1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Your work week is over. You know that you found 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: you're looking for. We'll listen to the kick back and 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: get the latest on the Colts in the NFL. This 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: is the Last Word, the Offseason Home of the Colts 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor. Hello and everyone, and 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: welcome to the Last Word. My name is Jeffrey Gorman, 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: joined each week by the voice of the Colts, Matt Taylor. 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: We have brought to you by our friends at fan 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Duel's Sports Book. Download the app today, make every moment more. Okay, 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Mattie Ochi Taylor, let's talk some football. I was going 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: to start with the offseason program of the Colts that's 12 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: coming into full gear here in a little bit. But 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: let's stop for a second because there are reports out there. 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: The Colts have not said anything official yet, but it 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: is out there. Stefan Gilmour is a cult He fills 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: a huge need in the Colts secondary. If and when 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: this becomes official, Matt, what do you think about this 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: player of the Colts are adding? Well, first of all, exciting, 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean some of the people out there, like there's 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: been fans that have been clamoring for it. Let's have 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: an aggressive offseason. Let's start to make some splashes while 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: you've got Matt Ryan, Unique and Gockway and Stefan Gilmour. 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: So I think this qualifies as an aggressive offseason. That's 24 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: exactly what this is. Stefan Gilmore really really exciting player. 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: He can still play at a high level. Jeffrey, He's 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: been one of the best shutdown corners in the game 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: the last five or you know so years. It's not 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: an accident. He's been in the Pro Bowl five over 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: the last six years. You know, last year, you look 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: at what he did. He was traded midseason to the 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Panthers from the Patriots start of the year with a 32 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: quad injury that he suffered at the end of the 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: season prior. But once he came back, Man a really 34 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: consistent player, shutdown guy again, and he was the best 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: player on defense in the NFL not that long ago, 36 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. He's been in the running for that 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: award in other years as well. He's led the league 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: in pass breakups twice. He has twenty seven career picks, 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: So even in his early thirty this is a guy 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: that can still play, take away half of the field, 41 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: shut down elite receivers and help the Colts in the 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: passing game. And that's been their achilles heel last few 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: years on defense, giving up high completion percentage, giving up 44 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: big numbers in the passing game. This is a great 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: get for the Colts. It fills a big time need 46 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: and a big time win for Gus Bradley, and I 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: think a big upgrade on defense. Rockiss and gone to 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: the Raiders, incomes to find Gilmore, Matt Taylor and Jeffrey Gorman, 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: and I like the way that he said that I 50 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: don't know what this young man brings to the locker room, 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: don't hope that much about him just yet. But like 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: you said, a guy who's been around this game for 53 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: a long time bringing in veterans, Chris Ballard has been 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: busy this offseason. We've seen it with Carson Wentz to 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: the Commanders, then getting Matt Ryan in here, Rodney McLeod 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: and Brandon King now in the mix. A couple of 57 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: other guys that are veterans have been around a while. 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: What are we looking at with these new faces, especially 59 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: with McLeod and King. Yeah, it was a busy week 60 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: as far as free agency is concerned. You talk about 61 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: win and ifs to find Gilmore becomes official, and then 62 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: McLeod and King. You know, McLeod is obviously going to 63 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: bring a ton of experience in leadership to that secondary 64 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: at safety, and he might be countered to play a lot, 65 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: maybe early in the season, depending on how things go 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: with Julian Blackman and his achilles injury. But McLeod he 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: knows what it takes to win. He's won a Super Bowl. 68 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: He will be a proven voice in the secondary with 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: some guys that are still relatively young, been a starter 70 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: since twenty thirteen, thirty five career takeaways. Has flexibility too. 71 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: He can play the strong safety position, he can play 72 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: the free safety position. I think eventually he'll rotate where 73 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: they need him, whether that's for Blackman or for Willis 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: and then King. He's been primarily a special teams guy. 75 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: In fact, Jeffrey, He's only played two career snaps on 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: defense for his career. He's listed as ali a Belichick 77 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: guy that says simply stuck around for special teams and 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: special teams only never seen in the field in regular play. 79 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about in specials, and the Colts ate 80 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: him up and for New England to get rid of 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: guys like that. We've seen what Slater's done over there 82 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: for years. Yep. I mean, if he is anything in 83 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: the mold of Slater, the Colts got a good one. 84 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: A guy is gonna say, hey, I'll make a difference 85 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: on specials, but he can also play man. He just 86 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: hasn't had a lot of reps, and I think that's 87 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: exactly what the Colts wont. He's very familiar with Bubba Ventrone. 88 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: He broke into the league in twenty fifteen with the Patriots. 89 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: Bubba was his assistant special team coach. Of course, Bubba 90 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: now the special team's coach here for the Colts, so 91 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: he's very familiar with him as a person, as a 92 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: coach and the special team schemes. And the Colts have 93 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: lost George Odom and Matt Adams in free agency, so 94 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: King provides some good special teams play for the Colts. 95 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: And he's tough as nails. We interviewed him earlier this week. 96 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: A really good guy, good head on his shoulders, and 97 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: he's been able to carve out a nice little niche 98 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: for himself and that third phase of the game. This 99 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: offseason workout program right around the corner. It starts up 100 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: on Monday. It's voluntary nine week offseason program. They conducted 101 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: in three phases here Phase one consistent the first two 102 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: weeks of the program, activity's limited to just meeting, strength 103 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: and conditioning and physical rehab only. The ten days of 104 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: organized team activities are gonna start on May the twenty fourth. 105 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: No live contact, mate, but seven on seven, nine on seven, 106 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: and eleven on eleven drills are permitted during these workouts. 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: So guys are gonna get fresh, guys are gonna get 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: oiled up and finding these new faces. You know what 109 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying that this is the time of year to year. 110 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: That's good knocking off the spider webs. But what's the 111 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: most important things to get accomplished? You think for this 112 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: new group, especially bunding with the old goals? Yeah, I 113 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: mean certainly the big one, you know, Matt Ryan, get 114 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: to know his teammates, specifically the guys on offense. Jeffrey. 115 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: This is I thought about this the other day. This 116 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: is the first offseason workout program that the Colts will 117 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: have a healthy starting quarterback for the upcoming season participating 118 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: in it since twenty eighteen. Think about that, all right? 119 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: Think about how beneficial this is going to be for 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: the Colts with a fresh start and time on task 121 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: prior to the regular season. If Frank Reich has talked 122 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: openly this offseason about how every aspect the passing game 123 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: has to improve, so all of the seven on seven 124 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: rounds the cults are going to get in later on 125 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: this offseason. Those are going to be big time in 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: the meeting room between the quarterbacks and the receivers to 127 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: go over tendencies, likes dislikes. That's so important. And then 128 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: on defense, you're literally starting from scratch with a new 129 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, a new defensive staff. The defense has to 130 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: learn the fundamentals of Gus Bradley's scheme. It needs to 131 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: learn the basic principles, the checks, the audibles. They have 132 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: to get all of that down before training camp so 133 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: they can get a little bit more complex in the 134 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: summer once you do report to camp. And then the 135 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: last thing I speak for every fan listening to this 136 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: is stay healthy and that takes that takes luck, but 137 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: it also takes a plan. And I think the Colts 138 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: definitively have had plans in the past. They've just ran 139 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: into bad luck. But they want to be smart and 140 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: also maximize the time they have on the field with 141 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: these players in the spring. You just want to avoid 142 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: that major injury in the spring. Those major injury at 143 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: the start of workout similar to what you saw at 144 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: the start of training camp last year for the Colts. 145 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's anybody's fault. It just happened, right. 146 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: It was just unfortunate. You had that injury to WinCE, 147 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: injury to Braden Smith, Quentin Nelson, Darius Leonard was banged 148 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: up with the ankle, you know, t Y Hilton. Towards 149 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: the end of camp. Ryan Kelly had that elbow. You 150 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: just want to get things accomplished with no major injuries 151 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: this offseason, starting with the offseason workout program. Amen to that, Matey, 152 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor Voice of the Colts. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. Will 153 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna talk about some more new 154 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: faces that could be wearing the horseshoe. That's right. The 155 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: NFL Draft is coming up, so we're gonna talk with 156 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: one of the best in the business about the NFL Draft. 157 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: That's Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network. He's gonna tell 158 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: us what the Colts think the third thinking to do 159 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: in the second round, why quarterbacks are drifting up the 160 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: draft board at a rapid pace, and a whole lot more. 161 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: We are two weeks away from Draft weekend. Daniel Jeremiah 162 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: coming up, Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. I'm Jeffrey Gorman. 163 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: This is the last Word. Ninety five one or seven five. 164 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: The fan can't get enough football. You're in the right place. 165 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: This is the off season radio home of the Indianapolis Call. 166 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: It's the Last Word with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor 167 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: from the Power Home Solar Radio Studio. Welcome back. It's 168 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: the last Word. We're brought to you by our friends 169 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: with Fandel Sports Book. Download the app today and make 170 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: every moment more Mattay, what are you doing with Social dar? 171 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: I like Social distortion punk rock late nineties early two 172 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: thousand's punk wheelstor You're not really You're wheel, But I 173 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: do like this man. I think jamb turned me on 174 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: to this ban. I think he did. Of course he 175 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: loves social DJM. But you're that You're that late nineties guy, 176 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: you closing time, go away of AGAs and your stay. 177 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about? What are you sitting 178 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: there with JMB in his radio show. That would be 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: a who Well, we did that last year. Listen. It's 180 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: it's like watching a robot. He does not sit still 181 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: for four plus hours. Oh, I'm running the board. He's 182 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: answering phones, he's taking calls and requests and love. No, no, 183 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying, amazing, you've got it. But you've got a 184 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: good ear and you especially like that seventies rock, that 185 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: sort of stuff like you know, we can get into 186 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: Golden earring and stuff like That's all. I want to 187 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: see the mix. But he'll play Echo and the bunny Man, 188 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: you'll play Golden Earring. Listen, it's coming up. Download The 189 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: weekly Official Colts podcast feature the latest news, analysis, insight, 190 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: and interviews regarding your Colts. This week, we talked with 191 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: new Colts senior defensive assistant John Fox, had sit down 192 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: to the new free agent signing Brandon King as well 193 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: or Inside the Draft series continued, had a chat with 194 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: Shane Hallam from the Draft Countdown. Also opened up the 195 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: mailbag on the podcast, answered fan questions which we love 196 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: to do on the free agency and the upcoming NFL Draft. 197 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: You can check those podcasts out right now on colds 198 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: dot Com, the Colts Mobile app, and co It's Audio 199 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: network anywhere you download your podcast. All right, we told 200 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: you about Daniel Jeremiah. We are talking all things draft, 201 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: all things Colts, taking away Matt Taylor. All right, thank you, Jeffrey. Indeed, 202 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: we are two weeks away from the NFL Draft, so 203 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: it's awesome right now to catch up with Daniel Jeremiah, 204 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: NFL Draft analyst at the NFL Network. He's also the 205 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: host of the Move the Sticks podcast along with Bucky Brooks, 206 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: and of course, NFL Draft coverage on the NFL Network 207 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: starts on April twenty eight through the thirtieth, live from 208 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Daniel, thanks so much for the time. Man, 209 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: Happy draft season. Oh, it's great to be with you. 210 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: Just walking into the NFL Network right now, looking at 211 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: so far off to my right there you go to 212 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: get a inch a little bit closer than this draft. 213 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: It seems like it's taken forever to get here, no 214 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: question about it. And you've you've done this for so 215 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: long now, several different capacities. You've been a scout for 216 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: three different teams. Here with about two weeks to go 217 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: before the draft, what are you doing. Are you fighting 218 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: paralysis by analysis right now? Knowing most of the tape 219 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: has been watched, the Pro days have been evaluated, How 220 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: do you fight overthinking it this time of year. Well, 221 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: it's really just about, you know, trying to go back 222 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: to what your first thoughts were on these players. You 223 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: kind of go on a journey, right You watch the 224 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: tape and kind of as you go through the season. 225 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: At the end of the season, you get your notes 226 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: down and then all of a sudden, all this crazy 227 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: this happens in the spring when you start looking over 228 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: all the stars games and you go to the combine, 229 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: you go to Pro days, you talk to sources, you 230 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: get information. So you take all that in and I 231 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: think a lot of times you overreact to some of 232 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: that and then it maybe swings you one way or 233 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: the other. And I think gradually this last like three 234 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: weeks before the draft, I try and make sure that 235 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: I find a good balance there of saying, Okay, let's 236 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: go back into this thing and maybe maybe it was 237 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: fifty fifty from the tape versus all those other things 238 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: I just mentioned. I want to at the end of 239 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: the process, now, okay, now let's make this seventy five 240 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: twenty five of what you saw on the taste and 241 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: kind of course correct and get it back where it 242 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: needs to be. How much you know from from different angles? 243 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, with the draft covering the draft, like I said, 244 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: you've been a scout, you've been with teams, now covering 245 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: the draft at a high level within the media, do 246 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: you still get that satisfaction from the draft like you 247 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: did while working with the team. Yeah, it's weird. You know, 248 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: it's a you don't get quite those those highs that 249 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: you got with the team, but you also don't get 250 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: that terrible awful moment which every scout has had, which 251 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: is when you go to that first rookie mini camp 252 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: and you look at the guy that you stood on 253 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: the table four and you watch him stumble over himself 254 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: and you crap. So I don't. I don't. I don't 255 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: have those loads either. But it is like I tell 256 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: everybody this, this job is like being a teacher. You work, 257 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, you work really hard through the whole year, 258 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: and then we get here to the end and this 259 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: is kind of like final exam week when you get 260 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: to the draft, and then after that you get to 261 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: kind of relax a little bit, and so it's a 262 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: it's a's a good feeling when we get there. It's 263 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analysts and also the host of 264 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: the Move the Sticks podcast, along with Bucky Brooks, and 265 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: of course, NFL Network provides live coverage of the twenty 266 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: twenty two NFL Draft coming up from Las Vegas April 267 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: twenty eighth through the thirtieth. All right, so we know 268 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback class it's not as deep as it has 269 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: been in years past. But you had a really interesting 270 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: thought the other day you put this out there. You know, 271 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: teams are interested in quarterbacks not just based on talent, 272 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: they're interested in young quarterbacks on rookie contracts. Can you 273 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: explain what you meant by that? For those that missed it. 274 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: It has so much to do with roster construction, maybe 275 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: as much as it does with production on the field. Yeah. 276 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: I can just think everybody you know looks at these 277 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: decisions as kind of this or that. You know, you say, okay, 278 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: well I've got my quarterback and my quarterback that compare 279 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: him to this draft class. And I'll say, okay, well 280 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I think my quarterback that already has a little bit 281 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: better than him. It's close, but I think I'll keep 282 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: my guy. But well, you have to factor in. It's 283 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: it's not you know, Kenny Pickett in this draft versus 284 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: your quarterback. It's Kenny Pickett plus what you get to 285 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: do with the extra twenty five to thirty million dollars 286 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: worth of savings for the next four years. That's the comparison. 287 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: And I think that's why. You know, if it's close 288 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: in baseball, would I say Tigers to the runner. You know, 289 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: if it's all close, if you think the evaluation is 290 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: anyway close, you have to go with the younger rookie quarterback. 291 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: It's just too much of an advantage from a salary standpoint. 292 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: It's Daniel Jeremiah with us and staying on quarterbacks. So 293 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield still on the market. You know, he had 294 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: some comments this week on a podcast, former number one 295 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: overall pick, and he's had some good moments in the league. 296 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: But we've seen teams in the past trade draft picks 297 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: for known commodities at several different positions, but that's not 298 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: happening right now with Baker Mayfield. Why do you think 299 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: teams are more willing to roll the dice on the 300 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: draft at quarterback rather than Mayfield specifically. At this point 301 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: in free agency, well, I think it's his situations is 302 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: unique because you know he's going to come with a 303 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: decent size number on the last year this deal then, 304 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: so you're gonna how much assets do you want to 305 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: trade not only to take on that number, but then 306 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: also knowing, okay, best case scenario it plays really well. 307 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: Now you've got to figure out the new contract that's 308 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: not worked out yet either, So there's just some gray 309 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: area there with him, and I think some of these 310 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: teams are almost playing chicken with the Browns thinking Okay, 311 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to move him at 312 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: this number. They're eventually, you know, going to release him 313 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: because they're not going to want the distraction. It's already 314 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: going to be a distraction, and it's going to be 315 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: a media circus with the Shawn Watson coming in there, 316 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: and now you're going to have Baker Mayfield out there 317 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: as well. So I think some teams feel like, you 318 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: know that the day's going to come where they're eventually 319 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: going to say, we're just you know, we can't go 320 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: forward like this, and they'll release him. So it's a 321 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a game of Chicken, Daniel, what did 322 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: you make of the Matt Ryan move for the Colts? 323 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: How viable does Ryan make the Colts entering his age 324 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: thirty seven in season. I like it. I thought when 325 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: you look at all the different options that they had, 326 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if they could have done better in 327 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: terms of what they had to give up, what little 328 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: they had to give up to bring in Matt Ryan. 329 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: So no, I really like it. Now that the one 330 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: thing I'll say about the Colts is that, you know, 331 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: when you look at the roster, this is not I 332 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: think sometimes it gets falsely labeled, is like one of 333 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: the top three or four rosters in the NFL. There's 334 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: some holes they've got to fill. They've got to crush 335 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: this draft. They've got to be creative and and find 336 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: a way to fill some of these spots because it's 337 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: not you know, you look around the AFC. I would 338 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: say that they're they're a really good roster, but I 339 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: would not say they're one of the three or four 340 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: best rosters in the conference. Right now, Yeah, let's pick 341 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: up there because ment Ryan is here a unique in 342 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: Gockway picked up in a trade. But as you said, 343 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: right they have lost some some veteran starters this offseason 344 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: as well. What are the Colts needs in your opinion 345 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: heading into this draft. How does that align with the 346 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: depth of this draft? Well, I think you look at 347 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: the tackle positions is an obvious one. I think this draft, 348 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a it's a solid group of tackles. 349 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's really really deep. I don't think 350 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: there's you know, the premier guys over the top, which 351 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: is not gonna not gonna matter with the Colts, but um, 352 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: you know that's that's an area I think you could 353 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: look and I think continuing just to add more firepower 354 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: on the outside. I love Michael Pittman and what he 355 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: brings to the table. I think trying to get somebody 356 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: else to go with him in Paris Campbell, you're hoping 357 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: to wish him, but um, I don't know that you 358 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: can rely on that at this point in time. So 359 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: those are just a couple areas I would keep an 360 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: eye on. Daniel Jeremiah is our guest NFL Network Analysts 361 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: and you also see him and hear him on the 362 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks podcast along with Bucky Brooks and again 363 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: NFL Networks providing live coverage of the draft coming up 364 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: April twenty eighth through the thirtieth. So, if you're a 365 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: team liked the Colts that could be looking at at 366 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. You brought up tackles as well in 367 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: the second round, can you afford to deviate from wide 368 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: receiver in the second round or is there a fall 369 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: off at wide receiver after the first couple of rounds 370 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Based on how you evaluate this, Yeah, I think it's 371 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: a good It's a deep group and we're going to 372 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: have that with white outs. Um, you know from here 373 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: to the cows come home, because the college game is 374 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: playing with four and five white outs and just about 375 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: every team, so there is depth. There is talent there. 376 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: Um when you look at guys though that are in 377 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: that kind of second round range, there's some, you know, 378 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: there's some. There's some really quality players. They're gonna be 379 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: able to come in and have an immediate impact. So um, yeah, 380 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: they could they could wait, They could afford to wait, 381 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: I should say, but um man, I think if you 382 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: want impact, day one impact, I think that'd be a 383 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: great opportunity to take one of those, right there, Daniel, 384 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: would you be surprised to see the Colts draft a 385 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: quarterback on on Day two and if they did, what 386 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: would that tell you? What would that mean? Well, the 387 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: name that you hear with them, and I've heard for 388 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: a while with Sam Howell. M just kind of heard 389 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: that that connection. So that would be the one that 390 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: would be kind of fascinating to me. And I look, 391 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: if you love him, if you think that he's got 392 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: a chance to be the long term, you know, solution 393 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: at the position, you obviously have no rush to get 394 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: him on the field right now because Matt being there. 395 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: M If you feel that, I think you you it's 396 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: an obligation to the organization to take him. That's a 397 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: that's a you know, potentially ten to fifteen year solution 398 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: at the position. If you think you have that U. Yeah, 399 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: even though I just mentioned I think some other holes 400 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: that they they need to fill and in order to 401 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: be a championship level team, if you think that guy 402 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: can be your starter in the future and do it 403 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: for a decade plus, you got to take him, no 404 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: question about it. We'll see how it goes again. Daniel 405 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: Jeremiah from the NFL Network is our guest final couple 406 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: of things. What happens at the top of the draft 407 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: in your opinion, we got two teams here in the 408 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: AFC South trying to rebound. You got the Jaguars at one, 409 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: the Texans at three, Daniel, how do you see the 410 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: top of the draft shaking out with those two teams 411 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: in mind? Well, I think with the with the Jags 412 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: there at the very top, everybody's you know, kind of 413 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: point to the same thing, which is one of these 414 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: two edge rushers with Aidan Hudginson and Trayvon Walker. I 415 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: still think when it's all said and done, they land 416 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: on Aidan Hudginson. I just think it's it makes too 417 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: much sense. It's a it's a pretty it's such a 418 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: just a clean prospect in terms of the production, plus 419 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: the athleticism, all everything just adds up with him. So 420 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: that would be my guess of where they land. The 421 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: Houston Texans are a little bit trickier to try and 422 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: figure out. I think when you look at them and 423 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: look at the different options that they may be presented with, 424 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: I come away thinking, you know, if they're not if 425 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: they're not in the belief that that Larry Tunsil is 426 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: going to be their long term that you know, these 427 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: offensive tackles. Whichever one they prefer, A Juana or Evan 428 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: Neil probably make the both sense for them. They're at 429 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: number three, all right. Last thing, let's go local here 430 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. There's a few guys from Purdue that I 431 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: think that you're pretty high on. George Carloftis and then 432 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: David Bell. What do you make of those guys and 433 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: those players transitioning to the NFL respectively. Yeah, I'm a 434 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: car Loftics fan. He's a whole rising player. For some reason. 435 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: There are teams that are not as high on him, 436 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: and there's teams that really appreciate him. He's a He's 437 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: a pure power rusher. Um. I think he's my sixteenth 438 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: overall player. So um, I love I love his ability 439 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: to create some knockback. He plays with a huge motor, 440 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: never stops. He's just not real bendy or kind of 441 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: loose as an athlete, which is a bother some people. 442 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of the best rushers in 443 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: this league are power rushers, So I'm a fan of his. 444 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: David Bell, you know, didn't run as well as you 445 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: were hoping he would run, But I think he's probably 446 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: in this in this class which such a deep group. 447 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: I think he's probably a third or fourth round pick. 448 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: Just a real smooth, smooth athlete, and he can he 449 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: can really go up and get it. Man, there's a 450 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: ton of contested catches when you watch him. Absolutely. Yeah, 451 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: We're excited about his potential in the NFL and maybe 452 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: he might be around at forty two when the Colts 453 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: are on the board there in the second round. Daniel 454 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: Jeremiah has been our guest NFL Network analysts Move the 455 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: Sticks podcast. He's going to be all over your TV 456 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: screen rightfully so on the NFL Network coming up on 457 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: April twenty eight through the thirtieth with the twenty twenty 458 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: two NFL Draft from Las Vegas, Daniel, where it would 459 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: give me your top two to three different things to 460 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: do in Las Vegas. How excited are you for Sin 461 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: City for the draft? Man? Well, I'm like a simpleton. 462 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: So just going and looking at the at the fountains 463 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: at the Bellaggio, that's like, I'm just like one of 464 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: the five year olds. I could just sit out there 465 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: and watch that all day long. Behind Yeah, I actually 466 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: think that's where our set is, I believe for the draft. 467 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: So I might be a little distracted. Well, stay safe, 468 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: be smart, and I know you will. So we really 469 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Man, continue success, love your work and 470 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: thanks again. May take great stuff with Jeremiah. I know 471 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: he is a busy man this time of year. Here's 472 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: the thing to be. Let me just be transparent, folks, 473 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this really quick. I'm an idiot. 474 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say it. I'm an 475 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: idiot because we had Daniel Jeremiah and I could not connect. 476 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: Technologically speaking, I'm still baby steps. I mean, that's what 477 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't connect. I'm an idiot. At the end of 478 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: the damn an idiot. But I'm back on. So we're here. 479 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: But listen, we're gonna take a quick time out and 480 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: I promise you we'll be back and talk to him. 481 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: Like at ten o'clock in the morning at Jeffrey like 482 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: ninety five's like, hey, this isn't working. I was like, well, 483 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. Don't worry, we'll make it. We'll 484 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: make Sometimes you just gotta be clean and be honest, folks, 485 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: And it is this case. I am. I am an idiot. 486 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: But we're taking a time out. We're gonna give you 487 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: a formal credit union question in a week regarding your 488 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: coach's history and drafting tight Ends. Okay, we got a 489 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: tight Ends tribute question. We're also going to break down 490 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: Derek Carr's new deal in Vegas. Sorry, matey, Derek Carr 491 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: is off the board. I know you covet that quarterback 492 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: and half for years, but he said, like Derek Carr 493 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: three year extension. We're gonna find out why Baker Mayfield 494 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: is not happy about his falling out in Cleveland. Plus, 495 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: he had a dog on the sofa the other day. 496 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that or not, but 497 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: he was the star of that thing. It was a 498 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: little uncomfortable at times, but he was comfortable. Listen, it's 499 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: all coming back rather on the NFL grab back. This 500 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: is the Last Word five one or seven five to fan. 501 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: This is your weekly fix on Colt's football. The Last 502 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: Word with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor. All right, mate, Tay, 503 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor. Now you're talking your wheelhouse. We are social 504 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: d earlier. Now you got moody blues going. I mean, 505 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, if there's one a couple 506 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: of if you can, if you can pick five songs 507 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: to take with you to a desert island. That's all. 508 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: You got to listen to. Dudsday Due that might be 509 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: one of mine from the Moodies. This is one of 510 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: my mom's favorite songs. My mother, My Carol Taylor huge 511 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 1: Moody Carol. I'm not sure. I'm not sure Moody Blues 512 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: has made my cut the Desert Island criteria. But Carol 513 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: Taylor no less. Yeah. Well have you listened to the 514 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: Moody Blues with Carol? Yeah? Yeah, We've sat on the 515 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: back porch and turned it up a little bit. Yeah. 516 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: I love it. Oh, I love it. I couldn't do 517 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: that with my I would have been Barbra Streisan. If 518 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: that's the case, It's still beautiful. It is beautiful. Listen to. 519 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: Colts have teamed up with Anthem Blue Crosse. Still beautiful, 520 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: blue cross a blue Shield. I just got that to 521 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: recognize school teachers, administrators, nurses and staff members who go 522 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: above and beyond four of their students, their schools, and 523 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: their communities. Nominate your classroom quarterback today at colts dot 524 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: com slash Classroom Quarterbacks Forum, Credit Union Question of the 525 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: Week Time matte Let's Talk about some tight ends. And 526 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: when you talk about tight ends in this Colts era, 527 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Clark comes to mind. So I'm gonna throw that 528 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: one out there before we read this question. The Colts 529 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: have drafted only one tight end under Chris Ballard, and 530 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: that was Kylan Granson last year in twenty twenty one. 531 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: The franchise has invested only four top one hundred picks 532 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: in the position since two thousand and three. I'm gonna 533 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: say that again. The franchise has invested only four top 534 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: one hundred picks in the tight end position since two 535 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: thousand and three. I gave you Dallas Clark. Okay, that 536 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: was there is one that's not fair? All right? Well, 537 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: come on, I mean, my gosh, she's gonna be honor 538 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: one day. So I mean it's Dallas Clark. I'm giving 539 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: you that. I got three more I need him. Tight 540 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: ends that have been picked in the top one hundred 541 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: of the NFL draft positions for the Colts since two 542 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: thousand and three. All right, so top one hundred means 543 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: like first three rounds and then a little bit of 544 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: change in the fourth round. So in the last twenty years, Okay, 545 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: two guys come to mind, immediately because they were drafted 546 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: in the same year. Ironically, the first year I started 547 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: working with the Colts, that was twenty twelve, and I 548 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: think Dwayne Allen was a guy that was drafted in 549 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: the second round. He won the Mackie. He won the 550 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: Mackie Award. Yeah, yeah, actually no, Fleaner was drafted in 551 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: the second round and Allen and the third Allen in 552 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: the third round. Yeah, Okay, that was it. So that's 553 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: the thing I remember that well then, you know, don't forget. 554 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: The offensive coordinator at that time was Bruce Arians and 555 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: he wanted a couple of tight ends. He got two 556 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: of the best in the draft in Dwayne Allen and 557 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: Kobe Fleaner. Can you name the list one, I'll give 558 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: you a little hint. It happened early as two thousand 559 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: and four. This young man came out of Columbus, Ohio, 560 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State, and quite frankly, he's a heck of a 561 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: media member. Now I love it. I love what he's 562 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: doing over ESPN manning guy Ben Hartsock. Yea heart sock, 563 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: Ben Hartsock. That's right. He was sixty eighth overall in 564 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: oh Floor. Kobe Fleaner and Dwayne Allen went second and 565 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: third rounds, and of course Dallas Clark was the twenty 566 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: fourth overall pick. In two thousand and three, my first 567 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: year with the Colts, I met Dallas Clark for the 568 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: first time when he got was drafted. Ursy sent the 569 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: plane for him. He came in with family. He had 570 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: on a pair of Dockers that were four sizes too 571 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: big for him and a dress shirt that was another 572 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: four sizes too big to him, and then just to 573 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: see what he was so good man. It was like 574 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: wait a second, because Polly and that was a Pollyan 575 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: pick and people were like, wait a minute, Dallas Clark, wait, Iowa, 576 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: are we sire? As he a first rounder? Remember? It 577 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: was like all that sort of is he really a 578 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: first rounder that they got? So anyway, obviously proof into 579 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: putting Dallas Clark one of the greatest ever wear of 580 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: the Horseshoe. Loved the kid too. Off the field, the 581 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: young man, I should say, And he's still a Colt 582 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: and always will be a cold Oh yeah. Any went 583 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: to Baltimore too, and a nice couple of TV catches. 584 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: I remember, all right, Dallas Clark, it's good to talk 585 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: about you. The NFL grab Bag time. It is time 586 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 1: to bring it out. We're brought to you by our 587 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: friends at Meyer, the official supercenter of the Indianapolis Colts 588 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: and proud sponsor of hundred local sports teams across the Midwest. 589 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: Open up the grab bag. The NFL never sleeps. This 590 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: is the NFL grab Bag on the last word. Tony Dungee, 591 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: The Diversity Coaching Fellows have been named. The Colts this 592 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: week announced Brent Jackson and Jamel Matunga as the inaugural 593 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee Diversity Coaching Fellows for the twenty twenty two season. 594 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: Jackson will serve as the Defensive Dungee Fellow, while Matunga 595 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: will be the Offensive Dungee Fellow. The Colts created the 596 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee Diversity Fellowship earlier this year to provide an 597 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: opportunity for diverse and talented football coaches to gain valuable 598 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: experience as they progress in their careers. Mattey, I love 599 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: this the more the marrier. I wish coaching staffs could 600 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: be sixty deep, but they're not. They're getting bigger and 601 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: bigger every year. But what an opportunity for young coaches 602 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: to come in and learn about the game at the 603 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: professional level. You'll be seeing some of these young men 604 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: and women, by the way, as the years go on 605 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: at top positions in the NFL. Well done, well, that's true. 606 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: I mean there were women considered for this. And we've 607 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: got an interview with Brent Jackson up right now on 608 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: the Colts Audio Network. Really impressive guy. He spent the 609 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: last seven seasons coaching at the college level. Began his 610 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: career as a student assistant at Louisiana. That's his alma 611 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: manor coach there. He's also coached at Auburn and Oregon 612 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: and then Matunga has a ton of college experience as well, 613 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: most recently at Rutgers. He was the offensive quality control 614 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: coach there for the last couple of seasons. So this 615 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: is incredibly cool what the Colts are doing. There's been 616 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: a lot of chatter about how do we improve diversity 617 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL league wide, and the cults are doing 618 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: something about it. They are making a difference and it's 619 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: going nowhere that'll be around forever. I love it. It's 620 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: a again the Tony Dungee Diversity Coaching Fellow's name. You 621 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: want more information on that, you can go to Colts 622 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: dot Com also download the Colts app. Okay matey. I 623 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: talked about Derek Carr before the break. He's signed one 624 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one and a half million dollar deal. 625 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: It'll keep him there for three years in Vegas. They've 626 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: got new leadership there, obviously a lot going on in 627 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: the front office with what happened to Gruden. Now into 628 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: this year, it's a great team. They're young cars going nowhere. 629 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Even though every year they were talking about where's he 630 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: gonna end up. I'd love him in the horseshoe, et cetera, 631 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: et cetera. Hey, you saw it coming, new GM, new 632 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: head coach. You're going to invest He's going nowhere. He's 633 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: going He's gonna be there through twenty twenty five. He's 634 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: one of the best. You know, I think he's one 635 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league. We were talking 636 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: the other day just internally inside the office with the 637 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: AFC West and that the quarterbacks inside that division. You know, 638 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: you got Derek Carr, Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, and Justin 639 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: Herbert Jeffrey. I can think of no other division that 640 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: has rivaled that in terms of quarner packs in the 641 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: recent past. And then it also kind of spurred a 642 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: debate what was the toughest point of the AFC South 643 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: in terms of quarterbacks? Right, so you go back to 644 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, what was the toughest point of 645 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: the AFC South in terms of quarterbacks across the board 646 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: within the four teams in the division. I'm gonna give 647 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: you time to think, because I know I'm putting you 648 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: right on the spot. Oh my god, come on, I 649 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: mean I jotted Gabber. Do I have to go through 650 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: the Blaine Gabber years? Well, I jotted down two thousand 651 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: and two because at that point you had Manning, Steve McNair, 652 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: David Carr, and then you had a Mark Brunel who 653 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: was right at the end of his career. And then 654 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: of course Manning and McNair both won in Yeah, David 655 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: Carr is a rookie, you know that. And then the 656 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL for a while, I know that, right, 657 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: And the only other year that that sort of rivals 658 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: that would be twenty eighteen. You had a lot Deshaun Watson, 659 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota, and Blake Bortles. But I think the tide 660 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: probably goes to two thousand and two because of Manning 661 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: were MVPs of two thousand and two. There's no better. 662 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have two guys that are sharing 663 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: an MVP quarterback and in the same division, game over 664 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: that division is the best. You know what I'm saying 665 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: in football as far as quarterback play, no question about it. 666 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: But my point is even at the height of quarterback 667 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: play in the AFC South historically in the last twenty years, 668 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: that's nothing top to bottom like we see right now 669 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: in the AFC West. All right, Baker Mayfield, let's talk 670 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: another quarterback real quick. He was on the y in 671 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: K podcast this week and he said he was told 672 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: one thing and the Browns completely did another. Obviously he's 673 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: better after Deshaun Watson's coming in. He was on this podcast, 674 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: which is also filmed. I saw it on social media. 675 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: His dog was inappropriate next to him on the couch. 676 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was for mature audiences only to watch 677 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: the spread. It was almost like a playgirl spread or 678 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: something that was it was. It was. It was funny. 679 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: It was very very odd. Hey, that's a dog's due. 680 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: Your dog does that, and they all do it. And 681 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: this camera happened to be on okay, but seriously, getting 682 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: to Mayfield, I love the kid. I do. I mean, 683 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: I he's not my quarterback. We can't talk about it whatever. 684 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: I love the way he plays. He's a gun slinger. 685 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: Major issues some games, other games, he looks good. He 686 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: wants to be a leader. He's talked about Seattle popotentially 687 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: being a landing spot. But this is an alpha male, 688 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: a number one overall pick. Don't forget who wants to 689 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: run a program. And right now he's, you know, kind 690 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: of a man without a team. I think that'll change though, sometimes, somehow, 691 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: some way. Because of the quarterbacks in this situation in 692 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, if you find a good one or even 693 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: above average one, they don't go many places. I don't 694 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: know where he's gonna end up with Seattle if it's 695 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: a long term. But I like Baker. Mayfield's my point. 696 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: I think you'll have another opportunity. I agree, but I 697 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: just don't know if it's gonna be next season. There's 698 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: just not a lot of quarterback openings right now. You 699 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: talked about Seattle, So if it's not Seattle, I just 700 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know. I think he's really gonna have 701 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: to work through some stuff. He's gonna have to reprove it. 702 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna have to show it all over again that 703 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: he's one of the best thirty two quarterbacks in the NFL. 704 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: If it's not Seattle, I just I don't know. And 705 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: even with that, even with the Seahawks, I don't see 706 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: them doing anything with him until after the draft. So, 707 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about this with Daniel Jeremiah Jeffrey. 708 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: There's there's something attractive to having a young quarterback on 709 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: a rookie deal because of what you can do rock 710 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: with you. They owe him eighteen point five million this year. 711 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean, somebody's paying the kid almost nineteen million to 712 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: play on their team. That being said, there's not a 713 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: lot of openings right now for starting quarterbacks. Is my price, 714 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: but it's not defended for the next season. Yeah, you 715 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. My point is somebody is gonna 716 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: pay that kid because he has to. Whether it's the Browns, 717 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks, the Arizona car I don't know, but 718 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna take The Browns are gonna pay the most 719 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: of it. I believe if they do end up shifting 720 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: this guy somehow, some way, I'm just saying if he 721 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 1: doesn't play in this season, I mean, if he doesn't 722 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: play getting see a lot of action, people will be, 723 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, turning around in twenty twenty three saying, Okay, 724 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: we got Mayfield. Now he's on our roster. He's good. 725 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: He's with a new team. That's just what happens with 726 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: this league. We've seen him that I agree with absolutely, 727 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: But as far as next season him being a starting quarterback, 728 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna be tough. All right. I had fun. We 729 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: went off on a couple of tangents we probably shouldn't have. 730 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield may have been one of them right there. 731 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: But matey, I hope you have a good weekend. We 732 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: got spring coming off. The NFL Draft is right around 733 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: the corner. Colts will have you covered again, don't forget. 734 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: You can go to Colts dot com find out the 735 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: latest information. More on Stefind Gilmore signing there. Coultial announced 736 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: it it looks like next week, but the word on 737 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: the street, the rumor has it's to find Gilmore in 738 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: the stable. Now for the Colts, it's gonna be fun 739 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: watching impair up with Kenny Moore and the boys. Matey, 740 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun man, I hope you 741 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: have a great weekend YouTube man, halfy Easter all right, 742 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: Halfy great Easter weekend. Everybody coming up next? You bet 743 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: with Bett Rivers