1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn sellof Sells, John Oceans, 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Brian Sexton. Jacks Drive starts right now. So I feel 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: good about the second run. We're gonna go on here 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: about just the efficiency. And now we've been in the 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: system for a while. Now we you know, excuse of 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: a new system, the excuse of a young quarterback, that's 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: all gone because the young quarterbacks claim pretty good. Here 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: we go in eleven game stretch to finish off the season. 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: Welcome in the Jaguars Drive time on a Wednesday at 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan, Brian Sexton, and John Osier here with you. 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: We are refreshed and recharged after the bye week. Sure, 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: let's go with that. Eleven games. At first, I was like, oh, 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: I loving games. You know that'll go pretty quick. And 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: then I think, oh I loving games. That's a lot 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: of games. Well, it depends on if this team finds 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: a way wins. I mean, if it's eleven losses, then 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: it's good to feel like last year. I don't think 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the case. But if this team continues 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: to play well as the coach alluded to and win 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: some of these games coming up, especially over the next 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: seven weeks, then it will fly by. They've made themselves interesting. 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't think they've made themselves yet into a team 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna win half their games going forward. But I 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: think initially you had a feeling coming out of the 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: bye that you're gonna be taking a deep breath and saying, boy, 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: this next six or seven are really tough. Maybe get one. 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: They have played well enough offensively to make you think, Okay, 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: let's see what they are. Let's see if they're as 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: good as they looked at times. Uh. I think the 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: jury's out, but it's gonna be interesting to watch. Interesting 31 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: is the right word. Russell Wilson's not playing on Sunday, 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: as everyone knows, which makes this game interesting. And I 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: think when you look at the Seahawks and their body 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: of work over the last ten years, you'd you'd say, 35 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: or you'd think that the Jaguars still would have trouble 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: because they've never played well in Seattle. But I'm really 37 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: interested in and I don't want to give it away, 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: but I almost picked him in the final analysis this week. 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean I was really closed already wrote final analysis 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: and it's Wednesday. Sound hard, look at this guy? Go? 41 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: I was close to but I I we'll see. If 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: you've got to read it, you gotta read it. That's 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: quite the tease. I'm suggesting that people read yours too. 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: But okay, sure enough. All right, let's get into big things. 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: Big thing one, it's clarity. This is the time of 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: year where contenders start separating themselves. And if you would 47 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: have said in the preseason, all right, it seems like 48 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, the Panthers, the Seahawks, the Dolphins, right, they're 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: probably gonna make the playoffs, well, not totally certain, and 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: these teams are really unsure of what they are right now. 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: The good thing about the Jaguars is you know what 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: you are. You have some clarity. You know you are 53 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: on a playoff team, you're building towards two, and you're 54 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: probably going to try to get some games and some 55 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: wins in the meantime. Don't have to make knee jerk 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: reactions because you know what you are. Big thing too 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: is Trevor Lawrence. In the next eleven games. It is 58 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: all about this guy. I love this picture. This just 59 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: he looks like the man. He is the man, especially 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: after that win in London. It was awesome to see 61 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: for him. It's all about his development, nothing else. There 62 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: will be some other storylines, but this is the biggest 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: and frankly the only storyline going for the rest of 64 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: the season. I think we all can agree right now, 65 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: he's on schedule. What will he look like at the 66 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: end of the season. Big thing three is defense. They 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: get a break with no Russell Wilson this week, like 68 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: we mentioned, but they still have to play at a 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: higher level if they are going to beat the Seahawks 70 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: in Seattle this week. Hey, coach urban Meyer discuss the 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: changes they have made during the bye week. I think 72 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: we went into the into the storm thinking that we're 73 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: going to be playing via very high percentage and man coverage, 74 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: and we've we we figured out quickly that we're gonna 75 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: have to mixing a lot of zone. And then that's 76 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: where you say, okay, the number of reps you have 77 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: to get a team ready to play that zone cover. 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: You can't say, okay, let's clay, but go play zone. 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: So that bye week was good. We spent some time 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: on that. The combination of both, that's the biggest thing 81 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: on defense. So I see this, I really like we're 82 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: headed in defense. But we knew to start seeing it 83 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: and then you have it. That is big things. And 84 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: that was head coach Urban Meyer explaining the changes they 85 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: have made during the bye week. They said there was 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: a large amount of self scouting going on in this building. 87 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: The players had Thursday through Sunday off, the coaches did not. 88 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: It was a big moment to look and see what 89 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: is going wrong? How do we fix it. He talked 90 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: about the defense and changing that also the self inflicted errors, 91 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: how many there were, and saying it really starts with practice. 92 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: If you fix those airs and practice, hopefully it translates 93 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: to the game. Let's go back to the top, uh 94 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: and talk about clarity. John I was sitting with some 95 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Chiefs fans on this Sunday and they're a great example 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: because they thought they had fixed their offensive line this 97 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: year and they thought that was the difference. And on Sunday, 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey played and Tyreek Kill played and they believed 99 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: that they were a playoff team. They just had to 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: kind of right the ship. And then the Titans did 101 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: what the Titans do. They pounded them. So in Kansas 102 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: City there you know, they're pulling their hair out. Same 103 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: thing in Seattle. There's a story this morning should they 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: start trading people away, Will Russell Wilson be back. You've 105 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: got a lot of franchises you mentioned, the Dolphins, the Redskins, 106 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, the Panthers, who at this moment of the season, 107 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: with eleven games to play for, many of them can't 108 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: quite put their finger on where they're at. How do 109 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: they go forward? What should they be doing? But for 110 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: this franchise, they know and they don't have to make 111 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: knee jerk reactions at trading deadline. They can just put 112 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: their head down and keep focusing on the most important part, 113 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: not any of the losing street because that's over, but 114 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: finding way to get better. Yeah, I've got a lot 115 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: of questions about should they trade this player or that 116 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: player at the trading deadline. I don't know what they'll 117 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: do there. I think the priority will remain making sure 118 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is protected. I think that's why you don't 119 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: automatically even though you're one in five. I don't think 120 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: you necessarily trade offensive linemen for draft equity. I don't 121 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: know if you're gonna get anyway, So I don't know 122 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be buyers or sellers. I think they'll 123 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: just be Okay, we're gonna go for order, what with 124 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: what we've got, and see what we are the second 125 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: half the season. Um, it's gonna be interesting to see 126 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: what they do defensively. How they changed to from a 127 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: man team to his own team. I think they figured 128 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: out they don't have the personnel to play man, and 129 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: I think that came as a little bit of a 130 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: surprise because they built this thing to play man. They 131 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: said that very clearly in the off season. So, uh, 132 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: how do they look going forward? Does that fix things? Ken? 133 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: Joe Colin call this you know Ravens defense, which is 134 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: a zone a blitzing team, man behind the defense. How's 135 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: that going to look? That's a huge storyline. Well, I 136 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: mean people know the zone blitz. It's not an uncommon defense. 137 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean back when you and I stood this defense, 138 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: I agree. But there's a model for you forward, and 139 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: there's if they look at their personnel. Let's put it 140 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: this way. All of these coaches on the defensive side, 141 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: those on the pro especially, they understand the principles of 142 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: zone blitz. To teach the zone blitz. Players have played 143 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: zone blitz, they can figure out how to play zone 144 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: behind it, and maybe that gets some different personnel on 145 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: the field, guys who are more ready to play zone. 146 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if Andre Cisco is a guy over the 147 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: next eleven weeks who takes a big step forward, and 148 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: we can talk about that, but it all comes down 149 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. It all comes down. And when we 150 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: last saw him, he was making progress. He looked like 151 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: he was in control, command and control. Um, we've been 152 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: saying it for a couple of weeks. Now this is 153 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: his team and he now has put it on his 154 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: shoulders and it will go as far as he can 155 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: carry it. They need some different things from different places, 156 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: but it's all about him. And if at the end 157 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: of December he is playing his best football of the year, 158 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: well I'm in this thing. The arrows pointed straight up 159 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: for this franchise. Yeah, we've always said it. It's not 160 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: about the record. Yeah, you get maybe a couple more games, 161 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: but if he is where you want him to be 162 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the season, to win for the season, 163 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: the ends period. And if anything has made this interesting 164 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: in late October and November, it's that he showed great 165 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: signs the last three games. He showed great decision making 166 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: and he showed that he can reduce the interceptions. Um, 167 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: he did it against a couple of defenses. There are 168 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: a few defenses Miami and Tennessee that weren't playing great 169 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: at the time. So I think it's it's really important 170 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: that these three games become six games, become nine games. 171 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: I have no reason to think they want. But that's 172 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: the huge storyline going forward, is all this talk that 173 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: we've talked about Trevor Lawrence in the last two weeks, 174 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: very excitedly and very yeah. Hey, he's developing rapidly. It 175 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: has to continue to develop, and that, to me is 176 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: the question of November. Well, in order for that to happen, 177 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: he needs guys to make plays. I mean, he needs 178 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: receivers in the absence of speed, he needs guys to 179 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: catch the ball not drop it. He needs guys to 180 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: get separation, guys like Dan Arnold to continue to make plays, 181 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: move the chains, keep that third down percentage growing in 182 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: the right direction so that he can stay on the field. 183 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: And he doesn't to play hero, right, you don't want 184 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: this guy having to throw the ball fifty times and 185 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: they come back. No doubt, at some point in his 186 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: career he'll be able to do it. But if you 187 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: bury yourself against a really good team, and there are 188 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: a lot of them in this next seven game stretch, 189 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: you can't expect him to keep progressing and pull you 190 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: up from behind. Not at this point, not with this roster. 191 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: Too much to ask you at this point in his career. 192 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: Totally agree, and that is big things. When we come 193 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: back on Jaguars Drive Time Summit, this are that here 194 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network, we're having a hard conversation, 195 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, so much of it. Who's going to be 196 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: healthier to rest here? And then also what does we 197 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: keep on offense? How do you build this surround your quarterback? 198 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: You know what exactly? Doesn't do we need? And I 199 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: think last March we had the conversation, well, number one 200 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: thing to remember Joe Burrow, Schottenheimer and Bebel. We just 201 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: had the conversation, you've got to get a good run game. 202 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: And right now we're starting to play a little bit. 203 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: You know, James is really playing well and our offensive 204 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: line is playing well. And the other thing our offense 205 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: line to this point, it has kept him upright. You know, 206 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: the thing we don't have is when DJ went down, 207 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: do we have that home run hitter on the outside. 208 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: You know, I think a labiscus playing very well. Marmot's 209 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: playing really well. We're you know, just one speedy short. 210 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: Maybe this tyran, maybe it's something else. Will the Jaguars 211 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: make a move? Trade deadline next Tuesday, November second, we'll 212 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: talk about that. Price dot com is the easiest way 213 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: to save money with comparison shopping cash back coupons all 214 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: in one. It's free. Try price dot com today, this 215 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: over that, this over that, past Jaguars drive time on 216 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: a Wednesday at this time for this or that, presented 217 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: by Price dot Com. Brian Sexton, Europe. All right, we'll 218 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: go with the trade deadline. John obviously didn't read the 219 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: script because he went off on a tangent about trading 220 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: in the first so you might not have much to say, 221 00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: trade for someone or trade someone. Um, they have off 222 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: picks currently to in the third, four in the sixth, 223 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: two in the seventh they've traded Sidney Jones, Joe Schobert, 224 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: C j Henderson, Gardner, Minshew and Josh Oliver. So I'm 225 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: not sure how many people there are to trade, but 226 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: you're certainly listening to the coach could make a case 227 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: for trading for someone John Well, he's talking about speed receiver. 228 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 1: I don't. I think they've tried that. I mean they've tried. 229 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: They tried to go get Tarron Johnson, they tried to 230 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: go get Tavon Austin. They tried to go get the kid, 231 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Devin Smith. I think it was who's now released Um 232 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: within trade for them they picked him up. Well, but 233 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: they pursued it. To what I'm saying is, do you 234 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: go and swing for the fences because it's not about 235 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: one in five. I don't swing for defences. I mean 236 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: I about a quarterback, about quarterback development. I assume that 237 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: if a guy I mean unless proven differently, I assume 238 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: that a guy who is available at the trade deadline 239 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: is able to trade dine trade deadline for a reason, 240 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: is he going to be a long term solution. I 241 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: doubt it. Uh, if there's a long term solution out there, 242 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: If if there's a big time Pro Bowl guy out there, 243 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: sure you tradeful. I don't anticipate that, Um, you're gonna 244 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: hold off because I know you're talking about it too. 245 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: But let me just throw a couple of names out there. 246 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: These are guys in their eight season twenty nine years old. 247 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: The first is Alan Robinson, who could be a long 248 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: term solution. He's got plenty of time. He costs you 249 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: about ten millions. Did not like that right at all. 250 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm fine with Allen Robinson as a concept. What are 251 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: you giving up for him? Are you giving up a third? 252 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: You've got an extra one? You have an extra one, 253 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: but you'd like that extra in the draft next year. 254 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: Um Well, listening to these people talk, meaning these people 255 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: mean Urban Meyer and the people were in this organization, 256 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: Allen Robinson is a very very good player. He ain't fast, 257 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: so I don't know that he fixes what they want fixed. Well, 258 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: what he is as an alpha, and I don't I 259 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: mean no disrespect intended to Morvin Jones Orliviscus, you know, 260 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: but Robinson is a better down field threat than they are, 261 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: and as a guy who goes and takes the bowl away. 262 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: So I really like that idea. I mean, you need 263 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: to have that with a quarterback like this who you're 264 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: trying to give him every tool you can to develop. 265 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: And you're gonna pay eleven million dollars of Robinson salary. 266 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: That's not an issue for this football team. It would 267 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: cost your third round pick I'm assuming this would be 268 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: a third round pick um the other guy, and it 269 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: probably doesn't happen. But Brandon Cooks is on the training 270 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: everyone is over there. You have to give up almost 271 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: nothing for him. He's speed. We saw what he did 272 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: in Week one against this football team, and it gives 273 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback more time to develop. I'm squarely in the 274 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: trade for someone if I can make something happen that 275 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: fits my salary structure and doesn't take away my one 276 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: or my two. Yeah, and it's all about the wide receiver. 277 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Marvin Jones right now is the leading target 278 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: on this team, but he was never meant to. He's 279 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: not a separation guy, right but he's doing a fine job. 280 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: But that's not your long term solution. He's doing it 281 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: right now, but I think a much better he would 282 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: be with a separation absolutely, and that's the hurt of 283 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: no DJH Park on the field, for sure. I like 284 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: the idea of Brandon Cooks. I like the idea of 285 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: Allen Robinson. I don't know that they do Allen Robinson 286 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: because the speed factor Brandon Cooke makes some sense. Uh. 287 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: Either Matthew Wright is the hero guy or he's the 288 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: guy who joined to twice off the up right, Um, 289 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: you can't be in the middle. Well, there is no 290 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: this or that or the middle this or that, so 291 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: I think he probably is in the middle. I guess 292 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: my point is, Uh, this is not a knock on 293 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: the move because I think they had to make the 294 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: move because Josh Lambo. You know, once Matthew Wright made 295 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: those kicks, it was clear he had to be the guy. Um. 296 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: It is now up to Matthew right over the next 297 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: month to prove that he's more than just the guy 298 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: who had two yard field goals. UM. Don't forget, he's 299 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: eight days removed from a really rough game. So it's 300 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: his opportunity. I don't it's necessarily a guarantee that he 301 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: is the guy going forward. This is his opportunity going forward. 302 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: I Um, I don't know. I wouldn't have and we 303 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: said this last week, I wouldn't have released Josh Golby 304 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: because I'm sorry. I always do that. I hear Josh 305 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: and I immediately revert to Scobie. I wouldn't have released 306 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: Josh Lambeau. Let me get that one right, because I 307 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: think he's got a stronger leg I think he's a 308 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: bigger guy. I mean, I think he's just I just 309 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: think he's got more to offer than right. So I 310 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: tend to lean even though he's the hero right now, 311 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: I tend to lean towards those misses, um and and 312 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: wonder because he's so slender, you know, a hundred and 313 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: seventy five pounds. Um, maybe he is. I don't know, 314 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: but I'm going to go with that and say I 315 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I mean right now, he's the guy, 316 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: and he has all the chances to prove it. So 317 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: we'll see. You need more consistency, that's for sure, all right. 318 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: My list sort that is about this defense, and I 319 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: can't remember what I said about it. Make the change 320 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: all the way or do not change. We heard coach 321 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: Meyer and big Things talk about how they are going 322 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: towards more of a zone defense. I will not lie 323 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: to you. This concerns me because I go back to 324 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: Week one with the defense in Houston. There was a 325 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: lot of confusion. There were substitution errors, there were penalties 326 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: for too many men on the field, and it just 327 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: looked like the confusion was absolutely there. And it got 328 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: better as time went on. But we already have changed 329 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: with Myles Jack and the green dot and the play 330 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: calling that has been changed since Myles Jack did not 331 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: make the trip to London, and that's going to stay 332 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: that way. So you're already changing so much. So if 333 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna change it, change it all the way and 334 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: don't change it again, or don't change it at all. 335 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: But there's already some miscommunication and this concerns me that 336 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: you're making all these changes during the bye week. Well, 337 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: they've got to get it right. The reality is h 338 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: NFL defenses, you can't just play man and you can't 339 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: just play zone. You have to have a mix or 340 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: else teams are going to figure you out. If you're 341 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: just playing man, they're gonna screen corners off the ball, 342 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna beat you. So you have to play a mix. Uh. 343 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: But they do need to settle on a philosophy. They 344 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: need to figure out what they're doing. Uh. You know again, 345 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: I said the top of show, I think they got 346 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: surprised here. I think they thought they could play press coverage, 347 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: man up, had that be the base defense. I'm not 348 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: sure you can do that period a hundred percent in 349 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh, it's been proven out that this personnel 350 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: right now can do it. Well, they started the season 351 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: thinking there was a chance that C. J. Henderson might 352 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: be available to them, and he wasn't. That seems like 353 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: the reason they changed that. Well, yes, I mean because 354 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: the rookie is just not quite there. Um and I 355 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: don't know that that that the press man fits Shack 356 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Griffin's best you know, I mean, he's the best one 357 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: they've got right now, but doesn't let them play that 358 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: really aggressive style of defense. Here's what I know. Uh, 359 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: You've got Bob Sutton here, and Bob is a long 360 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: time defensive coach in the NFL and some years in college. 361 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: My guess is is that they have leaned heavily on 362 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: Bob Sutton in his experience with Joe Colin, who has 363 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: a defensive line coach turned coordinator, has to rely on 364 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: Sutton to help with the coverage schemes because the guys 365 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: up front don't focus on the coverage. That's why Sutton's here. Okay, 366 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: this is why he's here. Then let's see how he 367 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: does it. I say, make the change, because you got it. 368 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: You've got to be better than they've been. You just 369 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: have to be. Uh, you know, you didn't have Davante 370 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: Parker or Preston Williams and two or three from more 371 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: than three yards right, So make the change if that's 372 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: what you believe. If that's what Bob Sutton believes that 373 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: the personnel department has brought him, is coverage guys who 374 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: are more suited to zone than make the change. A 375 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: major storyline here to watch Slan is Tyson Campbell. I'm 376 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: not saying this change was made for Tyson Campbell. Tyson 377 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: Campbell has had trouble in man with deep balls tracking 378 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: the ball once he turns around in zone, he should 379 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: be able to play more facing the ball, see the 380 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: ball come out of the quarterback's hands, not have to 381 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: worry about trying to track it, which he hasn't been 382 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: very good at yet. Zone. You know, again, I don't 383 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: think it's the entire reason. It will be interesting to 384 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: see if he is a better player looking at the 385 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: quarterback x percent of the time as opposed to not 386 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: looking at the quarterback and started the play. Uh to 387 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: hear storylines. I think he's the key to the secondary 388 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: right now. When you watch him on the practice field, 389 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: you see a big guy with long arms who moves well. Clearly, 390 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: Clearly he's been well coached by Patrick Shurtan and when 391 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: he was at the University of Georgia. They've got to 392 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: find a way to get him in a position to 393 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: take advantage of those skills. Like John, I'm anxious to 394 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: see whether him facing the quarterback more gives him a 395 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: chance to use his obvious physical gifts. Yeah, and Coach 396 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: Meyer mentioned that on Monday with the lack of turnover. 397 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: He said, with us facing the quarterback, now, we'll see 398 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: if that now comes. And it's kind of just a 399 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: ripple effect with all this going on. So that is 400 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: this or that presented by Price dot Com. When we 401 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: come back on Jaguars Drive Time, some hot takes here 402 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars didn't on network over thirty communities to 403 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: choose from with the best selection of moving ready homes, quality, value, personalization. 404 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: That's the dream Finders Homes difference, is it dream Finders 405 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: Homes dot Com. We're back Jaguars Drive Time. It is Wednesday, 406 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: and we are doing hot takes today because no show 407 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: on Monday. So, by what's you got dress? Say that 408 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are going to win twice in the next 409 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: seven games. And I looked at this stretch when the 410 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: season began just or at least at least at least 411 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: and I'm not going with could win. I'm going with 412 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: will win. Have a chance to watch the Niners is 413 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: probably you did on Sunday night against the Colts. I 414 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: watched the Seahawks and Falcons. I'm sorry, I watched the 415 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: Falcons and Dolphins, and then I watched the Seahawks. Uh, 416 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: and the Saints, and um, all of them are flawed. 417 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: All of them are having issues right now. And while 418 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that I would favor the Jaguars to 419 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: win any individual of those three games, they can win, 420 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: and I think they will win two of those three 421 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: games because two of them are at home, and you're 422 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: going to Seattle this week and read the history piece 423 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: that comes out tomorrow when Jaguars dot com. The Jaguars 424 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: have really never fared well in the Pacific Northwest, and 425 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: that is an understatement. Um. But the Seahawks, their defense 426 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: is thirty one. They're playing without Russell Wilson that you 427 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: know other than DK Metcalf, There's not anybody on their 428 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: offense that makes you go, oh, how are we going 429 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: to cover this guy? So, especially if you're playing zone concepts, 430 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: So I say the Jaguars will win two games, at 431 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: least two games of the next seven. It mine sort 432 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: of ties in with Brian And I'll tell you how 433 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't look. You might not think immediately when you 434 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: see it, that doesn't tie you with Brian, but it does. 435 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell maybe the most important storyline in the statement, 436 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: and it's sort of a repeat of what I said 437 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. That'st C. J. Henderson, 438 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: the cornerback opposite Sekio Griffin, who can tie down that defense. 439 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: If he plays well in this new concept, if he 440 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: can start tracking the ball, if he is not a 441 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: guy that teams automatically target successfully, then I think they 442 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: will win two games coming out of the boy. Uh. 443 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: If Gina Smith goes back there and doesn't have to 444 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: worry about looking over there and knows he can go 445 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: to whoever Tyson Campbell's covering, then they're not gonna win 446 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: two games out of by so uh. You hate to 447 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: put that much pressure on a rookie, but teams know him, 448 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: they've seen it on tape, so he is going to 449 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: be watched, He's going to be targeted. I think he's 450 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: the most important story because I think he's the key 451 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: to the defense now the Saints. The other night, after 452 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: DK Metcalf made that big play, the Saints got over 453 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: the top of him with the safety and I think 454 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: he was only targeted three more times the whole game 455 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: and only caught one more twelve yard passed. So I 456 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: anticipate they're going to give Tyson Campbell a lot of 457 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: help if that's the matchup they try to get. Yes, 458 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: totally agree. It's tough to put all that pressure on 459 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell. But it's almost like when you see Chris 460 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: Claybrooks on the field and you see the immediate just 461 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: target him and it's on tape now, so why would 462 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: you not. It's it's tough. But yeah, when you traded 463 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: c J. Henderson and you said the reason we treated 464 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: c J. Henderson is because Campbell's improving, and you put 465 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: him over in the corner, it's a pressurized position. I 466 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: really haven't had him much since then because of that. 467 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: Totally agree. Alright, my hot take, it's hot, but it 468 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: makes sense. Go get Michael Thomas, pay him all the 469 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: money and bring him here. DJ Chark is out, but truthfully, 470 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: and this is nothing against DJ, I don't know if 471 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: he is your long term answer. And we always have 472 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: this conversation, do you need the number one guy? Do 473 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: you need the Julio Jones? This team does, and they 474 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: don't have it. Michael Thomas is a long term solution. 475 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: Even if you pay DJ Chark and it's a contract 476 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: year for him, I still think you need something else. 477 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: And you have Marvin Jones. You don't know how long 478 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: he's playing for Leviscation. Isn't that guy. He's a different 479 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: skill set. You really need this, and I think right 480 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: now is your opportunity to go get it. Yes, build 481 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: through the draft, but you need help right now. And 482 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: I understand this team isn't a playoff team, but if 483 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: you want this rookie quarterback to develop, you need to 484 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: go to guy. And that's that I'm with you. Yeah. Well, 485 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't know he's the right guy, 486 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: but I was the one earlier who was saying, go 487 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: and get a receiver. He certainly fits the mold of 488 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: a big game, game breaking receiver. I don't know that 489 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: he's worth the money. I don't know if he's healthy, 490 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: but you know what, go give this quarterback something that 491 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: he can work with. Way down the field, It'll open 492 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: up everything else and I want to see this kid developed. 493 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I have zero issue with the concept. 494 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of reigned on it a 495 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: little bit earlier. My only concern is, I guess it's 496 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: the old school conservative guy. Um, what are you getting 497 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: when you go try to do this at mid season? 498 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: If it's vetted, if they if he works out, I'm 499 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: all forgetting. I'm all forgetting up to the draft capital. 500 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: I worry about giving up draft capital for a mid 501 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: season pick up if it's not long term. And again, 502 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: you look at his salary, the salary that this team 503 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: would be taking on in two. It's a major help 504 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: for the Saints, who have again salary cap issues they 505 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: have to keep juggling. It's not an issue for this team. 506 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't give up a two. I try to hold 507 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: you with three and maybe package a couple more. If 508 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: that's the guy I want. Um, if it's and and 509 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: the other, we don't know. It's how healthy is he? 510 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: Is he ready to go? But you think he would 511 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: be amenable to playing with this quarterback and there's just 512 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: some drama if he If the long term answer is 513 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: New Orleans and we won't get into that because I 514 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: know John hates those talks. But it's just I don't 515 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: think DJ Chark is a long term answer. And previously 516 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: this season it was okay, if DJ Chark's your answer, great, 517 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: then your said I don't think he is. I don't 518 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: think you're going to pay him coming off of a 519 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: season in which he was unable to contribute, a year 520 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: after they said he didn't play big enough. I think 521 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: he's going to be an open market guy. Yeah, you 522 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: need a long term solution. Prove it, guy. Don't think 523 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: you find that in the draft. Handle it now. Okay, Yeah, 524 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: I'd rather have it in the draft, but I'm not 525 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: averse to this if it's the right guy. Ok fair 526 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: enough and not as hot takes. When we come up 527 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Drive Time, some closing thoughts. That's next. 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