1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stradio Lab, an intellectual podcast about straight culture 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: and also a stupid podcast about nothing. Don't say that, 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: it's just true. I don't want to lie to our listeners. 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: I'm George Severe and I'm Sam Taggart and this is 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Lab podcast starts now. Hello listeners, Sorry to interrupt, but hello, Hi. 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: UM just f y I UM. Seconds ago George said 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: I need an espresso. Well here, I'll say this. Okay. 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: You know there has been a change this season, and 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: I think it is just in terms of how scheduling 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: has worked out, where we used to record a lot 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: on the weekends and now we are recording a lot 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: in the evenings after work. And you know, you want 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: to be you want to be the consummate professional. You 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: want to be able to turn it on out of 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: nowhere at any given time. You want to be able 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: to get up at three am and host the Oscars 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: if you know NBC calls right. And it is difficult 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: for me to accept that I am not at that 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: level of professionalism yet mm hmm. It's honestly difficult for 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: everyone involved to accept that. Have you have you struggled 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: with my my, my lack of I feel like I'm 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: I really pushed myself and I'm able to really get there, 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: But you think that I have failed, actually repeatedly over 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: the last five episodes that we have recorded this season. 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Is that what I know? I think you're in it. 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: I think you're doing a great job. I think maybe 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: you think I shouldn't address it. I think you shouldn't 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: give it power. I think because you always do a 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: great job, I think you should be like, yeah, I 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: am tired, but it doesn't really come through. And I 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: actually am the constant professional that I think I'm not. Well, 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: I guess you're you're saying I should fake it till 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: I make it. Kind of well, I'm saying, it's all 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: a facade. I'm saying, like, you know this, this is 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: a scheduled conversation, like it's not we are having a coffee, 36 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, in downtown Manhattan, like sort of discussing our 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: intellectual pursuits. Like this is all it's all a facade, 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: And so I guess it's more than that. To me. 39 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: I just think you should lean into um, the art 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: of performance, okay, and and sort of understand like when 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: I sign it on, I'm tired, but but it does 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: away it doesn't matter, and and the Katy Perry video 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: of her crime being left it up you know, okay, 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: all right, well you know, I'm sorry I couldn't step 45 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: up to the plate. It's okay. I still think that 46 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: you are a beautiful podcast host. I think you have 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: so many years of hosting podcasts ahead of you. It 48 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: will say that listen. I I of course understand. I 49 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: of course understand how it must be frustrating for me 50 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: to even utter the words I am tired or I 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: needed an espresso or something, but then for you to 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: respond essentially with a full body I roll really does 53 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: not help my case. No, I it's okay. What makes 54 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: me laugh about it is the I need an espresso, 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: like specifically, um, and I know it's your European roots, um, 56 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: But coming out for me, it's always more of the 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: it's it reads sometimes like as like um uh like 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: New Yorker cartoon person, you know what I mean? I see, 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Like that's what's funny to me? Yeah, okay, like like, 60 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: of course I would say that signing on to a 61 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: to a zoom at at six thirty seven o'clock PM, 62 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: like of course, that's the first thing I would say. 63 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: It really is. I mean, I really am saying, but 64 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: first coffee at the end of the day, Like after 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: all of the work we have done internally and externally 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: over the last three years, I am at this stage 67 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: in my life and career logging onto a zoom and saying, 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: only I had a cup of coffee. You are but 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: even the I mean, it's funny, it is you like 70 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: to be like I wish I had a shot of espresso. 71 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: It's very it's very New York City, it's very um 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: Sex and the city. It's just it's fun. We don't 73 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: sometimes we don't know when just normal things we say 74 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: are funny and I think, um, that's one of your things. 75 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. But once again, you know, I feel like 76 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: your reaction wasn't so much laughing as it was kind 77 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: of exasperated. No, no, no, let me think I have 78 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: a lot to say about this. Am I allowed to 79 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: talk at this point or not? You actually supposed to 80 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: introduce lent, But I mean, I guess, I mean, it's like, no, 81 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: we should you know what I actually I changed my 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: mind and I think that you know what would be 83 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: even better than a shot of espresso A shot of 84 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 1: my friend Julio Hi, So, without further ado, please welcome 85 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: to podcast. Julio Torres. Hi, Julio, So what were you 86 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: gonna say? So? Okay, I just really witnessing you to 87 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: like not seeing each other in that moment. Was was 88 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: fascinating to me because yes, I clocked that Sam brought 89 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: up the espresso because Sam was like, hah, my friend 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: is so fancy. Isn't that funny? Ha ha? And then 91 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: and then of course judicial securities came up and was 92 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: just inflamed by that and didn't realize that Sam was 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: like delighted by a funny line, but was because I 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: guess maybe you're insecure about being tired or not being 95 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: a professional right then you thought you thought it was 96 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: a critique about that. It's sort of like, you know, 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: like if if Sam had said like, oh my god, sir, 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: because Sam loves red, and you're like, oh no, x 99 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: y C about my my skin or whatever. Okay, I'm 100 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: starting to catch on. You two need to put yourself 101 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: into and the and your hosts shoes a little more. 102 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: We are trying every day. Yeah, okay, Well, um, so George, um, 103 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: how do you think I feel? And then I'll say 104 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: how I think you feel? I think you feel well, 105 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: I think you feel I think it's complicated. I think 106 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: you feel a little bit like I can feel some 107 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: concern even now of how will we get out of this? 108 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: Interesting because I think it's sort of like, first you 109 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: were genuinely feeling tired, so let's that's like the base 110 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: level we're working with, and then there's even the self 111 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: consciousness about feeling tired, and and so now I'm sort 112 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: of feeling like there's a third level of like and 113 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: now you're self conscious that we that you let the 114 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: self consciousness get in the way of understanding something, and 115 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: so I can feel like a light a casual concerns interesting, 116 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: how are you? How do you think I'm feeling here? 117 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: Here's here's my I feel like it's interesting that you 118 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: latched onto the espressive thing because what I my insecurity 119 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: with this is like the past couple of times we 120 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: I think we get into these patterns where you ask 121 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: me how I am and then I respond with kind 122 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: of like the same thing every time. And I there 123 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: was one period where I would always talk about how 124 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: stressed I was because of work, and then I realized, 125 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: like this isn't I can't just keep saying that Sam 126 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: has nothing. Sam just by definition, will not be able 127 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: to say something that will make me feel better about 128 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: being stressed about work. He doesn't know the ins and 129 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: outs of my job, Like that's not going to help whatever. 130 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: And then I feel like recently my instinct or my 131 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: kind of like automatic response is just complaining about how 132 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: tired I am. And I kind of feel like I'm 133 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: hitting a wall with that where I realized even saying 134 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: it tonight, like literally, what are you going to do 135 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: about that? What are you going to do about the 136 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: fact that I'm tired? There's nothing you can do about it. 137 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: And I'm suddenly putting that on you. It is not 138 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: a conversation starter. It is not something that is like productive. 139 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: And so my fear, in fact, is not like about 140 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: us doing a bit or about us being able to 141 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: get out of it. It's that you. Is that I'm like, he, 142 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: you are so like bored of me talking about getting tired. No, 143 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: that's not it at all. I think it's normal to 144 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: be tired, you know, whatever time this is, that's beautiful. Yeah, 145 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: it is normal to be tired, thank you. Yeah, And 146 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: I think it would be I think it would you know, 147 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: It's even weirder sometimes when people don't admit that they're tired, right, yeah, 148 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, well that's kind of what where I 149 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: was coming from the beginning when I was not doing 150 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Katy Perry popping out of the stage, and I was like, 151 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: you know what, just today, I'm gonna be tired? Is 152 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: Katie Perry off tired? She in this very famous scene 153 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: that Sam is referencing, Russell Brand had just texted her 154 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: that he wants to get a divorce, right Sam, wait 155 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: a scene in what her documentary and the documentary okay 156 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: and back saying no, no, no, no. So there's actually 157 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: one key difference, which is, rather than being tired, she 158 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: was sad. Yeah, she was really sad. So you mean 159 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: to tell me that the documentary cameras received the incoming 160 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: text of I Want to divorce Julio. This is one 161 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: of the best documentaries the world has ever said. Okay, 162 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: this is like and you ask the audience do you 163 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: believe that or is it sort of like a Real 164 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: Housewives staying I'm like, yeah, it's like outlined, but I 165 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: enjoy it. As the audience. I believe it. You believe it. 166 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: Believe it, you believe that that the cameras just happened 167 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: to capture someone receiving and I want to get a 168 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: divorce text, Julio. They were with her on all of tour, 169 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't think you under stand up, so like 170 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: they were with her on all of the tour. Of 171 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: course they're going to see when like she gets a 172 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: text that breaks her heart. Like these documentaries are like 173 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 1: produced by they're like Katie Perry, so they're commercials for that. 174 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: It was produced by actually Katherine Hudson Katie Perry. So 175 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: what's honestly what's weird about this one is it it 176 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: does feel like, wait, who's in charge of this one? 177 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Because it is really good. It does capture because it 178 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: captures the whole downfall of their relationship, and like it's like, 179 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: how did you this was really lucky? I mean it's 180 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: still an advert. You still fall in love with Katy 181 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: Perry through the documentary, so it is successful of being 182 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: an ad for her, but it is like the most 183 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: real you can get from a documentary like that. And 184 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: I just want to say, as if you were And 185 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: I have actually never seen this documentary, but I have 186 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: heard Sam describe this scene at this point upwards of 187 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: a dozen times, and each time I do believe it 188 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: more because I see it even more and more through 189 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: Sam's eyes, to the point where I would like you 190 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: by the time we hit thirty thirty five accountings of 191 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: this scene, I would like to get to the point 192 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: where I literally have a photographic memory of exactly Sam's 193 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: experience of the scene. It's it was very powerful. Julio. 194 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: We didn't ask how are you doing? I'm fine. Are 195 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: you tired? No, No, I'm not. You're sure you're not pretending. 196 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm not pretending. I'm not tired. M just seem kind 197 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: of tired. You know what I will say. I am 198 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: on the upswing. I think this this the energy is 199 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: contagious in this room, and I am ready to rumble, 200 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: I have to say, just to be clear. Also, yeah, 201 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: I like to keep my guests honest. Um, Julio is 202 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: in a dark room. Lights are getting dimmer. Yeah, his 203 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: head is leaning on um a couch cushion, but very 204 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: very casually, as if about to take a napp. No, 205 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: I'm very await, it's very you know, a couple of 206 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: face timing before bed. This is what you if it 207 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: was making another kind of in bed with the headphones, 208 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: being like, tell me one more thing. I just I mean, 209 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: you know what I look like, I and and yeah, 210 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: why pretend that I don't want to leave? Sure, yeah 211 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: I have. I I take whole school meetings like horizontal, 212 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: sometimes like utterly horizontal, like like completely like professional like production. 213 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's interesting how the fine line between 214 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: that being unprofessional and that being actually the opposite of 215 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: that being like it's such a power move that by 216 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: doing that, you actually are exerting your power over everyone 217 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: else in the zoom. I have to to you know, 218 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: Julio says. You know, I know this because when we 219 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: were on Fire Island, Julio would literally be in the 220 00:12:54,800 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: living room on the floor like well like uh, what 221 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: I assumed to be an important call for like two 222 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: hours at a time, with like you know, the gay 223 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: masses just sort of like trouncing behind him, making sandwiches 224 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: like they're various toasts and coffees. And it was like, 225 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: I was like, do they not mind? Like this feels 226 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: in my mind this is illegal. Why would they mind? 227 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, they're getting all the answers they need. 228 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: Why would they mind? Do they hear us in the background. See, 229 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: this is the thing with like this is people that 230 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: really have taken advantage of um COVID working environments that 231 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm very jealous of the fact that you're like, Okay, 232 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: this is the world we live in now. Everything is remote, 233 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: everything is on zoom. So I'm gonna, you know, take 234 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: the call in the living room while a threesome is 235 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: happening next to me. I'm going to travel while you know, 236 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: editing my my show, whereas I Whereas when you don't 237 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: have the kind of confidence to do things like that, 238 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,239 Speaker 1: the actual work from home paradigm becomes even more oppressive 239 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: because rather than at least leaving the house, I just 240 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: want to note, you are currently eating a snack of something. 241 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: This is the way this is elevating. We're like saying, 242 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: like he's always doing these calls. As George was talking, 243 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: you would have gotten up and and gotten a snack 244 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: still food. Of course. I am now remembering, and it's 245 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: actually it's it's what the kids call core memory on loss. 246 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: I am remembering the first time you did this podcast 247 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: where you announced in the beginning quite simple your computer 248 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: was not plugged in and was not with the intention 249 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: of you know, hold on let me get a charger, 250 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: just kind of like letting you guys know, this is 251 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: the current situation. It will run out. I feel like 252 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: that was very professional in my part, letting you know 253 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: my limitations. So it was certainly transparent and open. Yeah honest. 254 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if that translates to professional. I think 255 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm a very honest person. Yeah I agree with that. Yeah. No, 256 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: no one's saying you're not honest, except I did call 257 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: you dishonest when you said you weren't tired. I just 258 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: wasn't quite buying it. I am, I am really not tired. 259 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: I actually am not buying it. I really I think 260 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: it was not tired. I am, I am not tired. 261 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: I had my required eight hours of sleep. I had 262 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: to wake up earlier than I hoped I would because 263 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm working remotely with someone who's in Denmark, so I 264 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: have to wake up the crack of dawn and like 265 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, be like awake at like eight thirty um, 266 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: which is unfathomable to me. Then I worked and then 267 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: I took a nap. Oh my, I'm very I'm actually 268 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: very represhed. I had a green team. But see it's Sam. 269 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: You were reading the knap position as like, oh my god, 270 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: he is literally, but in fact it was just like 271 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: you're so comfortable that, like, why not be in that position? 272 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: You're right, I was putting too much stock in the 273 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: physicality and I shouldn't have never judged you by the 274 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: way you're laying your head on a couch. Yeah, so 275 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: let that be a lesson. Should we do our first segment? 276 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, we absolutely should. Okay. Would you 277 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: like to explain it, Julio. Our first segment is called 278 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: straight Shooters, and in it, um, we like to gauge 279 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: your familiarity and complicity in straight culture by asking you 280 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: a serious, rapid fire questions. Basically, this thing or this 281 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: other thing, got it? And the and the one rule, 282 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: of course is you can't ask any follow up questions 283 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: about how the game works. Understood? Okay, George, Will you 284 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: kick us off? Absolutely, Julio. Being an international jet setter 285 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: or being a domestic terrorist National dut Center, okay, Julio. 286 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: Salt in the wound or Pepper in the stew salt okay. 287 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: Julio pointing out continuity errors in a movie, or pointing 288 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: to a presenter at the VMA's and saying is that 289 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: Alley X the Ladder Okay, Julio hearing a cautionary tale 290 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: or watching a YouTube compilation of fails hearing a cautionary tale, Okay, 291 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: Julio reclaiming the narrative or exclaiming help, I'm stuck under 292 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: this bus, exclaiming how I'm stuck under this bus? Okay? 293 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: Being a doorman or being a window washer? Being a 294 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: window washer absolutely, House of the Dragon or House Labs 295 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: by Lady Gaga, a vegan and cruelty free cosmetics brand 296 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: with emission of spreading kindness, bravery and creativity. How's Lady Gaga? Okay, Julio. 297 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: All Hallow's Eve. We're all about Eve? All hallows Eve? Wow. Wow. 298 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'll say is trying to rank your 299 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: performance on a scale of zero to one thousand doves. 300 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: It almost felt like you were so confident and and 301 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: and so you so clearly had played the game before 302 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: you knew what to expect that I almost felt like 303 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: it was almost the thing of like you're doing. It 304 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: was too rehearsed. It was Lady Gaga doing Stars Born. 305 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: What do you think Lady Gaga doing the Stars Breast 306 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: Store the Stars film specifically, like acting or promoting it 307 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: performance at the hospital of Shallow, So a little bit 308 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: of both the intersection of both of those. We have 309 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: protection of both of those things. Yeah, okay, And for 310 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: that reason, I would say it was a nine hundred 311 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: dubs a thousand okay. Yeah. See, how do you feel 312 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: about that um read of you? I would agree, Yeah, 313 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: I I don't like over rehearsed. I like um, I 314 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: like seeing the scots take a little bit, if you 315 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm exactly and I do. But I I 316 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: think that like the the options that you gave me 317 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: were so distinct that it was very each see for 318 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: me to pick which ones because there were a lot 319 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: of them were mystical and spooky versus mundane and I 320 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: always went for the mystical and the spooky. And you're 321 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: also pointing to something that I will cop to, which 322 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: is that we also maybe the two of us also 323 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: felt too rehearsed and didn't we didn't really laugh at 324 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: our own jokes. We weren't being uh Sam, No, you're 325 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: just a right. I hadn't even thought about my own 326 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: reaction and that, No, we there's almost something where I 327 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: was like, as I was doing it, I was At 328 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: some point at the end, I even like cut Julio 329 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: off as he was still talking. We were kind of 330 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: like trying to get through it or something. It was 331 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: like an eye exam. Yeah, oh my god, what's what's 332 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: happened to us? Yeah? Like what there's something where I 333 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: wonder what it is. We have become too professional? I 334 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: think so, I really do think. I'm like, I'm like, 335 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: where is what do I do? What? What do I 336 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: do to get back that kind of youthful energy I 337 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: had um in my early teens when we started this podcast. 338 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Do you think it's Do you think it's the it's 339 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: the more professional setup that you have now that you 340 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: you're like part of a podcast something. What's the what's 341 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: the thing that Bill Farrell isn't? I don't think so. 342 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: I think better believe it's both. Okay, yeah, yeah, are 343 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: you getting comfortable with well? You know, I mean I 344 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: do think the fact that Will calls us personally after 345 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: every episode and blows smoke up her ass is not helping, 346 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 1: not at all. Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean the daily flowers, 347 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: the daily flowers from Will, the calls. You know, it's 348 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: gotten to a point where I'm like, I can't talk 349 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, Like I actually have other jobs, I 350 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: have other things. I have a family I can't sort 351 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: of unpack. And yeah, we're we're grateful for everything, But um, 352 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: this can't be your whole life is straight a lab. 353 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: You know, it seems like he is organized his entire 354 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: life around the recordings of this podcast. Was the great question, 355 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: Um we get him on, get him on to answer that. 356 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't think there was no there never was. That's surprising. 357 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Do you know maybe if he wasn't spending all his 358 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: time producing this podcast, he would have time to make 359 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,239 Speaker 1: a sequel to ELP. Yeah, but no, I do think 360 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: we're pointing to something. What do you think, Sam? Like, 361 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, there needs to be some kind of unexpected 362 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: you know, someone needs to walk into one of our 363 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: rooms a room, oh you know, we yummy and like 364 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: a roommate walking in or like yes, oh yeah, because 365 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: then then I know, I'm like talking through friends if 366 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: like suddenly like Sam has to send up and like 367 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: whisper like I can't. I just can't right now, I 368 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: just can't wait. I can't wait and then come out. Sorry, guys, 369 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: we really need to I mean it's maybe other people, 370 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: other professionals out there struggle with this. How do you 371 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: channel your twenty two year old self while working at 372 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the bank, while working as a middle school teacher. Yeah, 373 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: you show up my answers with glee. You show up 374 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: late or announced that you have to be early. Okay, yeah, 375 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: you know. Also okay, and this is like actually reality, 376 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: I'd say, because we used to record these on Saturdays 377 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: around noon. We were chance, we were hungover, which which 378 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: you famously loved. Which Yeah, it was both the kind 379 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: of anything goes looseness of being hungover combined with the 380 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: old of caffeine from you know, the coffee you have 381 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: on a Sunday night, And so the energy was really 382 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: like we're at brunch. You know what it is. It's 383 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: the difference between brunch and after work drinks. After work 384 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: drinks are obviously fun, like you're excited to be after 385 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: you know, you're excited that work is over. You're excited 386 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: you're having a little drink, but you're still wearing your blazer. 387 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: Can you guide me through this? Afterwork drinks a concept 388 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: you speak of like are you are you? Are you 389 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: getting drinks with your coworkers, are you getting drinks with 390 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: other friends? Drinks a your coworkers, right. Oh see, I 391 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: was thinking, like you are you are a lawyer. Your 392 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: friend is also you know, a business person, and the 393 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: two of you leave the offices and then get drinks, 394 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: but you're both still wearing the skirt suits and you're 395 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: like at the house sport closely your office or whatever exactly. Yeah, 396 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: or you're like at some random bar and like a 397 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: like a bad part of you know, like a lame 398 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: part of Chelsea. There's this bar called good Night's Sunny 399 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: and I once went there many years ago at a 400 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: day job. Went went there and it was all people, 401 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: all like guys wearing khakis and blazers and women wearing 402 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: a skirt suit. And it's like it's kind of a 403 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: midway point between a work event and a playtime event. 404 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: There's this place that I have been to in that 405 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: context called Bill Frescos mm hmm, sull crushing. I can 406 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: picture it. Yeah, absolutely, sul crushing. I know at that 407 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: point you're like, well I might as well, just you know, 408 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 1: I'm craving at least the certainty of a conference room 409 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: where I know what the expectations are. Yeah, it's it's 410 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: just sort of it's like a little Stockholm syndrome. Right, 411 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, like, let's keep this going. No, 412 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: I afterward drinks is like the entire fantasy for me. 413 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: That's like such like I can see it all the time. 414 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: Have you ever had have you ever? I don't think 415 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: that in the time that I've known you, you've had 416 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: like a job that was so structure that it warned 417 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: afterword drinks. No, I've never had like a full like 418 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: office job. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that the afterword 419 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: drinks is a it's it's PTSD from the tyranny of 420 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: a hyper structured life. Yeah. Well, it can be one 421 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: of two things. It can either be if it's the 422 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: right kind of afterwork drinks, it can be a really 423 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: nice reentry into the non work world. You're like excited 424 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: to see a college friend, You're excited to finally let 425 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: loose after day of work, and so you're like, oh great, 426 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm jump starting the non work part of my day. 427 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: Or if it's with a colleague or with someone else 428 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: in a professional context, it can be actually an extension 429 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: of the work day, and then that is bad. How 430 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: long have you had a structured you seem like you 431 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: have you see it seems like your job is actual 432 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: pretty structured, right, Well, I'm currently I mean my current 433 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: job is pretty structured because I work as an editor. 434 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: So it's like very like and like same with any 435 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: writer rooms I've been in, and same with any day 436 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: jobs I've had. Really like a writer's rooms are crossing 437 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: the snacks absolutely absolutely brutal. When you walk into like 438 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: a poorly lit conference room and they have like sat 439 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: little snacks. It's like, this is not how you make art, 440 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like this is, yeah, I 441 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: need to starve your pointing to something, this party point 442 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: something kind of bleak, which is like I feel like 443 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: when you're on the outside of that, you think that's 444 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: the goal and you really think like that's what happiness 445 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: will be. And then to get to a writer's room 446 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: and realize it's an office job in like a little 447 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: most classic sense, a little inanyard. I think that I 448 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: subconsciously did to just sort of preserve my spirit when 449 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: I when I like worked at a writer's room, was 450 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: always losing my id and just like and in having 451 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: me and too a thirty rock be a whole to 452 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: do every time, and you were looking for a exitement 453 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I locked it again. Sorry, 454 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: Like you know who I am? Though, Can I just 455 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: go in? No text, I'm going to be late. Text. 456 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't come to the meeting. Text they won't 457 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: let me in because it's like yeah, oh my god, 458 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to clip it on my belt. 459 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't have a belt. No, well you have some belts. 460 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: I've seen you wear belts. Yeah, you certainly own belts. Yeah, 461 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: but they're like fun belts. I mean, don't you think 462 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: that's not I mean, that's not just writer's room. It's 463 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: like any any job as a kid, any job that 464 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: you as a kid dream of having, is immediately less 465 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: glamorous once you get it. And so then this is 466 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: like the missing link and all the like debate about 467 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: whether we should return to the office or whatever. It's like, 468 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: the issue is not the location. The issue is just 469 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: like the fact of having a job. Yeah, this is um, 470 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: what's the hold you about this? The like concept of evolution? 471 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: Uh where like where the one where like so many 472 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: species when they complete, like they evolve into crab, it's 473 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: called like parallel evolution or something where like like a 474 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: lot like a certain percentage of species will always evolve 475 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: into crab and that's it's like a huge number and 476 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of surprising, and it's sort of like every 477 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: job evolves into advertising, like that is a pinnacle. Yeah, 478 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: like you think you're going a different direction and the 479 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: endpoint is always still just walking advertising. Yeah, you're just 480 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: like taking a really long route. I remember. I do 481 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: think one of the main reasons to literally be a 482 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: doctor is that you don't accidentally end up in advertising. 483 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: And it's like it's one of the only things you 484 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: can do that you can at least confirm that you 485 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: will not end up working in advertising. No, no one 486 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: else to say even that. I'm like, you have to 487 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: be a specific kind of doctor, like you have to 488 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: be like because then because then you might you might 489 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: start courting, like courting pharmaceutical companies or going to like conferences. Yeah, 490 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: well that's scary. Yeah. I do want to address Hulio 491 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: that at this point the sun has gone down and 492 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: you truly look like you're in the Blair Witch project. Well, 493 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: it's and I'm not saying that with any judgment i 494 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: I but I am just saying it is it looks 495 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 1: like a horror movie a bit. And it also it's 496 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: difficult to see your facial expressions, which then makes it 497 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: difficult to react. Well, yeah, this is an audio medium, 498 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: that's right, and and and maybe by putting ourselves in 499 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: the shoes of our listeners not being able to see 500 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: your face, we will reach new heights of of the 501 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: podcasting arts. Confirmed. Um, Julio, would you like to tell 502 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: us what your topic is actually? Yes, reservations and sort 503 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: of what led you to reservations today? Well, I don't 504 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: know how I fel like I I hate reservations. I 505 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: hate having to make reservations. I immediately resent hearing there's 506 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: a reservation. I hate being asked, do you have a reservation? 507 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: And I it's it's so, it's just so um. It 508 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: just comes from a point of like craving structure, and 509 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: I feel listening about r s V ping, like hey 510 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: you having our SUP It's like, okay, well I may come, 511 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: it may not come. I don't know, like I'm gonna 512 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 1: like you need to stop breathing down my neck. And 513 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: it's like if if you if you really need an answer, 514 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: because there's like preparation that will go into me showing up. 515 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: We're not showing up. It best sort of makes the 516 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: question like, why are you doing that? Why are you 517 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: doing that? No one asked you to do this. I 518 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: I didn't say, hey, they're better be food when I 519 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: show up, you know what I mean? I didn't. I 520 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: wasn't like, so, what are you going to do? Prepare 521 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: for me? Like, don't prepare for me, and I may 522 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: show up and it may not show up. I would 523 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: like to walk us through the alternative how you would 524 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: like what your ideal planning for an event would look like, Hey, 525 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here at this place, Come if you want, right, 526 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: end of story, and you figure it out. You you 527 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: figure out your life. I really like I I couldn't 528 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: care less, right, Um, this is reminding me of actually, 529 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: like your free love approach to even a meal is 530 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: shocking to me. How so we actually planned a dinner 531 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: one night on fire and so I actually got to 532 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: sort of get a peek behind the curtains sort of 533 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: a Katy Perry documentary of Julio at a grocery store. 534 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: And you know, I was paralyzed in the store saying, 535 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, well, how many people sort of what are 536 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: we going to try to make? Julia said, oh, grab 537 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: some cheese. Oh, I don't know, grab a piece of 538 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: bread like Julio was like going through the store just 539 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: sort of grabbing whatever and then sort of writing a 540 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: narrative around the pieces that were grabbed after they were Well, 541 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, don't you think that's healthier to 542 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: like not walk into a situation with expectations and a 543 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: list of things you need, but rather see, rather allowing 544 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: yourself to be surprised by the experience. Hold on, I 545 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: just want to ask one follow up question, which is, 546 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: what how did the meal turn out? Oh? My god, 547 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: the meal. We invented a new food. Okay, So let's backtrack. 548 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: And the reason why we did this is because our 549 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: friend and I'm assuming front to the podcast, Max Twitard, 550 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: well enemy of the he's not allowed okay. Uh, Max 551 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: basically dared us too. For Sam and I took a 552 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: meal for our friends. It is so toxic. Sam and 553 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: I just don't never cook. We we just never cooked. 554 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: Sam has, Sam has Misha, and I have restaurants, so 555 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: like we don't, we don't cook. So okay, Sam explained 556 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: what we made. We met a food, so we emended 557 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: new food. It's called sleeves and it's sweeping the nation. 558 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm actually, I just want you both to know I'm 559 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: already stressed and almost angry actually about the story, so 560 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: please contain. I enjoyed. I enjoyed everything that had to 561 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: do with making meal, except for like being in the kitchen, 562 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: like making it. I hated, Like you guys, literally you 563 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: both need to become like cooks in the military for 564 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: six months. I hate No, I have one, nothing to 565 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: do with the military. But they're just like, yeah, I 566 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: don't know, just like I just hate chores. I don't 567 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: find them fun. I don't find them relaxing, and it 568 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: brings me no pleasure for someone to say, this is 569 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: really good, thank you, It brings me no pleasure. I resented. 570 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: In fact, yeah, do you have any desire to please 571 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: other people? Well, sexually, of course, yes, have they been 572 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: like you must have douced. Everyone in the house would 573 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: have been you would have loved that. I would have 574 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: loved that. That's great if every every night it was 575 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: another person's turn, Okay, tonight, it's totally has turned us 576 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: to do everyone in the house. Yeah, exactly, then I 577 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: would have you know, I would have I would have 578 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: really enjoy it, but like, yeah, oh, god it. But anyway, 579 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: we need sleeves, which uh so our in our restaurant 580 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: was we actually did a pop up a sleeve pop up, okay, 581 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: and it was called Brooklyn Sleeve co it was called 582 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: the brook Yes, I mean honestly, so far it's pretty 583 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: kind of marketable. Not to bring it back to advertising, 584 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: but I do want to know what a sleeve is. 585 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: So a sleeve is so you can you can pick 586 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: between three different kinds of sleep. So step one steps right, 587 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: because because yeah, you know, like so how the menu 588 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: works is there are three steps how we do things 589 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: a little bit different? Well actually because you know, like 590 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: Americans love their cages, right, and it's like you you 591 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta structurate for them. If they don't feel 592 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: like they're at an airport there there, they they're scared, 593 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: so we have to structure it for them. But then 594 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: they also need to have a slight level of choice 595 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: so that they can still feel Yeah. So okay, so 596 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: step one is you pick your sleep. And your sleep 597 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: can either be corn no, it can be corn yeah 598 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: large or diet. Wait, so this is the wrap that 599 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: your sleep goes in, and so that's the sleep. So 600 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: it's either it's not the it's not it's the sleep. Oh, 601 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: it's a tortilla. Got it. So so it's either a 602 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: quaran tortilla, flower tortilla, or a large flower tortilla. No, 603 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: it's either no, no corn sleeve, a large sleep, or 604 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: a diet. I'm starting to realize that you you guys invented. 605 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and guess kind of mediocre tacos. No. No, 606 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: because these they're international. They're they're pulling from all different cultures. 607 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: And you can culture because that's the next that's the 608 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: next step, right, It's like, okay, I'm sorry, I will 609 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: stop interrupting. So, so the first step is you choose 610 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: your sleeve and its corn medium or large. No you're not, 611 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: it's corn, diet or large. I got it. Okay, okay, 612 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: So then you pick your fillings. So then you pick 613 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: which nation you want your sleeve to be from, not 614 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: nation region, okay, and what are the region because sleeves 615 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: have no borders. The regions are normal. Well, now this 616 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 1: is getting to be a little problematic. See that's actually 617 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 1: that's a red herring. But keep going normal, um Italian, 618 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: Italian or American? All American? Okay? And would you like 619 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 1: to maybe explain what each of those entails or is 620 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: it kind of self explaining? Well, normal, normal is, you know, 621 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: a normal sleep is obviously like uh beans, cilantrow, uh peppers. 622 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: We were kind of we were inspired by the flavors 623 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: of a taco for that one. So normal is one 624 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: could say, kind of leaning Latin American. Sure one could 625 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: say it, and I don't. I'm sorry. I keep trying 626 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: to put a label on things. I don't know if 627 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: you can say that. Because these said, these were mading 628 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: Long Island. I should I should actually just be really 629 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: comfortable with the with the label that you guys should 630 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: normal normal And then Italian we had I believe meat 631 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: because that's one of the things that spoke to me 632 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: at the at the I assumed pre made no offense, 633 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: pre made Yeah, what do you mean? The door made them, 634 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: you know normally. If not to brag, but when I 635 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: make meat bolls in fact make them myself. They're not 636 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: like a frozen me like you like you kill you know, 637 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 1: like I buy meat and then I mix it with 638 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: you know, onions, you know, spices and whatever, and I 639 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: rolled it in all I don't I don't know me 640 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: so like right, okay? Uh? And and then all Americans 641 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: was I think sausage. I think American cheese made hot dog. 642 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 1: Actually there was a hot dog too. No, no, that's 643 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: that's part of the All American sleeve. But then if 644 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: if you're vegan, you can replace any of the needs 645 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: with Oh I'm forgetting about the best part. Okay, So 646 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: for for just two more dollars, you can add guawk 647 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: or awakened guak. Yeah, and awakened gualk is guawk with ginger. 648 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: Is this right? Ginger? And you can add the the 649 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: awaking block or the glock to any redson you want. Hey, 650 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: waken gwak is just an awesome way to get like 651 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: a certain boost of energy and clarity. Yeah, it's good 652 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: for the mon right, So it's more it's kind of 653 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: a supplement. Yeah, I mean it's we have health in 654 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: mind first and foremost. But if but if you if you, 655 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: if you don't want meat, you can replace any of 656 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: the meat with cashew. Oh cool. So just to recap, 657 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: you choose to leave and it can be corn diet 658 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: or large. And then you choose a filling which can 659 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: be Norman Italian a region excuse me, which is can 660 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: be normal Italian or all American. Then on top of that, 661 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: you can choose an additional topping, which is quawk, and 662 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: if you're a vegan, you can replace any of the 663 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: meats with cashews. Well that is the second step. I 664 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: believe the third step was tagus us on all socials. 665 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: And now we're back to advertising. We're back to advertise. 666 00:40:54,680 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: I know, Oh my god, Sam's right. It actually was 667 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: a hit. Everyone everyone loved this, saying how good the 668 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: sleeves were, and uh, we had them eating their damn 669 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: words along with the sleeves because they thought we were 670 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: all going to fail and they were going to starve. 671 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: So I saw a couple of people make trips to 672 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: the kitchen and do something through the sleeves and come back. 673 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah that's not right. Yeah, that's not sure they were 674 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure they were just them taking better photos for 675 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: the social y. Yeah the lighting was better in the kitchen. Yeah, 676 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 1: um we and we actually should have made dessert sleeves. 677 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: Oh that's fun. And now what would those look like? 678 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: Do you think in terms of steps and categories, I 679 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: think it's like maybe it's like chocolate or all natural, 680 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: which would be maybe like Parisian, Parisian, Parisian. What's what's 681 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: in the Parisian what's the Parisian A crepe with like, 682 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: um oh, okay, that's good. I don't know something. Yeah, okay. 683 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: Desert sleeves are you pick your sleeve which is either 684 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: crepe or regular sleep, in which case you're just having 685 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: a meal. Again, for it's a savory if you choose regular. 686 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: If you choose regular, then you're right back to square 687 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: one and you have to choose. So regular has those 688 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: three options, and then the other option is French, Parisian Parisian. Yeah, 689 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: specifically Parisian, not the rest of France. Okay, it's a 690 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: really specific region. And so then when you choose Parisian, 691 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: then the sub options there are chocolate, all natural and 692 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: double Parisian grape. Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's beautiful. I think 693 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: what I learned most from this business venture was we 694 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: actually found at the end of the meal and sort 695 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: of an m night Shamalon style twist. So we thought 696 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: our diet wraps were our diet sleeves were um let 697 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: us wraps. Turns out the whole time they were cabbage. 698 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: And I learned the cabbage and lettuce are two distinct 699 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: different vegetables. I'm going to kill you both. It was delicious. 700 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: It was delicious. So there's something about cooking not being 701 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: And I hate that I feel this way because it's 702 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: so prescriptive. It's like, what do I care that that 703 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: both of you don't cook? But but in my mind, 704 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, you are missing like a big part of 705 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 1: the experience of of life. Now all my other experience 706 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: are heightened because of it. You think, so, yeah, you're 707 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 1: actually having you're actually having the best you know, you 708 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: have the best life, the best sex, the best kind 709 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: of like career everything because you don't cook. Because I don't, 710 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm not spending like so much time being this like 711 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: like oh god, okay, now I have to go to 712 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: the supermarket and I have to get all the little 713 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: puzzle pieces for me to arrange my sad little puzzle 714 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: at home, and then like feed myself. It's yeah, no, 715 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: who is time for that? I mean, that is the 716 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: big question is who has time for that? And that's 717 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,280 Speaker 1: why that and that's how we get to this problem 718 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: of reservations. Because you are eating out at Michelin Star 719 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: raided restaurants every night of the week, three times a day, 720 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: three times a day, and we are talking, we are 721 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: talking reservations that need to be booked ahead of time 722 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: by a team of assistance. Yeah. You have a breakfast team, 723 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: a lunch team, and a dinner team, and their jobs 724 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: are just booking reservations. And so Miriam at Julio's Dinner 725 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: dot com. Yeah yeah, And and let me tell you something, 726 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: she's a real bit really, she takes it seriously. She 727 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: has made she's she has made people of the restaurant 728 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: industry because they're like I can't deal with like, I 729 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: got into this because I want to have like because 730 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: I believe food brings people together. I think she got 731 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 1: into it because she likes to see me eat. Well 732 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: she did, but I'm saying that people the people that 733 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: have quit but because of yea, So okay, if you don't, 734 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: I want to know a little bit, like what's straight 735 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: about reservations to you? Just the obsession with planning things out, 736 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 1: the like needing to know where you're going to be 737 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: on Thursday night or something, lack of spontaneity. Uh, just 738 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: just like something else to put on your on your calendar. Yeah, 739 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: it's like you know, you know those kids in schools 740 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: who like love buying, like planners and like writing things 741 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: on the It's just like, what what are you planning for? 742 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: So would you say like you kind of wake up 743 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: and then the correct things come to you at the 744 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: correct times, and you just kind of go through a natural, 745 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: intuitive series of actions. Yeah, it's very Yeah, it's very 746 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: free flowing. Yeah, yeah, I would this is true for you. 747 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: I'm realizing the Julio. The Julio texts are can you 748 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: hang out right now? Yeah? Some board right now. It's 749 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: always kind of shocking to me. I'm like, don't you 750 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: don't want to plan even a little bit plan plan right, 751 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: but but it's you know, it's it just it's just 752 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: so tedious you kind of I think what I'm getting is, 753 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: like you kind of planning is inherent. You want to 754 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: maximize the positivity and you know, you want to maximize 755 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: the number of things you're doing that make you feel happy, 756 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: and planning is never going to make you feel good. 757 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: It's just kind of like busy work and logistical work 758 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: that you have to do. So if you just like 759 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: don't do that and keep at every moment doing the 760 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: thing that you want to be doing. Also, that's better. Yes, 761 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 1: but also I think I enjoy um discovery and possibilities 762 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: and if you and serendipitous, yeah, I feel ah, then 763 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: it's like this. Yeah. No, so I will say in 764 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 1: the restaurant world, I think there's a toxic other side 765 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: to someone's busting my door. Who could it be? Think 766 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: that is? I have no idea answer? Yeah, answer while 767 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: you're on the pod bringing the computer. Okay, I'm bringing 768 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: the computer. This is the edge we need. Oh my god, 769 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: this is we said from the beginning. We want someone 770 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 1: to enter the partmo to see who it is. He's 771 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: walking around in complete darkness. It's literally complete darkness. Hello, Okay, 772 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: I don't know who it is, but I'm okay, this 773 00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:01,359 Speaker 1: is so perfect. Ask them their name and um, their sexuality. Well, 774 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: I think I think that. Um, you know, I hate 775 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: to break it to you. It's probably going to be 776 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: a big bumber, but I think it's just someone delivering 777 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: something to a neighbor. I kind of not even to 778 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,919 Speaker 1: me because I didn't. I didn't. I have not asked 779 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: for anything. No, Well, you would never order something ahead 780 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: of time. Well that's the other thing about cooking, is okay. 781 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing. That's the other thing 782 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: about cooking is why would I plan for food when 783 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm not hungry? I just just one quick introjection is 784 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: just for the lizards at home. You stood up and 785 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: so at any given point you could have turned the land. 786 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: You actually stood up and went to the door. It 787 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: is now it is completely pitch dark, and you decided 788 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: to then just go right back to the couch. Night 789 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: is dark and and and and day is right. It's like, 790 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: why just don't fight it? Yeah? Yeah, who takes a 791 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: bold empty light stance on stradio lap this week? Just 792 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: when you thought the takes couldn't couldn't get hot again? 793 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: Here he is. So I want to know. So reservations 794 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: are straight? I want to know because to me, the 795 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: alternatives reservations then often is you go somewhere and you 796 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: are told the weight is two and a half hours. 797 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: But what if you want to eat there? Yeah? What 798 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: do you want to eat there? But I think what 799 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,759 Speaker 1: I'm running up against is like you don't want to 800 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: plan ahead, but then you do want to like go 801 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: to like three different restaurants and be told like, no, 802 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,400 Speaker 1: not here, we have an hour wait, we have a 803 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: forty five minute wait. We have a two hour Wait, 804 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: what if you just planned ahead and then I didn't 805 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: have to do that whole that that whole process. But 806 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: you just walk into a deli and see what they 807 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: have there. I think, okay, isn't like restaurants period. I 808 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 1: now I'm understanding. What's happening is that you don't care 809 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: about food quality. No. I just I just want to 810 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: get it over with. I just I just want them. Yeah, okay, 811 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 1: that's I think that's that's to get over. But I 812 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: also don't like. I don't like my tickets ahead of time. 813 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 1: I don't like, you know, for things that I do enjoy, right, 814 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: I do enjoy go to the movies. I do enjoy parties, 815 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: I do enjoy going to be but I don't like 816 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: the I don't take us ahead of time because like, wait, 817 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: someone stuck with me, hello again? Has seven thirty let's 818 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 1: say seven seven, okay, because it's seven or seven now? Okay? Sorry, wow, wow, 819 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: someone's planning ahead. I know, I know, No, I agree 820 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: with that. I hate when tickets go on sale for 821 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: something I want to go to because it's like two 822 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: months away and it's like I have no idea what 823 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing, Like, how would I know? Why 824 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: would I commit to something that I don't know what 825 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: I'll be doing that week? But it's something to look 826 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: forward to. I mean, don't you like being like looking 827 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: at your calendar and being like, oh my god, in 828 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 1: two weeks I get to see I get to see 829 00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 1: j Lo Lie. Sometimes I like it, but sometimes that 830 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 1: stresses me out too. If it's something I feel like 831 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: I'm like in love with and I'm like, I know 832 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to freak out, then I'll look forward to it. 833 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: But even then looking forward to it kind of hurts too, 834 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: because it's like I wish it were today. Well, I 835 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: have never I I cannot recall the last time I 836 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,600 Speaker 1: like saw a calendar and was excited for something that 837 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 1: was coming, you know what I mean. It's like it's 838 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: like because I never plan ahead that much because you 839 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 1: don't plan things you want to do, so the only 840 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: things on your calendar are like things you have to 841 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: do that have been added that are like meetings and stuff. Yeah, 842 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: well you have to reclaim the calendar, I guess. I see. 843 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: What's happening for you is that for you are the 844 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: calendar is a space of like you know, responsibilities and 845 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: obligations and and negative things, and you're like and so 846 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: you're like, anything good can only happen serendipitously or in 847 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, I would say so, And why would 848 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: you want to pollute You're fun with the same structures 849 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: that make you unhappy. You know what I'm meaning? You 850 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: know why I think? I think. I like anticipation, I 851 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: like being I like being like it is today's Tuesday. 852 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm so excited that on Friday it's I'm going to 853 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: go to this party or I'm going to go to 854 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,959 Speaker 1: this restaurant, and it gives me something to look forward 855 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: to during the week. That's nice. You don't relate to that, see, 856 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: but see I don't. I don't dislike my week. Okay, 857 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 1: sol he doesn't necessarily just like because we either don't 858 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: dislike my week. I'm just saying, Julio, be nice to 859 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: be tired. I'm saying, it's like, uh, a party happening 860 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the week doesn't excite me because 861 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: because you're literally constantly in a state of joy, because 862 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: everything you do is the best thing ever, and because 863 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: you are self actualized at all times. Is that what 864 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: I'm hearing no, because I'm busy thinking about what I'm 865 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: doing right now. I see, so you have never thought 866 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: about the future, not in, not in. He can't wait 867 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: for that? Okay, Okay, all right, Sam, Okay, what about 868 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,439 Speaker 1: like things like, say like your television show coming out, 869 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: Like were you looking forward to that date or were 870 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,840 Speaker 1: you like? It's made and I'm happy with it. I 871 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: don't care anymore. Really, yeah, you don't. You don't care 872 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: about reaction or whatever. I was. I was very happy 873 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 1: and very excited to do it. That was like peak 874 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: joy for me associated with the show. It was doing it. 875 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 1: Now it's like, oh you want to see it? Okay, 876 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like and I'm a 877 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: lot of people are liking it. I'm glad. I'm very 878 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,280 Speaker 1: liking it. But but I think my joy comes from 879 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 1: doing things not so much like perception or reception. Interesting 880 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 1: say that now, wastually have a big flop on your hands? 881 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 1: I yeah, you know, I hope I never find out 882 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: when I have a big lop of my hands, you 883 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I mean, that is a way 884 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: a way to self preserve is you know, a method 885 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: of self preservation is like if you don't care about 886 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: positive reviews. Then you're also not going to care about 887 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: negative like if you never put any weight on that 888 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 1: to begin with, and you're not going to be disappointed 889 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,280 Speaker 1: if in the future you make something that people hate. Yea, yeah, 890 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,760 Speaker 1: here's hoping, here is hoping. So so what are takeaways 891 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: from this episode? I mean, it's just interesting because I'm 892 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm thinking about the reservations thing, and I'm like, 893 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 1: I think it's that you don't like restaurants. No, No, 894 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: it's not that I don't like planning. You don't like planning. Yeah, okay, 895 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 1: all right, okay, but you do buy tickets to go 896 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: to parties. I know this is per fact. Well okay, 897 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 1: and you also know that I that I I buy two, three, four, 898 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,959 Speaker 1: or five six tickets to a party and then often 899 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,279 Speaker 1: forget about the party. Yeah, I do know that to 900 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: be true. Do you wanna kind of complicate this a 901 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: little bit? Because in my experience, for instance, I wasn't 902 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: there this year, but in the past when I've gone 903 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,400 Speaker 1: to Fire Island with you, I do know that you 904 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: organize that way ahead of time. And in fact, both 905 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: this year and in the past, you have been the 906 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: kind of point person who in fact planned ahead booked 907 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: a house and then like filled it out with people. 908 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 1: That's kind of a pretty big responsibility. Well okay, so 909 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: here here is how that happens. Is that is my 910 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: way of avoiding an email change with a bunch of 911 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: people being like when do we go when it works 912 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 1: for you? What about this? What about that? So I 913 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,720 Speaker 1: just I just walk into the little office, I say 914 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 1: I want this, I don't mind what dates. Just tell 915 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: me how much and then I leave. And then I 916 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: tell people when when the thing is and if you 917 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,919 Speaker 1: want to come, great, If you don't want to come, 918 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: that's fine, you know what I mean. So it's like 919 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,919 Speaker 1: a way of like, so you're kind of you're doing 920 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 1: the minimum minimal amount of planning so that you can 921 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: avoid even more planning exact actually exactly yeah, wow wow 922 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: wow wow. But I do not I do not. I 923 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: do not like being the point person. I do not 924 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,399 Speaker 1: like being point person. That that part I really don't like. Well, 925 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,280 Speaker 1: and there, you know, you do somewhat give some responsibility 926 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: to others as far as like say you've you've hired 927 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: maybe James in the past to sort of like figure 928 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: out who's going what weeks correct yes, well he's your 929 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 1: other main employee. First you have the whole team of 930 00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: people making reservations for you breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And 931 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: then there's James, who's in charge of the real estate 932 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: brand of your LLC. Right right, right, right, Yeah, we 933 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,879 Speaker 1: have many properties, many properties to look to look after. Yeah, 934 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: there's the rants and he manages the various he manages 935 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 1: the various email threads among gay men. Yeah, there's the 936 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 1: beach club. There's the beach Club. I love the beach Club. Yeah, 937 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 1: if you want to if you want to book, it's 938 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,239 Speaker 1: only if you do it, if you do it after 939 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 1: two pm, it's only so many dollars. It's actually really 940 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: worth it. With one bottle from the company that brought 941 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: you sleeps comes mystery. Yeah, and it comes in, and 942 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: it comes in three flavors bubbly, bubbly red, and ordinary 943 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: or refreshing refreshing. It's it's bubbly red or refreshing. And 944 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 1: you can get any of them in a non alcoholic yeah, 945 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: or with the awakened booster. Yes, that's right. It is 946 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: so funny. Throughout this entire podcast, I've kept being like, okay, 947 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 1: well it's dark out now. This is dark because it's 948 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: gonna get and yeah, you have shown me that it 949 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: keeps getting darker and you keep getting more and more invisible, 950 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 1: and even it does sort of create an evil energy 951 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: on your end. I mean it is. I'm going to think, 952 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,640 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, I'm going to take a screenshot 953 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: I've actually I've taken to so far. I took one 954 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: like a half hour ago, and one now, which I 955 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 1: think will be huge. But yeah, the way the computer 956 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: is highlighting your face, it's it's kind of Joker's joke 957 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: video joker, or it's also video. It's like, this is 958 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: a video. Someone puts it in a VHS tape and 959 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: it's you and you're telling them what's going to happen. 960 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 1: And yeah, someone some kids put a mystery video in 961 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 1: the VHS and it's that's radio app And if you're 962 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,120 Speaker 1: explaining the concept of sleeves, it's if you watch this video, 963 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: you'll die in seven days. And then the video starts 964 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, so it's regular Italian, all American. 965 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: They're not countries. There are regions. Because sleeves have no border. Yeah, 966 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: that's it. On napkins, sleeves have no borders. Only buttons 967 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 1: wing Wow should final segment? You just remember what I 968 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: went to advertising school for two years. I completely forgot 969 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: about that. That's where it comes from. Yeah, this eye 970 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: towards branding and aesthetics, this obsession with whether it's something 971 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,959 Speaker 1: that's sellable or not. I couldn't just make a meal 972 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: for my friends. I have to launch a business exactly. 973 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: I couldn't just be like, oh, maybe my friends will 974 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,919 Speaker 1: like eating this. I'm like, no, how is this going 975 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 1: to tack on socials? Yeah? Max was like, you know, 976 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: you guys have to cook, and Sam was like, maybe 977 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: we could do like a pasta and You're like, no, 978 00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: we're launching a brand. Yeah, I mean literally that's what offen. Yeah, 979 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 1: well for a while, I want to do Thanksgiving? Right? 980 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Did I tell you that that? There was also talk 981 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 1: of doing Christmas in July. I think it was August. Me, 982 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 1: what are some Christmas? Well we would have had it's 983 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 1: essentially the same as Thanksgiving, but maybe do a big ham. 984 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: A big ham. I think meat is so funny. It's 985 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: pretty funny. Julio really wanted to cook meat. Yeah, I 986 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,880 Speaker 1: want to touch some meat, just to see. There was 987 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: also supposed to be a dress code for our dinner, 988 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: but we couldn't decide on which code to stick with 989 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 1: God to serve no offense, of course to the chefs, 990 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 1: but to serve what you have described and then make 991 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: people also dress in a dress code. It's truly adding. 992 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: Was going to be, oh, yeah, we've got about the 993 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: dress codes, because well, there are three kinds of dress codes. 994 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: There's regular, there's pants. It was well, Julio pitched white party, 995 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: which I think is tasteful of show your pride. I 996 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 1: want to show your pride and you come as the 997 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 1: most you you can come as you know exactly. It's 998 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: so unimaginative. It's interesting the narrative of pride. Why wouldn't 999 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 1: you want to become better? No, you need to love 1000 01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: yourself and where whatever you love to. Two sleeves Brooklyn 1001 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: Sleeve Co. Not Sleeves Unlimited. It's Brooklyn Sleeve COO b 1002 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: SC B s C. We have two locations um in. 1003 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,439 Speaker 1: Both are in Williamsburg on North seventh and North THEID. 1004 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: They're one block apart, block apart. We just love the 1005 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 1: punk rock spired of Williamsburg and want to embody that 1006 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 1: with each and every sleeve. What we give to you, 1007 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 1: and do you take reservations? Absolutely not, No, there's no 1008 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 1: there's no seating. Actually, come as you are, Come as 1009 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: you are and leave. Please, come as you are and leave. 1010 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Please is a motto. I think we should do our 1011 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: final segment. Before we do. I want to just say 1012 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 1: this is definitely one of our more confusing episodes in 1013 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 1: a way that I really support. I think, Julio, you 1014 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,439 Speaker 1: helped us find our edge again. Julio, I cannot see 1015 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 1: you and haven't been able to for approximately forty minutes, 1016 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: but I want to thank you, and I want to 1017 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 1: and I would extend my gratitude towards you. You're welcome. 1018 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: I have no idea if you're smiling or frowningly, no idea. What. Okay, 1019 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: let's see it. Let's see that grin. Oh my god. 1020 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 1: Um okay, Julio. Our final segment is called shout Outs, 1021 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 1: and in it we give a shout out, sort of 1022 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: in an homlage to the classic street tradition, shout out 1023 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: to anything that we are enjoying. Oh that's nice. It's 1024 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: kind of a positive spin. Um. And imagine you're in 1025 01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 1: TRL at Times square and two thousand one, shouting out 1026 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 1: to your squad back home, but about anything that you enjoy. Wait, 1027 01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,240 Speaker 1: can you guys go first? We're gonna go first. You 1028 01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 1: would never do that, do you worry? George? Do you 1029 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: have one? Yeah? I have one? What's up hot slats 1030 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,919 Speaker 1: of the world and especially the Tri State area where 1031 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: we all hail from. I want to give a quick 1032 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: shout out to nonfiction. I recently rediscovered the joy of 1033 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: reading nonfiction. I'll say this much, and um, this is 1034 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,959 Speaker 1: coming from my heart and not just my brain. Every day, 1035 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: for my entire day, I am reading things around the 1036 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 1: Internet because that is my job. And then I have 1037 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 1: to kind of think of new ways to put those 1038 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: things back in the Internet so that the content wars 1039 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,880 Speaker 1: can continue it And so because of that, when I 1040 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 1: want to take a break, I usually turned to fiction 1041 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I can't read about the real world. 1042 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 1: You know, it makes me sad, it makes me annoyed, 1043 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: it makes you want to you guessed it kowing myself. 1044 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: And then recently I realized that nonfiction doesn't have to 1045 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 1: be unimaginative. It can also be artful. It can also 1046 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 1: have beautiful sentences. It can even remind you of fiction. 1047 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: So I am in my rediscovering nonfiction era. I am 1048 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: loving it. And Honey, if your book doesn't have real 1049 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: people that exist in the world and it has fake 1050 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: fictional characters, I don't even want to take a look 1051 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: at it for the next approximately three weeks. Um, okay, 1052 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: I'll go next. What's up New York City, l A 1053 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,240 Speaker 1: And everywhere in between. I want to give a huge 1054 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: shout out to the vintage store down the street from me. 1055 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 1: I think it's called Brooklyn Vintage. I just love their stuff, 1056 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 1: and I have a little hunch that everyone that works 1057 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,959 Speaker 1: there is in a cult. I have been going there, 1058 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, once a month for a few months, and 1059 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: it just seems that everyone's a little too committed. You know. 1060 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: I've worked places before, and I never liked my job 1061 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: that much, and I never took so much pride in 1062 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,439 Speaker 1: my store. And these people. Something's up. They all look 1063 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,479 Speaker 1: the same, they kind of dressed the same. Honey. I 1064 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 1: think there's something going on in the mythical space. Uh, 1065 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. There's a cult. There's 1066 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 1: some spirits and I love their furniture, and um, I 1067 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 1: hope you guys get a dresser soon because I am 1068 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 1: in the market for one. Dressers are always ugly, and 1069 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 1: let's not celebrate that. Ask your senators for change. Whoo whoo. 1070 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they're a family, Yeah, the family run business. Sam. 1071 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: You know they're all they're all the same age, you 1072 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. This is my impression of Sam 1073 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,480 Speaker 1: entering a family Thanksgiving dinner. Are you guys in a 1074 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: cauld You all look the same, and you look really happy. 1075 01:05:55,040 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 1: You guys literally look the same. Um, okay, you're ready 1076 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:06,920 Speaker 1: whenever you're ready. Shout out to the night. Thank you 1077 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,439 Speaker 1: for engulfing me mystery, thank you for welcoming the moon. 1078 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for showing me the stars. Shout out to 1079 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 1: the night and all the all the revelations. It might 1080 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 1: bring everything. Who shout out to the night. It's a 1081 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: beautiful shout out to end. Yeah, it's very good night moon, 1082 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Good night for like millennial parents. It's actually the new 1083 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 1: It's like the millennial gen Z version of goodnight Moon. 1084 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 1: Shout out to the night. I stand the moon, I 1085 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 1: stand the stars. Moon Comma go off spelled a ws. 1086 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,040 Speaker 1: The stars are slaying tonight. Well, Julio, it has been 1087 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,479 Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure to have you back in the lab. 1088 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 1: Every time you come in here, you sort of um 1089 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: rock our sense of reality. I yes, I feel shook 1090 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,919 Speaker 1: as um as as the new slang goes. I feel raw, 1091 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 1: I feel I even feel do I say I have 1092 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: a sense of uncertainty? Oh well that's a that's a 1093 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,680 Speaker 1: good place to be in it, which is good. That 1094 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 1: was the goal. Actually, I mean we started out, we 1095 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: started out feeling like we were too professional, too button down. 1096 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Right now, I would say, I am in kind of 1097 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 1: uh ripped cargo pants in the middle of the desert, 1098 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 1: having just left a train or excuse me, a plane 1099 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 1: that crashed down. I am in lost. And yeah, it's 1100 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,920 Speaker 1: going to take a few seasons to figure out the mystery. 1101 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: But hey, well you're they were in heaven, right, No 1102 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: one knows to this day. Really, I thought they were 1103 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 1: in heaven. Oh no, the message has been lost to 1104 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 1: the sounds of time. I thought they were in Christian heaven. 1105 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,040 Speaker 1: Many have said that they were, many have said the 1106 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 1: they were not. We can't know for sure. That You 1107 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: can just google it. No, no, it redirects to the homepage, 1108 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 1: the Google homepage. Actually, it's the one thing you can't google, 1109 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: is what happened at the end of Lost. Yeah that's 1110 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 1: pretty awesome, Okay, well, we'll never know. Well to the unknown, 1111 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,639 Speaker 1: to the young, well cheers, cheers, espresso shots all around. 1112 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Good Night,