Speaker 1: June twenty eighth, twenty fourteen, Boston, Massachusetts, Case Gymnasium, five
Speaker 1: hundred can the line. A group of ex college stars
Speaker 1: bat let out for a winner take all championship. Two
Speaker 1: slubs watch from the sideline as twenty Case slips away
Speaker 1: before their eyes. This is twenty fourteen's the Basketball Tournament Championship. Hello, okay,
Speaker 1: and welcome to games with Names presented by Wisdom, Oh sorry,
Speaker 1: presented by win Bed of course, as you guys can tell,
Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman, I'm sammurrel one to search to find
Speaker 1: the greatest games of all time. And yes we're we're
Speaker 1: joined here today with the infamous Big Cat. What's up?
Speaker 1: How I feel great? And today we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about the infamous twenty fourteen first Annual the Basketball Tournament Final. Yes, history, history, history,
Speaker 1: This thing's literally been under wraps for years. You haven't
Speaker 1: talked about this, Nope, nope. And this is Team Barstool
Speaker 1: versus the Notre Dame Fighting Alumni. Yes, yes, and it's uh,
Speaker 1: it is history. Because the Basketball Tournament is something people
Speaker 1: watch now, they watched it on regular ESPN. It's become
Speaker 1: a big deal. This was the first ever tournament, the
Speaker 1: first ever championship. We could have been in history as
Speaker 1: being the inaugural champions and we did. Sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: getting to the championship and losing is it's like the
Speaker 1: worst thing you can ever have. Yes, you know, you
Speaker 1: wish almost you losing like the divisional round or the championship,
Speaker 1: to get to the championship. So I can feel you
Speaker 1: gonna This is gonna really open you up a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's it's the pain of knowing you were right there,
Speaker 1: we were half away, and uh, like I said, it
Speaker 1: would have been history. You know, if this, if the
Speaker 1: basketball tournament becomes something that lives on for a hundred years,
Speaker 1: they could always point back to us and be like
Speaker 1: that team won the first one ever. Instead were just
Speaker 1: erase from history. Oh it's amazing how quickly I got
Speaker 1: into this too. I was, this is the first non
Speaker 1: you know, professional sport thing we've done. WHOA, WHOA? Are
Speaker 1: you saying this wasn't a real No, I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: saying legally, this is the first one we can use
Speaker 1: clips of on YouTube. What I'm saying, there we go. No,
Speaker 1: But I got into this quickly. The nostalgia, the NBA
Speaker 1: on NBC Music. You're using it takes me back. That
Speaker 1: was my favorite time to watch basketball, the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and it was Yeah, I mean the entire lead up
Speaker 1: to it, the tournament was very, very fun. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of our fans old school barstool like this is
Speaker 1: what they look to when Dave and I would go
Speaker 1: out and do stuff like this, and uh, it could
Speaker 1: have it could have been something we could have talked
Speaker 1: about forever in glowing terms. Now it's instead something we
Speaker 1: just never bring up. We never ever bring it up.
Speaker 1: Never bring it up. We never bring it up. We
Speaker 1: just bury it away and pretend it never happened. To
Speaker 1: get up and go after this loss, right and go, Yeah,
Speaker 1: get up and go and just never talk about it,
Speaker 1: never talk about it. We also got to give a
Speaker 1: shout out because this is a team Hank podcast. Yes,
Speaker 1: Hank's in the building. Think how you feeling over there?
Speaker 1: You're good. He's gonna come up to mic. So Hank
Speaker 1: is my memory, Hank. If every clip you see, Hank,
Speaker 1: this is truly old school barstool where it was Dave
Speaker 1: and I, Gaz and Hank all traveling around. They were
Speaker 1: videoing everything. It was you know, a four man operation.
Speaker 1: I don't think there was anyone else. And so he
Speaker 1: is here, is my is my memory? As you know jewels,
Speaker 1: sometimes memory, you know, evades us. So that's why he's here,
Speaker 1: does it? Yeah? You need a Hank who walks around
Speaker 1: and tells you everything that happened in your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm also I was also very broken. I remember we
Speaker 1: were gonna go to the club and like, oh, we'll
Speaker 1: get to that or to that. Just there's a lot
Speaker 1: of side stories sad night. Yeah, can we start with
Speaker 1: how the team was assembled? Yes? Yes, So so Matt Walsh,
Speaker 1: who played at Florida, also played for the Heat. So
Speaker 1: he is a huge stooly longtime stooy friend of ours,
Speaker 1: and he approached us and he was like, Hey, there's
Speaker 1: this new tournament that they're trying to put on. And
Speaker 1: essentially there's a component to the tournament that's a fan vote.
Speaker 1: So if you get enough fan votes, you get the
Speaker 1: one seed. You get to if you get to the championship,
Speaker 1: you get to pick your location. All these perks come
Speaker 1: with being the one seed. So he was like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's team up because he knows like Dave and I
Speaker 1: and Barstool has a big following. Matt said that he
Speaker 1: would take care of the players. All we got to
Speaker 1: do is take care of the fan vote, which we
Speaker 1: crushed so much that like there were all these ancillary
Speaker 1: prizes that TBT was going to give away for anyone
Speaker 1: who had, Like, you know, if you get ten thousand
Speaker 1: people to vote for you, you you get this, if you
Speaker 1: get twenty, we crushed it so bad they just shut
Speaker 1: off all the prizes. They're like, you guys, can't get
Speaker 1: anything else. Tell me you got more votes than the
Speaker 1: best of the DMV. He had the best, the best
Speaker 1: of the deal. And this is a brand new thing,
Speaker 1: so no one knows what it is. So so Matt
Speaker 1: puts together the team. His coach, the our coach, coach
Speaker 1: Ross Burns, who trains a bunch of NBA players. He's
Speaker 1: connected with a bunch of NBA players. The rule was
Speaker 1: you can't have any active NBA players on the roster.
Speaker 1: So but we got If you look at all the
Speaker 1: rosters and all the teams, we had by far the
Speaker 1: best talent because we had Dante Jones, who want to
Speaker 1: ring with the Cavs. Two years later, played played for Duke,
Speaker 1: played in the NBA Josh Boone who he was still
Speaker 1: an NBA level town. Yeah, I know, he's an NBA
Speaker 1: level talent. Yeah in college? What they were in college?
Speaker 1: No, no no, all the guys were out of college but
Speaker 1: not a pro yet. Not no, no, they were they
Speaker 1: were either overseas or washed up college athletes. So if
Speaker 1: you look at the all the rosters, right, I would
Speaker 1: say most of them, we were compiled of guys who
Speaker 1: played four years in college, maybe a year or two
Speaker 1: overseas at best, and then of working, you know, doing
Speaker 1: regular life. Right, you guys had two championship guys on
Speaker 1: your team. We had. We had pros that were still
Speaker 1: actively playing overseas, like Donny McGrath who played at Providence.
Speaker 1: He had a really good international career. Matt Walsh who
Speaker 1: played at Florida had a really good international career. Are
Speaker 1: like quote unquote worst player who was like actually the
Speaker 1: guy got along with the most. Justin Burrell, he played
Speaker 1: for Saint John's. He then played overseas in Japan. Like
Speaker 1: all these guys were very very Andre Barrett what played
Speaker 1: at Seaton Hall. They were all I remember that, really
Speaker 1: really good basketball players. So when you looked at our
Speaker 1: roster we had, like I think everyone on our roster
Speaker 1: had been to it at least bare minimum and NBA
Speaker 1: training camp, and every other roster didn't have anyone even
Speaker 1: close to them. This is ridiculous. They're pro players though
Speaker 1: pro technically you are. You can't have pros on the team. No,
Speaker 1: I'm a pro. Yeah, this is like some Daniel two.
Speaker 1: What is the kid who was like fifteen years old,
Speaker 1: Daniel monte Monte. Yeah. I don't understand how they could
Speaker 1: play if they were as long as they didn't play
Speaker 1: in the NBA NBA only. Yeah, so they all these
Speaker 1: guys had been in the NBA or were like Dante
Speaker 1: Jones were working an NBA players. You couldn't grab Kevin Durant, correct, correct,
Speaker 1: But you can't know or would he do it, because
Speaker 1: it's obviously the injury risk. You never know in a
Speaker 1: hundred years he could. This is the tournament, that's true,
Speaker 1: This is what we're going on five years. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: That'd be great if Lebron just dominated it in like,
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen years and tried to presend they were
Speaker 1: real rings, which they would be real rings if I
Speaker 1: had won a ring. Whatever, the point of the tournament
Speaker 1: though was essentially they wanted to create a tournament every
Speaker 1: summer where they know they can capture the guys. Like
Speaker 1: if if you talk to any international guy who plays overseas,
Speaker 1: they play basically for nine months and they come back
Speaker 1: for the entire summer. So they're trying to capture those guys,
Speaker 1: and they're trying to capture guys like you and guys
Speaker 1: like me. So we're we were very much the odd
Speaker 1: the odd ducks in this whole thing. But we we
Speaker 1: did provide like a pretty significant benefit to our team
Speaker 1: because we got the fan vote. So that's how it
Speaker 1: all started. I don't got the team the one seed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if they still do
Speaker 1: the fan vote thing. They might have stopped after we
Speaker 1: kind of like broke it. But the first initial tournament
Speaker 1: was set up where it was a big benefit if
Speaker 1: you could get a bunch of people to vote for
Speaker 1: your team, and we were able to do that, like
Speaker 1: we got we got uh, I think we got three
Speaker 1: different jerseys. Everyone else got one. Like all these perks
Speaker 1: that you had alternate jerseys, and we had alternate jerseys
Speaker 1: because we had so many fans and Latin nights jerseys.
Speaker 1: If this was the WNBA, you might get suspended for what. Oh,
Speaker 1: they can't have like private planes, like if it's a
Speaker 1: it's an unfa true. Yeah, we did have an unfair advent.
Speaker 1: Know that's that's kind of ridiculous. Well, let's get back
Speaker 1: into June twenty eighth, twenty fourteen. We'll get back into
Speaker 1: the game. We like to go over pop history, big
Speaker 1: cat things that were going on. What we were doing,
Speaker 1: dicking around having fun during the times of these games
Speaker 1: and when they were played and on this day in America,
Speaker 1: Transformer Age of Extinction was the best movie in the
Speaker 1: box office. Honestly, Which number one was this? What number
Speaker 1: was this? Number? Two? Three? Was this a Wahlberg one?
Speaker 1: I liked it. It was good. Can you guys pull
Speaker 1: up videos while we're doing this show right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You pull up videos right here? No? Yes, give me
Speaker 1: a no what video? Uh? Big cat? Nick fancy fancy
Speaker 1: that's the number one hit right now, that's the number
Speaker 1: at this moment. Yes, yeah, I play that in and out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that this is where you're taking us back to.
Speaker 1: This is when you're in it. I was at fourteen
Speaker 1: where I'm doing a terrible lipt up of the number
Speaker 1: one song in the country. Look for Me, I kind
Speaker 1: of look ripped you look you look strong. I was
Speaker 1: saying that in twenty fourteen, I was watching these videos.
Speaker 1: I don't understand how Dave has gotten skinnier. I know,
Speaker 1: and you've kind of we we got big bone bodies.
Speaker 1: We boned it a little more. Yeah, I mean, blog
Speaker 1: life took a lot out of me. I was when
Speaker 1: I when I entered blog life, I was still doing CrossFit,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it all fell apart and you had kids, kids,
Speaker 1: like one back injury still haven't recovered from. I've recovered
Speaker 1: from the back injury. I just haven't gotten back in
Speaker 1: the gym. But you're still playing I was like eight
Speaker 1: nine years ago. You still play herd. Yeah, you always
Speaker 1: always got to play hurd. It's a great guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this was Yeah, this was early barstool. Like
Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of iterations. You could
Speaker 1: say early barstool was when Dave was doing it solo.
Speaker 1: But this was old school barsol that a lot of
Speaker 1: people appreciated because it was truly like seven or eight
Speaker 1: of us total. Wow. Yeah, ground Floor now that one
Speaker 1: of the biggest companies in sports. Huge. The other thing
Speaker 1: I see is ice bucket challenge? Do you know that
Speaker 1: me and Feidelberg started that? I saw Fidelberg at the
Speaker 1: game in a suit at the championship. He looked like
Speaker 1: a I don't know we did one. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: don't remember people. I think there's been people who got
Speaker 1: mad when I say this out loud. But Pete Fradi's
Speaker 1: who's like, was a friend of Barstool. We went to
Speaker 1: his uh right, yeah, and we he challenged me and
Speaker 1: Feidelberg as the first challenge. Well that was for a
Speaker 1: great cause. Yeah, so that he was. We were the
Speaker 1: first person to do, like to accept the challenge and
Speaker 1: the challenge I can't even remember. I'm sure Hank can
Speaker 1: find it. I probably challenged Dave and like Kevin and
Speaker 1: you know the rest of the Barstool guys. I think
Speaker 1: we were the first athlete to do it. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I think I just said that I was
Speaker 1: the first. You were the first podcast by being in
Speaker 1: this game. Trulian we're doing he's played in sports. We're
Speaker 1: doing one of his games. I forgot, you know, I've
Speaker 1: been hit a few times, Like Big Cat says, memory
Speaker 1: is not good, Sam, Where the fun Where are you?
Speaker 1: Where's my memory? Yeah? It was in college. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: going this is fun though, you guys are this is
Speaker 1: a great like the way you're doing this, because now
Speaker 1: I'm going down memory lane. Remember the Spurs heat That
Speaker 1: was the Lebron Cramp game where the Spurs turned off
Speaker 1: the AC Oh yeah, his competitive advantage. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: was like dying on the sideline. How come we don't
Speaker 1: have her hear anything about the Spurs doing stuff like that?
Speaker 1: Like if if we God forbid as Patriots were to
Speaker 1: do anything like that, there'd be a gate at the
Speaker 1: end of it. But that's actually a fair point. I
Speaker 1: did say. That's actually I did say Spurs are the
Speaker 1: NBA Patriots. I have said that Tracy Tracy, because that
Speaker 1: was right when we did fights and I did the
Speaker 1: the weight loss challenges. She was part of that video.
Speaker 1: That's very funny. She's part of history. You're right, was
Speaker 1: that the only person I challenged? That's funny. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: you're right though, that would be a c gate AC gate. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Gracy Tracy engaged now to who Mojo? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Gracy's the old school. She's part of barstool history. She
Speaker 1: was always she was the best. She would I mean,
Speaker 1: she would always be down for any video. She was
Speaker 1: part of the first rundown. I think too, the first rundown.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize Gracy Tracy was a yeah, yeah, huge Wow.
Speaker 1: Didn't think we'd be going down this path. But here
Speaker 1: we are. Here we are. Andrew Wiggins first pick in
Speaker 1: the Calves draft, traded for Kevin Love yeap worthwhile trade
Speaker 1: and retrospect obviously, and they won to ring. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: although you could argue could they have one multiple? Although
Speaker 1: I love Kevin Love so I'm gonna back him. He's
Speaker 1: my guy. And also wiggans kind He's figured out this year,
Speaker 1: but it took him a while. Yeah, well he figured
Speaker 1: he's he is now getting the benefit of being around
Speaker 1: Steph Curry. It's like Andremond. Sometimes you see players and
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, like are they truly great?
Speaker 1: Or are they just playing with someone else great? That's
Speaker 1: like feeding them the ball? What are you trying to say?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about basketball? Oh, I'm talking about how you
Speaker 1: were talking about, you know, being around great players that
Speaker 1: feed you the ball? Right? Is that a shot? No? No? No,
Speaker 1: is that a shot. No, that's not that's just how
Speaker 1: what I think of Andrew Wiggins on the Warriors. Now, okay, right,
Speaker 1: so like you have to separate, like is he truly
Speaker 1: great or is he just around greatness? It's hard to
Speaker 1: figure out it is. I guess it is. We're all
Speaker 1: just trying to figure it out. We're all just trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out. Sam's like, what the hell is
Speaker 1: going on between these two right now? There's like a
Speaker 1: sexual tension here. It's kind of I want you guys
Speaker 1: to kiss What Julian, what were you doing in twenty fourteen?
Speaker 1: Twenty fourteen? We uh at this time, I think I
Speaker 1: just signed up contract to go back to the Patriots
Speaker 1: and we were in a I believe training camp or
Speaker 1: OTA's preparing for a deep run into the playoffs that
Speaker 1: soon turned into a Super Bowl victory against Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Was that your first big contract, like the big big one?
Speaker 1: That was my first big way? It wasn't a big contract.
Speaker 1: What was it? I think it was like four years,
Speaker 1: nineteen million. I mean, that's still nineteen five, But that
Speaker 1: had to have been the first time where you were
Speaker 1: like I'm good now, not good forever, but like I'm
Speaker 1: I've made enough money now where I can be comfortable.
Speaker 1: I was celebrating. I mean, I never thought I would
Speaker 1: get a contract like that, but you know, coming especially
Speaker 1: coming off of league minimum the year before, signed a
Speaker 1: one year deal, got hurt and bet on yourself, got
Speaker 1: a bet on yourself, and uh, you know, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was like pulling teeth to negotiate with the fucking Patriots.
Speaker 1: It's the absolute fucking worst. I literally had to set
Speaker 1: up a visit to get like two million more to
Speaker 1: go to the Niners, my hometown team, and as soon
Speaker 1: as I got there, they found out. I got there
Speaker 1: and they fucking hit me up and they go, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this is the deal and I'll go, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take this. I'm gonna take this interview. He goes, now,
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna pull this and if you if
Speaker 1: you do or if you don't, if you don't take it,
Speaker 1: by the end of the day, I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck these guys are But I ended up signing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they knew what they were doing. And what did you buy?
Speaker 1: What was the big purchase? I didn't buy shit, really
Speaker 1: really nothing. I bought like a laptop. That's that's such
Speaker 1: a boring big contract. Per No, it actually you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna back you up though, because like obviously
Speaker 1: there's been you know, through the course of barstool like
Speaker 1: where we're at now, I've had moments where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is pretty nice, Like I have money now, and
Speaker 1: I never did buy anything big. It was more like
Speaker 1: I can just pop on Amazon and like like buy
Speaker 1: like seven like not even blank, you know exactly. Or
Speaker 1: take your friends out to dinner. Yeah, I have to
Speaker 1: like cut up the check. Yeah, buy some shoes and
Speaker 1: not feel bad about it. Did you go did you
Speaker 1: do a big dinner the night of Yeah, I had
Speaker 1: a barbecue with my family and friends. Oh that's cheap,
Speaker 1: you know, very cheap, but you know, and then like
Speaker 1: like big Cat said, it was like all right, now
Speaker 1: I can go buy I can spend a thousand dollars
Speaker 1: on shoes, right. It's it's it is a weird like knowing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't you don't like say like, oh, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go buy some big thing. It's more like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: buy all the things that I looked at and was
Speaker 1: like I shouldn't. Yeah, exactly, I have a friend who
Speaker 1: It's like, I have a friend who can't. He struggles
Speaker 1: to make ramp, but he has like four rolexes and
Speaker 1: ship like that one. I'm like, yeah, well you gotta
Speaker 1: you gotta get He's like, well, I can sell these
Speaker 1: any point, Like, but you won't. You like having the rolexes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he can't. I liked. I liked the thought process
Speaker 1: of like I could sell these. I could. Yeah. There
Speaker 1: used to be back in the day when it was like,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, if you have a bad weekend gamble,
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I do have an Xbox I could
Speaker 1: sell anymore. You know Xboxes they go up in value
Speaker 1: every year. That's how they the original Xbox. You've been
Speaker 1: gambling that that long my whole life. I remember you
Speaker 1: remember the Red Ring of Death. Oh my god. I
Speaker 1: hated that. You got to get it refurbished, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you had to get refurbished or you had to
Speaker 1: do tow like the twenty four hour dryer and the towel,
Speaker 1: and then you just break it more and then it
Speaker 1: just ruins the warranty the worst. Yeah, Sam, what were
Speaker 1: you up to? I had just done I think it
Speaker 1: was just doing my first ever late night set. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I still live like it's the nineteen eighties. It's your comedian.
Speaker 1: I'm a comic. Yeah, so tell us a joke. Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I did. I remember my first joke
Speaker 1: on on Conan. It didn't it did not get what
Speaker 1: I wanted. And then you have to fake smile for
Speaker 1: the next four minutes because you don't get that first laugh,
Speaker 1: and you're like, fucking kill me. Yeah, but uh yeah,
Speaker 1: the crowd wasn't hot. Sometimes you get a not hot
Speaker 1: it's five pm in Burbank. Sometimes you get a not
Speaker 1: hot crowd. It's a set. You run into the ground,
Speaker 1: and I remember I didn't. I was miserable for a
Speaker 1: year til I got to go back on and next
Speaker 1: one was killer. Really yeah, but I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I still stand by the joke. But it was a
Speaker 1: tough crowd. Damn. Yeah. That's and to know they do
Speaker 1: tape those before you you weren't like, hey, can we
Speaker 1: cut that? Can we do that again? I didn't know you.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know you could like flub
Speaker 1: a joke and keep I thought it was like, I
Speaker 1: gotta just nail this. I thought it was like ice
Speaker 1: skating or something. But no, but I flubbed the joke
Speaker 1: this year on Cordon and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it again. Like of course, I was like, I
Speaker 1: didn't know you could do that. Oh so you Oh
Speaker 1: that's awesome, you actually did do that. Yeah, I take
Speaker 1: I didn't know you could do that for like eight years.
Speaker 1: Wait so could you? Okay? So and then did people
Speaker 1: laugh more? Yeah? They actually laughed harder. The second you
Speaker 1: think that it's gonna go worse, but the second time, like,
Speaker 1: it's hilarious. He's telling the same joke. Yeah, he just
Speaker 1: changed a couple of words. What an idiot. That's a
Speaker 1: great time. Yeah, yeah, you were up to this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. Yeah, we were blogging. Mentally it was
Speaker 1: mentally good place, I think, and Hank's here he can
Speaker 1: back it up. Like twenty fourteen, I think we were
Speaker 1: right in that zone of things started to feel like
Speaker 1: they were all like getting bigger for barstool, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like things started to slowly feel like, hey,
Speaker 1: we've got you know, the rundown. That's doing well, We've
Speaker 1: got the blog set up. I think we actually around
Speaker 1: this time we went Hank Dave and I went and
Speaker 1: it would I wish we had like film the whole thing.
Speaker 1: We went and took a bunch of meetings in Hollywood
Speaker 1: to try to get the Rundown on TV, and we
Speaker 1: went to every meeting and we walked out and we're
Speaker 1: like we fucking crushed that, Like Comedy Central wants us
Speaker 1: and they want us bad like not we would walk
Speaker 1: out being like should we do like every night? Should
Speaker 1: we do like four nights a week with Comedy Central?
Speaker 1: Like what do you think? We didn't get a single callback,
Speaker 1: not a second. Comedy Central wishes they called you back.
Speaker 1: But it was the funniest like we we were so
Speaker 1: imagine the most like gullible, like green dudes in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: like first time sitting down with these big meetings because
Speaker 1: you know Dave obviously he is a genius businessman, so
Speaker 1: everyone sees that now. But this is a time when
Speaker 1: this is our first step out of our bubble. And
Speaker 1: we thought every single meeting, we're like, oh my, like HBO,
Speaker 1: yeah we sh should we do HBO? Should we do
Speaker 1: Comedy Central? There's pros and cons to both and not
Speaker 1: a single follow up. So I remember we did those
Speaker 1: pitch meetings all the time early in the career, we
Speaker 1: were going around doing the for our a documentary and
Speaker 1: same thing, but I hadn't. I rolled up to a
Speaker 1: pitch meeting, like we had a time, we needed to
Speaker 1: get into this place, and I had my daughter. I
Speaker 1: ended up bringing like my eight month daughter into this
Speaker 1: pitch meeting to pitch Netflix over a fucking something, and
Speaker 1: we thought like, yeah, they liked the kids, Yeah it's
Speaker 1: gonna go. Didn't get the callback either, the one great
Speaker 1: story and you'll like this jewels we went into. I
Speaker 1: want to say, was IHF is that a station? No,
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about that. There is IFC. We
Speaker 1: sit down and we're going through the meeting and they
Speaker 1: said and one of the like executives said something like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're trying not to like do sophomore stuff. Like we
Speaker 1: got pitched like some stupid thing from the Gronks, and
Speaker 1: Dave stopped the meeting. He's like, I love the Gronks.
Speaker 1: The Gronks are our guys, and that was it. It
Speaker 1: was like the most awkward thing ever. But hind clothes
Speaker 1: like he just was like, don't say that about the Gronks,
Speaker 1: and that was it. It's like all of it fucking
Speaker 1: We invited Hank into a couple of meetings. He was
Speaker 1: wearing shorts. He felt so awkward. It was awesome. Well,
Speaker 1: they were like I was just like going to sit
Speaker 1: like I wasn't going in the meetings and I was
Speaker 1: waiting in the waiting room like, oh, come in, and
Speaker 1: I was like getting Jim shorts was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's the brand. Though. The whole thing was just it's
Speaker 1: just such a like it's a very funny time and
Speaker 1: place for Barstool in general, just because of where we
Speaker 1: were and like trying to build something and we thought
Speaker 1: we had arrived, but we hadn't arrived yet, but we
Speaker 1: had that like it was coming soon though. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we had Yeah, they well you're feeling the fans. You're
Speaker 1: feeling the fans and stuff, so they don't know. It
Speaker 1: takes them always a little longer to find out. But
Speaker 1: those pitch meetings are brutal. I mean I remember doing them.
Speaker 1: You walk in, they're like, well, first off, we're huge fans,
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, you own a network and this
Speaker 1: is my fourth time here, right, so you're not a
Speaker 1: huge fans. You're not that big of fans. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the same thing like we were. We just thought
Speaker 1: because we were crushing it on our level, like what
Speaker 1: like in terms of blogs, like recognition, all these things
Speaker 1: were we were doing very well on our level. But
Speaker 1: we we thought like everyone knew us. And then we
Speaker 1: got out there and like no one knew who takes
Speaker 1: It just takes them longer to They're always like two
Speaker 1: years behind. Yeah, they are always a few years behind.
Speaker 1: Let's get into these damn teams. Now, let's get to
Speaker 1: the meat of this whole thing. Team Barstool won their
Speaker 1: first four games of the tournament average margin victory of
Speaker 1: ten and a half points victories. Yeah, we I think
Speaker 1: there was actually three three pretty much blowouts. And then
Speaker 1: we had a very close game against Princeton because they
Speaker 1: ran that stupid backdoor offense where you guys, you guys
Speaker 1: hot at the three. Because I heard a take that
Speaker 1: you like, these games are go out to blowouts because
Speaker 1: either a team's hot on three or not. Were you
Speaker 1: getting hot? You did hear that take? It's a maker
Speaker 1: miss league, maker miss league, just a make or miss league.
Speaker 1: This was a maker miss league. And we had some
Speaker 1: like Donnie McGrath and Matt Walsh were both exceptional three
Speaker 1: point shooters in their college career, in their international career.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we were we were very hot. You also
Speaker 1: had Andre Barrett, went to Seaton Hall, Josh Boone, Yukon,
Speaker 1: Dan Katz, Wisconsin grad Yep, Justin Burrell, a lot of
Speaker 1: good players out of Wisconsin. Yeah. Remember Orlando Tucker. Yeah
Speaker 1: he's actually dead to the program now though, is he. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what happened? He tried to so last year or two
Speaker 1: years ago, he taped Greg Guard having them players only
Speaker 1: meeting with the coach, and he basically tried to frame
Speaker 1: Greg Guard and be like to the ad like I
Speaker 1: should take over. He's lost the team, damn. And they
Speaker 1: found out that he was the one who leaked the tape,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, damn. But yeah, no, I loved went
Speaker 1: to school at the same time I was there. So
Speaker 1: Devin Harris, Alonda Tucker, the Frank Kminsky, Sam Decker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you guys do season two, I'll come and talk
Speaker 1: about the twenty fifteen Wisconsin Duke Final and will be
Speaker 1: the most watched episode by far. They will because people
Speaker 1: just lot like they just it's a big school and
Speaker 1: they shot back to school. Back to school by any
Speaker 1: danger for the Classic at Wisconsin. Have you ever been
Speaker 1: to Madison? Have never been a Madison. It's a great place.
Speaker 1: I've heard where they got like the little don't they
Speaker 1: do like a jump in the water for something or No,
Speaker 1: that's Ohio State. Oh yeah, Madison's a great city. Way
Speaker 1: off on that one comedy on State. Maybe the best
Speaker 1: comedy club in the country Madison, Wisconsin. Yeah, phenomenal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to just point out something real quick. This
Speaker 1: is kind of like a foreshadowing if you scroll up again.
Speaker 1: So if you notice, so Justin Burrell also was on
Speaker 1: the team. But if you notice we have six, six
Speaker 1: guys and then Dave and myself. Five guys play in
Speaker 1: a basketball game. Might have been a concern later on
Speaker 1: in the game, literallylater on in the turn. NBA teams
Speaker 1: usually at least an eight man rotation. Yeah, we had
Speaker 1: one guy off the bench. So yeah, you guys didn't
Speaker 1: see a lot of minutes. We saw some we went.
Speaker 1: I was in the barstool Philly game. Let's see. Have
Speaker 1: my stats are right there? Three points, one for five,
Speaker 1: three rebounds to assist. I mean I'm getting dirty and Philly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is that? If I played what's the peer of that, Like,
Speaker 1: if I played, Let's say I played thirty five minutes seventh,
Speaker 1: wait six times? Someone do some maths for me. What
Speaker 1: would I have? The box score has it at a four?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? It says per four four? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what Pierre means. But Dave's Dames negative too.
Speaker 1: Dave's negative too. I always trust peer. I think it's
Speaker 1: the smartest stat out there. I love Pew. How is
Speaker 1: Dave because I see a lot of clips and he's
Speaker 1: got the most unorthodox form I've ever seen. But they're
Speaker 1: going in, yes, they yeah, he does have an unorthodox form.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm looking right now. If I played thirty
Speaker 1: six minutes, I'd have eighteen points, eighteen rebounds and twelve assists.
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, that's a triple double. If I checked,
Speaker 1: if my grandma had balls, she'd be my grandpa. Let's
Speaker 1: get over these Notre Dame Fighting Irish alumni squad. Who
Speaker 1: do we have over there? Sam? Uh? Well, we got
Speaker 1: Chris Thomas, Russell, Carter Tyrone, Nash Rob Kerrz, Ryan Ayres,
Speaker 1: and Torn Francis who will be joining us. We're getting
Speaker 1: one from the squad winning Chris Thomas by the way,
Speaker 1: I remember him. That's the thing. Like this team is
Speaker 1: players that played at Notre Dame that are obviously good
Speaker 1: back small players, but they didn't play They have chemistry,
Speaker 1: they all played under the same coach of Mike Bray,
Speaker 1: but they didn't play at that next level. You know,
Speaker 1: they didn't play significant careers overseas and in the NBA.
Speaker 1: So you can take them going in. We're gonna crash.
Speaker 1: We're gonna smash them. You serious, We're smash them things.
Speaker 1: We remember. You guys had cool jerseys, very cool. It
Speaker 1: looked like space jams out there a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Purple Starfish. It was we and we had alternates
Speaker 1: and I think I still have one of my jerseys,
Speaker 1: which is like rare for me to hold on to
Speaker 1: something after I sell everything every few months from my pile.
Speaker 1: But yeah, those were very very cool jerseys. I think
Speaker 1: we had our own custom Uh what do we have?
Speaker 1: Sandals and stuff and like all these yes slides that
Speaker 1: was part of the fan vote perk. We were we
Speaker 1: were living large. This is like a this is like
Speaker 1: a this is basically like go into a bowl game. Yes, yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: and we got all the we went to all the
Speaker 1: Bowl games at once, Like if we went to all
Speaker 1: the bowl games that collected all the prizes, what was
Speaker 1: the best thing you guys got. I mean the jerseys
Speaker 1: were sick, the slides were sick. I think we had
Speaker 1: better hotels. I think like there was even that level
Speaker 1: we were staying, like the four seasons and stuff. Four seasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's a pricey hotel. Yeah, but I think we
Speaker 1: got like the best accommodations as well, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And well we were the first first four games were
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. So were the championship you guys picked in Boston? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that was that was the biggest perk was if
Speaker 1: you get the number one seed in the fan vote,
Speaker 1: you get to pick where the championship has taking place.
Speaker 1: Where was the game at, like where it was it
Speaker 1: was the bu Gym. And the big thing was because
Speaker 1: of like our popularity at the time, we knew that
Speaker 1: we could actually have a true home environment and fill
Speaker 1: the place with our fans, which we did. So that
Speaker 1: was like a huge ace in r you know, or
Speaker 1: was a ace up your sleeve where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go play this championship game there Throughout this
Speaker 1: entire tournament, there's basically been no fans, but then we're
Speaker 1: gonna show up to be you and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: all fans, Notre Dame. When they see this. It was
Speaker 1: pretty loud and it was like we pass out shirts
Speaker 1: and we had everyone chanting. So it was a true
Speaker 1: home like a home game for us. Yeah. That it
Speaker 1: kind of it reminds me of like I don't know
Speaker 1: why I just popped in my head. This This whole
Speaker 1: thing reminds me of like you guys had great temmunity,
Speaker 1: has a great uniforms. It reminds me of like when
Speaker 1: Houston came to our house in the divisional round and
Speaker 1: they all had like letterman jacket Jackie. That's kind of
Speaker 1: the vibes I got from this whole thing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say we were the tightest team. They kind of
Speaker 1: the rest of the team was kind of like, why
Speaker 1: are these guys here? Yeah, because they were tired. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and Matt Walsh was like, no, they're cool, Like it's okay, cool,
Speaker 1: like we candle line, but they're cool. I ended up
Speaker 1: becoming good friends with Donnie McGrath and Justin Burrell, but
Speaker 1: like Josh Boone, Dante Jones. Like I remember actually vividly
Speaker 1: before the final game, we were at a Starbucks and
Speaker 1: I was like going to pick up a coffee and
Speaker 1: Dante Jones was there, and a girl came up and
Speaker 1: asked for my picture, and then Dante Jones was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: so you guys actually do have fans, and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not like complete shitheads. So the coach hated me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good question, Hank. So I didn't get a lot of
Speaker 1: playing time because the coach didn't like you. Well, clearly,
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say was it's a chicken or
Speaker 1: egg because I didn't get a lot of playing times.
Speaker 1: So I always went really hard in warm ups and
Speaker 1: he got very mad at me. He was like, you're
Speaker 1: going to injure someone because I was like boxing out
Speaker 1: because like, dude, I want to get a sweat in it.
Speaker 1: I want to feel like I participated here. So warm
Speaker 1: ups I was like setting picks, throw like boxing people
Speaker 1: out like a couple, trying to block shots, taking charges,
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and he got very upset. Did you
Speaker 1: guys line up and do the weave? And shit, we did, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did all that stuff. That's the last thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were there. He was. He hated me though, I was.
Speaker 1: I was definitely the the problem child on the team.
Speaker 1: Was there a point where you thought you'd get into
Speaker 1: that final game? I told him. I was like, I
Speaker 1: got some minutes if you need me, like, I'll get
Speaker 1: in there and I can at least give us a
Speaker 1: break and just start hacking people. But I think it
Speaker 1: was pretty clear we weren't going to get in anything
Speaker 1: for the team. Yeah, anything for the team. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was There were definitely moments we could talk about
Speaker 1: after the game, but like before the game, during the tournament,
Speaker 1: where you know there's a feeling Jewels, this never happened
Speaker 1: to you because you played. But like when you're in
Speaker 1: the locker room after and everyone's played and you haven't,
Speaker 1: it hurts a little. Twenty eleven Super Bowl, I didn't
Speaker 1: play that much. You didn't know. I wasn't kickoff and
Speaker 1: that was a tough l right lost. Yeah, then we
Speaker 1: lose that game, so like and then you come in
Speaker 1: after and everyone's like tired, spent. I literally saw Matt
Speaker 1: light in the shower and I was like, all right, buddy,
Speaker 1: because he played a rough one. He just looked at
Speaker 1: me and said I just retired, buddy, oh wow, And
Speaker 1: so like I didn't play, I didn't barely have worked
Speaker 1: up a sweat. See your comrades out there, it's a
Speaker 1: tough feeling to be around everyone else when you didn't
Speaker 1: contribute enough to the team. It's like when you get
Speaker 1: hurt and you're in the locker room. Yeah, guys just
Speaker 1: come in from like a hundred degree day. They work
Speaker 1: their fucking ass off, their sweating. Guys are like cramped
Speaker 1: up on ivs. You just did an hour of fucking
Speaker 1: pool work. And guys are looking at you like are
Speaker 1: you really hurt? Right right? And they're looking at us
Speaker 1: like why are you taking up roster spots? We could
Speaker 1: use a little depth here. Did either you or Dave
Speaker 1: look at each other like maybe one of us should
Speaker 1: should replay, get replaced with like an x NBA player. Well,
Speaker 1: we actually had a couple. Shavelk Randolph, who I think
Speaker 1: you guys might remember that name. He played to Duke
Speaker 1: and then Quincy Acy who played at play for the
Speaker 1: Knicks played for the Knicks, played a Baylor I want
Speaker 1: to say, or no, and that's a glue guy. You
Speaker 1: could have used a tough guy like that they were
Speaker 1: originally on the roster and they weren't able to make
Speaker 1: it because their international teams went deep into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there was some times where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: it would be nice we had a couple more guys,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wish I could have helped. I wish
Speaker 1: I could help more. But I did remember when I say,
Speaker 1: eighteen eighteen and twelve, that's pretty good. It was pretty
Speaker 1: it was pretty decent. Let's get to the gaming corner
Speaker 1: presented by wind bet, which brings us to the betting corner.
Speaker 1: Let's get to the gaming corner presented by win bet.
Speaker 1: Relevant betting lines. We can't explain that. Don't really know.
Speaker 1: I think there might have been a line on this.
Speaker 1: Was there a line? Who what bookies were taking this?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would imagine wasn't legal yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would imagine we were favorites. We were definitely favorites.
Speaker 1: If like, if if you had asked for a line,
Speaker 1: if it was being played today, I would have said,
Speaker 1: they probably would have made us like five point favorites,
Speaker 1: four and a half point favorites, something like that or
Speaker 1: something over over a possession, because we were we had
Speaker 1: the name recognition, We had the home court, so I
Speaker 1: would say it would be around there. Portnoy's prediction was
Speaker 1: seventy seven forty barstool. Yep, big Kat, you said if
Speaker 1: you were a gambling man, you would put twenty five
Speaker 1: k on barstool, So yeah, I am a gambling man,
Speaker 1: and I kind of did because I needed this money
Speaker 1: for pass gambling. So that's so I already had a
Speaker 1: bet on this game because I really needed this money.
Speaker 1: So how much did you put down in this game?
Speaker 1: Nothing but I but everything? If you get my drift
Speaker 1: I needed. I needed the twenty five k to pay
Speaker 1: for the twenty five k that ID already lost on
Speaker 1: other things. What what? What game? Sports games? Every game
Speaker 1: name a game. I mean, this is what this is.
Speaker 1: This is right after March Madness, NBA playoffs and the
Speaker 1: worst time the June is the worst time of the
Speaker 1: year because it's September all the way through June. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that is where I needed the reset button, and
Speaker 1: this was my reset button. This was gonna be my
Speaker 1: hit the reset button. I'm good. What do you say? HEYK?
Speaker 1: And they lost yep, yeah, we were out in LA
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. Yeah that sucked. So they won that though,
Speaker 1: didn't they? No, they lost that year twenty fourteen, they
Speaker 1: lost twenty and fifteen. They won fifteen, Which brings us
Speaker 1: to the point, all our listeners, you guys always bet responsibly.
Speaker 1: Don't use this right. Don't be caught in a game
Speaker 1: where it's don't be twenty five dollars if you win,
Speaker 1: nothing if you lose and you already owe twenty five thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see. I always hear, like real Richmond say, you
Speaker 1: can't be out leverage, you can't be out leveraged. Yeah, right, responsibly,
Speaker 1: responsibly responsible, So the opposite of what I did. Correct,
Speaker 1: All right, I'm not a role model. Now we have
Speaker 1: this prop bet thing where when we do interviews we
Speaker 1: come up with some kind of stupid funny thing, kind
Speaker 1: of like super Troopers, the mew thing. How many times
Speaker 1: can we get it off we put an over under,
Speaker 1: or how many times we get an uh interviewee to
Speaker 1: say something one of our guests. What should we come
Speaker 1: up with with the for torn Torrin? What should we
Speaker 1: throw in? I mean, I hate this guy. I don't
Speaker 1: even know him. I just hate him. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I think something negative would be good. I think
Speaker 1: how many times, Big Cat, I can say I hate you. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm just gonna yeah, I'll just say hate him,
Speaker 1: hate Notre Dame. Yeah yeah yeah. But can we hit that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm saying four and a half. We can hit you
Speaker 1: can get hit five? Yeah? Easy? All right, easy, all right.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from old Torn. But before then, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break, and we're joined here by our guest,
Speaker 1: Torn Francis, a Boston guy, played Notre Dame South Bend
Speaker 1: from O two to so Big Cat's probably not gonna
Speaker 1: be happy with him, not just because of this loss,
Speaker 1: because he also hates Notre Dame. Former McDonald's all American.
Speaker 1: He had turned pro when he turned seventeen years old.
Speaker 1: What a stud played currently playing in Argentina? Do they
Speaker 1: do they pronounce the l's different. I heard it's ka
Speaker 1: not kaye. Yeah, that's the genre, that's that's the type
Speaker 1: of Spanish it is, that's the dialect. That's the dialect.
Speaker 1: I got an Argentinian friend. Well, Julian, you left out
Speaker 1: a big one. He's the winner of the first ever
Speaker 1: the basketball tournament, the first can't leave that out very first.
Speaker 1: First off, what the fuck are you doing playing in
Speaker 1: this game? Why not? Why not? That's a competitor, huh.
Speaker 1: I mean Notre Dame. My brothers came together to win it,
Speaker 1: and we got it done. I mean, you got it
Speaker 1: all right, So I mean I hate you obviously, and
Speaker 1: I hate Notre Dame. I'll just get that out of
Speaker 1: the way. I really hate you guys. Ah what you
Speaker 1: guys should have lost that game, like you're not. We
Speaker 1: were better than you, no better on paper, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you were a better teams respect what Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, what was your second half game plan?
Speaker 1: Because it clearly changed and we just missed shots? Like,
Speaker 1: you guys didn't even win. We just missed shots. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's that's the defense. You know. You didn't miss shots.
Speaker 1: We made you guys miss shots from the defense we
Speaker 1: were playing. So that was our that was our game
Speaker 1: plan second half. Just shurn up the defense and we
Speaker 1: weren't going to have a problem offensively, and so we
Speaker 1: got it done. Like, you go into this game, and
Speaker 1: you guys definitely probably had a scouting department, you know,
Speaker 1: being the champions of this thing, with the resources that
Speaker 1: you guys probably had, with the scouting tape, you saw
Speaker 1: that there was six viable, really good guys, and you
Speaker 1: saw these two other guys that were like player coach
Speaker 1: or whatever they want to call their theirselves. Hey, Bill
Speaker 1: Russell as a player coach. Bill Russell was a player coach.
Speaker 1: But like, did you guys know in the like in
Speaker 1: your heart at the beginning of the game, you guys
Speaker 1: want to blow these fools out or it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a close game of what was going on? Listen,
Speaker 1: every time, every step, every time we step on the court,
Speaker 1: we're going to win. It doesn't matter who the other
Speaker 1: team had. You know, we're in the same position as
Speaker 1: they were in the finals with them, So you know,
Speaker 1: for us, it was a it was an even playing field.
Speaker 1: And I just think that we had we have actually
Speaker 1: played together, you know, obviously it had been at different
Speaker 1: times throughout our careers, but we had played together. We're
Speaker 1: familiar with each other, so I think we actually had
Speaker 1: the advantage. How about a seven game series? Who takes this?
Speaker 1: Oh easily? Us easily? I have you guys got lucky
Speaker 1: for one game and and you know, tip your hat
Speaker 1: to you for that. I like I said, I hate
Speaker 1: you guys, but I'll tip my hat you got lucky
Speaker 1: for one game. I don't think if you play seven
Speaker 1: game series, I think real talent wins. Out. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, did you see my stat line from
Speaker 1: the game against Philly where you like, this guy might
Speaker 1: get in and he might have some minutes in him
Speaker 1: because I had we did the math. If I played
Speaker 1: thirty six minutes in that game, I would add eighteen,
Speaker 1: eighteen and twelve. So how many minutes did you play?
Speaker 1: And what'd you have? I played three minutes, I had three,
Speaker 1: three and two. But it just, I mean, you got
Speaker 1: you had to see us and be like, who knows
Speaker 1: ultimate wild card? Everyone else knows? Everyone else here? Who
Speaker 1: are these two guys at the end of the bench. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but sometimes you have to remember it's only one basketball.
Speaker 1: So sure, yeah you had you know, Dina McGrath, Josh Boone,
Speaker 1: Dante Jones, you know, you had all the names, but
Speaker 1: there's still only one basketball. We see it, We see
Speaker 1: it even today everywhere. You know, look at the Lakers,
Speaker 1: look at the nets. You know, just it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who you have on the roster necessarily, it's all about
Speaker 1: who comes to play at that particular moment, you know,
Speaker 1: And so I would have to disagree with you. I
Speaker 1: know we'll still win in a seven game series. Nah. Nah,
Speaker 1: what do you think that we suffered from no bench depth?
Speaker 1: I think so you guys were tired, you know, I
Speaker 1: had I was not tired by the end of the game.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that I still had some
Speaker 1: legs in me. But yeah, I mean having six guys
Speaker 1: it hurt. It hurt us at the end when we
Speaker 1: couldn't felt like the jump shots weren't getting made. It's
Speaker 1: a make or miss league, and that's all part of
Speaker 1: the game. You have to take all that into account.
Speaker 1: How meaningful does this win for you? It was great?
Speaker 1: It was It was great, you know, partly because a
Speaker 1: lot of the other guys that are actually I work
Speaker 1: out with them during the summer, you know, and so
Speaker 1: those are guys I see on a daily basis. So
Speaker 1: that was good there. And then you know, just to
Speaker 1: come together with my brothers win the very first championship,
Speaker 1: you know, so we go down in history as a
Speaker 1: as a as a first winners, and it was just
Speaker 1: a great time for us to get together and catch up. Torn.
Speaker 1: It's forty thirty five team Barstool at Half, who were
Speaker 1: the raw Rock guys in the locker room. What were
Speaker 1: you guys saying. I know you guys weren't down a lot,
Speaker 1: but you know, you guys clearly made some halftime adjustments
Speaker 1: that Team Barstool did not do to come out on
Speaker 1: top at the end. What sparked that? Yeah, Well, you know,
Speaker 1: we all came together in the locker We all came together.
Speaker 1: You know, Chris Thomas was obviously running the point, you know,
Speaker 1: so I remember he basically gave us that presence in
Speaker 1: the locker room saying, we just have to go out
Speaker 1: and do it, you know, And so that's what we did.
Speaker 1: We all came together. Well, we were all vocal, so
Speaker 1: we all had an equal part in getting it done.
Speaker 1: I hate you, That's all I gotta say. I don't hate,
Speaker 1: don't hate. Yeah, I mean you guys whatever, listen. I
Speaker 1: don't want to point fingers because I'm a good teammate.
Speaker 1: But if Matt Walsh just hit like one more three,
Speaker 1: we would have been fine. But he just decided to
Speaker 1: go as cold as cold could be. He and Donnie
Speaker 1: like just missed everything. I mean, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I think any loser can say that if we would
Speaker 1: have done this, we would have won, you know, So
Speaker 1: that's that hurt. That hurt what he just said. But
Speaker 1: he's right, he's completely right. He's now for you, big
Speaker 1: We've all done it. Yeah, we've all done it now,
Speaker 1: big Cat. When did you guys start to panic? I
Speaker 1: think it was so it was like without five minutes left,
Speaker 1: it was back and forth and there was it was
Speaker 1: like basically a one possession game, and then it became
Speaker 1: a two possession game. I think it might have been
Speaker 1: like an Andre Barrett turnover something. I remember. The two
Speaker 1: things I remember from the end of the game was
Speaker 1: Matt walshon Donni McGrath sucked and couldn't hit anything, not
Speaker 1: to point fingers. And then you guys had really good
Speaker 1: pressure on Andre Barrett coming up the court and we
Speaker 1: were able to force a couple turnovers because he had to.
Speaker 1: He had to basically do it all in terms of
Speaker 1: dribbling the ball and being the point guard for the
Speaker 1: entire game. And I remember that happening and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: we might be in trouble here, and that's what I said.
Speaker 1: It was. It came down to the defense second half.
Speaker 1: I think that's really what what separated us. And obviously
Speaker 1: gave us that that boost that we needed to get it,
Speaker 1: get the win. Torn Like, after you guys win this,
Speaker 1: I mean this is the first annual, the first of
Speaker 1: the annual tournament. Like, would you guys do to celebrate
Speaker 1: with all that money? Oh, we went out. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm from Boston, so we already had the table set
Speaker 1: up at the club win or lose, you know, so
Speaker 1: obviously it was much better that we won. So we
Speaker 1: went out, celebrated and just hung out. Now you know,
Speaker 1: I've played in super Bowls where you lose and you
Speaker 1: still have like a post party, Like, did you guys?
Speaker 1: Clearly did you guys? We did go out. We did
Speaker 1: go out. We got I was locked up. We didn't
Speaker 1: go to the club. Dave had a whole setup. He
Speaker 1: Dave was actually he was ready to spend every single
Speaker 1: dollar that we wont, like twenty five thousand dollars on
Speaker 1: just that night. He was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see if I can spend all the money on just tonight.
Speaker 1: So then when we lost, we canceled all that and
Speaker 1: just went out regularly. And it sucked. You hit like
Speaker 1: an old timey pub or something. This energy Hank Hank
Speaker 1: was I think I went. Yeah, I think me and
Speaker 1: Feidelberg and Matt Walsh went out, and yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It sucked though, because Dave really was like before the game,
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm I don't want to walk away
Speaker 1: with a dollar after this, Like I want twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to spend it all on tonight. Now, you
Speaker 1: guys didn't spend all your money that night? Would you? Guys?
Speaker 1: Would you do you buy a loved one in a
Speaker 1: little something or you buy a little devil's lettuce and
Speaker 1: Grampa's old cough medicine. What did you do? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we didn't spend that night. I told you we
Speaker 1: already had. I think we went to the venue. Actually
Speaker 1: we had a table over there. And as far as
Speaker 1: my winnings, I think I that just wanted that just
Speaker 1: went into investments. I believe from what I remember, boring
Speaker 1: was boring. That's what I'm saying. That's why I hate
Speaker 1: you guys, because you guys didn't. You weren't gonna do
Speaker 1: anything fun with it. I was gonna do something fun
Speaker 1: with it. That's not what you want to hear. If
Speaker 1: from winning a championship, mutual fun, Yeah, it was financially
Speaker 1: responsible with my winnings. Dude, I have four kids. You
Speaker 1: have kids. I'm a father too. I'm a father of one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know this is we got the kid game here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we played kid game all day. I hate you. Now.
Speaker 1: Did we miss anything? Is there anything that you remember
Speaker 1: in this game? Any any like elbows or any faces
Speaker 1: from you know, guys that were sitting on the bench
Speaker 1: from the other team, or any antics or no. So
Speaker 1: I just remember that it got loud. I'm from Boston,
Speaker 1: so I had a ton of people there, and then
Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame. We just had a ton of
Speaker 1: fans there in general, you know. So it got loud
Speaker 1: and the fans were actually jumping up and down and
Speaker 1: the floor was shaking. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember that you're on the bench. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember that that did not happen. You
Speaker 1: did not have that many fans there. That's just a lie.
Speaker 1: The floor was literally shaking. What percentage would you say
Speaker 1: was there for barstool and who is Notre Dame people
Speaker 1: in there? Torrent it was I would probably say it
Speaker 1: was fifty to fifty. Oh my god, this is I
Speaker 1: mean I have Hey, you're shaking his head too, that's
Speaker 1: a complete line. I do remember there was a pocket
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame fans, so I'll give you that. Like
Speaker 1: I would say, there was probably maybe twenty percent Notre
Speaker 1: Dame fans. Maybe we appreciate the truth though, because you know,
Speaker 1: people over in this area that were sitting we were
Speaker 1: saying that it was like one hundred percent one. I
Speaker 1: mean it might have it was closer to one hundred
Speaker 1: percent than fifty to fifty. And you know that. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I mean I would say, I don't remember exactly, but
Speaker 1: I just remember our fans. Maybe that's why because they
Speaker 1: were showing us love. Obviously your fans, you guys were losing,
Speaker 1: so they were quiet, so there was there wasn't really
Speaker 1: a fan presence there, So I'm just going from what
Speaker 1: I remember. It was also bullshit that you brought Mike
Speaker 1: Bray there, because, like I'm I'm convinced he went in
Speaker 1: the locker room at halftime and coach you guys, Like
Speaker 1: I know that that way, I know that happened. I
Speaker 1: saw him. He was wearing a stupid mock turtleneck and
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy, he's they're cheating, They're using
Speaker 1: a coach. It's bullshit. I got a question, what do
Speaker 1: you think would have happened? What do you think would
Speaker 1: have happened? If Dave or Big Cat got into the
Speaker 1: game with some fresh legs out there fourth quarter? Maybe
Speaker 1: they bring some energy. What do you think would the outcome?
Speaker 1: Are indifferent? I think we would have won my more. Actually,
Speaker 1: just because you would have got you would have gotten
Speaker 1: you were I would have fouled out, and I would
Speaker 1: have made sure that you had to be on the
Speaker 1: free throw line. What are you percentage wise free throw shooter?
Speaker 1: I'm around seventy percent. That's terrible. Yeah, it is it?
Speaker 1: Actually is it? Actually? Is? There we go now, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm back right. I found something. I would
Speaker 1: have hacked you, and then you would have made roughly
Speaker 1: seventy percent of your free throws. Yeah, nah, I'm good.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually not playing anymore. So I stopped playing.
Speaker 1: I stopped playing for about a year now. Oh that's funny,
Speaker 1: because I still am playing. Looks like my career lasted
Speaker 1: longer than yours. But it's like riding a bike when
Speaker 1: I step on the court. Is you know, it's nothing lost.
Speaker 1: I'm just not. I'm just not playing. Why do you
Speaker 1: stop playing? Why? Just because I played fifteen years and
Speaker 1: with the pandemic and everything, you know, all the money
Speaker 1: was down. So I said, now now it's probably a
Speaker 1: good time to transition into life after basketball. I got
Speaker 1: a question, So you played overseas. Is it true that
Speaker 1: all the guys who play overseas never pay taxes? No,
Speaker 1: that's not true. So when you when you're actually be
Speaker 1: paying taxes. So when you play overseaser, you have to
Speaker 1: pay taxes in the country you're playing in, and so
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay taxes twice, you know, from
Speaker 1: from playing one in one country to paying here the
Speaker 1: federal taxes. Plus you have a tax exemption when you're
Speaker 1: working abroad, you know, and so most of the time
Speaker 1: the federal taxes were exempts. It was just primarily the
Speaker 1: state taxes that you have to pay for, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever property or whatever you own. Yeah, I heard you
Speaker 1: just never those guys never paid taxes. So just I'm
Speaker 1: just putting it out there. Not anyone from the irs
Speaker 1: is listening. He's going he's going long game victory. If
Speaker 1: you can get just one of you in jail, Sure
Speaker 1: he pay tax and the whole team Notre Dame gets
Speaker 1: audited for twenty fourteen. I'd appreciate that. Taxes on my money.
Speaker 1: I won too, tourn Did we miss anything, Nah, No,
Speaker 1: I mean it was you know, it was a great
Speaker 1: It was especially for the first the first year, it
Speaker 1: was amazing. It was a great experience. You know. Me,
Speaker 1: Donnie's actually one of my best friends, so we still
Speaker 1: talk about that to this day. But it was it
Speaker 1: was a great time. Unfortunately we could have win the
Speaker 1: next year, but it was still it was still a
Speaker 1: great time touring. Just remember, no one remembers second place.
Speaker 1: You will always be remembered for being the first tournament
Speaker 1: winner of this immaculate tournament that is continuing five consecutive,
Speaker 1: six consecutive years. Now, one hundred years down the road,
Speaker 1: we could be talking about this being the first one.
Speaker 1: We thank you for coming on and joining us. And
Speaker 1: it was great to hear the perspective from you know,
Speaker 1: the winning squad. We we sat here for you know,
Speaker 1: good thirty five to forty minutes and talked with the
Speaker 1: team barstool and they gave us their perspective. It's always
Speaker 1: good to hear a winning perspective coming from you know
Speaker 1: winning environment in Boston that I know you're from, So
Speaker 1: thank you again for joining us. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Let me know, if you guys want to picture of
Speaker 1: me holding that big check you didn't pay taxes on,
Speaker 1: send it over for you. Definitely we'll have to get that.
Speaker 1: And uh we're gonna send you in insane gift basket
Speaker 1: that I heard that team Barstool had some you know,
Speaker 1: they had a lot of resources and it probably a
Speaker 1: lot of advantages. So we're gonna try to take care
Speaker 1: of you on that. And uh, appreciate you coming on, Bubbs,
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Thanks man, still hate you and
Speaker 1: Notre Dame thanks to Wow you could still feel the
Speaker 1: heat between the two competitors. I mean, what a champion.
Speaker 1: He was just a true gentleman. I mean that was
Speaker 1: he was great, not a starter. It came off the
Speaker 1: bench just like me. I mean, the only difference is
Speaker 1: he actually played I didn't whatever. I mean, six MANI
Speaker 1: of a Year award like that's he's a huge part
Speaker 1: of the team. Will always remember the Jamal Crawford of
Speaker 1: the tournament here. Yeah yeah, I mean I he said
Speaker 1: everything that I already know deep down, like when it
Speaker 1: came to that game. It was a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: who are really talented versus a bunch of guys who
Speaker 1: played in the exact same system in college and knew,
Speaker 1: you know, how to run the same offense, how to
Speaker 1: play team defense. That's what killed us. Chemistry over talent. Yep.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like when the Team USA teams come
Speaker 1: together and they go against like Spain or something. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough to build chemistry. Actually, the way
Speaker 1: we really should think about it is we went to
Speaker 1: the finals and we were leading at halftime. We built chemistry.
Speaker 1: Dave and I built chemistry on that team in like
Speaker 1: a matter of two weeks. So that's really how you
Speaker 1: should look at it. So then technically, the next time
Speaker 1: you guys play, you guys should be able to take
Speaker 1: it easy. So when it is it gonna happen, are
Speaker 1: you gonna get a team together? No, we've retired, we've
Speaker 1: banned ourselves from TBT, but the prize has gone up.
Speaker 1: I think we do one last ride. No no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no. They they refuse to let me sing the
Speaker 1: national anthem at the championship games, so they're dead to us.
Speaker 1: That's true, have you done any national anthems? I have
Speaker 1: done many national anthems where ruff and rowdy, Wendy City,
Speaker 1: thunderbolts in Chicago. What else? No Cubs, Jack Jack's trying
Speaker 1: to We got a little bit of breaking news on
Speaker 1: the subject from the head of the TBT, John Muger
Speaker 1: Mugar Mugar Okay. In an email to Games with Names.
Speaker 1: He said that game was also notable because it initiated
Speaker 1: a now eight year ban on TBT by Barstool. Portnoy
Speaker 1: asked to sing the national anthem before the game and
Speaker 1: was denied, so they never entered a team again. When
Speaker 1: TBT has come up over the years on their podcasts,
Speaker 1: both Big Cat and Portnoy have said things like, quote
Speaker 1: they're dead to us end quote, we don't talk about TBT,
Speaker 1: so it's good to hear Big Cats willing to talk
Speaker 1: about it. Well, this is the first step to maybe
Speaker 1: you guys going back revisiting. Yeah, well no, that's a no,
Speaker 1: because I'm actually looking it up right now. Let's see
Speaker 1: from twenty fifteen, he wrote me this, I think the
Speaker 1: last time I talked to me, said Dave calling me
Speaker 1: a cocksucker on the rundown really sucks. I didn't want
Speaker 1: you to sing the anthem because I wanted to set
Speaker 1: a different tone for the championship game. It's that simple.
Speaker 1: I appreciated your involvement, still do, and I know it
Speaker 1: led to a great atmosphere for the final. I still
Speaker 1: don't agree with his like day. Basically, we packed a house,
Speaker 1: we got a bunch of people tuned in. All we
Speaker 1: wanted to do was the anthem. They wouldn't let us
Speaker 1: do it. He didn't play any points they could have,
Speaker 1: or you didn't play any minutes so you could at
Speaker 1: least got the anthem in right, And from our perspective,
Speaker 1: it's like, you're gonna use this in sizzle reels. We
Speaker 1: helped you initially, like you're starting out and everything. Let
Speaker 1: us sing the anthem. So yeah, I think the band
Speaker 1: is still there. Did Tebu sang the anthem? Ah? Some
Speaker 1: no names? One I don't know, probably sucked. I don't really.
Speaker 1: I think I I mightn't. I might have neelt. I
Speaker 1: might I might have been kneeling for the anthem because
Speaker 1: of that. Imagine if we went back and I was
Speaker 1: the first one to kneel. But it was completely selfish
Speaker 1: reason that it was like I'm just kneeling because I'm
Speaker 1: a big man child who's Maddie can't sing the anthem? Jack?
Speaker 1: Did we settle that prop? Bet? Oh? He crushed Oh
Speaker 1: we crushed it. Yeah. Seven hates Yeah, he hate me.
Speaker 1: I don't even hate that guy, to be honest. He
Speaker 1: seemed like a good guy. Yeah, he seemed like a
Speaker 1: good guy. And if he's friends with Donnie, that's the
Speaker 1: thing is at the end of the day, we lost
Speaker 1: the game, but I made lifelong friends in Donnie McGrath,
Speaker 1: Matt Walsh, Justin Burrell. I think that's about it. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't what mall Yeah from Rory and Mal you know
Speaker 1: Mal from uh what was it from the Joe Budden
Speaker 1: podcast kicked off? No, he's he was part of the
Speaker 1: Joe Budden podcast. He's now a very famous podcaster with Rory.
Speaker 1: He was on the sideline with us, he was on
Speaker 1: the bench with us because he's good friends with Andre Barrett,
Speaker 1: so lifelong friends. I don't know if Dante Jones would
Speaker 1: ever pick up my call if I if I track
Speaker 1: down his number, I don't think he'd recognized me either.
Speaker 1: Yeah one with the Cavs. Couldn't couldn't lift you guys up.
Speaker 1: I know, I know that's kind, but you know what,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like when he wins
Speaker 1: the NBA title in twenty sixteen, it felt like all
Speaker 1: of us won one. Sure because you play you shared
Speaker 1: a court with, right. Do you think he would have
Speaker 1: traded that one and have won with you guys? Probably
Speaker 1: if you ask him for real. Yeah, probably at that
Speaker 1: time because he wasn't in the NBA. He needed the money.
Speaker 1: So there it is. And I defended him. I was
Speaker 1: the enforcer on the team. I defended him earlier in
Speaker 1: the tournament with a brew haha. So what are you
Speaker 1: gonna do? I always have his back. But if he
Speaker 1: goes out and wins this, maybe he doesn't get that,
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't have the fire. Maybe Lebron never wins
Speaker 1: a title in Cleveland. Yeah so if so, I basically
Speaker 1: screwed myself. You screwed yourself. Butterfly effect. Damn, that's brutal.
Speaker 1: This game directly affected Cleveland's first and only championship. It's crazy. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's how important. Cleveland should thank you. Cleveland should thank
Speaker 1: me absolutely. Wow, that's you learned something new every day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's the real winner of this? TBT clearly because BBT
Speaker 1: you sold out an arena for him. Yeap TBT. They
Speaker 1: use it for the scissor reel. Uh they're still winning.
Speaker 1: We're still talking about them. Yeah, Notre Dame. Yeah, basketball
Speaker 1: in general basketball and you got two championships. Yeah that
Speaker 1: I'd say those are the real winners. Big Kat's booky Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big winner, huge winner. He probably was watching
Speaker 1: the game and like had fucking a little Leprechaun on
Speaker 1: his shirt and was singing like cheer cheered Old motor
Speaker 1: Day the whole time. Who's the loser of this game? Um?
Speaker 1: I guess I would be a loser. Yeah, a pretty
Speaker 1: big loser in this game. Dave the locker room after
Speaker 1: when we were trying to make jokes when everyone was
Speaker 1: really down that that was that was a big loser
Speaker 1: move by us. You were trying to lift spirits. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just wasn't the time. But uh, you can't be
Speaker 1: that guy. No, we were that. Do you remember those
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly the jokes I was. I think
Speaker 1: I said something like we'll get him next time or
Speaker 1: something like that. But knowing that you guys were not,
Speaker 1: there was no next time. There was no ever coming back. No,
Speaker 1: coming back because of the national anthem. Because the national anthem, Yeah,
Speaker 1: held a grudge. I actually think TVT is kind of
Speaker 1: a loser because if they'd let me sing the national anthem,
Speaker 1: we probably still would have a relationship with them, and
Speaker 1: we still would be you'd have a team in there
Speaker 1: every single year. Yeah, you guys would be like the
Speaker 1: Eddie de Bartlow, Yes, of of TBT. Just paying guys
Speaker 1: left and right, unfair advantages. Yeah, no, salary cap would
Speaker 1: be incredible. Is there a chance of you ever going back? No?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Actually the next year, my team, the team
Speaker 1: that we had, came back in a little bit of
Speaker 1: a different version where they had different guys, and they
Speaker 1: played their first round game in Chicago and we went out.
Speaker 1: I went out with them because lifelong brothers, you know what,
Speaker 1: share locker room with someone, go to battle and share
Speaker 1: you know, we went out. We got really fucked up
Speaker 1: on that Friday night. We went out way too hard
Speaker 1: and then they got just absolutely smoked in the first round.
Speaker 1: So they were one and done. The next year one
Speaker 1: and done. Yeah, yeah, Jack, do we forget anything now?
Speaker 1: We were pretty good. We hit our bet. TBT is
Speaker 1: actually going into its ninth year on Age of Extinction.
Speaker 1: That was Wahlberg's first of the franchise. For fourth his first,
Speaker 1: but the fourth Transformer Torn didn't turn pro at seventeen.
Speaker 1: He had a seventeen year pro career. That was on
Speaker 1: me for right that one wrong. We talked a lot
Speaker 1: about Donni McGrath, not to be confused with Danny McGrath,
Speaker 1: which is Steve Buscemi's character in Billy Madison. On the
Speaker 1: fan vote, they're no longer allowing the fan vote as
Speaker 1: it existed in twenty fourteen. Instead, they allow their most
Speaker 1: loyal fans to select the sixty fourth team. So huh,
Speaker 1: sounds like some electoral college kind of shit. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: broke the system. Sounds like it. We did? You rumped it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did? So. Then what do we name this game?
Speaker 1: Is it the barstool Bungle, the Notre Dame Nightmare, the
Speaker 1: Notre Damn Nightmare, Damn you, Mike Bray, or something else.
Speaker 1: I think it's just fuck TBT right up the fuck
Speaker 1: TBT game championship game. I think we gotta go with
Speaker 1: fuck TBT. Let's score it the stakes of this game.
Speaker 1: Championship in the TB Tournament, TBT tournament, first ever, first ever,
Speaker 1: but fuck TBT tournament. So the stakes aren't that high. No,
Speaker 1: it's I think it's a ten out of ten. It's
Speaker 1: the first ever. You heard horn, he said it over
Speaker 1: and over. We won the first ever. I think we
Speaker 1: gotta go at least a seven. All right, I don't
Speaker 1: like how this is going in My favorite Okay, star
Speaker 1: power ten Dave portnoy ever heard of him? And Big Cat?
Speaker 1: With Big Cat, this is a different type of star power.
Speaker 1: Dante Young, allpro, we've done all pro things. What do
Speaker 1: you think of Julian ten. I'm thinking this is going
Speaker 1: to be mean. Just whatever you're about to say, know
Speaker 1: that it's gonna hurt my feeling. I have. I have
Speaker 1: the right to the artistic integrity of this fucking podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fine. Six Wow, wow? Six? And that's higher.
Speaker 1: I remember that's higher than some of we've had. I
Speaker 1: remember that. You remember that? No, I'll remember that. No,
Speaker 1: you won't, because I higher than the Ricky Williams rushing record. Game. Really,
Speaker 1: you're getting some we you know, you've seen how you
Speaker 1: score stuff. Okay, gameplay, I mean it was a solid
Speaker 1: games all A game came down the last minute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean had lead changes. One team leading in the
Speaker 1: first half loses the game. We'll give that an eight.
Speaker 1: We'll give you an eight on that. The game play
Speaker 1: is an eight. The name fuck TBT. It's got a
Speaker 1: good ring to it, Yeah, a good ring. It's not
Speaker 1: eighteen and one. It's not the twenty eighth to three game,
Speaker 1: but it's got it's got something. It's not the fake
Speaker 1: Tuch game or the fake Spike game. Yeah, I give
Speaker 1: it a what do you think seven? We'll give it
Speaker 1: a seven. What's the highest score so far? This is
Speaker 1: higher than a lot of This is doing pretty well.
Speaker 1: You're not the worst. And just bump the star power
Speaker 1: up to eight and just see what it looks I'm
Speaker 1: not getting Just see what it looks like. If you
Speaker 1: see what it looks like, it's seven point five. Let's
Speaker 1: see what it looks like on the total. Just put
Speaker 1: eight in there. Just let me see. Let me just okay,
Speaker 1: that looks yeah, that looks good. I like that. We'll
Speaker 1: give you your eight. We'll give them an a. It's
Speaker 1: a seven to five, right, Okay, that's pretty good. It's
Speaker 1: actually what's our It's no, that's perfect, Tyler Kyler, I
Speaker 1: will say as a hater, but this is one time
Speaker 1: he might be correct. This is too highest. It's not
Speaker 1: way too high. The Boise State tostitos esto is an
Speaker 1: eight to one. There you go, just as memorable. How
Speaker 1: many basketball games can you remember that Dave Portnoy's been
Speaker 1: involved in? Just one? There it is or Big Cat
Speaker 1: or Big Cats? Just what they were? There are two names,
Speaker 1: those are huge names and they're not they're not in
Speaker 1: torn Yeah and Torrn Who could forget Torrent seventeen year
Speaker 1: pro seventeen, Ben pro at seventeen and he's a seven
Speaker 1: seventeen year pro. Well that's all of this episode of
Speaker 1: Games with Names, presented by win Bet. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for listening. Thanks to our sponsors. Make sure to
Speaker 1: follow us at Games with Names. Right a review. I'm
Speaker 1: Sam Morrel, I'm Julian Edelman, and thank you Big Cat
Speaker 1: for joining us. This was a special treat. I know
Speaker 1: it's very hard as a competitor to go over championship losses.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had Bruski come in and talk about
Speaker 1: eighteen on Adrian Peters. Adrian Peterson come in and talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, a horrific loss against Boise State. Now we
Speaker 1: can add to that board. Big Cat losing the TBT
Speaker 1: Final in the first annual TBT Championship. Man in the arena,
Speaker 1: I think we need a documentary over there. Man in
Speaker 1: the arena came criticize me. Get in that arena, sit
Speaker 1: on that bench forty minutes and don't get in the game.
Speaker 1: Then talk to me. How were the benches. They're actually fine.
Speaker 1: They were nice because we had so much because we
Speaker 1: had such a lack of depth. Now, so I had
Speaker 1: like three seats myself, and that's the words. We'll see
Speaker 1: you later, folks. Three