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Speaker 1: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Everybody. Welcome into Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Joe Rico, joined by two very special

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Speaker 2: guests today as we're going to be taking part in

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Speaker 2: some ADP battles, going position by position, helping you out

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Speaker 2: with some of the tougher calls you're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: make on draft day. I'm joined by two very good

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Speaker 2: friends and two mentors of mine that I've known pretty

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Speaker 2: much since I got started in the space, Flat Sadler

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Speaker 2: from FTN Fantasy and Rob Silver, co host of the

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Speaker 2: Launch Angle podcast. Guys, thank you so much for making

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Speaker 2: time today. I really appreciate you hopping on.

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Speaker 3: An absolute pleasure and honestly know no one better or

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Speaker 3: more fun to battle with than a retired attorney and

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Speaker 3: super sharp dude and rub.

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Speaker 4: It's it's when you say mentors, I think you just

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Speaker 4: mean people much older than I am. So Joe, I'll

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Speaker 4: take that as a compliment, not as a backhanded compliment,

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Speaker 4: but great to.

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Speaker 1: Be here totally as I know it is.

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Speaker 5: Yahause, it's great to be here.

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Speaker 2: I remember my first time in Arizona at first pitch

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Speaker 2: and all of us sitting around the back table outside

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Speaker 2: just getting to know everybody, and it's crazy it's been

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Speaker 2: five years, but you guys are two of the absolute best,

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Speaker 2: two of the truly two of the best high stakes

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Speaker 2: fantasy baseball players in the world. So we're gonna be

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Speaker 2: picking their brain today on like I said, some of

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Speaker 2: those tougher calls that we're gonna have to make on

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Speaker 2: draft Day before we get into the meat and potatoes

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Speaker 2: of the show. Though Rob, I know you will had

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Speaker 2: a point you wanted to make about rookies and potentially

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Speaker 4: Was more intended on the off chanse Vlatt and I

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Speaker 4: agreed on everybody, and just to be clear, we're doing

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Speaker 4: like these player battles.

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Speaker 5: I think Flatt and I with over the years, we.

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Speaker 4: Have had disagreements on guys, which is natural, Like it

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Speaker 4: would be life would be too boring if we agreed

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Speaker 4: on everybody. But the interesting thing is you sent us

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Speaker 4: a list of like fifty potential matchups, and I think

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Speaker 4: more than most years, Flatt and I agreed on the

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Speaker 4: a really boring podcast if we went through like no,

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Speaker 4: I agree, I too agree it's just not that interesting.

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Speaker 4: But it's interesting how much we agree on so many

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Speaker 4: of the guys this year, I think, and it's more

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Speaker 4: an observation. We can get into it for we fill

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Speaker 4: So I think in the industry as a whole, where

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Speaker 4: I think it's fair to say that there was. We

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Speaker 4: were always drawn by the shiny new thing. We were

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Speaker 4: let's it go? And they went real early and sometimes

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Speaker 4: it worked out, sometimes it didn't worked out. I think

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Speaker 4: it's been very noticeable to me. And it starts like

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Speaker 4: For the kids they just saw? But it hasn't really

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Speaker 4: I think it's what's interesting is it's it's the whole

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Speaker 2: I think it's a really good point. I like both

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Speaker 1: But it just it.

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Speaker 4: Every time I McGonagall or Connor Griffin or any of

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Speaker 4: So I think that it will pull in different directions,

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Speaker 2: No really really interesting point. The rookies are always a

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Speaker 4: And what's what's funny is I heard a lot of

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Speaker 4: We have Derek Carty this week on the Law Nchangle

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Speaker 4: and he's very big on like how can you pay

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Speaker 4: The rate of return on these guys is actually extremely good.

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Speaker 4: There are examples where it's like, oh that didn't Evan

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Speaker 4: there are absolutely examples of fales. You can say that

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Speaker 4: about warring old guys though too, so that's not a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: As you guys can probably hear, we're going to be

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Speaker 2: talking more along the high stakes lines today. But I've

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Speaker 1: Do you have a strong opinion here between Baldwin and Ramirez.

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Speaker 5: Couple of days a week.

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Speaker 4: I just have a lot of confidence in Baldwin's The

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Speaker 3: He's getting better. He had eighty RBIs as the rookie.

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Speaker 2: I think I agree. I think that's a that's a

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll not to argue the other side. What

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Speaker 4: He's not going to seal you the bases, obviously. If

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Speaker 3: the vibes in Philadelphia, whereas I very much do in Atlanta.

435
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Speaker 3: And this is profar excluded because I think, you know,

436
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Speaker 3: some people knew that that was coming, and you Knowcunya

437
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 3: is healthy. I think that's really key for them. But

438
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Speaker 3: for me, what it comes down to is I just

439
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Speaker 3: trust matt Olsen a whole lot more to play baseball games.

440
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Speaker 3: And he has had four consecutive seasons of one hundred

441
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Speaker 3: and sixty two games full seasons. He's literally the iron Man.

442
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Speaker 3: The last time Ronald Acunya was fully healthy, matt Olsen

443
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Speaker 3: had like the all time season, it was like almost

444
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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty runs batted in fifty four homers,

445
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Speaker 3: and I'm not expecting that, But I just think you

446
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Speaker 3: know him locked in. I just feel a lot safer

447
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 3: about him than kind of going on the Bryce Harper

448
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Speaker 3: wild ride.

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Speaker 1: Any rebuttal Rob.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna do I'm not gonna there.

451
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Speaker 4: There is no there is no bad pick amongst them.

452
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Speaker 4: What I'd say is there's I hear from some people.

453
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Speaker 4: Don't take a first base? Why take Vlad Guerrero? Why

454
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Speaker 4: take Nick Kurtz, who I know you're down on Joe,

455
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Speaker 4: so we can put Nick. I don't want to debate

456
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Speaker 4: Nick Kurtz when you can get Olsen. The reality is,

457
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Speaker 4: if you play in the NFBC and you're playing the

458
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Speaker 4: main and you want to win the Main, you need

459
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Speaker 4: almost three hundred home runs. So if you can get

460
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Speaker 4: if you were picking at the one T two turn,

461
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Speaker 4: if you have picked fourteen fifteen or sixteen or eleven

462
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Speaker 4: twelve even and Vlad comes back to you in the

463
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Speaker 4: second round, I'd have no problem taking Vlad and one

464
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Speaker 4: of these two guys because you just need to load

465
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Speaker 4: up and are there. Does it mean you're probably not

466
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Speaker 4: taking the eighteenth round first basement that you've been eyeing

467
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Speaker 4: the whole winter. Yeah, probably not. But you need stats

468
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Speaker 4: and they need to come from somewhere. So I don't

469
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Speaker 4: think that I don't buy the argument don't take early

470
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Speaker 4: first basement because of these guys. I think you can

471
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Speaker 4: use any of them, and they're all you just need production.

472
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Speaker 4: And I agree with Flad like Olson's just very reliable

473
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Speaker 4: and just being able to write those numbers into your

474
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Speaker 4: like onto your your spreadsheet or into your rotal lab

475
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Speaker 4: program or onto your piece of paper is a lot.

476
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Speaker 5: Of a lot of comfort.

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Speaker 4: And there's everything I said about rookies is true. There's

478
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Speaker 4: also something about drafting guys who you feel pretty confident

479
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Speaker 4: that you can just kind of use a pen and

480
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Speaker 4: write those stats down.

481
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, guys, Let's keep it going and we'll talk about

482
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Speaker 2: second base now. And this one maybe we have a

483
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Speaker 2: little bit more of a disagreement on Matt McClain and

484
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Speaker 2: Bryson Stott. They're both a little bit deeper than the

485
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Speaker 2: names we've talked about so far, but they're both being

486
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Speaker 2: drafted as starting second basement still despite their lower price.

487
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Speaker 2: Eleven and twelve respectively, in terms of where they're going

488
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Speaker 2: in terms of the second basement. So lad, let's start

489
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Speaker 2: with you on this one, Matt McClain and Bryson Stott,

490
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Speaker 2: the guy who has had the up and down first

491
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Speaker 2: couple of years, and McLain versus Stott, who has been

492
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say steady, Eddie, but pretty reliable over

493
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Speaker 2: the last couple of seasons. Higher potentially, where's your lean

494
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Speaker 2: on this one?

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Speaker 3: For me, it's McLain and I swear to you as

496
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Speaker 3: is not just being affected by his incredible spring training performance. Now,

497
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Speaker 3: what it is is, Okay, first of all, that first year,

498
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Speaker 3: that rookie year, if you guys remember watching those games,

499
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: the luckiest hitter in baseball, like the babbitb was through

500
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: the roof. Every ball that should have been caught, you

501
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: went somewhere, and he almost hit three hundred. Nobody thought

502
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 3: he was going to hit the next year, but then

503
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Speaker 3: he missed the whole season with the shoulder injury and surgery.

504
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Speaker 3: And then last year, myself included bought in and were fooled.

505
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Speaker 3: It was definitely a rough slide. And so the most

506
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Speaker 3: important thing I think in fantasy is to not have

507
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Speaker 3: then a built in bias, but look at things as

508
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Speaker 3: objectively as possible into the following year. This is a

509
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Speaker 3: widget or an asset. I understand it's a human. But

510
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Speaker 3: now we're assessing for this upcoming season, and Matt McClain

511
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Speaker 3: is now a full year removed, he's gone through his struggles. Yes,

512
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Speaker 3: he's gonna strike out a lot, he's not going to

513
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Speaker 3: hit it for a high average. But he's a highly

514
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Speaker 3: skilled player, a former first round pick, you know from UCLA.

515
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Speaker 3: He is, he's a stut I think he's a you know,

516
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty plus guy. I think he finds himself back

517
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Speaker 3: into the top third of the lineup. They would, you know,

518
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: the Reds would love to get you know, Noel vi

519
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: Marte consistent and hitting against lefties, but he can't, and

520
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: so Matt McClain may just you know, park in there

521
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Speaker 3: at second, hitting second in the lineup, and it's a

522
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Speaker 3: really good spot there. So I do like a bounce back.

523
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Speaker 3: I think their prices are going to there's going to

524
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Speaker 3: be there's some diversion diverging happening because I do think

525
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Speaker 3: that McClain's going to start moving up a little bit

526
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Speaker 3: and so this won't be as much of a conversation.

527
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Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a lot of risk, but I feel

528
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Speaker 3: like I would go with McLean.

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Speaker 4: So the honest answer is I haven't taken in whatever

530
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Speaker 4: is now nine drafts either of these guys. If I

531
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Speaker 4: don't get one of the top top second basement, I

532
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: like a lot of the second basement.

533
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Speaker 5: Like I'm punting's second, I'm going lead on second base.

534
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 4: But if I were going to take one, it would

535
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Speaker 4: be Stout over McLain, And the reason would be if

536
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 4: I go heavy power on my lineup beforehand.

537
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Speaker 5: Stott is just one of those.

538
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Speaker 4: Guys who I mean, you look at what he's done

539
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 4: over the last three years. Thirty one stolen bases, thirty

540
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: two stolen bases, twenty four stolen bases with enough power,

541
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Speaker 4: so double digit power, and enough batting average. If you

542
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Speaker 4: average them out, it's two fifty ish batting average. That

543
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 4: he's not killing me, So he's not a single category guy,

544
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Speaker 4: but he lets me get back into the game at

545
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Speaker 4: second base, which is a good position for me to

546
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Speaker 4: get back in the game, and stolen bases if I've

547
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: punted stolen bases, and that's the only reason why I

548
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 4: would ever consider start. It's not that I'm It's not

549
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: that I'm anti McLain. Everything Vlad said is obviously true.

550
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Speaker 4: The skills are there, it's great ballpark to have as

551
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Speaker 4: your whole as your home in great American ballpark, and

552
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 4: there's no doubt he could become a twenty twenty player.

553
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: But like I think Kevin McGonagall is a better chance

554
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 4: to being a twenty twenty player this year than he does.

555
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 4: And I'm going to still get McGonagall as of today

556
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: at least. This could change very quickly. This could change

557
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 4: by this afternoon cheaper, and I'd rather if I'm taking

558
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: a risk, and I think he really is as big

559
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: a risk as those rookies. I put him in basically

560
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: the same category as them in terms of you really

561
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: have to prove a lot for me, But I have

562
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: a pretty good feeling that you could do. So it's

563
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: not that I'm anti McClain. I just don't think I'm

564
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: getting enough of a discount for me to be interested

565
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: in him right now. And as Vlad says, every time

566
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 4: he does something in spring training and Tito FRANKCNA says

567
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 4: more nice things about him, the discount is going away.

568
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Speaker 4: It's going in the wrong direction, not the right direction

569
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 4: in terms of price.

570
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Speaker 3: The one great thing that Rob touched on that's important

571
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: to note is that there are a lot of late

572
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: second basemen in the mid two hundreds that are worth

573
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: waiting for, Like, yeah, it's the Ozzy Albi's and even

574
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: McLain if he's going up to one fifty and start, like,

575
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: I don't really want to be playing in that range.

576
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: And then on stop specifically, my big concern with him

577
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: is I don't want to mess with guys that have

578
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: extreme platoon splits. So somebody like Bryson Stott with a

579
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: sixty one WRC plus against lefties and worried about, oh,

580
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: it is Mendo Sosa going to be, you know, starting

581
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: for him against lefties? And that's already what the manager

582
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: said this week. So that means extra work during the

583
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: season to like, oh, they're playing three lefties in this period,

584
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: who do I have to on my bench or who

585
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: do I have to pick up to be able to

586
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: get him out of the lineup. So really that's my

587
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: only concern. But I think the key takeaway for us

588
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 3: is if you don't grab an early second basement, just

589
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: play in the in the later range.

590
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just to give some specific specific names.

591
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Speaker 4: And I know one of the three of us has

592
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Speaker 4: been writing up Second Basement for a website. Are we

593
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: allowed to even mention the website that you you're right

594
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: at a fangrass Joe's been doing the Second Base previews.

595
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: I love Horgate Plonko late Horgate Plonko's kind of going

596
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: to twenties range. Labor Torres if you want to talk

597
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: about not sexy but still pretty good, that's like labor

598
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: torres is in the dictionary there. Marcus Simeon, I don't

599
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 4: know how much Marcus Simeon fully bounces back, but in

600
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 4: the two forties doesn't need to bounce back that much.

601
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: He just needs to sort of stay healthy. And Marcus

602
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: Simeon canto. So like if you told is what are

603
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: the odds that McLean outperforms all three of them? Twenty

604
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 4: twenty five percent, But you're paying a big premium for that,

605
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: and that means there's a seventy five percent that one

606
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 4: of those guys, and you can pick your poison in

607
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 4: terms of what you think about of them. And there

608
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: are others also down there. So while Second Base is

609
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: not at the top, it's not very deep at the bottom.

610
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: I think it's there's a bunch of really interesting you

611
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: can ad absolutely win your league, don't. It's a ten

612
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 4: team league, twelve team league, fifteen team league. With Jorge

613
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: Polanco or Labor Torres or Marcus Simeon as your second baseman.

614
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely you can do just fine with those.

615
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think second, I actually like it a little

616
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Speaker 2: bit more than third, which will transition to third. There's

617
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Speaker 2: just not really the late options outside of a couple

618
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Speaker 2: that I like. And we'll talk about a couple of

619
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Speaker 2: the kind of later options. And you get a couple

620
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Speaker 2: of Canadian guys on the show. We're gonna talk some

621
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Speaker 2: Blue Jays, so Adason, Barger, Kasuma Okamoto. Their ADPs are

622
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: about the same two six, two oh seven over the

623
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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks if you're looking at twelve team

624
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Speaker 2: leagues on the NFBC. I don't have a super strong

625
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: feel I like drafting both of them personally. Vlad, let's

626
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Speaker 2: start with you here. Is there one that piaus your

627
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: interest more than the other?

628
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm not the biggest Barger guy. And again,

629
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Speaker 3: I think that also comes down to platoon splits. This

630
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: is a guy with a sixty ish WRC plus against

631
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: lefties last season and an ISO split of nearly one

632
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty points. So you'll see him. He'll just

633
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: get less played appearances and he'll do a lot of

634
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: damage in the ones he does, like he absolutely crushes right,

635
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 3: he's there's no doubt, and he'll be hitting around Vladguro

636
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: Junior and things will be just fine, I think for Barger,

637
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 3: but Okamoto just seems like somebody that can really shoot

638
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: up as far as like an overall value or the

639
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 3: discrepancy between what he'll be like a top fifty hitter

640
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: versus where he's going now is like, you know, one

641
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: hundred hitter. So for me, I think he also moves

642
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: up in the lineup if you're looking at roster resource

643
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: or anywhere else you got him at like seventh. Managers

644
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: talking about hitting him higher. I think he can even

645
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: hit second if he, you know, shows the play patience

646
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: that he showed overseas, he could hit some home runs

647
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: he's hit, and I understand it's a whole different league,

648
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 3: but you know, forty plus in his in his past life,

649
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: you know, he's not more comy with the power, but

650
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: that's almost a better thing. You're just getting kind of

651
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: a more all around balanced hitter. And I think he'll

652
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: adjust quickly. I think, you know they're in Toronto. I

653
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: think he's already seems to be adjusting quickly. Like this

654
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 3: is not like a I know this is a picture,

655
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: but like you know, rookie Sasaki was like starlights, you know,

656
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: afraid to go down Hollywood Boulevard, which I don't blame

657
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 3: him for. But Kimoto, though, I think he's just just fine.

658
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what your downtown street is there, but

659
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: I think he'll be. I think he'll be better than Barger. Yeah, no,

660
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: he'll he won't. He won't be going down King Street East,

661
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: East East, but he'll be. He'll be doing just fine.

662
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: So I like both of them.

663
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 5: Obviously. I'm a Jays fan. I think everybody.

664
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: I mean, the platoon reality is absolutely true for Barcher.

665
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: He will the Jays like platooning. He is going to

666
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: miss twenty games, twenty five games this year. That or

667
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: I shouldn't say missed. He will not start twenty twenty

668
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: five games. He may come into the games later. We

669
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: saw in the playoffs the potential that's there for Barger

670
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 4: everybody who is listening to this podcast knows about bat speed,

671
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: knows about exit velocity, and Barger has elite at bat

672
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: speed and has elite exit velocity.

673
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 5: He hits the crap out of the ball.

674
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: If Barger were to hit thirty thirty home runs this year,

675
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: it would not surprise anybody. And when he is in

676
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 4: the game against ridings, he will hit. Whether it's whether

677
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 4: it's fourth or fifth, He's going to hit at the

678
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: top of the lineup. I think with Oakmodo, he we

679
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: don't know. Like we can all do the major league

680
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 4: equivalents and we can all look at the projections and

681
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: we can all trust the j's and good lineup, we

682
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: don't know until he's actually in major league games and

683
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 4: what we're going to get. So I just feel Barger

684
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 4: is a little bit safer. His defense is elite. Barger

685
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: his arm is one of the best arms in baseball,

686
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 4: both from the outfield as well as when he's playing

687
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: third base. So I would be fine with either of

688
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 4: them as a late third base option. As Joe says,

689
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: if you don't if you're punting third base, especially in

690
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: bigger leagues, you you can get creative with options.

691
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 5: But like you're you're.

692
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 4: Eating a point, you're eating you're eating poison at a

693
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 4: certain point and taking a certain risk at at a

694
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 4: certain point. There is nobody unlike second base. It's it's

695
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: a really well said Joe. It's like, look, Glaber Torget Torres,

696
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: Jorge Polonko, they're not perfect players. They've got warts, but

697
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 4: like I sort of know what I'm getting with Glabor

698
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 4: Torres at this point, with all the third basement point,

699
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: after a certain point of the draft, you're just you're part.

700
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 4: Something about them sucks. That's just reality. So I don't

701
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: think Barger or o Komodo suck. There's just a risk

702
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 4: with both of them.

703
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 5: Uh.

704
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: There's also a lots off side though. One thing I

705
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: will say is about the Jay's left handed hitters generally

706
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 4: is this is this is nothing like Vlad and his

707
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 4: friends who play fantasy football do. And it's like interesting,

708
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: not flat anymore. He's shaking his head. It's it's interesting.

709
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: It's useful to a point if you take the twenty

710
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: twenty sixth schedule and you take go to road a

711
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: wire or do it yourself, the projected rotations for every

712
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 4: single team. So already this is like that that that

713
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: is going to change tomorrow. Rob It's pictures. Forty percent

714
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 4: are going to get hurt. Of course it is. But

715
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 4: you project the rotation and just assume every team is

716
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: going to roll the same five or six guys over

717
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: and over and over again. The ja's project to have

718
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: to face the most left handed starting pitchers of any

719
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 4: team in baseball, and you can say, well, but there's

720
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 4: huge erbars one hundred percent ground.

721
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 5: I wouldn't make a.

722
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: Draft decision on this basis, but part of it is

723
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: because of the way the schedule is set up. If

724
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: you look at the Al East, there are a lot

725
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: of left handed starting pitchers, and there are a lot

726
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: of good left handed starting pitchers. That is not an

727
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 4: argument just so everybody's clear bade left handed hitters on

728
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: the Jays. It's not that at all. It's something to

729
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 4: poke put in your head, especially in shallower leagues as

730
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: a type breaker. If you're at your draft table and

731
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: it's like your fifth outfielder and it's Dalton Varshow or

732
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 4: another guy, and you're fifty to fifty, just remember I

733
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 4: said that, but I fully acknowledged a week from now

734
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: or a month from now, it could look real stupid

735
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: with three injuries and a bunch of decisions. But as

736
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: of today, the Blue Jays project to face the most

737
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 4: left tended starting pictures.

738
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Speaker 1: It is a good point.

739
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: The Al East is just packed with lefties all four

740
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: of the other teams.

741
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: Victoriols not just so so much.

742
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: But even then they got Rogers, and I think there

743
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: might be one more Povich like there are lefties all

744
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: over the place in the Al East.

745
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: So maybe that's a slight tie breaker for Okamoto. Maybe

746
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: maybe No.

747
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 4: I just I just put it out there as something

748
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: I don't I haven't seen talked about a lot in

749
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 4: a lot of It's.

750
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: A really good point. Guys. We're gonna keep it going

751
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: in a second.

752
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,719
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Speaker 1: Guys.

772
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: Let's talk shortstop, and this one has kind of changed

773
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: a little bit just because of Francisco Lindor's injury. He's

774
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: come down a little bit in price, and he's right

775
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: around the zach netto Trey Turner range, So I'll kind

776
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: of open it up to all three of them there, Vlad,

777
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: do you have a strong preference. Are you taking the

778
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: Lindor discount? Are you bought in on Neto after what

779
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: we saw in a shortened year last year, or maybe

780
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: just take the guy who's been doing it for almost

781
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: a decade now and Trey Turner.

782
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question. Obviously, everything's changed with the

783
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: Lindor thing, as you mentioned, and now he's going in

784
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: this range. But as we start to get good or

785
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: better news or so, we hope that it's not that

786
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: serious with the HAMMT that he's going to move up

787
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 3: into the early twenties, especially because shopping in that second

788
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: round and fifteen teamers is really tough. It's something that

789
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: I've noticed a lot of other play high stakes players

790
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 3: have as well. It's just really tough to click on

791
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: some of the players there. And Lindor is just the

792
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 3: epitome of safety, right and a little bit of that

793
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 3: safety has been taken off taken off, But this is

794
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: a guy that essentially produces first round value just about

795
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: every single season. He's in a loaded lineup, lots of

796
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: good juju on that team, which is the first time

797
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: I can say that about the Mets and god knows

798
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: how long, and that's my boy, Luis Robert Junior included.

799
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: He's going to be, you know, enveloped into all of

800
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: that good juju. It starts with Freddy Peralta. By the way,

801
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: really good dude. Yeah, Lindor's I like all these guys

802
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: like you. When I'm sitting there on the clock, it's

803
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: going to be a tough position to be in. I

804
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: do like Neto. I have my bold Predictions article on

805
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: Fangrafts coming out where I've got, you know, Neto in

806
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: the thirty thirty club, a newest member of the thirty

807
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: thirty club. He was twenty six twenty six last year

808
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: in limited time. I think, you know, having like a

809
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: healthy mic Trout there, I mean, which is kind of

810
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: an oxymoron in itself, but you get some of that,

811
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 3: you know, the good players behind him, and it's very possible.

812
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 3: I think if Netto stays healthy, I think he'll get there.

813
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: I feel like he would be an absolute superstar if

814
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: he was on the Yankees or some other team, he

815
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 3: would be you know, you know, massively in the spotlight.

816
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: So I don't have like a strong, strong lean here

817
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: because I do like I do like both guys, And

818
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: how can you not like Drey Turner Usually.

819
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 5: Well that makes a lot of good points.

820
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 4: The thing is if you're if if you see your

821
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: fantasy baseball team like a stock portfolio, there are times

822
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: when you're betting on the tech startup that new, the

823
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: hot Ai company. There are times that you want a

824
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: little bitcoin, and there are times you want a government

825
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: treasury bond. And that is what Francisco Lindor is like

826
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 4: the lad says Netto could join his hut. You know,

827
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: his bold prediction for Fangrass is he could join the

828
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: thirty thirty club.

829
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 5: The thing with Lindor is like that.

830
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: He then he'd become Francisco Lindor, because that's all Francisco

831
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: Lindor does every year the last three years thirty one,

832
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 4: thirty three, thirty one home runs, thirty one, twenty nine,

833
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: thirty one stolen bases, batting average in this in twenty

834
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: twenty six baseball to sixty ish batting average, which is

835
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 4: which is good. It's not elite, but it's good batting average.

836
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 4: And Vlad said something I think it was Matt Olsen

837
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: that he really likes with players is Francisco Lindor. It

838
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: feels like he has gotten hurt a lot, like Little Nixon scratches.

839
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: But it's played one hundred and sixty games or more

840
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 4: for three of the last four years, and the fourth

841
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 4: year was one hundred and fifty two, which is basically

842
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 4: one hundred and sixty games.

843
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: He shows up.

844
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 4: If he didn't have the injury right now, this would

845
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 4: be a no brainer. Like Francisco Lindor is in so

846
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 4: many ways when you do any kind of risk adjusted analysis,

847
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 4: is like wildly underrated. He should be a first round pick.

848
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: There can only be fifteen first round pick, so he

849
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: was a glad who's a guy who slides into the

850
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 4: second round. But if he is still going, and I'll

851
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: make a case why he may still be going in

852
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 4: the NFBC pick twenty five twenty six, I think he's

853
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: an easy smash. Even if you think because of the

854
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: handmade injury that his power is a little bit down.

855
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 4: If you take those power numbers and drop five home

856
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 4: runs off and he suddenly only is a twenty five

857
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: p thirty guy, he's still a great value there.

858
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 5: The reason why I think he may stay.

859
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: Where he is is starting pitchers is I think that

860
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 4: you're going to see a lot of the people unless

861
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: Turk Scoobol starts going at the four kind of pick.

862
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 4: Everybody in those first four or five six picks have

863
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: gone hitter in the first rounds, and I think that

864
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 4: there is going to be a race of I don't

865
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 4: want to be the guy who misses out on Cris

866
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: Sanchez because he ain't coming back. Well, no kidding, he's

867
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 4: not coming back. He may go be going at the

868
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 4: one two turn. By the time you guys get to

869
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: be okay, then I want Yamamoto. Yeah no, no, you

870
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: ain't getting yamamotoho he's already gone, and by definite and

871
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 4: on and on and on, and we see it almost

872
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 4: every single year, especially with injuries. And we saw an

873
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: hour before we started recording there's reports about Hunter Green

874
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: having an MRI and being out. Every one of those

875
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 4: guys who go down pushes somebody else up and pushes

876
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: the crowd up. So I think the way that you

877
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 4: get Francisco Lindor still in twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight,

878
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 4: even if he's back in terms of injury, even if

879
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: he has three home runs in spring training, in the

880
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: remaining games, is that starting pitchers start leapfrogging him and

881
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: he is one of those guys. Man, I don't really

882
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 4: want Lindor anymore. And suddenly the guy who took Trek

883
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: Scouble fourth overall is starting with Francisco Lindora, which is

884
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 4: a pretty sweet gift if you ask me to that team.

885
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 4: So I'm making all this up, but I'm fine with

886
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: all of them. In some ways, Trey Turner has become

887
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 4: the new most disrespected guy. Trey Turner is just so

888
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: consistent in what he does. He may not love that

889
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 4: profile of what he does, but the batting average is

890
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 4: a nice cushion and Trey Turner. Trey Turner starts sliding

891
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 4: to the third round because of what I said, like that,

892
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 4: that's a fantastic buy for somebody.

893
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Trey Turner is a Hall of Famer.

894
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: I think we're well on that road that he's gonna

895
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 2: end up in Cooperstown. You guys think that's exaggerating a

896
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: little bit.

897
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: Maybe makes sense, Jack.

898
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 4: Say, if he decides he wants to keep playing long enough,

899
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: like he's gonna have some career numbers. I haven't looked

900
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 4: at how many career hits does he have, Like he

901
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 4: must have a plausible path, if not three thousand, to

902
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: just run up some pretty crazy numbers there.

903
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 5: So we'll see.

904
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: Let's we got a couple more that we're gonna go over.

905
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna do one more, We're gonna do one in

906
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: the outfield. We'll do one starting pitcher, and then we'll

907
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: do one relief pitcher. So in the outfield, I think

908
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: the most interesting one here is probably Brent Rooker and

909
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: Roman Anthony, who are both being drafted right around that.

910
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Roman Anthony's getting a little bit more expensive.

911
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: I saw him go in the third round of a

912
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: draft the other day. But if you're looking at the

913
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks of twelve team ADP on the NFBC,

914
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: it's like pick forty five to fifty type arrange. Brent Rooker,

915
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: who's done it for a couple of years now, Roman Anthony,

916
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: who looks like he could be the next big thing.

917
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 2: He hit a massive home run for Team USA yesterday.

918
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: Vlad do you have a strong feel here? Are you

919
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: kind of happy to get either one?

920
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: That's a good point that last thing he said there.

921
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: I would be happy with either one. We're talking about,

922
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: you know, so first of all, the tech startup versus

923
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 3: you know, or you know versus the government, you know,

924
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: sanction ons. Yeah, right, So Rooker, is that like you

925
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: just know that what you're getting for the price in

926
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: the ballpark factor is incredible as long as they're in Sacramento.

927
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 3: You've got like one hundred and five plus degree heat

928
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: in the summer, the balls flying out there, the offense

929
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: is fantastic, and in some respects, I almost feel like

930
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 3: Rooker was a little almost like underrated because of Nick

931
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: Kurtz in the season that he had and Tyler Soderstorm

932
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: coming up, Jacob Wilson being an All Star. So Brent

933
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 3: Rooker is is a little underappreciated, and you should be

934
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: happy if you get Brent Rooker in your trade. But

935
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: Roman Anthony, he's Facebook, he's Twitter.

936
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 5: This guy, you're buying the bitcoin?

937
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 3: Fat you buy. I have my own, my own bitcoin,

938
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: and I have it.

939
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 5: But the last couple of days been better.

940
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: Anyways, go on, bitcoin goes down. That's the difference. He's

941
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: not bitcoin because Roman Anthony will only go Romano. This

942
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: guy is the truth. This has been my guy. I

943
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: don't say my guy, I actually hate because because you know,

944
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: because then we're all sharing guys. Everybody loves Roman Anthony.

945
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: The one thing I was afraid of was that he

946
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: was going to get a spot on the WBC. He was,

947
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 3: you know, going to be forefront center, you know, national attention,

948
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: and then the price just starts to rise. You guys know,

949
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: I write a this Year's Yelich article every year. You

950
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 3: know Suzuki last year, Jazz the year before. Roman Anthony

951
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: would technically be the guy. But he's going to go

952
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: into a draft price range where he doesn't even kind

953
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: of fit the criteria for this article. But you know,

954
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 3: this is a guy that I honestly think it stays healthy.

955
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: He's going to be a future Hall of Famer. I

956
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: think he's going to be an immediate impact on this team.

957
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: We already saw it last year. Hits bombs could steal

958
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: some bases. He's going to score a hundred plus runs.

959
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: So I love him. You know, guys, you know, you

960
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 3: guys know me. I love to take to take risks

961
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: with the young guys and especially the really good ones.

962
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: So you know, push comes to shove, I would go

963
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 3: if I'm feeling frisky, risky that day, I'm taking Roman

964
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 3: Anthony over Rob.

965
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 2: You got any worry about the ground balls at all?

966
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: About the launch angle ground balls? Does that worry about

967
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: the home run total? Potentially that's the only thing for me.

968
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: That's pretty much the only thing that worries me with him.

969
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 5: The ground balls.

970
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 3: Oh you're asking me either one of you.

971
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 5: No, he hyped Christian Yelich.

972
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 4: At a time Christian Yelich was hitting ninety two percent

973
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: ground balls.

974
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 5: Lad can get over the ground ball, right, Yeah, that's

975
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 5: a good point. Sorry, Black, you go no, no.

976
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: No, that's I mean, I mean no. The end of

977
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: the day, the profile for me is a like a

978
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 3: borderline first round guy. So so then he hits for

979
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: higher average and he still scores all those runs hitting

980
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: a top of the lineup with story controllers the rest

981
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 3: of the guys behind him.

982
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: So let me ask you this question, vladd because I

983
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 4: have not gotten Roman Anthony in any drafts that I've

984
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: done this year. And it's not that I think that

985
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 4: Roman Anthony is crap. Obviously, Roman Anthony was the number

986
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 4: one prospect in baseball year ago. At this time, he

987
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 4: was Connor Griffin before Connor Griffin was Connor Griffin. Let's

988
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 4: give me your eightieth percentile outcome, so like plausible but

989
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: a really good twenty twenty sixth season, what is your

990
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 4: line for like the eightieth percentile?

991
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 5: Roman Anthony this year to.

992
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: Seventy two average with ninety four runs, twenty three home runs,

993
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 3: eighty one are eighty one RBI and fourteen steals.

994
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 5: Okay, that's really good season. Like for is what is

995
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 5: he sixteen years old, now seventeen years old, now.

996
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 4: Has only seventeen he's got he's got to come to

997
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 4: Quebec if he wants to buy a beer. I think

998
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 4: it's still Roman Anthony. No, like, that's a really good season.

999
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: I thought you were going to do something and I

1000
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: love you've led, but like something more Lattie, which is like,

1001
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: I think he's thirty six home runs, twenty eight stolen

1002
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 4: bases and if he hits a point below three twenty one,

1003
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: I'll be shocked. And you said eighty at all, you

1004
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 4: said eightio ninety nine. It's not ninety ninth percent a.

1005
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 4: I asked the question very specific. It's not fiftieth percentile.

1006
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 4: So it's not necessarily what your VDP projections would show.

1007
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 4: It's a good season, but not the best possible scenario.

1008
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: So I'll tell you the things that have not allowed

1009
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 4: me to draft him so far. So the first thing

1010
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 4: is he had last year, in his basically half a season,

1011
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty stolen base opportunities. That is a

1012
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 4: Baseball Reference statistic, which means you are on first base

1013
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: or second base with the following base open, how many

1014
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 4: chances did you have to steal one hundred and fifty

1015
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: which is a lot, which is not surprising. It is

1016
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: a great on base percentage, and last year at a

1017
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 4: really good batting average, he only attempted five stolen bases.

1018
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: Now with most And this is my thing with that statistic.

1019
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: Usually I use it to say I don't think guy

1020
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 4: X is going to run as much because this regresses

1021
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 4: down and he was just running too much. And he's

1022
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 4: not Ricky Henderson, so I think that Guy X is

1023
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: going to run less. And if you're aggress it down

1024
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 4: like suddenly he's an eighteen stolen based guy instead of

1025
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 4: a twenty eight swolen based guy. The same should apply

1026
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 4: with Roman Anthony. Like he is no Alejandro Kirk. He's

1027
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 4: a fast baseball player, and he's young, so you would

1028
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 4: expect if he gets three hundred stolen base opportunities, double

1029
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: it or some or someplus or minus. And he's hitting leadoff,

1030
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 4: which means at least once per game if he gets

1031
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 4: on base, there is by definition nobody else on base.

1032
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 5: He should try more.

1033
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: I don't understand why Roman Anthony didn't try more stolen

1034
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 4: bases last year, like why was he just not running?

1035
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 5: And I don't buy that.

1036
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: It's well, but he was brand new, so he's focused

1037
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 4: on something else, like he's a baseball player this part

1038
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 4: of his game, Like why wasn't he running and why

1039
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 4: is he suddenly going to start running more? Now, when

1040
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: you say twelve fourteen, fifteen stolen bases over the course

1041
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 4: of a six month season, you're not saying he's gonna

1042
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: start running crazy amounts. So really, like you could look

1043
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 4: your answer to me, Vlad could be well, actually, I

1044
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: don't think he's going to start running that much. He's

1045
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 4: going to pick his spots and he's getting on bass

1046
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 4: so often that he's just like or Raphael is on

1047
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 4: batting ninth ahead of him and they do a double

1048
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: steal twice this year, and suddenly he's at twelve stolen bases.

1049
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 5: But that struck me as a weird thing.

1050
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 4: And then the second thing is the babbit is like

1051
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 4: he had a really high babbit last year, babbit over

1052
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 4: four hundred, which is almost certainly unsustainable. But again you're

1053
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 4: not claiming that you think he's going to hit three

1054
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 4: twenty right now.

1055
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: Now he hits the ball very hard.

1056
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 4: So there's when you're when you hit the ball very

1057
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 4: hard and you have speed, you can have an elevated babbit.

1058
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 4: But as Joe said, he hits it on the ground

1059
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 4: a lot. So I'm curious when you look at the

1060
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: public projections at fangrafts, they're basically unanimous at a two

1061
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 4: sixty two sixty five batting average. So you say eightieth

1062
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 4: percentile to seventy to seventy five, whatever you said, Vlad,

1063
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 4: you're basically saying a little bit better. But those are

1064
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 4: the reasons why I've been hesitant because he has the

1065
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 4: profile to be a five category stud, but I worry

1066
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 4: if he's not running and like he's the it's going

1067
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 4: to hit the ball line drives are in the air

1068
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 4: a little bit more. But doesn't make him a bad guy,

1069
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: Like he doesn't need a lot to go different from

1070
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 4: last year to suddenly be a third round value and

1071
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 4: there's by for sure upside from there.

1072
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 5: Sorry, Joe, that's a lot.

1073
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: No, that's good.

1074
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Speaker 2: That's what the people are here for is to hear

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Speaker 2: you guys get back and forth on it. Anthony is

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Speaker 2: a very polarizing player, like the fifteen percent barrel a

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Speaker 2: sixty percent hard hit rate as a rookie in your

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Speaker 2: first cup of coffee is outrageous. Just lift the damn ball. Please,

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Speaker 2: just lift the damn ball.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Two more, We're gonna do a little rapid fire here

1104
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: for the pitchers. This one is kind of a it

1105
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 2: feels polarizing to me a little bit. And again, what

1106
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: you guys have talked about the established name versus the

1107
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: young name Zach Wheeler and Emicchihan has been a question

1108
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: that I've seen a few times.

1109
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: I've been asked a few times.

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00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: And even in draft rooms, You're sitting there thinking you

1111
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: got the next big thing in Sheian and you have

1112
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: a guy in Wheeler who's been so reliable but coming

1113
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: off of a pretty dangerous type of injury here, especially

1114
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: at his age. Vlad, I know you liked both of them,

1115
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: but if you had to just take one, would you

1116
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: go with your Dodger or would you maybe go with

1117
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: the older Zach Wheeler.

1118
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 3: Well, it is it's never a good idea to draft

1119
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: fantasy players because you like them for your team. Although

1120
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: there are obviously exceptions. If you're a Dodgers fan versus

1121
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 3: a Nationals fan, you can make an exception. That said,

1122
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 3: I love em and she Han very much. I think

1123
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 3: Imagian is on the verge of stardom, and I think

1124
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: he has an outside chance of even being their best starter,

1125
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: as crazy as it might sound, In fact, he was.

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00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: It's out of outside of Yamamoto, he was their next

1127
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 3: best starter last season. You know, high walk, ray, massive,

1128
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: swinging strike, great all through the miners and the majors

1129
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: last year. Everything is going to be limited on the innings,

1130
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 3: but I do like to take risks. And if and

1131
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: if Zach Wheeler's timetable keeps getting pushed up and up

1132
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 3: and he really might return in April, how can I

1133
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 3: not take Wheeler? How can I not get a guy

1134
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 3: who potentially could be, you know, the top three pitcher

1135
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 3: like he has been over the last half decade plus

1136
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: and not take him there at you know, one hundred

1137
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 3: hundred and ten ADP. In fact, that's what I've been

1138
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: doing in drafts lately, and usually that's when she And

1139
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: is still on the board.

1140
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 4: So here's what I'd say, very quickly, Emmitchen is going

1141
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 4: to be the guy in the next month who has

1142
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 4: the most helium of any pitcher, unless Zach Wheeler has

1143
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: announced that he's going to open the season in the

1144
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 4: rotation and or will miss one turn and he'll be

1145
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 4: pitching by like literally the second time around. I think

1146
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 4: Emmettchian started this winter in a clump with Trey Savage

1147
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 4: and with all Bubbah and with all of the rookie

1148
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 4: or McLain, all the rookie slash second year pitchers, and

1149
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 4: then people started digging in and he ain't with those

1150
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: guys anymore. So last year it was Christopher Sanchez who

1151
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: every single day just kept going up and up and up.

1152
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 4: If you are going into an NFBC draft over the

1153
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 4: next month, what I would say is do not look

1154
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 4: at his ADP since November because you will not get him.

1155
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 4: And that may be okay, but if you want him,

1156
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 4: I would look at what is the latest he has

1157
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 4: gone or the earliest he has gone in the last

1158
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 4: three days, and if you want him, that's where you're

1159
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 4: going to take him. I think he is a fifth

1160
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 4: sixth round pick by the time people get to Las Vegas,

1161
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 4: and it's nowhere near there.

1162
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 5: If I did bold predictions.

1163
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: I would do exactly what Vlad said, which is he

1164
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: out earns Yamamoto and it's.

1165
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 5: Not particularly close.

1166
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: Wheeler is more difficult to value because of all the

1167
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 4: reasons Vlad said. But Shean's a stud. If I could

1168
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 4: leave a draft with she and is my SP three,

1169
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 4: I'd be thrilled. And it's going to be hard if

1170
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 4: I'm right where his adp lands, because you want to

1171
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 4: close her probably by then, and taking two starters before

1172
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 4: the sixth rounds plus a closer plush she in around

1173
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 4: there is tough. But I think Shean's going to have

1174
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 4: everybody likes Shean. There's nobody sorry, go ahead.

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00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, yeah. So do you think the

1176
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: fact that he's going to be in a six man

1177
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 3: rotation is.

1178
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 4: Going to curb some of that helium a little bit?

1179
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 4: It's a great question, Flad's. It was one of the

1180
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 4: arguments early against Yamamoto. Is I think that last year

1181
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 4: and you're a Dodgers fan, I'm not a Dodgers fan.

1182
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 4: Last year people are like, we have but the Dodgers

1183
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 4: let Yamamoto go long last year? Why would they not

1184
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: do that this year? I think last year the Dodgers

1185
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 4: had no choice at big stretches of the season. Why

1186
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 4: because Kershaw wasn't ready to pitch yet, Otani wasn't ready

1187
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 4: to pitch yet, glass Now wasn't healthy, Snell wasn't healthy,

1188
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: and there were stretches of the season where it's like,

1189
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 4: we don't have the traditional Dodgers luxury to just push

1190
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: Yamamoto to the phantom ayel for two weeks, or we're

1191
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 4: skipping him this time, or we're giving him two extra

1192
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 4: days rest. I Dodgers are going to be awesome. I

1193
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: think that the Dodgers are going to have less of

1194
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: a six man rotation than people think, because I think

1195
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 4: glass Now is going to be hurt.

1196
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 5: I think Snell is all already hurt.

1197
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 4: I think they're going to want to save more bullets

1198
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: in Yamamoto's arsenal for October than they did last year.

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00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: Not that he wasn't awesome told the last freaking unfortunate

1200
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 4: time he appeared in Game seven of the World Series.

1201
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 4: But I think that if things are going well and

1202
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 4: they're further ahead in the NL West, they also there

1203
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 4: were times last year it's stupid to look back when

1204
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 4: the Dodgers we actually need to start winning games, guys,

1205
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: because there are other teams that are like past us

1206
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 4: and close to us, I think they're gonna I think

1207
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 4: they want to wrest those guys. I think the one

1208
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 4: guy who like is just going to stay healthy and

1209
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 4: just going to keep going is Shem.

1210
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 5: And also it's like we live in a world. As

1211
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 5: you know, one hundred.

1212
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 4: And fifty innings of Shean is more than enough to

1213
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: be a top ten starting pitcher, right like one hundred

1214
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 4: and fifty. And that's also an argument for Zack Wheeler,

1215
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 4: Zach Wheeler, if they are like guys, guys, guys, we've

1216
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 4: gotten a little bit ahead of ourselves. Zach Wheeler will

1217
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 4: will debut May first. That's not a terrible thing, Like

1218
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: you'll you'll the easiest time of the year in any

1219
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 4: fantasy league to manage an injury at the beginning of

1220
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 4: the year. If you draft Zach Wheeler, you know you

1221
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 4: need a tenth pitcher. You know you need an eighth

1222
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 4: starting pitcher to backfill for Zach Wheeler, So you draft accordingly.

1223
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 4: And it's like Zach Wheeler, if he's good and he's

1224
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 4: healthy the rest of the season, can easily be a

1225
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 4: top ten starting pitcher. At one hundred and fifty innings.

1226
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 4: How do I know, because he just did a last

1227
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 4: yair like that's not hard.

1228
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: On that level you want to talk about. I don't

1229
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 3: even call this bowl. This is probably something that's just

1230
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: from our experience. We know what's going to happen. River

1231
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 3: Ryan will be like a top two hundred pick by

1232
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 3: the time we get to Vegas. If it looks like

1233
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 3: he's going to get a spawn in their rotation, yes.

1234
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 4: Which which seems which seemed, which seems sort of like

1235
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 4: like like with Sazaki news and with the Snell is

1236
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 4: definitely not like I think that's I think, I don't

1237
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 4: think I think I think that's yes. I wish I

1238
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 4: had taken him in DC's all Winter for a wing

1239
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 4: name really cheap.

1240
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: I got one share and I'm going to hang onto

1241
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: that one share. We got one last debate and we'll

1242
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: we'll go quickly here. But it's interesting because one of

1243
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 2: them was a closer who was the best closer in

1244
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: baseball last year, and the other guy was sent down

1245
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: by the Pirates in April, and yet they're being drafted

1246
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: this dame and that's David Bednar and a rold As

1247
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: Chapman both right around pick sixty five, Blad, we'll start

1248
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 2: with you here.

1249
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: Do you have a strong feel I don't really love.

1250
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 2: Taking either, but the way the closers get pushed up

1251
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: the board, I think that a lot of people feel

1252
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: desperation come in when they're all gone, and then you're

1253
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: sitting there with just Bednar and Chapman.

1254
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: So if you're going to take one of them here,

1255
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: who would it be?

1256
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 3: I will preface this by saying, if you do not

1257
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: feel very strongly about either Chapman or Bednar, but you

1258
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,959
Speaker 3: do like a Jeff Hoffman or Ryan Walker, whoever it is, later,

1259
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 3: then just wait because this is a part of the

1260
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: draft in you know, in even deeper twelve teamers, these

1261
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 3: guys are going in the seventies and eighties, and fifteen

1262
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 3: teamers are going in the sixties. Like you, you're giving up.

1263
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 3: There's a big opportunity cost on what you're giving up

1264
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: as far as good hitters here or even other good

1265
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 3: starting pitchers, So don't do it. I do prefer Bednar.

1266
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: I think this is a guy that was an elite

1267
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: reliever for two plus seasons with the Pirates. He managed

1268
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: an era like under two five. He had a thirty

1269
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 3: percent strikeout rate, seven and a half percent walk rate,

1270
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 3: which always nice you like to see with with your closers.

1271
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: It feels to me like he's kind of like born

1272
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 3: to be a pitch. Like I remember when he was

1273
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 3: a pirate was saying like if he ever made it

1274
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 3: the meat Yankees, it would just be the perfect place

1275
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 3: for somebody like that to shine. And I think he's

1276
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 3: really going to. With Chapman, I don't have any massive

1277
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 3: issues with him. He was obviously the top closer in

1278
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: baseball last year. He held opposing batters to a one

1279
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 3: thirty one average. The whip was insane, it was like

1280
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 3: point seven, and even a career low walk rate of

1281
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: six point six. I don't have a strong you know,

1282
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 3: any stats or anything to back it up, but I

1283
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 3: just don't feel great about a follow up. You know,

1284
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 3: call it instinct whatever it is, and can also be

1285
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: flat out wrong. It could end up just being you know, gout,

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Speaker 3: you know, indigestion. But I don't trust or all this

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Speaker 3: Chapmen around where he goes, or at least versus some

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Speaker 3: of the other ones.

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Speaker 5: I'll give a very quick answer.

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Speaker 4: There are four closers that are four sometimes five closers

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Speaker 4: that are going in the top one fifty in the

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Speaker 4: NFBC that I am fading. Neither of them are Hater

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Speaker 4: or are sorry are Bednar or Chapman. One of them

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Speaker 4: is hater. Both of the Milwaukee closers Esteves, and the

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Speaker 4: fifth ish is ken Lee Jansen. If Kenlee drops enough,

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Speaker 4: then I'll take Jansen. Those are the five that I

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Speaker 4: am fading, as in, they have to fall a lot

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Speaker 4: for me to take them as my closer. Hater may

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Speaker 4: like hater is one piece of news away from being undraftable.

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Speaker 4: Everything else for closers this year is the room is

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Speaker 4: going to determine for me who I take, which doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean I'm passive. You can't be passive and say, oh,

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Speaker 4: I'll wait till the next one, because all three of

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Speaker 4: those next ones are gone and then you start chasing

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Speaker 4: your tail and you're in real trouble. So you need

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Speaker 4: to be aggressive. But the room will decide it. And

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Speaker 4: I don't have strong, strong feelings beyond those ones that

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Speaker 4: just for me, and I fully acknowledge I could be

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Speaker 4: very wrong, but they're the ones that I'm not taking

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Speaker 4: anywhere close to ADP. So on this debate, it's like

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Speaker 4: the I think I'd rather bet Gnar pretty clearly than Chapman.

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Speaker 4: But I'm just fine if I leave a draft with

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Speaker 4: Chapman as one of my two closers.

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Speaker 3: And if you keep playing that game that Rob's talking

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Speaker 3: about where I just keep waiting, keep waiting. All of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, you're looking at your roster. You've got Victor

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Speaker 3: Vodnik and Clayton Beeter, and you might as well go

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Speaker 3: draft another team.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, fat.

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Speaker 2: I can't thank you guys enough for taking the time.

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Speaker 2: I know that the viewers are gonna love this one,

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Speaker 2: especially the high stage viewers. But I hope even if

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Speaker 2: you're just playing in a ten team league with your buddies,

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Speaker 2: you got some good knowledge here and helping you make

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Speaker 2: those decisions. Guys could quickly just let everybody know where

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Speaker 2: they can where they can.

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Speaker 1: Keep up with your work. Robins over with.

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Speaker 4: You just Launchangle available anywhere you get podcasts, Blood.

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Speaker 3: FTN Fantasy, do a little work on fangrafts as well.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, come come check out our work and man, Robs,

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Speaker 3: this is like a blast from the past. Honestly, I

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Speaker 3: don't think there's anyone that's more pleasure young.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe it took Young Joe to bring us

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Speaker 4: back together on a podcast five for here we are thank.

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Speaker 2: Young je I'm trying to perform a service for the

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Speaker 2: fantasy community here. Truly, these guys are two of the

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Speaker 2: absolute best fantasy baseball players in the world. Make sure

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Speaker 2: you are following them at Roto Gut at Rob Silver.

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Speaker 2: We will be back again for tons of more content

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Speaker 2: here over the next couple weeks Fantasy Fest. Tons of

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Speaker 2: great guests coming up on the channel, so make sure

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Speaker 2: you guys are following and subscribing. For Rob Silver and

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Speaker 2: Vlad Sedler, I'm Joel Rico. We'll talk to you next

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