WEBVTT - From Grief to Self-Inflicted Depression-The Harsh Reality

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you're still experiencing what you think is grief,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to tell you it's not grief anymore. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's self inflicting, self deprecating depression. And that is Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here comes the worst part about this. That is narcissism.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, guys, Welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for being here, watching, listening wherever you're coming from

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<v Speaker 1>Episode to twenty seven. Thank you for everyone that has

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<v Speaker 1>taken this journey for so long with me. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast started in twenty seventeen, so we're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>as real time right now, we're looking at about seven

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<v Speaker 1>years of this. So man, I love you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love the opportunity to just real talk. No edits,

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<v Speaker 1>no clicks, no notes, no quotes in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>no books that I'm discussing here, just answering your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have one for me, email podcast at grangersmith

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. We'll walk through it like we're sitting around

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<v Speaker 1>a campfire. This first question comes from Morgan. It says, Hey, Granger,

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<v Speaker 1>I love listening to the podcast. I'm twenty one years old,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from Tennessee, and I am starting to realize a

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<v Speaker 1>reoccurring thought of a guy that I no longer talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>In the beginning, I was relieved that the situation was

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<v Speaker 1>over and did not think much of it. It has

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<v Speaker 1>been at least five months now. However, the past month

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<v Speaker 1>or so he has come to mind often. I realize

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<v Speaker 1>it is something I need to take to God and

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<v Speaker 1>ask him about. As I do, I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>your take on it. Normally, if someone comes to mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pray for them and reach out to them if

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<v Speaker 1>i'm thinking about them. I have done both. He did

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<v Speaker 1>not respond when I reached out. He is still a

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<v Speaker 1>thought in the back of my mind, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>confused about it. There is such great vice, great advice

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<v Speaker 1>in each episode, and I hope to hear back on

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<v Speaker 1>this topic. Thank you all right kicking it off with Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you, And look, I'm not always right on

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. I'd just like to answer like we're two friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we're sitting sitting in the cap of a truck

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<v Speaker 1>or sitting sitting around a campfire, and we talk through this,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I hear these questions for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's not always.

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<v Speaker 2>The right answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Except for you, except for this one. Morgan, you got

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<v Speaker 1>look the guy says, the guy is gone, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>you reach out to him and he doesn't respond. That

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<v Speaker 1>is enough. That is an answer in itself. He might

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<v Speaker 1>not have responded with words, but he responded clearly with

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<v Speaker 1>no words. And it means I don't want to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, I've moved on, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk or have anything to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do with you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're twenty one, You're from Tennessee, and you say all

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<v Speaker 1>you say, right, is there is a guy I no

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<v Speaker 1>longer talk to. I think that's all we know about

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. But look, Morgan, this is, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>it's normal. Let's acknowledge this. This is a normal feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that you're having. And when he doesn't reply, it also

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<v Speaker 1>triggers something in your mind that it kind of thinks,

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<v Speaker 1>what why is he not replying?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he hurt? Is he injured?

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<v Speaker 1>Did he get in a car accident? And he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>ran off a cliff and no one knows where he is.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I, if I find him, then you know

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe I'll be the one to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>rescue him. No, that's not what this is. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, you say, I'll pray. I've been praying, and

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<v Speaker 1>I need to take this to God. Look you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>in a clear answer from God and everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>That the guy's moved on, so you should too.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question comes from Anonymous, and it says, hey, Granger,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my twenty one year old son on December

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<v Speaker 1>fourteenth of last year. It was unexpected, and we put

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<v Speaker 1>him to bed and he never woke up. I have

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<v Speaker 1>two other children, a three year old daughter and a

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<v Speaker 1>seven month old baby. My fear is that I won't

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<v Speaker 1>ever be able to have joy with my other children

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<v Speaker 1>ever again. All I see is him not being there.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I balance the pain of losing my two

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<v Speaker 1>year old with making new memories with my other children?

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<v Speaker 2>Also? Does this pain ever subside? Thank you all right, Anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, and unfortunately I could I know this

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<v Speaker 1>and I could relate. The first thing I would say

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<v Speaker 1>is we're going to answer kind of your question in

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<v Speaker 1>parts here. And your first question is how do I

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<v Speaker 1>balance losing my two year old with making new memories

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<v Speaker 1>with my other children? Well, that's the answer to that

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<v Speaker 1>question is. First of all, you don't you're not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to plan next year. You're not trying to plan five

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<v Speaker 1>years from now. You're not You're not trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>a ten year plan. You're not trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>when you're gonna go to Disney World when they're preteens.

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<v Speaker 1>All you have to do is work on today. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I say that is because pain comes in waves,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes you're going to feel okay. And on those days,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a three year old daughter and a seven

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<v Speaker 1>month old baby. On those days, you'd be as present

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<v Speaker 1>as you can with them, and when you get you

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<v Speaker 1>get down on the carpet, you know, in their room

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<v Speaker 1>and their bedroom, and you get lost with your three

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<v Speaker 1>year old and you start having conversations with her, and

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<v Speaker 1>sure you might break up and start crying a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's okay for her to see you crying, and

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<v Speaker 1>you could say I miss your little brother, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then other days you might not bring it up

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<v Speaker 1>at all because it doesn't it doesn't cross your mind

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<v Speaker 1>to tell her that.

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<v Speaker 2>And so my point is if you if you work.

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<v Speaker 1>Day by day instead of week by week or year

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<v Speaker 1>by year, you just work day by day and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>just hour by hour, then I promise you the days

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<v Speaker 1>will go by and you'll start collecting good days along

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<v Speaker 1>with the bad ones. The problem is, what you'll realize

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<v Speaker 1>is that sometimes you'll be laughing with your kids and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a thought, an evil thought, that comes in your

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<v Speaker 1>head that says, how dare you laugh with these kids

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<v Speaker 1>when they lost a sibling and you lost a son.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to tell you right now, Anonymous, that

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<v Speaker 1>that is that feeling is the enemy. It is a lie,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is here to steal your joy. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you reject that thought, and he say, no, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>me having joy and laughing with my kids does not

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<v Speaker 1>compete against the grief of losing my son. They can

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<v Speaker 1>coexist at the same time. And listen, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to convince you that you could probably already think back

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<v Speaker 1>as you listen to this podcast of many times when

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<v Speaker 1>that's already happened, when you've you've felt joy and you

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<v Speaker 1>laugh genuine I mean, three year olds are kids you

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<v Speaker 1>want to laugh all the time. They say funny things,

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<v Speaker 1>they do funny things. And I'm sure you have seen

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<v Speaker 1>your daughter say or do something funny and you've smiled,

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<v Speaker 1>and whether or not you felt guilty about it, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell you that that smile can coexist with

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<v Speaker 1>the grief of losing your son. They could both exist.

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<v Speaker 2>In your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no reason why you should feel guilty about that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the last question is for you, does the

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<v Speaker 1>pain ever subside? And the answer is absolutely yes. There

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<v Speaker 1>might be people that tell you no, I've heard those

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<v Speaker 1>people and I still hear those people. They say, losing

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<v Speaker 1>a child is a loss, it's a pain that never

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<v Speaker 1>goes away. Well to those people, I will say, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. If you truly believe, and it has been

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<v Speaker 1>maybe decades and I've heard this, that the pain of

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<v Speaker 1>losing a child never subsides, then there's something else wrong

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<v Speaker 1>because you're now past you're past the appropriate time to grieve,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're in self deprecation mode and you're in

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<v Speaker 1>depression grief just like you know, you get.

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<v Speaker 2>The flu, right and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Cough, and you have this bacterial infection in your lungs

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<v Speaker 1>with the flu, and then that can turn into pneumonia.

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<v Speaker 1>Pneumonia is not the flu, but as the flu lingered

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<v Speaker 1>too long, it manifested into pneumonia. And grief and loss

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<v Speaker 1>can manifest into depression if it's not dealt with correctly

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<v Speaker 1>and So if you're still experiencing what you think is grief,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here to tell you it's not grief anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's self inflicting, self deprecating depression. And that is oh,

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<v Speaker 1>here here comes the worst part about this. That is narcissism.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, whoa hold, what do you say? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you say that my self deprecation and my depression from

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<v Speaker 1>losing a loved one is narcissism? I'm saying it could

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<v Speaker 1>become that yet, because it could become where all you

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<v Speaker 1>think about is yourself, not in a good way, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad way. All you think is poor me,

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<v Speaker 1>poor me, because of this. I don't have this because

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<v Speaker 1>of that, I have missing out on this. My life

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<v Speaker 1>is not the way it should have been because of this.

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<v Speaker 1>And what that is is just me, me, me, me me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's narcissism. That's what it becomes. So let me answer

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<v Speaker 1>the question. Finally, does the pain ever subside? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>It does. The memory and.

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<v Speaker 1>The love and this sting from the loss itself exist

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<v Speaker 1>as you move forward with it, and it becomes less

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<v Speaker 1>and less painful as you look back on it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a healthy way of moving forward with that loved one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't do that by forgetting them. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that by wishing them away or carrying with them

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<v Speaker 1>like they're like they're an idol and a shrine. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it either of those ways. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>could work away where you're remaining present, playing with your

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<v Speaker 1>other kids, living moment to moment with those kids, finding

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<v Speaker 1>joy in those moments with those kids, then you'll notice

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<v Speaker 1>the seconds go by, the minutes go by, hours, the days,

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<v Speaker 1>the weeks, the months, and then the years. And you

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<v Speaker 1>collect enough years and you look back and you go,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hurt as bad. I still remember, and I

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<v Speaker 1>still feel, and I still have moments, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>all sad anymore. In fact, now when I look back

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<v Speaker 1>at my son, I'm talking to you, anonymous, you'll smile

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<v Speaker 1>more than you cry. You could do this, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a healthy way to grieve, it is. Next question comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Elizabeth hey Gringer. My name is Elizabeth. I'm thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband and I recently found out that someone who

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<v Speaker 1>we have been close friends with was a registered sex offender.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only have we become friends with the person, but

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<v Speaker 1>our son has also become closer friends with this person's

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<v Speaker 1>son as well. This person has served their time and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm told they no longer are on the registry. However,

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<v Speaker 1>it has changed the dynamic of our friendship. We are

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<v Speaker 1>believers and so this yes, and so is this person.

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<v Speaker 1>We completely believe in redemption and that God can change

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<v Speaker 1>hearts and can take people out of bondage. But are

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<v Speaker 1>we wrong for setting boundaries for our family based on

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<v Speaker 1>what we are comfortable with. We are praying for God's

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom as we move forward in our friends and in

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<v Speaker 1>our friends with this person and the rest of the family.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for your time. We love your music into preaching.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Elizabeth. Yeah, that's a great question, Elizabeth. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for asking it and bringing up a you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting topic. And we've said this before in this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but there we know that there's a difference between forgiveness

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<v Speaker 1>and love and how God changes hearts. There's a difference

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<v Speaker 1>between those things, and then there's a separation in trust,

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<v Speaker 1>right because we trust is earned and we have to

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<v Speaker 1>be responsible with who we give it to. We can

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<v Speaker 1>give freely our forgiveness, and we can give freely our love,

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<v Speaker 1>but but trust we give limited amounts of as it's earned,

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<v Speaker 1>and that that would be my advice to you is

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<v Speaker 1>when you're if it was just you and you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with this person, that's one thing maybe, but

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<v Speaker 1>with your children involved, it becomes it becomes difficult. And

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<v Speaker 1>now your obligation to protect your children and prepare them

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<v Speaker 1>for the world is now greater than the desire to

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<v Speaker 1>make friends and keep them. You're gonna have to You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to wrestle with that because those two priorities.

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<v Speaker 1>Being friends with someone, being loving, being a good neighbor

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<v Speaker 1>is not equal to I need to also protect my

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<v Speaker 1>child from a registered sex offender or an unregistered sex offender,

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<v Speaker 1>even if they seem recovered. The protecting your child from

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<v Speaker 1>possible danger is greater than your trust of a neighbor.

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<v Speaker 1>Not your love, not your forgiveness, that's different, but your

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<v Speaker 1>trust of that neighbor. So you're gonna have to have

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<v Speaker 1>great discernment. And I think it's absolutely right that you're

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<v Speaker 1>setting boundaries. I think that's part of your question, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're absolutely right, and there would be no

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<v Speaker 1>objection from the Smith family if that was the situation

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<v Speaker 1>we saw. Next question comes from Kurt, and it says,

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<v Speaker 1>dear Granger, I sent this question for I sent in

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<v Speaker 1>this question good paying job versus ministry position that y'all

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<v Speaker 1>answered in episode two to two, and that got me really emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that was with Bernie, and Kert goes on

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I just want to say thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>all your advice and your insights, and I apologize for

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<v Speaker 1>getting Bernie choked up, but thank you for not cutting

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<v Speaker 1>and for that raw emotion and his heart.

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<v Speaker 2>It really moved me.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly believe that I'm I am an ambassador for

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<v Speaker 1>Christ and whatever area I work, So thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>that word, Granger. I walked away from the podcast feeling convicted,

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<v Speaker 1>as my prayer life has not been consistent and is

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<v Speaker 1>an area of my life that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to grow in.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's great getting a getting a follow up to

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<v Speaker 1>a question that was That was an impactful podcast episode

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<v Speaker 1>two twenty two because Bernie, who's a regular guest on here,

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<v Speaker 1>got really emotional, so much so that he couldn't speak anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the first time I've seen it in all

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<v Speaker 1>these episodes, the first time I've seen a guest or

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<v Speaker 1>me get so choked.

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<v Speaker 2>Up that they could not speak anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kurt I'm glad you heard that, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that you reached back out that it means a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hit another question here.

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<v Speaker 1>A question says, Hey, Granger, I emailed about a month

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<v Speaker 1>ago about me and this girl. We recently split our

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<v Speaker 1>separate ways, but this has taken me. Our relationship was

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<v Speaker 1>something else, so it's very rough to part ways with

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<v Speaker 1>someone I have found so special. I need some tips

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<v Speaker 1>on how to get out of this dark place. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to follow your email. This comes from Carter from

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Recently split up with this girl and you said our

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with something else, So it's very rough to part

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<v Speaker 1>ways with someone that I found so special, and I

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<v Speaker 1>need some tips on how to get out of this

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<v Speaker 1>dark place.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, first tip is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it feels like we haven't done this in a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but my first tip is block her on everything. Block

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<v Speaker 1>her on Instagram and Facebook and anything else you're following

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<v Speaker 1>her on and on your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Block her on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>If the relationship is truly done, which it's come on,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like it is. You don't want to see her,

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to see her pop up on your

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<v Speaker 1>feed saying something or messaging you in a week time,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that it's just going to end up going back

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<v Speaker 1>the way that it was, and to protect your heart

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<v Speaker 1>in this kind of situation, it's necessary. It might seem rude.

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<v Speaker 1>If you feel better about it, probably wouldn't reckon in this.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you feel better about it, message her, text

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<v Speaker 1>her and say just to let you know, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to block you on everything and it's not personal. I

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<v Speaker 1>just need to move on and not seeing you will

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<v Speaker 1>help with that, and then blocker before she could reply blocker.

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<v Speaker 1>If you feel convicted enough to do it. I probably

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even recommend that. I wouldn't even do it myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just go ahead and block her on everything

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<v Speaker 1>and she'll know eventually it's not personal. But that's the

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<v Speaker 1>first step in your healing. Is you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>see her. I don't know your situation. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you see her every day. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you see I don't know if you work with her

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<v Speaker 1>or see her in your small town. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would let that time go by and just know

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<v Speaker 1>that the time as.

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<v Speaker 2>It rolls, as it ticks on, you'll get better. And

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<v Speaker 2>you'll get better.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you, Carter, time will heal In this scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't always say that, can't always just go yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>time heels. But in this situation, if you block her

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<v Speaker 1>out of sight, out of mind, out of heart, time

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<v Speaker 1>goes by.

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<v Speaker 2>And you'll get better. I promise.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a long time ago that I started grangersmith

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Since that website launched into the world was

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and two, twenty two years. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>could we just think for a second how crazy it

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<v Speaker 1>is that two thousand and two was twenty two years ago. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>since then, that website has evolved so much. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when we first started selling a T shirt that was

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<v Speaker 1>probably two thousand and five. Music was probably four, and

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<v Speaker 1>things really didn't start picking up at all until maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six, and I was still just selling

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<v Speaker 1>it right out of my house, coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>cabinets in my kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was helping me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy to think that back then I had no vision.

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<v Speaker 1>I hoped, I had expectation, but I had no vision

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<v Speaker 1>for what that online store would become.

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<v Speaker 2>And it became ee dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, when you're creative and you're making creative things you

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<v Speaker 1>slash granger. If you want to get a hold of me,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a video message. You know, you know I could

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<v Speaker 1>do that. People all the time are like, hey, can

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<v Speaker 1>you send me a video message? I'm like, I got

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<v Speaker 1>an easy thing for you to do. Go to cameo

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. That's cam Eo Cameo dot com slash granger

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<v Speaker 1>Smith or just search for me on that website or

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<v Speaker 1>the app, and I'll suit you a video message based

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<v Speaker 1>on what you tell me to do. So it's like, hey, Granger,

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<v Speaker 1>can you please tell my brother in law happy birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a fan of you, and make fun of him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit because he's a bad fisherman.

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<v Speaker 2>And I read that and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like cool, I get off my phone, turn on the

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<v Speaker 1>camera and it's like, Hey, John, your brother in law

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<v Speaker 1>wanted me to give you a shout.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's your birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>One of these days I need to give you a

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<v Speaker 1>phishing lesson whatever it might be, Hey, any kind of occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>The message could be you two, but I will send

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<v Speaker 1>you that straight from my phone. Just go to cameo

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<v Speaker 1>dot com slash Granger Smith. Next question comes from Justin.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, Hey Granger, I'm justin IM from Athens, Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a woman that is in jail a lot

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<v Speaker 2>due to drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends tell me to leave her alone, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to, but my heart tells me that I need

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<v Speaker 1>to stick around and help her because she obviously doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the friends that she needs and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be there for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Please give me some advice.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I do read this, if you do read

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<v Speaker 1>this email, I want to thank you for your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Christ Is King and yee please come back to northern

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama all right. Justin appreciate you, buddy. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for emailing. And you know this answer is not

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to give, but difficult to hear. This girl is

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<v Speaker 1>not right for you. And I'll tell you why. In

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<v Speaker 1>a romantic relationship, you are looking for a life partner

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to partner with you. I mean, you said,

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<v Speaker 1>christ Is King, You're going you want a life partner

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be your ministry partner in life, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be your your your partner with raising kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to see eye to.

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<v Speaker 1>Eye on on schools and and issues that come with

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<v Speaker 1>raising kids and jobs and finances. You need someone you

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<v Speaker 1>can lean on, someone you could trust, someone that in

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<v Speaker 1>good times and tough times and joyful times, she's steady right,

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<v Speaker 1>as steady as she should be. And that's not this girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem is, really there's a difference between you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a life partner that's going to you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a job applicant that's going to be your assistant,

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<v Speaker 1>your assistant manager of your household, right, And so to

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<v Speaker 1>look for an assistant manager of your household, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>go after drug addicts that go to jail. That would

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<v Speaker 1>never happen if you were running a company and you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking like I'm looking for an assistant manager to help

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<v Speaker 1>run this facility, then somebody says, hey, have you checked

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<v Speaker 1>the jail. Have you looked at anyone in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of jail doing drugs, you'd say you look at them

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<v Speaker 1>like they're crazy. But because she's probably cute and you

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<v Speaker 1>like her because she's pretty and you get along with her,

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<v Speaker 1>you see her as a project and you're getting rewarded

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<v Speaker 1>when you feel like you're helping this project.

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<v Speaker 2>So the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that in a in a friend situation, this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a great opportunity to help a friend and to

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<v Speaker 1>help revitalize them and help help show them how to

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<v Speaker 1>move forward in life and to to get off these

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<v Speaker 1>drugs and to stay out of jail. That's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good project. But not for your your co manager, not

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<v Speaker 1>for your life partner, right, So you got to and

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<v Speaker 1>because of that, and because you have an emotional attraction

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<v Speaker 1>to her, you got to cut this off. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>really tough because you'll you'll immediately start thinking that if

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<v Speaker 1>you cut her off, she's going to get worse and

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna go off the deep end. And the hard

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<v Speaker 1>reality is that's not your problem in that way, because

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<v Speaker 1>it is your problem if you're if you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>help recover a friend, but you're also trying to find

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<v Speaker 1>find the mother of your children.

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<v Speaker 2>So you see the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's not your problem, because you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the mother of your future children, Lord Willing, and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want a drug addict in and out of jail.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're getting this dopamine kick by helping her, and

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<v Speaker 1>it feels good.

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<v Speaker 2>And and she's like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>You're no one else cares about me, and no one

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<v Speaker 1>else speaks to me or or does the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you do for me. I don't have anybody in my

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<v Speaker 1>life like you, so thank you so much. And you think, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is I'm a hero. Like here I come night

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 1>on the white Horse, save in the day and it

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>feels good. All of us like the puffer chick stuff

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and go, yeah, this is good. I

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 1>feel really great about this. But not for the future

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>mother of your children. You got to break this off,

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>justin you have to break this off.

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<v Speaker 2>Next question.

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<v Speaker 1>Sub decline is patience says hey Granger, and my name

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 1>is Jackie, and I am having a really difficult time lately,

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and I have no one to turn to. I'm thirty

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>five years old, I have three kids that live at home,

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>which I homeschool. I'm married to a long haul truck

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>driver who is home on the average of three to

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>four days a month. I have minimal friends, all that

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>live in either other states as we've all moved a bunch,

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and I do not have many close relationships with any

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>of my family members. To say that I'm overwhelmed, lonely,

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and incredib burnout is an understatement of the century. The

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>last couple of years, I have found peace, joy, and

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>religion through gardening and reconnecting with the earth. As for

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the last year, I've had this overwhelming feeling of wanting

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to go home, and this feeling of just knowing that

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>we are supposed to buy land and start our own farm,

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>finally get my husband off the road, and then back

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>with our family. But my husband feels the same way. However,

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>It's been one thing after another preventing us from getting

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>started on that path. It just feels like every path

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>through our future is blocked and I'm not sure what

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to do. What I'm really struggling with is this calling

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>to go home and knowing that that call is coming

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>from my God, but not understanding the path to get there.

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>How could you know wholeheartedly what your God wants from you,

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>but have the patience to wait for the right path

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to show itself, especially when you are incredibly miserable in

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the life you're currently living. Thank you for any thoughts

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you have, and I appreciate you, Jacqueline, she calls herself Jackie. Okay,

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>great email and a lot to unpack here. You know,

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 1>let's dive into this and it's multi layered, and let

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>me find a starting spot here. I want to point

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>out that every time she said god, it's a god

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>or my god in its lowercase G, and it implies, Jackie,

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you're implying that you have a god and I have

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a god. Okay, So we'll start kind of there, and

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>my question would be this, do you think they are

0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>multiple gods? And do those multiple gods kind of going

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.520
<v Speaker 1>back to the last email, do they kind of co

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>manage the earth? And they like one god has a

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of people and the other god has got

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.760
<v Speaker 1>another amount of people. And your god apparently speaks through gardening.

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>That's your religion, you say, mother Earth. Okay, So I

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>reject all that, and maybe that's not what you think,

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>but I reject all that. All that thought. If there

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.719
<v Speaker 1>is a god, there is only one, and if there

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>is only one God, then he is.

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Let me stop there. He is everything. There's no way

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:42.959
<v Speaker 2>other way around it.

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>If there were, you know, hypothetically, if there were a

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>God in this email scenario that wasn't all powerful or

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:56.719
<v Speaker 1>all knowing or all planning or all sovereign or all providential.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>If there wasn't, if he wasn't any of those things

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>are all good, that he wouldn't be God. You know,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>he would be maybe like a Marvel Marvel character or something.

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but he wouldn't be God and he

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and he if he wasn't all that, then he would

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>have a creator himself, or he would have a father himself. Right,

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>this is a weird rabbital for some reason I got into.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 1>But I'm trying to walk down the path because I

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>believe this is a strange email because of the lowercase

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>G and this idea. Okay, where else was I going

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to go? Let me collect correct my my brain here? Oh,

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I know I know where it's going to go. The

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>idea that you're that there is home that you're being

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>called to and you're not there now, but it's out there,

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and then you go at the last sent it says,

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 1>especially when you're living an incredibly miserable life. So in

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>other words, Jackie, you are painting a picture of this

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>calling that mother Earth, God is calling you to and

0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel a sense of home, and you're living a

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>miserable life. Now, well that's interesting because if you walk

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>down that path a little bit. C. S. Lewis had

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 1>this idea that if we have a sense that there

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>is something greater than any desire we could possibly achieve

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>here on this earth, then we must not be from

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 1>this earth, and all of us can testify. No matter

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>who you are, no matter what you believe, your conscience

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>betrays you because you have felt at some point a

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 1>feeling that there has to be something better than this,

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>especially if you look at like celebrities and people that

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>have achieved a lot, or that have a lot of

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>money or have the world and still seem unhappy and

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>uncontent and like they can't quite get what they want.

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like that you two songs still haven't found what

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for. That testifies that maybe there is something

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>else out there.

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we don't belong.

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:29.240
<v Speaker 1>To this life right, like, maybe there is something bigger

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and something greater to look forward to. A Christian would

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 1>say it's a longing for heaven. And Christians know that

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>we it's healthy to cultivate a longing for heaven because

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>we could satisfy that desire that you have.

0:34:44.239 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Right now and we can go.

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm struggling right now, but I know I'm not home,

0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and I know that I have a cultivated longing for heaven,

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and because of that, there is a contentment that comes

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>with this life now, Like I have a sense of

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>contentment here and I know that I have a purpose here,

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>and I don't have to think that maybe Mother Earth,

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>God is calling me to garden in another place with

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>my husband, with land and acreage, and that's gonna make

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 1>everything better. Like if I just go to this land

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>and garden with my kids and my husband gets finally

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>gets off the road, then I'll be happy. Then this

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>miserable life will be worth living. You know, Jackie, you

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 1>know that is not true. You have all the data.

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>We have all the data points and the evidence that

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>testifies against that idea that the grass.

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Is not greener.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.440
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't take much to know, to talk to people,

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>to see on TV, to watch to read history. The

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>grass always seems greener, and it is not true. So

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>what you're left with is if you know the grass

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:03.439
<v Speaker 1>is not greener, that this life doesn't exist, that hypothetically

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you go and you just live this life and it's

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 1>all better because you know you're listening to Mother Earth God.

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 1>If you know that that's not true, you're left with

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>a really big problem. You're left with the incredible of

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>your words, the incredibly miserable life that you're currently living.

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>What do you do about that. I'm not going to

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>go too much in depth because I do a lot

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.239
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast and I always like to go a

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit different directions sometimes, especially for the people that

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>listen all the time. But I'll go this email, I'll

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>go this way. This god you're you're referring to, and

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>we already kind of had this discussion about if there

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:49.320
<v Speaker 1>is one god or multiple gods, there can't be multiple gods.

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:49.760
<v Speaker 2>It can't.

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>It cannot happen because one would have to exist before another.

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>If there was thousands of gods, there would have to

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:02.280
<v Speaker 1>be one that bird the other gods there, they couldn't

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>all have come into existence at the same time. In fact,

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>if any of them came into existence, then they also

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be God. The only being that would qualify to

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>be God is a being that didn't come into existence.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>It always was, and always is and always will be God.

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Nothing else makes sense. And the idea that there is

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>no God also doesn't make any sense because something can't

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>come from nothing. And so if anything, if something exists,

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:39.720
<v Speaker 1>anything exists, it had to have come from something, because

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:43.880
<v Speaker 1>everything comes from something. And so if there is anything,

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>it had to have come from something, and that something

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>has to be God. And if if it came from God,

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>then God has to be the only thing that has

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>always pre existed. Like this is not this is not

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>deep theology, this is not deep systematic religion, whatever. This

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>is just just thinking. We're thinking around the campfire, right.

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 1>It's a good it's a good discussion in the cab

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>of a truck. And so here's here's my point, Jackie.

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>If there is one God, which we I think I

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>just made an argument for, don't you think that God

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>would have made a way to communicate with its creation

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:35.359
<v Speaker 1>or do you think God made its creation and let

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>it spin out of control? And wonder if there's a

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>map in the stars or something in the dirt of

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the earth that leads like national treasure, This strange cryptic

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 1>roadmap to happiness instead of living a miserable life. If

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:58.279
<v Speaker 1>you dig deep enough in this garden, you'll find the

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>secret hidden that leads you if you follow closely to

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a secret life that's waiting for you with some acreage

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and a husband that's not on the road, and this

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>cryptic God leaves these breadcrumbs.

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Does that sound right to you?

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Once again talking about all knowing, all powerful, all sovereign,

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>pre existed before everything. Don't you think that being that

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>God through his creation would make a way to communicate

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>with them. That's what I want you to chew on

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and then come back next week. Chew on that, think

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>about it, Jackie, and let's talk. Next question says, hey, Grae,

0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeking your advice on how to leave someone you love.

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty four and I've been in an on and

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:54.399
<v Speaker 1>off relationship with my boyfriend for ten years. We grew

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.839
<v Speaker 1>up together and he is my first everything. As a

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>young couple, we picked up toxic behavehavior that we've been

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>fighting to break free of the last five years. We

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>have been really worried or excuse me, We've been really

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 1>working hard on us and overcoming many obstacles However, I

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>can no longer deny the fact that he isn't my forever.

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.800
<v Speaker 1>He isn't a bad man. He is my best friend.

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>He is very kind giving, and I know we'll be

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 1>an amazing husband slash father someday. We're in the middle

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:33.959
<v Speaker 1>of building our first house together. However, our religious beliefs, standards,

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and worth ethics do not line up, and we still

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>fall into old, toxic habits more than I'd like. I

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>now have a wondering eye for something better, and I

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.759
<v Speaker 1>know that that's not fair to either of us. I

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>had a wife. I had a wife mentality of not

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>leaving him although we are not legally married. What does

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:01.719
<v Speaker 1>it mean to feel like it's still a sin to

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>leave even though you're not married. I don't want to

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 1>hurt him. I love him, So how.

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Do I leave?

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your I appreciate your time and feedback, and

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>for all that you do. You've encouraged me and strengthened

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>my relationship with God, and that is a gift I

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>could never repay you for. I'd like to remain anonymous.

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Recapping from a brain here. Anonymous, twenty four years old

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>in a ten year relationship with your boyfriend. You guys

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>are your first everything. We all understand what you mean

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>by that. And I'm trying to find are you living? Oh,

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you're building hang on a second.

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Last five years, on and off. I get it.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't like him anymore. You love him, but you

0:41:56.040 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 1>don't like him, right that old saying he isn't bad.

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 1>To get it, to get it, he's going to be

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>amazing for someone. I get it. You're in the middle

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>of building a house. Why why are you building a

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>house together? I don't understand that.

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 2>You're different.

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:17.839
<v Speaker 1>You got different religions, different standards, different worth ethics. Why

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>can't I say that anytime it comes up? Old habits toxic?

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>You have a wondering eye, you have a not leaving mentality,

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you're not legally married. And then you come back to

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>saying you're getting stronger with God and you don't want

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>this to be a sin to leave. Okay, this is

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 1>weird and I gotta be honest with you. Anonymous, your

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>sinate says, what does it mean to feel like it's

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>sin to leave even though you're not married. It's not

0:42:57.239 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>sin to leave, it's sin to stay in this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that for a second. It's not sin to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sin to stay. I don't want to hurt him.

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<v Speaker 1>Irrelevant say I don't want to hurt him. That's irrelevant

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<v Speaker 1>because guess what you're doing hurting him by staying. See,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the problem. It's not that you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt him. That's not the that's not the issue, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you loved him, you'd tell him the truth and

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<v Speaker 1>you would break this off as quickly as possible, pulling

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<v Speaker 1>a band aid off. But that's not the case. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not that you don't want to hurt him, it's that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to see him hurt by you and

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad and guilty about it. This is really about you, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is. This is about you. This is about

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<v Speaker 1>you wanting to hang on, check out, just in case

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you're maybe you're wrong, like maybe he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get better, maybe things will start lining up a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better. He was your first everything, so that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of convenient to keep the first one and around you

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<v Speaker 1>know that way, you don't have to have to explain

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<v Speaker 1>that to other people other relationships. But the truth is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about hurting him. This is about you, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely hurting him. Right now, you're hurting him by

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<v Speaker 1>emailing me saying I'm in a toxic relationship. We're building

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<v Speaker 1>a house together, and I want to leave, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>hurting him by not telling him this. So your question

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<v Speaker 1>is how do I leave? Well, it depends on how

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<v Speaker 1>brave you are, because if you're brave, you will set

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<v Speaker 1>up a meeting and you will you'll say, look, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>lookim right in the eye, and you'll sit across from

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<v Speaker 1>each other in two chairs, and you'll put your hands

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<v Speaker 1>on his knees and you'll say, I love you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I can no longer do this relationship. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be moving on and there's no chance of us

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<v Speaker 1>getting back together. It's nothing you did, It's just I

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<v Speaker 1>have fallen out of believing that this is going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>There's too many factors, religion, standards, worth that ethic.

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<v Speaker 2>I can still can't say that. Worry y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't line up. And I know we're building a house,

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>so that makes things complicated. I want to do X

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 1>y Z to pull myself out of this contract or

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<v Speaker 1>if your name's on it and I need to move on, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>my heart is I don't want to hurt you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I realize that dragging it out is hurting you. The

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<v Speaker 1>longer I go hurts you worse. So please hear my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you in this very specific, blunt, truthful way

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<v Speaker 1>so that you have a fair chance at moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>finding someone and becoming a great husband and great father,

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<v Speaker 1>which I know you will. Okay, and then you say

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, and this is goodbye, And at that

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 1>point love means just love because they're an image bearer

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<v Speaker 1>of God and they're a friend. But it's not romantic love.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. That's what you do. If you're brave.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not so brave, you send a text message,

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<v Speaker 1>in a phone call FaceTime. If you're less brave than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you leave a letter, and you leave like an old

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<v Speaker 1>country music song. And if you're less brave than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you disappear, which you can't do anymore because of social media.

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<v Speaker 1>So you owe after ten years, you owe him a

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<v Speaker 1>face to face conversation, and you owe.

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<v Speaker 2>Him this as soon as possible.

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