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Speaker 1: Hour two and a Monday. Great to have you in,

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck. The combine starts Thursday. Chris Bruce Sard. We

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Speaker 1: just had Tony Grenada on as a team. USA outlast Canada.

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Speaker 2: Men's and women's.

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Speaker 1: Just tremendous sports achievement.

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Speaker 2: And I've said this before about the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: I used to watch it a lot when I was

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Speaker 1: younger because it was the only three week period that

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Speaker 1: sports was on in my house right in the seventies

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Speaker 1: didn't have as much sports on TV, so it didn't

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Speaker 1: feel quite as special. But let me tell you that,

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Speaker 1: like bars were open. I saw in New York City,

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Speaker 1: which is going through some brutal weather. Over the next

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Speaker 1: the city. It was We had kind of a European

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Speaker 1: feel over the week on Sunday the weekend, and it

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Speaker 1: was it was just remarkable. So here we go to Monday,

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Speaker 1: where Colin was right and where Colin was wrong. Where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right, Well, no Jason Tatum this year, and

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Speaker 1: shocker not really. The Celtics have the second best record

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Speaker 1: in the East and are actually better defensively. It's nothing

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Speaker 1: against Jason Tatum because they're not quite as good offensively,

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Speaker 1: but the Celtics are about coaching collaborative intensity. Other guys

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Speaker 1: this team that are given an opportunity in more minutes

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Speaker 1: now And the reality is they're eight and two in

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Speaker 1: their last ten. Once again, they're very good on the

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Speaker 1: road and as exceptional as Jason Tatum is, Jalen Brown

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Speaker 1: on many nights felt like the better player and he's

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Speaker 1: having an MVP.

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Speaker 2: Season where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I thought the Dallas Mavericks could contend and get to

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals, but Kyrie Irving is now announced

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Speaker 1: he will not play this year. They had injuries, eighty

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Speaker 1: was out of shape, the Luca trade's been a disaster,

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Speaker 1: and now it's just going to be a lot of

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Speaker 1: Cooper flag highlights, which I'm good with. But I thought

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Speaker 1: the very beginning the injuries piled up. Kyrie's done and

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Speaker 1: so is the Mavericks season. Where Colin was right, Well,

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Speaker 1: the Lakers, they've got a new sheriff in town. Lon Rosen,

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Speaker 1: former Laker executive, then a Dodger heavyweight executive, has now

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Speaker 1: replaced a member of the Laker front office. So, as

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Speaker 1: we addicted, the Lakers needed new eyes, ears, and voices

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Speaker 1: back to the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: The last three years, I've been convinced Yannis would leave Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: He's grumbled, they got a title, the injuries are piling up,

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Speaker 1: the roster's too old and thin, and even in the

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Speaker 1: a Milwaukee Buck. What's interesting now is what is he

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Speaker 1: all your draft picks and multiple starters, but he's not

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Speaker 1: an outside perimeter player. He has multiple injuries. He needs

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Speaker 1: Manny Machado, now Dodger rivals, came out and said what

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Speaker 1: I've been preaching on this show. The Dodgers' dominance is

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Speaker 1: The reality is Machado and Bryce Harper came out and

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Speaker 1: Fans want to watch star studded rosters. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: in the last twelve years, major League Baseball has nine

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was wrong, well, Adam Silver is going aggressively

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right, I've said.

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Speaker 1: For years, if the Cowboys don't have a legit general manager,

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Speaker 1: is this really the best move for Dallas. Where Colin

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Speaker 1: was right, I said when Mick Cronin threw out during

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Speaker 1: six hours of this, Mick Cronin out of Mayacopa sounded

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Speaker 3: So, I'm already apologized to Steve. Okay, I thought that

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Speaker 1: you know, listen, I remember the first time I heard

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Speaker 1: about Sam Darnold. I went to a USC practice and

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Speaker 1: and I'm sitting talking to Sark and I said, what

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Speaker 2: Make of that five star guy?

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Speaker 1: And he says, he says, see that kid over there,

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Speaker 1: his name is Sam Darnald, and he's a couple of

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Speaker 1: to be great. And of course Darnald explodes at US seed.

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Speaker 2: That was going to happen. Sam did, and he is

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Speaker 2: now joining us. Like, let's go back to us.

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Speaker 1: See, I remember your freshman year and Sark probably didn't

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Speaker 1: tell you this. I remember him telling me this. He said,

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Speaker 1: that kid is like a linebacker that plays quarterback. He's tough,

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Speaker 1: he's he doesn't care, he doesn't he's not caught up

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Speaker 1: in all the wrong stuff. What do you rem Let's

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Speaker 1: go to the beginning of your journey at USC. You

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Speaker 1: remember that first, you know, that indoctrination into college football

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Speaker 6: But I knew that we also had Cody Kessler who

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Speaker 1: I remember when you were struggling with the Jets, and

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Speaker 1: I talked to a GM who also believed in you,

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Speaker 1: and he said, listen, he's twenty years old. The Jets

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Speaker 1: don't have a great infrastructure, Like this is a this

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Speaker 1: is hard, and you know, I remember this GM saying,

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Speaker 1: a team, get support. It's like, but even Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: you know, you, media guys, he goes you just think

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Speaker 1: it's easy. It's really hard when you're young and it's

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Speaker 1: New York State. Let's go back to the early New

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Speaker 1: York days. You're having fun, it's new You're a West

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Speaker 1: Coast kid, You're three thousand and thirty five hundred miles

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can play on Sundays.

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Speaker 2: I'm good on Saturdays. Can I be a Sunday guy?

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Speaker 6: said that. There wasn't any doubt in my mind. You know,

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Speaker 6: there there was a little bit of doubt, you know,

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Speaker 6: throughout those tough times in New York. But you know,

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Speaker 6: I had great teammates, I had great coaches that believed

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Speaker 6: to me in New York. And you know that that's

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Speaker 6: what really kept me up right there. And again I

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Speaker 7: Home also were able to keep me up right.

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Speaker 6: And and even you know, there were some times where

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Speaker 7: Those times in New York. And you know, I I I.

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Speaker 1: I've said this before on the air. If you go

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Speaker 2: What did that matter to you?

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Speaker 7: And you know, it was just that that system.

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Speaker 1: So then you go, it's well chronicled. Then you go

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Speaker 2: And then you go to Seattle.

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Speaker 1: And we'll get to Seattle in a second, But when

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Speaker 2: Tinge of like what you don't believe in me?

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Speaker 1: I won fourteen games, Like I would have understood if

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Speaker 2: How did that land for you?

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Speaker 6: haven't seen it all, but I've seen a lot in

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Speaker 7: But at the same time.

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Speaker 6: I, you know, I understand you know, their thought process

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Speaker 2: So let's go to Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Now, next seven minutes, let's talk Seattle first practicer two

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Speaker 1: with JSN. Nobody knew he was at number one. He's talented,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was so OTAs he was always special running

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Speaker 6: And I remember we out to LA and did some

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Speaker 1: People said, well, Sam Donald didn't do a ton in

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Speaker 6: It's it's just one of those things that you know,

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Speaker 1: I remember a game when you were at USC you

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Speaker 7: You know, you had that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they kind of they kind of feel forgotten, They

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Speaker 1: for you. I've been lucky enough to follow all this

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Speaker 2: You didn't have to, and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 1: So last night wildly entertaining game one of the more

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Speaker 1: entertaining Laker games of the year. Magic in La average

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Speaker 1: Orlando team, Powell beIN Caro's kind of had an off year,

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Speaker 1: had his second best game of the season, shock her

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Speaker 1: against the Lakers, but Austin Reeves played well Lebron played

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Speaker 1: really well, especially early, had a rundown block in that game.

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick dialed up a great final game winning shot.

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Speaker 1: How did they lose to an average Orlando team? Because

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Speaker 1: Luca didn't shoot well last night? Luca gagged on the

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Speaker 1: final play and anybody for Orlando who was lucky enough

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Speaker 1: to have Luca guard them shot nearly sixty percent. Is

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Speaker 1: the bloom off the rose. No, it's what we said

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Speaker 1: yesterday and you saw it last night. The final play

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Speaker 1: is just an illustration of a lingering problem. Lebron and

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Speaker 1: Luca don't play that well together. They both need the ball.

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Speaker 1: Neither is great off ball. They're both exceptional passers, but

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Speaker 1: you have to have the ball to do that. And

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Speaker 1: then when you add Austin Reeves, he needs the ball

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Speaker 1: to be effective, and so does Ruey Hatch. Lura needs

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Speaker 1: the ball to be effective. It's a repetitive roster. We've

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Speaker 1: told you many times the Lakers need to diversify their portfolio.

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Speaker 1: How about some bonds, buy some land, little heavy in

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Speaker 1: tech stocks, right, Like, everybody does the same thing. And

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Speaker 1: Orlando's not a very good team. They've been a disappointment.

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Speaker 1: Polo Benkaro had thirty six points last night, second best

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Speaker 1: night of the year, thirty six points. But he became

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Speaker 1: such a big part of the offense whenever Luca guarded him,

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Speaker 1: because then you have to move off your guy to

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Speaker 1: help Luca. So the reality of what's happening with Luca

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Speaker 1: and Lebron, do you realize they are the worst Laker

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Speaker 1: tandem plus minus minus eighty two. It doesn't make sense, right,

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Speaker 1: but it does. When Lebron and Ad played together, Ad

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Speaker 1: did what Lebron didn't want to do, defend the rim,

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Speaker 1: defend Biggs, and rebound. So Lebron and Ad were a

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Speaker 1: great fit. Lebron and Kyrie, Well, Lebron was in his

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Speaker 1: athletic prime, so he could help and hide Kyrie's regrettable defense.

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Speaker 1: Both great ball handlers. Kyrie not a pass guy as

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Speaker 1: much as Lebron, but they were really a good fit.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie just didn't like the fit because he didn't have

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Speaker 1: the ball as much. But Kyrie and Lebron were a

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Speaker 1: good fit. Well, what about d Wade, Well, d Wade

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Speaker 1: and Lebron were both in their athletic prime. Maybe Wade

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Speaker 1: was slightly out of it, but they were just two

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Speaker 1: great athletes. Totally committed on the defensive end, so that

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Speaker 1: was a good fit. Lebron and Luca aren't because Lebron

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Speaker 1: can't help the whole the clear deficiency that's in Luca's game.

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Speaker 1: He's an atrocious defender and he's not in great shape,

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Speaker 1: and Lebron doesn't have the four quarter energy he used to.

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Speaker 1: It's not Lebron's fault. So if you want to remain

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Speaker 1: in the Luca business, and the Lakers do, and the

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Speaker 1: Lakers should, you have to shield him. You have to

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Speaker 1: build a roster to assist in hiding his clear deficiency.

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Speaker 1: The entire league knows it, and when you get into

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Speaker 1: a postseason matchup, teams will hunt Luca. Then that's why

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Speaker 1: last year we're like, Oh, Minnesota and the Lakers. That'll

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Speaker 1: be an interesting playoffs series. It was lobsided because the

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Speaker 1: t Wolves got to play against Luca and Austin Reeves

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Speaker 1: back to back to back to back to back, and

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Speaker 1: you can hunt both of them. And so last night,

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Speaker 1: this final play, it's a beautiful play drawn up by

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick. And the Lakers have been very good in

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Speaker 1: clutch spots and they should be because Luca, Lebron and

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Speaker 1: Austin are all capable of being very good closers. They

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Speaker 1: just have repetitive skill sets. The entire damn roster does.

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Speaker 1: So on that final play last night, it's like Luca

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Speaker 1: and Lebron, You're like, oh, it should work. Something sound

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Speaker 1: like they should work, and they just don't work, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm watching this last night

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Speaker 1: and I go look up their plus minus of all

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Speaker 1: the Lakers ten and they actually have the worst. And

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Speaker 1: so you saw it last night in the final play.

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Speaker 1: Here was Luca asked about the final shot, which he

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Speaker 1: should have taken and passed up on. Did you and

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Speaker 1: Lebron have any communication about the final play after or over.

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Speaker 2: When you passed it to him. Did you think he

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Speaker 2: had a shot or.

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Speaker 9: Did you recognize that it was kind of be a

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Speaker 9: tough opportunity.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just saw him open.

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Speaker 10: I didn't want to lose the ball, and we didn't

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Speaker 10: have timeouts, you know, But like I said, you know,

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Speaker 10: I should have picked up the ball. I should attack.

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Speaker 10: I thought I was getting at clean Luca, But that's

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Speaker 10: on me. I know I was open, but I just

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Speaker 10: thought it was a little bit far try to take

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Speaker 10: one dribble closer.

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Speaker 8: Probably should have picked up the ball, just try to attack. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and again it happens. He had an off night, but

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Speaker 8: this is a basketball team that can kind of win

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Speaker 8: one way. Luca has to shoot well because the other

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Speaker 8: team is going to get their points. I mean, Powell

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Speaker 8: Buoncaroll having a year that many people have been disappointed with,

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Speaker 8: and he was the bomb last night.

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Speaker 2: He was outstanding. Could not stop him.

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Speaker 1: And so I think when Luca and Lebron were put together,

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Speaker 1: my take was, well, this is not a very good

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Speaker 1: construct of a roster in terms of defense. But Austin

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Speaker 1: Reeves is great with the ball in his hands. He

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Speaker 1: was excellent last night. Lebron is like Luca, didn't shoewell

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Speaker 1: last night, but he had must have had fifteen assists.

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Speaker 2: So it's a very repetitive roster.

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Speaker 1: But it was great seeing at the end of the game,

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Speaker 1: in a wildly entertaining game, You're like, man, Luca and Lebron,

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Speaker 1: how many games we're a year into this?

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Speaker 2: We're a year into this. I said this yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Randy Maws and Tom Brady seven touchdowns first four games,

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Speaker 1: kad to the Warriors sixteen to two, Messy to Miami

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Speaker 1: MLS imediately impact.

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Speaker 2: We're a year into this that's still not working.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers can't beat any good teams, and Orlando's a

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Speaker 1: disappointing team, and the Lakers led most of the game

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Speaker 1: and it was in La. I'm not anti Luca. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers are going to be in the Luca business and should,

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Speaker 1: but if you want to be in it, you got

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Speaker 1: to get out of the Lebron business. So we always

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Speaker 1: talk about when it comes to quarterback traits, and we

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Speaker 1: all know what traits are, traits like size, arm, mobility, toughness.

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Speaker 1: I would die on this hill. I also think personality

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Speaker 1: is a trait. And this is not a shot at

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, but I said I liked Sam Darnold's humility

557
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Speaker 1: and gratitude out of college a little more than Baker's cockiness.

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Speaker 1: I think personality is a trait. And Sam Donald was

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Speaker 1: on the show yesterday and multiple times I asked him

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Speaker 1: about situations that did not go his way. The New

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Speaker 1: York Jets was a disaster, got benched in Carolina, He

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Speaker 1: was grateful, talked about his teammates, his great coaches, and

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Speaker 1: then I asked him about Minnesota, where he was up

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Speaker 1: for an MVP by about week twelve, Week thirteen, Week fourteen,

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Speaker 1: had a great year, and they moved off him because

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Speaker 1: they didn't want to pay him as much as Seattle

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Speaker 1: would and they were going to go with JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 1: He didn't point fingers, because that's not Sam Donald. Here's

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Speaker 1: what he said instead.

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Speaker 6: I definitely haven't seen it all, but I've seen a

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Speaker 6: lot in the NFL, and I understand kind of the

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Speaker 6: process and then what it takes to you know, I

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Speaker 6: don't understand necessarily what it takes to run an entire

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Speaker 6: organization and run a team, but I understand how difficult

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Speaker 6: it can be. When I sat back and really you know, digested,

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Speaker 6: I guess the information that they didn't want me back,

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Speaker 6: you know, that was you know, a little little bit of.

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Speaker 7: A tough pill to swallow.

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Speaker 6: But when I really stood back and looked at it

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Speaker 6: from afar, I really understood the decision. And I really did,

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Speaker 6: and I'm thankful that I landed in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: You can tell, in my opinion, when somebody has good

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Speaker 1: parents as a kid, because they become an accountable adult,

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Speaker 1: not dumping on people, not holding grudges, not being petty,

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Speaker 1: not being vindictive.

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Speaker 2: You can tell when somebody has good parents.

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Speaker 1: They're an accountable adult, even in loss, even in defeat,

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Speaker 1: even in humiliation, which Sam had multiple times in his career.

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Speaker 1: Never bitter, never a victim, never points a finger, always

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Speaker 1: absolutely accountable. Good to have Sam on yesterday. So I

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Speaker 1: know it's hard for j McAdie Luca, but it is.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting that when Lebron, and this has been

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Speaker 1: one of the criticisms, and I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: fair criticism, but it's kind of a reality of Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: whereas a KD can be a catch and shoot guy,

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Speaker 1: where Steph Curry is actually great off ball Lebron. If

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Speaker 1: Lebron's on your team, even as he ages, you got

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Speaker 1: to kind of run the offense through him. He's a

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Speaker 1: great ball handler, he can always get to the rim.

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Speaker 1: He's a massive mismatch in body size, and he's become

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Speaker 1: a pretty decent albeit inconsistent shooter, but pretty decent shooter.

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Speaker 1: So when Lebron off ball is not a dead eye

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Speaker 1: shooter and off ball you don't take advantage of his straints.

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Speaker 1: So Lebron mostly needs the ball. Well, who leads the

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Speaker 1: NBA in usage, it's Luca. So to me, if you're

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Speaker 1: going to be in the Luca business. You can be

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Speaker 1: in the Luca in Austin business because Austin absolutely can

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Speaker 1: step back. And also if Luca leaves, Austin can take

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Speaker 1: his role. But I find Luca and Lebron to just

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Speaker 1: be clunky that they're both. I mean, Lebron is still

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Speaker 1: last night great first quarter chase, down block. Lebron's still outstanding.

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Speaker 1: He's still an A player a minus. But what Lebron

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Speaker 1: can't do that he could do with Kyrie. He can't

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Speaker 1: overcome a teammate's atrocious defense. He's not giving you those minutes,

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Speaker 1: that energy, that defensive rating.

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Speaker 2: He can't do that anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so with Kyrie he could because Lebron at that

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Speaker 1: point was still the best athlete in the league. So

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Speaker 1: would you at least acknowledge Luke and Lebron. It is

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Speaker 1: kind of clunky A year in. It's weird, it's not ideal.

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Speaker 9: Remember, this team was constructed for Lebron and Ad to

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Speaker 9: carry the tours that for five years.

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Speaker 2: They were all built around Lebron and Ad. It was.

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Speaker 9: But if you had the chance to get Luka Doncic,

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Speaker 9: you don't turn it down and say, well, no, he

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Speaker 9: got Lebron in that role, so now they have basically

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Speaker 9: duplicative skill set, right. Lebron's always made people better found

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Speaker 9: the open player not as good of a shooter as Luca,

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Speaker 9: and you can't at times. Yes it's plunky, but let

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Speaker 9: me just remind people. I know everybody's freaking out nationwide,

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Speaker 9: Lakers sting.

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Speaker 2: They lost Orlando.

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Speaker 9: Like the Lakers were the best clutch team in the

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Speaker 9: league this season, they were number one, and they had

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Speaker 9: a bad night. I mean, Luca had an open shot,

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Speaker 9: he didn't take it.

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Speaker 2: I like Reddick.

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Speaker 9: Do you like Reddick drawing up a twenty eight footer

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Speaker 9: for Luka?

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Speaker 2: Doncicz down, wife, I don't hate it.

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Speaker 1: I thought he not only got the look, yeah, then

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Speaker 1: he had a second look. If you watch the play

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Speaker 1: from the back of the camera at the other basket,

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Speaker 1: not only does JJ raw Reddick right here, he also

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Speaker 1: was ooka he steps in. He's got a second look.

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Speaker 1: So Luca passed twice on second Luke looks and then Lebron,

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Speaker 1: who again off ball, is just sitting and watching it

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Speaker 1: against the ball. He has no choice for the turn

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Speaker 1: and jacket up. So Luke, I think Luca did not

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Speaker 1: shoot well, and I think it was one of those

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Speaker 1: nights he didn't and this is rare, but he didn't

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Speaker 1: trust himself from that distance. He's tried to step in

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the long defender, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, reaches out to defend him. But I will

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Speaker 1: worry about JJ Reddick or the Lakers getting a good

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Speaker 1: final shot. The foster's actually in a half court offense.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a really good roster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Now, if you watch it again, DeAndre Ayton sets the

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Speaker 9: first screen and then he just stands there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, pick and roll.

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Speaker 9: Three guys go to Luca, watch the watch Ayton set

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Speaker 9: the screen and just stand there watching roll to the basket.

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Speaker 9: You get a twelve foot twelve foot little runner. That's

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Speaker 9: that's a wide open. So I mean again, listen, Lakers,

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Speaker 9: it's stunk last night. I will not come off the

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Speaker 9: hill that this team still can contend in the West.

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Speaker 9: You can laugh all you want, my friend, I see

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Speaker 9: you's smirking. They're gonna need things to go their way.

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Speaker 9: I'll remind you this time last year, Colin, did you

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Speaker 9: think the Indiana Pacers could go to the finals. Did

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Speaker 9: you think they could sniff the Finals already.

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Speaker 5: Have them there.

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Speaker 1: Well, things broke away, Eastern conferences different Eastern, Yeah,