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Speaker 1: Good mornings, Swirl and welcome to the No Dawn's podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, June twenty eighth. Classic

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Speaker 1: Factory back in business. I'm jay E Skeets, rolling with

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Speaker 1: just a quick apology to all of our Apple podcast listeners.

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Speaker 1: We had one hell of a time trying to get

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Speaker 1: Friday's drop podcast up on Apple podcasts, like up in

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Speaker 1: that feed JD. I don't know if you want to

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Speaker 1: speak to this at all. Did it ever get there?

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Speaker 1: I think it did eventually, I don't know. Yeah, twenty

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Speaker 3: Mid afternoon on Saturday it was dropped.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, I don't know what to say. Apple,

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Speaker 4: get your shit together. I mean, I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: That's as polite as I can be about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, we've been posting the show to

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Speaker 1: Apple for fifteen plus years. Most times it works, but

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Speaker 1: it's been a rough couple of weeks, so we're being honest.

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Speaker 1: Ever since that update they did things would hate. So

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Speaker 1: look again, apologies to all of our Apple podcast listeners.

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Speaker 1: We'll try and be better. Hopefully they're better and it

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Speaker 2: But I'm lucky for you listeners out there. It was

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Speaker 2: a timeless classic on Friday. So you know, if there

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Speaker 2: comes out Friday, that would have been ideal. But a

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Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon the perfect time to listen.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's true. Well that's sort of the bad news.

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Speaker 1: If there is such a thing. But let's get to

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Speaker 1: the good news right away. Here on a Monday, we.

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Speaker 4: Had a wedgie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Friday night. It was a blowout game. The games

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Speaker 1: stunk between the Hawks and the Bus on Friday. But

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Speaker 1: Trey Young with the very gentle wedgie. They're like the

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Speaker 1: bouncing it over the rim, yeah to the other side.

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Speaker 1: Very rare, and it's our fifty eighth wedgie of the season.

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Speaker 1: It's a big one task because I think we hadn't Aggie,

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Speaker 1: I want to say, in like nineteen or twenty days.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's the longest streak we had

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Speaker 1: gone this season without one. So nice to see when

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Speaker 1: they're on Friday night.

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Speaker 3: And it's funny to see the graphic there, fifty eight

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Speaker 3: on pace for fifty eight because we don't have a

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Speaker 3: lot of games left here in the NBA season. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're all dreaming for sixty. But let's remember this is

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Speaker 3: And bunch, sure, That was amazing though, go on the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Reggie Miller was quick to say, Weggie, you know,

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Speaker 1: Did know?

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Speaker 5: For it was the only place in the world you

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Speaker 5: It was like it happened on a Friday night, which

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Speaker 5: But it just sort of felt every time the Bucks

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Speaker 5: that fourth quarter man Chris middleton water performance. And you

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Speaker 5: and if I ever have to defend my argument in

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Speaker 5: your honor, I present this here fourth quarter performance from

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Speaker 5: the Honorable James Christian Middleton as evidence that my premise

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Speaker 1: How many peers did you have down at the Fortress

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Speaker 1: last night, because you're extra ZENI here, Yeah, only only one.

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Speaker 5: But look, okay, it was so much fun, good naturedly

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Speaker 1: It was so much fundleton.

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Speaker 5: It's like, oh my god, I can't believe he knocked

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Speaker 5: teammates understood, like right now. Budenholzer was the same as, like,

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Speaker 5: just get him the ball. He's like, this is what's

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Speaker 5: great about basketball. When a guy gets hot like that.

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Speaker 5: It's like throw everything else out the window. Just go

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Speaker 5: for And he basically won this game and took control

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Speaker 5: which we'll get to. But even still with that, it

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Speaker 5: was a close game. It was in the balance. And

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Speaker 5: Chris Middleton, you know, a polarizing player. At times we're like, nope,

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Speaker 5: he's overrated, he's not that good, and other times it's like, man,

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Speaker 5: he's close to elite level when he plays like this.

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Speaker 5: Because they couldn't stop him and it must feel awesome

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Speaker 5: you're just dropping dagger after dagger after I had big

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Speaker 5: say it's okay, we're still in this, but it just

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Speaker 5: this overshadows a very dominant game again from Yannis. Bobby

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Speaker 5: Hortoise gave them some huge minutes last night. But Chris

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Speaker 5: Middleton deserves all the love this morning because in fourth

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Speaker 5: But it's sort of one of those things, like, man,

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Speaker 5: it was a great game. It was a great night.

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Speaker 5: It was great fun and we saw a guy just

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Speaker 5: great performance by Middleton and the Bucks and guys. I

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Speaker 4: Three reasons One again.

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Speaker 5: Middleton one, Chris Middleton was was just awesome last night.

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Speaker 5: They just feel it. Yannis, I think Budenholzers realize again

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Speaker 5: douchey may maybe make a reservation at the douchebag Sweet

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Speaker 4: Serve there.

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Speaker 2: I was in Zach Lowe's mode of one bear and

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Speaker 4: Only look at this guy.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that Lee and I were so close,

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Speaker 4: I really truly.

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Speaker 2: Feel honored because I did feel like being best buddies

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Speaker 2: the Hawks out there getting let up. I think there

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Speaker 2: how to stop on Middleton. Content had like a crazy

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Speaker 4: He knocks down to three.

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Speaker 2: It was basically eleven straight for Middleton on his way

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Speaker 4: Was nothing the Hawks could do. Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Have DeAndre Hunter hostly to be able to try and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And remember this guy, I mean Middleton. He had

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Speaker 1: He'd been bad, really bad, And we talked about it.

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Speaker 1: We've seen Drew do it at times. It's like this

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Speaker 3: Well? No, I know how hard, it's how exhausting it

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Speaker 3: didn't want to give up your spot there? It was.

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Speaker 4: It was packed.

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Speaker 3: It was absolutely packed. I really can't remember a playoff

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Speaker 3: That game was super duper loud but this one, this

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Speaker 3: I was not only felt like, you know, the Hawks

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Speaker 4: But it's too soon, man.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Chris Middleton at the end, it's just it

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Speaker 3: that's the weird thing that Chris Middleton wasn't blowing by anybody.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't shaking anybody off to get space. He really

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Speaker 3: did have a couple open ones, as Trey mentioned, they

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Speaker 3: the small lineup that they put out there with John

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Speaker 3: I don't think fifteen offensive rebounds for the Bucks to

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Speaker 3: nine for the Hawks. But in the end, Trey Young

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Speaker 3: I know he isn't feeling good, but he also wasn't

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Speaker 3: Who's going to show up? Sometimes it's Collins, but they

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Speaker 3: desperately needed bog down Bogdanovich to be.

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Speaker 4: Average something. You know, da broke Danovich right now? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They had some good looks last night, and if one

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Speaker 2: had a wide open one from the right corner. It

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Speaker 2: because Trey Young had to look from there too, and

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Speaker 2: they were just both way off. Bogdanovich didn't have it,

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Speaker 2: definitely laboring in the fourth quarter. Weird game for Trey

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Speaker 2: Young had a huge first quarter, huge third quarter. Twenty

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Speaker 2: nine of his thirty five points came in those two,

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Speaker 2: Like you're happy to get eighteen from Gallinari, but you're

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Speaker 2: really rely on him to be the second scorer? With

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Speaker 2: Trey hampered in the fourth, it was just it was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you guys think the Hawks would

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Speaker 1: they couldn't stop Middleton, It wouldn't be Trey Young stopping

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Speaker 5: Again, they sort of answered every other push from Milwaukee,

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Speaker 5: definitely you can make a case. I mean they sort

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Speaker 5: He was in and out a little bit of the lineup,

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Speaker 1: Capella was fantastic in his Yeah it's like incredible against

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, but then Compella doesn't really give them

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Speaker 1: So you know, well, can you not look at McMillan

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Speaker 5: I mean he was obviously fantastic, but I just think

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Speaker 5: just again, someone else of Bogdanovitch is that knee is

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Speaker 5: I think he's hampering, but he still played thirty five

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Speaker 5: In the playoffs, you know, you know, one makes excuses,

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Speaker 1: Sixteen on and like he hasn't been able to shoot

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Speaker 5: Can't and they need him as well to be kind

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Speaker 5: just kind of dribbling around and then just like, you

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Speaker 5: that that is definitely a problem here, And again credit

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Speaker 5: times Yanna switched out on Trey and it didn't get

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Speaker 1: Clearly the one time. Yeah, but other than that, he

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Speaker 5: Exactly Other than that, Trey was kind of looking around

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hawks fans definitely have the excuse in their heads

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Speaker 3: McMillan said, you know, bug Danovic isn't doing it. Kevin

434
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Speaker 3: Hurder is.

435
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 4: You know.

436
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 3: I thought he had like a decent game, the best

437
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,880
Speaker 3: four of eleven game I've ever seen, probably, but yeah,

438
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 3: they just needed space out there, and I think that's

439
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 3: what Nate McMillan was thinking with this, and Trey you know,

440
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,800
Speaker 3: wasn't getting into the paint, whether he was injured or not.

441
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 3: As I said, though he was he was one of

442
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 3: seven in Games one. In the fourth quarter of Game

443
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,479
Speaker 3: one and then you know, followed this one up with

444
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 3: a slow down in the fourth quarter as well.

445
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 4: It needs some help.

446
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 3: I mean, he's doing a fricking ton he like to

447
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 3: to ridicule or to to to poke holes and a

448
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 3: guy who had thirty five on twelve of twenty three

449
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 3: shooting it's It's yeah, we could say Bugdanovich was hurt,

450
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 3: but I mean a lot of the shots were just

451
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 3: open and he was off unless you know, he's it

452
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 3: just feels off when he's shooting. It just uh yeah,

453
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 3: those were those were just not going through. And that's

454
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 3: and that's the set part and the Bucks. You know,

455
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: for every year we look at this Bucks team and

456
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 3: they just don't look right in the fourth quarter. They

457
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 3: were the ones with the confidence and were calm, cool

458
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 3: and collected into the fourth quarter. Uh, they just look like,

459
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 3: you know, a guy like Yannis in his eighth year

460
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 3: already just now looks like he's you know, ready to

461
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 3: lead a team. I Mean, I think we could talk

462
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: about Middleton. But like you said, Skeets, I mean, he

463
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 3: is the guy that is amazing. He's he's he's dropping

464
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 3: thirty every single night. It's the quietest thirty because we

465
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 3: just you know, talk about what he can't do and

466
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 3: the free throws of taking over the narrative and that

467
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 3: kind of crap. But I mean, the guy is is

468
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 3: finding his holes in the defense and he's not forcing it,

469
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 3: and yeah, everybody just rides his back. This is a

470
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 3: this is a different fourth quarter Bucks team that we've

471
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Speaker 3: seen in the past.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it does feel like he's like a

473
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 1: starting pitcher tray and he gives you eight good innings.

474
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: You know, Abu gave up a run. He got you there.

475
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: But then they need a sort of like a guy

476
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 1: again to like hit a shot from the perimeter and

477
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: that and that's you know, this is one weakness because

478
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: you're not going to like go to him on the

479
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: perimeter and say, hit us a pull up jumper. No,

480
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: we had that beautiful little fade away working out of

481
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Speaker 1: the post.

482
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 4: That was big.

483
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: I felt like watching the game at home, like the

484
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: Hawk crowd going like, oh damn, man, if he's hitting that,

485
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: we're we're in real trouble here. But yeah, he gives

486
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 1: you those eight great innings and then you need like

487
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: a again, if it's Middleton, be your closer and be

488
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: your Eckersleeper or whoever else is a good closer in

489
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: the MLB nowadays, I'm dating myself with that reference. Who's

490
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: like the best closer in the MLB right now?

491
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 4: Who is? Do they even do that anymore?

492
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: It's all about the bullpens these days, skeets. You're asking

493
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: for five innings from your stars. Cover their fingers will

494
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: be covered in sticky stuff so they can up their

495
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: spin rates, and then you're going to the bullpen.

496
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 4: But Yannis, you know, he was that old.

497
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 2: School Roger Clemens kind of starter, piling up the innings.

498
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 2: He had what last night, thirty three and eleven. I

499
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: think that's his ninth thirty and ten game of the

500
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: postseason so far, the most since Shack had thirteen back

501
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 2: in two thousand. He hit that little fade away like

502
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: you're mentioning Skeets, hit a three pointer, but didn't really

503
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: settle for jumpers. Yannis has been pretty determined to get

504
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: to the rim here, not worried about missing free throws

505
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 2: like Lee's saying it is fun to count as many

506
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: seconds as you possibly can in ten seconds, because I mean,

507
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: in that crowd, we are not close to leaving the

508
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: Mississippis and we're like two, three, four, five, eleven, twelve, thirty, forty,

509
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: fifty sixty. How many seconds can you possibly say in

510
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: the count of ten seconds? I don't know, but Lee

511
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: is like zoomed in, hundred percent, locked in waiting to

512
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: see the ball just barely touch Giannie's fingertips as soon

513
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: as it hits What.

514
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: This guy, he's honest, he said, All I want to

515
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: do is be the man for three quarters and then

516
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 3: Drew or Chris Middleton can take us home.

517
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 4: And it's working for the bucks. Yeah.

518
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: I had a dude beside me say we've got to

519
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: speed this up. We've got to speed the count up

520
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: like it.

521
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: Was gonna work on. Yeah, it's number one and number

522
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 4: two like, yeah, how many? How many?

523
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: Like you need?

524
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 3: You need some airtime? That's what Mississippi is for. I

525
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: mean seconds don't go that fast. I mean if we

526
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 3: all had our iPhones out and we pressed start on

527
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: our timer, oh I pulled them up, But.

528
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 4: Would be very funny.

529
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Speaker 5: I will I will say as well, Dwight Howard was

530
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 5: in attendance last night along the baseline. I couldn't really

531
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 5: confirm it from my vantage point, but it looked like

532
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 5: he was also joining in the count at one pound

533
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 5: exactly exactly.

534
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: He knows all about it.

535
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 5: And I was like, man, I wish I had the

536
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 5: camera on that then, because it certainly looked like he

537
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 5: was joining him. You know, Dwight would be into that

538
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 5: for sure, you know so. And we got one air

539
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 5: ball out of it as well, so I think the

540
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 5: job was done. It's not bad. That's not bad. Yeah, yeah, well,

541
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, like I think, you know, it

542
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 5: was one of those things like I was enjoying it

543
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 5: because it was so much fun.

544
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: But I was also like kind.

545
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 5: Of rooting for Yannas to be like, just knock him down, man,

546
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 5: not shut us up, man shut us up.

547
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: But you know he.

548
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 5: Wouldn't quite do it. But an air ball is a

549
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 5: great thing to chant as well or to sing when

550
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 5: someone hits an airbl just everyone just collect actively in

551
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 5: that wave of that's great, so much got it's.

552
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 4: Really regretted not going to the game.

553
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 1: You seem to have had the greatest in your life.

554
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: I almost filmed. I almost filmed Lee getting into the

555
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: defense chance.

556
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 4: He was going forward.

557
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: He kind of had his mask half on and half off.

558
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: He was leaning forward that head locks were flowing.

559
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 5: Telling your man's standing room is the way of watching

560
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 5: NBA gues because you can you can get into it.

561
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 5: You're not standing in anyone's way.

562
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: Did you guys go to the exact same spot? It

563
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: looks like it from your photos? Yeah, okay, wow, you

564
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: got your spot.

565
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: I like that.

566
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 4: They're gonna put a little plaque there.

567
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: This is where Leela is standing or something like that

568
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: little truck out line where you stand.

569
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Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's amazing though. Yeah, just watching the

570
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: three throws, it's amazing. Everybody does the count and when

571
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: when he misses, but they're like, yeah, we did that, Yeah, everybody,

572
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 3: good d everybody. Then it goes through a man, have

573
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 3: done that better? Should we speed it up? How are

574
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 3: you gonna How are you gonna get to yet? But

575
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 3: we talk about the stuff he can't do. But as

576
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: Trey said, the thirty and ten numbers are freaking ridiculous,

577
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 3: And the only reason he didn't have a longer streak

578
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: here is because they smoked the Hawks in game two. Yeah,

579
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: because he's had thirty and ten since June tenth. I

580
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: mean it's it's just a run here, you know, into

581
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: the Brooklyn basically the beginning of the Brooklyn series where

582
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: he's smoking hot man. He had one bad game there

583
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the Brooklyn series. He was slow

584
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: in the first round.

585
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: But since then, God, all he does, it feels like,

586
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: is just spin one. He's turning into Siakam out there.

587
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: He just got but he spins and then he just

588
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: like with his go go gadget arms just like dunks

589
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: or lays it up over like the secondary defender that

590
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: comes and helps out. It's like the best case to

591
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: stop him right now is just to hope when he

592
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: spins that he drops the ball or like you can

593
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: like get a second swipe in at it, because that

594
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: happened a couple of times.

595
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 4: Play the spin exactly right.

596
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: Because he's doing it every single time. It feels like

597
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: but it's it's working because he's putting up these numbers.

598
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: Bobby Porta is like somebody slipped it in there. He

599
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: thought he was awesome. Just like energy change fifteen points.

600
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: I think he had off the bench and pretty limited role.

601
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: You got to keep playing him, but don't overthink that

602
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: because that he's just a spark. Pat Connington I thought

603
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: was pretty good too. I mean the box score shows

604
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: like a plus twenty five, but I think he had

605
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: that nice block. Now, I think he maybe fouled him,

606
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: but wasn't on Bogdanovic on the two on one fast

607
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: break where I think Pat Conington got he got a block.

608
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: He got credit with the block. Again, it may have

609
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: been a little hand slap in there, but he was

610
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: just like again, those those the type of guys in

611
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: the Bucks need just like a little spark, little energy,

612
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: and he was great.

613
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: And then PJ.

614
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: Tucker. I haven't seen anybody talk about him at all,

615
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: but when I was watching the fourth quarter from home,

616
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: when the Hawks were up and the Bucks were trailing,

617
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: there was like a stretch there like, yeah, Middleton was

618
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: scoring everything, so of course that deserves the headline, but

619
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: Tucker was making all those Tucker like plays, like he

620
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: was diving at a bounds. One he didn't he unfortunately

621
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: didn't save, but he like thudded off the ground. But

622
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: there's another one he saved. He was just like he

623
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: was everywhere on defense. If you go back and watch

624
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: it was awesome. You're like, oh, yeah, this is why

625
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna get PJ. Tucker, Like he is actively telling

626
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: people where to go. It's like kig Like it was

627
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: just cool. They got a little little stretch there where

628
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, Tucker, maybe like change the game

629
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: to a little bit at least defensively. So I thought

630
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: he was great. Any other notes from this one though.

631
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: Well, when you're talking about KG, like Bobby Portis is

632
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 5: doing the handclapped a couple of times with Trey, he

633
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 5: was like bringing up man, bringing up like they're real

634
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 5: crazy man defender, And yeah, I know Bobby, Bobby hit.

635
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: I think he hit two threes last night. He certainly

636
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 5: hit a huge one there in the first half, and

637
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 5: he gave them good energy. And again, Pat connorson four

638
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 5: offensive rebounds last night, I mean, that's what you want

639
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 5: from a from a role players, like, you know, maybe

640
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: the shots aren't there for you tonight, the offensive offense

641
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 5: isn't calling for you, but go out there and make

642
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: yourself effective. And I'm pretty sure two of those offensive

643
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: rebounds led to three pointers for Milwaukee.

644
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: So they almost always do, don't They offensive exactly get

645
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: kicked out and the guy steps into it and where.

646
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 5: He came from from to get those offensive rebounds. It

647
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: was just like he was on the perimeter the shot

648
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 5: went up and no one was boxing me out, no

649
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 5: one was paying any attention to him, and he went

650
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 5: in there and just it's a hustle, hard work play.

651
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 5: So coaches love that from the guys who you know,

652
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 5: again they're not really a part of the offense, not

653
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: a factor, and they do get the shot occasionally, but

654
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 5: they have to sort of make their own worth out

655
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 5: there on the court. And I thought he was really

656
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 5: good for him last night. I mean, no one was

657
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 5: bad for the Bucks. I didn't think last night.

658
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 4: I mean.

659
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 5: Drew offensively wasn't too bad. But defensively, again, the pressure

660
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: that they put on Tray from the start, picking him

661
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 5: up pretty much full court, just getting in his face,

662
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 5: just making it a little bit more uncomfortable for him

663
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 5: than they.

664
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Speaker 1: Wasn't that uncomfortable. I mean he hit two floaters and

665
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: a three to start.

666
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he did.

667
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 5: But again that you've got to give so much credit

668
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 5: to Trey for that because he goes into the paint,

669
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 5: you know, he busts down that defense and he's like,

670
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 5: I need to get something going, and they didn't have

671
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 5: much else, So yeah, it was. It was a pretty

672
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 5: impressive all round performance from Milwaukee.

673
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so I have a couple questions. First one, have

674
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: tickets been purchased already? Standing room only tickets for Game

675
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: four on Tuesday night? Lee, I'll throw that at you.

676
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 5: No, No, I wasn't planning on going last night. There

677
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 5: was a two tickets came available for eighty dollars on

678
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 5: Saturday during lunch, right, I don't like having my phone

679
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 5: out when I'm with the boys at a restaurant. Right them,

680
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, bye bye, bye bye, and I couldn't get them.

681
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 5: I kept saying, like honestly, for over an hour, it

682
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 5: kept saying, someone else has bought these tickets, they're no

683
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 5: longer favable.

684
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 4: We'll get rid of them.

685
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 5: Then why can I keep on seeing them? And then

686
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 5: my wife actually was like, I've got one here for

687
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 5: one twenty five. You want it? And I'm like, what

688
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 5: if I.

689
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: Get the you know?

690
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 5: And then she's like you want to buy others? And

691
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 5: I'm like, just buy that one, buy that one, just

692
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 5: buy that one. I don't know, And then yeah, so

693
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 5: I got I got mine that way. But I haven't

694
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 5: haven't bought any for tomorrow night, not expecting to get

695
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 5: I'm not expecting to go.

696
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: I don't like having my phone out during lunch, but

697
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: I had it out for an hour.

698
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: My wife, well, I wasn't.

699
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 5: I just was not expecting to get tickets. I just like,

700
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm not going, and then it was

701
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 5: like they were teasing me and they kept me, keep

702
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 5: me in. So I haven't looked actually for tomorrow night.

703
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know.

704
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 4: What, what's that task?

705
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: I can't believe how cheap they were in the end

706
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 3: for Game three standing room only. You know, maybe he's fine,

707
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: maybe well, maybe they were trying to pack that concourse,

708
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: get some more people in there. They were priced to

709
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: sell for sure.

710
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: And then my other question with this series moving forward,

711
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: and I'll start with you task is like, are there

712
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: first off, any look fingers crossed the MRI on Trey's

713
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: ankle is like, not serious, he tweaked it. It's hopefully

714
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: that geez, because if he is out the series as

715
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: a rap, I don't think I'm saying anything like far

716
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: fetched there, but let's hope he plays in game four

717
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: whether or not. We're there down at the fortress or not.

718
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: Are there changes that the Hawks can do that you

719
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: see tasks? You know, outside of hitting more shots, which

720
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: is always the answer. Are there lineup changes, you know,

721
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: bringing somebody like maybe going away from Bugdanovic. I mean

722
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: he's not given you anything defensively and he can't hit

723
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: a shot, Like, what would you do? Or do they

724
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: just like stay the course and try and get back

725
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: in the series with obviously what would probably need another

726
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: big Tray young performance.

727
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, the recipe was there for

728
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: them to win yesterday. Yeah, Janison and Chris Middleton went

729
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: nuts thirty plus points, but they did hold everybody else

730
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 3: down to a decent number. When all of a said

731
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: and done, they got to box out more of those

732
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: offensive rebounds from the guys in the corner. You know

733
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: where they're coming from. They're sprinting from the corner. Get

734
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: a body on them, and you know, Bogdanovic is trying

735
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: as much as he possibly can. I think so, I mean,

736
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: in a perfect world, they were all healthy throughout the

737
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: end of the season. Maybe Cam Reddish is your defensive stopper.

738
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: Maybe even you see some Chris Dunn minutes out there,

739
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: and maybe everybody is driving and they're moving the ball,

740
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: but I don't really see the lineup change happening. I

741
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: would go big more. I can't stand the Gallinari Collins

742
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: because Yan is just even if he isn't going in,

743
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: he's just so confident, you know, drawing two or three

744
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: guys in the middle, and then the offensive rebounds happened

745
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: because everybody's looking at Yannis. I want more Clint Clint,

746
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 3: but I mean it's all it's all there.

747
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: What about the risks?

748
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: There're shine for the rook on your honesty, you give

749
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: it a you know, he gave you great nine ten

750
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: minutes in game three. Do you try and up that

751
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: a little bit and maybe get him up to fifteen

752
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: sixteen with him playing.

753
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: I think one of Clint or him have to be

754
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 3: on the floor at all times. For me, I don't

755
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: like the praying with JC and Danilo. I sure don't.

756
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: I can't.

757
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: I can't stand and listen. Yeah, we talked about Daniel Culinari.

758
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: The guy can score. Obviously he had eighteen on seven

759
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: or fourteen, but it's I don't know if that was

760
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: just a desperate move. Like we're not seeing Bogdanovic hit shots.

761
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: We're not seeing Hurder hit shots and let's just go

762
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: to Gallo. But it does slow down everything. It just

763
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: the ball starts.

764
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: But I don't really have any other options.

765
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: Is the problem, because right now Bogdanovic is playing Kirk

766
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: Heinrich basketball out there. He just wants to stay on

767
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: the perimeter. If there's an open three pointer, I'm gonna

768
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: take it. He's not going to be driving in the

769
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: lane and creating for anybody need a little bit of

770
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: Game seven, Kevin. I feel like Herder's got to really

771
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: show up the perimeter. He scored thirty two points in

772
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: this series so far. They need more from him if

773
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna be in the starting lineup, because then if

774
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: he's hitting, maybe you can be okay with sitting bogdanovitch

775
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: down and getting Solomon Hill out there to at least

776
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: play defense, give you a little size or something like that.

777
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: But at this point we're discussing whether the Hawks should

778
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: go to Solomon Hill or an injured Bogdanovic or an

779
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: old man Denilo Gallinari. It just feels a little bit

780
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: like the lack of firepower is adding up for the Hawks.

781
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: I would have liked to see Capella too. I was

782
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: shocked to get in the elevator last night. Going back

783
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 2: to my car, another Hawks fan in me said, where

784
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: was Capella in that fourth quarter? Did not expect to

785
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: have a Clint Capella conversation on the capelevator, but I

786
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: was feeling the same way. He's at least big, and

787
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: the Hawks just look tiny out there when Collins is

788
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: the only big guy compared to if it's Brook Lopez

789
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: out there, or if it's Giannis out there, Like Lopez

790
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: looks like he's two times wider than anybody else that's

791
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: out there on the Hawks.

792
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 4: They just need a.

793
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: Little bit of something to give him some toughness on

794
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: the inside. But I'm hoping we go uh for Game

795
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: four down there on Tuesday, because I did get one

796
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: video of the countdown last night.

797
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: Take a look. It is a quick count.

798
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: It's a quick count, and I saw I think you

799
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: can see Lee ellis there getting full body into his countdown.

800
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: We had a guy walk up to Lee tap him

801
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: on the shoulder. Hey buddy, Oh sorry, wrong, guy mistook

802
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: your hair for someone else's. Somebody thought they recognized Lee's

803
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: long flowing locks as a friend for the straight up

804
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: tap in between us. I was a bold move by

805
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 2: that guy.

806
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 5: What a fun nut it was.

807
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: On Cloud nine. Man, I love to see it. Man,

808
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: basketball and it's a great sport, isn't it. All Right,

809
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: let's take a break. We gotta talk about the other series,

810
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: the West Finals, as we head into another game in

811
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 1: that series tonight. We got some Blazer's news with their

812
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: coaching hiring. But we'll take quick break, Ley, what do

813
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: you got back with no dunks? Let's go to Saturday night.

814
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: Suns outlast the Clippers eighty four to eighty. Good take

815
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: the three to one lead in the West Finals. It

816
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: sure wasn't pretty at times, but TK, what's your big

817
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: takeaway here from the Sun's one game away from the NBA.

818
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: Finals eighty four to eighty What was scoring game in

819
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: the NBA this season? Low scores means a lot of

820
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 2: miss shots. A lot of miss shots means a lot

821
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: of roast beef. Jd roll that beautiful beef footage.

822
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: DeAndre Ayton had twenty two rebounds. That's a lot of

823
00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 4: roast beef. Hey, DeAndre, that's an a warn no dunks.

824
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: We love roast beef, which is rebounds.

825
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

826
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: First beef of the year for DeAndre Ayden. Love to

827
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: see it for a few reasons. Number one, I picked

828
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: him as a potential beef for early in the season.

829
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: Nice to see him finally come through in the playoffs.

830
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: More importantly, however, this is the best storytelling beef of

831
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: the season. Really growing in my filmmaking because this beef,

832
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: I feel like, actually tells you a lot about this game.

833
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: For instance, you saw a ton of offensive rebounds for

834
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: eighton he finished with nine in this game. That is

835
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 2: huge in a game that had one hundred and sixty

836
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: four points. The Suns won the second chance battle in

837
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: game four thirteen to evan instrumental in the victory. And

838
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 2: you also saw a lot of Paul George misses. Paul

839
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: George went. Paul George went five of twenty in game four,

840
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: finished with twenty three points. He ended up on a

841
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: Sports Center graphic with Bob Coosey. Apparently Paul George has

842
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: the third most playoff games all time, shooting twenty five

843
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: percent or worse, coming in after Bob Coozy and Tommy Heinzen.

844
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: Tough to be on a graphics with the guys who

845
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: invented jump shots, yikes, But Paul George shot eighteen free throws.

846
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 4: That's nice. Everybody was missing.

847
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't necessarily Paul George not being able to shoot

848
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: that cost the Clippers the game. They just don't have

849
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: the margin for error for Paul George to go out

850
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: there and shoot five of twenty. It was an ugly game,

851
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: but the Sons should honestly win these ugly games. They've

852
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: got the better big guy out there, they've got a

853
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: slightly better defense, and they've got a healthier team. So

854
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: eight and I thought was huge for the Suns in

855
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: this one. He played well. Paul George did not play well,

856
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: and it kind of came down to that when there's

857
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 2: so far points scored.

858
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It's one of these things like I

859
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: watched it live on Saturday night, but like when we

860
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: get to Monday, it feels so long ago that I'm

861
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: like I need a little refresher, Like what the hell

862
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: happened in that game? So you fire up those like

863
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: seven to ten minute like highlight recaps, lee or you

864
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: know the videos I'm talking about. And I watched it

865
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: again this morning and it was like, oh my god,

866
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: I forgot sort of how bad this game was. Like

867
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 1: the highlights, the package, the seven minute video like ended

868
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: with like the free throw stuff, you know, like cousins

869
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: like totally botching the mystery throw, but Paul George is

870
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: sort of successfully doing it though they didn't get the

871
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: ball all this I was like, oh my god, I

872
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: forgot how bad this game was. But what were your

873
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: takeaway from the the yucky eighty four eighty win? But

874
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: who cares for Suns fans?

875
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't matter.

876
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 5: The Clippers have outscored Phoenix in this series by three points. Yeah,

877
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 5: they lost game one by what six points? They lost

878
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 5: this one by four, and they lost the other one

879
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: by a point, and they won by fourteen when they

880
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 5: did win. So it just shows you how close this

881
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 5: series actually is, even though the Sun's probably ended tonight.

882
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: Back in Phoenix, I think the Ups probably let go

883
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 5: of the rope a little bit because they've been so

884
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 5: close and there's only so many times you can sort

885
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: of keep on fighting and get a different result. And look,

886
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 5: I think there's also a factor that they've played seventeen

887
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 5: games in thirty six nights. I think that does come

888
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: into play a little bit. They look heavy and Paul

889
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 5: George missing a lot of those shots were short on

890
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 5: the front of the rim, and to me, that is

891
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: an indication that he just doesn't quite have the energy

892
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 5: because he hasn't really had a chance to rest. And

893
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 5: you know the Clippers, they keep on battling, they keep

894
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 5: on sort of getting close, but they just can't close

895
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 5: out a game other than the one victory they had

896
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 5: there in Game three. So this is tough, but it

897
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 5: is great to see Chris Paul on the verge of

898
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 5: make the finals. I think, you know, whether you love

899
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: him or hate him, I think a lot of people

900
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 5: respect the fact that he's one of the greatest point

901
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 5: guards we've ever seen, and he's been cursed in the

902
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 5: playoffs and he looks like now he's going to get

903
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 5: a chance to finally go to the finals. It's funny

904
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: to see it on the Phoenix Suns. That's not the

905
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 5: first team you associate with Chris Paul, but I'll be

906
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 5: very happy for him if he does make it. And

907
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 5: you know DeAndre at and going back to him, I

908
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 5: think he's probably overall been Phoenix's best player series. I mean,

909
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 5: it's funny when Devin book has been good, but I

910
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 5: think DeAndre Ayton actually at both ends of the floor,

911
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 5: has had probably a bigger impact. He's been really good,

912
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 5: and a part of that is the fact that the

913
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 5: Clippers don't really have a great body who they can

914
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 5: go out there and challenging with because he's long and

915
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 5: he's athletic, and you know, Zoobatz has given everything he's got,

916
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 5: but Ayton is just better and he's really grown so

917
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 5: much in these playoffs. So where things are for Phoenix

918
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 5: right now? And Chris Paul didn't want to talk three

919
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 5: to one with Rachel Nichols. He shot that down straight

920
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 5: away after the game because he knows it's not over

921
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 5: until it's over. But they get a great chance tonight

922
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 5: to end the series, get some rest, and they have

923
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 5: potentially about ten games before opening the finals at home,

924
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 5: no matter who their opponent is. And I think that's

925
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 5: I think that's good. An it's a long time, though,

926
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 5: to be off so one time. Yeah, I mean, I

927
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 5: think that it's one of those things. Once he's probably like,

928
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 5: wouldn't mind a couple more games, But of course that's.

929
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: So similar to the break they had between these last

930
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: two series.

931
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think again, I think for

932
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 5: some of like Chris Paul is good to get him

933
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 5: a little bit extra rest. But when you're playing well,

934
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 5: you want to keep on playing. You don't want too

935
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 5: much time to lose that sort of rhythm that you're in.

936
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 5: But anyway, not a great game to watch. You sort

937
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: of felt like it would have been nice if the

938
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 5: Clippers could have wanted to keep them alive, But it

939
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 5: just feels now they've got to obviously win out from here,

940
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 5: and I just think they're gonna let go of the rope.

941
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 5: I think tonight could get ugly in Phoenix. I think

942
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 5: it's going to be a pretty much a blowout.

943
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: Oh you sense like a little avalanche there? Yeah, they

944
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: hit a couple of shots. Really, I could see that

945
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: happening too. But Tas, what do you think of this

946
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: one on Saturday Night? Any think that too?

947
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: I think we've been spoiled with incredible basketball basically throughout

948
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: the entire postseason, and then you get a stinker like

949
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 3: this that usually happens a little bit more often. I'd say, yeah, really,

950
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: really a bad shooting game. It was just wild to

951
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 3: see these two teams just clank, clank, clank in the

952
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: fourth quarter there. I went to bed at halftime, and

953
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 3: I had had a few too many drinks.

954
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: I think my baby.

955
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: Girl's birthday on Saturday, so I had a few and

956
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: I was ready to go to bed, but because I

957
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: had those drinks in my system, I woke up at

958
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: about four thirty and was not going back to bed,

959
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: so I watched the second half in bed, and I

960
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: watched all right.

961
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's almost like just a depressing visual.

962
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why four thirty in the morning watching

963
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: this game in particular.

964
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I.

965
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: Get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.

966
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 4: But it's pretty cool. It just pick up your phone.

967
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 4: He could watch a whole second half.

968
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: Hide the box score. I had no idea it is

969
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 3: box Yeah, it's the high box score option is on.

970
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 4: I had no idea.

971
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: Who's winning this game, no idea. Stay away from the

972
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: wats app groups, stay away from everything else. And second

973
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 3: half I was just clank. But it is so so strange.

974
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 3: You mentioned Paul George having it off night. Reggie Jackson

975
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 3: was just not himself. I mean, we've been obviously overwhelmed

976
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 3: with how good he's been through the first three games,

977
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: shooting over fifty percent in the whole Utah Jazz series

978
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: series before shooting over fifty percent, So when he has

979
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: an eight of twenty four night when he just picks

980
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: up the ball and raises up in hit shots. That

981
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: was really the difference for me. I mean, yeah, you

982
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: can get away with Paul George being like that if

983
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: you have this crazy hot Reggie. We've had it and

984
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: that didn't work. But yeah, DeAndre Ayton, man, that was

985
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 3: number one pick stuff in that first half, especially showing

986
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 3: the touch. He had that alley oop where he kind

987
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: of pulled what Yannis pulled in Game two against the

988
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: Hawks with the euro step finger roll over clincappella, but

989
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: it was an alley oop and he finger rolled it

990
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 3: in the touch from a seven foot I mean, that's

991
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: that's gorgeous stuff, man, he is. Yeah, he's showing the

992
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 3: offensive skill set and Chris Paul post games and we're

993
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: gonna get DeAndre eight in that bag this postseason. Yeah,

994
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: they're obviously on the same page. And it really has

995
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: been a super close series. Although yeah, I do agree

996
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: it's probably gonna end in five because, yeah, you just

997
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: had that DeAndre Ayton dunk on your head in Game two.

998
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: It's hard to come back from and they did. They

999
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: fought back, but they kind of had to get both

1000
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: at home. I think, so that's that's the tough one.

1001
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: They lose this one, and man, it's been an entertaining series.

1002
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 3: I'd watch all five of these games in my bed

1003
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: if I could go.

1004
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: Back, I'd watch all five of these. It was tough.

1005
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough ending there, tough tough ending there for the

1006
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: Clippers who have fought back. And obviously Kauhi still up

1007
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: in the bleachers. And you know when when Steve Bombers

1008
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 3: got his head down in his hands, you know things

1009
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: are bad when Paul George gets that free throw and

1010
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 3: he's just, yeah, the guy who's always mister positive, things

1011
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: are bad right now.

1012
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Mike Breen with one of the most legendary calls

1013
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: in postseason history, though, when the Clippers cut it to

1014
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: six in the third quarter, and you know, Staple Center

1015
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: was going crazy, they were going nuts. But then they

1016
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: showed Kawhi just sitting there, stone cold. Kawhi Leonard going crazy,

1017
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: dumps Breen. So good, hilarious line. But yeah, Lee, I

1018
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: thought you were for sure going to drop practice your

1019
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: free throws kids, or that's why you do it, or

1020
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: also you need to practice missing your free throws intentionally too,

1021
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: because of the ending of that game, because yeah, Paul

1022
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: George was that big one, like Tass said, but then

1023
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: he did the later on because there was a lot

1024
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: of free throws at the end. Yeah, and there was

1025
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: interestingly not a video review of a potential like could

1026
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: have been a game changing overturn of like who the

1027
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: ball went out of bound? I think it was, but

1028
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: toom that knocked it out. And then they're saying, well, hey,

1029
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: what happened to the other one we did with Booker

1030
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: and Beverly. We looked at it and we did the

1031
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: super slow mode and then oh it went off on him.

1032
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: They just didn't even do it this time. I think

1033
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Zach Sarba was like, no, we're not doing that again, No, no, no,

1034
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: just play on anyway, But what do you think about

1035
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: the free throws yet? And then Cousins like, I don't

1036
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: know what the hell he was doing. I guess he

1037
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: was just trying to replicate what Paul Georgia done, or

1038
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: you bang it off the rim, but he wasn't even close,

1039
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: like it was ten feet.

1040
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: Over it looked like.

1041
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 5: But look, I can never endorse a practice missing free throws.

1042
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 5: I just can't.

1043
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: Should shure, Yeah, we've talked to Brent Barry about this.

1044
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 5: Game when you get when you get to the NBA,

1045
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 5: then yes you're fine, But I can't say it keeps practice,

1046
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 5: missing your free throats, get out there and just knock

1047
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 5: him in. Okay, Yeah, it's I mean, look, an ugly

1048
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 5: game with an ugly ending. It kind of was like fitting. Really,

1049
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 5: it was like, oh god, this is even uglier than

1050
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 5: we sort of it couldn't have gotten uglier, but it did. So, yeah,

1051
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 5: Boogie missed it by a mile, and there was one

1052
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 5: where he he didn't seem to understand that has to

1053
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 5: at least hit the rim, like it can't just hit

1054
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 5: the backboard.

1055
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: So he knows that he just signed.

1056
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, I think, but that I

1057
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 5: think in a game like that, everyone's kind of like

1058
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 5: you start questioning yourself, like.

1059
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 4: Oh maybe I don't know. Let's just end this game

1060
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 4: if you do it with enough confidence.

1061
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes try to trick everyone else to believe no, no,

1062
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 5: that's the rule.

1063
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's the thing.

1064
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 5: But you know this series of course, with the DeAndre

1065
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 5: eight and tip in to win game two, you know

1066
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 5: that was a rule that everyone was like, oh, I

1067
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 5: didn't think he was allowed to do that, but he was.

1068
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 5: So we're learning new things about this game or this,

1069
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 5: you know, during this series. So yeah, just just one

1070
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 5: of those games where you like going to end itt Man,

1071
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 5: get rid of it is done. This is not pretty,

1072
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 5: not rewatching this.

1073
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 4: No, no, Trey.

1074
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: I know the other guys feel like it's going to

1075
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: end tonight in Phoenix. Do you feel the same way

1076
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: or or do the Clippers have a little fight left

1077
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: in them? They do surprise us from time to time.

1078
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 2: Clippers have been their best when the cards are down.

1079
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: So I'm not with Lee and thinking that this is

1080
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: going to be a blowout, but I will be taking

1081
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: the Suns to end things tonight. Are they going to

1082
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: be wearing their black jerseys? I feel like they've worn

1083
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 2: black jerseys at home for almost every game this postseason.

1084
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: Going to be very weird if the iconic jersey we

1085
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: remember Chris paulin is a gradient the Valley jersey, but

1086
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: it could be when they're playing at home with the

1087
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: with the gradient court, it's lit, buddy, It's loud in Phoenix,

1088
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: so they definitely got a home court advantage. Chris Paul's

1089
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: looking healthier and healthier, So yeah, I'm going with Phoenix tonight.

1090
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Clippers, it feels like they're gonna have to

1091
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: withstand that at some point early in this game. I

1092
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: assume there will be a Sun's run and the Clippers

1093
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: just have to somehow like stick around just enough, you know,

1094
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: keep the crowd just that bay enough and whatever, keep

1095
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: it to ten eight six, like just don't get behind

1096
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: too much or I think it will get out of control.

1097
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 4: But we will see.

1098
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: That's the night. We'll talk about it on tomorrow's show.

1099
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: I didn't realize you rightly that there could be a

1100
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: ten day break for them, though. If they wrap it

1101
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: up Phoenix, that's going to be a lot of Chris

1102
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: Paul think pieces and uh good.

1103
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 5: For Devin books nose probably though in that sense that's true.

1104
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 4: Well, he did give this one.

1105
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: That's one little story from this. It didn't really didn't

1106
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: help them all that much. If we're being honest. Nobody

1107
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: could shoot. It was contagious out there. Nobody could actually

1108
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: hit a basket.

1109
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 4: All right. Well, we had some more.

1110
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: Coaching news over the weekend, guys, and there's there's actually

1111
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: a lot to unpack with this one. So the Blazers

1112
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: have hired Chauncey Billups as their next head coach, the

1113
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: team reaching an agreement on a five year deal with

1114
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: the Clippers assistant that includes a team option on the

1115
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: last season. Before making a formal offer, the Blazers continued

1116
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: investigating a nineteen ninety seven rape allegation against Billups. Now

1117
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 1: no criminal charges were brought, but Billups settled a civil

1118
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: lawsuit filed by the woman. I'm actually embarrassed. I don't

1119
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: know about you guys to say I didn't even I

1120
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: don't know if I didn't know this or I sure

1121
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: didn't remember this Billups incident from back in ninety seven.

1122
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm alone on that. But of course,

1123
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: the Blazers ultimately found nothing that they believe disqualified Billups

1124
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: from becoming the franchise's next head coach. Here, but there's

1125
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: been some backlash tasks, and according to Chris Haynes of

1126
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: Yahoo Sports, that backlash from this coaching search, plus concerns over,

1127
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, their ability to build a title contender, could

1128
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: this is from Haynes at Yahoo Sports, could be leading

1129
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: to Lillard being upset, disgruntled, and maybe even asking for

1130
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: a trade out of Portland. So again, there's a lot

1131
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: going on here, But what do you make of all

1132
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: this news with Billups as the head coach and then

1133
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: the sort of fallout here with Lillard.

1134
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, start with the loward part. I think it

1135
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 3: sucks that Damian Lillard had to come out and say

1136
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 3: something through Chris Haynes because obviously, yeah, Chris Hanes on, yeah,

1137
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: who wrote this, but it's obviously just directly from Damian

1138
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: Lillard's mouth. So what happened was Damian Lillard was asked

1139
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 3: on Twitter what coaches DA like that are being mentioned,

1140
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: and he said, I like Jason Kidd, I like Chauncey

1141
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 3: Billups essentially, and we want players to speak their minds.

1142
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 3: And so, you know, people ridiculed him and got very

1143
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: angry at him that Chauncey Billups had this rape allegation

1144
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: in his past, and Damian Lillard felt the need to

1145
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: say something because of all the ridicule he had took.

1146
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: But I hate it for Damian Lillard. I mean, I'm

1147
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 3: sure he's sitting back there thinking all this that I

1148
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 3: gave to this city, to this franchise, and it feels

1149
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: like he's being canceled. But no one is canceling Damian Lillard.

1150
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: But it sure feels that way. I mean, I'm sure

1151
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: everybody on Twitter coming at him made him feel like

1152
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 3: he wasn't appreciated. So I think that's on the unfortunate

1153
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: part because at the same time, we want NBA players

1154
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 3: to bypass the media and to be able to say

1155
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 3: what they want. And really, he was just backing a

1156
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: guy that he knows in the league, that's a champion,

1157
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: that has put in his time as an assistant and

1158
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: you know, irregardless, he said he had no idea about

1159
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: the allegation in the late nineties and that's and that's that.

1160
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 3: But he felt the need to say, hey, I'm not

1161
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: really happy right now, so please print this Chris Haynes.

1162
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 3: I mean, that's not on the record that he said that,

1163
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 3: but it's on the record that he said that. He

1164
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: came out and used Chris Haynes as a conduit to

1165
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 3: talk to everybody. But we don't want the conduit. We

1166
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: want him to be able to say that. So I

1167
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: hate it because Damian Lillard just has been incredibly loyal

1168
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: And the issue isn't Chauncy Phillips or Terry Stotts or whoever.

1169
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 3: I mean, really, the issue is the the on court product.

1170
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 3: And what the front office is giving Chauncey Phillips or

1171
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: Terry Stotts or whoever. That's the issue. The issue is

1172
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 3: really the guys he's going to have around him, and

1173
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard is going to be a leader regardless of

1174
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 3: who's those people are around him. And I hope it

1175
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 3: stays in Portland. I hope it happens in Portland because

1176
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 3: this is the guy that we said and he has said,

1177
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 3: is going to follow the likes of Dirk and Tim

1178
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: Duncan or Reggie Miller or whoever, all the guys that

1179
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 3: have stayed with one franchise. That would be shitty if

1180
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard left Portland. I don't think he is, But

1181
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: to even feel the need to put it out there,

1182
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: it's just kind of It's just a crappy situation. I

1183
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 3: just I don't know why. You know, Dame is Dame

1184
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: and he said what he said as he said on

1185
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 3: Twitter's Look I listen. I like Chauncey Billips. I said

1186
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: that I didn't think he really needed to come out

1187
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 3: with Chris Haynes unless he really feels like, you know,

1188
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 3: the whether it's the construction of the group or just

1189
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: being ridiculed. Is bothering him that much that he may leave?

1190
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 3: I would have hoped he didn't feel that need. But

1191
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: I think him and Chauncey Bilps will probably get along,

1192
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 3: and hopefully he's got a better defensive lineup around him.

1193
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 3: That's really what matters. But I just don't see Dame

1194
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 3: leaving in his mid thirties. I just you know, he's

1195
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: into his early thirties now. I hope this is a

1196
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: one franchise.

1197
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: Guy, Trey, what do you think of all this?

1198
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: I think this is bad for Blazers fans, and I

1199
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: really think it's really it's really bad for Blazers fans

1200
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: to start with. It feels like fifty percent of their

1201
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: fan base is being alienated basically right away by hiring

1202
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups. You can read a play a piece on

1203
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 2: Blazer's Edge that's really good to walk to read five

1204
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: women speaking about the higher and their thoughts after being

1205
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 2: Blazers fans for years and years. It started off this

1206
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: offseason with a tough loss to the Nuggets. Felt like

1207
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: the team was hanging by a thread. There was the

1208
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: dramatic coaching search that started with Jason Kidd. The fans

1209
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: basically came out and said, don't hire this guy. He

1210
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: has domestic abuse again allegations. Now Chauncey Billups has been

1211
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 2: hired despite credible assault allegations and settling out of court.

1212
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 4: Lillard, it almost feels.

1213
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 2: Like he was looking for an out to say that

1214
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: fans are being mean to me online because I backed

1215
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd and Chauncey Billups despite not knowing their pass.

1216
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I understand how he doesn't know their past.

1217
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's something that's brought up very often,

1218
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: certainly with Chauncey Billups, more so with Jason Kidd. But

1219
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 2: it was gonna be a tough summer for Blazers fans

1220
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: with the team possibly falling apart on the court. They

1221
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: have now made their off court situation way worse for

1222
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 2: a lot of their fans, and especially for their female fans,

1223
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: and now that higher may possibly affect.

1224
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 4: The on court product as well.

1225
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: So I don't know, it's been a bad June for Portland.

1226
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: Leah. Anything to add to this really.

1227
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 5: Just going to echo those same comments. It's bad for

1228
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 5: the franchise, and it's not something that's just going to

1229
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 5: be kind of ignored or brushed under the carpet. I

1230
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 5: don't think, because you know, it's certainly a a murky

1231
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 5: issue given the past. But I'm like Usky's. I actually

1232
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 5: didn't know anything about Chauncey Phillips, and he's been at

1233
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 5: ESPN and he's been working for the Clippers. You know,

1234
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 5: he was, as far as I knew until pretty much

1235
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 5: this weekend, a highly regarded player with a good reputation.

1236
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 5: So I wasn't aware of what had happened back in

1237
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety seven. But that certainly doesn't mean you dismiss it.

1238
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 5: I mean, the fact that you're settling out of court

1239
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 5: is an acknowledgment that something happened, and you know, none

1240
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 5: of us really know exactly what that was. So Portland

1241
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 5: have I think, you know, from a public public relations position,

1242
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 5: really made the franchise look bad right now, and they

1243
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 5: you know, it's not something that you can just quickly correct.

1244
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 5: I think I think you have to address the issue

1245
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 5: and discuss it and talk about that process. If they

1246
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 5: said they couldn't find anything that disqualified and well, they

1247
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 5: really should say what it was that they did then,

1248
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 5: because if you know, this isn't disqualifying for Chauncey Phillips

1249
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 5: and what is so? And then you've got your your

1250
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 5: franchise player, you know, one of the most famous and

1251
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 5: popular players in the franchise history. He's now in a

1252
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 5: very uncomfortable spot. And if they were to lose Lilid

1253
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 5: as well because of this, then that's a terrible decision

1254
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 5: for the for the Blazers to hire Chauncey Billups. So

1255
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 5: we'll see what happens in the next few days and weeks.

1256
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: Here, Sam Ammick reported that D'Antoni was if you did

1257
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: the pecking order, it sounded like Billups was at the top,

1258
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: then it was then it was Mike D'Antoni, and then

1259
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: possibly Spurs assistant Becky Hammond, who at other times over

1260
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: the last couple days felt like was maybe at the

1261
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: top of that leader board. So maybe that makes us

1262
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: even weirder. I guess Blazer's chairman Jody Allen, she was

1263
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: apparently very interested in making history there by hiring Hammond,

1264
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: and now they end up going with Billups and his

1265
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: checker past, of course, which was a Legit shocked to me.

1266
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't even know about this, and

1267
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm like an NBA Siico it's a long time ago,

1268
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: it's ninety seven, but still crazy stuff. So let's hear

1269
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: from you guys in the stream team both the MAVs

1270
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: going with Kid, Blazer's going with Billups and there are

1271
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: still some open options. And Sean's saying, I guess Penny Hardaway,

1272
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: who coaches at Memphis, the Memphis Tiger's there in college

1273
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: possibility to go back to Orlando and be their head coach.

1274
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: So we'll keep our eye on that. We've got a

1275
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: few openings still in New Orleans, in Orlando, and what

1276
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: am I forgetting? There are a couple more? Where is

1277
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: that it now? With those two? No, there's one more,

1278
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: and I'm definitely drawing a blank on it. Celtics got

1279
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: their guy. Those other two I just said, got theirs.

1280
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle's back in Indiana.

1281
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: The Pelicans.

1282
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: Washington, Thank you, Washington. I know there was one more.

1283
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, Trey, thank you, thank you. All Right, Well,

1284
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: let's get to tweet of the night.

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Speaker 3: Treed out the night.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I have a tweet from the weekend that's

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Speaker 1: really fun. It's a great question. But actually this morning

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Speaker 1: during this show, you guys are quick and we love it.

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Speaker 1: We're sort of keeping our eye on Twitter sometimes. Peed

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Speaker 1: lurd Mister tweeted, counsel, the judge is ready for your

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Speaker 1: closing arguments and if you're listening, a fantastic photoshop of

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Speaker 1: le Elis in core getting ready to make his case.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff there, Leah. I would wear that on a

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Speaker 1: T shirt if I'm being honest.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is quick man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look sort of cool with the Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: like it. I like that licking your hair. Maybe diet

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Speaker 1: a little bit gray.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's good.

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Speaker 1: That was coming in during the show here. But this

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Speaker 1: is better again a fun question. It's from at j

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Speaker 1: Rodman over the weekend here and maybe even back as

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Speaker 1: far as Friday, I can't remember, but what's your favorite

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Speaker 1: current day player nickname? And we got a funny meme here.

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00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's showing off like these amazing NBA nicknames

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Speaker 1: in the past, this, uh, this, jacked Doug, this dog

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Speaker 1: nicknames like the Iceman, the Admiral, the Human Highlight Film

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Speaker 1: those are great, great nicknames. And then NBA nicknames now

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Speaker 1: KG KD A D I mean just so sock. So

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Speaker 1: I just love the question. I wanted to throw it

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Speaker 1: at you guys and everybody in the stream, team and

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Speaker 1: everybody listening and jump into YouTube comments. What's your favorite

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Speaker 1: current day player nickname tasks? Do you have one that

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Speaker 1: you're like that's good that belongs with the Human Highlight

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Speaker 1: Film and the Admiral and the such.

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Speaker 3: I love the point about the initials and how we've

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Speaker 3: we've become lazy. I think it's just that we want

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Speaker 3: to name a guy or give a guy nickname like

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Speaker 3: right away. We don't just let it happen. You have

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Speaker 3: a baby, look at that baby for a few weeks,

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Speaker 3: a month, two months, and you'll decide, Oh, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: baby is the Beard. I'm gonna go with that. I

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Speaker 3: like the Beard because I think decades and decades of

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Speaker 3: men playing basketball, there's never been a beard, not one beard,

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Speaker 3: until this man comes into the league and two thousand

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Speaker 3: and nine and becomes he was a fresh faced kid,

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Speaker 3: but then became the Beard. And it's it's uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: fitting obviously, and it's just it's unprecedented in NBA history,

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Speaker 3: the fact that he's coming and done that. So I'm

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Speaker 3: good with it. And yeah, it's like, you know, he

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Speaker 3: could be a mean beard. You know, he could be

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Speaker 3: the the good guy, be the evil versus good. There's

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Speaker 3: lots of ways to go with it. So yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think I think that one is. Yeah, it's made me

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Speaker 3: proud as a basketball fan. Not just to name the

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Speaker 3: guy j.

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Speaker 4: H That sounds bad.

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Speaker 1: Beard is much better. I just want to know, will

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Speaker 1: he well James Beard?

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Speaker 4: James beard Beard?

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Speaker 1: That's even better. Will James Harden have a beard for

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Speaker 1: the rest of his life? Will we ever see James

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Speaker 1: Harden without a beard again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, mark me down, mark me down. For

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Speaker 2: some time in his life, James Harden will have a

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Speaker 2: clean shaven face.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sometime in his playing career. No way, I'll say yes, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'll take that bet. Why do we put it on that?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we'll bet Beard on that one. If we

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Speaker 2: both have beards with James Harden, how does how does

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Speaker 2: this work? If you are tires and I still have

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Speaker 2: my beard? I got a shave, but he if he

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Speaker 2: shaves at any point during his NBA career you have?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, that's okay, cool, Wow, I bet I

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Speaker 1: love it? Okay, But anyway, what's your favorite current day nickname?

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Speaker 4: Trey Ice Tray. I think it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: You know you even have the iceman on that doge

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Speaker 2: meme there, and I love that it's kind of a

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Speaker 2: fully formed persona for him as well. We haven't really

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Speaker 2: had a just straight up Ice in the NBA. He's

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Speaker 2: got the built in Shiver celebration, which is also super original,

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Speaker 2: got the local tie in with Amigos song, Ice Tray

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Speaker 2: the Gang.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Ice has been a cool nickname for thirty years. At

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Speaker 2: this point, we had two rappers who were popular Free

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Speaker 2: if you count Vanilla Ice incredible stuff, and now we've

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Speaker 2: got an Ice Tray playing back.

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Speaker 4: I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: And of course we got Jim Ice too as part

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Speaker 1: of the NBA family.

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Speaker 4: We do.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do have a badass shoot a badass tree

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Speaker 3: young Shoot love it.

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Speaker 1: I do like those? Yeah, if they were Ye?

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Speaker 4: Are those heavy?

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Speaker 1: I want to know if those are heavy? I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: they're not? Like to try those? Lee, What do you

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Speaker 1: got here? Favorite current day nickname? Is it Red Velvet?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm going with the Dunk. Why not?

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Speaker 4: I can't go with the don name.

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Speaker 5: I'm in sure it hasn't really taken off, but I

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Speaker 5: like it. I like the Dunk and I heard it.

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Speaker 5: I think it was Maria Taylor one time on ESPN said,

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Speaker 5: you know the Donk was like, okay, that's good enough.

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Speaker 5: It's matter to ESPN. But honestly, the Slim Reaper is

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Speaker 5: a great nickname. Kevin Durant, that is an awesome nick.

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Speaker 1: But he's never really embraced it.

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Speaker 4: I would say, he at I embraced it. Didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a long time ago. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: it feels about it.

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Speaker 2: Now, call me the servant, he said, Oh yeah, call

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Speaker 2: me the servant.

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Speaker 1: It didn't really also didn't catch on. No, No, people

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Speaker 1: are saying the claw for Kawhi. They like that.

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Speaker 5: One swipe of the fox is a good one too,

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Speaker 5: for the fox. That's his uh, that's his Twitter handle,

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Speaker 5: I think too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's rolling with it for sure. I'm not the

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Speaker 1: biggest fan. But then again, I don't even know the

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Speaker 1: cartoon or something like that.

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Speaker 5: That's Dora.

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Speaker 1: It's do that's Dora. Yeah, okay, you're a big fan

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Speaker 1: of Dora.

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Speaker 5: I mean we've had Dora. We've gone through a door

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Speaker 5: phase for sure.

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Speaker 1: Okay, she's gone, she's out.

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Speaker 5: Rotation right now.

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Speaker 4: Inspector gadgets back in. That's nice to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh maybe then Mikail Bridges has go go gadget

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Speaker 1: arms on his basketball reference page. I think or something

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 4: He's got to be an inspector gadget.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna He's got a million nick weird.

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Speaker 5: I was kind of that at the start as well,

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Speaker 5: wasn't he with the big long limbs in?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 1: You know what's a good one?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Slow Moo is a very good, great nickname.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and you know he feels I feel like he

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Speaker 1: has embraced that nickname. You you know, you couldn't say a

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Speaker 1: lot of people would do, maybe because it's like it's

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01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: sort of sounds almost negative. It's like you want to

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Speaker 1: be slow.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, oh god, he's earned that nickname.

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Speaker 1: Though, Yes he has. All Right, well, I'm glad I

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Speaker 1: brought that up. Let's hear from you guys. Continue to

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Speaker 1: drop your favorite current day nicknames and stream team and

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Speaker 1: leave him in the YouTube comments. And who knows, I

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Speaker 1: could see a top ten list being compiled for sure

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Speaker 1: with that one. I smell bonus coverage. Let's call it there,

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Speaker 1: fun fun show. Thanks everybody for joining us live. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow at ten am Eastern Live to break

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Speaker 1: down possibly the Sun's going to the finals or the

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01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: Clippers extending that series at least one more game. We'll

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Speaker 1: be breaking down that game and moving forward.

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Speaker 4: Get your questions in.

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Speaker 1: Gonna need some questions probably throughout the week, not just

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Speaker 1: beached up in, so email them in NBA questions and

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01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: non NBA questions too. No dunks at the Athletic dot

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Speaker 1: Com and go grab yourself an athletic subscription. Go to

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Speaker 1: the Athletic dot Com slash no dunks.

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Speaker 4: Clipper bros. You heard it here first, have a great time,

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01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 4: turn up. Love you guys awesome.

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01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and you guys are going to

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Speaker 3: help me do a quick three question survey I just

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01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:08,919
Speaker 3: received from the Atlanta Hawks about the game. All right,

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01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 3: so question one, based on your experience, how likely are

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Speaker 3: you to recommend attending a Hawks game to a friend

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01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 3: or colleague? One through ten?

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 4: Ten Extremely likely, extremely likely?

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01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 5: Do it?

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01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 3: How would you rate the performance of the Atlanta Hawks

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01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: team during the most recent game you attend. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: an interesting one.

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01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: They mean the actual basketball team were like the game.

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01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 3: Ops team performance of the Atlanta Hawks team, So take

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Speaker 3: what you will.

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Speaker 4: I think it sounds like the encore. I think it's

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like, Yeah, the performance of the.

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Speaker 2: Five guys on the floor, I'm going with a seven

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01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 2: bad fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'll go with the night. I'll go with the night.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 2: I wanted a seven and a half three quarter.

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Speaker 5: I would have gone with nine.

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Speaker 3: So we said seven, eight, nine, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Which of the following statements best explains why you tended

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Speaker 3: this game?

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Speaker 1: I got the.

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 4: Lunch, I'm a big man of a hot.

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01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 3: And went to the game to support the team. I

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01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: was supporting the opposing team. Oh, the Lakers and Knicks

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01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 3: fans there. I went with friends, family, colleagues for a

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Speaker 3: fun social activity. I attended for business purposes or none.

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Speaker 4: Of the above.

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Speaker 5: Well, there's a couple in it, really, I mean, in fact,

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Speaker 5: I would say all of the above.

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Speaker 1: Where's the option of just I just love basketball, man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 4: Click other?

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01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: Can you enter sickos?

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01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 3: All right?

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01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 4: Business purposes, embrace the name of people.

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Speaker 2: You could stay.

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01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 3: Every day, be happy every minute. It's been so long

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Speaker 3: of your fa.

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Speaker 1: Already it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 4: Mea