986
Speaker 5: is what you said this when I said, and I

1251
01:03:09,986 --> 01:03:12,226
Speaker 5: think we got somebody who will publish this book.

1252
01:03:12,386 --> 01:03:17,906
Speaker 3: And I go, what, whoa why? What? I go?

1253
01:03:18,066 --> 01:03:21,306
Speaker 5: Does America need this? He goes, well, football books are

1254
01:03:21,346 --> 01:03:25,626
Speaker 5: always serious. They're about men, they're about you know, integrity,

1255
01:03:25,706 --> 01:03:29,946
Speaker 5: the Yeah, they're gladiators. And he said, let's just have fun,

1256
01:03:30,306 --> 01:03:34,666
Speaker 5: you know, like, let's talk about Ken Stabler smoking bacon

1257
01:03:34,706 --> 01:03:38,386
Speaker 5: wrapped cigarettes like you know, that's his diet. Let's let's

1258
01:03:38,426 --> 01:03:42,426
Speaker 5: compare Tom Brady's diet to Ken Stable. I said, all right,

1259
01:03:42,706 --> 01:03:45,346
Speaker 5: I said I I And he goes, we don't have

1260
01:03:45,426 --> 01:03:48,826
Speaker 5: to be accurate. That's you know, it's the occasionally accurate.

1261
01:03:48,906 --> 01:03:52,826
Speaker 5: So we're not burden by truth. We don't, but we

1262
01:03:52,826 --> 01:03:56,826
Speaker 5: we do represent every team. We look at the decades,

1263
01:03:57,186 --> 01:03:59,226
Speaker 5: we look at football, what it'll be like in twenty

1264
01:03:59,266 --> 01:03:59,986
Speaker 5: seventy three.

1265
01:04:00,466 --> 01:04:02,426
Speaker 3: And it was just it was just fun.

1266
01:04:02,666 --> 01:04:06,586
Speaker 5: He's an extremely bright guy and it just made the

1267
01:04:06,626 --> 01:04:09,546
Speaker 5: process so much more enjoyable. And then I do the

1268
01:04:09,586 --> 01:04:13,906
Speaker 5: audio version so if you want to bedtime story, I

1269
01:04:13,906 --> 01:04:15,146
Speaker 5: can read this to you.

1270
01:04:15,546 --> 01:04:17,586
Speaker 3: And that was a fun problem.

1271
01:04:18,266 --> 01:04:24,346
Speaker 5: Like we have something on Nipplegate with Justin Timberlake, and

1272
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Speaker 5: there were two of them that I and Andy Richter

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Speaker 5: wrote a story. Part of the chapter Conan's Sidekick. And

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Speaker 5: then Joel started telling his friends. So his friends go, hey,

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Speaker 5: I got it. I got a story. So I mean

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Speaker 5: I was like, I can't turn this down. I'm going

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Speaker 5: to write a book, but everybody else is going to

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Speaker 5: write the book for me. And you know, we just

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Speaker 5: sort of there was nothing that was off limits. We

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Speaker 5: just thought there would be something. If something was funnier,

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Speaker 5: then we took out something. But it was it's been rewarding,

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Speaker 5: it's been enjoyable, and you know, Joel has become a

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Speaker 5: friend as a result.

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Speaker 1: And it's in black and white, right, and it aesthetically

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Speaker 1: looks really cool. Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 3: We do like the Wizinator Ontario Smith.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember on Tara Smith Vikings running back. Couldn't

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Speaker 1: do that airport, that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 5: We fix we fix penalties. Uh, let's see things you

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Speaker 5: don't bring to a tailgate. We made the Immaculate Reception

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Speaker 5: a sermon we do talk about.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: We have people who critique me in the media if

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Speaker 5: I'm any good, and so there's trash talk. I mean,

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Speaker 5: there's there's there's quite a few things in the book,

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Speaker 5: but it's it's meant to be tongue in cheek, but uh,

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Speaker 5: and hopefully people take it that way. But it was

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Speaker 5: and every team is represented, and some of the best

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Speaker 5: players who have played for these teams. We have fun

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Speaker 5: at their expense.

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Speaker 1: Uh. In closing, I got this podcast here as like

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Speaker 1: a second or third gig, and I love it. It's

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Speaker 1: like my own name on it. It's the first thing

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Speaker 1: I've had that. It seems like everyone's got a podcast.

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01:05:56,666 --> 01:05:59,746
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks they can be Dan Patrick. You've seen the

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01:05:59,786 --> 01:06:03,466
Speaker 1: explosion of podcasts, and you know the explosion of McAfee

1307
01:06:03,506 --> 01:06:05,546
Speaker 1: and you name it. Now there's you go on your

1308
01:06:05,546 --> 01:06:09,266
Speaker 1: Twitter feed and it's a different young woman touting gambling

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01:06:09,306 --> 01:06:11,706
Speaker 1: tips and it's her own show. Like it's everywhere. It's

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01:06:11,706 --> 01:06:17,066
Speaker 1: become an explosion of talent facing like here's my takes

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Speaker 1: on this and that, and there's an audience for it.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever imagine it could explode like this and

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01:06:22,226 --> 01:06:23,786
Speaker 1: our industry would go down this direction?

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Speaker 5: Well, yes and no, because if you could do a

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Speaker 5: twenty four hour, seven day a week sports channel, and

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Speaker 5: then another twenty four hour day, seven day a week

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Speaker 5: sports channel, and then another, then yes that the explosion

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Speaker 5: could be there because there's only so many radio outlets

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01:06:44,946 --> 01:06:48,146
Speaker 5: for people. Now, you give them an opportunity to have

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Speaker 5: their view of a certain sport or sports or whatever

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Speaker 5: it might be. I just worry that and it's going

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Speaker 5: to sound like, get off my launch, Oh, let's go,

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01:06:57,866 --> 01:07:01,986
Speaker 5: I'm trying the same boat journalism. Yeah, that's because everybody thinks,

1324
01:07:02,426 --> 01:07:05,146
Speaker 5: where in the mid nineties got to have a catchphrase

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01:07:05,146 --> 01:07:07,066
Speaker 5: to be a sportscaster, now have to have a hot

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01:07:07,106 --> 01:07:10,786
Speaker 5: take to be a sportscaster podcaster. I just want to

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01:07:10,786 --> 01:07:12,906
Speaker 5: make sure that because a lot of people will be

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Speaker 5: loose with language. They'll say, you know, I'm hearing or

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01:07:16,706 --> 01:07:21,626
Speaker 5: and I'm hearing gets left out where Peter Schreger says,

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01:07:21,746 --> 01:07:24,466
Speaker 5: you could say, hey, I'm hearing, and then all of

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01:07:24,506 --> 01:07:28,146
Speaker 5: a sudden it's no Peter Schreger says that the Raiders

1332
01:07:28,146 --> 01:07:32,466
Speaker 5: are moving on from Devonte Adams. Sure they don't listen

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01:07:32,546 --> 01:07:35,746
Speaker 5: all the way and therefore it becomes his story. And

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Speaker 5: I always caution, my students, have a source. Don't be

1335
01:07:39,626 --> 01:07:42,546
Speaker 5: afraid to have a second source. When we were on ESPN,

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01:07:43,026 --> 01:07:45,746
Speaker 5: we had to have two sources if you had a story.

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Speaker 5: And as crazy as this is going to sound, I

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01:07:50,506 --> 01:07:54,546
Speaker 5: was on vacation with my wife and sitting next to

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Speaker 5: us was Tony Dungee's agent, and he said, hey, did

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01:08:00,546 --> 01:08:04,066
Speaker 5: you hear that Tony's going to get the Tampa Bay job?

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01:08:04,866 --> 01:08:07,866
Speaker 5: And I go no, he said no, I'm on vacation,

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01:08:08,226 --> 01:08:10,506
Speaker 5: and I thought, well, let me call into the assignment desk.

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01:08:10,946 --> 01:08:13,946
Speaker 5: I called him the assignment desk and they it might

1344
01:08:13,986 --> 01:08:17,226
Speaker 5: have been Steve Perrisman was the guy maybe, and I

1345
01:08:17,666 --> 01:08:20,106
Speaker 5: just remember he needed another source.

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Speaker 1: You're like, god, no, no, no.

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01:08:21,426 --> 01:08:23,346
Speaker 5: The agent just but I couldn't tell him that I'm

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01:08:23,346 --> 01:08:25,506
Speaker 5: getting it from the agent because the agent said, don't

1349
01:08:25,506 --> 01:08:31,346
Speaker 5: attach my name, and I'm going I have an unbelievable source.

1350
01:08:32,346 --> 01:08:35,826
Speaker 5: And then he said I need a second source. They

1351
01:08:35,826 --> 01:08:40,266
Speaker 5: got a hold of Andrea Kramer, and Andrea was able

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01:08:40,346 --> 01:08:44,026
Speaker 5: to confirm it, and then Andrea, I think, broke the news.

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01:08:44,426 --> 01:08:47,106
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I'm on vacation.

1354
01:08:47,306 --> 01:08:49,106
Speaker 1: I don't even know what this news.

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Speaker 3: I'm not an insider.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you, hey, Tony's gonna get the job with

1357
01:08:54,466 --> 01:08:57,986
Speaker 5: the buccaneer, and I just remember, it's like, Holy, I

1358
01:08:57,986 --> 01:09:00,026
Speaker 5: don't want to work this hard at a story I

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01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:00,986
Speaker 5: won't get credit for.

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Speaker 3: I don't want credit for it.

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Speaker 5: I want credit for But you know, I caution those

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01:09:07,946 --> 01:09:12,226
Speaker 5: who do it that don't don't be afraid if you're

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01:09:12,226 --> 01:09:14,666
Speaker 5: going to say something that you have something to back

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01:09:14,706 --> 01:09:17,826
Speaker 5: it up, because everybody can do the following. Oh, you know,

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01:09:17,866 --> 01:09:19,866
Speaker 5: a source told me. Why don't have to tell you

1366
01:09:19,906 --> 01:09:23,746
Speaker 5: my source? But you hope that people are still going

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01:09:23,786 --> 01:09:27,746
Speaker 5: through the process. And look, I came up with CNN,

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Speaker 5: and this is the way you did it, and I'm

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01:09:30,026 --> 01:09:33,266
Speaker 5: going to go out that way. You can't be loose

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Speaker 5: with Oh I'm hearing.

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Speaker 1: Well. I feel fortunate enough that I spent twenty years

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Speaker 1: having to do sources and that by the time I

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01:09:41,226 --> 01:09:45,906
Speaker 1: say something on air, you're not questioning that process. A

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01:09:45,906 --> 01:09:48,586
Speaker 1: lot of times now, I see people saying stuff on

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01:09:48,626 --> 01:09:50,426
Speaker 1: air online I don't know who this person is. I

1376
01:09:50,466 --> 01:09:52,746
Speaker 1: don't even know what this Twitter handle is. I don't

1377
01:09:52,746 --> 01:09:54,386
Speaker 1: know where to believe it or not, and the check

1378
01:09:54,386 --> 01:09:57,226
Speaker 1: marks are all ascue, so I can't. So it's very complicated,

1379
01:09:57,346 --> 01:10:00,066
Speaker 1: especially you know when it talks to off season stuff

1380
01:10:00,066 --> 01:10:01,746
Speaker 1: and trades and numerous because then I'll hear from the

1381
01:10:01,786 --> 01:10:03,986
Speaker 1: GMS and coaches and be like, I read this from

1382
01:10:04,546 --> 01:10:06,186
Speaker 1: this Twitter feed. I'm like, I don't I don't know

1383
01:10:06,226 --> 01:10:07,666
Speaker 1: who that is. I don't even know who the person

1384
01:10:07,746 --> 01:10:10,426
Speaker 1: is behind that. Someone said it, well, this is the

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01:10:10,506 --> 01:10:12,986
Speaker 1: era of anonymous reporters.

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01:10:13,466 --> 01:10:16,026
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's another thing where you're going, I don't know,

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01:10:16,626 --> 01:10:19,186
Speaker 5: I don't know who the reporter is, but they're breaking

1388
01:10:19,226 --> 01:10:21,866
Speaker 5: this story on Tom Brady and then you have to

1389
01:10:21,946 --> 01:10:24,386
Speaker 5: follow that story and then you have to figure out

1390
01:10:24,546 --> 01:10:25,466
Speaker 5: is it true or not?

1391
01:10:26,026 --> 01:10:27,546
Speaker 1: And it's a real person.

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01:10:27,546 --> 01:10:30,066
Speaker 5: Yes, and if somebody has an opinion. We had Rick

1393
01:10:30,146 --> 01:10:32,586
Speaker 5: neuheiseel on and I said, where's Jim Harbaugh on a year?

1394
01:10:32,906 --> 01:10:35,706
Speaker 5: He said he'll be in the NFL. Well, that's just

1395
01:10:36,026 --> 01:10:39,826
Speaker 5: his opinion. It's not like he's reporting that. That's not

1396
01:10:39,866 --> 01:10:44,586
Speaker 5: Bruce Feldman saying, yes, it's Rick Neuheisel said he thinks Jim.

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01:10:44,786 --> 01:10:45,826
Speaker 3: But that's how it.

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01:10:46,466 --> 01:10:50,786
Speaker 5: When we think that people go, they'll obviously know that Hey,

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01:10:50,866 --> 01:10:55,026
Speaker 5: I'm saying this in jest or I'm just telling you

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01:10:55,106 --> 01:10:59,106
Speaker 5: something that's my opinion. It becomes you know, the truth,

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01:10:59,146 --> 01:11:00,586
Speaker 5: and then it's out there and then all of a

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01:11:00,626 --> 01:11:03,346
Speaker 5: sudden people run with it and you're like, hold on,

1403
01:11:03,546 --> 01:11:07,386
Speaker 5: like you can't bring it back. And I hope that

1404
01:11:07,466 --> 01:11:10,266
Speaker 5: people who do this understand you can have a hot take.

1405
01:11:11,306 --> 01:11:14,266
Speaker 5: I like to have an informed take. It may not

1406
01:11:14,466 --> 01:11:18,066
Speaker 5: be hot, but if it's warm, great, I hope it's accurate.

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01:11:18,146 --> 01:11:20,426
Speaker 3: More importantly, you're amazing.

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01:11:20,506 --> 01:11:21,986
Speaker 1: You're awesome. I feel like we could do a part

1409
01:11:22,026 --> 01:11:24,626
Speaker 1: two and we haven't even talked about your interview prowess.

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01:11:24,266 --> 01:11:26,586
Speaker 3: And we can do a part two whenever you want to.

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01:11:26,586 --> 01:11:30,786
Speaker 1: People do it, So appreciate your time. Guys, everyone who's listening.

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01:11:30,546 --> 01:11:32,666
Speaker 3: The Jamie Jamie's pregnant.

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01:11:32,986 --> 01:11:33,986
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jamie's prego.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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01:11:35,266 --> 01:11:38,026
Speaker 1: She told us that a couple of weeks ago. We're like, okay,

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01:11:38,106 --> 01:11:40,866
Speaker 1: that's amazing, and she's like, but I don't know how

1417
01:11:40,866 --> 01:11:43,386
Speaker 1: to reveal to the audience. So today on Halloween, she

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01:11:43,546 --> 01:11:46,746
Speaker 1: dresses Rihanna, who of course performed the Half of Me,

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01:11:46,746 --> 01:11:47,866
Speaker 1: and then she kind of dropped the bomb on the

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Speaker 1: audience and is like and yeah, just like Rihanna, I'm pregnant.

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Speaker 1: And they're like, okay, Yeah, she's awesome by the way, Yeah,

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01:11:53,266 --> 01:11:54,026
Speaker 1: amazing teammate.

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Speaker 5: I never met her, and I've talked to Kyle before,

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01:11:56,746 --> 01:12:02,706
Speaker 5: and uh, you know, his angry runs are epic. Yeah,

1425
01:12:02,826 --> 01:12:06,146
Speaker 5: I worry that he's Yes, something's going to happen, He's

1426
01:12:06,146 --> 01:12:07,746
Speaker 5: not a something's gonna burst.

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01:12:08,186 --> 01:12:12,786
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Dan Patrick. Such a thrill. Thank

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01:12:12,826 --> 01:12:13,986
Speaker 1: you so much for doing the show.

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01:12:13,826 --> 01:12:16,546
Speaker 3: Man, Peter, thank you, and I'll be watching.

1430
01:12:19,746 --> 01:12:23,026
Speaker 1: Aaron Dan Patrick as good as advertised, maybe better? Was

1431
01:12:23,026 --> 01:12:25,266
Speaker 1: that not awesome? Yeah?

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01:12:25,306 --> 01:12:28,426
Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't think I've heard him speak so

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01:12:28,546 --> 01:12:32,746
Speaker 2: casually and openly about like a bunch of historical not historical,

1434
01:12:32,826 --> 01:12:36,586
Speaker 2: but like the glory days of Sports Center, and like

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01:12:36,906 --> 01:12:37,866
Speaker 2: that was I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. There was that giant ESPN book that

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01:12:41,386 --> 01:12:44,426
Speaker 1: James Andrew Miller wrote, and I'm maybe Patrick shared that

1438
01:12:44,466 --> 01:12:46,706
Speaker 1: in there. But like when he starts talking about the

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01:12:46,706 --> 01:12:49,266
Speaker 1: stuff with bosses and the bigger than the brand, that's

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Speaker 1: all news to me. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm a big fan,

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01:12:53,786 --> 01:12:55,506
Speaker 1: you know, like it's a thrill for me. Obviously I

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01:12:55,506 --> 01:12:57,266
Speaker 1: was s geeking out. I felt like Chris Farley, like

1443
01:12:57,746 --> 01:13:00,426
Speaker 1: what was it? Like, you know, he's talking to Paul McCartney.

1444
01:13:00,666 --> 01:13:03,586
Speaker 1: That was it. The book I'll get, I'll read, I'll

1445
01:13:03,586 --> 01:13:05,826
Speaker 1: probably listen to it. I like Dan's voice, I'll listen

1446
01:13:05,866 --> 01:13:09,466
Speaker 1: to it. But that was cool, and this podcast was cool.

1447
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Speaker 1: behalf of Jason English, who made his second appearance on

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Speaker 1: the Microphones from iHeartRadio. He's a very very very vocal

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Speaker 1: part of this podcast in the direction it goes, and

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Speaker 1: all in good ways. As far as all the guys

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Speaker 1: in LA we meant to say it, Aaron. Oddly enough, Shepherd,

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Speaker 1: you did not hold up their end of the bargain.

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Speaker 1: They lost. But Arizona, which is the secondary team where

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Speaker 1: our executives Jason Kleinman and Matt Schneider are proud alums,

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Speaker 1: they did a major upset victory on would they beat

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Speaker 1: Washington or was it Oregon State? They beat a massive

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Speaker 1: number eleven team, so they did their job. But the

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Speaker 1: Shepherd guys and my man Ernie McCook just didn't get

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Speaker 1: the job done. So we got one out of two

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01:15:04,266 --> 01:15:06,906
Speaker 1: this weekend, real quick, Aeron, I think think I might

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01:15:06,946 --> 01:15:12,266
Speaker 1: go to USC Washington. It's homecoming at USC in Kingsbury.

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01:15:12,506 --> 01:15:15,066
Speaker 1: Kingsbury invited me to go as a guest to his

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01:15:15,786 --> 01:15:18,026
Speaker 1: but if I'm being completely honest. I probably am not

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01:15:18,106 --> 01:15:23,426
Speaker 1: gonna go. Seems like a lot of work. I gotta

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01:15:23,986 --> 01:15:25,746
Speaker 1: If I go to a college football game, I got

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01:15:25,866 --> 01:15:27,626
Speaker 1: a drink and then I get to there and it's

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01:15:27,666 --> 01:15:29,706
Speaker 1: like I'm always constantly checking my phone, Like I want

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01:15:29,706 --> 01:15:31,746
Speaker 1: to go home. I've got a show in a four

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01:15:31,746 --> 01:15:33,906
Speaker 1: am wake up. Maybe I'll tell Cliff I'm gonna go

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01:15:34,386 --> 01:15:36,346
Speaker 1: and I'll just lie to him and watch it on TV.

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01:15:36,466 --> 01:15:37,106
Speaker 1: How does that sound?

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01:15:37,266 --> 01:15:38,586
Speaker 2: No, you can't do fat.

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01:15:38,746 --> 01:15:40,906
Speaker 1: He doesn't know. He's gonna be busy. I don't even

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01:15:40,906 --> 01:15:42,786
Speaker 1: know what his job is with the USC. He's like

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01:15:42,946 --> 01:15:45,426
Speaker 1: involved with the offense, but he's not the offensive coordinator.

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01:15:45,466 --> 01:15:50,226
Speaker 1: He's not the head coach. But not I would only

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01:15:50,266 --> 01:15:52,386
Speaker 1: go for the pregame and just say hello to him,

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01:15:52,386 --> 01:15:53,706
Speaker 1: and then I would peace. But I do want to

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01:15:53,706 --> 01:15:56,986
Speaker 1: see Kayleb Williams warm up and Pennix too. All Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm wasting too much time. Thank you everyone for listening.

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Speaker 1: It's Halloween. I'm gonna go trick or treat uh enjoy yourselves,

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Speaker 1: Please be safe and we'll see you next week. The

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