Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Dray with Nick Wright, Episode three eighty four.
Speaker 1: This episode of What Ray and Nick Right has brought
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Speaker 1: real quick, before we insame night last night that went
Speaker 1: way too long on the East Coast. It was two
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning out here, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna make it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, And I will admit I missed the
Speaker 1: bottom of the seventeenth, bottom of the seventeenth, I call sleep.
Speaker 1: I woke up and saw the top of the eighteenth
Speaker 1: and the Freddie Freeman walk off. Before we get to that,
Speaker 1: before we get to the Chiefs being the chiefs, a
Speaker 1: quick little fun story demand, how are you goop, Pops?
Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well? So you know this the audience doesn't
Speaker 1: Thursday Interesting day because this past Thursday, the NBA gambling
Speaker 1: scandal breaks, the Chauncey Phillips poke scandal breaks, And that
Speaker 1: night I was already scheduled to be at charity poker tournament,
Speaker 1: and I actually while I was there, got some legit
Speaker 1: intel because I may or may not have been able
Speaker 1: to talk to some people who might have played in
Speaker 1: either some of those games years back, or certainly when
Speaker 1: they read the indictment, they're like, oh, that's odd. I
Speaker 1: sure know that dealer. And so there was some real
Speaker 1: you know, I guess I could write it off on
Speaker 1: my taxes. It was a business expense I was investigating. However,
Speaker 1: here's the reason I bring it up. Hank Azaria, the
Speaker 1: Great Hank Azaria, awesome comic, voice of so many of
Speaker 1: the great Simpsons characters, great actor. He has two charity
Speaker 1: poker tournaments a year. Why is a City Field, partnering
Speaker 1: with the Mets, and the other is at Costa Chippriani
Speaker 1: partnering with the Dream School in Harlem. I go to
Speaker 1: both of them. Last year, the Mets won at City Field,
Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty people in the tournament. I
Speaker 1: won it. And that's how the we won that trip
Speaker 1: to Baha Mar in that crazy suite your mom and
Speaker 1: sisters were staying in with the pool table and the
Speaker 1: butlers and all that nonsense. Uh, that was a I
Speaker 1: won that by winning the charity poker tournament. So I won.
Speaker 1: His Mets won last year, his Dream School won at
Speaker 1: Costa Chippriani Thursday Night one hundred person charity tournament. I'm
Speaker 1: a two time champlain. I've won both his tournaments. For
Speaker 1: this one, I got a trophy all in for Dream
Speaker 1: Poker turna Champion. Shout out Hanka's areas. Shout out Dream
Speaker 1: School in Harlem. Shout out poker pro Andy Frankenberger, who
Speaker 1: before the poker tournament gives lessons to everyone in there
Speaker 1: and then gets dusted by me every year. Shout out
Speaker 1: to my pals Bellin and Metting and everybody who just
Speaker 1: go there, donate money and then watch me hoist the
Speaker 1: trophy every year. What a dream, What an absolute literal dream.
Speaker 1: Dream Again, the Dream School in Harlem. It's great, good money,
Speaker 1: good food, good people, really just outstanding. And so I
Speaker 1: I the prize I I is a sweet with twelve
Speaker 1: tickets at a Knicks game in December. I don't have
Speaker 1: the exact details on it, but that's the that's the
Speaker 1: prize I picked. They were like, oh, you can. One
Speaker 1: of the prizes is I don't know, however, many nights
Speaker 1: at the win in Vegas, like you might like that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, here's the thing that you guys might not know.
Speaker 1: And I tell people this and they're like Oh really,
Speaker 1: is that true. It's like it is true. You can
Speaker 1: stay in Vegas anytime you want for free, as long
Speaker 1: as one of those times you lose enough playing blackjack.
Speaker 1: So I like, I, I don't need free rooms in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I put my work in on that I stay in
Speaker 1: the Aria for free for life, and so so I
Speaker 1: took the knixt tickets, but I won the tournament, very
Speaker 1: happy about it. So and maybe got some real intel
Speaker 1: or some insight on the scandals in the NBA. We're
Speaker 1: not going to get into that today because I have
Speaker 1: to vet some of the anecdotal stories I was told.
Speaker 1: But I I think more names potentially could be coming out.
Speaker 1: And I think people that you wouldn't expect to be
Speaker 1: in some financial trouble might have been in some financial trouble,
Speaker 1: and so the you know, we will table that for now,
Speaker 1: but it's there. I would like to get to straight
Speaker 1: the Voicemail, brought to you by Boost Mobile before we
Speaker 1: get to the Chiefs. And this straight the voicemail is
Speaker 1: going to be a long one because we're going to
Speaker 1: discuss last night's baseball game but lucan an't out with injuries,
Speaker 1: and which automatically turns Austin reeves into one of the
Speaker 1: best scorers in the league. Camp Scatibo Scataboo had a
Speaker 1: really scary, awful injury. Glad he had successful surgery, and
Speaker 1: shout out to Big Dom sitting sincerely from the Eagles
Speaker 1: for bringing him cheese steaks and meeting him in the hospital.
Speaker 1: Big Dom actually does seem like a really good dude.
Speaker 1: A little I know, I poketonically, yeah, but he does
Speaker 1: seem like a really good dude, So I like, I
Speaker 1: think that's awesome. And then the Dodgers take a two
Speaker 1: to one lead in the World Series and Flatley demans
Speaker 1: one of the greatest baseball games ever.
Speaker 2: Played, apparently, and that.
Speaker 1: That's not hyperbole. And here's the thing. Sometimes games are
Speaker 1: incredibly long, and because of that people call them all
Speaker 1: time great games. But they weren't really great games. They
Speaker 1: were just long went to well. I was fine with
Speaker 1: how long it went. But the point I'm making is this,
Speaker 1: if this thing had ended in nine innings, it would
Speaker 1: have been one of the best World Series games of
Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. The Otani just being a
Speaker 1: fire breathing dragon, combined with Vlattie's scoring from first, the
Speaker 1: amazing plays defensively to nail guys either at the plate
Speaker 1: or at third base. The little controversy early when the
Speaker 1: ump clearly misses ball four, and uh so everybody's going
Speaker 1: to the I think was Bashett is going to first base,
Speaker 1: the guy on first is trying to go to second instead,
Speaker 1: it's a strike and the guy on first gets picked off.
Speaker 1: It was just an un It was unbelievable theater through
Speaker 1: nine innings. Then there was another nine innings of scoreless baseball,
Speaker 1: including Clayton Kershaw being dusted off. Hey, no big deal, Clayton,
Speaker 1: but it's just bases loaded, two outs, extra innings. World
Speaker 1: Series even get us out of this jam, and he
Speaker 1: did all, culminating in Freddie Freeman after hitting a walk
Speaker 1: off Grand Slam in last year's World Series, hitting a
Speaker 1: walk off eighteenth inning leadoff shot to put the Dodgers
Speaker 1: in great position going into tonight's game when Otani is
Speaker 1: gonna pitch, and Otani is pitching the night after becoming
Speaker 1: the first player in World Series history to reach base
Speaker 1: seven times, becoming the first player in World Series history
Speaker 1: to reach base eight times, becoming the first player in
Speaker 1: World Series history to reach base nine times, becoming the
Speaker 1: first player in World Series history to have four extra
Speaker 1: base hits. I mean, this guy had two doubles, two bombs,
Speaker 1: and then they just waved the white flag. It was
Speaker 1: and they and on it and the Dodgers could have
Speaker 1: and maybe should have lost. It was a one man
Speaker 1: offensive show that then got some supporting acting from Freddie
Speaker 1: Freeman and Blue Jay's really gonna be kicking themselves, man,
Speaker 1: especially with George Springer now injured and the opportunity that
Speaker 1: they had. And I just don't understand how you pitched
Speaker 1: Otani in was it the seventh of the eighth when
Speaker 1: he hit the solo bomb the seventh you have taken
Speaker 1: the lead in the top of the seventh. Otani's the
Speaker 1: only guy on the team who's done anything. He's three
Speaker 1: for three with two doubles and a bomb, and you
Speaker 1: pitch to him and he of course hits another bomb.
Speaker 1: Now then after that four straight intentional walks and then
Speaker 1: a regular walk. But man, oh man, yep, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be one you want back. And what you guys can
Speaker 1: tell me on hard rock bet what the Dodgers are
Speaker 1: favored by tonight? Yeah, I mean with Otani on the mound,
Speaker 1: Brown minus two hundred, uh is what I see, and
Speaker 1: they are and Otani's got a you know pitch tonight
Speaker 1: after playing that game. Justin insane set up and one
Speaker 1: of the coolest baseball games anybody's ever seen. I know
Speaker 1: we had an eighteen inning World S game a few
Speaker 1: years ago. This to me was a far better innings
Speaker 1: one through nine game, and then just massive edge of
Speaker 1: your seat drama for innings ten through eighteen, even if
Speaker 1: it was just insanely late. My god, that was a It
Speaker 1: was a tough wake up this morning. All right, everybody
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Speaker 1: all right, Deman's let's get to the Chiefs being the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: So you called last night's win against the Commanders for
Speaker 2: your Chiefs a must win, and you felt like they
Speaker 2: win by a lot. They did win by a lot.
Speaker 2: It was a close game there for a minute, looked like.
Speaker 1: At halftime yeah seven and a half.
Speaker 2: So so what was your biggest takeaway from yesterday's game?
Speaker 1: Hold on, I have a question for you.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 1: Because I think in general you root for you know,
Speaker 1: me and my success and happiness. But I feel like
Speaker 1: you maybe during a game like last night, find yourself
Speaker 1: rooting for the Commanders. Well, just taken down a peg
Speaker 1: a bit. I can just tell it the way you
Speaker 1: the way you asked the question. Like you at halftime
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, could be in a tough spot
Speaker 1: for Pops tomorrow. Do I have that right?
Speaker 2: It was? I mean, I'm never rooting for them to lose,
Speaker 2: but you know, certain teams like the Commanders, I understand,
Speaker 2: like the what are the optics on the Chiefs is
Speaker 2: they lose a game like this? I do. I'm never
Speaker 2: rooting for them to win or rooting for them to lose,
Speaker 2: but but yeah, sometimes I find it a little funny
Speaker 2: when teams hang around with them and stuff and it
Speaker 2: becomes like a bigger game than what it should have been.
Speaker 1: But okay, so listen, this game's here are my snap
Speaker 1: takeaways from it. Okay, So, Patrick, for just the second
Speaker 1: time all year, made a costly mistake. The pick that
Speaker 1: Lanimore got was at the time his third pick of
Speaker 1: the year. Two of what the Jags pick and the
Speaker 1: Latimore pick were, you know, bad throws and or bad decisions.
Speaker 1: And then all later in the first quarter, for the
Speaker 1: second time all year, Patrick made a great throat to
Speaker 1: Travis that Travis bobbled and got picked, and because of that,
Speaker 1: the Commanders were able to hang around. Luckily, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are back to being the Chiefs in full and because
Speaker 1: of that, it flatly did not matter. They had a
Speaker 1: drive in Demondsey. They had a drive in this game
Speaker 1: that was one hundred and nineteen yard touchdown drive because
Speaker 1: they got it started on the six and they got
Speaker 1: penalties on it to where they had to recoup those yards.
Speaker 1: And as I have been screaming from the mountaintops for
Speaker 1: the better part of two years, all Patrick Mahomes' needs
Speaker 1: is a competent offensive line and a league abridge receiving
Speaker 1: corps which now they have above league average, and he
Speaker 1: will instantly look like the best player in the sport
Speaker 1: once again. And that's what's happened last night. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs without starting all Pro right guard Tray Smith
Speaker 1: or certainly pro bowler, I don't know if he's been
Speaker 1: in All Pro, and as they've been the last few
Speaker 1: weeks without starting left tackle Josh Simmons, and the Josh
Speaker 1: Simmons absence looked early on like it could be a problem,
Speaker 1: as Jalen Moore was struggling a bit with who was
Speaker 1: it that, oh, Jacob Martin, But the Chiefs steadied themselves
Speaker 1: at halftime and then after that, it's just an embarrassment
Speaker 1: of riches compared to the receiving corps that they had
Speaker 1: all of last season and the first few weeks of
Speaker 1: this season. And that leads to Travis running wide open,
Speaker 1: Rashi Rice just absolutely cutting people up in yards after
Speaker 1: the catch, and even in a game when Xavier Worthy
Speaker 1: does not do all that much and where Patrick doesn't
Speaker 1: do all that much with his legs, the Chiefs second
Speaker 1: half drives are just touchdown touchdown, touchdown, and that's it.
Speaker 1: And so here is the other major takeaway that impacts
Speaker 1: the season for Kansas City. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: because Andy has adjusted his philosophy. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's because Patrick has more sway or input on decision making.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's because Butcker had been
Speaker 1: so shaky to start the year. But for one reason
Speaker 1: or another, for the first time in Mahomes' career, he
Speaker 1: is on a team that is aggressive rather than conservative
Speaker 1: on fourth downs, and that changes everything for Kansas City.
Speaker 1: They went for a fourth down in their own territory
Speaker 1: early in the game. They went for a fourth and goal.
Speaker 1: They've been doing it all year long. Kareem Hunt is
Speaker 1: just automatic on these fourth and one plays, and because
Speaker 1: of that, they are getting seven when they used to
Speaker 1: get three, and it makes them all the more dynamic
Speaker 1: and all the more dangerous. And I, of course now
Speaker 1: have to remind the audience that since the tackle that
Speaker 1: turned the tide, the Chiefs are a guaranteed minimum twenty
Speaker 1: eight points a game. Once again, they in that Giant's game,
Speaker 1: pre and post tackle that turned the tide, they score
Speaker 1: what thirteen second half points and then after that thirty
Speaker 1: seven against the Ravens, twenty eight against the Jags despite
Speaker 1: a pick at the one yard line, thirty against the Lions,
Speaker 1: despite taking their foot off. No, they didn't take the
Speaker 1: four of the cast in that game was the Ravens game,
Speaker 1: thirty seven against Baltimore through three quarters, twenty eight against
Speaker 1: the Jags, thirty against the Lions, thirty one against the
Speaker 1: Raiders despite going to benching Mahomes in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and twenty eight against the Commanders despite a honestly nothing
Speaker 1: first half. And now they do have demons a real
Speaker 1: AFC playoff team gauntlet coming up Sunday at the Bills,
Speaker 1: then a bye week, then at the Broncos, then home
Speaker 1: for the Colts, and that will that three game stretch
Speaker 1: will determine the AFC West, it will go a long
Speaker 1: way to determining the AFC East for where the Bill's purposes,
Speaker 1: and it will go a long way to determining the
Speaker 1: number one seed in the AFC. And so I could
Speaker 1: not feel better about where this team is right now.
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, by the way, the defense has allowed
Speaker 1: seven points in the last two weeks, so pretty good,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: That's pretty crazy to think about it. I think about it,
Speaker 2: But how are you feeling your confidence level going into
Speaker 2: this Buffalo game? On Sunday? We saw the Buffalo just
Speaker 2: took care of the Panthers after the Bible.
Speaker 1: So it's weird. It's weird because I don't think, if
Speaker 1: I'm being totally honest, I don't think any results gonna
Speaker 1: make me feel good because if they lose, obviously that
Speaker 1: hurts them dramatically in seeding and all of that. But
Speaker 1: they lose to the Bills every year in the regular
Speaker 1: season and then beat them in the playoffs, and if
Speaker 1: they win, then in the back of my head, I will.
Speaker 2: Be like, oh man, this is the opposite.
Speaker 1: Is this gonna be flipped this year? Is this the
Speaker 1: year you beat them in the regular season and lose
Speaker 1: them in the postseason. With that said, I just don't
Speaker 1: think the Bills defense is that good, and particularly who
Speaker 1: is it is? It was it Ed Oliver who got
Speaker 1: hurt for the Bills. Yeah, Ed Oliver uh is gonna
Speaker 1: be out for the Chiefs game, and so he's their
Speaker 1: best defensive player. So that and Taylor rap was already out,
Speaker 1: so that already was concerning for Buffalo, and so that
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are gonna be able to move
Speaker 1: the ball. I don't want to say at will, but
Speaker 1: with relative ease against the Bills. And then the question
Speaker 1: is what can the Bills do against the Chiefs team
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden has the number two scoring
Speaker 1: off defense in football. The Houston Texans are allowing fourteen
Speaker 1: point seven points per game, The Kansasity Chiefs are allowing
Speaker 1: sixteen point four points per game. And so right now
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the dynasty's over, the sky is falling. Mahomes
Speaker 1: isn't Mahomes anymore. Right now, the Chiefs have the number
Speaker 1: two scoring defense and currently the number six scoring offense,
Speaker 1: which is less than one point away from being the
Speaker 1: number five scoring offense. And they've done it, contrary to
Speaker 1: what I think steven A said this morning. They've done
Speaker 1: it against what's supposed to be elite competition, the Ravens,
Speaker 1: the Lions. Obviously they lost to the Chargers and the Eagles,
Speaker 1: but the defense played well in the Eagles game, not
Speaker 1: so much the Chargers game. And now they're about to
Speaker 1: you know, they've got a real This was remember if
Speaker 1: you remember to Mon's ay, this stretch of games is
Speaker 1: why I said before the year that if Rashi's gonna
Speaker 1: be suspended, which he obviously was going to be suspended,
Speaker 1: that I wanted it to be early rather than late.
Speaker 1: And they survived Rashi's suspension. They're now five and three,
Speaker 1: and now they have the stretch of football that will
Speaker 1: determine whether or not they win the AFC West for
Speaker 1: the what it would be tenth straight year, ninth straight year,
Speaker 1: and whether or not they have a real shot the
Speaker 1: one seed, because in the next thirty days they go
Speaker 1: to Buffalo, they get a bye, they go to Denver,
Speaker 1: they host the Colts, and four days after hosting the Colts,
Speaker 1: they're in Dallas on Thanksgiving and what will be Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that Dallas game will be I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and say it now. I wish it were a Fox game.
Speaker 1: It's obviously it's not. It's a CBS game. That'll be
Speaker 1: the highest rated regular season NFL game in years and
Speaker 1: years and years and the because Thanksgiving, the Cowboys Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: game always is the highest rated regular season game of
Speaker 1: the year. And now it's the Cowboys Thanksgiving against Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: All right, what else do we have on this before
Speaker 1: we get to other stuff?
Speaker 2: Where do you think Rashi Rice ranks amongst like top
Speaker 2: weapons Mahomes has ever had him at like two?
Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean he couldn't be higher Tyreek or Kelsey.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I was taking Kelsey out. I was
Speaker 2: just thinking receivers, but I guess.
Speaker 1: You were just yeah, amongst receivers, he would be number two.
Speaker 1: Amongst weapons, he actually he actually might be number four
Speaker 1: at the with Kelsey, Tyreek and number three as far
Speaker 1: as weapons Mahomes has ever had. Who'd you say?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Mcole Hartman.
Speaker 1: No, Mahomes' first year as a starter before he got
Speaker 1: kicked off the team, Kareem Hunt and he's back now, obviously,
Speaker 1: But Kareem the year before Mahomes got there, or Mahomes
Speaker 1: was there. But Kareem and Mahomes were rookies the same year.
Speaker 1: But obviously Mahomes didn't play his rookie year. Kareem's rookie season,
Speaker 1: he had thirteen hundred yards rushing, four hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: yards receiving almost eighteen hundred total yards, and eleven touchdowns. Mahomes'
Speaker 1: first year as a starter, Kareem played eleven games. In
Speaker 1: those eleven games, he had twelve hundred yards total receiving
Speaker 1: and rushing and fourteen touchdowns and then he got kicked
Speaker 1: off the team for the domestic violence incident. And the
Speaker 1: Chiefs have never had a thousand yard rusher in that timeframe,
Speaker 1: and Mahomes whole career as a starter, so that he
Speaker 1: was dynamic, and so that's how But Rashi has a
Speaker 1: chance to be, without a doubt, the third best weapon
Speaker 1: Mahomes has ever had, if he's not already, I mean,
Speaker 1: Rashi is. Rashi is such a great player. He's just
Speaker 1: a great, great player, and his teammates adore him, which
Speaker 1: is helpful given the trouble he got himself in off
Speaker 1: the field and then obviously him having to deal with
Speaker 1: the injury. All Right, one look at the other side
Speaker 1: of this game.
Speaker 2: So Washington has a pretty tough schedule coming up. They
Speaker 2: came into the last game with some injuries and they're
Speaker 2: leaving this game with some more. Do you think it's
Speaker 2: time to sell all your washingtons?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, so there's I guess there's two
Speaker 1: ways to talk about selling with the Commanders. One is
Speaker 1: selling their stock figuratively like you're talking about and absolutely
Speaker 1: if you if you're holding any Washington stock at this point,
Speaker 1: that's going to zero for this season. They're three and
Speaker 1: five next to Seahawks, Lions, still games left against the Broncos,
Speaker 1: Cowboys and two against the Eagles. This absolutely could be
Speaker 1: a year from hell six and eleven Season four the Commanders.
Speaker 1: As far as trading off players, I mean, if I
Speaker 1: don't know what players they have that would be teams
Speaker 1: would be super excited about going after. So I if
Speaker 1: you could get a team to bite on Marshawn Lattimore,
Speaker 1: I would trade him. But you just traded for him
Speaker 1: a year ago. I don't so I don't think that's realistic. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you want you just extended McLaurin, you just traded for Debo.
Speaker 1: Those guys you're holding on to Doran Payne, maybe I
Speaker 1: think you would have to consider trading Doran Payin. He's
Speaker 1: got one year left on his contract after this, but
Speaker 1: he's probably your best defensive player. So maybe maybe you
Speaker 1: just kind of have to stampat if you're Washington because
Speaker 1: you feel like this is just an unlucky regression year
Speaker 1: and those are you know that you'll be back next season,
Speaker 1: but demon's they're done, Like do you do you think
Speaker 1: I'm overstating it. I think they have no shot of
Speaker 1: being I picked them to win that division. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that they are. If we look at the the
Speaker 1: NFC playoff picture right now, if just the way the
Speaker 1: standings read for the playoff picture, Green Bay, Philly, Tampa, Seattle, Detroit, Rams, Niners.
Speaker 1: Those your five win teams. Then you have Chicago and
Speaker 1: Carolina as four win teams, Dallas, Atlanta, Minnesota, Washington is
Speaker 1: three win teams even if you feel like San Francisco,
Speaker 1: because I to me, Green Bay, Philly, Tampa, Detroit and
Speaker 1: the Rams are just really good teams that are gonna
Speaker 1: make it. I also think Seattle is a pretty damn
Speaker 1: good team. It doesn't feel like they have the faith
Speaker 1: of the rest of the nation entirely, and the Rams
Speaker 1: are just I'm sorry, the Niners are just so banged
Speaker 1: up right that you feel like they could regress. But
Speaker 1: if I'm right that Seattle is just a good team
Speaker 1: and there's only gonna be one of those top seven
Speaker 1: that could fall off, and that's San Francisco, I would
Speaker 1: think Chicago or Dallas are far more likely to take
Speaker 1: advantage of the Niners falling off than the Commanders. Given
Speaker 1: that the Commanders have Seattle and Detroit, two games against
Speaker 1: Philly left. Now here's what I'll say for the Commanders.
Speaker 1: I am writing them off already. Season officially on the
Speaker 1: line Sunday against the Lions, Sunday Night full I'm sorry
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. That's the game that's Sunday Night football
Speaker 1: season on the line against the Seahawks, because maybe the
Speaker 1: Seahawks could be a little shakier than I'm giving them
Speaker 1: credit for. You when that game they're five and three,
Speaker 1: you're four and five, and you have the head to
Speaker 1: head tiebreaker with them. The problem is the Seahawks still
Speaker 1: have games left against the Cardinals, Titans, Vikings, Falcons, Panthers,
Speaker 1: and a Week eighteen game against a Niners team that
Speaker 1: might be done at that point. I just think I
Speaker 1: think the Commanders. I think it's I don't think they're
Speaker 1: First of all, they've been super injured. Second of all,
Speaker 1: I just don't think they've played that well. Third of all,
Speaker 1: I don't know when Jaden's coming back. All that to
Speaker 1: me says they're done. I just think they're done. Today's
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Before we get to the game, let's talk
Speaker 2: about Lebar Jackson and how it seems that Baltimore amount
Speaker 2: of lied on their injury report. You know, we've got
Speaker 2: the whole thing going on with the NBA right now,
Speaker 2: so it's a sensitive time. But you think that everybody's
Speaker 2: missing the real story and this debacle? What what was? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So listen, I don't I understand why of all the
Speaker 1: weeks to be like, oh, our bad our quarterback that
Speaker 1: we said was a full participant was actually limited and
Speaker 1: he didn't take any reps with the ones. He was
Speaker 1: actually out with the scout team, and that everybody thinks
Speaker 1: he's playing is not playing. Why this was the worst
Speaker 1: week imaginable to make that mistake. From a conspiratorial perspective,
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I do not think that's the story.
Speaker 1: I think that's secondary to the story. And the story
Speaker 1: is I believe the Ravens lied on the injury report
Speaker 1: not to get a competitive advantage, but they lied on
Speaker 1: the injury report as a way to pressure Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: into play. And this demands follows a pattern. And I
Speaker 1: am going to lay it all out for you with
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh's own words in twin And keep in mind,
Speaker 1: Lamar has no agent. Lamar is self represented. There's mom
Speaker 1: does it. And the reason I say that is because
Speaker 1: whenever you hear reports about Lamar's status, it only can
Speaker 1: come from the team. He doesn't have an agent feeding
Speaker 1: rap reporter schefter stuff and so and by the way,
Speaker 1: can we please get just a sidebark? Can we please
Speaker 1: get real news at some point? Again, I mean we
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz evidently has been at a broken entire left
Speaker 1: side of his body for three weeks, not reported anywhere.
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs. It suffered a concussion at home that has
Speaker 1: now put him on the IR We have no info
Speaker 1: about it. Lamar Jackson, Nobody had a clue he might
Speaker 1: actually miss time and didn't really practice until Saturday morning.
Speaker 1: And yet in place of that, instead of getting that
Speaker 1: real info, what we get is the same five people
Speaker 1: racing to publish the exact same information seconds ahead of
Speaker 1: each other about extensions and undrafted free agents signing with
Speaker 1: practice squads, with agents cited and agencies credited. It's just gross.
Speaker 1: And you also, I like, you saw it again yesterday
Speaker 1: with with who is it that? Oh uh, what's his name?
Speaker 1: The great Sir Tan, Sir Tan, Sir Tan got hurt
Speaker 1: and Jordan Schultz, to his credit, had it first, and
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this is multi week, four to six weeks,
Speaker 1: maybe IR is a question. And then we get this
Speaker 1: and this might seem unfair, but from one of the
Speaker 1: you know, biggest insiders, patxer Tan, the ranking defensive player
Speaker 1: the year, suffered a peckin strain in the win over
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He's considered weak to weak and could land
Speaker 1: on IR. But solid news. What that's not solid again,
Speaker 1: that's not a positive news story. It sucks. It's football.
Speaker 1: There's injuries, but everything doesn't have to be framed as
Speaker 1: avoiding catastrophe better than expected, the team is relieved. If
Speaker 1: everything is better than expected, then nothing is better than expected.
Speaker 1: But I digress to go to the Harball Ravens thing,
Speaker 1: a Harball Lamar Thing. Twenty twenty one. Lamar hurts his
Speaker 1: ankle Week fourteen, John Harbaugh says about him playing Week
Speaker 1: fifteen again, there were games week fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 1: about him playing week fe I'd say he has a chance.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things. It's an ankle spring. If
Speaker 1: he starts feeling good and everything is all right, we'll
Speaker 1: check him out, probably pregame. So Harbaugh's saying he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a true game time decision. He's in all the
Speaker 1: preparations and all of that. We'll see where we're at.
Speaker 1: Lamar did not play again that season, and then after
Speaker 1: the year, John Harbaugh says, quote, Lamar felt like he
Speaker 1: was going to be back. The first week, he thought
Speaker 1: he had a chance. The second week he assured me,
Speaker 1: he said, I'll be back. He missed four straight weeks.
Speaker 1: Then next year, Lamar gets hurt in Week thirteen during
Speaker 1: the game there are five games left plus the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Harbaugh says, it's not a season ending type of knee.
Speaker 1: Will get more tests tomorrow and let you know how
Speaker 1: long it's going to be. We'll see if he can
Speaker 1: go back. If he can go back this week for
Speaker 1: week fourteen, If not, he'll be some time after that. Shortly,
Speaker 1: Lamar missed the rest of the regular season, missed five
Speaker 1: straight games. The Ravens schefter then reports, because Ravens made
Speaker 1: the playoffs anyway, that Lamar is expected to play in
Speaker 1: the playoff game according to sources. Again, there are no
Speaker 1: Lamar sources other than the Ravens. Lamar then misses the
Speaker 1: playoff game. And then if you remember, tweets out about
Speaker 1: how it's a grade to almost a grade three PCL
Speaker 1: strain and a lot of us, my self included, speculated
Speaker 1: i'd do with Remember he didn't have a contract that
Speaker 1: p protecting himself because of the contract, which is totally reasonable.
Speaker 1: Then there's the hamstring injury this year. After the Rams
Speaker 1: game sixteen days ago, John Harball was asked about Lamar
Speaker 1: about his optimism surrounding the team going into the by
Speaker 1: and he said, quote, our quarterback is going to be back.
Speaker 1: That's probably a big one. And then Friday after practice
Speaker 1: Harbaugh said full practice today for Lamar, so that was good.
Speaker 1: There is only one way to read those sequence of events.
Speaker 1: That sequence of events. Lamar and the Ravens are consistently
Speaker 1: not on the same page about Lamar's injury timelines, and
Speaker 1: I believe the Ravens listed him as a full participant
Speaker 1: and talked about him as if it was a certainty
Speaker 1: that he was going to play on Sunday as a
Speaker 1: way to pressure him into playing, and then Saturday morning
Speaker 1: Lamar shut it all down. I'm not saying who's right
Speaker 1: and who's wrong in this. It's certainly in play. The
Speaker 1: Ravens are just far too optimistic, and it's in play
Speaker 1: that Lamar is the type of player who if he
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel close to one hundred percent, he doesn't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable going out there, So be it. I'm not
Speaker 1: judging any of that. I am saying failing to acknowledge
Speaker 1: that that is the clear cut inarguable history year is
Speaker 1: failing to just read the transcripts. And it is because
Speaker 1: of that demanse that I while I think Lamar is
Speaker 1: going to play Thursday night, I am not certain of it.
Speaker 1: And even though Harbaugh said yesterday it's full practice or
Speaker 1: expecting him to play. I don't think you.
Speaker 2: Can understand that. There's like you're saying, Lamar doesn't have
Speaker 2: an agent, but Lamar has somebody that's looking at his
Speaker 2: body when he goes to get checked on on this
Speaker 2: type of stuff. Why are they not just talking into
Speaker 2: the Ravens. I'm kind of confused on why there's not
Speaker 2: just a doctor or somebody telling him, oh, he's out
Speaker 2: for X amount of weeks.
Speaker 1: Because what's pretty clear is to me because yeah, he
Speaker 1: has a doctor. It's the Ravens doctor, and Todd Munkin
Speaker 1: alluded to this a week ago about whether or not
Speaker 1: Lamar had been cleared. What is pretty clear, given Harbaugh's
Speaker 1: comments is throughout all of these injuries, and again maybe
Speaker 1: the Ravens team doctor is doing a bad job, but
Speaker 1: he has been cleared.
Speaker 2: To play each time, and he is saying.
Speaker 1: I can't, right, and that I think is frustrating has
Speaker 1: frustrated the Ravens over the years because it the way
Speaker 1: it works is this, you cannot play without the doctor
Speaker 1: clearing you. But once the doctor clears you, you then
Speaker 1: have to be comfortable to play, obviously, right, and I
Speaker 1: am reading this as a very obvious path of the
Speaker 1: doctor clearing him and him saying, no, I'm not comfortable
Speaker 1: playing again. Maybe it's the Ravens team doctor issue. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm really not banging on Lamar on this. I
Speaker 1: am saying that there is a clear disconnect between coach,
Speaker 1: medical staff, and player. Now, with all that said, Demonse,
Speaker 1: the Ravens are now the favorite to win the division
Speaker 1: and the Snoop Huntley saved their season saw some performance.
Speaker 1: And if you look at their schedule coming up, and
Speaker 1: you look at the Bengals blowing a game, just blowing
Speaker 1: against the Jets and the Steelers getting thoroughly outplayed by
Speaker 1: the Packers, you fully expect, Demonse, the Ravens to win
Speaker 1: their next four, correct.
Speaker 2: I mean they could win the rest of the games exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean sure they could win any of those individual games,
Speaker 1: but you would be stunned if they lose any of
Speaker 1: the next four. At Miami Thursday night at the Vikings,
Speaker 1: who are a mess, at the Browns, who have the
Speaker 1: worst offense in football, home for the Jets. So they
Speaker 1: should be six and five going into the meat of
Speaker 1: going into the stretch run, where in those final six
Speaker 1: weeks they have two games against the Bengals two games
Speaker 1: against the Steelers, a Packers game, and a Patriot game,
Speaker 1: and throw that schedule back up. They will be favored
Speaker 1: in every game they play until week seventeen. They will
Speaker 1: be favored obviously in all their home games, and they
Speaker 1: will be road favorites against Tua, JJ McCarthy, whoever the
Speaker 1: Browns quarterback is at that point, and Jake Joe Flackham,
Speaker 1: and then they'll be So they've got a shot. Now
Speaker 1: Here is a real scenario we've got on our hands,
Speaker 1: which would be hilarious. Let's say the Patriots have some
Speaker 1: gaudy record, which they cook. They're six and two already.
Speaker 1: Let's say that Patriots go twelve and five. I think
Speaker 1: it's totally reasonable, given I think the Patriots play one
Speaker 1: game the rest of the way against AFC teams currently
Speaker 1: in the playoff picture. Okay, they it's their second Bills game.
Speaker 1: So let's say they go twelve and five and win
Speaker 1: the AFC East, and the Bills also go twelve and five. Okay,
Speaker 1: but the Patriots win the AFC East this is a tiebreaker,
Speaker 1: and the Ravens go eight and nine, but that's good
Speaker 1: enough to win the AFC North. They split with Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: they split with Pittsburgh, they lose the Packer game, and
Speaker 1: what's their record right now? Two and five? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: whatever it is. They go eight and nine, but it's
Speaker 1: enough to win the AFC North, the Ravens, the eight
Speaker 1: and nine Ravens hosting in the playoffs, the twelve and
Speaker 1: five Buffalo Bills, or the twelve and five New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: or the twelve and five Denver Bronco or if I'm
Speaker 1: wrong about the Chiefs, the twelve and five, like the rate,
Speaker 1: the worst division winner, no matter the record, will host
Speaker 1: the best wild card, and the best wild card in
Speaker 1: the AFC this year is gonna have a great record.
Speaker 1: Be it the Pats, be it the Bills, be it
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, be it the Chargers, be it the Broncos.
Speaker 1: One of those teams is gonna win eleven, maybe twelve
Speaker 1: games and have to go to an eight or nine
Speaker 1: win Baltimore or Cincinnati or Pittsburgh. And it's just what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen in so hard? All right? Flip side is
Speaker 1: the Bears game?
Speaker 2: The Bears. So Caleb made some more errors. That Ravens
Speaker 2: defense that everybody's been talking trash about they looked pretty good.
Speaker 1: Well he has people talking trash or they were just watching.
Speaker 2: They've been bad, They've they've been pretty bad. But yeah,
Speaker 2: how many more errors or how long will you give
Speaker 2: Caleb before you give up on him?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to give up on him anytime soon.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't good. I mean, I'm not gonna act
Speaker 1: like he was good. And that was a huge missed
Speaker 1: opportunity for them, for him and for them, And you'd
Speaker 1: like to give him a pass, be like, oh, they
Speaker 1: were on a four game winning streak, they were bound
Speaker 1: to lose, but you can't losing that game in that
Speaker 1: fashion to Tyler Huntley and Caleb playing that mediocre is
Speaker 1: a huge disappointment. Now, I still think, as I was
Speaker 1: saying when I was doing the playoff picture before, they're
Speaker 1: super live. Right now, they're in eighth place, and I
Speaker 1: think San Francisco is going to be trending in the
Speaker 1: wrong direction. And their next two demanse. Their next three,
Speaker 1: I should say, are Bengals, Giants, Vikings. So the Bears
Speaker 1: should be seven and three. They should be seven and
Speaker 1: three going in to a really tough stretch of games,
Speaker 1: and so but Caleb's gotta play better. There's no way
Speaker 1: around it. Caleb Flaty has to play better. Uh, And
Speaker 1: I think at this point, I think everybody can acknowledge
Speaker 1: and accept that.
Speaker 2: Do you think the Chicago's more committed to Caleb or
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson?
Speaker 1: He's fully committed to both. I mean, the thing is this,
Speaker 1: Ben took the job because of Caleb, so the he
Speaker 1: wants to make this work. But Caleb's gotta play better.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no sugar coating that. All right, let's
Speaker 1: go to Eagles shines all.
Speaker 2: Right, for the first time all year. Philly looked good
Speaker 2: on all angles, are all fronts. Saquan was doing his thing,
Speaker 2: Jalen was doing his thing getting it to his guys.
Speaker 2: But this all came from a game without AJ Brown?
Speaker 2: Is there some worry there?
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna trade AJ Brown, but this
Speaker 1: game I think certainly made it slightly more likely. And listen,
Speaker 1: credit to the Eagles. They looked awesome and Saquon finally
Speaker 1: looked like Saquon. Now we'll see. Was that a blip
Speaker 1: for this what's gonna be a down down season for him?
Speaker 1: Or was that the turning point of the season and
Speaker 1: they get the buy now, and they feel like we
Speaker 1: haven't even played that well. We're six and two, where
Speaker 1: a game out of first place in the conference going
Speaker 1: into the bye. We've played a brutal schedule. Jalen has
Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns total, fifteen passing touchdowns in one interception. Like
Speaker 1: they just don't throw for a lot of yards, but
Speaker 1: they're super efficient, so they feel good about all that do.
Speaker 1: I think, though it's on the board demons that Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: or Buffalo or New England make Philly an offer for
Speaker 1: AJ Brown that they really have to consider. I do
Speaker 1: because I do think this is likely AJ's last year
Speaker 1: with the team. I just think it's too much and
Speaker 1: he's a great player, but the fact that he wasn't
Speaker 1: satisfied seemingly after last week's game, and then this week
Speaker 1: he missed and the offense looked amazing satisfied after the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, Yeah right, And so I do think that
Speaker 1: that is the biggest name by far trade deadline's a
Speaker 1: week from today. That's the biggest name by far to
Speaker 1: watch is AJ Brown, and I I don't think that
Speaker 1: they will move off of him, But I don't think
Speaker 1: it is ridiculous to discuss all right, I know that
Speaker 1: you got it.
Speaker 2: There's no more more toush push controversy. Do you see
Speaker 2: Philadelphia abusing this play before it gets exonerated or obliterated.
Speaker 2: It's the shower.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think what happened in this game. If
Speaker 1: I were a Giants fan, I'd have been beside myself.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was outrageous. And here's the thing, and
Speaker 1: here's what's frustrating for opponents. It feels like it's a
Speaker 1: one way street on forward progress on the tush push
Speaker 1: because what you often see is they stop the initial
Speaker 1: push and then there's like a beat of progress being stopped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Jalen is not down because he's kind of
Speaker 1: surfing on top of Linemen gets pushed further. Well, that's
Speaker 1: fine if that's what we're gonna do, But then that
Speaker 1: is a lie. Unless if it's at the goal line,
Speaker 1: then so be it, because the moment you crossed the
Speaker 1: goal line, the play's debt. But that wasn't it the
Speaker 1: goal line, And that was as clear of a fumble
Speaker 1: as you'll ever see. And for the rest to say
Speaker 1: we whistled it dead, and then for us to hear
Speaker 1: the audio and be like, no, you didn't that the
Speaker 1: ball came out well before there was any whistle.
Speaker 2: It's like, I just feel like we shouldn't be giving
Speaker 2: any benefits to the Like it's composite.
Speaker 1: You would think it would go that way. Like we
Speaker 1: hate this play. We almost ban this play, so you
Speaker 1: better not line up in the neutral zone false start fumble.
Speaker 1: But instead they get that it's the other way. We
Speaker 1: hate the play and we let you do things on
Speaker 1: it you can't do it any other play. So I
Speaker 1: I just I keep thinking we're gonna be at a
Speaker 1: tipping point in it, and Brady, it keeps happening during
Speaker 1: these huge Brady Fox games where Brady is pointing out
Speaker 1: the thing's wrong with it, and nothing change. So I
Speaker 1: really don't know. All right, hold on, I gotta do
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna be totally candid about my Chad
Speaker 1: Powers experience. When they first announce that this was going
Speaker 1: to be a show, I had to say I didn't
Speaker 1: quite get it because I was like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: like a character Eli Manning created or the Mannings created,
Speaker 1: and I know the people at Omaha. One of the
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Speaker 1: First Things First is a big wig over at Omaha.
Speaker 1: The guy who hired me at Fox is the head
Speaker 1: of Omaha. So I wanted to give him the benefit
Speaker 1: of it's the production company they made it. I want
Speaker 1: to give the benefit of that out. But I was like,
Speaker 1: how is this fake character that the Mannings created for
Speaker 1: Skips going to turn into a show? And then I
Speaker 1: watched it as part of this sponsorship with our friends
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Speaker 1: was like, they made a hell of a show. So
Speaker 1: the context, again, I don't want to give it all away,
Speaker 1: but here's the context. Star Quarterback who And it was
Speaker 1: actually ended up being very kind of relevant to things
Speaker 1: that we see in current football. Oddly, star quarterback fumbles
Speaker 1: the National Championship away and in really embarrassing fashion, not
Speaker 1: like oh, great play by the other team, Like no,
Speaker 1: it's dropping the ball before the goal line type of fumble,
Speaker 1: and then flips out and there's a tough incident with
Speaker 1: a Make a Wish kid's dad, and it's all on
Speaker 1: TV and now the guy's you know, smash cut to
Speaker 1: almost a decade later, and the guy's life's a mess.
Speaker 1: He was going to be a star NFL quarterback instead,
Speaker 1: this one mistake has kind of ruined his life. And
Speaker 1: then and this is where the Hollywood hijinks comes in.
Speaker 1: He decides kind of what is if you? Kind of
Speaker 1: an allusion to necessary roughness, the Great Eighties movie with
Speaker 1: Kathy Ireland and Sinbad and others, and a little bit
Speaker 1: of Lady Bugs, the Rodney Dangerfield movie. They're like, hey,
Speaker 1: what if I create a whole new persona Chad powers
Speaker 1: and I go back to college and try to basically
Speaker 1: remake what my career could have been. So that's the
Speaker 1: context of the show. And not surprisingly, throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the season, what you see is again spoilers, this
Speaker 1: guy crushes, but there's a little bit of a love
Speaker 1: triangle involved. There might be some cheating on spouses involving
Speaker 1: the coach, his family. There's there's drama. It's a comedy,
Speaker 1: but there's drama, all set on the backdrop of this
Speaker 1: guy trying to keep his identity hidden while he leads
Speaker 1: his fictitious college team to a national championship. So that
Speaker 1: is and I thought this was gonna be a one
Speaker 1: season arc, but it's not. And again this is the
Speaker 1: in the end of the spoilers. Season one ends on
Speaker 1: the ultimate cliffhanger as far as the love triangle, the
Speaker 1: health of one of the main characters, the championship football game,
Speaker 1: all of it is right there on the brink snap
Speaker 1: season over, and they just leave you waiting for season two.
Speaker 1: So that is that. That's your quick recap. And Glenn Powell,
Speaker 1: who's a legitimate superstar in Hollywood obviously is the main character.
Speaker 1: And he's great and he kind of he has to play.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw the Glenn Powell
Speaker 1: movie got starn it, I should have. He plays an
Speaker 1: assassin in a movie where he plays a bunch of
Speaker 1: different characters that are all the same guy. He's the
Speaker 1: same guy playing a bunch of different characters. He has
Speaker 1: to He does something similar here where he plays himself
Speaker 1: with the not himself, not Glen Powell but whatever, the
Speaker 1: jerk quarterback that blew it all, and the nerd. Chad
Speaker 1: Powers is a double life. He's playing both characters. He's
Speaker 1: really good at this, playing two different characters type of thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: he did in the movies, done in this. So that
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Speaker 1: All right, demons, let's get to Packers Steelers while I
Speaker 1: put my my I don't know if this is windbreaker
Speaker 1: jacket whatever it is back on, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: So we thought that the Packer Steelers game was gonna
Speaker 2: be a Rogers revenge game, but This ended up being
Speaker 2: a good joy love game, played one of his best
Speaker 2: games of his career. So far. Green Bay remains the
Speaker 2: number one seed. Pittsburgh standing is in more jeopardy. Who
Speaker 2: who do you think this is bigger on? Do you
Speaker 2: think this is more about Green Bay or is this
Speaker 2: more about Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1: Listen, I think it's huge for both. Pittsburgh could be
Speaker 1: in real trouble and Fair's fair. It's you know, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers held up his end to this Pittsburgh deal. The
Speaker 1: defense has no Rogers has not own that chat. The
Speaker 1: the Glenn Powell movie was hit Man, I called Assassin,
Speaker 1: same thing, but uh Rogers. Rogers is just never gonna
Speaker 1: throw for a bunch of yards again. It's just not
Speaker 1: in his game. But he's still efficient, he's still accurate,
Speaker 1: he's still gonna make some wow plays. The defense has
Speaker 1: been dreadful, low the Jets to score thirty plus, allowed
Speaker 1: Joe Flacko and the Bengals score thirty plus, and just
Speaker 1: allowed the Packers score thirty plus and now and Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: when you look at their schedule, Deman's this is one
Speaker 1: of the This is why the Ravens are the favorites now.
Speaker 1: Colts Chargers, and then in the final six weeks Buffalo,
Speaker 1: Baltimore twice Detroit. They could be in real trouble. Green Bay.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I do think that was the
Speaker 1: best game of Jordan Love's regular season career. I thought
Speaker 1: he was fantastic. And when Love plays even close to
Speaker 1: that level, they're the best team in the NFC. And
Speaker 1: because the defense is great, I know, the defense had
Speaker 1: you know, a brief moment where it's like, oh, what's
Speaker 1: going on? The defense is great, and when Love is
Speaker 1: dealing like that, they're as good as any team. And
Speaker 1: that I think they're the best team in that conference.
Speaker 1: And so I think Pittsburgh could be in real trouble.
Speaker 1: And I think that the Packers at this moment. Let
Speaker 1: me put it like this, And that's why I called
Speaker 1: Jordan Love the most interesting person in the NFL this year.
Speaker 1: If you believe in Jordan Love, you should believe the
Speaker 1: Packers are going to go to the super Bowl. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm sixty percent of the way to believing in Jordan Love,
Speaker 1: but I'm not fully there. So that's why I don't
Speaker 1: have them going to the super Bowl. But if he play,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's played really well. His numbers this year
Speaker 1: are unbelievable. I don't think he's played quite as well
Speaker 1: as his numbers, but his numbers are great. All right, Demante,
Speaker 1: Let's go to Broncos Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Broncos they went out there, they beat
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. We said that was gonna be a crazy matchup.
Speaker 2: Cowboys defense obviously sucks, but you gotta start to believe
Speaker 2: in Denver a little bit at this point.
Speaker 1: Huh, well, this is gonna make Bronco fans so mad.
Speaker 1: Classic one by me instantly correct, and I should have
Speaker 1: had the producers pulled the tape of our preseason show
Speaker 1: when I picked Denver to miss the playoffs, and I said,
Speaker 1: come around week eight, I'm going to be getting dozens,
Speaker 1: if not hundreds of tweets of people for the five
Speaker 1: and three Denver Broncos saying, see how wrong you were?
Speaker 1: Ready to admit bo Nicks is legit. Now they're six
Speaker 1: and two, not five and three, And uh, I'll give
Speaker 1: you my full Broncos thoughts in a second. But when
Speaker 1: I picked them to miss the playoffs, I anticipated that
Speaker 1: they would get off to a hot start and then
Speaker 1: really slow down late in the year. Now, Part of
Speaker 1: that anticipation was I thought the two Raider games they
Speaker 1: had late in the year were gonna be tough, and
Speaker 1: part of that all so was I thought the Raiders
Speaker 1: were gonna be good, which is why I said I
Speaker 1: had Denver finishing last in the division. The Raiders are
Speaker 1: not playing along with me on that, so I do
Speaker 1: have to concede at this point Denver is not going
Speaker 1: to finish last in the AFC West. I am not
Speaker 1: ready at all to concede that they're definitely making the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and I certainly don't think they're going to win the division.
Speaker 1: What I do think is this, the way bo Nicks
Speaker 1: has played the last five quarters makes them one of
Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL. I just do not
Speaker 1: at all believe that is sustainable or really who he
Speaker 1: is now. If he keeps up even close to what
Speaker 1: he's been the last five quarters, from the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: of the Giants game through the entire Cowboys game, then
Speaker 1: that team is exactly what Sean Payton thought. It was
Speaker 1: great defense, very good offensive line, stud quarterback, you know,
Speaker 1: all the pieces you'd want. I don't think that's legit,
Speaker 1: and you know we'll see I am so I am
Speaker 1: not yet ready to concede anything close that I was
Speaker 1: wrong about Denver because I anticipated they would get off
Speaker 1: to a good start this year. Now, did I think
Speaker 1: they were gonna win the Eagles game. No, But and
Speaker 1: I would have thought when I was said they'd be
Speaker 1: five and three through eight, I thought they'd beat the
Speaker 1: Colts and lose to the Bengals because I didn't know
Speaker 1: Burrow was gonna be hurt, and I didn't know the
Speaker 1: Colts were gonna be this good. Regardless though, I expected
Speaker 1: them to beat the Jets, Giants, Cowboys. I said it
Speaker 1: on the preview show. Now, those the Jets and Giants
Speaker 1: games were weird and ugly, but they got the win.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys game I got dead. I didn't expect
Speaker 1: them to beat the Cowboys going into the Cowboys game,
Speaker 1: but before the year I did going into the Cowboys
Speaker 1: game the Cowboys, I picked the Cowboys. I bet on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I got it dead wrong. The defense is awesome.
Speaker 1: I am worried about the certain injury, and I again,
Speaker 1: if bo Nicks turned a corner during that Giants game,
Speaker 1: then this team is to be taken very seriously. We'll
Speaker 1: see on that. And I think he has. While I
Speaker 1: expect the Broncos to win Demons because I don't know
Speaker 1: how Houston's gonna be able to move the ball against
Speaker 1: the Broncos defense. Bo has a nice test in front
Speaker 1: of him with the Texans defense. Yeah, that Texans s
Speaker 1: defens is awesome.
Speaker 2: I bet that's got to be an opinion changer for
Speaker 2: you though. Like if he goes in plays well against
Speaker 2: the Captions defense, yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know that don't matter. That'll matter. And the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, they just can't beat good teams.
Speaker 1: They score forty a game against teams below five hundred,
Speaker 1: they score twenty five a game against teams at or
Speaker 1: above five hundred, but they've lost or tied all those games.
Speaker 1: And so you know, credit to the Broncos they for
Speaker 1: totally proving me wrong in that game. As far as
Speaker 1: proving me wrong in the season, we'll see, all right.
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Speaker 1: let's quickly do MVP before we do the rest of
Speaker 1: the games around the NFL.
Speaker 2: We didn't get to so a few weeks ago, the
Speaker 2: MVP was coming down to Mahomes with Baker at second.
Speaker 2: Baker is now behind Jordan Love and Jared goff and
Speaker 2: at eighth place. But a dark chorus has appeared and
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor and you said a while back that Jonathan
Speaker 2: Taylor had a better case to win than Saquon had
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 1: Care to explain, Yeah, so I just think Jonathan. Listen,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones isn't as good as Jalen Hurts. We know
Speaker 1: that the Eagles the Colts don't have the defense the
Speaker 1: Eagles did. We know that the Colts have good wide receivers.
Speaker 1: They don't have aj Brown and Devonte Smith. And as
Speaker 1: amazing as saque On two thousand yards were last year,
Speaker 1: Derek Henry had like nineteen hundred, right, and Saguan didn't
Speaker 1: have these crazy touchdown numbers Jonathan Taylor right now is
Speaker 1: that the rushing numbers are insane. With Jonathan Taylor compared
Speaker 1: to everyone else, he has eight hundred and fifty yards rushing.
Speaker 1: Second place has seven hundred and fifty three. He has
Speaker 1: the I'm trying to see how many like total yards
Speaker 1: he is because he has eight to fifty rushing. He
Speaker 1: has one thousand and fifty six total yards. I think
Speaker 1: second place is two hundred behind him. He has fourteen
Speaker 1: touchdowns de Monsey fourteen and I think se second place
Speaker 1: has nine. So I just and the team's been dominant offensively.
Speaker 1: So if there was ever going to be another running
Speaker 1: back to win the award, Jonathan Taylor is checking a
Speaker 1: lot of those boxes and he's gonna get some, you know.
Speaker 2: And as far as that wise, with the quarterbacks going
Speaker 2: around that the numbers are relatively low this year, well, the.
Speaker 1: Passer ratings are insanely high.
Speaker 2: Okay, the yardage number touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Like yet nobody's on pace for more than forty five
Speaker 1: hundred yards and nobody's on pace for forty touchdowns. As
Speaker 1: far as passing, I Mahomes is on pace for more
Speaker 1: than forty total. But yeah, nobody but the well, it's
Speaker 1: crazy about the passer rating numbers are there are eleven
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks with a passer rating north of one hundred.
Speaker 1: Right now, there's five with a passer rating north of
Speaker 1: one ten. So the passer the efficiency numbers are crazy.
Speaker 1: The volume numbers have not been. All right, let's go
Speaker 1: to the quick hitters. The other games very quickly, and
Speaker 1: what was kind of a bad Sunday slate and started
Speaker 1: with a bad Thursday game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have the Chargers defeating the Vikings thirty
Speaker 2: seven to ten.
Speaker 1: Great game by the Chargers. Vikings. Now begrudgingly go to
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy after putting Carson wentz out there with a
Speaker 1: totally wrecked left off.
Speaker 2: I felt so bad for him, dude, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was that was rough, and it might be it
Speaker 1: might be the end of vote. That might have been
Speaker 1: his last game ever too.
Speaker 2: That'd be really unfortunate. I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 2: To be honest, how old is Carson?
Speaker 1: But I mean having season ending surgery and I just
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know where he'll be next year.
Speaker 1: But the Chargers got a huge win for them.
Speaker 2: Next, Dolphins defeat the Falcons thirty four to ten.
Speaker 1: So I got this game as wrong as you possibly could.
Speaker 1: Kirk causes not good, Tua saves Mike McDaniel's job, you know,
Speaker 1: at least for a week, and the Dolphins look good
Speaker 1: for the first time all year.
Speaker 2: Next, uh yeah, Jets defeat the Bengals thirty nine at
Speaker 2: thirty eight.
Speaker 1: So I watched football at Danny's on Sunday, and the
Speaker 1: way we had it set up, we had a giant
Speaker 1: TV with a quad box red zone on another TV,
Speaker 1: and then there was a third TV that we had
Speaker 1: to pick one of the local games. So obviously we
Speaker 1: picked Giant Seagulls and as it turned out, yeah, wrong game.
Speaker 1: Close game of the whole day was Jets Bengals, and
Speaker 1: we did you know it was the game we probably
Speaker 1: watched the least of That's a brutal loss for the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Up fourteen on the Jets. Late. Good for Justin Fields,
Speaker 1: by the way, after the week he had and shout
Speaker 1: out to Aaron Glenn down fourteen, scored a touchdown for
Speaker 1: two and got it, which is what what allowed them
Speaker 1: then to just kick an extra point to take the lead.
Speaker 1: A lot of coaches don't do that. It's unequivocally the
Speaker 1: right call. Shout at him for getting it right.
Speaker 2: Next, Bells Bills defeat Panthers forty to nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I shame on me for not betting the Bills
Speaker 1: coming out of a bye when they needed it. And
Speaker 1: this was not a Josh Allen game. This was a
Speaker 1: James Cook game. Yeah, and shout out to James Cook
Speaker 1: for being dominant Panthers. Really that you know at home.
Speaker 1: The Panthers have been tough. They were brutal in that game.
Speaker 2: I think they need a Brice. Texans defeat the Niners
Speaker 2: twenty six to fifteen.
Speaker 1: Great win for the Texans. CJ's best game of the year. Uh,
Speaker 1: and the Niners, you just and again I got it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the you worry about No, I didn't pick this.
Speaker 1: I didn't get this one wrong. I stayed away from
Speaker 1: this one. The Niners defensive end injuries caught up to
Speaker 1: him a bit. Next.
Speaker 2: Uh, Patriots defeat the Brown thirty two to twelve or
Speaker 2: thirty two to thirteen.
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, no, you're fine. Two takeaways here? Three Actually,
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett was unbelievable. Drake may Is playing like an MVP.
Speaker 1: And Dylan Gabriel is one of the worst starting quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in recent NFL history.
Speaker 2: And that's great.
Speaker 1: The safety was that that might have been the worst
Speaker 1: safety with respect to Danie Rolofski, that might have been
Speaker 1: the worst safety in NFL history. And I don't know
Speaker 1: how the Browns will consider Shudor.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, how many more games does
Speaker 2: Gabriel have? Like two bad ones?
Speaker 1: It should be zero. I'd go to shodoor. Now you
Speaker 1: have a bye week. The oddly that division is so
Speaker 1: bad you can't consider yourself out of it with two wins.
Speaker 1: The Raven John conser themselves out of it with two wins.
Speaker 2: Next, Buccaneers defeat the Saints twenty three to three.
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield might have had two touchdowns unfairly taken away
Speaker 1: from him. Baker for the second straight game, didn't play
Speaker 1: that well. It didn't matter that, would you know? That
Speaker 1: was an important win for the Bucks to stabilize themselves,
Speaker 1: and it was nice for them to get a win
Speaker 1: without Baker playing well. Brattler's probably done as well, and
Speaker 1: it's Tyler shuck time there.
Speaker 2: And last one, Colts defeat the Titans thirty eight to fourteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Titans are a mess even by give
Speaker 1: the rookie grace scale. I'd be a little nervous about
Speaker 1: cam Ward and Jonathan Taylor was simply unreal in that game,
Speaker 1: simply unreal. The Colts just anihilate, annihilate bad team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna like they've got the Colts. We're gonna find
Speaker 1: out a lot about the Colts here over the second
Speaker 1: half of the year. But they really only they only
Speaker 1: play one great team all year left at the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: But they at least play solid teams the rest.
Speaker 2: That's gonna make that MVP race a lot more clear
Speaker 2: on Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely and I but right now that game's buried at
Speaker 1: one o'clock on CBS, and so I wonder I wonder
Speaker 1: if that I wonder if that game could get flexed.
Speaker 1: That Sunday night game is Rams Bucks. I wonder if
Speaker 1: they'll make it. Chiefs Colts. All right, thank you to
Speaker 1: Blue Duck, Thank you to Volume, Thank you as always
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Speaker 1: and of course are great friends at Zen. I'm going
Speaker 1: on with Colin in about an hour see on First
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