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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 2: So I know you went off on TikTok yesterday, Buck,

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Speaker 2: which had to pain you on some level being the

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Speaker 2: diehard TikTok aficionado of which you are.

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Speaker 3: Well, yes, I mean I enjoyed the TikTok and I doubt.

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Speaker 2: Fox News, Marquette, Quinnipiac, the Morning Consult, all New York Times,

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Speaker 2: every poll that is coming out has Joe Biden losing

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Speaker 2: now to Donald Trump. And I understand we're eleven and

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Speaker 2: a half months from the twenty twenty four election. A

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Speaker 2: lot can change. But I saw this story this morning, Buck,

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Speaker 2: and I couldn't help but laugh because I actually do

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Speaker 2: think it reflects the dire straits that the Biden administration

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Speaker 2: is finding itself in as they sit eleven and a

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Speaker 2: half of months away from the election, and they're trying

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Speaker 2: to say, well, we've been studying the incumbent campaigns of

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Speaker 2: other challenged individuals. It's a big article about, hey, we're

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Speaker 2: going to study what George W. Bush did in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and four in a challenging environment and manage to

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Speaker 2: win election.

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Speaker 1: And we're looking at.

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Speaker 2: Obama and what he did in the twenty twelve race

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Speaker 2: to try to make make his way back in what

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Speaker 2: was a supremely challenging environment. They're acknowledging that Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: is not in good shape, but they are so desperate

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Speaker 2: buck that they are considering having Joe Biden sign.

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Speaker 1: Up for a TikTok account. I can't I'm not making

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Speaker 1: this up.

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Speaker 2: They are trying to find any way that they can

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Speaker 2: to reverse a deep slide that they have seen in

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Speaker 2: voter support under the age of thirty and so the

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Speaker 2: brilliant minds at the Biden administration have started to significantly

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Speaker 2: debate inside of the president's brain trust whether or not

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Speaker 2: it makes sense for him to have an official TikTok account.

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Speaker 2: Now they've reached out to a lot of different high

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Speaker 2: end if you want to call them that maybe popular

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Speaker 2: TikTok influencers, to try to reach everyone. But they're also

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Speaker 2: simultaneously saying in some parts of the Biden administration, hey,

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Speaker 2: we need to ban this. We shouldn't be allowing federal

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Speaker 2: employees to use it. So you are more attuned to

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Speaker 2: TikTok than I am. Although I would point out that

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Speaker 2: the Clay and Buck Show to Be Fair is on TikTok,

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Speaker 2: and we are actually having a decent number of our

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Speaker 2: videos go viral.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: We had one this week have over five hundred thousand views.

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Speaker 2: My WNBA challenge got five million views on TikTok. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these are massive numbers in terms of how many people

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Speaker 2: are viewing them. If the Biden administration came to you,

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Speaker 2: Buck and they said, hey, we're tanking on voters under thirty. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: if you've watched the Republican debates, whether or not to

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Speaker 2: ban TikTok has been a big point of contention this

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Speaker 2: week certainly has not helped TikTok. That the bin Laden

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Speaker 2: endorsement that is occurring on the left wing in this

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Speaker 2: country has gone viral in many different ways. Would you

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Speaker 2: advise Joe Biden to join TikTok? Would you advise Vivek Ramaswami,

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Speaker 2: I believe is the only Republican candidate on TikTok? Would

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Speaker 2: you advise other Republican candidates to get on TikTok, fair, foul,

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Speaker 2: smart or not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, you would say do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm I think that Joe Biden should be on TikTok

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Speaker 3: for his own purposes. I mean, I you know, obviously

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Speaker 3: hope he doesn't win the presidency, but I think he

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Speaker 3: should be on TikTok. I think that other Republicans should

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Speaker 3: be on TikTok. I think you you use the weapons

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Speaker 3: of information dissemination that are at your disposal. Yeah, And

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Speaker 3: I think that he's seeding the battlefield to others is

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Speaker 3: a bad idea. I mean, think about what's going on

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Speaker 3: right now. People say, okay, well why are you guys

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Speaker 3: on TikTok? And I say, well, well, that's where all

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Speaker 3: of the youth in America is these days. They can

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Speaker 3: have some clay and buck takes thrown in there too,

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Speaker 3: content that we're already doing here in the radio show,

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Speaker 3: or it can be you know, just left wing lunatics

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Speaker 3: were saying, hey, Ben Laden had some really interesting points

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Speaker 3: in this letter, right. I mean, this is I think

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Speaker 3: that one of the mistakes that we've we've had in

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Speaker 1: Just we just are.

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Speaker 3: And that's been the case for a long time. There's

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Speaker 3: with Joe Rogan that because of Silicon Valley's geography, you

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: But I mean in terms of instantaneous global reach with

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Speaker 3: the entire United States, right, you know it Silicon Valley.

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Speaker 3: I mean theoretically, you know, this could have been in like, uh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it could have popped up anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Uh, And there were efforts I think even in like Dallas, Texas,

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Speaker 2: Got a little bit of a tech tech hub. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there have been other places that have made a run.

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Speaker 2: But Austin is not exactly known as a bastion of But.

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Speaker 3: You know, you you have the the communists in charge

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Speaker 3: of course people are gonna, yeah, well, the Chinese communists

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Speaker 3: well that's imperfect. China hacks into all of our stuff

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Speaker 3: all the time. Anyway, everybody, you know, China's getting access

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Speaker 3: I think that with TikTok, you know, you want to

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Speaker 3: use the platforms you have to get the messages out

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Speaker 3: that are in line with your ideology and your thinking.

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Speaker 3: And you also can learn how to really do an

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Speaker 3: amazing reverse here on a stake. You can learn how

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Speaker 2: So I think about TikTok a lot because my boys

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Speaker 2: use YouTube and TikTok is their preferred method by which

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Speaker 1: And this is not unique to the Travis family.

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Speaker 2: If your kids are out there, I saw Ali just

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Speaker 2: But a lot of young kids now use TikTok as Google,

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Speaker 2: continuing to grow in popularity. My solution, if I were,

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Speaker 2: you know, waving a magic wand buck, would be what

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Speaker 2: almost ended up happening, which is, I think China should

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Speaker 2: be forced to divest its American version of TikTok to

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Speaker 2: American owned individuals.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to say before. Yeah, same idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be you know, a regulation of it

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Speaker 3: that effectively protects our national security. Well, because people say

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not so the algorithm is incredibly successful.

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Speaker 2: disappointed sometimes the way the conversation happens because they've debated

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Speaker 2: I think the best way to address it is what

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Speaker 2: there's going to be some sort of non asymmetric warfare.

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Speaker 2: Because other than Twitter, we get banned all the time

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Speaker 2: Tommy is I love Tommy. She's super talented, she works

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Speaker 2: And so I would say, one, it should be owned

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Speaker 2: in America. That doesn't solve all the issues, but pivot.

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Speaker 2: There's a reason buck China doesn't allow Twitter, and doesn't

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Speaker 2: China is uniquely aware that internal dissent can be far

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Speaker 2: And so my argument's pretty simple. I don't think Facebook

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Speaker 3: know we've created We've effectively financially armed our biggest opponent

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Speaker 1: So that's what we've done.

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Speaker 3: And the elites in this country have gotten very rich,

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Speaker 3: and there was a recognition that China's.

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Speaker 1: Already fighting a trade war against us.

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Speaker 3: Basically, China already is cheating in all kinds of ways

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Speaker 2: The Magnifice sent mischief of Tad Lincoln, and Tad was

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Speaker 4: All of that's in the book, but it really is

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Speaker 4: and adults will learn as much or more than the kids.

437
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Speaker 4: But what happened is when Willie, the middle son of

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Speaker 4: Abraham Lincoln, dies in the White House, Tad Lincoln and

439
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Speaker 4: Abraham Lincoln become inseparable. He takes his son to review

440
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Speaker 4: the troops. He goes with him to Richmond. After the war.

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Speaker 4: Tad sleeps next to his father and watches him give

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Speaker 4: pardons to all these people who come to the White

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Speaker 4: House asking for forgiveness, and he absorbs the well. As

444
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Speaker 4: Christmas approaches, a turkey is brought to the White House.

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Speaker 4: Tad befriends the turkey, puts it on a leash, teaches

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Speaker 4: the tricks, and then Christmas Eve comes and the White

447
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Speaker 4: House chef collects Jack the bird and takes him to

448
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Speaker 4: the kitchen. Tad Lincoln totally freaks out, grabs the turkey,

449
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Speaker 4: runs upstairs to his father in tears and begs him

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Speaker 4: to extend a pardon to his bird, to his turkey,

451
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Speaker 4: and Abraham Lincoln gives his son Tad that pardon. That

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Speaker 4: is the first White House turkey pardon and the beginning

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Speaker 4: of this beautiful national tradition. But you know, when I've

454
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Speaker 4: seen it for years, it's kind of a goofy affair.

455
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Speaker 4: Now you realize the backstory, and it really is a study,

456
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Speaker 4: and it's an insight into Lincoln's mind. He saw Thanksgiving,

457
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Speaker 4: which Lincoln put on the calendar, by the way, as

458
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Speaker 4: a national holiday in eighteen sixty three, the same year

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Speaker 4: he pardons to Tad's turkey. He saw it as a

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Speaker 4: time of forgiveness, mercy to those in your family and commune,

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Speaker 4: and leading to a source of unity for the country. Boy,

462
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Speaker 4: do we need that today, guys?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just wondering, is that the first? Is

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Speaker 3: that the first ever time? I've never heard of somebody

465
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Speaker 3: having a pet turkey before me?

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Speaker 4: Neither, No, I didn't, but apparently, you know, I guess

467
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Speaker 4: when the poor boys alone in the house. It was

468
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Speaker 4: the goat and the turkey that arrived that was it.

469
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Speaker 4: So he took what he had and used it. But

470
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Speaker 4: the fact that he trained the thing put it on

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Speaker 4: a leash. And by the way, that turkey would continue

472
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Speaker 4: to live with the Lincolns for another couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: But you'll never look at a christ You'll never look

475
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Speaker 4: at a Thanksgiving turkey in quite the same way. It

476
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Speaker 4: just helps put I love origin stories, I mean, and

477
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Speaker 4: the whole this whole musical adventure I've been on. I

478
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: dug into all of these Christmas carols and discovered the

479
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Speaker 4: backstories of them, and it just blew my mind. We

480
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Speaker 4: totally misunderstand so much of the things that we just

481
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Speaker 4: take for granted and do.

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Speaker 2: Give us an example on a song that we don't

483
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Speaker 2: understand that everybody you will have heard that we play

484
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Speaker 2: all the time during Christmas.

485
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Speaker 4: Well, the biggest one, the most popular song of Christmas

486
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Speaker 4: probably jingle Bells. How many times have we heard jingle

487
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Speaker 4: bells are a sung it ourselves and you think, oh,

488
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 4: this is a happy Christmas song about bells ringing in

489
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Speaker 4: the snow. Right wrong. James Lord Pierpont wrote the song.

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Speaker 4: He wrote it in a tavern, guys, and it was

491
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Speaker 4: in the eighteen sixties eighteen fifties. A bar made a

492
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Speaker 4: test that he wrote it at a tavern. He was

493
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Speaker 4: swilling down the rum that they made in Medford, Massachusetts.

494
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Speaker 4: But here's the deal. When he snowed in Medford down

495
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Speaker 4: Main Street, they would drag race sleighs down the middle

496
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Speaker 4: of town. So and this guy, James Lord Pierpont, was

497
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Speaker 4: a notorious skirt taser. He ran after women no matter

498
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Speaker 4: where he traveled. When you break the song down, when

499
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Speaker 4: you realize the context and you look at the lyrics

500
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Speaker 4: a new you realize it is really a girl chasing,

501
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 4: drag racing, drinking song. I'm sorry to report that that's

502
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Speaker 4: what it is. So when I went into the studio

503
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Speaker 4: with Kevin Costa, the guy who arranged The Greatest Showman

504
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 4: and Jungle Book and Lion King for Disney, he rearranged

505
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: all these songs and we used that research to govern

506
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Speaker 4: the direction in which we would proceed, both in arrangements

507
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: and my performance on the album. So Our jingle Bells

508
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: is a little randy, it's a little bumpy and wild,

509
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: but it gives new context. And look, it's not all that.

510
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 4: There's some tender songs. I Heard the Bells, which was

511
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Speaker 4: written by Longfellow. He lost his wife just before Christmas.

512
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 4: His son came home from the Civil War nearly paralyzed,

513
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 4: and he hears bells down the street, and he gives

514
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Speaker 4: him hope. He finds new life in the hope of

515
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 4: those bells and what they promise. And then he wrote

516
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: this poem, I heard the Bells on Christmas Day, their

517
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: old familiar carol's play, and it goes on and on.

518
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: But we tried to capture all the emotions of Christmas,

519
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: but restore these songs to their real contexts, their real origins.

520
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 4: And you know, it's both carols that have been with

521
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 4: us for centuries and even modern classics. Jose Feliciano, Jose,

522
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 4: can we do a Boston over treatment of the song?

523
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 4: He agreed to do that. We did it on the album.

524
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 4: It's been at the top of Billboard's charts for weeks

525
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 4: and weeks, and I'm just look, I'm delighted the audience.

526
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 4: He obviously hears something new here and yet something very familiar.

527
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 4: And I love that.

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Speaker 3: We're speaking of Raymond Arroyo about his book The magnificent

529
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Speaker 3: Mischief of Tad Lincoln and he's also got the album

530
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Speaker 3: and tour going on. Where can people go to learn

531
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Speaker 3: more about the tour if they want to see you

532
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: in person?

533
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Speaker 4: Christmas, Mary and Bright is the name of the album.

534
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: The tour is happening. We open in Phoenix on November

535
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Speaker 4: twenty fifth, Thanksgiving weekend, then more in Dallas at the

536
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Speaker 4: House of Blues. Jose Feliciano is with me there. We

537
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 4: go to Tampa Cleveland, we end the tour, play and

538
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 4: you're coming a buck. You have to come into town

539
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: for this too. The Ryman Auditorium December twenty first, Jose Feliciano,

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Speaker 4: the Big Band and me and we have special guest stars.

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00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 4: Go to Raymondarroyo Christmas dot com. Raymond Royal Christmas dot

542
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: com is the address. I cannot wait to see everybody there.

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00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: Sounds fantastic.

544
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: Can I just we We've got all these people now

545
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: are going to be going to check out your tour

546
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: dates and buying your books.

547
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: But I want to cause some trouble for you. Raymond.

548
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: The best go ahead, the best and worst Thanksgiving sides.

549
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: And I'm I'm I'm not We're not pulling any punches here.

550
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 4: Okay, the best and worst I think personally the worst

551
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: is probably Cranberry sauce.

552
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: I hang up on it, hang up, I'm buying.

553
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: I like all the stuffing we have Oyster dressing in

554
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: New Orleans and Meloton dressing, odd things you probably don't

555
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 4: have elsewhere. So those are my favorite. My favorite Oyster

556
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 4: dressing and Meloton dressing, which Meloton's kind of a squash

557
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 4: or green squash that grows and buy your country. But

558
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: I never you know, I like fresh cranberry sauce, but

559
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 4: so often it's that canned thing and it comes, you know,

560
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: it looks like a little power there.

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00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: We are losing our Cranberry sponsor right now, Clay.

562
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: We just endorsprin Big Cranberry, and then you just come

563
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: on and just immediately decapit.

564
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 4: I loved it. I just I just I'm the form

565
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 4: of that, the solid gelatine form of that thing, like

566
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: a little barrel oil barrel there, a red oil barrel.

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Speaker 1: It kind of scares me, Raymond.

568
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 2: We had just won over Big Cranberry and then you

569
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: just totally Tanya Harding our Nancy Carrigan Cranberry dream here

570
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 2: just ran right in hit us, right, and the kneecap,

571
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: We're done if you.

572
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 4: Put it in the middle of the stuffing, particular particularly

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Speaker 4: oyster stuffing.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I was hoping. I was hoping that throw

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Speaker 3: What is it? What is the one that they love

576
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: in the South?

577
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Green bean casserole?

578
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: Is the Thanksgiving side that's so popular in the South

579
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: that doesn't exist anywhere else.

580
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 4: Naughty list. I don't like that, damn green bean.

581
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm very anti green bean, so we're not going to

582
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: get a green bean sponsorship. I think green beans probably

583
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: the most overrated of all the vegetable group. I hate

584
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: green beans like I won't eat a mouth and.

585
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: The Christmas what do they call that? Stupid fruitcake?

586
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: Right?

587
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 4: What do you call it?

588
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: I also anti fruitcake?

589
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: Oh? That stuff is like eating sawdust and grit. I

590
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: don't know what it is, but it's it's old. It

591
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: should never be consumed by human beings. Give that to animals.

592
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Speaker 3: Well, if you want to get on the holiday spirit, everybody,

593
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: check out Raymond's book and check out his tour. The

594
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Speaker 3: Magnificent Mischief of Tad Lincoln is the book that the

595
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Speaker 3: album One More Time.

596
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 4: Raymond, Christmas, Mary and Bright go to Raymond Royal Christmas

597
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: dot com. All the details are there. Please come see

598
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Speaker 4: me on the world. We're gonna have a good time.

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Speaker 2: Happy Holiday, Christmas, Happy Thanksgiving to everybody out there as

600
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Speaker 2: we get ready to roll in holiday's.

601
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Speaker 4: Merry Christmas to both of you and everybody.

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00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Listening, no doubt at all.

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Speaker 2: got Christmas coming up, New Year's everything going on. How

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Speaker 3: her name was. Her name is Kim, Kim the hair adresser.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for calling in. I hope I always behaved

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00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: well seated in the in the chair, and uh have

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Speaker 3: you ever gotten to truly? I will tell you I

657
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: got when I moved to Miami because I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go to like one of the local

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00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: places here.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you could really tell.

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00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: I don't even know if people at home could really tell,

662
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: but it was one of the It was the worst

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00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: haircut I've ever gotten in my life. And it was

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Speaker 3: because they there's a very common thing here. I think

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00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: it's called I don't know if it's a fade or

666
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: they like shave around your head and then sort of

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00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: faded in to the rest of your hair. And I basically,

668
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 3: like the back of my head six months ago was effective.

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Speaker 3: People couldn't see it when I went on TV whatever,

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00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: but it was shaved like it was almost all the

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00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: way all the way down. It was a very Miami haircut,

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Speaker 3: so you got to be careful. You don't know what

673
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Speaker 3: you're getting into. Sometimes.

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Speaker 2: My wife is still fired up about the haircut I

675
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: got for the day before our wedding.

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Speaker 1: You had some pretty funky haircuts back then.

677
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: I had some wacky haircuts over the years, But my.

678
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: Time, did you have this too, where like like like

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00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: circa nineteen ninety eight where people started doing like long hair,

680
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: like guys did long hairs but center part and behind

681
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: they'd put their hair behind that.

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00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: I did a lot of the ear tuck long hair

684
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: hair tuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My my wife said, first

685
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: of all, she was like, don't get your haircut because

686
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: I go to and I'm probably gonna lose some more

687
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: sponsors here somewhere. I go a lot to like great clips,

688
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: and you know, like the I pay like twenty dollars

689
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: for a haircut. I don't go to like fancy haircut places. Typically,

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00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: I'll just go into you know, mall place, mastercuts, whatever

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00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: these places are called. And the day before my wedding,

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00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: I went, and my wife, if she were here right

693
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: now and grabbed them mind would describe it as the

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00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: worst haircut that any groom has ever gotten in the

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00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: history of a wedding probably And it was a real

696
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: bowl cut, like the bowl cut that little.

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00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: Boys get, you know, like when this whole website right

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00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 3: didn't we actually didn't.

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00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: We did find my phot.

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00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: My senior year class photo is is an exercise in

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00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: in in wackiness. The boys, my three boys, and my

702
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: wife at one point all had as their backdrop, you know,

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00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: the picture on their on their iPads or their screens,

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00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: my senior year class photo. But this, uh, this photo,

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00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: the haircut that I got was awful. Her mom went

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00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: with me and we got back. She was like, just

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00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: how did you let this happen? Like what were you

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00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: thinking that you allowed this haircut to occur? So all

709
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: the all the wedding photos she considers to be ruined

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00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: because of my bowl cut.

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00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: That how is How is training your oldest son to

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00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: drive going?

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00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, uh, it is. It is

714
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: maybe the most terrifying thing I've ever done in my life,

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00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: is parent.

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00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: Why don'd you just hire a driving instructor? First of all,

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00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know how that works.

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00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: I think we do have a driving instructor, but he

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00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: has to have two hundred miles of instruction before the

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Speaker 2: driving instructor will take him. So we're in the process

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Speaker 2: of working our way towards two hundred miles and the

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00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: roundabout is terrifying. Also the number of people that will

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Speaker 2: be unhappy because we're not driving very fast, you know,

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00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: and they like drive by and you see him like

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00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 2: looking back at you and.

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Speaker 3: Sort of like a placard you can put in your

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00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: rear window that's student driver.

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00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: You know.

729
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would help because I'll look down he's like, man, Dad,

730
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: we're going really fast, and like we're going eighteen all right,

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Speaker 2: we're going eighteen miles an hour, buddy, you can step it.

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00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: Up a little bit, but uh, but yeah, it's It

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Speaker 2: is the most nerve wracking thing I have done as

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Speaker 2: a parent. And I'm not even sure what the co

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00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the actual birth. Watching the actual birth the

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Speaker 2: second most nerve racking, but the from a parenting.

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Speaker 1: Perspective, this is terrifying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can tell you puppy training is coming along.

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00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: It's really rough. The puppy wakes carry up every morning

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00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: at six o'clock in the morning to go play and

741
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: take it outside and stuff. I probably should take over

742
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: some of that duty myself, but so far Carrie's been

743
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 3: handling it.

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Speaker 1: Not a surprise to anybody. She's much more on it

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00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: than I am.

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Speaker 3: But the problem with trying to train the puppy is

747
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: that they're very cute and mischievous, and they want to

748
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: do things that you don't want them to do. But

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Speaker 3: then they just look at you with the puppy eyes,

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Speaker 3: play and then.

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Speaker 1: When do you do work? By the way, I'll be

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Speaker 1: at Georgia, Tennessee for Big Noon