Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot
Speaker 1: screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys app. Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it is time for another edition
Speaker 1: of mix Shots. As we get you set for a
Speaker 1: press conference coming your way at two o'clock Central time.
Speaker 1: That's when the head coach we'll address the media, Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: We'll get more information on what's going on here at
Speaker 1: the Star. But we've got our source for information, of course,
Speaker 1: one Mickey Spagnola. But before Mickey says anything, we've got
Speaker 1: Everson Walls hooking up remotely for this edition of mix Shots. Hello, Everson, Hello,
Speaker 1: can you hear me? Am? I delayed too too badly.
Speaker 1: You're doing just fine, just fine, Just hang right in there.
Speaker 1: Well thanks guys. All right, see before we probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have figured out how to do this with him, not
Speaker 1: with us, but before the pandemic, and yeah, we figured
Speaker 1: out how to even even if you were away, you
Speaker 1: can still be a part of the show. So as
Speaker 1: long as he's got WiFi. Yeah, all right, Mickey, Yes,
Speaker 1: I have WiFi and guess what else. Guess what else?
Speaker 1: I am about to try and watch the show and
Speaker 1: be honest at the same time if I I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can do it. Everson Walls is multitasking
Speaker 1: as we speak. Yes, make sure you mute the show though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta make yeah, make sure that you're volume on
Speaker 1: whatever you're watching it on your iPad or whatever all
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, all right, So Mickey gets us up
Speaker 1: to speed on what we know as of one h
Speaker 1: two on a Monday after the Cowboys Texans is we
Speaker 1: enter the final week of training camp. Really got five
Speaker 1: more cuts to make tomorrow, got to get to eighty
Speaker 1: so who knows they may do it at some point
Speaker 1: today or although yeah, last week they waited until three
Speaker 1: o'clock men on Tuesday afternoon to make that. I wonder
Speaker 1: if I wonder if you wait till then tomorrow if
Speaker 1: you're practicing, like, oh yeah, don't practice and get somebody hurt,
Speaker 1: that right, And that could be the difference there, because
Speaker 1: you'll call last week there, we had the Monday night
Speaker 1: practice and so they've got one more look at those
Speaker 1: players and see where they are. Make sure everybody gets
Speaker 1: through that practice. Okay, tomorrow. You know in anybody that
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna cut pull a hamstring, but it
Speaker 1: is a morning practice tomorrow, right, Yeah, I guess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you might as well wait and make sure not
Speaker 1: if you know they're gone. Yeah, that's true, because you
Speaker 1: never know who somebody's got, Oh my hamstring, my hamstring,
Speaker 1: and I need an injury settlement. You go, that's a
Speaker 1: great point, yes, everyson. Now, what I was gonna say was,
Speaker 1: you know, we never really talk about what the players
Speaker 1: are feeling when they know that cut is coming. You know,
Speaker 1: when cut day is coming, it's uh, you know a
Speaker 1: little bit discerning for the players that know that they're
Speaker 1: kind of on the chopping block. Right. I remember being
Speaker 1: a free agent, me and Michael Downs. We're in the
Speaker 1: same room together, not drafted. We have all these twenty
Speaker 1: five rookies back there with us, also looking not looking
Speaker 1: forward to the cut date. And you know, when the
Speaker 1: knock is coming on the door, do they still knock
Speaker 1: on the door when they went training camp? Did they
Speaker 1: still come knock on the door and ask for the
Speaker 1: ask for the playbook? We have technology now, Everson, they
Speaker 1: could just text you to coach McCarthy wants to see it,
Speaker 1: but at least they won't say they don't. They want
Speaker 1: to text you and that you've just been cut. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't go back, just bring your Yeah. But you know,
Speaker 1: you know what it means when you get that text though, right,
Speaker 1: that's the knock. It's still the knock. So that's what
Speaker 1: I think it's so bad. I remember being in bed
Speaker 1: because they would come early in the morning and you
Speaker 1: knew when the cut was coming, and I was literally
Speaker 1: trying to go to sleep because you can hear the
Speaker 1: knocks coming down the hallway, right, I mean you're in
Speaker 1: the rookie door, so knocks is coming down the hallway
Speaker 1: and you're hoping that. It's almost like in the Bible, right, Bill,
Speaker 1: you know you gotta put the blood on the rams,
Speaker 1: blood on the door, right, Yeah, and hope hope they passed.
Speaker 1: You hope it passes. You know, you hope it passes. Oh. Man,
Speaker 1: such a feeling, such a feeling. Man. Yeah, you didn't
Speaker 1: want to see Bruce Mays walking down the hallway, right.
Speaker 1: So other than that, Um, you know, I think we
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about because after that preseason game, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we have a backup quarterback controversy, Yes,
Speaker 1: we do, or at least a competition that's real, right.
Speaker 1: You know, this franchise has been known for quarterback controversies
Speaker 1: going back, um well at least at least a nineteen
Speaker 1: Stock and Morton, but probably before that too. And now
Speaker 1: now you can go even further. Yes, uh and Tetle right,
Speaker 1: Eddie LeBaron and ed Yeah. Um, and so now we've
Speaker 1: got a backup quarterback controversy. Well, I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you think, because um, you know, Cooper Rush looked awfully
Speaker 1: good and they really hadn't had a chance to see
Speaker 1: him that much because he first had the back issue,
Speaker 1: he missed practice in training camp, and then he had
Speaker 1: the shoulder ding and he missed practice, and so they're
Speaker 1: they're were intent on getting him more reps in the
Speaker 1: first half than he had been previously. And you know,
Speaker 1: after two series they brought him in and you know,
Speaker 1: he played pretty well and you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if Gilbert took a step back or whatever, but it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see tomorrow how they divvy up the
Speaker 1: snaps if Dak is not in there right away with
Speaker 1: the first team when they go to team and see
Speaker 1: if they give Cooper Rush some of those because Gilbert's
Speaker 1: got them all so far, so so we'll be be
Speaker 1: able to tell who's the first guy up after Dak.
Speaker 1: You would think so, right, or at least they want
Speaker 1: to They want to see, right, And I think they
Speaker 1: need to explore it because, you know, again, if you
Speaker 1: don't have a clear cut winner, then you don't have
Speaker 1: anybody you're really you know, sink your teeth into and
Speaker 1: you might have to keep both just to be sure
Speaker 1: that you got one. And ever Sinema, before you chime
Speaker 1: in on this, I want to ask Mickey one more
Speaker 1: question about that. Now. You talked with Mike McCarthy before
Speaker 1: the game. It was Uncountdown to kick off on the
Speaker 1: pregame show, and I know that the plan was to
Speaker 1: use Gilbert and Rush in the first half. Right. Do
Speaker 1: you think that the plan was two series for Gilbert
Speaker 1: and then Rush or the Because I like what they saw.
Speaker 1: As it turned out, Rush got in basically midway of
Speaker 1: the first quarter. I think they the plan was to
Speaker 1: get him more than Gilbert in that first half, maybe
Speaker 1: get him some with some of the guys on that
Speaker 1: first team offense, which is only fair right, and I
Speaker 1: think he took advantage. I think he took advantage, you know,
Speaker 1: and from Gilbert standpoint, you know, I understand what happened.
Speaker 1: But again, when you step up in the pocket like that,
Speaker 1: you got to know that the clock's ticking. You got
Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball. You can't be looking
Speaker 1: around and still holding onto it. And once you step up,
Speaker 1: the ball's got to come out. And he hung onto
Speaker 1: the ball and you get a stripped sack and it
Speaker 1: leads to a touchdown. So that was not gonna get
Speaker 1: You know, you can't blame you just can't blame him.
Speaker 1: Blame it all. You know how it comes to a sack.
Speaker 1: It's all about the lineman and the quarterback working together.
Speaker 1: I think the flash of on rushing players coming in,
Speaker 1: you know how it is, the quarterbacks get like a
Speaker 1: deer in headlights. He saw it coming and he just
Speaker 1: really didn't have a way out. He kind of panicked
Speaker 1: while he stepped in. And you know that happens with
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks. But it always looks bad for
Speaker 1: you as a quarterback when you're trying to establish yourself
Speaker 1: and here and the timing is bad. Now right, he
Speaker 1: comes in, he gives up a sack. His stats weren't
Speaker 1: all that good. It didn't see him impress you in
Speaker 1: any way. And all of a sudden, the Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: comes in and he balls out. So the timing is
Speaker 1: really bad in regards to Garret Gilbert. But how seriously
Speaker 1: do the coaches take his lack of initiative in his
Speaker 1: first couple of series. Well, I think if you listen
Speaker 1: to Mike McCarthy after the game, he didn't seem too
Speaker 1: enthused about Gilbert's performance. And again, my point is, when
Speaker 1: you step up in the pocket like that, you got
Speaker 1: to assume someone's coming from behind right, and that's what
Speaker 1: got him. And then the thing that that Cooper Rush did.
Speaker 1: Number one, the touchdown passed to Cedric Wilson in the
Speaker 1: back of the end zone. That's a heck of a
Speaker 1: not only a heck of a read, because he explained
Speaker 1: afterwards that he knew he was getting one on one
Speaker 1: into the back of the end zone. And number two,
Speaker 1: it was a heck of a throw. And then on
Speaker 1: the screen passed the Pollard for the touchdown. They blitzed,
Speaker 1: and they blitzed right into the screen. And the neat
Speaker 1: thing that happened there was that Pollard chipped the guy
Speaker 1: that was blitzing and then got out in the fist side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he got out in the flat and opened himself
Speaker 1: up for Cooper Rush to throw him the pass. And
Speaker 1: then you know, the offensive lineman did a heck of
Speaker 1: a job getting out in space, Zach Martin Tyler Beads, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to get him into the end zone. So you know,
Speaker 1: you got to give him credit for you know what,
Speaker 1: did he have ten of twelve I think completions? That
Speaker 1: was pretty good. So I just think it's going to
Speaker 1: give them something to think about. And the other thing
Speaker 1: about it, as far as Cooper Rush, who's concerned the Texans.
Speaker 1: When you look at who is going up against, the
Speaker 1: Texans still had first teamers in the game, so it
Speaker 1: was a good gauge of It wasn't like he was
Speaker 1: doing it against their backups. And really, when you look
Speaker 1: at the makeup of the Texans roster, what they did
Speaker 1: in the off season, they acquired a lot of veteran
Speaker 1: guys who are basically making the veteran minimum and so
Speaker 1: they are experienced guys in the league. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: he was going up against rookies who aren't going to
Speaker 1: be playing in this league, and so I think it
Speaker 1: was a good gauge for for what Cooper Rush can do.
Speaker 1: And I think the other tipping point was they left
Speaker 1: those first team other than Tyron Smith, they left the
Speaker 1: rest of the first team offensive lying in there for
Speaker 1: him to work behind. So yeah, well we'll see where
Speaker 1: that one goes. And then just keep your catch a
Speaker 1: waiver wire. Can't you see how important this time is
Speaker 1: for Polote. You just see him getting even better and better,
Speaker 1: learning the defense more and more. He is going to
Speaker 1: be one of the most capable backups in the NFL
Speaker 1: this year. He is going to be extremely important to us,
Speaker 1: especially towards the beginning of the season because you know,
Speaker 1: let's be real, Dak and Zeke, they're going to be
Speaker 1: a little bit rusty during the first part of the season.
Speaker 1: And this the really consistent players and consistent ones that
Speaker 1: showed up, Guys like Pollard, guys like be honest, you know,
Speaker 1: those players are the ones that you're going to see.
Speaker 1: They're going to kind of carry the baton a little
Speaker 1: bit more than you would want them to doing the
Speaker 1: regular part the first part of the season because they've
Speaker 1: gotten the most work well, and I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of fans out there who think that Pollard should
Speaker 1: have been getting more work to begin with. But but
Speaker 1: you can see how Pollard will be used more than
Speaker 1: he was. It only natural because he's making progressions in
Speaker 1: his career and now in his third year, there's more
Speaker 1: of a confidence level that he can pick up a blitz,
Speaker 1: he can do he can do things, and it makes
Speaker 1: Zeke all the more fresh as he goes deeper into game.
Speaker 1: And I think the other thing you will see you
Speaker 1: will not see it in preseason is them lining up
Speaker 1: Zeke and Pollard at the same time. I think he'll
Speaker 1: see some of that, and a lot of that is
Speaker 1: because both of all that would be nice. Both of
Speaker 1: them are threats in the past game. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could you can line up either Pollard or Zeke in
Speaker 1: the slot if you want to, and they can run
Speaker 1: routes from the slot exactly. Now. The other thing, and
Speaker 1: it's what I wrote about after the game Saturday night,
Speaker 1: was the best thing I saw in that on that
Speaker 1: night was Dak Prescott's workout prior to the team came out.
Speaker 1: All right, let me hold you on that. We're going
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. Today we need to take a break
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Speaker 1: one fan of the year. Here. We got through a
Speaker 1: flawless week. We thought Mickey had spit the whole offseason
Speaker 1: working on his man skills, and now it's it feels
Speaker 1: like we're we're in regular season form already, and where
Speaker 1: where I'm telling you? You can't do that? All right?
Speaker 1: The most important thing that happened on Saturday night at
Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium. What was it, Mickey? It was
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's one hour workout one hour, one hour, and
Speaker 1: he spent nearly twenty minutes, maybe thirty minutes doing his
Speaker 1: rehab for his ankle, doing the on the chords, off
Speaker 1: the chords, side step, lunges, high steps, you name it.
Speaker 1: He worked these fifteen yard exercises with Britt Brown for
Speaker 1: nearly a half hour. It worked up a good sweat,
Speaker 1: and then he went to the throwing session. Now we
Speaker 1: got to the important and for about thirty minutes, he
Speaker 1: threw to TJ. Vasher who's still on physically unable to
Speaker 1: know he's on non football injury and zeke He threw
Speaker 1: pass after pass after pass, right around fifty passes scripted.
Speaker 1: Doug nust Meyer had the script in his hand. He
Speaker 1: was throwing out in stops, h swing passes, even dropping
Speaker 1: back under center and handing the ball off to zeke
Speaker 1: H and everything was flawless. He had no problems throwing
Speaker 1: the football, showed no sign of any problem with the
Speaker 1: strained muscle, the lat muscle that has kept him out
Speaker 1: of the competitive part of practice. Throwing since July twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: I believe the date was and U and only one
Speaker 1: ball hit the ground. And as Mike McCarthy said, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that wheel route that Dak didn't run or
Speaker 1: Zeke didn't run right, But other than that, every pass
Speaker 1: was right on the money. Now, it didn't throw any
Speaker 1: nine routes, like throw it thirty forty yards, but you
Speaker 1: know when you're running the uh twenty yard out that
Speaker 1: that's a probably a thirty yard pass. So what this was,
Speaker 1: it was like a pro day workout for Dak Press
Speaker 1: exactly what it was, and just a longer version of it.
Speaker 1: And the only thing that was missing, able to see,
Speaker 1: able to watch all of that, it was before that.
Speaker 1: That's why I thought it was so important to point
Speaker 1: that out. Uh. And the only thing that was missing
Speaker 1: was a pass rush. Although at a couple of times
Speaker 1: the guys that were helping them did kind of cross
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage with their hands up in the air.
Speaker 1: They just kind of tried to distract. They have the
Speaker 1: broomsticks out, No, they didn't have the broomsticks out. That's
Speaker 1: the that's the basketball, that's the basketball. But it's a
Speaker 1: matter of fact that briefly back to UM, I think
Speaker 1: Missouri was gonna play Houston. I think they were playing here.
Speaker 1: We go here and practice, and in practice they were
Speaker 1: using broomsticks up in the air to simulate somebody that
Speaker 1: was seven. Yeah, absolutely, But anyway it was it was
Speaker 1: he threw more in that workout than he would have
Speaker 1: if he took snaps in the game, because if he
Speaker 1: took snaps in the game, he might have thrown ten passes,
Speaker 1: so that through fifty. So they should have charged separate
Speaker 1: admission and someone could have come in and see, that's
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. You loved that, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So here's an idea. I got an idea for Sunday morning. Okay.
Speaker 1: We advertised the stadium tours, okay, and so you've got
Speaker 1: a pre game before the gates open. This is to
Speaker 1: watch the Dak workout. It's a stadium too, and you
Speaker 1: can charge high dollars. That means about ten o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, nine thirty. You need to got to coordinated
Speaker 1: with Dak. Right where Dak, when are you coming out? Well,
Speaker 1: if they opened the gates at ten, then Dak needs
Speaker 1: to go ahead and do his workout between nine and
Speaker 1: ten and we've got the Dak Stadium tour. There you go, there,
Speaker 1: you need to do that. But again, Dax got to
Speaker 1: get his cut. Now, he's got to get his cut.
Speaker 1: But again he threw me he's already got his cut.
Speaker 1: He threw more passes in that workout, yeah, right, than
Speaker 1: he had if he had played in the game. And
Speaker 1: as Jerry Jones said on the pregame show that if
Speaker 1: this was Tampa Bay tonight, Dak Prescott would have been
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys and maybe they
Speaker 1: should have invited in Adam Schefter. Who's okay, Okay, Mick
Speaker 1: created That's where I was headed right there. I was going,
Speaker 1: That's what I was going. So Mickey's not buying the
Speaker 1: report that there's gonna be issues as the season goes along.
Speaker 1: You know, anytime you're coming back from an injury, can
Speaker 1: always have issues. But let's not act like the issues
Speaker 1: are going to hamper him when he takes the field
Speaker 1: against Tampa. The only issue he might have is just
Speaker 1: getting in the swing of things looking down the field.
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you they've got how many days now
Speaker 1: before that open seventeen, and they're probably gonna get five
Speaker 1: to six ten practices in and if he gets in
Speaker 1: against team, he'll start to see that stuff. They still
Speaker 1: have the opportunity, doesn't have to play in a game,
Speaker 1: but they still have the opportunity to play against the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. So I have a question, Uh, what in
Speaker 1: the heck is Adam getting his information from number one?
Speaker 1: And I also have to want to ask the answer
Speaker 1: this as well, spags Um is da being patient with
Speaker 1: this plan? Those are the two things I want that
Speaker 1: we're gonna find. We're gonna find out tomorrow night on
Speaker 1: the Hard Knocks, right, They're they're making him be They're
Speaker 1: making him be patient with this plan. And as Jerry
Speaker 1: went on to say, uh, if if, if we're gonna,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna try to keep him at rest, then
Speaker 1: let's double down on the rest. So they're being more
Speaker 1: cautious than I think they really need to be to
Speaker 1: try to make sure that this doesn't reoccur. Uh, And
Speaker 1: I don't know where and see, if this was a
Speaker 1: big story, then then what should have happened is ESPN
Speaker 1: writes a big story. But this was just said my
Speaker 1: understanding in passing in an interview, and then later that
Speaker 1: night or the next morning. ESPN writes a story quoting
Speaker 1: sources saying that Dak's ready to go. So I think,
Speaker 1: you know, got the twitter verse all fired up. But again, yes,
Speaker 1: my information was this was a two to three week deal.
Speaker 1: They're on four weeks almost four weeks now, I think
Speaker 1: are going on four weeks, and that it was a
Speaker 1: mild strain. If there's grades one, two, and three, with
Speaker 1: one the least and three of the most, his was
Speaker 1: a one. Okay, So have you said all you need
Speaker 1: to say that? Okay? What was the second biggest thing
Speaker 1: that happened on seventy two? Thousand people showed up. It
Speaker 1: was a big crowd. It was announced seventy two and
Speaker 1: you know what, and that there were people up in
Speaker 1: the four hundred sections. Yeah, that's when I saw that.
Speaker 1: I said, wow, this is a big crowd for a
Speaker 1: preseason game. And ever since, they passed out those cowboy
Speaker 1: towels and people were waiving them and cheering in a
Speaker 1: preseason game. And the other part of it is, ever, no,
Speaker 1: they wanted them to put them a around their heads.
Speaker 1: The other the other part of it is they stuck
Speaker 1: around two in the fourth quarter at the end, they were.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I checked the TV ratings too,
Speaker 1: and the TV raid they were. People were sticking around
Speaker 1: really through all three of the second half interceptions too.
Speaker 1: So the other oh yeah, where to go the news
Speaker 1: I didn't say. I didn't mention any by name. The
Speaker 1: other encouraging The other encouraging note was the play of
Speaker 1: the defense, or I should say, the continued play of
Speaker 1: the team's first team defense. I know they gave up
Speaker 1: that first touchdown, their Mojoe moment wasn't great. Right after
Speaker 1: the fumble, Houston got the ball to twenty three and
Speaker 1: ended up scoring. But in the first half, the Cowboy
Speaker 1: defense only gave up seventy seven yards, and after those
Speaker 1: twenty three, if you do the math, all the next
Speaker 1: possessions in that first half they gave up fifty four yards.
Speaker 1: Longest game in the first half off by the Texans
Speaker 1: offense eight yards eight yards right in the first half,
Speaker 1: I think, And so I just think they played awfully well.
Speaker 1: And again they were probably having to adjust that first
Speaker 1: series because Dan Quinn wasn't there calling the defense. We
Speaker 1: got a new coach, Joe Joe Wit, the secondary pass
Speaker 1: game coordinator, was calling the calling the plays and McCarthy
Speaker 1: said that there was a couple things that they needed
Speaker 1: to get settled at first series, but after that they
Speaker 1: shut and they should have shut down Houston. Right, they're
Speaker 1: playing a backup and they have a much out there
Speaker 1: and a good quarterback that right, that quarterback's gonna be
Speaker 1: starting for him. Well, you're right, and they did it
Speaker 1: other than other than that first series because eighteen of
Speaker 1: the twenty three yards they gained were rushing. They shut
Speaker 1: down the run and that was encouraging, especially since Neville
Speaker 1: Gallimore wasn't out there. And ohso DIGGI zoo, I thought
Speaker 1: he did a nice job in his place. Well, I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought the moment that they had for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: was just when Cooper Rush came in with that amazing drive.
Speaker 1: To me, that was a nice Mojoe moment. He laid
Speaker 1: him all the way down PenPoint passing of course, ended
Speaker 1: up with a touchdown to Cedric Wilson, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: here's a playmaker. Guys. I mean, we already knew this,
Speaker 1: but I think Cedric Wilson is just gonna be one
Speaker 1: of those players that we will always need in the
Speaker 1: clutch whenever our triplets are not doing well, I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be the guy that come through for us.
Speaker 1: And I must say also the other moment for Saturday
Speaker 1: night was Noah Brown getting off answering the bell. You know.
Speaker 1: I think he's feeling that pressure from seem did I
Speaker 1: say his name, Simmy. He's feeling the pressure from Simmy.
Speaker 1: And he came through with some great passes yesterday. And
Speaker 1: he's always physical on the blocking standpoint, but I just
Speaker 1: love the way he came through with a couple of
Speaker 1: really nice catches and a lot of extra effort after
Speaker 1: one of them, but the one on the sidelines, of course,
Speaker 1: justin it was really showed that there was going to
Speaker 1: be Brown's day as well as Cooper Russian's day, you know.
Speaker 1: And we talk about Noah Brown and his salary. We
Speaker 1: looked it up his one point two million this year.
Speaker 1: Look at Cedric Wilson because he had that restricted free
Speaker 1: agent tender of two point one million dollars, because he's
Speaker 1: in the fourth year, and so when he came into
Speaker 1: the off season and into training camp, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on Cedric Wilson. Teams in around this league
Speaker 1: love to find a young Brookie who can come in
Speaker 1: and take the place of a guy who just got
Speaker 1: restricted free agent money. But they love Cedric Wilson inside
Speaker 1: this building and so yep, and he has just confirmed
Speaker 1: this offseason and this training camp in preseason games that
Speaker 1: he deserves that spot. Oh he's a great insurance. Did
Speaker 1: you see how you see how excited that was for
Speaker 1: the sideline cast by Noah Brown. That lets you know
Speaker 1: how people are pulling for him as well, because that
Speaker 1: was really geeked when he came down and got the
Speaker 1: got his foot in and got the elbows. I don't
Speaker 1: think those two guys have done anything to suggest they
Speaker 1: shouldn't be the fourth and fifth wide receiver. And if
Speaker 1: Simmy makes it, they're going to have to keep six,
Speaker 1: I think well. And the other part of that is
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position is a position of strength, but
Speaker 1: you have to anticipate, okay, if you had an injury,
Speaker 1: even just for a couple of games, you have to
Speaker 1: make sure you have enough depth at that position where
Speaker 1: that position of strength drops off. And I think they
Speaker 1: feel good about their fourth and fifth guys. And you
Speaker 1: know what, this kind of reminded me of Walt Garrison
Speaker 1: with our gyles own Nick Ralston. If you need one yard, nickel,
Speaker 1: get your one yard. If you need five yards, nickel
Speaker 1: one yard, don't give don't look like he looked like
Speaker 1: he was pulling that mack truck. Got that one yard
Speaker 1: each time. Nice blocking. And again his deal will be
Speaker 1: special teams. Can he continue to make plays on specialty.
Speaker 1: Here's another thing to consider when you when you consider
Speaker 1: do you keep a fullback on the final roster or not.
Speaker 1: Look back at McCarthy's time in Green Bay, and he
Speaker 1: had a fullback, John coon right for years with the
Speaker 1: Packers during McCarthy's time calling plays up there, and so,
Speaker 1: and you know, he has an impact on our great
Speaker 1: influence on what they're doing offensively here, even with Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore calling the plays. And so it'll be very interesting
Speaker 1: at cut down time what the decision they make on
Speaker 1: whether they keep a fullback or try to get him
Speaker 1: through waivers, you know, and a lot of that might
Speaker 1: depend on what happens with McEwen as the third tight end.
Speaker 1: Uh he's got that high ankle sprain. Do they think
Speaker 1: he'll be back soon enough or do they need to
Speaker 1: keep him on the fifty three and then put them
Speaker 1: on returnable ir has to miss three games but you
Speaker 1: would want three tight ends for sure, and that might
Speaker 1: make room for Jeremy Sprinkle as the third for that
Speaker 1: time that particular time, or they can tell Sprinkle, hey,
Speaker 1: look we're gonna waive you. If you clear waivers, we're
Speaker 1: going to resign you, because McEwan's going on I R.
Speaker 1: And the other thing on keeping a fullback is that
Speaker 1: this is where your pro scouting department comes in and
Speaker 1: the guys that are they're scouting the other rosters around
Speaker 1: the league and knowing that there's only a handful, maybe
Speaker 1: ten teams in the league that even can play a fullback,
Speaker 1: and so are those teams looking to pick up one
Speaker 1: or not? And how important is it to those teams
Speaker 1: whether whether you're going to try to slide them through
Speaker 1: or not. Because Lona Lua was gonna make this team exactly, man.
Speaker 1: But he brings more, yeah, offensively because you could use
Speaker 1: them as a one back right, although Ralston probably brings
Speaker 1: more as far as a blocking back up right and
Speaker 1: specially team probably that's right, you know, And and it
Speaker 1: started reminded me of the kind of fullback dilemma the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were, I don't know, five years ago, maybe Keith
Speaker 1: Smith remember that he was a I think it was
Speaker 1: a linebacker and they turned him into a fullback. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then he was a special teams guy. The guy
Speaker 1: still playing. I just saw the story about his aunt
Speaker 1: uncle about in California. They've lost their their house in
Speaker 1: one of the wildfires. But he's he's with it, Linda.
Speaker 1: Now he's still playing. Yeah, and he's been with Atlanta
Speaker 1: a couple of years now. And uh. And that's the
Speaker 1: other thing with Ralston is he played some linebacker and
Speaker 1: that's why that's he is more effective on special teams
Speaker 1: than you might expect. He played some linebacker at Arizona
Speaker 1: State also, and so he understands what it takes. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks have a Pro Bowl fullback and Nick Bulore
Speaker 1: who's now playing linebacker for him during this training camp.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's something that any fullback needs to do.
Speaker 1: All right, we need to take a break and let's
Speaker 1: talk about that defense when we come back here on
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Speaker 1: last fan of the year. He was that close right there,
Speaker 1: and they and they tried, and they tried to make
Speaker 1: it easy for me because they put five six for
Speaker 1: fifty six. You got distract hell, it would have. He
Speaker 1: was anticipating, he knew he was gonna have to reach one,
Speaker 1: and he was in the Roman numerals, and then he saw, oh,
Speaker 1: they made it fifty six, and that tripped him up.
Speaker 1: I mean, the train, the train was on the track,
Speaker 1: it was rolling. It was Silver Street now, and then
Speaker 1: it just got off track. Here came here came wicked
Speaker 1: prior and all right, how about that Dallas defense on
Speaker 1: Saturday night. This was a continuation of the first two
Speaker 1: preseason games. I believe over the first two preseason games,
Speaker 1: if you just look at I think it was the
Speaker 1: either the first teamers or the first half, they had
Speaker 1: given up two field goals and now it's two field
Speaker 1: goals and the turnaround touchdown twenty three yards so they've
Speaker 1: been playing awfully well. And this has got to be
Speaker 1: one of the things that turns around this team is
Speaker 1: this defense has to play well well. I recall when
Speaker 1: I joined the Cowboys, one thing I knew I had
Speaker 1: a chance at being was being able to make the
Speaker 1: team simply because Cowboys dbs were just not good at
Speaker 1: all back in the nineteen Back in nineteen eighty itself.
Speaker 1: I won't call out any names, but you know, you
Speaker 1: have some guys back there, really big foot in that
Speaker 1: behind scene, these fast wide receivers and getting beat for
Speaker 1: a lot of yards. And when we the reason for
Speaker 1: them signing twenty five defensive backs his rookies was because
Speaker 1: we needed to show up the secondary. And hallelujah, here
Speaker 1: comes Michael down first. They finally gave me a shot.
Speaker 1: You know, we had Dennis Firma. We start moving some
Speaker 1: things around to make it happen. We tried to remedy
Speaker 1: the situation of giving up touchdowns without making plays. Now
Speaker 1: here we come. Now, we were giving up so many
Speaker 1: yards history yards as far as the Russian game is concerned.
Speaker 1: And here here they come with this rookie named osa Osa.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait wait, I'm not gonna try to come
Speaker 1: on now, come on a digit zo digit zogh digga zoo. Diggie.
Speaker 1: Diggie is bawling, Guys, Diggie is really bawling, and it's
Speaker 1: really important for him to make this moves, not just
Speaker 1: for the team before himself, because when when Gallimore goes down,
Speaker 1: you know somebody's got to slide in somewhere within that unit.
Speaker 1: It could be the same position, or you can just
Speaker 1: show up a particular position and be able to be
Speaker 1: more diverse with the players that are remaining. So him
Speaker 1: being there playing so well OHSA is giving dan Quinn
Speaker 1: a lot of options for the season when it starts
Speaker 1: because he is in there making plays. And I don't
Speaker 1: just mean stumbling into plays. He's making timely plays and
Speaker 1: understanding the moment itself in the ball game. And yes
Speaker 1: it's a preseason game, but there are still moments in
Speaker 1: the preseason game where coaches want to see you have
Speaker 1: that mojo time, that mojo moment. He's been that guy
Speaker 1: pretty much is entire preseason that has been making plays consistently,
Speaker 1: not for the team, but especially for himself to make
Speaker 1: that team. I would like to point out Mickey that
Speaker 1: Aaron Mitchell did have three interceptions in nineteen eighty. I
Speaker 1: ain't called no names. I called zo names. No, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just pointing out interception leader Steve Wilson had
Speaker 1: four picks, and how many did Benny Barne. Benny Barnes
Speaker 1: had one in nineteen eighty, So there you go. Just
Speaker 1: bringing Benny is my exception. Yeah, Benny had a great
Speaker 1: career with the Cowboys. And here's here's another. Another good
Speaker 1: sign is the linebackers are playing I think really well.
Speaker 1: Now when they finished the game and the tackle chart,
Speaker 1: the leading tacklers had four. Three of them were linebackers
Speaker 1: vander Esh, Jabril Cox, and Luke Gifford. Now some of
Speaker 1: those guys the other they were playing the second half,
Speaker 1: but Vanderash had four plays and he looked really good
Speaker 1: out there. And then that combination of Parsons and Kean
Speaker 1: O'Neil on the nickel, and there was one set up
Speaker 1: they had vander Esh and Parsons out there at the
Speaker 1: same time. So I like the way they're functioning from
Speaker 1: a linebacker corps. They seemed to know what they're doing
Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be going. There's no you know,
Speaker 1: seemingly disorganization the way it was the year before, especially
Speaker 1: with the linebackers. And think about this, they I didn't
Speaker 1: have Carlos Watkins out there either, who was considered the
Speaker 1: one technique starter. When the COVID protocols came up. With
Speaker 1: dan Quinn and Watkins, those two had to head home.
Speaker 1: So they ended up with Brent Urban out there at
Speaker 1: the one technique and then rotated Bohannah in and he
Speaker 1: actually starting to show up a little bit too. So
Speaker 1: sixty four three thirty I gotta find some space for
Speaker 1: him on the field. Well. I like the fact that
Speaker 1: the defensive backs were trying to get that timing down.
Speaker 1: You didn't see him really giving up many plays, and
Speaker 1: they made a few. They had some knockdowns. Brown had
Speaker 1: a good game at cornerback. Once again, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be that guy who's gonna make interceptions for you, but
Speaker 1: the fact that he was glued to his wide receiver
Speaker 1: in that game was something. I saw na Sean Wright
Speaker 1: trying to set the quarterback up for a pick six,
Speaker 1: and he almost did it. The quarterback just happened to
Speaker 1: throw a horrible pass, but he timed that just right
Speaker 1: on that out rout. The quick out route, and he
Speaker 1: would have thrown that anywhere close to the wide receiver
Speaker 1: that was gonna be a pick six. These are the
Speaker 1: kind of things I like to look at from defensive
Speaker 1: backs to where they're being very strategic on how aggressive
Speaker 1: they can beat. I saw good stuff. Okay, then Everson.
Speaker 1: Number twenty four is when they seventeen days from now,
Speaker 1: when they opened the season at Tampa Bay, who is
Speaker 1: your starting cornerback opposite Trayvon Diggs. It will unfortunately it
Speaker 1: will not be national right as much as he's making plays,
Speaker 1: I don't find I mentioned you by number twenty four
Speaker 1: because I was getting at number twenty four Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: the second round, of course. And then of course you
Speaker 1: and you just said that you were impressed with Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown the other day. So Brown's a starter right now?
Speaker 1: Do you think he's gonna be starting at Tampa Bay?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm hoping Brown at some point can realize
Speaker 1: how good he is, because when you've got that kind
Speaker 1: of talented that quick, you know, forget size. He has
Speaker 1: the physical ability to make plays, but mentally he just
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to advance. And now you got these young
Speaker 1: guys coming in and they are thinking aggressively, more aggressively
Speaker 1: than the guy like Brown is. So I won't Brown
Speaker 1: to step up and be the veteran he's supposed to be,
Speaker 1: because otherwise you've got Joseph and you've got right. These
Speaker 1: guys are thinking like veterans, and they're carrying themselves like veterans.
Speaker 1: All they do need to do is put that together
Speaker 1: with time on the field and making plays. Let me
Speaker 1: answer that question, they'll probably go step They'll probably be safe.
Speaker 1: They'll probably be safe and go with Brown absolutely because
Speaker 1: Tom Brady would eat Kelvin and Joseph. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: forgot here. The opponent wash, I don't want to He's
Speaker 1: gonna eat a lot of people out. Yeah, but especially
Speaker 1: a guy it's only played eleven games or started eleven
Speaker 1: games in college. And the other side is a second
Speaker 1: year corner and then okay, so then the following week
Speaker 1: he got a second year quarterback in Justin Herbert at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys face. And then the third week it's the
Speaker 1: second year quarterback in Jalen Hurts. It doesn't matter, Kelvin,
Speaker 1: Joseph's got it, really does. He's got to make up
Speaker 1: some ground because he keeps getting beat now he can
Speaker 1: catch up sometimes when he gets beat because he's got
Speaker 1: that kind of speed. But there's too many times down
Speaker 1: the field he gets beat and he's guessing a little too.
Speaker 1: I would have to say Brown needs to step When
Speaker 1: you see these young guys coming in, with their particular
Speaker 1: attitude and with this reputation that they have, this is
Speaker 1: his year to step out. He has not done that.
Speaker 1: He has not separated himself in any way from the
Speaker 1: other cornerbacks, and with him being the veteran, even though
Speaker 1: he's a young man, with him being the veteran, I
Speaker 1: have been disappointed at this point. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: him making me eat quo because I love to eat it.
Speaker 1: That means the Cowboys are going to be making some plays.
Speaker 1: So this is his you, s Bags, and I know
Speaker 1: you've always liked him, but this is his you to
Speaker 1: do something and step out and start making plays. This
Speaker 1: could be a replay of ninety two when Cowboys drafted
Speaker 1: Kevin Smith in the first round. He was a I
Speaker 1: think the seventeenth pick that year, and he didn't start
Speaker 1: until game eleven. Couldn't get I Colt out of those things.
Speaker 1: It was over after that, and then it was over
Speaker 1: and then all it was. But just because you're a
Speaker 1: high draft pick doesn't mean you have to be an
Speaker 1: immediate starter. You got to kind of earn that and
Speaker 1: make sure you get earned the confidence of the coaching star.
Speaker 1: Repeat of ninety two, A repeat of ninety two. Let's
Speaker 1: see what happen Bills into the count. Okay, Kevin Smith
Speaker 1: was the eleventh game of the season before he starts,
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys go on a roll and they
Speaker 1: wound up winning the super Bowl. And where was the
Speaker 1: super Bowl played that year in nineteen ninety two? January nine? California?
Speaker 1: Where's the super Bowl gonna be played this year? Mickey Spagnola?
Speaker 1: Not in Pasda White, It's La. We'll be fascinator close,
Speaker 1: although I wouldn't be opposed to Pasadena. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: that was That was the best setting for a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl I thought of all time. Wow, that was amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I think we're out of time. We've got
Speaker 1: a Mike McCarthy press conference coming your way at two
Speaker 1: o'clock a Central time. We'll get an update on what's
Speaker 1: going on with the COVID protocols and much more. One
Speaker 1: of the great things that came out of the Saturday
Speaker 1: Nights game. There weren't any injuries real. Yes, absolutely, And
Speaker 1: we'll be back with Mick Shots at two o'clock on Wednesday.
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