1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: What's happening. What's happening? What was happening? There's another episode 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: against the Chronicles podcast. I got another special guest with me, 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: like another special co host, my boy AJ from the 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Connected Experience podcast. What's going on? What's going on? You 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: know what? It is? Anster mission in the house all day, 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: every day was going on. Big still oh man, you know, 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: same old stuff, man, But we got a really special 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: guest man one of the o g s in the game, 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Man from the original Penthouse Players. Click, man, my boy player, 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: hand what's up with it? Man? One day at a time, 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Maybe I cannot complain, you know what, Man, One day 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: at a time. Love. You know how we're doing. Well. 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: We got a lot of stuff to talk about, man, 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, Man, I want to go back 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: to the beginning, right mm hmm. You're from out of 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: content right now. Man, I'm not a South Central man. 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: A lot of people think that, you know, but and 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: you watch to the west side of l A. Man. 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: South Central was where I was born and raised, you know, 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure didn't know that we might 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: be bringing some news. That's where I think everybody thought 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: you some company. Man, I think that you know, because 23 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: of affiliations and associations, man, but you know it's not true. Well, 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: the first thing I want to ask you, man, is 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: because you grabbed the whole of what was with who 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: eventually became one of the best producers in hip hop. 27 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: I still think he was a day How did you 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: link how did you link up with Quick Man? How 29 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: old was he when you guys linked up? Man? He 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: had to be in his late teen teld me U. 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: I want to say maybe eighteen. I just turned nineteen. Uh, eighteen, 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: had to because it was a D eight. So anyway, Uh, 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: we had a little uh. But they used to call 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: him back in the day when you get on the 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: phone and everybody be talking. Yeah, but it was something 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: else like there on the chat line. It was called 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: party line. Yeah, party line, and you know we was 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: you know, one of my partners had a little money 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: and his brother and they came together. So it was 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: called the Penthouse party line and quick sister called inn 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: and my boy tweet chopped it up with his sisters. 42 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: Did a little brother through music to your producer And 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: you know he was a fledgement and you know, kind 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: of new to it at that time, but he still 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: had a talent that was a parent to anybody that 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: would pay attention, and uh, you know ship Basically he 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: auditioned with one of tweet beats for us man and 48 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: after a conversation between Tweet and this system and one 49 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: thing that to another man and you know, and they 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: had to go out there and get him and grab 51 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: him up and making part of the click. He was 52 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: like the missing peace, you know. So when y'all first 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: heard his music, did y'all know like, this guy is 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna be somebody? He ended up being DJ Quick, But 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: did y'all see something in him, like, hey, he gotta 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: be down with us, because we know, if anything, this 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: young man don't be something in this music, he gonna 58 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: be a force. Yeah. Absolutely. As you're pursuing the dream, 59 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: you realize that, you know, you need to write pieces 60 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: together to continue the journey. And when you're young, you 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: might not be seeing that far ahead like a lot 62 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: of cats might have, you know, seen it like that. 63 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: But you know, from the early days of hip hop 64 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: so to speak, not that early, but you know, the 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: first ten years. So it's like, you know, at that time, 66 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: it was just about making the music and and and 67 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: and coming together and and doing what we do. So 68 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: of course, yeah, definitely when we met Quick. When I 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: met with Quick and we did that little audition being 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: on me for Tweet, I knew he was somebody that 71 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: was he was the missing piece and you know what 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying or what we was trying to do because 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: we had dealt with other DJs and other situations and 74 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, uh, me and Tweet wasn't really we hadn't 75 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: been together that long at that time, but at least 76 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: about a year or two maybe at the most. But 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: we knew that that your boy Quick was what we 78 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: was looking for to make us complete. You know, somebody 79 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: that coming to the clicking and be what you know, 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: apparently the other cats that had their DJ and the 81 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: music maker part of that click, you know, Dads and 82 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: Jeff and then being and you know what I'm saying, 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: cats like that, because that's really where he was how 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: we was moving. And of course Dre, you know, Dre 85 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: was was one of the greatest influences, oh Quick, you 86 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Dre and East, you know, they 87 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: really was like the cats he wanted to be. You 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: know this time who bubbling in l A. You said, 89 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: it is early is eighty. It's a d A. So 90 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: you know n w A was doing that thing, you 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: know a little Yeah, I'm saying like we know in 92 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: w A, but like, who's some people who didn't make 93 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: it to the surface. But y'all still looked at at 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: the time like hey, this group or this person could 95 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: possibly be right behind in w A. Um Man, I 96 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: don't know if a cat even gave us type of 97 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: thing I thought. You know, we was in the circle 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: of a lot of artists though, you know, we were 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, dealing with you know, battle cat was in 100 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: the cut um. There was some cats over there, uh 101 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: around the corner double trouble um, you know, some neighborhood cats. 102 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. There was a lot of 103 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: things going on at the time, but the focus really 104 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: wasn't on what other cats was doing. It was on 105 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: when we was doing. You know I heard that man 106 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: let me ask you this him, So when did you 107 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: guys become the Penthouse players? Click? Cool, Well, that was 108 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: something I was moving with before I even got involved 109 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: with TWE, before I even got involved with Quick. Because 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, when you're younger, especially coming up in the 111 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: era we come up in. If you ain't gangbanging. You 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: You ain't doing nothing. And I wasn't gangbanging, you know 113 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I wanted to be a part 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: of something that I could you know, represent without getting 115 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: caught up in that gang time, you know, and all 116 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: honest the amount of total his story before. One of 117 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: my partners, man, his name is Mark. I wish I 118 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: could remember his last name. But you know, when I 119 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: was looking for a name for my click, trying to 120 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: think of how I wanted to move with this rap 121 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: because I was starting to wrap it, you know, I 122 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: felt like I was real good at it in that potential. 123 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: And my boy was walking down the street and I 124 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: see Penhouse Players on the back of his jacket, right, 125 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, you know, play, I'm gonna 126 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: take that. And I just added original and click and 127 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: and mashed with it, you know, and made it, made 128 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: it famous, so to speak, you know. And I wonder 129 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: where my boy at now, man, because I feel like 130 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: I owe him something. Yeah, that's how that happened, man, 131 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: That Penouse Players. I liked it, that name, you know, 132 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: and it was already kind of calling me play a 133 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: ham without even you know, knowing that that's the direction 134 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: it was going in, you know what I'm saying. So, 135 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: like one thing that just good out to me. You 136 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: was like very adamant about standing away from the gang 137 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: culture in the gang life. Was that because like you're 138 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: upbringing inside the household. What made you want to stay 139 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: away from gangs at a time where people was rushing 140 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: to be a part of the game. Uh well, I 141 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that was Russian, but what I would say 142 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: was it it had its appeal. You know, I knew 143 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: some real gangs to catch, some real crypt niggas that 144 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: you know that I admired, you know what I'm saying. 145 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: And I knew that I wasn't them, you know, I 146 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: knew that that what my nigga is doing, I'm not 147 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: doing that. But we was, you know, in the neighborhood, 148 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: you know. And like I said, whatever neighborhood you grow 149 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: up in, you affiliated with that neighborhood anywhere on some 150 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: level or another. So I just happened to be at 151 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: that time in the thirties, Harlem, and so my niggas 152 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: was Harlem crips, you know what I'm saying. Even though 153 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: when I went to school that lot and you know, 154 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: my original cats. It was main street cats, you know 155 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, nine eight and all that. But on 156 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: the West Side is where I was living at the time. 157 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: So my you know, my major affiliation even on my 158 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: niggas is from over there, from Man but um my 159 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: brother's tour as well from Harlem, and so you know, 160 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: I knew that wasn't me though. On me, I knew 161 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: what my niggas was doing, I wasn't gonna do. I 162 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: knew when he was hanging out, I wasn't hanging out 163 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying. I was on 164 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: something different, but then it was still my catch, you 165 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I just didn't you know, 166 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: I knew that wasn't mean man. I knew that was 167 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: something I wanted to be a part of. You know. Yeah, 168 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: that's that's honorable. Yeah, So let me ask you this him. 169 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: So you guys went in there, y'all started working with 170 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: Quick immediately off the rip on the players, I was 171 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: clicking alum, right, yeah, payers click right. But we're not 172 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: necessarily on the album, just music. Just because his his 173 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: his style Quick didn't have quite you know, know what 174 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: direction he was gonna go in at the time. You 175 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Quick was saying when he came 176 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: to the click, he wasn't even really rather he was 177 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: just doing beats and singing, and you know, but he 178 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: had the potential. You know, you could hear it. It's like, boy, 179 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: you did that. And he was around one of his 180 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: uncles that was making music, and so you know, he 181 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: was being groomed and teaching himself how to do the 182 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: thing as he was doing. And as far as he saying, 183 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: he was already doing little DJ ship, you know, so 184 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: getting off into the creativeness of the keys. He kind 185 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: of taught himself, but the gift was obviously in it. 186 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people want to make music. 187 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: When he told us he needed this or he needed that, 188 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, my mom's really looked out 189 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: for us man. So you know, between her and my partners, 190 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: that was getting money in the streets. And you know, 191 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: we tell a living that's what we need, thats what 192 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: we gotta do, you know, uh, because we're like, well, 193 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: hand whatever you need. When I got your back, you 194 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,479 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we needed a PC equipment, 195 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, we get it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, hold, 196 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't want you mentioned the importance of the DJ 197 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: back during that time, and a lot of people don't 198 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: know that the DJ was actually a really big part 199 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: for the music. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, he was. 200 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: He was the one that that kept the crowd interested 201 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: in what you was doing if you wasn't a sexy 202 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: nigger or you know whatever. A lot of cats was. 203 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that you know, certain groups, 204 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: I guess the DJ was background, but when he was 205 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: the forefront. You know, a lot of the the DJ's 206 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: name was involved in the name of the group. You 207 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. A lot of times it was 208 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: it was the DJ who was the man. You know 209 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: what I'm so, just how do you how you moved? 210 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: And we was the click? So you know, even though 211 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: I called myself the lead wrapper or whatever, but you know, 212 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: the Click wouldn't have been what it was without Quick, 213 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: and Quick wouldn't have been what he is without the Click. 214 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: But that don't mean the ship whn't the win and 215 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: did whatever it was gonna do it. I don't mean 216 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: Niggas would have went on to something great. It just 217 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: means that what it is, it is under the great 218 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: influence of each other, you know. Yeah, so not working 219 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: together and y'all become this crew on everything. What's the 220 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: record that you are recording? Y'all saying on all we 221 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: were getting the deal off this one, because eventually y'all 222 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: signed to one of the greatest regular labels in the world, 223 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: which would be Ruthless Records. Right, So what was the 224 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: record that made you all say, hey, we were getting 225 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: the deal off this, we could really do this. We 226 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: got aren't listening piece, let's go, We're ready in a lot, honesty, hommy, 227 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: we had like three deals before we got that, Before 228 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: that Penthouse Players Click deal arrived, right exclusive. Yeah, we 229 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: we had situations where, uh we were supposed to move 230 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: in a certain direction and it didn't happen. We was 231 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: with uh uh together, we were with West Coast Record Distributors, 232 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: and that was when Linzo Williams, Unknown DJ, Rudy Party 233 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: and Egyptian Lover. Okay, excuse me, let me go back 234 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: to the unknowned DJ real quickly unknowned DJ was known 235 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: for Gaff and Young Brothers publishing in the day. We'll know, 236 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: we didn't have that issue. I ain't saying that would 237 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: have happened or wouldn't have happened later. But you know, 238 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: that was just the name of the game on me 239 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: when the Cats you know, cast this was following suit 240 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: of what they were told on me. You know that's 241 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: that I mean, if you don't know, you're gonna get got, 242 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, in that situation, 243 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: they just wasn't moving quick enough for us, you know, 244 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: And so we moved on from that situation to another situation. Okay, Uh, 245 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: that situation we moved on to was a cat named 246 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: George Murphy about of eight Mile Road. He was I 247 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: think he was a Detroit cat. But yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, 248 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: that name so familiar when you said we run the West. 249 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm from inster Michigan. That's twenty minutes 250 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: from Detroit. So yeah, I said that name. I'm like, yo, 251 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: that's not kind of familiar. George Murphy was a cats 252 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: you know, trying to make moves me at a studio 253 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: and Peko in l A And so we was locked 254 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: in with them for a minute. They put us in 255 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: the big studio and uh, you know, we was making 256 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: music with him. But once again, it was a situation 257 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: where it wasn't moving like it was supposed to move, 258 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: And so we moved on from him as well. You know, 259 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: we had a few songs, like when you asked about songs, man, 260 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I was the lead rappisode 261 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: most of the music that was really getting the most 262 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: attention with Ship that I was rapping on. We had 263 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: a song called small Time Pushing. We had a song 264 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: called Hitting It. We had a song called Baby Wants 265 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: a Bowler. We had a song called My Dust, and 266 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: so we had music that once Quick came together with 267 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: what he was doing with him samples man. Quick, you know, 268 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: was was magic with the way he was sample man. 269 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: But like I said, he he followed in the footsteps 270 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: to Dre. I mean, he knew what he wanted to 271 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: do and how he wanted to do it. So he 272 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: took you know, the Dre style mixed in his own thing, 273 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: and then took the easy rap style mixed in his 274 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: own thing, mixed with what we was teaching him and 275 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: showing him and sharing with him, and and that just 276 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it just grew stronger and stronger and 277 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: stronger and stronger, you know. But you know, we was 278 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: making music and we were man, we had a lot 279 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: of them, you know, Quick had them underground records that 280 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: everybody heard on that red tape. And when he first 281 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: started trying to do that gag bang music, I was 282 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: telling me, now, you ain't gonna do that over here, 283 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: you know. So um he did it anyway with whoever 284 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: would allow him to do it, you know, And so 285 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: that was bubbling at the time. It's like I was 286 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: just talking to somebody recently about how, you know, my 287 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: main influences that wrapped is you know the Cats from 288 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, the early the mid eighties, you know, the 289 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: Big Daddy Canes and Ko rest WANs and and and 290 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: rock Kims and you know, uh, you know them them 291 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Cats was the catch that that when I came in 292 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: the game there as the Cats, I was, you know, 293 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: on the level of trying to you know, be the 294 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: peer of you know, not really realizing that the game 295 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: was changing. And then Cats was you know, for lack 296 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: of better terms, that that music was on its way 297 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: out and the new music gangsters it was coming in 298 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: it begins and getting a lot stronger, you know what 299 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So even if you know the four maps 300 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: that Quick and and and second and none was doing. 301 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: We have music like that too, and you know, but 302 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: that ain't the music that we did when we was 303 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: working on the Penthouse Players Click album. You know, Um, 304 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: we had options to do whatever we pretty much wanted 305 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: to do, man, and they had carte blanche over the 306 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: priority working with Easy and all that. But you know, 307 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: hindsight is, you know, at the time we over there 308 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: the Roofless, we didn't know Dre wasn't gonna be there. 309 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: That this the issue with with Dre and and and 310 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: and Easy and ice Cube. The ice Cube thing, we 311 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: knew about that, but we didn't know that that DRE 312 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: was gone, you know what I'm saying. Until we was 313 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: locked in and we was moving forward, we didn't We 314 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: weren't really aware of you know, because my deal came 315 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: in ninety one, early ninety one. So like I said, 316 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: once again, we don't know the inner workings and things 317 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: that are going on the drama that that Q might 318 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: have brought the priority and you know, all the you know, 319 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: the ship that you know you see in the movies. 320 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: Now that you're like, oh, that's what happened. You know 321 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that we wouldn't wear all the things 322 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: going on at the time. Now listen, you said y'all 323 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: wasn't aware that Dre was moving on. Do you think 324 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: that would have affected joe decision to go to Ruthless 325 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: if you had known that, because I mean, I definitely 326 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: think it would have affected Easy's decision to funk with 327 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: us because Easy was really chest moving to get too quick, 328 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and and and and on 329 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: whatever level he wanted to do that on That's what 330 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: my my hindsight is telling me. Um. But you know, 331 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Rufus was the powerhouse. So you know, Easy was gonna 332 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: funk with some people and he was gonna get some things, 333 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: going to have rhythm d and whoever else he was sucking. 334 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: We're doing music. So you know, Easy was gonna make 335 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: some ship happen no matter what. But he was just 336 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: you know, spreading his wings because you know, the man 337 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: had money and he was still a regular cat, but 338 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: he was just moving with a lot of power behind 339 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I think he would have made different 340 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: decisions now, you know the money talk, so you know, 341 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: like I said, only the only difference I would really 342 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: say was I would have actually Easy for more money, 343 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: and I think he would have gave it to me 344 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: for me, you know, naive to certain moves and and 345 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: cats wasn't really sharing the whole truth with me about 346 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: what was going on. You know. Uh, you know, things 347 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: went the way they went, you know, So you believe 348 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: Easy was done trying to look at Quick kind of 349 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: like as a replacement for dr Drink. Absolutely, I believe that, 350 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And uh, excuse me, smart man, 351 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, bro Um. I can't say nothing bad about Easy, 352 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying. Whatever, I actually Easy 353 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: before he gave me when he started having the mishoes 354 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: and then on what he was dealing with, you know, he, 355 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we was cool, but you know, I wasn't 356 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: one of his confidence. I wasn't one of the people 357 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: that you know that he looked too too to support 358 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: whatever he was doing and how he was doing it. 359 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: So you know, I can't expect nothing but for it 360 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: to go to it with understanding what I understand that, 361 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, not the easy in them approach, you guys 362 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: with that deal. Um well, yes, and no one of 363 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: my partners either he met he met Jerry or he 364 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: met he. I think he met Jerry in a bathroom 365 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: at one of them high powered restaurants or something and 366 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: knew who he was and he jeared that him and 367 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: then one thing led to another. Then Easy expressed interest 368 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: based on the association and affiliation. We was already kind 369 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: of like making move because we had been in a 370 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: couple of situations because we were signed me Quick and 371 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Tweet before Quick got his deal over there with Greedy 372 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: Greg now at profile. Me Quick and Tweet were signed 373 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: together with with Roof with my Roof is with with 374 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: with Heat, with with Sugar and and d O C. 375 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: When d OC had his accident and left and was 376 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: doing his own thing was Sugar. It was over there 377 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: with a white boy name nah oh Man, I can't 378 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: think of his name, but it was fern Heel to production, 379 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: it was bro yet it was furn Heel. Yeah, y'all 380 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: originally was on fern Heel, y'all. One of the first 381 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: group that was on Fern exactly fern Heel. And it 382 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: was funky enough records because it was d O C. 383 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: That Yeah, you know, we learned a lot of history 384 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: this nowhere else well yeah, yeah, you know, it's it's been, 385 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: it's been in the cup, but everybody ain't paying attention, 386 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, So when we did that, and then you know, 387 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: we was already making noise and talking ship, you know, 388 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: and when when Quick stepped off with that underground tape 389 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: and did what he did over there with greeting now 390 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: and and then got the deal atrop at profile and 391 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: then he dropped in ninety one like a bomb on 392 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: the game, you know what I'm saying. And then uh, 393 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: second to none came and a MG was in the 394 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: cup with bits better have My money, and high Seat 395 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: was over there affiliated with I'm not your puppet in 396 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: and so we had a whole thing going at that time, 397 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Where where niggas. If we'd 398 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: have been able to stay together or at least under 399 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: that umbrella, so to speak, we could have made some 400 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: really lovely things happened. But you know, cats agreed the 401 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: selfishness and and insecurity, and you know, you know, when 402 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: I was an artist man, that was the camp I 403 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: came through with High Seed, you know. But this is 404 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: like later on and all of them in our real 405 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: lives how powerful it was. But I also saw it 406 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: what in the unity, I think that thing could have 407 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: got kept together because I knew that you were kind 408 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: of like I didn't get to meet you back to then, 409 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: but I knew you was making records. But sugar Free too, Yeah, 410 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: well I was later on in the game because sugar Free, well, 411 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: I think wasn't even a part of it in the beginning. 412 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: It was locked up, you know what I'm saying. But um, 413 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: by that time, you know, Quick was in a in 414 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: a much more comfortable and powerful position. But everybody he 415 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: was associating with it a with wasn't necessarily forthcoming with 416 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: with what really needed to be known to build something 417 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: that was you know of the comparison of of Ruthless 418 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 1: or death Row or or anything like. The niggas wanted it, 419 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: but you know, niggas didn't know how to go about it. 420 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: On me, I guess, I mean, you know, I know 421 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: I didn't, you know what I'm saying. Now, looked though, 422 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: because y'are in y'all, dude eventually land on Ruthless. Talk 423 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: about when that debut nation wide album came out, Like 424 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: what was the reception, what was some of your bigger 425 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: markets as the West Coast? Because uh, I'm a lot 426 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: younger than y'all, I'm four years old, but I remember 427 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: them these records coming out of the West coast, you 428 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We had love in the Midwest, 429 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: real love in Chicago, Detroit, you know, and down south 430 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: we have real love in a lot of places. On 431 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: me because our album Game out, they do number one 432 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: on heat Seekers. So they was pushing the line because 433 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: that alliance between it and Easy was something that, you know, 434 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: that made noise, you know, and we was like the 435 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: group that I was allowed to make that noise, you 436 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But see, the thing was, you know, 437 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: you got business attentions that don't necessarily come to fruition 438 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: because certain people don't want to see it and they 439 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: don't want to share certain truths with you. So you 440 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: might have big ideas but not knowing what to take 441 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: to make them happen. Because initially I wasn't I was 442 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: signed alone as Penthouse players. Click Quick wasn't on that paperwork, 443 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: Tweet wasn't on that paperwork. I brought that situation together 444 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: because of my ties and affiliations with them, you see 445 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so when it was time to 446 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: basically for Ruthless Priority to sign Tweet rather than sign him, 447 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: they wanted to amend the Penthouse players click paperwork to 448 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: make him a part of that. And it was an 449 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: issue behind that because I don't know if they gave 450 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: that man some money or not. I know that man 451 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: didn't get me no money. I'm saying twee, he didn't 452 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: give me no money. But I looked out for tweet 453 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: and gay that nigga's money when he was on my album. 454 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. But you know, the bottom 455 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: line was the initial thing was to do you know, 456 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: Penouse players click tweet Cadillac album, play a hand album, 457 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: and then another Penouse players click album, all within the 458 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: first you know, twelve to eighteen or the two years 459 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: to try to build something like that. You see what 460 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because we was already locked in because I 461 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: wasn't signed just playing hand me. I was signed as 462 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: Pinouts Players. So even though the branded thing wasn't really 463 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: as big as it is now, it was still a 464 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: direction we was trying to go in with what we 465 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: were doing, you know, but we didn't have you know, 466 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: I didn't have to management, I didn't have an attorneys, 467 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't have had a guidance. I didn't have 468 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: all the things that you know, that even the nigga 469 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: is right next to me, even nigga's like quick on me, 470 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: he didn't. He didn't put my coattail when it came down. 471 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: You know, A you're gonna need this, and you're gonna 472 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: need that, and you're gonna need to do this, and 473 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to do that, you know. And I 474 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't pay no attention to the nick anybody. But 475 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: the bottom line was, he didn't even give me that opportunity, 476 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Couple of things like that, 477 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: when the nigga know something and you don't tell us. 478 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: Nigga supposed to be supposed to be brothers and he know, 479 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, he know, Oh over there, you're gonna do 480 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: your thing. So I'm don't let you go over there, 481 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's just the type of 482 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: ship we dinner with. Man. You know, I wanted to 483 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: ask you about some lyrics to the song man A 484 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: quick head and safety something because he mentioned you. My 485 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: niggas playing him and Xina gave me a place to 486 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: stay on my way up from bottom rock bitches starting 487 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: to job because my hair is getting longer and games 488 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: getting stronger to pull to put my way. That went 489 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: and got a job. But by then him Engina really 490 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: started the squad. But whether I should should go or stay, 491 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: she told him either he goes and you go. So 492 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: we both was on our way. Yeah, you left your 493 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: woman behind quick, nah, bro, I left my woman behind 494 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: with her and I were going through. But definitely, you 495 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: know that was part of you know what I'm saying, 496 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: pursuing your dream and and wanting to be what you 497 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: wanna be, and uh, you know you're dealing with issues 498 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: that you know, who could see you know what I'm saying. 499 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 1: At that time, It's like, you know, the things we 500 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: were doing. You know, I got niggas up in in 501 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: my house with my kids, and you know, we're trying 502 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: to make music and we're doing with niggas doing We 503 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: had pent house players click, so we attracted a certain element, 504 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that niggas in the streets 505 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: doing things. So there's a lot going on at the time, 506 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: a lot of pulling niggas in different directions. You know, 507 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: it just was different happens relationship. Excuse me, I said, 508 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: So it was it was kind of more like the atmosphere. Absolutely, 509 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: man you know. I mean I I could get into 510 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 1: a whole lot of personal ship as to why you know, 511 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: I think, you know, ship with a certain way that 512 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: they went. But the bottom line is that Nigga telling 513 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: the true story. She did actually shoot that ultimatum and 514 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: Nigga away, and I did choose, you know, based on 515 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: everything a career and that move when I had that 516 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: option as opposed to I'm gonna stay here and deal 517 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: with his mouth, you know, when his mouth ain't serving 518 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: me like I really want to be served, you know 519 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, when you yell, you did 520 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: what you do. Man. So you know, me and Geno 521 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: is partners right now. That's one of my best friends. 522 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: You know, do some Joey's other mothers, so you know, 523 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: all bs to the left. You know. The motivation and 524 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: inspiration in this music game is you know, who's to 525 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: say what's next? You know? Yeah? Yeah, after the debut 526 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: album come out, you're seeing stuff kind of taking off. 527 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: But like you said, you've got bigger ideas and they're 528 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: not going their place. Is this turning you off from 529 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: the music industry, not from rapping, but from the music industry, Nah, Man, 530 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: it was turning me off from dealing with certain niggas 531 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: on a certain level though the show. You know what 532 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying when I said niggas, I ain't just talking 533 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: about black man, you know, I'm talking about niggas and 534 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: bitches and white black you know. So it's like it's 535 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: like you're dealing with people on a certain level. Like 536 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: I said once again, you know, it's difficult to throw 537 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: yourself under the bus on me. But I wasn't the 538 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: easiest cat to talk to. You know what I'm saying. 539 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't the easiest person to tell somewhere or God 540 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: if you didn't love me and I didn't know it, 541 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: and I didn't love you and you didn't know it, 542 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: and that on respect and integrity that come with you know, 543 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: and my niggas who would have been my niggas that 544 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: would have been able to you know, control certain movement 545 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: that was wise enough. You know, they was doing time 546 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: my hustlers, that that was really in a position to 547 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: really you know, really like nigga, we're gonna do this. 548 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: Then niggas they was doing other things or they was 549 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, they was locked away a range at this time, 550 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: like when this was like more the Ruthless deal was 551 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: ninety two, so I was twenty eight, so twenty seven 552 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: because we had that. The album came in ninety two, 553 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: so I was signed in ninety one. But we was 554 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: working with uh, you know, like beginning to making this 555 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: ship happen around eighty eight with me a Quick and Tweet. 556 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: When Quick came to be a part of the Click, 557 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't six months before we got our first record 558 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: deal we get, so that was I was about twenty four. 559 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: Then you see what I'm saying. So it wasn't that 560 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, and nigga wasn't old enough to know better. 561 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: It was that a nigga wasn't shown what he needed 562 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: to be shown. Was what we was into, was what 563 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: we was into, you know. And so if you wasn't 564 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 1: that type of businessman or that type of hustler, you know, 565 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: if you was allowing yourself to be distracted by the menial, 566 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: trivial things that don't really matter in a in a 567 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: in a real man's reality, then you're gonna deal with 568 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: what you're dining with. Didn't go through what you're going 569 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: through in your priorities, gonna be that what they were, 570 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, and then they're gonna tell you're gonna take 571 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: advantage of your ignorance. You know, you got niggas in 572 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: the street getting money, maggas, I was dealing with hustler 573 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: cats on me in the neighborhood. Niggas that was, you know, 574 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: riding bins and and moving weight. I mean, you know 575 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The niggas was giving me money and 576 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: and looking out and and helping. And now I want 577 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: to be down with that hand. So even though you 578 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: know how it was back then niggas was gang banging 579 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: and hustling. Niggas wasn't wrapping. Niggas was clowning niggas with 580 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: this rap ship you know. Now, you know back then 581 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: maybe two out of twenty niggas or thirty niggas, the 582 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: fifty niggas was working with music and wrapping. You know 583 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was it was fifteen why niggas 584 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: gang banging and tien fifteen niggas hustling, and the rest 585 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: of these niggas was trying to do whatever they was 586 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: trying to do. It they was dope things or whatever, 587 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the game you're gonna flip, 588 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, and you had to really have talent. You 589 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: really have to be saying something back then, you really 590 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: had to have all the ducks in the roll, so 591 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: to speak. Everybody didn't sound a like you know what 592 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. When somebody came out, knew they was different. 593 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: They was they they brought something different to the table. 594 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: You ain't like the ship that's hot, the ship they pushing. Yeah, 595 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: just do that, you know what I'm saying. That ship 596 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: changed after Gangster Rap. You know, so how would you 597 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: say that was shaping your sound at the time, because 598 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: y'all had some rancors, but to compete with what was 599 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: going on because the death Rowers took off summer ninety 600 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,479 Speaker 1: two exactly exactly. But you know, once again, you know 601 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: the game was changing. You know, it was different things 602 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: in control from from hindsight as far as I'm concerned, 603 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: And and and when you think about everything that involved, 604 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: that's ball involved in that. You know, death Row was 605 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: was once again another powerhouse. But where's death Row to day? 606 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So with with an understanding 607 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: of of of looking back, you know, of course, I'm 608 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: sure you know cats if they had the opportunity, would 609 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: have done things a little different, you know. But at 610 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: the same time you know that this rap game eat 611 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: its own man. Well, me and my brother like to 612 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: do is we like to correct people when they say 613 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: the rap game or the music game, because with games 614 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: you get prizes. With music, that's a business. And if 615 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: you think it's a game, then that's why people lose 616 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: that it because they don't understand it. It's a business. 617 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: Because you just told us, the twenty eight year old you, 618 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: if you knew better, you would have did better with 619 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: the business, you feel me. So we always make sure 620 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: to say that people, this ain't the rap game, it's 621 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: the music business. And when you do business that in 622 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: resort of his money. When you play a game, you 623 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: either win a prize or you lose everything. And too 624 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: many people say the game and they lose everything. So 625 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: that's why we say this is the music business. Well absolutely, 626 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: but once again, you know, I respect that perspective a 627 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: thousand percent. But you know, the basketball, you know, league, 628 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: it's a game, and all these different sports is games. 629 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: Boxing is a game. You know what I'm saying, all 630 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: these different it's a game too. But you gotta have 631 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: your business right as somebody around you that got their 632 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: business right otherwise, you know, this this game to eat 633 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: its own, that business and eat its own because you know, 634 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: since the beginning of of of the the exploitation of 635 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: art and other people's talents, you know, this game is 636 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: built on people manipulating the ignorance of those with the 637 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: greatest talent. And that's why you've got people like Mike 638 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: and Prints and certain individuals who was like, no, I'm 639 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm bucking against that. And now you got this cat 640 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Kanye who's really like saying, you know, y'all got me 641 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: fucked up, you know what I'm saying. So Kanye is 642 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: really one of the you know what I'm seeing his movement. 643 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: He's really gonna bridge the gap, you know, if he's 644 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: allowed to, you know, protect himself on the level necessary. 645 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna bridge the gap between Martin, Malcolm, Matt Good 646 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: and Prince and Michael and Mohammed. You know, kanyaking bridge 647 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: that gap. Man. You know what I'm saying, It becomes 648 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: tupop Obama. You know what I'm saying. Let me because 649 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: you was around two of the possibly the greatest, two 650 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: of the greatest CEOs black music on the West coast, 651 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: not just the West Coast of Music, Eric Wright and 652 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: Sugar Night Young Shig. Back when fern here was cracking. 653 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: How was his demeanor back then? Was he was he 654 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: the aggressive ship? Was? He wasn't king blood back then? 655 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: That's all I can said. You know what I'm saying. Um, 656 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: it was love and respect, you know what I'm saying. 657 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 1: But it wasn't you know, all that ship wasn't going on. 658 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't. That wasn't what was popping. You 659 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I guess you know, when 660 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: you get to a certain level, you got more options. 661 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: You know, of course, you know, the bigger they are, 662 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: the harder they fall. You know, I don't mean, I 663 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: don't mean no disrespect. The ship many showed us loved 664 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: and when they didn't move fast enough in the nigger 665 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: step to him and like, look, man, we need to 666 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: go with you ain't gonna do what you you know, 667 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: if we ain't gonna do nothing, Shook said, getting my 668 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: money back, and you can go sho man. You know, 669 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: we man his money back and stepped off. And when 670 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: we did that, that's when Quick went over there with greedy. 671 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: Now and you know it was his shoes behind that 672 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: because you know, we thought we was moving in a 673 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: different direction. But you know, I said, Man, I ain't 674 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: mad at about none of that. You know, it's never signed, Greg, No, 675 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't signed. I wouldn't with Greedy like that. You 676 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uh, if it was a lot 677 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: involved once again, you know what I'm saying. With with 678 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: the way Cats was moving and getting down and so huh, 679 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: that could have derailed that move Quickly made with Greedy, 680 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: Gray could have derailed his career because he wanted if 681 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: they have a major problems with profile record, Remember they 682 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: had him with suspicion and stuff. Quick made a lot 683 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: of decisions from you know how they say, man hurt people, 684 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: hurt people. Quickness probably holding down and holding back a 685 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of pain and frustration and that he felt with 686 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: his family and and whatever other relationships and whatever else 687 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: was going on the side of his head. On me, 688 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I don't funk with him like 689 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: that right now. So I don't know, you know what 690 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It saddens me that that, you know, we 691 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: don't have a relationship that we could have had based 692 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: on what we had in the beginning. You know, But 693 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: I'd rather, I'd rather know the truth now then to 694 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: be caught up in with with more to lose than ever, 695 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: because you know, you funk with certain niggas. Man, you know, 696 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: you get caught up in the n you know, and 697 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: then then you gotta and then they gotta deal with 698 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: a lot of ships. I don't have to deal with 699 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: On me. I don't look show in these streets. On me, 700 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't worry about things. And nigga's worried about a 701 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: walk in places. They might not know who I am, 702 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: but if they find out my name, I ain't worried 703 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: about the nigga running up on me with a big ship. 704 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying now? Now, I don't know, 705 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: you know what the future whold, But I don't know 706 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: the bottom line is, you know. I just you know 707 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: Burton No Bridge is a fund over nobody man that 708 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: that I'm worried about coming back at. You know what 709 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I looks earlier. You mentioned like you 710 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: like with Jinna. You've got two sons. Do any of 711 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: your children do music? Young Johns man, I'm there the 712 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: l a Johns Now then you know, yeah game on me? Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 713 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: My boys. Man, both of them is my son? Tell me? 714 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, you know it's been steal from them, 715 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: you know the very beginning. I'm not one of the 716 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: cash that don't want my niggas to do what I 717 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: did better, you know. I mean, you know, you look 718 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: at Caster's got their boys and their children up in 719 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: this game, and they only want them motherfucker's to blow up. Man, 720 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: It's like, niggah, I ain't touching that, you know what 721 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, because people gotta know that you and 722 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 1: your son on his corner when they come to this ship. 723 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: Because the whole reason that somebody wouldn't be like you 724 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: can only take it so far, right. If I'm a 725 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: I only reached where the people allowed me to go. 726 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: If my kids can take the be time and be 727 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: the best in the world, guess what that is, y'all. 728 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: Manager not because I haven't seen this ship and I 729 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: ain't gonn let it happened, y'all. And when I tell 730 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: you that, when I tell you that they beached dog, 731 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: you could tell that they was reared under some truth. 732 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm seeing the monsters and you know steal now. You 733 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: know I'm man now, and I'm pretty sure you know 734 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: their dad man. Of course he overseeing everything. But I 735 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: managed the man then is my little monsters, and we 736 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: got something. We got something brewing because the things people 737 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: don't understand these labels, the way the record labels work today, 738 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: Like I ain't gonna putting the stuff out there, and 739 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: now I will be talking to some people actually right now. 740 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: But when you talk, even if even when you're talking 741 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: to the head dude that for the record lay them, 742 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: he has to have certain people in that building there's 743 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: gonna be willing the journey on his cause with him. 744 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: So when he brings that record up and say I 745 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: want to sign this group, you gotta remember when you 746 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: say you can sign a group, you're committing to a 747 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: lot of money and a lot of resources. So you 748 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: want to make sure that whole building is on board 749 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 1: with your decision that you make. So right now we're 750 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: floating through one of the major buildings, Dog and just 751 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: kind of like letting everybody putting their ears some stuff. 752 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: And right now we're getting good feedback. Though, But it 753 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: ain't as easy as people think. When you go to 754 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: get a record deal, Dog, it's gotta be a lot. 755 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: Even if people didn't do especially when the game, the business, 756 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: it's prone to funk over you. Yeah, if you allow it, 757 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. So if you're coming in 758 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: and they know and I am there to fund him, 759 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: so then the question becomes do I even want to 760 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: be involved and do I want to see him with something? 761 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna be able to manipulate that situation the 762 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: way I'm used to, especially with our own thing kind 763 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,919 Speaker 1: of because we already got a river, got a million 764 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: views on it before we even took somebody's giving a place. 765 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: You know, we come up in there, it ain't gonna 766 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: be just We're not just saying anything. It's softened. You 767 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's uh, it's it's legitimate. It's 768 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: not it's not something that's just just just docked it 769 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: up and you know, blowing up in your face. You 770 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: think it's something that's not. It's not that fit now, 771 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It ain't. It's that real ship, 772 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: you know. So it's like a situation where you know, 773 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: we just want to we really just want to deal 774 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: with people that feel like we feel and roll with 775 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: people that roll like we're doing right now. I feel 776 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: like that's what we're doing. You know what I'm saying 777 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: that everybody who get involved, you know, I feel like, 778 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 1: you know, they want of us. You know what I'm saying. 779 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: We all cut of the same cloth, from from a 780 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: from a different motherfucking pattern, you know what I'm saying. 781 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: But it's all love, you know what I'm saying. So 782 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: it's a situation where it's too much potential in what 783 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: we're doing for Nikkas to not appreciate and respect. How 784 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: are we coming in this motherfucker this time? You know? So? 785 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 1: So I noticed you had said that you don't really 786 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: rock with quick right now? Is this a situation where 787 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: that can be rectified with a conversation? Man the man? Uh? 788 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: Can it be rectified with a conversation? Man the man? No? 789 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: But what it can do, what it can do is 790 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: established right what it can do was established a fair 791 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: exchange in the moment, Yeah, and then the next fair exchange, 792 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: and then the next fair exchange. Because you know, I 793 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: don't know what he trusts a how he move, but 794 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: who around and what they do? Yeah. So you know, 795 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: you walk into grocery store and you know, as long 796 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: as they don't stink and it ain't too dirty. You 797 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: go over to the butcher. You know you you're gonna 798 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,800 Speaker 1: trust that when whatever you buy, it's gonna it's gonna 799 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: be healthy for your family. Yeah. Now I'm gonna tell 800 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: you why I ask that too, right, I asked, because 801 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: your son is coming up in the game. They yeah, 802 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: I at l A. I mean I talked to people 803 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: all the time. I say, what's your dream collaboration, If 804 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: you can get one producer. I always hear one or 805 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 1: two producers. When the people coming from the West Coast, 806 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: it's either gonna be dre or it's gonna be Quick. 807 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: And I asked that because when that time come, I 808 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: would hate for Quick to not be one hunted and 809 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: work with the next up and coming because he got it. 810 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: Oh issue what they did because play but I'm a 811 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: little him break that down. Well, if Quick wanted to 812 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: see Nikkas with something moment, he the best single. Yeah. See, 813 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: people can say whatever they want to say from a 814 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: lack of understanding or lack of knowledge. But quickly that 815 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: his own record label, Man System, quickly put out music 816 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: whenever he wants to. We got next ships with radio stations. 817 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,240 Speaker 1: Quick can do whatever you want to do. And obviously 818 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: that's what he do. Now, if he ain't putting nobody out, 819 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: he's been at a label for twenty years. If he 820 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: ain't putting no artists out. And no, he didn't put 821 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: out Second or nine. No, he didn't put out ship Free. 822 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: No he didn't put out most birds. No, he didn't 823 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: put out nobody but himself. So if he wanted to 824 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: do more, he would, you know what I'm saying. So 825 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: if he ain't funning with niggas, you know, I have 826 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: some other niggas, some real artists. If they've been around him, 827 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: you ain't. Niggas might be honest and niggas might be 828 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: like man, I ain't touched. You know what I'm saying. 829 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: It's like man, you know on the eight seven eighty 830 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: eight Man my big Joe west Man. He thirty four, 831 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: thirty five years old. Now he was a baby when 832 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: Quick came around, hold me DJ Quick Talk, du Smack, 833 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: how to ride a bike on me? And there what 834 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying he was, he was, That's who he was 835 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: in our reality. Like I said, he's slept in the 836 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: room with my sons and they were babies home you 837 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: understand little boys. So you know, if he wants to 838 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: see niggas with something and he want to collab He man, 839 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't stay cracked for the real ones on me 840 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: way where I mean, we stayed ready for whatever, you know. 841 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: So if the man want to do some business and 842 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: do some work, we could do some work. But he 843 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: ain't gonna come with that, you know, nothing less than 844 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: what we come with it. You know what, either need 845 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: to come to the table like that because you know 846 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: the situation was was was you know, a lot of 847 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: truth should have been shared that wasn't, man, And I 848 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: can't be mad about that because I should have went 849 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: elsewhereing got it. But at the same time, moment, you know, quick, 850 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: did you know sell me a house with no interests? 851 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, with no no mark up? 852 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you know he sold 853 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: it to a nigga with the equity in it. So 854 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: I can't be mad. But when you know, when it's 855 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: all boiled down to what's real? Hom me, quick, No, 856 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: what's real? And and you know I know what's real? 857 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that's understandable you don't, but yeah, I 858 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: had to ask that though, because that's what the people 859 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: were don't want to know we're funk with quick If 860 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: Quickly want to funk with us, we ain't gonna We 861 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: ain't gonna put no cut on the second. Yeah, we 862 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: ain't gonna serving nigga. No, no, no sixty four, no 863 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: fifty fifty ft sixty's gonna serving nigga thousand a thousand, 864 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: you know. And it ain't like that. Then we don't 865 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: even need to play with each other's intelligence, you know. Yeah, 866 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: let me ask you because I was asking you about 867 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: the CEO s Man. Yeah, because I knew a lot 868 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: of stuff about Easy though, a whole lot of stuff. 869 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: It's Easy was a joker, the funniest people around. What 870 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: was your relationship like with Easy Man? Easy was like 871 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm my recollection is He kept at business. But he 872 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, he wasn't overbearing. He wasn't he didn't 873 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: consider himself above and nigga. He considered the nigga as 874 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: his peer, right, But at the same time, he knew 875 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: who he was and how much was was back in him, 876 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so it wasn't like 877 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: he gave me, you know, the game. He gave Quick 878 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: more game than he gave me. You know, I was 879 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: an artist. I was his artist. Yeah, that's what I 880 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: was gonna say. Is it because him and Quick um 881 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: build a different relationship like hung together more because you 882 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: was the artist where you just do cutting records and leaving. 883 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely absolutely brouh. Like I said, I wasn't there 884 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: right And a lot of this is speculation in just 885 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: my opinion, but Quick Easy desired that relationship with Quick 886 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: and Pentouse players. Click was away to facilitate that, you 887 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's my opinion, right, So I 888 00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: know that, you know, even if Quick wasn't going to 889 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: Easy or he was, I know Quick, I mean, I 890 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: know Easy with the type of cat. When I found 891 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: out that Easy and Quick had the same accountants, you 892 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,320 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. I couldn't have the same accounts 893 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: because I'm as artist. You know. When I found out 894 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: that Easy and Quick had the same accounts, that wasn't 895 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: because of Quick, that was because Easy. Because that meant 896 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: Easy said I'm gonna put you on I'm a lot, 897 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm to help you with something. I'm gonna help you. 898 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Because Quick obviously needed what 899 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: Easy represented, and he gravitated towards that on one level 900 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: or another. But Easy was a smart man on you 901 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that you can't the same thing 902 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: about about should Should was smart to do what he did, 903 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: but then a lot of ship wasn't so smart. You 904 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We all of us are like that. 905 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: We make a lot of wise ship wise moves, and 906 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: then we make a lot of stupid moves. You know 907 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, not so wise moves. You know that 908 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: when you was over a roofless am did ask some 909 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: good producers. You mentioned Rhythm d I know DJ Bob 910 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: Kenny came in there at one time. It's like the 911 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: here producer in your head. Um, y'all asked some mother 912 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: cash to above and law which game he has? Another 913 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: mistake I made het me see, I should have sunked 914 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: with them niggas back then. I had actually that sucking 915 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: with a lot of people. You know, um um, when 916 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: I already asked me who I wanted to like do music, 917 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: But I think the only person I said was scar Face, 918 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So they're trying to put 919 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 1: that together. But you know I could have said anybody. 920 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: I could have said rock can't I could have said 921 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: kr Res, I could have said, all my label makes 922 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: the priority, you know what I'm saying, whoever was over 923 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: there doing their thing, But that ain't what I did, 924 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying, So that's on me. But 925 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, our album was produced 926 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: exclusively by DJ Quick, with one song by battle Cat 927 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: that that they ultimately gave Quick the credit for, and 928 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: that was just to keep your attention, you know what 929 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, plus a little production that I did because 930 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: I was playing in with it, and then Quick just 931 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: basically screwed and and did what he did and made 932 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: it do what it do, which was jealous knuckleheads. But 933 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: the bottom line is, you know, back then, things were different. 934 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: You know a lot of things were different. It was 935 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: only you know, it was only it was limited ways 936 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 1: to make it happen. Now it's it's pretty much unlimited ways. 937 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: But it's still a limitation as far as going to 938 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: that next level. You gotta really, you know, hit the 939 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,399 Speaker 1: lottery to go to the next level without some associations 940 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: or filiations with something that's already tracked. You know. Now 941 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about some I'm gonna talk about some 942 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,479 Speaker 1: crazy stuff. And this ain't I ain't trying to pitch 943 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 1: nobody off of them the East to play with the 944 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: Uigi boards around you. Did you ever hear about them 945 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,439 Speaker 1: playing I didn't. I didn't. I didn't see that side 946 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: of him moment. My my opinion isn't Easy was working 947 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: with that. He just didn't know what he was working with, man, 948 00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: because he thought it was a game or a joke. Huh. 949 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: But you had heard that before though, right, I heard 950 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: something to that extent that he toyed with that. You 951 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know that was one of 952 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: the things people, and I'd like to ask people it 953 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: was around Easy because nobody will ever come on camera 954 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: and see it. And I ain't saying that, you know, 955 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: because am you? You didn't mess with him like evidently 956 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: m uh yeah. People tell me he missed with that 957 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: doing it might have been him because he was a jokester. 958 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: Right Still, that's your favorite easy question. Anybody who was 959 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: around Easy to eat, that's your favorite question to ask. Well, 960 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, when it comes to spiritual things, man, 961 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,800 Speaker 1: everybody got their way, they get out, you know what 962 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Uh, ship happens man, Uh I wasn't near them, 963 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: I didn't have I didn't know, I didn't have to 964 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: deal with none of that that negative energy. Man, Thank goodness, 965 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: that's probably do one that wants a kid to my mom, man, 966 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: praying over my life and my reality on so my 967 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: mother and the people that you know, in spite of me, 968 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, not doing what they told me to do, 969 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: and and still doing what I did, but still being 970 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 1: blessed to make it through, you know what I'm saying, 971 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,240 Speaker 1: and not be caught up. You know, never called no case, 972 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: never called no d y, you know, never never got 973 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, never been on child support for more than 974 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 1: a couple of months till I handled that business, you 975 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's I'm blessed to be 976 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 1: the made it through to this point. You know what 977 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Do not lets just where did you land 978 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 1: after the Ruthless album? Because you didn't. I can tell 979 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,919 Speaker 1: to this day you never stopped making music. So where 980 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: did you land and what type of uh? How did 981 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: you feel about the industry after You're done? Had everything 982 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: far as a number one record? Because it's it's mad 983 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,439 Speaker 1: niggas who wrapped everybody can't say they had a number 984 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: one record hunt yeah, even though it wasn't not hellable, 985 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: but anyway, no, no, no, no man, no down't play 986 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,480 Speaker 1: you never because that was number one, even even do 987 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: the heat Seekers even exists. Now, it's just all love. 988 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: You know, I ain't trying to make it sound like 989 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't grateful, you know, I really am 990 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: on me and it just blow me to it what 991 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: I fucked up. But anyway, let's just keep you know. 992 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: It's like it's like, you know, I deal with with 993 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: some mohomies on some love ship, my nigga Charlie and 994 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 1: j T. We had Excel Records, you know what I'm saying. 995 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: And uh that was around the Sugar Free time, right 996 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: when I was making music, and I did some really 997 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: good music with my niggas. You know. Then after that, 998 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: I was over there at uh working with Brainstormer and 999 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: like a big bot, and then Greedy was involved to 1000 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: a certain extent. It's another, you know, another story. But 1001 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: but anyway, Uh so I bounced around, kept making music 1002 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: and kept trying to you know, affiliate with different ships 1003 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 1: and you know, making music here, guesting here, guesting there. 1004 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,800 Speaker 1: But I never really uh you know, pushed like like 1005 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: I like I probably should have been could have you know. 1006 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: But you know, you know, when my sons became of 1007 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: age and we started really trying to you know, plug 1008 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: them in. So you know, they got music with some 1009 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 1: high powered cats. They got music with Glasses, they got 1010 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,720 Speaker 1: music with Jelly Roll, they got music with Black Token, 1011 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: they got music with UH Day One, they got music 1012 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: with UH Battle Cat. You know what I'm saying. They 1013 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: got music with with UH, with a lot of different niggas. Man, 1014 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: they're working on music with other cats. And so you know, 1015 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: my niggas has grown men, and I'm proud of them 1016 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: and what they're doing and how they represent, you know, 1017 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 1: to the next level, you know. And so you know, 1018 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: I've always tried instilling them to stand on their own 1019 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: and be their own and do their own thing, you know. 1020 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: And so all I was just give them everything that 1021 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: I got to give them and allowed them to pick 1022 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: and choose of it what they want to take and 1023 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: what they want to leave there. I can't be mad 1024 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: at you know. Let me ask you this, man, So 1025 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 1: you know that Sugar Free came in on the tail end, 1026 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: what did you think of Royal Rock when you first 1027 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: heard you knew came in as Royal Rock. First. I 1028 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: liked the stabb of the comedic way he wrapped about 1029 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: that pimp and in the way he did this thing. 1030 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: It was, it was real clever, you know what I'm saying. 1031 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: It was I had to respect it. And then when 1032 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,959 Speaker 1: he gave me so much love, you know what I'm saying, 1033 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: and allowed me to be a part of that debut project. 1034 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: You know, it was the most eyes I've never had 1035 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: on anything I've ever done. You know, that's the most 1036 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: radio player I ever got on the song I ever 1037 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: been on, you know what I'm saying. So so even 1038 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: though I got cut out, you know, of of a 1039 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: lot of that because that ship blew up bigger than 1040 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: they thought it was, you know, because on the original version, 1041 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: I got the whole second verse, you know what I'm 1042 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 1: saying on the video And I don't even know I 1043 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: got cut out like that until I showed up at 1044 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,919 Speaker 1: the video shoot uninvited. Nig didn't even tell me about 1045 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: the video shoot rom you know what I'm saying. I 1046 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: just happened to find out through some other niggas and 1047 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 1: pulled up ready to go, and I'm like, I don't 1048 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: even trip off Nigga is not telling me right what 1049 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. When they start playing the song on 1050 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: me and I'm thinking it was time for my verse 1051 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: and make a sicker free start rapping again, I was 1052 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: kind of shocked, you know what I'm saying. Of Course, 1053 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,719 Speaker 1: I still played my position and did my thing, you know, 1054 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,680 Speaker 1: and waited to see if I was on the third 1055 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: verse still or not. You know what I'm saying. That 1056 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: was a That was a heavy Uh. That was a 1057 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: heavy blow man. I took that though. You know, now 1058 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 1: who think who? Who? Who? I think made that decision? Yeah, 1059 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: it had to be the hierarchy over there at Shepard Lane, 1060 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It had to be they 1061 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: had to agree to uh stand CHEVD Tony Lane dj 1062 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: uh the other cat naming was involved. You know, it 1063 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 1: had to be him on. You know what I'm saying. 1064 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 1: They had to do that together. They had and didn't 1065 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: not tell me though as it's funked up, they could 1066 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: have told me. I wouldn't. You know. It's a trick man, 1067 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 1: how that ship go. A lot of that be because 1068 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: when when they be when people be doing them slide 1069 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: bar move. I'm just saying overall in the industry, they 1070 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: forget people grown man. You could just tell me, bro, hey, 1071 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: look we're going in a different direction, because the hard 1072 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: feeling is gonna be created when you just take me 1073 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: off and don't tell me about the video. You could 1074 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: have just told me, pind of like, look, we're going 1075 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: in a different direction. I'm sure you would have respected that. 1076 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: You might have been upset, but you would have respected 1077 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 1: it more you feeling. I mean, of course, I wouldn't 1078 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: have had no choice, you know what I'm saying, Just 1079 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: like I didn't have no choice right there. But at 1080 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: the same time, you know why even though you know 1081 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: it's like it's it's moved now, but but but why 1082 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: do that? It ain't like they made the record better 1083 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,959 Speaker 1: taking me taking me off, because the record was already moving, 1084 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: right record on that you know, like the most that 1085 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: was the record that I said, that's the one that 1086 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: put him on the map. You know what I'm saying. 1087 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: You don't know what we're talking about about if you 1088 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:03,239 Speaker 1: stay ready, yeah, exactly. So it's like it's like it 1089 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: ain't like I didn't do my thing on that record, 1090 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I feel, you know, 1091 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: in all honesty, and I'm gonna just say it. I 1092 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: feel like niggas didn't want me to shine. You know 1093 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They didn't want me to get that 1094 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: Shoine because I wasn't locked in no situation with them 1095 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: and had that ship allowed me the opportunity to blow 1096 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: from a from that the whole second verse, that level. 1097 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying it If they didn't, they 1098 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: couldn't control that were you want excuse me, you want 1099 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 1: being in that video though? Right, yeah, I was there 1100 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: and I was in the video. I'm still in the 1101 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 1: third verse. They still gave me my few bars in 1102 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: the third verse, and I'm still there, you know what 1103 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But just like on the original version of 1104 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: the album version and say shippar Free, We'll play a hand. 1105 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: But when they remixed it and say sugar Free with 1106 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,879 Speaker 1: DJ Quick, you see what I'm saying, saying telling y'all 1107 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,120 Speaker 1: to stay ready, you ain't gonna get ready. So that's 1108 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,359 Speaker 1: the radio version, But my verse was already radio y'all. 1109 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: I was already ahead of the game when it came 1110 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 1: to that. I'm like, man, I mine, I'm wrapped. I'm 1111 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: not gonna just cuss on ship no more. But they 1112 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: gotta you know, now, I'm gonna make my ship radio 1113 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: or still keeping, you know, make niggas think they got 1114 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: cutched out, you know what I'm saying. But the bottom 1115 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: line is, you know that was that was in addition 1116 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: to whatever business move they thought they was making. They 1117 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: didn't want me to shine on me like that on me. 1118 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: They just took that shine from you. But you know 1119 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: because you mad at none of the niggas, man, because 1120 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't think black I don't think black tune. Honestly, 1121 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that was his get done. I don't 1122 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 1: think he even cared about ship like that. Really well, 1123 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 1: he was. He's the lane of Shepherd Lane. You know 1124 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:02,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know you like that. He damned 1125 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't do him like that. You know what. We're 1126 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: cool at fuck, but that ain't my big on you 1127 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it's when the business come 1128 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: into because you start talking about publishing, split some songs now, 1129 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: and the song was performing really well, so it's easy 1130 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: for them to say, hey man, we do on this, 1131 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: do quick publishing, and we got this cat play him 1132 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: and then he gotta have the pups on that song. 1133 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: We need to change that exactly, Brox. That's that's where 1134 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: the business coming into that public issue today. You know 1135 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's still because the original version still 1136 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: is what it is, you know. But it's still a 1137 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: issue when it comes to that owner ship right now, 1138 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so you ain't so 1139 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 1: let me ask you this then, because that was a 1140 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: big record and you didn't get your publishing off that 1141 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: song like he was supposed to go. I didn't get 1142 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: my whole peace, I gotta I got a portion, but 1143 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: I didn't get my whole portion, because that would have 1144 00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: been a nice little check about that time. Though it 1145 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: was coming nice at first, you know what I'm saying, 1146 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden the numbers got changed. 1147 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: And when I send my people to check it out, 1148 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: he said, the numbers changed, And I'm like, well, who 1149 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: does that? Where do you do that? How do they 1150 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 1: do that? You know what I'm saying. So you know, 1151 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: it's still an issue right now that that's got to 1152 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: be hired out, you know. But now, look, where do 1153 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 1: you get your nickname from? Because you you l A 1154 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,919 Speaker 1: it's usually something different. You can you play in hand 1155 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: like where where that comes? Well, you know, in high school, 1156 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: ho me my boy j B. Man, my brother from 1157 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: another mother Man and the cat I've been looking up 1158 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,040 Speaker 1: to ever since we've been adults. Man for everything he represents. 1159 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: He uh you know, I had a business partner of mine. 1160 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: Um he gave me that name hand right because in 1161 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: the high school band, uh, we all we play Susie 1162 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,959 Speaker 1: together and so when the when the when the band 1163 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: conductor would call on somebody from our section to play 1164 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: a certain section of the song, I would always raise 1165 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: my hand, Oh hey, I play it. I played and 1166 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 1: just start playing it because I could play. You know 1167 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,919 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, read music, and everything sues the phone 1168 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: tooba okay, yeah, so you know the base on so 1169 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 1: uh you know, and it would say, look at the 1170 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 1: big hand. You know what I'm saying, the big hand. 1171 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 1: So they just start calling me big hand at first, 1172 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then from there as 1173 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, a nigga demeanor and approach to the reality 1174 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 1: mature the player. Things just came in. Play her hand, 1175 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: look at play her hand, and it just it's stuck. 1176 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It wants the Nigget discovered 1177 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: that click name Homie and what I said seeing the 1178 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: homie with the jaggon on and and added the mother 1179 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: descriptive narrative to it. You know what I'm saying, It 1180 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 1: became you know something I still represent to this day. 1181 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 1: You know it was the penthouse players. Click. You gotta 1182 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: tell me that you had a penhouse before? Right? Excuse me, 1183 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 1: I said you had a penhouse before? Right? Everywhere I 1184 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 1: dwell with the penthouse on that for the doghouse, the penhouse. 1185 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Don't know what I'm saying. Yeah, every everywhere out to live, 1186 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: they can call it the penhouse. I mean, if if 1187 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,160 Speaker 1: I just post up for a moment, maybe it's the penhouse. Now, 1188 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: it's all I want to go back to something real quick, Man, 1189 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: because I think you're very underrated as well as above 1190 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 1: the law. I don't think above the law getting nowhere 1191 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 1: near the credit that they should get man. Because they 1192 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: were very not seeing that Drake would never be d 1193 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: as the ship as there was DJ Quick. We can't 1194 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: never get that confused. But hutch gold Mac and letm 1195 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: care some was conbusive for them dog Drake because they 1196 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: talked Warren g gotta produce yeah, they got some ship 1197 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: from them dogs and don't do the ship. I think 1198 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: y'all could have did some incredible ship, ain't them? Hey? 1199 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 1: And we still can on me, I'll foxed with hutch 1200 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We just ain't. We did 1201 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: a little something a couple of times, but our foxed 1202 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 1: with hutch Man, we were gonna probably put something together 1203 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: again real soon. Man. My brother was intern in Psychopathic 1204 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Records and he was there the day that they signed 1205 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: hutch And he was the only person in the office 1206 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: besides I c P who knew who Hud you was? Bro? 1207 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Wow was that be? That was after Ruthless? This was 1208 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: way after Ruthless? This was this was way after Ruthless 1209 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Hutching Like, huh fo No, it probably was about ten 1210 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: for real, for real, it's more than ten. But huh, 1211 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: I remember when he signed over there. Ye, my brother 1212 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,480 Speaker 1: was the only person in the office. He was like, Bro, 1213 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: you you you hut from a bud of law. Hud 1214 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: couldn't believe it, you know, the only person who knew 1215 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: who he was. Yeah, that's why they got a hold 1216 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: different fan base, type of crowd exactly. But when you 1217 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 1: play their music, man, you know, you know where it 1218 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: came from home, and you know they influenced on me 1219 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 1: and and Hutch been real humble about that, but at 1220 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: the same time passes progressive with it, you know. But 1221 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: he really, you know, he know what he can do, man, 1222 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 1: and he still do it, you know, fearlessly. You know 1223 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, number love and respect for hus Man 1224 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: plan on me. I'll respect that, the whole Promona car Man, 1225 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: Niggah Pipping Young, even that nigga Percy Man. You know, 1226 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: you know I got love for them niggas man, you know, yeah, 1227 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 1: for real real man. Well, man, I appreciate you coming 1228 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: on brother. He's log I gotta say my nigga weel log. 1229 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: I can't do it. I can't talk at where can 1230 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 1: people get at you? At him? Man? You know what's 1231 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: that Pinouts playing ham on me on all the platforms 1232 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 1: on me, and you know I'm about to, you know, 1233 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 1: set off this other podcast thing to man, the pay opinion. Man. 1234 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: I've been pushing though little sprinkles here and there, but 1235 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna have to have my niggas come 1236 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: up with me on mine too. You know, whatever help 1237 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: you need for much man, you let me know. I'm 1238 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: for sure, baby, I appreciate it. Man, you know what 1239 01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: we do. What I'm saying here, everybody, ladies and gentlemen 1240 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: clear him, like thank my boyfriend company in and gets 1241 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 1: hold some with me. Man for a second night, your 1242 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 1: brother wasn't there, my boy aj Man from the Connected 1243 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 1: Experience podcast the drops every Monday on the Digital Soapbox network. 1244 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: Y'all make sure man, y'all go subscribe. Man, these brothers 1245 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 1: got one of the coldest podcasts in the game. Man, 1246 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 1: y'all been running one of the flagship shows on Digital Soapboxine. Right, Yeah, 1247 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: we're still here baby, with the last of the Mohigans. 1248 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't even know Gangster Chronicles when we started doing 1249 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,680 Speaker 1: business together. It was not as never. You told us 1250 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: the games the Chronicles and broke it down and he's like, Yo, 1251 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 1: that's it right there. But yeah, we're still here, man. 1252 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 1: There ain't nothing gonna change. Man. The Connected Experience every Monday, Uh, 1253 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 1: you just you pressed player on that, man, We just 1254 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: take you to a different world. We had everybody on it, 1255 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 1: anybody you could think of. Because we can sit and 1256 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: talk to anybody, Oprah, go beyond one day because we 1257 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: can sit and talk to anybody from the artists who 1258 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: never who who just started with their first song, to CEOs, 1259 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,959 Speaker 1: the major companies, man of the Connected Experience tc POT 1260 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter, and I'll make sure I got 1261 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: a link for that. I'll make sure I got a 1262 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 1: link for that in the description for y'all. And we 1263 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: gon have hands podcasts coming pretty soon. I'm gonna be 1264 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 1: posted links up for man, let's do it the shore 1265 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: and we got to hear your piece