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Speaker 1: June twenty eighth, twenty fourteen, Boston, Massachusetts, Case Gymnasium, five

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Speaker 1: hundred can the line. A group of ex college stars

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Speaker 1: bat let out for a winner take all championship. Two

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Speaker 1: before their eyes. This is twenty fourteen's the Basketball Tournament Championship. Hello, okay,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to games with Names presented by Wisdom, Oh sorry,

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Speaker 1: presented by win Bed of course, as you guys can tell,

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Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman, I'm sammurrel one to search to find

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Speaker 1: the greatest games of all time. And yes we're we're

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Speaker 1: joined here today with the infamous Big Cat. What's up?

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Speaker 1: How I feel great? And today we're gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: about the infamous twenty fourteen first Annual the Basketball Tournament Final. Yes, history, history, history,

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Speaker 1: This thing's literally been under wraps for years. You haven't

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Speaker 1: talked about this, Nope, nope. And this is Team Barstool

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Speaker 1: versus the Notre Dame Fighting Alumni. Yes, yes, and it's uh,

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Speaker 1: it is history. Because the Basketball Tournament is something people

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Speaker 1: watch now, they watched it on regular ESPN. It's become

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Speaker 1: a big deal. This was the first ever tournament, the

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Speaker 1: first ever championship. We could have been in history as

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Speaker 1: being the inaugural champions and we did. Sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 1: getting to the championship and losing is it's like the

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Speaker 1: worst thing you can ever have. Yes, you know, you

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Speaker 1: wish almost you losing like the divisional round or the championship,

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Speaker 1: to get to the championship. So I can feel you

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Speaker 1: gonna This is gonna really open you up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the pain of knowing you were right there,

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Speaker 1: we were half away, and uh, like I said, it

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Speaker 1: would have been history. You know, if this, if the

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Speaker 1: basketball tournament becomes something that lives on for a hundred years,

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Speaker 1: they could always point back to us and be like

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Speaker 1: that team won the first one ever. Instead were just

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Speaker 1: erase from history. Oh it's amazing how quickly I got

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Speaker 1: into this too. I was, this is the first non

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Speaker 1: you know, professional sport thing we've done. WHOA, WHOA? Are

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Speaker 1: you saying this wasn't a real No, I'm saying, I'm

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Speaker 1: saying legally, this is the first one we can use

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Speaker 1: clips of on YouTube. What I'm saying, there we go. No,

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Speaker 1: But I got into this quickly. The nostalgia, the NBA

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Speaker 1: on NBC Music. You're using it takes me back. That

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Speaker 1: was my favorite time to watch basketball, the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: and it was Yeah, I mean the entire lead up

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Speaker 1: to it, the tournament was very, very fun. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of our fans old school barstool like this is

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Speaker 1: what they look to when Dave and I would go

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Speaker 1: Never bring it up. We never bring it up. We

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Speaker 1: just bury it away and pretend it never happened. To

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Speaker 1: never talk about it. We also got to give a

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Speaker 1: shout out because this is a team Hank podcast. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Hank's in the building. Think how you feeling over there?

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Speaker 1: You're good. He's gonna come up to mic. So Hank

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Speaker 1: this is truly old school barstool where it was Dave

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Speaker 1: videoing everything. It was you know, a four man operation.

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Speaker 1: and tells you everything that happened in your life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how the team was assembled? Yes? Yes, So so Matt Walsh,

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Speaker 1: he is a huge stooly longtime stooy friend of ours,

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Speaker 1: and he approached us and he was like, Hey, there's

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Speaker 1: essentially there's a component to the tournament that's a fan vote.

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Speaker 1: close to them. This is ridiculous. They're pro players though

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Speaker 1: If this was the WNBA, you might get suspended for what. Oh,

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Speaker 1: life took a lot out of me. I was when

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Speaker 1: want to say, was IHF is that a station? No,

423
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about that. There is IFC. We

424
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: sit down and we're going through the meeting and they

425
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: said and one of the like executives said something like, yeah,

426
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: we're trying not to like do sophomore stuff. Like we

427
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: got pitched like some stupid thing from the Gronks, and

428
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: Dave stopped the meeting. He's like, I love the Gronks.

429
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: The Gronks are our guys, and that was it. It

430
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: was like the most awkward thing ever. But hind clothes

431
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: like he just was like, don't say that about the Gronks,

432
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: and that was it. It's like all of it fucking

433
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: We invited Hank into a couple of meetings. He was

434
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: wearing shorts. He felt so awkward. It was awesome. Well,

435
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: they were like I was just like going to sit

436
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: like I wasn't going in the meetings and I was

437
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: waiting in the waiting room like, oh, come in, and

438
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: I was like getting Jim shorts was like, oh my god,

439
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: that's the brand. Though. The whole thing was just it's

440
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: just such a like it's a very funny time and

441
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 1: place for Barstool in general, just because of where we

442
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: were and like trying to build something and we thought

443
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: we had arrived, but we hadn't arrived yet, but we

444
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: had that like it was coming soon though. Yeah, but

445
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: we had Yeah, they well you're feeling the fans. You're

446
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: feeling the fans and stuff, so they don't know. It

447
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: takes them always a little longer to find out. But

448
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 1: those pitch meetings are brutal. I mean I remember doing them.

449
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: You walk in, they're like, well, first off, we're huge fans,

450
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, you own a network and this

451
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: is my fourth time here, right, so you're not a

452
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: huge fans. You're not that big of fans. Yeah, that

453
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: was the same thing like we were. We just thought

454
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: because we were crushing it on our level, like what

455
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: like in terms of blogs, like recognition, all these things

456
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: were we were doing very well on our level. But

457
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: we we thought like everyone knew us. And then we

458
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: got out there and like no one knew who takes

459
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 1: It just takes them longer to They're always like two

460
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 1: years behind. Yeah, they are always a few years behind.

461
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: Let's get into these damn teams. Now, let's get to

462
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: the meat of this whole thing. Team Barstool won their

463
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: first four games of the tournament average margin victory of

464
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: ten and a half points victories. Yeah, we I think

465
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: there was actually three three pretty much blowouts. And then

466
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: we had a very close game against Princeton because they

467
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: ran that stupid backdoor offense where you guys, you guys

468
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: hot at the three. Because I heard a take that

469
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: you like, these games are go out to blowouts because

470
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: either a team's hot on three or not. Were you

471
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: getting hot? You did hear that take? It's a maker

472
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: miss league, maker miss league, just a make or miss league.

473
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: This was a maker miss league. And we had some

474
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: like Donnie McGrath and Matt Walsh were both exceptional three

475
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: point shooters in their college career, in their international career.

476
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, we were we were very hot. You also

477
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: had Andre Barrett, went to Seaton Hall, Josh Boone, Yukon,

478
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: Dan Katz, Wisconsin grad Yep, Justin Burrell, a lot of

479
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: good players out of Wisconsin. Yeah. Remember Orlando Tucker. Yeah

480
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: he's actually dead to the program now though, is he. Yeah,

481
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: what happened? He tried to so last year or two

482
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: years ago, he taped Greg Guard having them players only

483
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: meeting with the coach, and he basically tried to frame

484
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: Greg Guard and be like to the ad like I

485
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: should take over. He's lost the team, damn. And they

486
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: found out that he was the one who leaked the tape,

487
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: and so yeah, damn. But yeah, no, I loved went

488
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: to school at the same time I was there. So

489
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: Devin Harris, Alonda Tucker, the Frank Kminsky, Sam Decker. Yeah,

490
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: when you guys do season two, I'll come and talk

491
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: about the twenty fifteen Wisconsin Duke Final and will be

492
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: the most watched episode by far. They will because people

493
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: just lot like they just it's a big school and

494
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: they shot back to school. Back to school by any

495
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: danger for the Classic at Wisconsin. Have you ever been

496
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: to Madison? Have never been a Madison. It's a great place.

497
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: I've heard where they got like the little don't they

498
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: do like a jump in the water for something or No,

499
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: that's Ohio State. Oh yeah, Madison's a great city. Way

500
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: off on that one comedy on State. Maybe the best

501
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: comedy club in the country Madison, Wisconsin. Yeah, phenomenal. Yeah,

502
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: I want to just point out something real quick. This

503
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: is kind of like a foreshadowing if you scroll up again.

504
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: So if you notice, so Justin Burrell also was on

505
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: the team. But if you notice we have six, six

506
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: guys and then Dave and myself. Five guys play in

507
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: a basketball game. Might have been a concern later on

508
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: in the game, literallylater on in the turn. NBA teams

509
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: usually at least an eight man rotation. Yeah, we had

510
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: one guy off the bench. So yeah, you guys didn't

511
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: see a lot of minutes. We saw some we went.

512
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: I was in the barstool Philly game. Let's see. Have

513
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: my stats are right there? Three points, one for five,

514
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: three rebounds to assist. I mean I'm getting dirty and Philly. Yeah,

515
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: what is that? If I played what's the peer of that, Like,

516
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,479
Speaker 1: if I played, Let's say I played thirty five minutes seventh,

517
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: wait six times? Someone do some maths for me. What

518
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: would I have? The box score has it at a four?

519
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: What do you mean? It says per four four? Yeah,

520
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what Pierre means. But Dave's Dames negative too.

521
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: Dave's negative too. I always trust peer. I think it's

522
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: the smartest stat out there. I love Pew. How is

523
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: Dave because I see a lot of clips and he's

524
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: got the most unorthodox form I've ever seen. But they're

525
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: going in, yes, they yeah, he does have an unorthodox form.

526
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: All right, I'm looking right now. If I played thirty

527
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: six minutes, I'd have eighteen points, eighteen rebounds and twelve assists.

528
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, that's a triple double. If I checked,

529
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: if my grandma had balls, she'd be my grandpa. Let's

530
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: get over these Notre Dame Fighting Irish alumni squad. Who

531
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: do we have over there? Sam? Uh? Well, we got

532
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: Chris Thomas, Russell, Carter Tyrone, Nash Rob Kerrz, Ryan Ayres,

533
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: and Torn Francis who will be joining us. We're getting

534
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: one from the squad winning Chris Thomas by the way,

535
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: I remember him. That's the thing. Like this team is

536
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,719
Speaker 1: players that played at Notre Dame that are obviously good

537
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: back small players, but they didn't play They have chemistry,

538
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: they all played under the same coach of Mike Bray,

539
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: but they didn't play at that next level. You know,

540
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: they didn't play significant careers overseas and in the NBA.

541
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: So you can take them going in. We're gonna crash.

542
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna smash them. You serious, We're smash them things.

543
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: We remember. You guys had cool jerseys, very cool. It

544
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: looked like space jams out there a little bit. Yeah,

545
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: the Purple Starfish. It was we and we had alternates

546
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: and I think I still have one of my jerseys,

547
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: which is like rare for me to hold on to

548
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: something after I sell everything every few months from my pile.

549
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, those were very very cool jerseys. I think

550
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: we had our own custom Uh what do we have?

551
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: Sandals and stuff and like all these yes slides that

552
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: was part of the fan vote perk. We were we

553
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: were living large. This is like a this is like

554
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: a this is basically like go into a bowl game. Yes, yes, exactly,

555
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: and we got all the we went to all the

556
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: Bowl games at once, Like if we went to all

557
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: the bowl games that collected all the prizes, what was

558
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: the best thing you guys got. I mean the jerseys

559
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: were sick, the slides were sick. I think we had

560
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: better hotels. I think like there was even that level

561
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: we were staying, like the four seasons and stuff. Four seasons. Yeah,

562
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: that's that's a pricey hotel. Yeah, but I think we

563
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: got like the best accommodations as well, right right, Yeah,

564
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: And well we were the first first four games were

565
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. So were the championship you guys picked in Boston? Yeah,

566
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: So that was that was the biggest perk was if

567
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: you get the number one seed in the fan vote,

568
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: you get to pick where the championship has taking place.

569
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Where was the game at, like where it was it

570
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: was the bu Gym. And the big thing was because

571
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: of like our popularity at the time, we knew that

572
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: we could actually have a true home environment and fill

573
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: the place with our fans, which we did. So that

574
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: was like a huge ace in r you know, or

575
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: was a ace up your sleeve where it's like, hey,

576
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna go play this championship game there Throughout this

577
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: entire tournament, there's basically been no fans, but then we're

578
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna show up to be you and it's gonna be

579
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: all fans, Notre Dame. When they see this. It was

580
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: pretty loud and it was like we pass out shirts

581
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: and we had everyone chanting. So it was a true

582
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: home like a home game for us. Yeah. That it

583
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: kind of it reminds me of like I don't know

584
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: why I just popped in my head. This This whole

585
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: thing reminds me of like you guys had great temmunity,

586
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: has a great uniforms. It reminds me of like when

587
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: Houston came to our house in the divisional round and

588
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: they all had like letterman jacket Jackie. That's kind of

589
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: the vibes I got from this whole thing. Yeah, I

590
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't say we were the tightest team. They kind of

591
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the team was kind of like, why

592
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: are these guys here? Yeah, because they were tired. Yeah, well,

593
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: and Matt Walsh was like, no, they're cool, Like it's okay, cool,

594
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: like we candle line, but they're cool. I ended up

595
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: becoming good friends with Donnie McGrath and Justin Burrell, but

596
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: like Josh Boone, Dante Jones. Like I remember actually vividly

597
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: before the final game, we were at a Starbucks and

598
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: I was like going to pick up a coffee and

599
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: Dante Jones was there, and a girl came up and

600
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: asked for my picture, and then Dante Jones was like, oh, okay,

601
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: so you guys actually do have fans, and it was like, yeah,

602
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: we're not like complete shitheads. So the coach hated me. Yeah,

603
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: good question, Hank. So I didn't get a lot of

604
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: playing time because the coach didn't like you. Well, clearly,

605
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say was it's a chicken or

606
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: egg because I didn't get a lot of playing times.

607
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: So I always went really hard in warm ups and

608
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: he got very mad at me. He was like, you're

609
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: going to injure someone because I was like boxing out

610
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: because like, dude, I want to get a sweat in it.

611
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: I want to feel like I participated here. So warm

612
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: ups I was like setting picks, throw like boxing people

613
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: out like a couple, trying to block shots, taking charges,

614
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and he got very upset. Did you

615
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: guys line up and do the weave? And shit, we did, Yeah,

616
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: we did all that stuff. That's the last thing. Yeah,

617
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: they were there. He was. He hated me though, I was.

618
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: I was definitely the the problem child on the team.

619
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Was there a point where you thought you'd get into

620
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: that final game? I told him. I was like, I

621
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: got some minutes if you need me, like, I'll get

622
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: in there and I can at least give us a

623
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: break and just start hacking people. But I think it

624
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: was pretty clear we weren't going to get in anything

625
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: for the team. Yeah, anything for the team. Yeah, And

626
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: it was There were definitely moments we could talk about

627
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: after the game, but like before the game, during the tournament,

628
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: where you know there's a feeling Jewels, this never happened

629
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: to you because you played. But like when you're in

630
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: the locker room after and everyone's played and you haven't,

631
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: it hurts a little. Twenty eleven Super Bowl, I didn't

632
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: play that much. You didn't know. I wasn't kickoff and

633
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: that was a tough l right lost. Yeah, then we

634
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 1: lose that game, so like and then you come in

635
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: after and everyone's like tired, spent. I literally saw Matt

636
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: light in the shower and I was like, all right, buddy,

637
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: because he played a rough one. He just looked at

638
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: me and said I just retired, buddy, oh wow, And

639
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: so like I didn't play, I didn't barely have worked

640
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: up a sweat. See your comrades out there, it's a

641
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: tough feeling to be around everyone else when you didn't

642
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: contribute enough to the team. It's like when you get

643
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: hurt and you're in the locker room. Yeah, guys just

644
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: come in from like a hundred degree day. They work

645
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: their fucking ass off, their sweating. Guys are like cramped

646
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: up on ivs. You just did an hour of fucking

647
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: pool work. And guys are looking at you like are

648
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: you really hurt? Right right? And they're looking at us

649
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: like why are you taking up roster spots? We could

650
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: use a little depth here. Did either you or Dave

651
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: look at each other like maybe one of us should

652
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: should replay, get replaced with like an x NBA player. Well,

653
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: we actually had a couple. Shavelk Randolph, who I think

654
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: you guys might remember that name. He played to Duke

655
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: and then Quincy Acy who played at play for the

656
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: Knicks played for the Knicks, played a Baylor I want

657
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: to say, or no, and that's a glue guy. You

658
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: could have used a tough guy like that they were

659
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: originally on the roster and they weren't able to make

660
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: it because their international teams went deep into the playoffs.

661
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, there was some times where it's like, hey,

662
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: it would be nice we had a couple more guys,

663
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wish I could have helped. I wish

664
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I could help more. But I did remember when I say,

665
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: eighteen eighteen and twelve, that's pretty good. It was pretty

666
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: it was pretty decent. Let's get to the gaming corner

667
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: presented by wind bet, which brings us to the betting corner.

668
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: Let's get to the gaming corner presented by win bet.

669
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: Relevant betting lines. We can't explain that. Don't really know.

670
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: I think there might have been a line on this.

671
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: Was there a line? Who what bookies were taking this?

672
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I would imagine wasn't legal yet. Yeah,

673
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: I would imagine we were favorites. We were definitely favorites.

674
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: If like, if if you had asked for a line,

675
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: if it was being played today, I would have said,

676
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: they probably would have made us like five point favorites,

677
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: four and a half point favorites, something like that or

678
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: something over over a possession, because we were we had

679
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: the name recognition, We had the home court, so I

680
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: would say it would be around there. Portnoy's prediction was

681
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: seventy seven forty barstool. Yep, big Kat, you said if

682
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: you were a gambling man, you would put twenty five

683
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: k on barstool, So yeah, I am a gambling man,

684
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: and I kind of did because I needed this money

685
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: for pass gambling. So that's so I already had a

686
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: bet on this game because I really needed this money.

687
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: So how much did you put down in this game?

688
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: Nothing but I but everything? If you get my drift

689
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: I needed. I needed the twenty five k to pay

690
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: for the twenty five k that ID already lost on

691
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: other things. What what? What game? Sports games? Every game

692
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: name a game. I mean, this is what this is.

693
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: This is right after March Madness, NBA playoffs and the

694
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: worst time the June is the worst time of the

695
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: year because it's September all the way through June. Yeah,

696
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: and that is where I needed the reset button, and

697
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: this was my reset button. This was gonna be my

698
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: hit the reset button. I'm good. What do you say? HEYK?

699
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: And they lost yep, yeah, we were out in LA

700
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. Yeah that sucked. So they won that though,

701
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: didn't they? No, they lost that year twenty fourteen, they

702
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: lost twenty and fifteen. They won fifteen, Which brings us

703
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: to the point, all our listeners, you guys always bet responsibly.

704
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: Don't use this right. Don't be caught in a game

705
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: where it's don't be twenty five dollars if you win,

706
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: nothing if you lose and you already owe twenty five thousand. Yeah,

707
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: I see. I always hear, like real Richmond say, you

708
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: can't be out leverage, you can't be out leveraged. Yeah, right, responsibly,

709
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: responsibly responsible, So the opposite of what I did. Correct,

710
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: All right, I'm not a role model. Now we have

711
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: this prop bet thing where when we do interviews we

712
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: come up with some kind of stupid funny thing, kind

713
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: of like super Troopers, the mew thing. How many times

714
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: can we get it off we put an over under,

715
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: or how many times we get an uh interviewee to

716
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: say something one of our guests. What should we come

717
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: up with with the for torn Torrin? What should we

718
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: throw in? I mean, I hate this guy. I don't

719
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: even know him. I just hate him. I don't know

720
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: why I think something negative would be good. I think

721
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: how many times, Big Cat, I can say I hate you. Yeah, Okay,

722
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm just gonna yeah, I'll just say hate him,

723
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: hate Notre Dame. Yeah yeah yeah. But can we hit that? Yeah,

724
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying four and a half. We can hit you

725
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: can get hit five? Yeah? Easy? All right, easy, all right.

726
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from old Torn. But before then, let's

727
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: take a quick break, and we're joined here by our guest,

728
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: Torn Francis, a Boston guy, played Notre Dame South Bend

729
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: from O two to so Big Cat's probably not gonna

730
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: be happy with him, not just because of this loss,

731
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: because he also hates Notre Dame. Former McDonald's all American.

732
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: He had turned pro when he turned seventeen years old.

733
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: What a stud played currently playing in Argentina? Do they

734
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: do they pronounce the l's different. I heard it's ka

735
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: not kaye. Yeah, that's the genre, that's that's the type

736
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: of Spanish it is, that's the dialect. That's the dialect.

737
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: I got an Argentinian friend. Well, Julian, you left out

738
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 1: a big one. He's the winner of the first ever

739
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: the basketball tournament, the first can't leave that out very first.

740
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: First off, what the fuck are you doing playing in

741
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: this game? Why not? Why not? That's a competitor, huh.

742
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: I mean Notre Dame. My brothers came together to win it,

743
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: and we got it done. I mean, you got it

744
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: all right, So I mean I hate you obviously, and

745
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: I hate Notre Dame. I'll just get that out of

746
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: the way. I really hate you guys. Ah what you

747
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: guys should have lost that game, like you're not. We

748
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: were better than you, no better on paper, but that

749
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you were a better teams respect what Let

750
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: me ask you this, what was your second half game plan?

751
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: Because it clearly changed and we just missed shots? Like,

752
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 1: you guys didn't even win. We just missed shots. Hey,

753
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: that's that's the defense. You know. You didn't miss shots.

754
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: We made you guys miss shots from the defense we

755
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: were playing. So that was our that was our game

756
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: plan second half. Just shurn up the defense and we

757
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: weren't going to have a problem offensively, and so we

758
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: got it done. Like, you go into this game, and

759
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: you guys definitely probably had a scouting department, you know,

760
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: being the champions of this thing, with the resources that

761
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: you guys probably had, with the scouting tape, you saw

762
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: that there was six viable, really good guys, and you

763
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: saw these two other guys that were like player coach

764
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: or whatever they want to call their theirselves. Hey, Bill

765
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: Russell as a player coach. Bill Russell was a player coach.

766
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: But like, did you guys know in the like in

767
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: your heart at the beginning of the game, you guys

768
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: want to blow these fools out or it was gonna

769
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: be a close game of what was going on? Listen,

770
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: every time, every step, every time we step on the court,

771
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: we're going to win. It doesn't matter who the other

772
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: team had. You know, we're in the same position as

773
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: they were in the finals with them, So you know,

774
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: for us, it was a it was an even playing field.

775
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: And I just think that we had we have actually

776
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: played together, you know, obviously it had been at different

777
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: times throughout our careers, but we had played together. We're

778
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: familiar with each other, so I think we actually had

779
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: the advantage. How about a seven game series? Who takes this?

780
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: Oh easily? Us easily? I have you guys got lucky

781
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: for one game and and you know, tip your hat

782
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: to you for that. I like I said, I hate

783
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: you guys, but I'll tip my hat you got lucky

784
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: for one game. I don't think if you play seven

785
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: game series, I think real talent wins. Out. Let me

786
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: ask you this, did you see my stat line from

787
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: the game against Philly where you like, this guy might

788
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: get in and he might have some minutes in him

789
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: because I had we did the math. If I played

790
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: thirty six minutes in that game, I would add eighteen,

791
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: eighteen and twelve. So how many minutes did you play?

792
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: And what'd you have? I played three minutes, I had three,

793
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: three and two. But it just, I mean, you got

794
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: you had to see us and be like, who knows

795
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: ultimate wild card? Everyone else knows? Everyone else here? Who

796
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 1: are these two guys at the end of the bench. Yeah,

797
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: but sometimes you have to remember it's only one basketball.

798
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: So sure, yeah you had you know, Dina McGrath, Josh Boone,

799
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Dante Jones, you know, you had all the names, but

800
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: there's still only one basketball. We see it, We see

801
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: it even today everywhere. You know, look at the Lakers,

802
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: look at the nets. You know, just it doesn't matter

803
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: who you have on the roster necessarily, it's all about

804
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: who comes to play at that particular moment, you know,

805
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: And so I would have to disagree with you. I

806
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: know we'll still win in a seven game series. Nah. Nah,

807
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: what do you think that we suffered from no bench depth?

808
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: I think so you guys were tired, you know, I

809
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: had I was not tired by the end of the game.

810
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: I just want to say that I still had some

811
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: legs in me. But yeah, I mean having six guys

812
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: it hurt. It hurt us at the end when we

813
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: couldn't felt like the jump shots weren't getting made. It's

814
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: a make or miss league, and that's all part of

815
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: the game. You have to take all that into account.

816
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: How meaningful does this win for you? It was great?

817
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: It was It was great, you know, partly because a

818
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: lot of the other guys that are actually I work

819
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: out with them during the summer, you know, and so

820
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: those are guys I see on a daily basis. So

821
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: that was good there. And then you know, just to

822
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: come together with my brothers win the very first championship,

823
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, so we go down in history as a

824
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: as a as a first winners, and it was just

825
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: a great time for us to get together and catch up. Torn.

826
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: It's forty thirty five team Barstool at Half, who were

827
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: the raw Rock guys in the locker room. What were

828
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: you guys saying. I know you guys weren't down a lot,

829
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: but you know, you guys clearly made some halftime adjustments

830
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: that Team Barstool did not do to come out on

831
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: top at the end. What sparked that? Yeah, Well, you know,

832
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: we all came together in the locker We all came together.

833
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: You know, Chris Thomas was obviously running the point, you know,

834
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: so I remember he basically gave us that presence in

835
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: the locker room saying, we just have to go out

836
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: and do it, you know, And so that's what we did.

837
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: We all came together. Well, we were all vocal, so

838
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: we all had an equal part in getting it done.

839
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: I hate you, That's all I gotta say. I don't hate,

840
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: don't hate. Yeah, I mean you guys whatever, listen. I

841
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: don't want to point fingers because I'm a good teammate.

842
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: But if Matt Walsh just hit like one more three,

843
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: we would have been fine. But he just decided to

844
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 1: go as cold as cold could be. He and Donnie

845
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: like just missed everything. I mean, you know, I think

846
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: I think any loser can say that if we would

847
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: have done this, we would have won, you know, So

848
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: that's that hurt. That hurt what he just said. But

849
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: he's right, he's completely right. He's now for you, big

850
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: We've all done it. Yeah, we've all done it now,

851
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: big Cat. When did you guys start to panic? I

852
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: think it was so it was like without five minutes left,

853
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: it was back and forth and there was it was

854
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 1: like basically a one possession game, and then it became

855
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: a two possession game. I think it might have been

856
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: like an Andre Barrett turnover something. I remember. The two

857
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: things I remember from the end of the game was

858
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: Matt walshon Donni McGrath sucked and couldn't hit anything, not

859
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: to point fingers. And then you guys had really good

860
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: pressure on Andre Barrett coming up the court and we

861
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: were able to force a couple turnovers because he had to.

862
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: He had to basically do it all in terms of

863
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: dribbling the ball and being the point guard for the

864
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: entire game. And I remember that happening and being like, oh,

865
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: we might be in trouble here, and that's what I said.

866
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: It was. It came down to the defense second half.

867
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: I think that's really what what separated us. And obviously

868
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: gave us that that boost that we needed to get it,

869
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: get the win. Torn Like, after you guys win this,

870
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean this is the first annual, the first of

871
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: the annual tournament. Like, would you guys do to celebrate

872
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: with all that money? Oh, we went out. You know,

873
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm from Boston, so we already had the table set

874
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: up at the club win or lose, you know, so

875
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: obviously it was much better that we won. So we

876
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: went out, celebrated and just hung out. Now you know,

877
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: I've played in super Bowls where you lose and you

878
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: still have like a post party, Like, did you guys?

879
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Clearly did you guys? We did go out. We did

880
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: go out. We got I was locked up. We didn't

881
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: go to the club. Dave had a whole setup. He

882
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: Dave was actually he was ready to spend every single

883
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: dollar that we wont, like twenty five thousand dollars on

884
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: just that night. He was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna

885
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: see if I can spend all the money on just tonight.

886
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: So then when we lost, we canceled all that and

887
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: just went out regularly. And it sucked. You hit like

888
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: an old timey pub or something. This energy Hank Hank

889
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: was I think I went. Yeah, I think me and

890
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: Feidelberg and Matt Walsh went out, and yeah it was.

891
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: It sucked though, because Dave really was like before the game,

892
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm I don't want to walk away

893
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: with a dollar after this, Like I want twenty five

894
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to spend it all on tonight. Now, you

895
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: guys didn't spend all your money that night? Would you? Guys?

896
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: Would you do you buy a loved one in a

897
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: little something or you buy a little devil's lettuce and

898
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: Grampa's old cough medicine. What did you do? Yeah, I

899
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: mean we didn't spend that night. I told you we

900
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: already had. I think we went to the venue. Actually

901
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: we had a table over there. And as far as

902
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: my winnings, I think I that just wanted that just

903
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: went into investments. I believe from what I remember, boring

904
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: was boring. That's what I'm saying. That's why I hate

905
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: you guys, because you guys didn't. You weren't gonna do

906
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: anything fun with it. I was gonna do something fun

907
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: with it. That's not what you want to hear. If

908
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: from winning a championship, mutual fun, Yeah, it was financially

909
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: responsible with my winnings. Dude, I have four kids. You

910
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: have kids. I'm a father too. I'm a father of one. Yeah,

911
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: you know this is we got the kid game here. Yeah,

912
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: we played kid game all day. I hate you. Now.

913
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: Did we miss anything? Is there anything that you remember

914
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: in this game? Any any like elbows or any faces

915
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: from you know, guys that were sitting on the bench

916
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: from the other team, or any antics or no. So

917
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: I just remember that it got loud. I'm from Boston,

918
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: so I had a ton of people there, and then

919
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: I think Notre Dame. We just had a ton of

920
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: fans there in general, you know. So it got loud

921
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: and the fans were actually jumping up and down and

922
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: the floor was shaking. I don't know. I don't know

923
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: if you remember that you're on the bench. I don't

924
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: know if you remember that that did not happen. You

925
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: did not have that many fans there. That's just a lie.

926
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: The floor was literally shaking. What percentage would you say

927
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: was there for barstool and who is Notre Dame people

928
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: in there? Torrent it was I would probably say it

929
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: was fifty to fifty. Oh my god, this is I

930
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: mean I have Hey, you're shaking his head too, that's

931
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: a complete line. I do remember there was a pocket

932
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame fans, so I'll give you that. Like

933
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: I would say, there was probably maybe twenty percent Notre

934
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: Dame fans. Maybe we appreciate the truth though, because you know,

935
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: people over in this area that were sitting we were

936
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: saying that it was like one hundred percent one. I

937
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: mean it might have it was closer to one hundred

938
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: percent than fifty to fifty. And you know that. Oh no,

939
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean I would say, I don't remember exactly, but

940
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: I just remember our fans. Maybe that's why because they

941
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: were showing us love. Obviously your fans, you guys were losing,

942
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: so they were quiet, so there was there wasn't really

943
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: a fan presence there, So I'm just going from what

944
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: I remember. It was also bullshit that you brought Mike

945
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: Bray there, because, like I'm I'm convinced he went in

946
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: the locker room at halftime and coach you guys, Like

947
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: I know that that way, I know that happened. I

948
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: saw him. He was wearing a stupid mock turtleneck and

949
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy, he's they're cheating, They're using

950
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: a coach. It's bullshit. I got a question, what do

951
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: you think would have happened? What do you think would

952
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: have happened? If Dave or Big Cat got into the

953
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 1: game with some fresh legs out there fourth quarter? Maybe

954
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: they bring some energy. What do you think would the outcome?

955
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: Are indifferent? I think we would have won my more. Actually,

956
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: just because you would have got you would have gotten

957
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: you were I would have fouled out, and I would

958
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: have made sure that you had to be on the

959
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: free throw line. What are you percentage wise free throw shooter?

960
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm around seventy percent. That's terrible. Yeah, it is it?

961
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: Actually is it? Actually? Is? There we go now, I

962
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: feel like I'm back right. I found something. I would

963
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: have hacked you, and then you would have made roughly

964
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: seventy percent of your free throws. Yeah, nah, I'm good.

965
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: So I'm actually not playing anymore. So I stopped playing.

966
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: I stopped playing for about a year now. Oh that's funny,

967
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: because I still am playing. Looks like my career lasted

968
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: longer than yours. But it's like riding a bike when

969
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: I step on the court. Is you know, it's nothing lost.

970
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm just not. I'm just not playing. Why do you

971
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: stop playing? Why? Just because I played fifteen years and

972
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: with the pandemic and everything, you know, all the money

973
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: was down. So I said, now now it's probably a

974
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: good time to transition into life after basketball. I got

975
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: a question, So you played overseas. Is it true that

976
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: all the guys who play overseas never pay taxes? No,

977
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: that's not true. So when you when you're actually be

978
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: paying taxes. So when you play overseaser, you have to

979
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: pay taxes in the country you're playing in, and so

980
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay taxes twice, you know, from

981
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: from playing one in one country to paying here the

982
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: federal taxes. Plus you have a tax exemption when you're

983
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: working abroad, you know, and so most of the time

984
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: the federal taxes were exempts. It was just primarily the

985
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: state taxes that you have to pay for, you know,

986
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: whatever property or whatever you own. Yeah, I heard you

987
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: just never those guys never paid taxes. So just I'm

988
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: just putting it out there. Not anyone from the irs

989
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: is listening. He's going he's going long game victory. If

990
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: you can get just one of you in jail, Sure

991
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: he pay tax and the whole team Notre Dame gets

992
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: audited for twenty fourteen. I'd appreciate that. Taxes on my money.

993
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: I won too, tourn Did we miss anything, Nah, No,

994
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: I mean it was you know, it was a great

995
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: It was especially for the first the first year, it

996
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: was amazing. It was a great experience. You know. Me,

997
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: Donnie's actually one of my best friends, so we still

998
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: talk about that to this day. But it was it

999
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: was a great time. Unfortunately we could have win the

1000
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: next year, but it was still it was still a

1001
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: great time touring. Just remember, no one remembers second place.

1002
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: You will always be remembered for being the first tournament

1003
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: winner of this immaculate tournament that is continuing five consecutive,

1004
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: six consecutive years. Now, one hundred years down the road,

1005
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: we could be talking about this being the first one.

1006
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: We thank you for coming on and joining us. And

1007
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: it was great to hear the perspective from you know,

1008
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: the winning squad. We we sat here for you know,

1009
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: good thirty five to forty minutes and talked with the

1010
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: team barstool and they gave us their perspective. It's always

1011
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: good to hear a winning perspective coming from you know

1012
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: winning environment in Boston that I know you're from, So

1013
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: thank you again for joining us. Thank you for having me.

1014
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: Let me know, if you guys want to picture of

1015
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: me holding that big check you didn't pay taxes on,

1016
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: send it over for you. Definitely we'll have to get that.

1017
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: And uh we're gonna send you in insane gift basket

1018
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: that I heard that team Barstool had some you know,

1019
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: they had a lot of resources and it probably a

1020
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: lot of advantages. So we're gonna try to take care

1021
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: of you on that. And uh, appreciate you coming on, Bubbs,

1022
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Thanks man, still hate you and

1023
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: Notre Dame thanks to Wow you could still feel the

1024
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: heat between the two competitors. I mean, what a champion.

1025
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: He was just a true gentleman. I mean that was

1026
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: he was great, not a starter. It came off the

1027
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: bench just like me. I mean, the only difference is

1028
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: he actually played I didn't whatever. I mean, six MANI

1029
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: of a Year award like that's he's a huge part

1030
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: of the team. Will always remember the Jamal Crawford of

1031
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: the tournament here. Yeah yeah, I mean I he said

1032
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: everything that I already know deep down, like when it

1033
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: came to that game. It was a bunch of guys

1034
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: who are really talented versus a bunch of guys who

1035
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: played in the exact same system in college and knew,

1036
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, how to run the same offense, how to

1037
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: play team defense. That's what killed us. Chemistry over talent. Yep.

1038
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: It's like it's like when the Team USA teams come

1039
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: together and they go against like Spain or something. Yeah, no,

1040
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's tough to build chemistry. Actually, the way

1041
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: we really should think about it is we went to

1042
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: the finals and we were leading at halftime. We built chemistry.

1043
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: Dave and I built chemistry on that team in like

1044
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: a matter of two weeks. So that's really how you

1045
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: should look at it. So then technically, the next time

1046
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: you guys play, you guys should be able to take

1047
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: it easy. So when it is it gonna happen, are

1048
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: you gonna get a team together? No, we've retired, we've

1049
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: banned ourselves from TBT, but the prize has gone up.

1050
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: I think we do one last ride. No no, no, no

1051
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: no no. They they refuse to let me sing the

1052
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: national anthem at the championship games, so they're dead to us.

1053
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: That's true, have you done any national anthems? I have

1054
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: done many national anthems where ruff and rowdy, Wendy City,

1055
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: thunderbolts in Chicago. What else? No Cubs, Jack Jack's trying

1056
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: to We got a little bit of breaking news on

1057
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: the subject from the head of the TBT, John Muger

1058
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: Mugar Mugar Okay. In an email to Games with Names.

1059
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: He said that game was also notable because it initiated

1060
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: a now eight year ban on TBT by Barstool. Portnoy

1061
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: asked to sing the national anthem before the game and

1062
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: was denied, so they never entered a team again. When

1063
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: TBT has come up over the years on their podcasts,

1064
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: both Big Cat and Portnoy have said things like, quote

1065
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: they're dead to us end quote, we don't talk about TBT,

1066
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: so it's good to hear Big Cats willing to talk

1067
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: about it. Well, this is the first step to maybe

1068
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: you guys going back revisiting. Yeah, well no, that's a no,

1069
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 1: because I'm actually looking it up right now. Let's see

1070
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: from twenty fifteen, he wrote me this, I think the

1071
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: last time I talked to me, said Dave calling me

1072
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: a cocksucker on the rundown really sucks. I didn't want

1073
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: you to sing the anthem because I wanted to set

1074
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 1: a different tone for the championship game. It's that simple.

1075
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: I appreciated your involvement, still do, and I know it

1076
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: led to a great atmosphere for the final. I still

1077
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: don't agree with his like day. Basically, we packed a house,

1078
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: we got a bunch of people tuned in. All we

1079
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: wanted to do was the anthem. They wouldn't let us

1080
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: do it. He didn't play any points they could have,

1081
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: or you didn't play any minutes so you could at

1082
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: least got the anthem in right, And from our perspective,

1083
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: it's like, you're gonna use this in sizzle reels. We

1084
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: helped you initially, like you're starting out and everything. Let

1085
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: us sing the anthem. So yeah, I think the band

1086
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: is still there. Did Tebu sang the anthem? Ah? Some

1087
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: no names? One I don't know, probably sucked. I don't really.

1088
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 1: I think I I mightn't. I might have neelt. I

1089
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: might I might have been kneeling for the anthem because

1090
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: of that. Imagine if we went back and I was

1091
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: the first one to kneel. But it was completely selfish

1092
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: reason that it was like I'm just kneeling because I'm

1093
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: a big man child who's Maddie can't sing the anthem? Jack?

1094
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: Did we settle that prop? Bet? Oh? He crushed Oh

1095
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: we crushed it. Yeah. Seven hates Yeah, he hate me.

1096
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't even hate that guy, to be honest. He

1097
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: seemed like a good guy. Yeah, he seemed like a

1098
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: good guy. And if he's friends with Donnie, that's the

1099
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: thing is at the end of the day, we lost

1100
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: the game, but I made lifelong friends in Donnie McGrath,

1101
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: Matt Walsh, Justin Burrell. I think that's about it. I

1102
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't what mall Yeah from Rory and Mal you know

1103
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Mal from uh what was it from the Joe Budden

1104
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: podcast kicked off? No, he's he was part of the

1105
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: Joe Budden podcast. He's now a very famous podcaster with Rory.

1106
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: He was on the sideline with us, he was on

1107
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: the bench with us because he's good friends with Andre Barrett,

1108
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: so lifelong friends. I don't know if Dante Jones would

1109
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: ever pick up my call if I if I track

1110
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: down his number, I don't think he'd recognized me either.

1111
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah one with the Cavs. Couldn't couldn't lift you guys up.

1112
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: I know, I know that's kind, but you know what,

1113
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like when he wins

1114
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: the NBA title in twenty sixteen, it felt like all

1115
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: of us won one. Sure because you play you shared

1116
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: a court with, right. Do you think he would have

1117
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: traded that one and have won with you guys? Probably

1118
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: if you ask him for real. Yeah, probably at that

1119
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: time because he wasn't in the NBA. He needed the money.

1120
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: So there it is. And I defended him. I was

1121
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: the enforcer on the team. I defended him earlier in

1122
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: the tournament with a brew haha. So what are you

1123
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: gonna do? I always have his back. But if he

1124
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: goes out and wins this, maybe he doesn't get that,

1125
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't have the fire. Maybe Lebron never wins

1126
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: a title in Cleveland. Yeah so if so, I basically

1127
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: screwed myself. You screwed yourself. Butterfly effect. Damn, that's brutal.

1128
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 1: This game directly affected Cleveland's first and only championship. It's crazy. Yes,

1129
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: that's how important. Cleveland should thank you. Cleveland should thank

1130
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: me absolutely. Wow, that's you learned something new every day. Yeah,

1131
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: who's the real winner of this? TBT clearly because BBT

1132
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: you sold out an arena for him. Yeap TBT. They

1133
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: use it for the scissor reel. Uh they're still winning.

1134
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: We're still talking about them. Yeah, Notre Dame. Yeah, basketball

1135
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: in general basketball and you got two championships. Yeah that

1136
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: I'd say those are the real winners. Big Kat's booky Yeah,

1137
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big winner, huge winner. He probably was watching

1138
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: the game and like had fucking a little Leprechaun on

1139
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: his shirt and was singing like cheer cheered Old motor

1140
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: Day the whole time. Who's the loser of this game? Um?

1141
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: I guess I would be a loser. Yeah, a pretty

1142
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,479
Speaker 1: big loser in this game. Dave the locker room after

1143
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: when we were trying to make jokes when everyone was

1144
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: really down that that was that was a big loser

1145
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: move by us. You were trying to lift spirits. Yeah,

1146
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: it just wasn't the time. But uh, you can't be

1147
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: that guy. No, we were that. Do you remember those

1148
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly the jokes I was. I think

1149
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: I said something like we'll get him next time or

1150
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: something like that. But knowing that you guys were not,

1151
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: there was no next time. There was no ever coming back. No,

1152
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: coming back because of the national anthem. Because the national anthem, Yeah,

1153
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: held a grudge. I actually think TVT is kind of

1154
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: a loser because if they'd let me sing the national anthem,

1155
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: we probably still would have a relationship with them, and

1156
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: we still would be you'd have a team in there

1157
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: every single year. Yeah, you guys would be like the

1158
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: Eddie de Bartlow, Yes, of of TBT. Just paying guys

1159
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: left and right, unfair advantages. Yeah, no, salary cap would

1160
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: be incredible. Is there a chance of you ever going back? No?

1161
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Actually the next year, my team, the team

1162
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: that we had, came back in a little bit of

1163
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: a different version where they had different guys, and they

1164
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: played their first round game in Chicago and we went out.

1165
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: I went out with them because lifelong brothers, you know what,

1166
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: share locker room with someone, go to battle and share

1167
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, we went out. We got really fucked up

1168
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: on that Friday night. We went out way too hard

1169
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: and then they got just absolutely smoked in the first round.

1170
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: So they were one and done. The next year one

1171
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: and done. Yeah, yeah, Jack, do we forget anything now?

1172
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: We were pretty good. We hit our bet. TBT is

1173
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: actually going into its ninth year on Age of Extinction.

1174
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: That was Wahlberg's first of the franchise. For fourth his first,

1175
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: but the fourth Transformer Torn didn't turn pro at seventeen.

1176
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: He had a seventeen year pro career. That was on

1177
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: me for right that one wrong. We talked a lot

1178
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: about Donni McGrath, not to be confused with Danny McGrath,

1179
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: which is Steve Buscemi's character in Billy Madison. On the

1180
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: fan vote, they're no longer allowing the fan vote as

1181
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 1: it existed in twenty fourteen. Instead, they allow their most

1182
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: loyal fans to select the sixty fourth team. So huh,

1183
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: sounds like some electoral college kind of shit. Yeah, we

1184
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: broke the system. Sounds like it. We did? You rumped it? Yeah,

1185
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: we did? So. Then what do we name this game?

1186
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: Is it the barstool Bungle, the Notre Dame Nightmare, the

1187
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: Notre Damn Nightmare, Damn you, Mike Bray, or something else.

1188
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: I think it's just fuck TBT right up the fuck

1189
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: TBT game championship game. I think we gotta go with

1190
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: fuck TBT. Let's score it the stakes of this game.

1191
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: Championship in the TB Tournament, TBT tournament, first ever, first ever,

1192
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: but fuck TBT tournament. So the stakes aren't that high. No,

1193
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: it's I think it's a ten out of ten. It's

1194
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: the first ever. You heard horn, he said it over

1195
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: and over. We won the first ever. I think we

1196
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: gotta go at least a seven. All right, I don't

1197
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: like how this is going in My favorite Okay, star

1198
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: power ten Dave portnoy ever heard of him? And Big Cat?

1199
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: With Big Cat, this is a different type of star power.

1200
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: Dante Young, allpro, we've done all pro things. What do

1201
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: you think of Julian ten. I'm thinking this is going

1202
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: to be mean. Just whatever you're about to say, know

1203
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: that it's gonna hurt my feeling. I have. I have

1204
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: the right to the artistic integrity of this fucking podcast.

1205
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fine. Six Wow, wow? Six? And that's higher.

1206
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: I remember that's higher than some of we've had. I

1207
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: remember that. You remember that? No, I'll remember that. No,

1208
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: you won't, because I higher than the Ricky Williams rushing record. Game. Really,

1209
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: you're getting some we you know, you've seen how you

1210
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: score stuff. Okay, gameplay, I mean it was a solid

1211
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: games all A game came down the last minute. Yeah,

1212
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean had lead changes. One team leading in the

1213
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: first half loses the game. We'll give that an eight.

1214
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: We'll give you an eight on that. The game play

1215
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: is an eight. The name fuck TBT. It's got a

1216
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: good ring to it, Yeah, a good ring. It's not

1217
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: eighteen and one. It's not the twenty eighth to three game,

1218
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: but it's got it's got something. It's not the fake

1219
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: Tuch game or the fake Spike game. Yeah, I give

1220
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: it a what do you think seven? We'll give it

1221
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: a seven. What's the highest score so far? This is

1222
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: higher than a lot of This is doing pretty well.

1223
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,439
Speaker 1: You're not the worst. And just bump the star power

1224
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: up to eight and just see what it looks I'm

1225
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: not getting Just see what it looks like. If you

1226
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: see what it looks like, it's seven point five. Let's

1227
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: see what it looks like on the total. Just put

1228
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: eight in there. Just let me see. Let me just okay,

1229
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: that looks yeah, that looks good. I like that. We'll

1230
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: give you your eight. We'll give them an a. It's

1231
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: a seven to five, right, Okay, that's pretty good. It's

1232
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: actually what's our It's no, that's perfect, Tyler Kyler, I

1233
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,919
Speaker 1: will say as a hater, but this is one time

1234
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: he might be correct. This is too highest. It's not

1235
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: way too high. The Boise State tostitos esto is an

1236
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: eight to one. There you go, just as memorable. How

1237
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: many basketball games can you remember that Dave Portnoy's been

1238
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: involved in? Just one? There it is or Big Cat

1239
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: or Big Cats? Just what they were? There are two names,

1240
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: those are huge names and they're not they're not in

1241
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: torn Yeah and Torrn Who could forget Torrent seventeen year

1242
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: pro seventeen, Ben pro at seventeen and he's a seven

1243
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: seventeen year pro. Well that's all of this episode of

1244
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: Games with Names, presented by win Bet. Thank you so

1245
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: much for listening. Thanks to our sponsors. Make sure to

1246
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: follow us at Games with Names. Right a review. I'm

1247
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: Sam Morrel, I'm Julian Edelman, and thank you Big Cat

1248
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: for joining us. This was a special treat. I know

1249
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: it's very hard as a competitor to go over championship losses.

1250
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we had Bruski come in and talk about

1251
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: eighteen on Adrian Peters. Adrian Peterson come in and talk about,

1252
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, a horrific loss against Boise State. Now we

1253
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: can add to that board. Big Cat losing the TBT

1254
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: Final in the first annual TBT Championship. Man in the arena,

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Speaker 1: I think we need a documentary over there. Man in

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Speaker 1: the arena came criticize me. Get in that arena, sit

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Speaker 1: on that bench forty minutes and don't get in the game.

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Speaker 1: Then talk to me. How were the benches. They're actually fine.

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Speaker 1: They were nice because we had so much because we

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Speaker 1: had such a lack of depth. Now, so I had

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Speaker 1: like three seats myself, and that's the words. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you later, folks. Three