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Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Dray with Nick Wright, Episode three eighty four.

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Speaker 1: This episode of What Ray and Nick Right has brought

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Speaker 1: real quick, before we insame night last night that went

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Speaker 1: way too long on the East Coast. It was two

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Speaker 1: thirty in the morning out here, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna make it. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, And I will admit I missed the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the seventeenth, bottom of the seventeenth, I call sleep.

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Speaker 1: I woke up and saw the top of the eighteenth

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Speaker 1: and the Freddie Freeman walk off. Before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: before we get to the Chiefs being the chiefs, a

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Speaker 1: quick little fun story demand, how are you goop, Pops?

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well? So you know this the audience doesn't

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Speaker 1: Thursday Interesting day because this past Thursday, the NBA gambling

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Speaker 1: scandal breaks, the Chauncey Phillips poke scandal breaks, And that

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Speaker 1: night I was already scheduled to be at charity poker tournament,

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Speaker 1: and I actually while I was there, got some legit

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Speaker 1: intel because I may or may not have been able

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Speaker 1: to talk to some people who might have played in

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Speaker 1: either some of those games years back, or certainly when

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Speaker 1: they read the indictment, they're like, oh, that's odd. I

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Speaker 1: sure know that dealer. And so there was some real

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Speaker 1: you know, I guess I could write it off on

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Speaker 1: my taxes. It was a business expense I was investigating. However,

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Speaker 1: here's the reason I bring it up. Hank Azaria, the

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Speaker 1: Great Hank Azaria, awesome comic, voice of so many of

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Speaker 1: the great Simpsons characters, great actor. He has two charity

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Speaker 1: poker tournaments a year. Why is a City Field, partnering

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Speaker 1: with the Mets, and the other is at Costa Chippriani

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Speaker 1: partnering with the Dream School in Harlem. I go to

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Speaker 1: both of them. Last year, the Mets won at City Field,

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Speaker 1: about one hundred and twenty people in the tournament. I

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Speaker 1: won it. And that's how the we won that trip

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Speaker 1: to Baha Mar in that crazy suite your mom and

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Speaker 1: sisters were staying in with the pool table and the

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Speaker 1: butlers and all that nonsense. Uh, that was a I

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Speaker 1: won that by winning the charity poker tournament. So I won.

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Speaker 1: His Mets won last year, his Dream School won at

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Speaker 1: Costa Chippriani Thursday Night one hundred person charity tournament. I'm

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Speaker 1: a two time champlain. I've won both his tournaments. For

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Speaker 1: this one, I got a trophy all in for Dream

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Speaker 1: Poker turna Champion. Shout out Hanka's areas. Shout out Dream

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Speaker 1: School in Harlem. Shout out poker pro Andy Frankenberger, who

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Speaker 1: before the poker tournament gives lessons to everyone in there

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Speaker 1: and then gets dusted by me every year. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to my pals Bellin and Metting and everybody who just

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Speaker 1: go there, donate money and then watch me hoist the

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Speaker 1: trophy every year. What a dream, What an absolute literal dream.

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Speaker 1: Dream Again, the Dream School in Harlem. It's great, good money,

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Speaker 1: good food, good people, really just outstanding. And so I

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Speaker 1: I the prize I I is a sweet with twelve

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Speaker 1: tickets at a Knicks game in December. I don't have

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Speaker 1: the exact details on it, but that's the that's the

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Speaker 1: prize I picked. They were like, oh, you can. One

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Speaker 1: of the prizes is I don't know, however, many nights

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Speaker 1: at the win in Vegas, like you might like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, here's the thing that you guys might not know.

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Speaker 1: And I tell people this and they're like Oh really,

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Speaker 1: is that true. It's like it is true. You can

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Speaker 1: stay in Vegas anytime you want for free, as long

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Speaker 1: as one of those times you lose enough playing blackjack.

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Speaker 1: So I like, I, I don't need free rooms in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I put my work in on that I stay in

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Speaker 1: the Aria for free for life, and so so I

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Speaker 1: took the knixt tickets, but I won the tournament, very

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Speaker 1: happy about it. So and maybe got some real intel

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Speaker 1: or some insight on the scandals in the NBA. We're

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Speaker 1: not going to get into that today because I have

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Speaker 1: to vet some of the anecdotal stories I was told.

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Speaker 1: But I I think more names potentially could be coming out.

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Speaker 1: And I think people that you wouldn't expect to be

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Speaker 1: and so the you know, we will table that for now,

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Speaker 1: but it's there. I would like to get to straight

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Speaker 1: the Voicemail, brought to you by Boost Mobile before we

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Speaker 1: get to the Chiefs. And this straight the voicemail is

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Speaker 1: going to be a long one because we're going to

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Speaker 1: discuss last night's baseball game but lucan an't out with injuries,

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Speaker 1: best scorers in the league. Camp Scatibo Scataboo had a

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Speaker 1: really scary, awful injury. Glad he had successful surgery, and

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Speaker 1: shout out to Big Dom sitting sincerely from the Eagles

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Speaker 1: for bringing him cheese steaks and meeting him in the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Big Dom actually does seem like a really good dude.

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Speaker 1: A little I know, I poketonically, yeah, but he does

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest baseball games ever.

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Speaker 2: Played, apparently, and that.

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Speaker 1: That's not hyperbole. And here's the thing. Sometimes games are

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Speaker 1: have been one of the best World Series games of

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Speaker 1: the last twenty five years. The Otani just being a

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Speaker 1: fire breathing dragon, combined with Vlattie's scoring from first, the

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Speaker 1: ump clearly misses ball four, and uh so everybody's going

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Speaker 1: to the I think was Bashett is going to first base,

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Speaker 1: It was just an un It was unbelievable theater through

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Speaker 1: nine innings. Then there was another nine innings of scoreless baseball,

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Speaker 1: including Clayton Kershaw being dusted off. Hey, no big deal, Clayton,

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Speaker 1: but it's just bases loaded, two outs, extra innings. World

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Speaker 1: did all, culminating in Freddie Freeman after hitting a walk

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Speaker 1: walk off eighteenth inning leadoff shot to put the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: in great position going into tonight's game when Otani is

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Speaker 1: the first player in World Series history to reach base

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Speaker 1: Freeman and Blue Jay's really gonna be kicking themselves, man,

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Speaker 1: Otani in was it the seventh of the eighth when

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Speaker 1: Now then after that four straight intentional walks and then

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Speaker 1: be one you want back. And what you guys can

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Speaker 1: tell me on hard rock bet what the Dodgers are

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Speaker 1: Brown minus two hundred, uh is what I see, and

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Speaker 1: after playing that game. Justin insane set up and one

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Speaker 1: of the coolest baseball games anybody's ever seen. I know

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Speaker 1: we had an eighteen inning World S game a few

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Speaker 1: it was just insanely late. My god, that was a It

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Speaker 2: So you called last night's win against the Commanders for

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Speaker 2: your Chiefs a must win, and you felt like they

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Speaker 2: win by a lot. They did win by a lot.

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Speaker 2: It was a close game there for a minute, looked like.

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Speaker 2: So so what was your biggest takeaway from yesterday's game?

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Speaker 1: Hold on, I have a question for you.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 1: Because I think in general you root for you know,

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Speaker 1: rooting for the Commanders. Well, just taken down a peg

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Speaker 1: a bit. I can just tell it the way you

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Speaker 2: It was? I mean, I'm never rooting for them to lose,

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Speaker 2: but you know, certain teams like the Commanders, I understand,

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Speaker 2: they lose a game like this? I do. I'm never

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Speaker 2: but but yeah, sometimes I find it a little funny

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Speaker 2: when teams hang around with them and stuff and it

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Speaker 1: But okay, so listen, this game's here are my snap

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Speaker 1: takeaways from it. Okay, So, Patrick, for just the second

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Speaker 1: time all year, made a costly mistake. The pick that

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Speaker 1: the year. Two of what the Jags pick and the

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Speaker 1: Latimore pick were, you know, bad throws and or bad decisions.

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Speaker 1: And then all later in the first quarter, for the

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Speaker 1: second time all year, Patrick made a great throat to

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Speaker 1: the Commanders were able to hang around. Luckily, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: of that, it flatly did not matter. They had a

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Speaker 1: drive in Demondsey. They had a drive in this game

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Speaker 1: penalties on it to where they had to recoup those yards.

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Speaker 1: And as I have been screaming from the mountaintops for

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Speaker 1: the better part of two years, all Patrick Mahomes' needs

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Speaker 1: once again. And that's what's happened last night. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Where do you think Rashi Rice ranks amongst like top

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Speaker 1: As far as trading off players, I mean, if I

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Before we get to the game, let's talk

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Speaker 2: about Lebar Jackson and how it seems that Baltimore amount

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Speaker 2: of lied on their injury report. You know, we've got

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Speaker 2: so it's a sensitive time. But you think that everybody's

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Speaker 2: missing the real story and this debacle? What what was? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So listen, I don't I understand why of all the

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Speaker 1: weeks to be like, oh, our bad our quarterback that

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Speaker 1: we said was a full participant was actually limited and

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Speaker 1: he didn't take any reps with the ones. He was

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Speaker 1: actually out with the scout team, and that everybody thinks

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Speaker 1: he's playing is not playing. Why this was the worst

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Speaker 1: week imaginable to make that mistake. From a conspiratorial perspective,

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Speaker 1: I understand that, but I do not think that's the story.

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Speaker 1: I think that's secondary to the story. And the story

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Speaker 1: is I believe the Ravens lied on the injury report

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Speaker 1: not to get a competitive advantage, but they lied on

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Speaker 1: the injury report as a way to pressure Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: into play. And this demands follows a pattern. And I

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Speaker 1: am going to lay it all out for you with

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh's own words in twin And keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: Lamar has no agent. Lamar is self represented. There's mom

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Speaker 1: does it. And the reason I say that is because

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Speaker 1: whenever you hear reports about Lamar's status, it only can

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Speaker 1: come from the team. He doesn't have an agent feeding

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Speaker 1: rap reporter schefter stuff and so and by the way,

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Speaker 1: can we please get just a sidebark? Can we please

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Speaker 1: get real news at some point? Again, I mean we

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz evidently has been at a broken entire left

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Speaker 1: side of his body for three weeks, not reported anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs. It suffered a concussion at home that has

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Speaker 1: now put him on the IR We have no info

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Speaker 1: about it. Lamar Jackson, Nobody had a clue he might

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Speaker 1: actually miss time and didn't really practice until Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: And yet in place of that, instead of getting that

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Speaker 1: real info, what we get is the same five people

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Speaker 1: racing to publish the exact same information seconds ahead of

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Speaker 1: each other about extensions and undrafted free agents signing with

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Speaker 1: practice squads, with agents cited and agencies credited. It's just gross.

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Speaker 1: And you also, I like, you saw it again yesterday

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Speaker 1: with with who is it that? Oh uh, what's his name?

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Speaker 1: The great Sir Tan, Sir Tan, Sir Tan got hurt

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Speaker 1: and Jordan Schultz, to his credit, had it first, and

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Speaker 1: it's like, hey, this is multi week, four to six weeks,

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Speaker 1: maybe IR is a question. And then we get this

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Speaker 1: and this might seem unfair, but from one of the

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Speaker 1: you know, biggest insiders, patxer Tan, the ranking defensive player

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Speaker 1: the year, suffered a peckin strain in the win over

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He's considered weak to weak and could land

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Speaker 1: on IR. But solid news. What that's not solid again,

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Speaker 1: that's not a positive news story. It sucks. It's football.

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Speaker 1: There's injuries, but everything doesn't have to be framed as

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Speaker 1: avoiding catastrophe better than expected, the team is relieved. If

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Speaker 1: everything is better than expected, then nothing is better than expected.

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Speaker 1: But I digress to go to the Harball Ravens thing,

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Speaker 1: a Harball Lamar Thing. Twenty twenty one. Lamar hurts his

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Speaker 1: ankle Week fourteen, John Harbaugh says about him playing Week

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Speaker 1: fifteen again, there were games week fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen,

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Speaker 1: about him playing week fe I'd say he has a chance.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things. It's an ankle spring. If

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Speaker 1: he starts feeling good and everything is all right, we'll

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Speaker 1: check him out, probably pregame. So Harbaugh's saying he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a true game time decision. He's in all the

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Speaker 1: preparations and all of that. We'll see where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Lamar did not play again that season, and then after

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Speaker 1: the year, John Harbaugh says, quote, Lamar felt like he

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Speaker 1: was going to be back. The first week, he thought

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Speaker 1: he had a chance. The second week he assured me,

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Speaker 1: he said, I'll be back. He missed four straight weeks.

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Speaker 1: Then next year, Lamar gets hurt in Week thirteen during

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Speaker 1: the game there are five games left plus the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh says, it's not a season ending type of knee.

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Speaker 1: Will get more tests tomorrow and let you know how

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Speaker 1: long it's going to be. We'll see if he can

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Speaker 1: go back. If he can go back this week for

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Speaker 1: week fourteen, If not, he'll be some time after that. Shortly,

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Speaker 1: Lamar missed the rest of the regular season, missed five

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Speaker 1: straight games. The Ravens schefter then reports, because Ravens made

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Speaker 1: the playoffs anyway, that Lamar is expected to play in

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Speaker 1: the playoff game according to sources. Again, there are no

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Speaker 1: Lamar sources other than the Ravens. Lamar then misses the

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Speaker 1: playoff game. And then if you remember, tweets out about

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Speaker 1: how it's a grade to almost a grade three PCL

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Speaker 1: strain and a lot of us, my self included, speculated

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Speaker 1: i'd do with Remember he didn't have a contract that

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Speaker 1: p protecting himself because of the contract, which is totally reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Then there's the hamstring injury this year. After the Rams

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Speaker 1: game sixteen days ago, John Harball was asked about Lamar

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Speaker 1: about his optimism surrounding the team going into the by

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Speaker 1: and he said, quote, our quarterback is going to be back.

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Speaker 1: That's probably a big one. And then Friday after practice

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh said full practice today for Lamar, so that was good.

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Speaker 1: There is only one way to read those sequence of events.

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Speaker 1: That sequence of events. Lamar and the Ravens are consistently

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Speaker 1: not on the same page about Lamar's injury timelines, and

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Speaker 1: I believe the Ravens listed him as a full participant

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Speaker 1: and talked about him as if it was a certainty

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Speaker 1: that he was going to play on Sunday as a

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Speaker 1: way to pressure him into playing, and then Saturday morning

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Speaker 1: Lamar shut it all down. I'm not saying who's right

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Speaker 1: and who's wrong in this. It's certainly in play. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens are just far too optimistic, and it's in play

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Speaker 1: that Lamar is the type of player who if he

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Speaker 1: just doesn't feel close to one hundred percent, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable going out there, So be it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: judging any of that. I am saying failing to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: that that is the clear cut inarguable history year is

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Speaker 1: failing to just read the transcripts. And it is because

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Speaker 1: of that demanse that I while I think Lamar is

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Speaker 1: going to play Thursday night, I am not certain of it.

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Speaker 1: And even though Harbaugh said yesterday it's full practice or

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Speaker 1: expecting him to play. I don't think you.

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Speaker 2: Can understand that. There's like you're saying, Lamar doesn't have

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Speaker 2: an agent, but Lamar has somebody that's looking at his

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Speaker 2: body when he goes to get checked on on this

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Speaker 2: type of stuff. Why are they not just talking into

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. I'm kind of confused on why there's not

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Speaker 2: just a doctor or somebody telling him, oh, he's out

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Speaker 2: for X amount of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Because what's pretty clear is to me because yeah, he

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Speaker 1: has a doctor. It's the Ravens doctor, and Todd Munkin

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Speaker 1: alluded to this a week ago about whether or not

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Speaker 1: Lamar had been cleared. What is pretty clear, given Harbaugh's

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Speaker 1: comments is throughout all of these injuries, and again maybe

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Speaker 1: the Ravens team doctor is doing a bad job, but

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Speaker 1: he has been cleared.

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Speaker 2: To play each time, and he is saying.

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Speaker 1: I can't, right, and that I think is frustrating has

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Speaker 1: frustrated the Ravens over the years because it the way

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Speaker 1: it works is this, you cannot play without the doctor

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Speaker 1: clearing you. But once the doctor clears you, you then

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Speaker 1: have to be comfortable to play, obviously, right, and I

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Speaker 1: am reading this as a very obvious path of the

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Speaker 1: doctor clearing him and him saying, no, I'm not comfortable

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Speaker 1: playing again. Maybe it's the Ravens team doctor issue. I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm really not banging on Lamar on this. I

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Speaker 1: am saying that there is a clear disconnect between coach,

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Speaker 1: medical staff, and player. Now, with all that said, Demonse,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are now the favorite to win the division

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Speaker 1: and the Snoop Huntley saved their season saw some performance.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at their schedule coming up, and

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Speaker 1: you look at the Bengals blowing a game, just blowing

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Speaker 1: against the Jets and the Steelers getting thoroughly outplayed by

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Speaker 1: the Packers, you fully expect, Demonse, the Ravens to win

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Speaker 1: their next four, correct.

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Speaker 2: I mean they could win the rest of the games exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean sure they could win any of those individual games,

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Speaker 1: but you would be stunned if they lose any of

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Speaker 1: the next four. At Miami Thursday night at the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: who are a mess, at the Browns, who have the

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Speaker 1: worst offense in football, home for the Jets. So they

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Speaker 1: should be six and five going into the meat of

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Speaker 1: going into the stretch run, where in those final six

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Speaker 1: weeks they have two games against the Bengals two games

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Speaker 1: against the Steelers, a Packers game, and a Patriot game,

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Speaker 1: and throw that schedule back up. They will be favored

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Speaker 1: in every game they play until week seventeen. They will

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Speaker 1: be favored obviously in all their home games, and they

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Speaker 1: will be road favorites against Tua, JJ McCarthy, whoever the

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Speaker 1: Browns quarterback is at that point, and Jake Joe Flackham,

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Speaker 1: and then they'll be So they've got a shot. Now

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Speaker 1: Here is a real scenario we've got on our hands,

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Speaker 1: which would be hilarious. Let's say the Patriots have some

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Speaker 1: gaudy record, which they cook. They're six and two already.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that Patriots go twelve and five. I think

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Speaker 1: it's totally reasonable, given I think the Patriots play one

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Speaker 1: game the rest of the way against AFC teams currently

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Speaker 1: in the playoff picture. Okay, they it's their second Bills game.

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Speaker 1: So let's say they go twelve and five and win

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Speaker 1: the AFC East, and the Bills also go twelve and five. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but the Patriots win the AFC East this is a tiebreaker,

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens go eight and nine, but that's good

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Speaker 1: enough to win the AFC North. They split with Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: they split with Pittsburgh, they lose the Packer game, and

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Speaker 1: what's their record right now? Two and five? Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. They go eight and nine, but it's

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Speaker 1: enough to win the AFC North, the Ravens, the eight

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Speaker 1: and nine Ravens hosting in the playoffs, the twelve and

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Speaker 1: five Buffalo Bills, or the twelve and five New England Patriots,

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Speaker 1: or the twelve and five Denver Bronco or if I'm

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Speaker 1: wrong about the Chiefs, the twelve and five, like the rate,

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Speaker 1: the worst division winner, no matter the record, will host

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Speaker 1: the best wild card, and the best wild card in

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Speaker 1: the AFC this year is gonna have a great record.

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Speaker 1: Be it the Pats, be it the Bills, be it

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, be it the Chargers, be it the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: One of those teams is gonna win eleven, maybe twelve

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Speaker 1: games and have to go to an eight or nine

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Speaker 1: win Baltimore or Cincinnati or Pittsburgh. And it's just what's

642
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Speaker 1: gonna happen in so hard? All right? Flip side is

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Speaker 1: the Bears game?

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Speaker 2: The Bears. So Caleb made some more errors. That Ravens

645
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: defense that everybody's been talking trash about they looked pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Well he has people talking trash or they were just watching.

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Speaker 2: They've been bad, They've they've been pretty bad. But yeah,

648
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Speaker 2: how many more errors or how long will you give

649
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Speaker 2: Caleb before you give up on him?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to give up on him anytime soon.

651
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Speaker 1: But he wasn't good. I mean, I'm not gonna act

652
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Speaker 1: like he was good. And that was a huge missed

653
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Speaker 1: opportunity for them, for him and for them, And you'd

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Speaker 1: like to give him a pass, be like, oh, they

655
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Speaker 1: were on a four game winning streak, they were bound

656
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Speaker 1: to lose, but you can't losing that game in that

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Speaker 1: fashion to Tyler Huntley and Caleb playing that mediocre is

658
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Speaker 1: a huge disappointment. Now, I still think, as I was

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Speaker 1: saying when I was doing the playoff picture before, they're

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Speaker 1: super live. Right now, they're in eighth place, and I

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Speaker 1: think San Francisco is going to be trending in the

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Speaker 1: wrong direction. And their next two demanse. Their next three,

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Speaker 1: I should say, are Bengals, Giants, Vikings. So the Bears

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Speaker 1: should be seven and three. They should be seven and

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Speaker 1: three going in to a really tough stretch of games,

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Speaker 1: and so but Caleb's gotta play better. There's no way

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Speaker 1: around it. Caleb Flaty has to play better. Uh, And

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Speaker 1: I think at this point, I think everybody can acknowledge

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Speaker 1: and accept that.

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Chicago's more committed to Caleb or

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson?

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Speaker 1: He's fully committed to both. I mean, the thing is this,

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Speaker 1: Ben took the job because of Caleb, so the he

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Speaker 1: wants to make this work. But Caleb's gotta play better.

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Speaker 1: There's no there's no sugar coating that. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: go to Eagles shines all.

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Speaker 2: Right, for the first time all year. Philly looked good

678
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Speaker 2: on all angles, are all fronts. Saquan was doing his thing,

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Speaker 2: Jalen was doing his thing getting it to his guys.

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Speaker 2: But this all came from a game without AJ Brown?

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Speaker 2: Is there some worry there?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna trade AJ Brown, but this

683
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Speaker 1: game I think certainly made it slightly more likely. And listen,

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Speaker 1: credit to the Eagles. They looked awesome and Saquon finally

685
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Speaker 1: looked like Saquon. Now we'll see. Was that a blip

686
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Speaker 1: for this what's gonna be a down down season for him?

687
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Speaker 1: Or was that the turning point of the season and

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00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: they get the buy now, and they feel like we

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Speaker 1: haven't even played that well. We're six and two, where

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Speaker 1: a game out of first place in the conference going

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Speaker 1: into the bye. We've played a brutal schedule. Jalen has

692
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Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns total, fifteen passing touchdowns in one interception. Like

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Speaker 1: they just don't throw for a lot of yards, but

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Speaker 1: they're super efficient, so they feel good about all that do.

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Speaker 1: I think, though it's on the board demons that Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: or Buffalo or New England make Philly an offer for

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown that they really have to consider. I do

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Speaker 1: because I do think this is likely AJ's last year

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Speaker 1: with the team. I just think it's too much and

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00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: he's a great player, but the fact that he wasn't

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Speaker 1: satisfied seemingly after last week's game, and then this week

702
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Speaker 1: he missed and the offense looked amazing satisfied after the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, Yeah right, And so I do think that

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Speaker 1: that is the biggest name by far trade deadline's a

705
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Speaker 1: week from today. That's the biggest name by far to

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Speaker 1: watch is AJ Brown, and I I don't think that

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Speaker 1: they will move off of him, But I don't think

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Speaker 1: it is ridiculous to discuss all right, I know that

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Speaker 1: you got it.

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Speaker 2: There's no more more toush push controversy. Do you see

711
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: Philadelphia abusing this play before it gets exonerated or obliterated.

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Speaker 2: It's the shower.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think what happened in this game. If

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Speaker 1: I were a Giants fan, I'd have been beside myself.

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00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that was outrageous. And here's the thing, and

716
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: here's what's frustrating for opponents. It feels like it's a

717
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: one way street on forward progress on the tush push

718
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: because what you often see is they stop the initial

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00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: push and then there's like a beat of progress being stopped. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then Jalen is not down because he's kind of

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Speaker 1: surfing on top of Linemen gets pushed further. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: fine if that's what we're gonna do, But then that

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Speaker 1: is a lie. Unless if it's at the goal line,

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Speaker 1: then so be it, because the moment you crossed the

725
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: goal line, the play's debt. But that wasn't it the

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00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: goal line, And that was as clear of a fumble

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Speaker 1: as you'll ever see. And for the rest to say

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00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: we whistled it dead, and then for us to hear

729
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: the audio and be like, no, you didn't that the

730
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: ball came out well before there was any whistle.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I just feel like we shouldn't be giving

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Speaker 2: any benefits to the Like it's composite.

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Speaker 1: You would think it would go that way. Like we

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Speaker 1: hate this play. We almost ban this play, so you

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Speaker 1: better not line up in the neutral zone false start fumble.

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Speaker 1: But instead they get that it's the other way. We

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Speaker 1: hate the play and we let you do things on

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Speaker 1: it you can't do it any other play. So I

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Speaker 1: I just I keep thinking we're gonna be at a

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00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: tipping point in it, and Brady, it keeps happening during

741
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: these huge Brady Fox games where Brady is pointing out

742
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: the thing's wrong with it, and nothing change. So I

743
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: really don't know. All right, hold on, I gotta do

744
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: something I've never done for the pot. I have to

745
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: do a quick wardrobe change. So let me take off

746
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: this sweatshirt. If you guys have been watching Chad Powers,

747
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: you know what this shirt represents. Now. Series recap for

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Speaker 1: Chad Powers with streams on Hulu and Hulu on Disney

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Speaker 1: Plus for Bundle subscribers. Warning for folks out there, for

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Speaker 1: if any of you are big enough dopes to not

751
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: have watched Chad Powers yet. Spoilers are coming, So you

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00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: know fast. If you're listening live on YouTube and I've

753
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: watched Chad Powers yet, come back in about two minutes.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching this or listening to this, you know,

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00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: once it's already been posted, just pass forward for about

756
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, two minutes because there are spoilers to come.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna be totally candid about my Chad

758
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: Powers experience. When they first announce that this was going

759
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: to be a show, I had to say I didn't

760
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: quite get it because I was like, Okay, this is

761
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: like a character Eli Manning created or the Mannings created,

762
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Speaker 1: and I know the people at Omaha. One of the

763
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: former what you know, one of my former producers at

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Speaker 1: First Things First is a big wig over at Omaha.

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Speaker 1: The guy who hired me at Fox is the head

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Speaker 1: of Omaha. So I wanted to give him the benefit

767
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: of it's the production company they made it. I want

768
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Speaker 1: to give the benefit of that out. But I was like,

769
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Speaker 1: how is this fake character that the Mannings created for

770
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: Skips going to turn into a show? And then I

771
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: watched it as part of this sponsorship with our friends

772
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: at Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus. Uh, and I

773
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: was like, they made a hell of a show. So

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00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: the context, again, I don't want to give it all away,

775
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: but here's the context. Star Quarterback who And it was

776
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: actually ended up being very kind of relevant to things

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00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: that we see in current football. Oddly, star quarterback fumbles

778
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: the National Championship away and in really embarrassing fashion, not

779
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: like oh, great play by the other team, Like no,

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: it's dropping the ball before the goal line type of fumble,

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00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: and then flips out and there's a tough incident with

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00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: a Make a Wish kid's dad, and it's all on

783
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: TV and now the guy's you know, smash cut to

784
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: almost a decade later, and the guy's life's a mess.

785
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: He was going to be a star NFL quarterback instead,

786
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Speaker 1: this one mistake has kind of ruined his life. And

787
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: then and this is where the Hollywood hijinks comes in.

788
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: He decides kind of what is if you? Kind of

789
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: an allusion to necessary roughness, the Great Eighties movie with

790
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: Kathy Ireland and Sinbad and others, and a little bit

791
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: of Lady Bugs, the Rodney Dangerfield movie. They're like, hey,

792
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: what if I create a whole new persona Chad powers

793
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Speaker 1: and I go back to college and try to basically

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Speaker 1: remake what my career could have been. So that's the

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Speaker 1: context of the show. And not surprisingly, throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of the season, what you see is again spoilers, this

797
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: guy crushes, but there's a little bit of a love

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Speaker 1: triangle involved. There might be some cheating on spouses involving

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Speaker 1: the coach, his family. There's there's drama. It's a comedy,

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: but there's drama, all set on the backdrop of this

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00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: guy trying to keep his identity hidden while he leads

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00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: his fictitious college team to a national championship. So that

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: is and I thought this was gonna be a one

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00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: season arc, but it's not. And again this is the

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Speaker 1: in the end of the spoilers. Season one ends on

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Speaker 1: the ultimate cliffhanger as far as the love triangle, the

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Speaker 1: health of one of the main characters, the championship football game,

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00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: all of it is right there on the brink snap

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Speaker 1: season over, and they just leave you waiting for season two.

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Speaker 1: So that is that. That's your quick recap. And Glenn Powell,

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Speaker 1: who's a legitimate superstar in Hollywood obviously is the main character.

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Speaker 1: And he's great and he kind of he has to play.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw the Glenn Powell

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00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: movie got starn it, I should have. He plays an

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Speaker 1: assassin in a movie where he plays a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different characters that are all the same guy. He's the

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Speaker 1: same guy playing a bunch of different characters. He has

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Speaker 1: to He does something similar here where he plays himself

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Speaker 1: with the not himself, not Glen Powell but whatever, the

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Speaker 1: jerk quarterback that blew it all, and the nerd. Chad

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Speaker 1: Powers is a double life. He's playing both characters. He's

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Speaker 1: really good at this, playing two different characters type of thing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he did in the movies, done in this. So that

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Speaker 1: is our quick Chad Powers season one recap. Again, don't

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Speaker 1: just listen to my recap, go check it out to

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Speaker 1: get ready for season two. Chad Powers Season one streaming

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Speaker 1: on Hulu and on Hulu Plus for Disney Bundle subscribers.

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Speaker 1: All right, demons, let's get to Packers Steelers while I

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Speaker 1: put my my I don't know if this is windbreaker

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Speaker 1: jacket whatever it is back on, but go ahead.

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Speaker 2: So we thought that the Packer Steelers game was gonna

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Speaker 2: be a Rogers revenge game, but This ended up being

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Speaker 2: a good joy love game, played one of his best

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Speaker 2: games of his career. So far. Green Bay remains the

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Speaker 2: number one seed. Pittsburgh standing is in more jeopardy. Who

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Speaker 2: who do you think this is bigger on? Do you

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Speaker 2: think this is more about Green Bay or is this

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Speaker 2: more about Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 1: Listen, I think it's huge for both. Pittsburgh could be

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Speaker 1: in real trouble and Fair's fair. It's you know, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers held up his end to this Pittsburgh deal. The

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Speaker 1: defense has no Rogers has not own that chat. The

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Speaker 1: the Glenn Powell movie was hit Man, I called Assassin,

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Speaker 1: same thing, but uh Rogers. Rogers is just never gonna

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Speaker 1: throw for a bunch of yards again. It's just not

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Speaker 1: in his game. But he's still efficient, he's still accurate,

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Speaker 1: he's still gonna make some wow plays. The defense has

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Speaker 1: been dreadful, low the Jets to score thirty plus, allowed

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacko and the Bengals score thirty plus, and just

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Speaker 1: allowed the Packers score thirty plus and now and Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: when you look at their schedule, Deman's this is one

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Speaker 1: of the This is why the Ravens are the favorites now.

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01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: Colts Chargers, and then in the final six weeks Buffalo,

854
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: Baltimore twice Detroit. They could be in real trouble. Green Bay.

855
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I do think that was the

856
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: best game of Jordan Love's regular season career. I thought

857
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: he was fantastic. And when Love plays even close to

858
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: that level, they're the best team in the NFC. And

859
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: because the defense is great, I know, the defense had

860
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, a brief moment where it's like, oh, what's

861
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: going on? The defense is great, and when Love is

862
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: dealing like that, they're as good as any team. And

863
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: that I think they're the best team in that conference.

864
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: And so I think Pittsburgh could be in real trouble.

865
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: And I think that the Packers at this moment. Let

866
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: me put it like this, And that's why I called

867
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: Jordan Love the most interesting person in the NFL this year.

868
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: If you believe in Jordan Love, you should believe the

869
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: Packers are going to go to the super Bowl. I'm

870
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm sixty percent of the way to believing in Jordan Love,

871
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: but I'm not fully there. So that's why I don't

872
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: have them going to the super Bowl. But if he play,

873
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's played really well. His numbers this year

874
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: are unbelievable. I don't think he's played quite as well

875
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: as his numbers, but his numbers are great. All right, Demante,

876
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: Let's go to Broncos Cowboys.

877
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Broncos they went out there, they beat

878
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. We said that was gonna be a crazy matchup.

879
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: Cowboys defense obviously sucks, but you gotta start to believe

880
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: in Denver a little bit at this point.

881
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: Huh, well, this is gonna make Bronco fans so mad.

882
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: Classic one by me instantly correct, and I should have

883
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: had the producers pulled the tape of our preseason show

884
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: when I picked Denver to miss the playoffs, and I said,

885
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: come around week eight, I'm going to be getting dozens,

886
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: if not hundreds of tweets of people for the five

887
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: and three Denver Broncos saying, see how wrong you were?

888
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,479
Speaker 1: Ready to admit bo Nicks is legit. Now they're six

889
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: and two, not five and three, And uh, I'll give

890
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: you my full Broncos thoughts in a second. But when

891
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: I picked them to miss the playoffs, I anticipated that

892
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: they would get off to a hot start and then

893
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: really slow down late in the year. Now, Part of

894
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: that anticipation was I thought the two Raider games they

895
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: had late in the year were gonna be tough, and

896
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: part of that all so was I thought the Raiders

897
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: were gonna be good, which is why I said I

898
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: had Denver finishing last in the division. The Raiders are

899
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: not playing along with me on that, so I do

900
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: have to concede at this point Denver is not going

901
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: to finish last in the AFC West. I am not

902
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: ready at all to concede that they're definitely making the playoffs,

903
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 1: and I certainly don't think they're going to win the division.

904
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: What I do think is this, the way bo Nicks

905
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: has played the last five quarters makes them one of

906
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL. I just do not

907
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: at all believe that is sustainable or really who he

908
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: is now. If he keeps up even close to what

909
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: he's been the last five quarters, from the fourth quarter

910
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: of the Giants game through the entire Cowboys game, then

911
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: that team is exactly what Sean Payton thought. It was

912
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: great defense, very good offensive line, stud quarterback, you know,

913
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: all the pieces you'd want. I don't think that's legit,

914
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: and you know we'll see I am so I am

915
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: not yet ready to concede anything close that I was

916
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: wrong about Denver because I anticipated they would get off

917
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: to a good start this year. Now, did I think

918
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: they were gonna win the Eagles game. No, But and

919
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: I would have thought when I was said they'd be

920
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: five and three through eight, I thought they'd beat the

921
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: Colts and lose to the Bengals because I didn't know

922
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: Burrow was gonna be hurt, and I didn't know the

923
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: Colts were gonna be this good. Regardless though, I expected

924
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: them to beat the Jets, Giants, Cowboys. I said it

925
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: on the preview show. Now, those the Jets and Giants

926
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: games were weird and ugly, but they got the win.

927
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys game I got dead. I didn't expect

928
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: them to beat the Cowboys going into the Cowboys game,

929
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: but before the year I did going into the Cowboys

930
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: game the Cowboys, I picked the Cowboys. I bet on

931
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I got it dead wrong. The defense is awesome.

932
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: I am worried about the certain injury, and I again,

933
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: if bo Nicks turned a corner during that Giants game,

934
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: then this team is to be taken very seriously. We'll

935
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: see on that. And I think he has. While I

936
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: expect the Broncos to win Demons because I don't know

937
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: how Houston's gonna be able to move the ball against

938
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: the Broncos defense. Bo has a nice test in front

939
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: of him with the Texans defense. Yeah, that Texans s

940
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: defens is awesome.

941
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 2: I bet that's got to be an opinion changer for

942
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: you though. Like if he goes in plays well against

943
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 2: the Captions defense, yeah.

944
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know that don't matter. That'll matter. And the Cowboys,

945
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: on the other hand, they just can't beat good teams.

946
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: They score forty a game against teams below five hundred,

947
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: they score twenty five a game against teams at or

948
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: above five hundred, but they've lost or tied all those games.

949
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: And so you know, credit to the Broncos they for

950
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: totally proving me wrong in that game. As far as

951
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: proving me wrong in the season, we'll see, all right.

952
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: So you're thinking about upgrading to the all new iPhone

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962
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: let's quickly do MVP before we do the rest of

963
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: the games around the NFL.

964
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 2: We didn't get to so a few weeks ago, the

965
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 2: MVP was coming down to Mahomes with Baker at second.

966
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: Baker is now behind Jordan Love and Jared goff and

967
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: at eighth place. But a dark chorus has appeared and

968
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor and you said a while back that Jonathan

969
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: Taylor had a better case to win than Saquon had

970
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 2: last year.

971
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 1: Care to explain, Yeah, so I just think Jonathan. Listen,

972
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones isn't as good as Jalen Hurts. We know

973
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: that the Eagles the Colts don't have the defense the

974
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: Eagles did. We know that the Colts have good wide receivers.

975
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: They don't have aj Brown and Devonte Smith. And as

976
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: amazing as saque On two thousand yards were last year,

977
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: Derek Henry had like nineteen hundred, right, and Saguan didn't

978
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: have these crazy touchdown numbers Jonathan Taylor right now is

979
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: that the rushing numbers are insane. With Jonathan Taylor compared

980
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: to everyone else, he has eight hundred and fifty yards rushing.

981
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 1: Second place has seven hundred and fifty three. He has

982
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: the I'm trying to see how many like total yards

983
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 1: he is because he has eight to fifty rushing. He

984
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: has one thousand and fifty six total yards. I think

985
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: second place is two hundred behind him. He has fourteen

986
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns de Monsey fourteen and I think se second place

987
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: has nine. So I just and the team's been dominant offensively.

988
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: So if there was ever going to be another running

989
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: back to win the award, Jonathan Taylor is checking a

990
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: lot of those boxes and he's gonna get some, you know.

991
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: And as far as that wise, with the quarterbacks going

992
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 2: around that the numbers are relatively low this year, well, the.

993
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 1: Passer ratings are insanely high.

994
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: Okay, the yardage number touchdowns.

995
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: Like yet nobody's on pace for more than forty five

996
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 1: hundred yards and nobody's on pace for forty touchdowns. As

997
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: far as passing, I Mahomes is on pace for more

998
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: than forty total. But yeah, nobody but the well, it's

999
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: crazy about the passer rating numbers are there are eleven

1000
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks with a passer rating north of one hundred.

1001
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: Right now, there's five with a passer rating north of

1002
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,799
Speaker 1: one ten. So the passer the efficiency numbers are crazy.

1003
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: The volume numbers have not been. All right, let's go

1004
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: to the quick hitters. The other games very quickly, and

1005
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: what was kind of a bad Sunday slate and started

1006
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: with a bad Thursday game.

1007
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have the Chargers defeating the Vikings thirty

1008
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 2: seven to ten.

1009
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: Great game by the Chargers. Vikings. Now begrudgingly go to

1010
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy after putting Carson wentz out there with a

1011
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: totally wrecked left off.

1012
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 2: I felt so bad for him, dude, Yeah.

1013
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: That was that was rough, and it might be it

1014
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: might be the end of vote. That might have been

1015
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: his last game ever too.

1016
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 2: That'd be really unfortunate. I hope that's not the case.

1017
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 2: To be honest, how old is Carson?

1018
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: But I mean having season ending surgery and I just

1019
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know where he'll be next year.

1020
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: But the Chargers got a huge win for them.

1021
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 2: Next, Dolphins defeat the Falcons thirty four to ten.

1022
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,839
Speaker 1: So I got this game as wrong as you possibly could.

1023
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: Kirk causes not good, Tua saves Mike McDaniel's job, you know,

1024
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: at least for a week, and the Dolphins look good

1025
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: for the first time all year.

1026
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: Next, uh yeah, Jets defeat the Bengals thirty nine at

1027
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: thirty eight.

1028
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: So I watched football at Danny's on Sunday, and the

1029
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: way we had it set up, we had a giant

1030
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 1: TV with a quad box red zone on another TV,

1031
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: and then there was a third TV that we had

1032
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: to pick one of the local games. So obviously we

1033
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: picked Giant Seagulls and as it turned out, yeah, wrong game.

1034
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: Close game of the whole day was Jets Bengals, and

1035
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: we did you know it was the game we probably

1036
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,560
Speaker 1: watched the least of That's a brutal loss for the Bengals.

1037
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 1: Up fourteen on the Jets. Late. Good for Justin Fields,

1038
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: by the way, after the week he had and shout

1039
01:12:55,240 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: out to Aaron Glenn down fourteen, scored a touchdown for

1040
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: two and got it, which is what what allowed them

1041
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: then to just kick an extra point to take the lead.

1042
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: A lot of coaches don't do that. It's unequivocally the

1043
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: right call. Shout at him for getting it right.

1044
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: Next, Bells Bills defeat Panthers forty to nine.

1045
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I shame on me for not betting the Bills

1046
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 1: coming out of a bye when they needed it. And

1047
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: this was not a Josh Allen game. This was a

1048
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: James Cook game. Yeah, and shout out to James Cook

1049
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: for being dominant Panthers. Really that you know at home.

1050
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: The Panthers have been tough. They were brutal in that game.

1051
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 2: I think they need a Brice. Texans defeat the Niners

1052
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 2: twenty six to fifteen.

1053
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: Great win for the Texans. CJ's best game of the year. Uh,

1054
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 1: and the Niners, you just and again I got it.

1055
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, the you worry about No, I didn't pick this.

1056
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: I didn't get this one wrong. I stayed away from

1057
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: this one. The Niners defensive end injuries caught up to

1058
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: him a bit. Next.

1059
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: Uh, Patriots defeat the Brown thirty two to twelve or

1060
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 2: thirty two to thirteen.

1061
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, no, you're fine. Two takeaways here? Three Actually,

1062
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett was unbelievable. Drake may Is playing like an MVP.

1063
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: And Dylan Gabriel is one of the worst starting quarterbacks

1064
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: in recent NFL history.

1065
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: And that's great.

1066
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: The safety was that that might have been the worst

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Speaker 1: safety with respect to Danie Rolofski, that might have been

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Speaker 1: the worst safety in NFL history. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: how the Browns will consider Shudor.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say, how many more games does

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Speaker 2: Gabriel have? Like two bad ones?

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Speaker 1: It should be zero. I'd go to shodoor. Now you

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Speaker 1: have a bye week. The oddly that division is so

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Speaker 1: bad you can't consider yourself out of it with two wins.

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Speaker 1: The Raven John conser themselves out of it with two wins.

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Speaker 2: Next, Buccaneers defeat the Saints twenty three to three.

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Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield might have had two touchdowns unfairly taken away

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Speaker 1: from him. Baker for the second straight game, didn't play

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Speaker 1: that well. It didn't matter that, would you know? That

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Speaker 1: was an important win for the Bucks to stabilize themselves,

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Speaker 1: and it was nice for them to get a win

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Speaker 1: without Baker playing well. Brattler's probably done as well, and

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Speaker 1: it's Tyler shuck time there.

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Speaker 2: And last one, Colts defeat the Titans thirty eight to fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Titans are a mess even by give

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Speaker 1: the rookie grace scale. I'd be a little nervous about

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Speaker 1: cam Ward and Jonathan Taylor was simply unreal in that game,

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Speaker 1: simply unreal. The Colts just anihilate, annihilate bad team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna like they've got the Colts. We're gonna find

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Speaker 1: out a lot about the Colts here over the second

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Speaker 1: half of the year. But they really only they only

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01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 1: play one great team all year left at the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: But they at least play solid teams the rest.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna make that MVP race a lot more clear

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Speaker 2: on Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and I but right now that game's buried at

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Speaker 1: one o'clock on CBS, and so I wonder I wonder

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01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: if that I wonder if that game could get flexed.

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Speaker 1: That Sunday night game is Rams Bucks. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: they'll make it. Chiefs Colts. All right, thank you to

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Speaker 1: Blue Duck, Thank you to Volume, Thank you as always

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Speaker 1: a hard rock to boost to Hulu and Chad Powers

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Speaker 1: and of course are great friends at Zen. I'm going

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Speaker 1: on with Colin in about an hour see on First

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Speaker 1: Things First at three. See you guys back here Thursday morning.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Guy is listening, what track