WEBVTT - Ep. 3 The Investigation

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<v Speaker 1>Amory Monos was last seen on a crisp Ellie winter day,

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday afternoon in January of two thousand and six.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have memories of that day? Yeah, we were

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<v Speaker 1>all getting ready for school and myself, my brother, and

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<v Speaker 1>my sister, Crystal, her younger sister, was six. They used

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<v Speaker 1>to share a room and I used to sleep in

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<v Speaker 1>the next room with my mom, and I remember I

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<v Speaker 1>woke up and they were yelling at each other, my

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<v Speaker 1>brother and my sister, and I was like, what's happening?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Then my mom went over and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you guys fighting? They were fighting because my

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<v Speaker 1>brother unplugged her straight inner, plugged in his game boy

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<v Speaker 1>and they got in like the biggest fight ever. Crystal

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<v Speaker 1>was young, but she remembers the energy of that morning,

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<v Speaker 1>of the last day she saw her sister, the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of explosive feelings I remember having as a team whenever

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<v Speaker 1>anybody moved my stuff. The last memory that Crystal has

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<v Speaker 1>of her older sister isn't from that fight that morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that afternoon, after school, it was right before she

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<v Speaker 1>left that day. I looked outside. We had a really

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<v Speaker 1>long hallway and at the end of the door we

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<v Speaker 1>can see, like that garden that I had told you

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<v Speaker 1>about that we had. It was a big, lush garden

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<v Speaker 1>filled with flowers on one of the highest hills in

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<v Speaker 1>City Terrace. It's where her big sister taught her to dance.

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<v Speaker 1>We had like a wall. I remember she was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on it. She was sitting on it, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a white that white hoodie that she had and

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<v Speaker 1>some jeans, and like there's no context behind it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I remember I looked, and I've seen her

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on that wall. But I do remember. It's my

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<v Speaker 1>aunt next door. She said that she saw her through

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<v Speaker 1>her window. That's Becky, Emory's aunt and godmother her knee.

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<v Speaker 1>She says a family member saw Emory that afternoon standing

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the house. My aunt said that she saw

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<v Speaker 1>Emory inside the fence and this guy outside the fence talking,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she said that next time she looked, they

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<v Speaker 1>were gone. She saw Emory talking to a friend. It

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<v Speaker 1>was reported at the time that he was a member

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<v Speaker 1>of a male party crew. According to Emory's mother, Emory

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<v Speaker 1>left to go to a friend's house and said she

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<v Speaker 1>would be back by seven thirty or eight pm. When

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<v Speaker 1>her mom got home from the market, Emory wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, Emory's mom reported her missing. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>those copies, the fires. I remember we were walking around

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<v Speaker 1>putting them up. Crystal remembers they went looking for Emory

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<v Speaker 1>and posting flyers in the area. She remembers walking down

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<v Speaker 1>the street by her house. I remember we put one

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<v Speaker 1>on a red pull and we were just it was

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<v Speaker 1>an all night thing, like it was dark. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>it being dark. I remember being cold. We were just

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<v Speaker 1>going up and down the streets putting them on, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it was the next day. I

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<v Speaker 1>was calling her cell phone and I remember I was

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<v Speaker 1>in her room and I was calling her phone, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I maybe left her about twenty voicemails that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal assumed that Emory run away because she was mad

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<v Speaker 1>at their brother John, And I remember I was calling

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<v Speaker 1>her and I was like, you could come home now,

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<v Speaker 1>John's not mad at you anymore. Can you come home?

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<v Speaker 1>From my heart? Michael Duda Podcast Network, Vice and Ellie's Studios,

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<v Speaker 1>This is Party Cruz The Untold Story. I'm Jenness Malca.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of questions about what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>Emory that night. Where she went and why she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come home. Emory Miunius's lifeless body was found nearby this

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse on Marosol and Olympic and Boyle Heights, a popular

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<v Speaker 1>area for underground parties. Emory's murder was quickly connected to

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<v Speaker 1>the party crew scene by the LPD and the media.

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<v Speaker 1>Her killing, they think she was strangled, now tied to

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<v Speaker 1>the world of illegal underground parties. She went to one

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<v Speaker 1>and never came home. Oh, this is exactly the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of industrial neighborhood where a rave promoter can find a

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse to use for a night. In fact, it was

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<v Speaker 1>here on Mirosol, just south of Olympic where a fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old girl was found dead. Emory's links to the

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<v Speaker 1>party crew world was part of why her murder got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of media attention. Emory reportedly was part of

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<v Speaker 1>a crew girls who attended underground parties. The Vicious Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>are among the local party crews with their own websites

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<v Speaker 1>and party lines. Vicious Ladies was the name of the

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<v Speaker 1>party crew belonged to. They think her murder may be

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<v Speaker 1>connected to an underground rave party, but what evidence was

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<v Speaker 1>there that her murder was tied to party crews and

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<v Speaker 1>why is her key still unsolved. I want to understand

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with the investigation, what's clear, and what remains

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery to this day. A warning that this episode

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<v Speaker 1>gets graphic and talks in detail about a violent death.

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<v Speaker 1>On Wednesday morning, January twenty fifth, two thousand and six,

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<v Speaker 1>and six days after Emory went missing, an employee of

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<v Speaker 1>a warehouse in boil Heights who went to go pick

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<v Speaker 1>up some lumber found Emory's body. She was less than

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<v Speaker 1>five miles away from her home. Becky got the call

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<v Speaker 1>with the news when she was at work. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even remember. I just remembered going crazy and staircal and

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<v Speaker 1>the customer came and tried to call me down. But

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<v Speaker 1>then everybody I'll start coming to my office, and then

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<v Speaker 1>my supervisor wouldn't let me drive home about myself and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So my son came and picked me up, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that's when we went over there, and he's crazy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you're trying to think that it's a nightmare

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<v Speaker 1>that you're having, just can't believe it. That's when the

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<v Speaker 1>investigation began. I remember it so vividly because this was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the times where you didn't expect to be

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<v Speaker 1>called out on a suspicious death, especially involving a child.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Carrie Ricard. He's a former LPD homicide detective.

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<v Speaker 1>He retired in twenty thirteen after working for LPD for

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty five years. He's still volunteers as a reserve officer.

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<v Speaker 1>He started at the Holland Back stationeteen seventy nine. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of our homicides here gang related. Majority of them are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and the victims have either ties to gangs

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, maybe even we're looking at as a

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<v Speaker 1>suspect and a murder themselves. As a rule, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get many child homicides. I met Carrie at the station

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<v Speaker 1>and Boil Heights. Hollenbeck serves the community surrounding Elsarino, Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>Heights and Boil Heights. Carrie wore a striped long sleeve

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<v Speaker 1>button up with a blue tie. He rocked a mustache

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<v Speaker 1>and his hair was neatly combed to one side. He

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<v Speaker 1>also had a gun on his hip. He may be retired,

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<v Speaker 1>but he still looks like an old school TV detective

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<v Speaker 1>to me. We met in the afternoon, and by that

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<v Speaker 1>time most of the officers had gone home and in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and six. You were one of the detectives. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was the original lead detective on the Emory Muno's death.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the first detective to be called out to

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<v Speaker 1>the scene where she was found. It was midweek is

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<v Speaker 1>the Wednesday, to be precise, and I was at my desk.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the watch commander called up upstairs and told

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<v Speaker 1>me that the body of a young female had been

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<v Speaker 1>found in an abandoned warehouse area in our industrial section

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<v Speaker 1>of the division. When I got to the scene, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew this was a young girl. I put her

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<v Speaker 1>at thirteen or fourteen years old. Emory was fourteen, just

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<v Speaker 1>a few months shy of fifteen. There was a hole

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<v Speaker 1>in the fence that led from where we parked on

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<v Speaker 1>the street and walked up the street a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>to the hole in the fence, through the hole in

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<v Speaker 1>the fence back into the loading dock. Carrie was joined

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<v Speaker 1>by his partner and fellow homicide detective, Joe Braciato. He's

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<v Speaker 1>also now retired after over thirty years with the LPD.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where Emory's body was located. In the loading

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<v Speaker 1>dock area, Emory's body was lying on the concrete. She

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing jeans, white tennis shoes, and a white hoodie.

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<v Speaker 1>You just remember, I know she had like was a

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<v Speaker 1>Tinkerbell sweatshirt. When the corner investigator got there and one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first things we found was a school lunch card,

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<v Speaker 1>no picture on it, it had a name on it,

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<v Speaker 1>it was It turned out to be her card, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they did some background found out she had been

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<v Speaker 1>reported missing. She didn't have a cell phone on her

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<v Speaker 1>or any type of backpack or purse, so the school

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<v Speaker 1>lunch card helped them to identify her. And the clutter

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<v Speaker 1>and the loading dock area was a lot of drug

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<v Speaker 1>paraphernalia that we're on the ground. I remember the building

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<v Speaker 1>had discarded needles and it was a warehouse. The detective

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<v Speaker 1>set at the time had been used as a quote

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<v Speaker 1>grave site before. Despite all the litter and dust and

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<v Speaker 1>dirt around her, her clothes were very clean, even the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of her white tennis shoes, So Carrie thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was likely that she didn't die here, that her body

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<v Speaker 1>was brought here after her death, maybe even by several people.

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<v Speaker 1>The chain link fence nearby had some holes in it

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<v Speaker 1>big enough for a person carrying a body, though is

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<v Speaker 1>awkward yeah, and you know, one can surmise things from well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how do you carry a body and get

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<v Speaker 1>it through a hole in a fence and not snagged

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<v Speaker 1>the clothing on exposed chain link wires or not wrinkle

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<v Speaker 1>the clothing unless you've got maybe someone helping you. At first,

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<v Speaker 1>the detectives had difficulty understanding what had happened to Emory.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the issues I had is we couldn't determine

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<v Speaker 1>what she died from on the scene. It wasn't immediately

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<v Speaker 1>clear how she had died at first glance. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no gunshot or blood on her body, anything that told

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<v Speaker 1>him what had happened to Emory or how long she

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<v Speaker 1>had been dead. There were visible marks around Emory's neck,

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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't clear at first if they were the

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<v Speaker 1>cause of death or if the marks happened after her death.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, at first I thought, probably would be

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<v Speaker 1>an overdose, and but why would why would that be

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<v Speaker 1>something that comes to mind? Well, when you have no

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<v Speaker 1>apparent cause of death, you know, when there's there's no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of foul play. I mean, she was impeccably dressed,

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<v Speaker 1>her clothes weren't dirty. Kerry thought Emory's death might have

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<v Speaker 1>been an accident. We know that back in that era

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<v Speaker 1>that nitrous ox side was widely widely being used, and

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<v Speaker 1>different ways of using it too, where they could put

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<v Speaker 1>a bag over their head elastic band, well they could,

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<v Speaker 1>and then so they could better inhale it. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to jump in and say, I've watched friends and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different people do not and I've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen or heard of anyone putting a bag over their

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<v Speaker 1>head with an elastic band and the balloons people were, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all sorts of methods. So yeah, Carrie thought maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Emory had accidentally taken too much of something with a

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<v Speaker 1>friend and they had panicked and left her body there.

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<v Speaker 1>If we suspect foul play from the beginning, then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>handle it as a homicide, even if we don't call

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<v Speaker 1>it a homicide, such as in Emory's case. To better

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<v Speaker 1>understand the details of what might have happened to Emory,

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<v Speaker 1>we filed a public records request for the autopsy report.

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<v Speaker 1>The report was clinical, but there were small details about

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<v Speaker 1>how she was found that stuck with me. She had

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<v Speaker 1>her jeans bunched up at the bottom with an elastic band.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a style thing. When I was in high

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<v Speaker 1>school in the midouts rubber bands around the ankles to

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<v Speaker 1>make her pants slimmer, DIY cuffs for jeans. Her fingers

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<v Speaker 1>had tandlnes like maybe rings were missing from her hand.

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<v Speaker 1>She had on a gold chain with a religious pendant,

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<v Speaker 1>the type of jewelry that's gifted by family, and she

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<v Speaker 1>had a pair of eyebrowt tweezers on her and the

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<v Speaker 1>Tinkerbelt key chain on her belt loop that matched her

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<v Speaker 1>Tinkerbelt hoodie. It reminded me again that she was fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>a teen, a child, and the autopsy would reveal that

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<v Speaker 1>she hadn't died from an overdose. It was a homicide.

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<v Speaker 1>It was difficult to say how long Emory had been

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<v Speaker 1>dead when she was found, but she had been strangled.

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<v Speaker 1>Emory has a cause of death that's listed as asphyxia

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<v Speaker 1>due to net compression. This is Denise Brutone that I

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<v Speaker 1>worked for the Coroner's office investigating pediatric deaths for fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 1>and prior to that, I was an emergency room nurse

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<v Speaker 1>at Los Angeles County Hospital. She specifically worked on deaths

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<v Speaker 1>involving children, which is anyone under fourteen years old. Denise

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<v Speaker 1>was the coroner investigator who came to the crime scene

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<v Speaker 1>the day that Emory was found. She's seen over twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred cases in her career, but she immediately remembered

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<v Speaker 1>this case. These don't happen very often, so when you

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<v Speaker 1>called me, I didn't remember the year it happened, but

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<v Speaker 1>you called and started talking to me about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I can still picture the warehouse and I can still

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<v Speaker 1>picture her there on the scene. Denise did a cursory

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<v Speaker 1>exam on the body and wrote the initial report. Denise

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<v Speaker 1>told us it wasn't clear what Emory had been strangled with,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was likely with something about the width of

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<v Speaker 1>a shoelace at an upward angle. So is it that

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<v Speaker 1>the perpetrator, her assailant, was behind her and a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit taller than her. That would be a reasonable thing

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<v Speaker 1>to conclude. She also has on a gold chain and

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<v Speaker 1>that chain is not disturbed, it's not broken. Denise also

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out that the autopsy showed no signs of struggle

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<v Speaker 1>from Emery, no fingernail marks, no struggling to breathe, no

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<v Speaker 1>other wounds that were the signs of a fight. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to wonder about her level of consciousness. When this

0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:41.920
<v Speaker 1>assailant kills her. As part of her work, Denise in

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<v Speaker 1>her colleagues took all evident samples, samples from her fingernails,

0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.760
<v Speaker 1>stems from her clothing, a hair clipping, and a sexual

0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.040
<v Speaker 1>assault kit. I don't know if it was ever run.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be important to know that it was run,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's very important that the DNA is tested.

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<v Speaker 1>She wonders if any of the samples of DNA from

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<v Speaker 1>the crime scene were tested, whether the nail clippings actually

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<v Speaker 1>were tested in looking for DNA under her fingernails, and

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<v Speaker 1>whether the DNA that was under her fingernails was put

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<v Speaker 1>into Codis Codas is a database of DNA that the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI maintains if Emery's killer was in the system, it's

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<v Speaker 1>possible that running the samples would help the police identify them.

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<v Speaker 1>There are other marks, Like I mentioned, it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>there was a hickey on her chest that would have

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<v Speaker 1>saliva that would have DNA. Was that actually ran and tested.

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<v Speaker 1>We asked Joe, one of the former detectives, about the

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<v Speaker 1>DNA samples that were taken and what had happened with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I know she had possible evidence underneath their fingernails. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the requests that I had made

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<v Speaker 1>that DNA to be tested, but unfortunately I didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>up with a suspect at the time the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>DNA that they had, they were unable to identify anyone

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<v Speaker 1>with that amount. We reached out to LPD about any

0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.280
<v Speaker 1>DNA evidence in her case and they wouldn't share anything

0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:29.000
<v Speaker 1>about the investigation. But later on a detective supervisor for

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<v Speaker 1>the cold case unit told us that any DNA evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that was taken had been put into CODIS, the national

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<v Speaker 1>database for DNA, but there hadn't yet been a match.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Denise, the corner investigator, what does she think happened?

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<v Speaker 1>This is something that we've been just asking everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>has touched the case in some way if they personally

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<v Speaker 1>have a theory based on the outopsy or the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>to how she might have died. A young teenager is

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<v Speaker 1>a vulnerable victim. It just seems that she was incapacitated

0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:18.360
<v Speaker 1>in some way when this attack occurs, because she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the typical injuries that you would see. All I

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<v Speaker 1>need for sure at this point was that Emory, a

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen year old girl, was strangled to death, who killed

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<v Speaker 1>her and where and why we don't know, but Emory's

0:19:37.920 --> 0:20:03.439
<v Speaker 1>friends and family have theories. That's after the break To

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<v Speaker 1>this day, Emory's family is looking for answers. Little is

0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.000
<v Speaker 1>known about the evening she disappeared, so there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of theories coming from family, friends, anyone close to

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<v Speaker 1>the case, and given how few answers the family has

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 1>gotten from the police, I think it's important to look

0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.960
<v Speaker 1>at these theories to try and understand what was happening

0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:30.560
<v Speaker 1>in Emory's world around the time she was killed. The

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<v Speaker 1>family members we spoke to didn't really know much about

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<v Speaker 1>the party cruisine, but they did know about her circle

0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:42.479
<v Speaker 1>of friends, which at times overlapped because many were miners

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.119
<v Speaker 1>at the time. We're not using the names of the

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<v Speaker 1>people that family and friends have talked about. One of

0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.880
<v Speaker 1>the theories, and for information that we had at the time,

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:58.280
<v Speaker 1>somebody said that they thought her boyfriend. This is Becky again,

0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:02.919
<v Speaker 1>Emory's aunt. She's talking about one of Emery's old boyfriends,

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<v Speaker 1>who we're going to call R. A friend said that

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<v Speaker 1>he was in a party care at the time. R

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<v Speaker 1>is currently serving an almost thirty five years sentence at

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnella State Prison for attempted second degree murderer with an

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<v Speaker 1>enhancement for discharge of a firearm because they saw her

0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.960
<v Speaker 1>fighting one time with him on the steps of his house,

0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:26.760
<v Speaker 1>all outside steps, and that he pushed her. And then

0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:29.119
<v Speaker 1>I verified with my sister and she said, yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>did come home one day with a scrape on her

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<v Speaker 1>leg and a bruise on her arm. So then when

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<v Speaker 1>she passed, we were thinking, well, maybe that wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that he did it, and who knows, maybe

0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:48.160
<v Speaker 1>by accident it happened that was one of them. The

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<v Speaker 1>other one that I think is more believable to me

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:55.399
<v Speaker 1>is those four girls. Another thing that came up was

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility that her dad had to do with a

0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 1>fight with her friends from a previous middle school. Some

0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.880
<v Speaker 1>of those friends later joined the party. Creusne that at

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<v Speaker 1>one time there were her friends and then I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened, but the DA didn't like her. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why, you know, and I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>whole story, but they came over and they call her name,

0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 1>and so my mom came out there and Mary asked

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 1>her to go out there. My mom saw a movement

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<v Speaker 1>behind a park car, so my mom went out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gate to look and she saw two more girls

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<v Speaker 1>behind this car. Total was four, two of them long

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<v Speaker 1>with a back. Her mom ended up transferring Emory to

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<v Speaker 1>a different school, But what we heard Becky and others

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<v Speaker 1>talk most about was that her dad had something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with her friend's ex boyfriend who were going to

0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:57.920
<v Speaker 1>call us that between them there had been some tense moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Becky heard a story that Emory had introduced her friend

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<v Speaker 1>to a new guy at a party and the x

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<v Speaker 1>S had found out, and he called Emory and told

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:12.879
<v Speaker 1>her that she had no business battling between them two.

0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Emory was going to be sorry that she did this.

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<v Speaker 1>We've tried to get in contact with Emory's friend who

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>used to date us. We called, texted, written emails, commented

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<v Speaker 1>on social media posts, reached out to her in various

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<v Speaker 1>ways over the course of months. While we believed she

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>saw our messages, she never responded to us. This friend

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<v Speaker 1>was also the person that Emory said she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to visit on the evening she disappeared, and according to

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.000
<v Speaker 1>another friend, she may have been a member of the

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Vicious Ladies, Emory's party crew. We've also tried to find

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and reach out to s the friend's ex boyfriend, but

0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>we haven't gotten any responses to our calls and emails,

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and we haven't been able to confirm if he was

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<v Speaker 1>in a party crew. We also emailed Emory's old boyfriend

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:12.959
<v Speaker 1>are in prison. He did not respond. It's hard to

0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 1>hear about all these difficult relationships and Emory's life, and

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<v Speaker 1>while some of the details are scary, none of the

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>stories or rumors are by any means evidence of murder.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that Emory's family and the LAPD agree on

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 1>is that whoever killed Emory was likely someone who knew her.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Carrie Ricard, the former detective again. To meticulously

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>take someone somewhere, and it's kind of almost not posing them,

0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>but to gingerly handle them, meticulously place them, and that's

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of like handling them with a degree of respect,

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and a stranger wouldn't do that, but someone with maybe

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 1>some remorse might. According to Kerry, there won't be any

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>answers on our case without someone new coming forward with information.

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Witnesses is going to be the primary solution factor in

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>this case. This is not a case that's scientifically going

0:25:17.600 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to be solved without In the absence of witnesses, it's

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>not going to happen. I'm curious, what do you want

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:31.200
<v Speaker 1>people to know about this case. I would like them

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to know that if people think the police don't care,

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>they won't care. That's why I mentioned a lot of

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the resources that went into the investigation from the start.

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Kerry says, the entire homicide squad was actually on duty

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that day and so a lot of its colleagues were

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<v Speaker 1>able to go to the crime scene. It's almost unheard of.

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 1>They have five homicide detectives that one homicide scene when

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not even sure it's a homicide. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always at the ready for just the right tip to

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:05.160
<v Speaker 1>come in and your listeners, you know, I would want

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>them to know that that just remember the three words

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Central Bureau Homicide. They're the ones that have the case.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty nineteen, Hollenbeck Community Police Station closed down their

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>homicide unit and all of their cases were sent to

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Central Bureau. Central Bureau now handles homicides across a large

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<v Speaker 1>part of eastern Los Angeles like downtown La MacArthur Park,

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Foil Heights, and Eagle Rock. They are the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>now have Emory's case. And because there are a few

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>leads on it right now. It's been pulled off the shelf.

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>About five months after we started calling LAPD and looking

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>into her unsolved case, we found out that Emory's case

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>was being worked on again with new detectives, and it

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<v Speaker 1>has a two detectives that actually are a signed it

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and are working on it. But it can easily get

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:08.880
<v Speaker 1>cold again. The LAPD told us in an email that

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>while it is a cold case because of its age,

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's currently being worked on as fresh. They told us

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 1>this was because there was new information provided, but they

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell us what the information is, and they told

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 1>us they don't talk to the media during a fresh investigation.

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Carrie was only on the case for about three months

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>before his assignment changed, but he says they had already

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 1>done a ton of talking to people. I think before

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I left we were up too close to thirty interviews

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and then and things were just getting started on it.

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>So I would assume, my gotcha, it's got to be

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 1>sixty or more people that have been spoken. According to Becky,

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>there have been at least seven different detectives that have

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 1>been put on Emory's case since two thousand and six,

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>as it's been shuffled around whether or not this fresh

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>investigation will mean any new information for the family, We

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know. There remains a lot unknown about what happened

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to Emory, including whether her death was directly tied to

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 1>the party crew scene. Even the detectives we spoke to

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>couldn't pin down any concrete connection. We don't even know

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>really where the crime scene is. We're calling the crime

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>scene where the body was found. And when we talk

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 1>about time of death, if one was to look at

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the death report, it would be you know, January twenty

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty nine o'clock. Well, no, she didn't die then. We

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know what time she died. I think we couldn't

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 1>even verify that she even went to a rape party

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>that night. We had conflicting information on that. So did

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>she go or didn't she go? You know, she was

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>telling people that she was going to go, but and

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>when we never came up with a location, we just

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't It wasn't that location where she was found.

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>We're not sure who Emory was telling that she was

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>going to a party. Nobody we interviewed, friends or family

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>told us that she was going to one that night.

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>When Emory was found she was wearing a Tingerbell hoodie

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>and tennis shoes. Close she was found with with the

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>close she went missing with, and it was nothing party

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>is that she would actually wear to be at a party,

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>especially if there was a party that her party crew

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>was throwing. Brian Garcia, also known as Spooky, dated Emory.

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't in the party crew scene, but he attended

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>flyer parties and he knew the Vicious Ladies. Their party

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>crew was a whole female party crew at the time,

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>so they, you know, it was always like trying to

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>compete and see who looked better, So they always wanted

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to be out there and just looked good, you know.

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Brian met Emory on an old school party line, the

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>kind were you dial a number and get connected with

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>teams from all over, just random people. Before all this

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Instagram MySpace thing, there used to be a party line

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and Emory happened to be at one of her friend's house.

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>The phone was handed over to her. We had a conversation,

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the vibe was great. We kicked it off and you know,

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>we exchanged numbers. He has a picture of the m

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>chuck e cheese when they went for her birthday. Their

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>faces are smoshed against each other. Pookie has his tongue out,

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Emory's eyes big and dark even in a black and

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>white photo. Pooky couldn't believe the response when she disappeared

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and was found murdered. I was very upset at the

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<v Speaker 1>media and LAPD because the coverage was based of her

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<v Speaker 1>being part of a party crew and a party goer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess they based it off because of where

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<v Speaker 1>she was found, being in an abandoned warehouse on Boil

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<v Speaker 1>Heights in fact, to be based it off, oh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she was at a flier party being a minor, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably at a point overdosed in some type of

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<v Speaker 1>drugs at whatnot. It was just not right. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't at this party. But the party crewsine became

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<v Speaker 1>cemented as part of her public image. They're advertised not

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<v Speaker 1>only through the flyers being passed out at schools, but

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<v Speaker 1>they are all also advertised on the MySpace dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the former detective speaking at a two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>seven press conference for Emory's case. Police say the rave

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<v Speaker 1>was posted on the popular MySpace website. In a two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six press release by LAPD about Emory's case,

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<v Speaker 1>they meet it a point to include the line quote

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<v Speaker 1>her death may be related to underground rave parties, which

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<v Speaker 1>are held in local abandoned warehouses common to the area

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<v Speaker 1>and advertised on MySpace dot com. The party scene well

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<v Speaker 1>was thrown out there, and I know that created a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Internet chatter, but LA then didn't really helped

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<v Speaker 1>haste too much. This is Joe Braciato today. When I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him about his views of party crews sixteen years later,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I mean they were in my opinion, they

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<v Speaker 1>were basically harmless. They were victims. In our interview, he

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<v Speaker 1>told me they even checked Emory's MySpace to look for

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<v Speaker 1>any online messages related to partying, but it didn't help

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<v Speaker 1>them get any closer to who killed her. And in

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<v Speaker 1>our interview with Kerrie Ricard, the other detective we spoke to,

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<v Speaker 1>he says he didn't see any evidence of a recent

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<v Speaker 1>party at the abandoned warehouse. That particular building wasn't too

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<v Speaker 1>conducive to a rape party. There's just too much debris

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<v Speaker 1>around where you could hurt yourself or step on something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you need a little bit more of a space.

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<v Speaker 1>But still that was the one line of information that

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<v Speaker 1>would get added to any news reports about her by

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<v Speaker 1>LPD and by reporters that our death might have been

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<v Speaker 1>related to rape or underground parties, illegal rave party, illegal

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<v Speaker 1>rave party, underground parties, I flyer parties, party crews, flyer parties,

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:40.959
<v Speaker 1>underground flyer party, flyer parties, party cruiser, underground party. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the scene was the Boogeyman or some kind of monster

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<v Speaker 1>looming in the dark. This is spooky again. These party

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<v Speaker 1>crews would go really hard at these parties to compete

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<v Speaker 1>to those the best parties, become a popular party crew,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess game across to being put out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gang because people started franking people and some party

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<v Speaker 1>boards wouldn't go to certain events because they were scared

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<v Speaker 1>that this party crew was going to show up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. But it was definitely not a game. Gangs,

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>gang adjacent illegal parties, kids drinking. That's how the party

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<v Speaker 1>crewsine came across in the media. I know it sounds bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes gang members did go to parties and there were

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people under twenty one drinking. People did

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<v Speaker 1>stupid things, and sometimes people got hurt. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>another side of the party creusine, but I feel was ignored,

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<v Speaker 1>misunderstood and rarely talked about. That it wasn't just any

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<v Speaker 1>teens gone wild party. It was a whole world built

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally for us by us. From how we designed our logos.

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<v Speaker 1>Our logo was a play with money, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>smoking a blunt. It was like a south Park beam

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<v Speaker 1>like the link characters from South Park, like dressing blue

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<v Speaker 1>wood glasses, to how we secured the spot. The parties

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<v Speaker 1>were always like somebody's grandma's backyard. Hey, shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>the grandma's at pas for allowing us to party on

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<v Speaker 1>our spots for like one hundred and fifty bucks. And

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<v Speaker 1>the economics of party that was the majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>money that was being made in any Flyer party was

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<v Speaker 1>through the nas. Did our goals so like just do

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<v Speaker 1>like three to four, three to five racks? That's next time.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was written, reported, and hosted by me Ja.

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<v Speaker 1>Our show is produced and reported by Sofia Pelissa car

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria Lejandro, and Kyle Chang, and edited by Antonia Shido.

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<v Speaker 1>Additional editing by Annie Abelis, fact checking by Nadia Alista,

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<v Speaker 1>Sound design and original music composition by Kyle Murdock. Our

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<v Speaker 1>supervising producer is Janet Lee. Art by Julie Ruiz and

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<v Speaker 1>Victua Collon. Our executive producer from Vice Audio is Kate Osbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>Our executive producers from Elias Studios are Antonia Seedhivo and leog.

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