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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. So Max, let's start

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Speaker 1: by talking a little bit about this season so far.

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Speaker 1: What's your state of mind going into Italy about your racing?

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Speaker 2: Very relaxed, to be honest. I mean, yeah, we we

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Speaker 2: had I think, pretty pretty pretty decent starts. Yeah, we've

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Speaker 2: been you know, I think, just constantly improving a bit

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Speaker 2: from from you know, last year. But of course also

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Speaker 2: the competition, you know, they have been also improving, and

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Speaker 2: I think everyone is getting a bit closer here and there.

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Speaker 2: But that's good. I mean everyone is of course trying

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Speaker 2: to push as hot as they can, and that's the

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Speaker 2: same for us.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting to think about, you know, moving to Italy

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Speaker 1: and then on too Monico. After Miami, we sort of

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Speaker 1: see the fullness and I'm speaking to you from Doha,

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Speaker 1: you know, the fullness of this global circuit. Do you

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Speaker 1: think the mix is where it needs to be geographically

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Speaker 1: or or do you think the calendar needs to be tweaked.

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Speaker 2: I think what we're doing in the US at the moment,

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Speaker 2: I think is great. You know, having the three races

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Speaker 2: there in different places I think works really well. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: from my side, the only thing I think what can

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Speaker 2: improve a bit on the calendar is just the general

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Speaker 2: like traveling. We're still traveling a little bit too much

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Speaker 2: left and right. I think it would be it would

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Speaker 2: make a bit more sense, you know, to to maybe

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Speaker 2: start like we did in in Asia, maybe have a

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Speaker 2: few back to backs and then do YEurope and from

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Speaker 2: yere you move on to the US or whatever. You know.

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Speaker 2: So there are few, I think, still a few things

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Speaker 2: that we can do better. Also when you look at

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Speaker 2: from sustainability. But at the same time, of course I

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Speaker 2: understand that you know, having two three races in the

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Speaker 2: same country or in the same continent maybe sells less tickets.

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Speaker 2: But then at the end of the day, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what are you trying to sell? Is it tickets or

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Speaker 2: actually sell the sustainability story. You know, that's what we

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Speaker 2: have to look at.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: And obviously the global audience as well, that's that's tuning

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Speaker 1: in to, you know, watch from from home or bars

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Speaker 1: or wherever. So so to that point in terms of

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Speaker 1: building the fan base, you know, obviously the US, as

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, it's getting much more popular.

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Speaker 3: Drive to Survive We've heard that story a lot.

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Speaker 1: What else does f one need to do what individual

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Speaker 1: teams need to do to ensure that the sport keeps

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Speaker 2: Keeping it real I think, yeah, I mean it's it's

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Speaker 2: a difficult one, you know, because it depends how you

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Speaker 2: want to attract fans like you can attract it of

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Speaker 2: course a very different ways, right, you know, from the

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Speaker 2: entertainment side or actually the performance side of things. And

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Speaker 2: of course you know the sport has been growing a

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Speaker 2: lot lately, probably from you know, more the entertainment side,

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Speaker 2: but you know, you also need to question like what

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Speaker 2: you actually want because I think it's also very important

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Speaker 2: to keep you know, the real die hard fans, you know,

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Speaker 2: really engaged. But you know, these kind of things at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, like you know, I'm the

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Speaker 2: racing driver. I'm very focused on my performance and you

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Speaker 2: know that's already taking a lot of my time, you know,

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Speaker 2: trying to just be on top of my game, you know,

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Speaker 2: being you know, in touch with with my team what

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Speaker 2: we can try and improve. And you know, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: what that those kinds of things are not really going

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Speaker 2: through my mind a lot. You know, how how should

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Speaker 2: I grow the sport? I mean that's not up to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, also the shareholder of the sport.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just here to try and win, win

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Speaker 3: That's a fair point.

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Speaker 1: And obviously the commercial success does, as you rightly point out,

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Speaker 1: rely very much on success on the track. No one

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Speaker 1: has no one would question your success on the track.

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Speaker 1: It's worth pointing out that that obviously, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a big change with with Adrian Newey leaving.

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Speaker 1: What's your confidence level I should say about that side

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Speaker 1: of the equation moving forward, ensuring that you can stay

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's of course, you know, it's been

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Speaker 2: also a shame that you know, Adrian will be leaving,

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Speaker 2: and very excited for for the coming years as well.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, would it have been nice for Adrian to

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Speaker 1: And so when you think about you know, obviously you

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Speaker 1: take care of business on the track, that's clear. How

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Speaker 1: much do you think about your business the business of

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Speaker 1: Max off the track? You know you have some key

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Speaker 1: endorsements with EA, with Heineken. How do you choose those

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Speaker 2: Luckily, you know, I you know, I have a really

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, the sponsorships and endorsement deals,

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Speaker 2: we need to be able to you know, work very

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Speaker 2: well together, which I think with the with the deals

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Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot of days that are

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Speaker 1: And so that that begs the question that a bit,

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Speaker 1: you know, as you think about and I don't imagine

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Speaker 1: how do you build your your business portfolio? How do

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Speaker 1: What do you see yourself doing down the line?

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Speaker 2: I probably, you know myself, I will always race a bit,

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Speaker 1: Speak of plenty going on in the background there. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of off track noise, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think I'm quite a relaxed person, you know, So

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Speaker 2: when I go home, I honestly don't really think about

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Speaker 3: You know, it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, I want to go back very quickly, but

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Speaker 1: other drivers in terms of your wants and needs, in

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Speaker 2: I think they are always very open to have a

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