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Speaker 1: Lute force. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Software Radio Special Operations, Military Nails on

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? If you knew what's in my head,

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Speaker 2: my next guest is Michael Michael Chriscilla.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show. Michael, First of all, welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, sate you nailed it. Appreciate that you're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for making sure I nailed it. Now let me

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Speaker 2: just kind of bring my listener up to speed about Michael.

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Speaker 2: Michael Chriscilla, Chief Warrant Officer three, retired president and co founder.

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Speaker 2: This is of biz sergeant dot com. Okay, so I'm

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Speaker 2: reading your bio off of biz sergeant dot com, which

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Speaker 2: is where you work out of with a former guest,

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Speaker 2: Chris Hallberg. But let me finish your bio real quick.

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Speaker 2: So Michael was US Army Special Forces green Beret. He

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Speaker 2: has a Silver Star for valor, a Bronze Star, a

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Speaker 2: purple Heart because he was wounded in combat. He's twenty

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Speaker 2: plus years elite Special Operational Forces and Operations. He has

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Speaker 2: an MBA. He's transitioned to civilian life in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four four to help veterans win theirs and he leads

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Speaker 2: all day to day business operations of all veteran community leadership,

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Speaker 2: development and placement operations at biz sergeant dot com and

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Speaker 2: that's bi Z sgt dot com. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure to have you here, Michael.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me Rid. This is a this

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Speaker 5: is a pleasure and her to be on Soft Rerep Radio.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So you know what's cool is my father was a

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Speaker 2: nineteenth Group guy and eighteen Echo and for those of

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Speaker 2: you out there, that's a radio guy on the team,

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Speaker 2: you know. And as we were getting ready to do

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Speaker 2: this show, we were kind of going back and forth.

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Speaker 2: I had some technical issues on my side. I just

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Speaker 2: couldn't give up, and I was like, no, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: freak out, bro, but something just kept calm inside of me.

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Speaker 2: And as we were joking, You're like, hey, wait to

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Speaker 2: just want to shout out to my dad. Yeah, one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent, you know. And my mom also, who hangs

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Speaker 2: out next to his flag with her photo. She's just

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Speaker 2: going off as a Green Beret, and Dad coming home

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Speaker 3: I grew up in that culture.

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Speaker 2: I was doing pls off of picnic tables at nine

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Speaker 4: They probably encouraging that.

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Speaker 2: Man, Oh dude, They're like, here, let's this how you

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Speaker 3: The sixty five foot cliff.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, my scout Master's like, well, this

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Speaker 2: Can he get permission to do the sixty five foot thing?

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Speaker 2: And they're like, yeah, but put a helmet on. I

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Speaker 2: You guys are will you guys wear helmets? We never

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Speaker 4: But anyway, that's awesome. Man.

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Speaker 5: I can relate a little bit because my dad was

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Speaker 5: that's super cool as a as a young man, a

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Speaker 2: It really is, you know, I mean what eleven, twelve

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Speaker 3: I'm like, good, good, good, good good good.

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Speaker 2: And he just kind of like takes it from me,

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Speaker 2: you know, because it's just so heavy and I'm just

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Speaker 2: that's good, you know, like hollering at me, and uh

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Speaker 2: you know, my dad did tell me one time though

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Speaker 2: maybe you're you could relate is He's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I introduced you at such a young age

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Speaker 2: to this world, is what he said. Because today I

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Speaker 5: We need to talk after this, right because we're putting

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Speaker 5: something together with Kyle stein Er. We're looking at doing

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Speaker 5: a leadership development I guess a field day of sorts

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Speaker 5: up in Wisconsin with Kyle. He'd probably be another guest.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you've had him on previously, but

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Speaker 5: he's setting to get out of the military here soon

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Speaker 5: and we're looking for some airsoft and things of that

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Speaker 4: So definitely let's keep in touch.

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Speaker 3: On it, please, you know, And and so far, so good.

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Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that I appreciate

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Speaker 2: all you've done for our country, from me to you.

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Speaker 2: You know, yes, And I'm sure that you know your

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Speaker 2: You know, you're not after the purple heart. My dad

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Speaker 5: And so yeah, it's also you can look at it

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Speaker 2: After that, How did you, let's just dive into the

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Speaker 2: purple heart. Please tell me what was the situation like

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Speaker 4: So we think we're on the second or third mission.

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Speaker 5: And uh So, as we were entering that room, I

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Speaker 5: This was actually my last mission on a team, like

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Speaker 2: Well, I love you, and I just want you to

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Speaker 2: know that I'm sorry that you had to endure all

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Speaker 2: And and do you have any airborne UH close calls

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Speaker 5: even I don't think I reported that, which is again

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Speaker 2: You know, he was like forty percent, sixty percent deny, denied,

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Speaker 2: It was just consistently having to submit paperwork and submit

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Speaker 3: You know, what did you go out with a rating?

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Speaker 5: And you know, those those things that they're dealing with

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Speaker 5: least get get documented. And when those continuously get swept

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Speaker 2: you literally bent over at MEPs somewhere in your life

438
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: and showed them you're brown round to say I'm okay,

439
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 2: and the docs like, you're good to go, dude. We

440
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 2: checked your oil, we checked your fluids. You can lift things,

441
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 2: you can bend over. And then you get out and

442
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 2: you're like, I can't do those things. Oh, but it

443
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 2: was all existed prior to service, right existed prior to enlistment.

444
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: Those things were bound to break on you at some point.

445
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 2: You're like, bro, No, like, just like, give the soldiers

446
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 2: and the military personnel their rightful benefits out.

447
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 3: Of the gate.

448
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: Whether you serve a day and you break your leg

449
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: in boot camp where you serve you know, twenty seven years,

450
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: and and you have all these different you know, ten

451
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 2: to fifteen years of injuries that you know get aggregated

452
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 2: together to cause you issues. I'm just all for, you know,

453
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 2: advocacy for a veterans benefits.

454
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 3: That's me personally, Yeah, no doubt.

455
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 5: And you know what, I think the community, the VET

456
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 5: community at large, is doing a really good job of

457
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 5: or at least a better.

458
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 4: Job than it existed.

459
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 5: From understanding you know, even ten or twenty years ago,

460
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 5: is just having one having the resources and really and two,

461
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 5: you know, just spreading the knowledge that these things exist.

462
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 5: So I mean that that's if it's in the name of,

463
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 5: you know, taking taking care of of our vets and

464
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 5: adding value to their lives.

465
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 4: Like I really like the trajectory.

466
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 3: That we're on, you know.

467
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 2: I'll say also that I want to give my mom

468
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 2: a shot out because she became an advocate for veterans,

469
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: not only my father, but other veterans in the area

470
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: where we lived would come to my mom and say, hey, Vicky,

471
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: you helped your husband get to where he needs to

472
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 2: be rated wise, can you help me? And she never

473
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 2: charged a dime. She would spend all of her precious

474
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: time helping others so that they could see their benefits

475
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: come to them. Even airman there was an Air Force

476
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: guy master sergeant just always had a lot of stuff

477
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 2: going on with him and she was able to help

478
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 2: him get raided to one hundred percent. And you know,

479
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: there's there needs to be you know, that type of

480
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: advocacy out there. They're not looking for any money off

481
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 2: of it, just to help the individual get there. But

482
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: that's just the kind of culture I was raised in.

483
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, hey, you know, fight for those

484
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: who fought for us.

485
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no doubt. I mean it's something that I

486
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 4: took for granted.

487
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 5: You know, I've been out for about a year and

488
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 5: a half now, but when when you're part of the community,

489
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 5: you just kind of you take it for granted, like okay,

490
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 5: Like essentially my entire adult life was in the military.

491
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 4: I joined after college when I was twenty two.

492
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I just you get you get used to

493
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 5: being around those kind of people, and you know, of

494
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 5: course this is how.

495
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 4: Organizations, you know act.

496
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 5: Everybody's got their everybody's got each other's back life or death,

497
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 5: and you know, all that good stuff.

498
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 4: And you quickly learned when when you're out.

499
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 5: That you know or other organizations you know, do not

500
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 5: operate like that, that levels of trust are not nearly

501
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 5: where they are you know, in the military and and everything.

502
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 5: You know, I mean, trust is a is a major factor,

503
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 5: you know, in in in most organizations, and you know,

504
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 5: just the fact that they just, uh, it's you know,

505
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 5: it's it's kind of tied to purpose and uh and

506
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 5: passion for for a lot of folks. So yeah, definitely,

507
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 5: you know, I personally took it for granted. And uh,

508
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 5: but you know that's uh, that's honestly one of the

509
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 5: reasons that.

510
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 4: You know, uh we started up business Sergeant, is.

511
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 5: To help uh, you know, basically fill some gaps for

512
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 5: for some of the folks that are you know, maybe

513
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 5: not on the uh the physical side of things ailing,

514
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 5: but that could use a little bit of help as

515
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 5: far as you know, uh business and and and the

516
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 5: transition of sorts, which is really in my opinion that

517
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 5: the one of the most important things that we can

518
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 5: help vets out with is instilling confidence in themselves. Specifically,

519
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 5: you know, folks that are you know, have limited to

520
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 5: no business background, you know, like that it's it's it's

521
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 5: a translation services of sorts because you know, the army

522
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 5: is you know, or the military at large is generally

523
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty years old. It's a million people

524
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 5: in the organization, give or take. That's an organization that

525
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 5: has their their processes and systems together, and you don't

526
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 5: really notice that while you're in the military, like you

527
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 5: can complain about, you know, we changed from this you know,

528
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 5: computer system to another and screwed things up, But largely speaking,

529
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 5: the military has great processes and systems, so you know,

530
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 5: what we what we aim to bring value to in

531
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 5: a lot of ways to vets is showing them that, hey,

532
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 5: you already know a lot of this stuff. It's just

533
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 5: a matter of using some different verbiage and and raising

534
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 5: their confidence up and in some things that maybe they're

535
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 5: just not familiar with.

536
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, and uh, business biz sergeant. It's it's

537
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: it's shortened right because it's b I Z s G

538
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: T dot com. Right, biz sergeant, And so that's correct.

539
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 4: You can google business sergeant and it comes.

540
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: Up right, and it pops up and and you guys

541
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: can help veterans that want to reach out to you with,

542
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: you know, tell us a little bit more exactly specifically,

543
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: like what would someone reach out to biz sergeant for?

544
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: Right, let's go there.

545
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 5: So, I mean, you could be it could be somebody

546
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 5: that is, you know, still in right now, and you

547
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 5: know they're kind of just looking a couple of years out.

548
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 5: They don't really know, you know, they're going to stay

549
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 5: in or get out. It could be somebody that is

550
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 5: actively transitioning out of the military. It could be somebody

551
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 5: that's been out for one year, five years, ten years.

552
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 5: You know, we really take take any kind of event

553
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 5: that wants to quote unquote level up. But essentially, you know,

554
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 5: the reason that Business Sergeant exists is because, you know,

555
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 5: we just think that there's a gap that that basically,

556
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 5: you know, from a from a basic fundamental level, you know,

557
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 5: just the military does not operate on a profit driven

558
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 5: you know, agenda like they are. They're actually you could

559
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 5: argue that there the opposite because I got told plenty

560
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 5: of times spend all the money or you're not going

561
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 5: to get as much money next year.

562
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: So it's it's slightly different.

563
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 5: But specifically when you talk about like sales and marketing

564
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 5: and things like that, those are completely foreign to people

565
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 5: that are in the military. So what we what we

566
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 5: look to do is just offer you know, it's a

567
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 5: it's essentially a a Leadership in Business course takes about

568
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 5: five to six hours if you jam through it. But

569
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 5: you know, on the civilian market, it's a couple grand uh,

570
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 5: it's completely free to veterans.

571
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: And then on the on the other side, we have

572
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 4: an active live community.

573
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 5: We we link up every Thursday evening and we just

574
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 5: talk about the course, we talk about how it translates

575
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 5: to business. You know, we bring in you know, outside

576
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 5: other vets that want to you know, chime in on

577
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 5: their experiences and it you know, it's just like any

578
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 5: other i'd say network or community.

579
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 4: It's uh, it.

580
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 5: Operates in order to educate, but it's also it's a

581
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 5: form of keeping people from staying isolated as well.

582
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 4: So if we can.

583
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 5: Provide like a platform that is business based, but we

584
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 5: also talk about you know, wellness, Like last night we

585
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 5: talked about taking care of number one, because you know,

586
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 5: you can't run a team or an organization if you

587
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 5: can't provide your own personal leadership.

588
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 4: You know, do those uh you know, those day.

589
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 5: To day activities that keeps you in the quote unquote

590
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 5: in the fight.

591
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 4: So you know, from.

592
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 5: A a perspective of like what we offered a vets,

593
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 5: you know, it's a it's a leadership and business course

594
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 5: that uh just looks to fill in some gaps and

595
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 5: provide community with with folks that are you know, maybe

596
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 5: in a in a position to level up. And then

597
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 5: I guess I'd be remiss not to mention you know,

598
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 5: we also help place vets.

599
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: So you know that if I were to super.

600
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: Simplify it, I would say, come join the course in community.

601
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 5: It's completely free to vents. We're going to help you,

602
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 5: uh train you up, whether it's for you know, you're

603
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 5: looking at GM job, you looking at business development, you

604
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 5: look at any anything, right like, we can we can

605
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 5: be that that uh community to help you quote unquote

606
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 5: get get a little bit trained up and then we're gonna,

607
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 5: you know, help you find a job and then we're

608
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 5: going to help you.

609
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: Support you on the backside. Which I learned.

610
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 5: As a as a recently transitioned VET as well, is

611
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 5: that I was placed as a CEO in a company

612
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: that was about one hundred people in it and uh so,

613
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 5: you know, it was it was a lot as a

614
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 5: first job out, but it was also I found myself

615
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 5: thinking this, this is I'm kind of don't have anybody

616
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 5: to talk to right now as far as this experience,

617
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 5: you know, I kind of I was figuring it out

618
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: and they imposters imposter syndrome went away.

619
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: Fairly fairly quickly.

620
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 5: But the reality is is, you know, I'm a forty

621
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 5: five year old man that's got a couple you know,

622
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 5: business degrees behind my name.

623
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 4: There's a lot of.

624
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 5: People that are you know, they just they do a

625
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 5: couple of years in the military. Uh, they do not

626
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 5: want to go to college or the university or you

627
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 5: know that's that just does not jive with their their lifestyle.

628
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 5: But they still are going to get a job and

629
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 5: be inserted into.

630
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: The market, you know, in various ways.

631
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 5: So you know, whether it's uh, you know, somebody that's

632
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 5: just uh, you know, a couple of years out of

633
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 5: at a boot camp, or somebody that's been out ten years.

634
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 5: We can help out all those people, and we can

635
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 5: do it in a number of ways, and and we

636
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 5: have been and I'm extremely proud of that.

637
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: I'm proud of you too. That's very cool.

638
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: And if your mission is what you're saying is, then

639
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, just more success towards what you guys are

640
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: doing at biz Sergeant to help out veters.

641
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: You know.

642
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: So if someone's listening right now, they can just go

643
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: to biz Sergeant uh and uh read all about if

644
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: it's the right fit for them, and then just reach

645
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: out through your website, right, that's the best way to

646
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: get to you guys.

647
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the website. You basically go on the website, you

648
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: click on uh, you know, I'm a vet. Uh.

649
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 5: Basically you have to show a little bit of proof

650
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 5: that you were a vet we're not trying to We

651
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 5: don't try to put too much obstacles in place because

652
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 5: we want it, you know, as easy as possible to

653
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 5: get to. But we've got to make sure there's not

654
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 5: any stolen ballor going on.

655
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 4: So to speak.

656
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, they can sign right up right there, completely free.

657
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 5: They can also join the live session. We post that

658
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 5: online as well, so they don't they don't even have

659
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 5: to go through it. You know, if they're just feeling

660
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 5: us out, you can come. You don't even have you know,

661
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 5: it can be camera off, mike off, you just listening.

662
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 3: You know.

663
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 5: We basically do a Q and A between me and

664
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 5: my partner who you had on I believe last week.

665
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: Right, that's right, that's right, that's right.

666
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

667
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 5: So so you know, I guess that you know, the

668
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 5: background between me and Chris is that, you know, I

669
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 5: was after that COO job. I was just kind of reorienting,

670
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 5: looking at some different options that I wanted in life,

671
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 5: and I bumped into Chris and we started talking about,

672
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 5: you know, this business sergeant concept because he's been operating

673
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 5: as the business sergeant under that moniker for for a

674
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 5: number of years. And he told me about this course

675
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 5: that he had developed and you know, a community platform.

676
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 5: He was he was just waiting to launch it, and

677
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 5: we kind of, you know, got to talking about you know,

678
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 5: the purpose of it, and that's when we basically landed

679
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 5: on offering it up to vets for free and having

680
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 5: it be a veteran you know course and community.

681
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: So you know.

682
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 5: But the background, I think, or like how we work

683
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 5: together on those live sessions is essentially I'd say that

684
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 5: we compliment each other fairly well.

685
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 4: Because, as he likes to say, he's got.

686
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 5: You know, this much military and that much business background,

687
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 5: where I have that much military and that much business background.

688
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 5: So I think the combination of those two, uh you

689
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 5: know goes very well as far as you know, being

690
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 5: at the top of the organization and specifically you know,

691
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 5: how we can you know, fill in each other's gap,

692
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 5: so to speak. And uh So on Thursday night, essentially

693
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 5: i'm i'm i'm uh i'm MCing for him, you know,

694
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 5: I uh, you know, I interviewed him kind of like

695
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 5: you're interviewing me right now, and we just talk about

696
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 5: some some course content, you know, and then you know,

697
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 5: to open Q and a throughout anybody that shows up,

698
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 5: can you know, raise their hand, we you know, address,

699
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: you know, any any experiences that they've had that are

700
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 5: you know, within the general scope of what we're talking

701
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 5: about that night.

702
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: Do you guys ever get into uh you know, uh,

703
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: you know, forecasting the plan and with a whiteboard?

704
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: Do you guys ever use a.

705
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: White Chris loves the whiteboard. Did he whiteboard with you

706
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: when he was on this podcast? He's an executive coach,

707
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: you know, he's an executive coach.

708
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 5: So from that perspective, and this is why I love

709
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 5: it as a as a former operator that you know,

710
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 5: spent the majority of my life in the Middle Terry,

711
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 5: I know the value that Chris brings. Like gues do,

712
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 5: I believe that I that I bring value to vets

713
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 5: as well. Uh you know, I have that faith in myself.

714
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 5: But you know, when I can tell people, hey, my

715
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 5: partner is an executive coach that coaches hundreds, if not

716
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: thousands of businesses and does this on the daily and

717
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 5: usually charges a lot of money to do this. And

718
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 5: I can look at any VET and say, hey, this

719
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 5: is free of charge, you know, coming go as you please.

720
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 5: You could you could just take the course. You don't

721
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 5: even have to come to the community at all. You know,

722
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 5: obviously we want to see people you know, engage, and

723
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 5: we love.

724
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: That aspect of it. But the bottom line is that

725
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 4: it's nothing but upside for the vets.

726
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 5: So you know, I can look at any vet you

727
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: know and just be like, hey, man, like, we got

728
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: this thing, check it out. Let me know if you

729
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 5: if you think that we can.

730
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: Need to tweak some things, you know, we'll take some feedback,

731
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: you know.

732
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: But but it feels good to offer that up to

733
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 5: vets because I think it's it's much needed. And specifically

734
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 5: in that, like I was saying earlier, is growing that

735
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 5: confidence for vets and and making them you know, believe

736
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 5: in themselves because you know, it can be the initial

737
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: couple steps can be a little bit you know, tough

738
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 5: at first. So if you have somebody like you know,

739
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 5: Chris and myself to kind of back you up and

740
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 5: and and uh instill that confidence and maybe give you

741
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 5: a couple of pointers along the way. You know, Chris

742
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 5: is pretty good with some of his analogies, which are

743
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 5: I don't know how much he was busting them out

744
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 5: on this uh podcast, but he's he has me rolling

745
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 5: throughout the night and some of the stuff he was

746
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 5: saying even last night, it's.

747
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: Coming to my brain right now.

748
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 5: But yeah, we have a pretty good time and uh yeah,

749
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 5: we're excited about where we're headed.

750
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: You know. He was a pretty cool guy for a cop.

751
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I got no beat with him. He didn't say

752
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: put your hands up to me, So I'm good to go, right.

753
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I love that you guys bring

754
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: this like yin and yang aspect of you know, your

755
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: careers and your business acumen, uh to the forefront.

756
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: You know.

757
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: Funny enough, Let me bring up my dad again. I

758
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: love living off of his valor. I love my father

759
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: had a master's degree in business and human resource management,

760
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: so you know, up he was moving on a doctorate

761
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: even after out of the military, so he felt. I

762
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: remember when he got his master's degree, he was very

763
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: proud of himself and he got to put he kept

764
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: his gown and his cap. He had a very special

765
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: cap and gown, you know, with all that stuff, and

766
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: he was just working on that doctor up until he

767
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: couldn't do it anymore. But I feel that I got

768
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: a lot of his business ingenuity instilled into me as

769
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: a young man, you know, growing up and being around

770
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: him and all of his guys and going up and

771
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: down the mountains, and then you know him inspiring me

772
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: to open my own skateboard shop at thirteen years old,

773
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: and so yeah, and I know that I called it

774
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: my shop, but I know that he was overwatching the

775
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: whole situation.

776
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: But you know he did interfere.

777
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: He just like, Okay, well, maybe he's like, hey, you're

778
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: going to use this inventory management system. It's daunting. It's

779
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: a task. You have to type these numbers. You got

780
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: to track everything in your shop so you don't miss it.

781
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: And I'm like, can I just use a cash register?

782
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: Can I just type thirty two dollars and selt to somebody.

783
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: He's like, no, you got to use this inventory computer

784
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: sticker and then you got to put it on the

785
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: item and then you got to type that number in

786
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 2: the system and match it up to the item.

787
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: And that's a lot of work. I just want to

788
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 3: skateboard and sell the stuff.

789
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: But you know those little tidbits that he was able

790
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: to instill in me with inventory management is today I

791
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: have successfully had I have multiple stores in Utah selling

792
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: combat gear, all the successories for war games. And every

793
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: time I just go to bed and thinking about my dad.

794
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: I just think, like, you know, you just like were

795
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: seating me the whole time, you know, like a little

796
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: moguli rolling around with all these big old I was

797
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 2: a little man cub. It's like, why is this man

798
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: cub hanging out with us? This little Mowgli kid, you

799
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 2: know from the Jungle Book. I'm like, I just want

800
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: to be a big bear one day, or maybe a jaguar.

801
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 3: I don't know.

802
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: It's great that you mentioned that, Red, because honestly, you know,

803
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 5: the way that business sergeant can grow the best in

804
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 5: my opinion, like I was a long term networker on

805
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 5: the team, so you know, we hit the ground and obviously,

806
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: as green Berets, like, we're essentially the long term solutions,

807
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 5: so we have to build networks that that will help

808
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 5: sustain us for you know, basically across across society. So

809
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,479
Speaker 5: a few business artant in the same light is that

810
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 5: you know, the community can really you know, and you're

811
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 5: a perfect example. Quite honestly, you know, I'd invite you

812
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 5: to come join the community, but really, you know, you

813
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 5: can other people that have been out and are successful

814
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: in business can can you know, as Chris was saying

815
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 5: last night, we were talking about taking care of number one.

816
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 5: You know, it's also about sending the elevator back down

817
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 5: for others. So obviously you have this great platform as well,

818
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 5: which you know does that in a sense. And business, Sergeant,

819
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 5: you know, operates in the same manners that you know,

820
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 5: there's plenty of successful vets out there. We can essentially

821
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 5: operate as a as a mentorship of sorts and you know,

822
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 5: especially as we grow, and I'm excited about you know

823
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 5: what that looks like because there's a lot of people

824
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 5: already raising their hands saying, oh, you know, you know,

825
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 5: we'll come on and I can do this that or

826
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 5: the other thing.

827
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: So it's just a matter of you know, when.

828
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 5: You talk about business that is such a wide ranging

829
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 5: you know that that's it's it's it.

830
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 4: Can be everything. They have a business for everything, you know.

831
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 5: So there's there's a tremendous amount of value that vets

832
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: can provide to other vets and if it's under the

833
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 5: you know, the umbrella of business. That's what gets me

834
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 5: excited about being part of this venture is that, you know,

835
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 5: it's basically you know, it's a way for vets to

836
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 5: help out other vets on a large scale.

837
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: Are you still the CEO the chief operating officer which

838
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: is a COO for those that may not have known

839
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: the acronym. Are you still the COO for where you

840
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: were at before or are you not fully invested at

841
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 2: BIT Sergeant?

842
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm fully invested a Bit starts. I walked away

843
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 5: from that essentially to start up this venture. Uh So,

844
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 5: the way Chris and I met is, you know a

845
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 5: lot of small businesses run something called EOS, which is

846
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 5: essentially it runs a visionary which is like I think

847
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 5: like up and out and the integrator down and in.

848
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 5: So you know, he kind of fits the visionary up

849
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 5: and out and I'm the integrator down and in. It's

850
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 5: kind of a you know, personality trait that that that

851
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 5: again makes us kind of work and fit together pretty well.

852
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: So as far as you know that goes.

853
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 5: The integrator can take on a number of different titles,

854
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 5: they're essentially the same thing.

855
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:18,959
Speaker 4: So in this.

856
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 5: Company, I'm the president, which which is integrator in the

857
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 5: last one is the COO.

858
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 4: It could be a GM, it could be a director

859
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: of ops.

860
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's just just one more way that that

861
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 5: we kind of you know, Chris. Chris said, what did

862
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 5: he say, we had a lot of fortuitous kind of

863
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: movements when we first met, basically because he was sitting

864
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 5: on this idea and and it was in a little

865
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 5: bit different form, so we you know, talked through what

866
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 5: it was going to look like. But he described it

867
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 5: as having a Ferrari in a garage with like ten

868
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 5: miles on it, and I'm like, let's go fire that

869
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 5: motherfucker up.

870
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: Bro.

871
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, let's do it. Where are you at, bro? Yeah?

872
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: So drive like, yeah, you have this machine here. It's like,

873
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: why are you not driving it?

874
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: And I'm pointing to your brain if you're listening online,

875
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: you know, I'm pointing to your head is your Ferrari.

876
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: Your garage is your head. Your brain is your Ferrari.

877
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: You know. It's like, what are you doing with it? Right?

878
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: Like I talked about the book club in the beginning?

879
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: Are you reading books?

880
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: Are you trying to you know, grow your knowledge and

881
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: your classes and your courses. Is something that would help

882
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: you know, just it's a tool for your toolbox, you

883
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: know in business. It's not like I'm not saying that

884
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: you're like got a magic wand and you're gonna you know,

885
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: be able to like save everybody, but you can give

886
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: them pieces of information that they may pull out of

887
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 2: those classes that they can then apply in their business

888
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: like oh geez, I didn't know I could. I should

889
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: have everybody clock in or clock out or you know,

890
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 2: I'll tell you What's.

891
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 5: What's been very eye opening since we started this thing,

892
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: rad is that so much of personal you know, personal

893
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 5: leadership and you know how you handle yourself, and you

894
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 5: know how you handle your team.

895
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: You can get into the.

896
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 5: Technological stuff like unless you're splitting atoms, you know you can,

897
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 5: you can you can acquire that knowledge if you're really

898
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 5: looking for let's put it that way. The Internet and

899
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 5: specifically AI these days. You know, as somebody with an

900
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 5: m B A AI, I could probably learn generally an

901
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 5: m B A online right now without it. So you know,

902
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 5: what's been standing out to me lately in our specifically

903
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 5: in our conversations, uh is.

904
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 4: Is the leadership.

905
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 5: Because the leadership stuff it it really is like the

906
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 5: glue that holds the organization together.

907
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: You know, obviously it starts.

908
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 5: With the vision and and uh you know the mission

909
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 5: and all that stuff, but like without a strong leadership

910
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 5: team and you know that goes with core values and

911
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 5: I mean, we had a discussion last night about like

912
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 5: the the values affect the numbers, and the numbers you know,

913
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 5: should affect or reflect the values, so to speak. So

914
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 5: you know, if that's off, then you start asking some

915
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 5: questions as far as you know, do I have the

916
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 5: right team in place and are we doing this properly?

917
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 5: But you know what, what I've learned and it's really

918
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 5: reinforced and it's it's a big good to see on

919
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: a on a business side of things, because you know,

920
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 5: I know it for certain in the military is that

921
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: it's the same thing applies like strong leadership. Obviously you've

922
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 5: got to have you know, the good mission and have

923
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 5: everything in place, but strong leadership will make it work.

924
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 5: And you know, all those intangibles that folks bring, you know,

925
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: from the from the military, all those you know, army

926
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 5: values and whatever they call them in the the Air

927
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 5: Force and Navy, those are absolutely you know, uh, absolutely

928
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 5: mission critical. The other stuff you can learn, you know,

929
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 5: that's that's just a couple of you know, Google's away

930
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: and for us, like I'm minimizing.

931
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 4: It a little bit, there's there's more to it, but.

932
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 5: It's definitely, yeah, there's there's more to it and really,

933
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 5: but that's where the community can kind of can can

934
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 5: kind of help out with one another. Is is filling

935
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 5: in those gaps and at the same time reinforcing Hey,

936
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 5: this other stuff is critical, Like don't get super focused

937
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 5: on the numbers or the operating system. Like the leadership

938
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: aspect of it is going to make everything else successful. Like,

939
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 5: you know, because if you don't have strong leadership, then

940
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 5: you know, you're gonna hire their own people. They're not

941
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 5: going you know, it's gonna it's gonna dwindle down. So

942
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 5: that's been really standing out to me lately, and uh,

943
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 5: you know, for good reason.

944
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: Funny enough, yesterday I was clocking out with my guys

945
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: because we all work together at our shops and I'm

946
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: always in the shops and you can always find me there. Uh,

947
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: And I told my guy, Hey, I'm gonna take all

948
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: the trash out. I'll take all the cardboard boxes out.

949
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: We got two pallets in. I'll go put the pallettes

950
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: in the storage area, because we take the pallette out

951
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: to our property and build castles out of palletts so

952
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: we can fight through them like shoot houses. So I'm like,

953
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I'm gonna take the pallette out

954
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: to the storage area. I'm gonna take all the cardboard

955
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: boxes out to the trash. I'm gonna take all the

956
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: trashes in the building and dub them all into it

957
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: and take them all out for you Xanders, so you

958
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: can close up the shop tonight.

959
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: And he's my employee, you see.

960
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: So when I come back into the shop and I

961
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: take my jacket off, and it's raining outside here, and

962
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: there's a last minute straggler walked in to get some

963
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: airfill for his gun, so we fill up the air

964
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: tanks there and he's like, hey, I just I know

965
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: you guys are closing. Can I just get my air filled?

966
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, don't mind me. I was

967
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: just taking the trash out. He's like, yeah, where's your

968
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: boss at anyways? And I was like, yeah, where is

969
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: that guy?

970
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 3: You know?

971
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 2: Like you know, you know, so the whole thing about

972
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: being the chief bottle washer, the chief janitor, the chief seller,

973
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: the chief Internet operating you know, provider for your.

974
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: Systems going down?

975
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 2: You know, how many fires are put into my lap

976
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: as a business firefighter is what I like to call it.

977
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: I had to put all these fires out, So yeah,

978
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't mind a control burn that I'm in charge of.

979
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, oh, yeah, I know we're burning that.

980
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: That's okay.

981
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: We're just burning the weeds out of the ditch so

982
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: the waterflows smoothly. We'll let that burn. But then you

983
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: got something blazing. You're like, I got to put that out.

984
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: Man.

985
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: It's like point of seil goes down middle of Black Friday.

986
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: I like, oh, how do I How do I do

987
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: I freak out and like freak everybody else out in

988
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: the shop with like thousands of dollars on the line,

989
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: or do I have to stay calm, cool and collected

990
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: and just stay okay, Hey, I got this. And people

991
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: are very compassionate. They're like, we understand we've all been

992
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: in some type of a snaf foo, go ahead and

993
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: get it fixed.

994
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: Rad.

995
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: In fact, you were graceful to me today when I

996
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: was dealing with my whole tech issue. You're like, Rad,

997
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: I'll be right here, bro, And I'm like, I appreciate that.

998
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: Thank you.

999
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So, first of all, thanks for that. But again,

1000
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, just being hands on and being in the

1001
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: business and you know, hiring the right people. I hired

1002
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: people who punch out of their job at the end

1003
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: of the day and then they come back twenty minutes

1004
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: later to hang out and talk to their customers that

1005
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: are still in the shop off the clock.

1006
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, I love I love free labor. Is that

1007
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: what that is?

1008
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, I got a competitive advantage, honestly, rad Like,

1009
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 5: I would talk to the less CEO that I worked for,

1010
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 5: and you know, I identified it pretty early on, and I'm

1011
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 5: sure I have been identified, you know, but as somebody

1012
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 5: that was newer to the organization.

1013
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: You know.

1014
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 5: At one point I had a it was a company meeting,

1015
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 5: and I asked, you know, the basically all the managers.

1016
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: I think there was like twenty people in the room.

1017
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 5: They raise your hand if you came from a competitor,

1018
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 5: and like half the room raised.

1019
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 4: Their hand and I'm like, why are you here?

1020
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 5: And you know, basically all the general theme was the

1021
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 5: other competition is a bunch of a holes. They do

1022
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 5: not take care of people, you know, they are just

1023
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 5: i mean, some of the stories I was hearing was

1024
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 5: just kind of just out of control. And I'm like,

1025
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 5: I mean it's pretty clear to me. The competitive advantage

1026
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 5: is the core values, the core values of that company

1027
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 5: and it was it was up on the wall and

1028
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 5: they were it was lived. It was you know, similar

1029
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 5: to you know military assessment or you know yearly assessments.

1030
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: You know, you go over like the Army values and

1031
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 5: that that's in your documentation.

1032
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: How you reflect that it's the same thing. It was

1033
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: the same thing at that company.

1034
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 5: And I was like, you know, this is this is not,

1035
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 5: without a doubt, a competitive advantage. So it sounds like

1036
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 5: you have a some other competitive bantage with your business.

1037
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: You know, and my business partner and I we believe

1038
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: in a very like you know, hey, get it done approach,

1039
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: just we know what needs to get done.

1040
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 3: You know it needs to get done.

1041
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: And we hired you to not be you know, collared.

1042
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: Like if I'm going to say, you know, I'm just

1043
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 2: going to release you and let you go, and you're

1044
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: going to run out there and do your job and

1045
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: if I blow the whistle, just come back. But I'm

1046
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: not here to like tell you how to go do

1047
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: that specific I hired you to do that job. Like

1048
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 2: you as an s F guy, okay, as you're what

1049
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: was your series? Were you eighteen? I know you're a

1050
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: WARRAN officer, but we're like eighteen.

1051
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 5: I was a medic before that, I'll say eighteen delta

1052
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 5: delta first half of my career, and then I was

1053
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 5: a warrant as a one AD alpha.

1054
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: Where would I ever, where would I ever say? Okay,

1055
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: now listen, here's what I need you to do for me, Michael.

1056
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: I need you to go and do what you do best,

1057
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: but over there, okay, and then just call me when

1058
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: it's done.

1059
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: And you're like, yeah, Rad, that's what I like. Hands

1060
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: off approach.

1061
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: I can't tell you his appendix is in his throat

1062
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: when it's in this stomach, you know, like the whole

1063
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: spies like us, the appendix is down here, right.

1064
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: It's like, that's I got to trust you. I hired

1065
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 3: you to do that job.

1066
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1067
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: But you know, as a leader comes down to making

1068
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 5: sure that you know people understand what obviously, it starts

1069
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 5: with job description and what what.

1070
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 4: They are and aren't.

1071
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 5: Like guardrail, so to speak, So you want to provide

1072
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: some flexibility, but there has to be some structure as well,

1073
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 5: so that you know they can essentially operate as if

1074
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 5: you're not there. That's what a lot of founders struggle with,

1075
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 5: you know, the moment that they step away things start

1076
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 5: to fall apart, which I think is you know, something

1077
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 5: that that a lot of people just generally struggle with

1078
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 5: because it's you know, it's hard to to let go.

1079
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes give up the keys to the car. So here's

1080
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 3: the key the case.

1081
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially if you've dedicated you know, a couple of

1082
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 5: decades of your life to uh, you know, to get

1083
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 5: something to a certain point. You know, it takes a

1084
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 5: lot to kind of you know, hand it over to somebody,

1085
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 5: you know, but that's that's something that yeah, yeah, no,

1086
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 5: trust it. We just had a long conversation about trust

1087
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 5: last night. Chris was opening up on you know, somebody

1088
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 5: that he was working with that you know, was just

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Speaker 5: struggling with trust.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about like this went back to you know,

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00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 5: the client's parents so to speak, and some things that

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00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 5: they were dealing with, you know, from your very young age,

1094
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 5: and how that you know, is showing itself in business.

1095
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: So you know, getting over those hurdles. It's it's sometimes

1096
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 5: easier said than done, you know, but as long as

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00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 5: you can identify that that those kind of gaps or

1098
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 5: issues or just circumstances exist, then at least you know

1099
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 5: you've acknowledged that Hey, this is where we're at and

1100
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 5: this is where we want to go.

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.

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00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: Biz Sergeant dot Com, you guys are classy.

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00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: I thanks man for sure.

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00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: I love it.

1105
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: You got a great zeus look coming through on the camera.

1106
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: If you're watching to this, I'm gonna tell you right now,

1107
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: bro like that great coming through. It's it's rock and

1108
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: roll dude. Okay, nice, appreciate it, and good jobs to.

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Speaker 3: Good job Zeniel. Okay, forty five year old.

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Speaker 2: I'm four, and I appreciate your efforts, and you know,

1111
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your service and for your

1112
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: time today and working with me through the technical difficulties.

1113
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm only human, so you know, I appreciate that. And

1114
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: talk of business, I love it, and I would love

1115
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 2: to have you back on the show where we can

1116
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: have just a really nice, another clean conversation about business

1117
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: and you know, growing your business acumen as a veteran.

1118
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: And you know, one thing I want to point out

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Speaker 2: is a lot of people say, you know, how did

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00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: you become self employed?

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00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: Rad?

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00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, in order to be an entrepreneur,

1123
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 2: you kind of got to be unemployed. Okay, so when

1124
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: you're unemployed, you start to hustle for yourself, you start

1125
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: to do the things that you need to do to survive,

1126
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: and so you know, that's what makes an entrepreneur.

1127
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: So if you've got to get out there.

1128
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Speaker 2: And hustle for yourself, if you want to reach out

1129
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: to me on Instagram, or you want to reach out

1130
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: to BIS sergeant who focuses specifically on.

1131
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 3: Helping you do these types of things.

1132
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: As a veteran, I just want to, you know, toss

1133
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: their hat in the ring of someone that you look

1134
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: at or scroll check them out, you know, go check

1135
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: them out if they have social media any of that,

1136
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: look into them, you know, say what's in it for them,

1137
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: what's in it for you and making the right decision.

1138
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: But I want to introduce you to my new friend

1139
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: right here, Michael Chriscilla, who is there to help you

1140
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: with his yin, and then his buddy who's there to

1141
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: help you with the yang Chris. Okay, so the yin

1142
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: and the yang abyss Sergeant, And I don't know if

1143
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: you have anything else to say, but I think you've

1144
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 2: been a wonderful guest.

1145
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 5: No really, the last thing I would close with is,

1146
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 5: you know, just thanking you for having me on red.

1147
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 5: You know, obviously you know the SEFTWROP Radio has been

1148
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 5: you know, helping out vets and you know obviously it

1149
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 5: goes beyond vits, so it just what you provide to the.

1150
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 4: To the community as well.

1151
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: Wanted to personally thank you, you know, for doing what you.

1152
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 3: Do well, thank you for that.

1153
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: And I'm going to keep doing it and I'm going

1154
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: to keep you know, rowing the ship, beating the drums

1155
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: on the boat and sometimes holding the compass.

1156
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 3: Sometimes I make the chowl on the.

1157
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 2: Boat because we all have different jobs and everybody gets

1158
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 2: tired and we got to do someone else's kids. So

1159
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: thank you for coming on board with me today. And

1160
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Speaker 2: you know, I just want to say again it's biz

1161
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Speaker 2: Sergeant dot com. So if you're following along this long

1162
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: on the episode, you already know it's a B I

1163
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Speaker 2: Z Sgt dot com and it's gonna be down below

1164
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Speaker 2: so you can just click on it if you're at

1165
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: softwap dot com.

1166
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: And this is going to go out everywhere YouTube.

1167
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio just so you know, so if you're listening, thank

1168
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: you and again to Brandon Webb who is the master

1169
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: and commander of the ship here at soft Rep and

1170
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: to all of our everybody else that helps row and

1171
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: hold the compass like Callum Gia Logan, Xander guy. All

1172
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: you guys, we really appreciate you and I want you

1173
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: to keep on doing what you're doing because we're doing

1174
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: a good thing. As we just heard from our man

1175
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: over here, Michael Chrissella. So Michael on behalf of all

1176
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: of us here at soft rep I want to say

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00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: thanks again and go check out biz sergeant dot com.

1178
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Speaker 2: And this is rad with Soft Reap Radio saying peace.

1179
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Speaker 1: You've been listening to self Red Ladia