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Speaker 3: now is none other than the Freeway Ricky Ross, a

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Speaker 3: living legend whose life story reads like a gripping novel.

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Speaker 3: He has transcended the boundaries of adversity to become a

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Speaker 3: symbol of resilience, entrepreneurship and transformation. You guys, coming up

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Speaker 3: from the streets of south central La Freeway Ricky Ross's

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Speaker 3: journey this is a testament to the power of human potential.

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Speaker 3: He's come from humble beginnings, He's navigated the complexities of life,

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Speaker 3: marked by challenges, and has merged as a central figure

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Speaker 3: in the world of drug trade in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: I'm mada, how are you man?

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Speaker 1: I got more now?

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you though, the evolution beyond those tumultuous

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Speaker 3: years has made his impact shine beyond the years right now.

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Speaker 3: After his release from prison, Freeeriy Ricky Ross embraced a

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Speaker 3: path of redemption and empowerment which I'm excited to hear about.

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Speaker 3: His commitment to education and community development has been nothing

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Speaker 3: short of remarkable. He's a trailblazer in the realms of

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Speaker 3: personal growth and advocacy. He has dedicated himself to dismantling

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Speaker 3: systematic barriers and providing opportunities for individuals to transcend their circumstances. Today,

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Speaker 3: we are going to deep dipe into Freeway Rickey Ross's

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Speaker 3: life journey, exploring his highs lows relationships within the cannabis

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Speaker 3: industry from a street hustler to motivational speaker and mentor.

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Speaker 3: And I love that his story is a beacon of

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Speaker 3: hope that reminds us all that transformation is within reach

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Speaker 3: no matter where we start. You guys, without further ado,

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Speaker 3: please welcome my man, mister Freeway Ricky.

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Speaker 2: Who was that you was in? Wow?

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Speaker 4: So Freeway Man, tell us you know, you know, right

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Speaker 4: off the jump, man, let's go back, you know before

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Speaker 4: we go and tell the good stuff that you know

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Speaker 4: people may or may not know about you that that

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Speaker 4: I want to dive into.

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Speaker 1: But let's get back into you know, I grew up

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Speaker 1: in South Central. What school did you go to?

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Speaker 5: I went to elementary. I went to Manchester Elementary, Bredhard

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Speaker 5: Junior High School Firestone, Firestone, Manchester's Manchester.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Manchester, I forget. Yeah yeah, Imperial. It was a

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Speaker 1: little down the ways Imperial right now.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's what I'm saying on them Perial right now.

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Speaker 2: Brad Hart was called brick City, okay.

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Speaker 5: And then I transferred to Dorsey in high school because

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Speaker 5: I started playing tennis. No way, thank you for tennis.

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Speaker 1: That was your sport. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your tennis saved my life.

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Speaker 2: Had it not been for tennis, I don't know what what.

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Speaker 5: I probably would have became, you know. Uh yeah, because

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Speaker 5: in in elementary I wanted to be a.

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Speaker 1: Crypt okay, yeah, most of us did. Yeah, they call

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, you think you're gonna be that?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 5: It's crazy that a couple of homeboys that I ran

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Speaker 5: with in elementary and junior high school sure, just getting.

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Speaker 2: Out of prison, yeah, you know, forty five years.

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Speaker 5: Thirty eight years and and and not for money crimes.

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Speaker 4: You know, for yeah, the ones you can ever give

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, unfortunately. You know, did you ever go to college.

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Speaker 5: I went to junior college. Well, let me say this.

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Speaker 5: I played tennis at the junior college. I didn't really

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he got a PhD in the University of

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Speaker 3: the Streets I went.

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Speaker 1: I went there, but I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't go here like you're hearing me, but you're

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Speaker 2: I was on the road. She but yeh, you know,

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Speaker 3: What was it about tennis that made it? I'm really curious, man.

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Speaker 3: Was that the coach or the opportunity or with the girls.

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Speaker 5: I wish were no girls in tennis back girls didn't

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Speaker 5: like tennis players. You know, the basketball players and the

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Speaker 5: football players got all of them. Yeah, yeah, tennis.

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Speaker 2: But what tennis did for me is it gave me hope.

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Speaker 5: After I was a real little guy, and and none

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Speaker 5: of the coaches talked to me about basketball or football.

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Speaker 5: And I didn't know what what I was going to

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Speaker 5: do in school. I couldn't read, I couldn't write, so

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Speaker 5: I know my academics wasn't going to be it. And

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Speaker 5: I was always looking at sports so when I when

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Speaker 5: I found tennis, I was like, oh wow, this is

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Speaker 5: the sport that a lototle guy can really joint succeed in.

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Speaker 5: So I fell in love with it around.

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Speaker 1: Tony's a little guy too.

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Speaker 3: I also, funny enough, tennis was my sport.

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Speaker 2: We got to hit some balls with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's funny.

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Speaker 3: We're not little, We're not We're vertically challenged.

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Speaker 1: Because little is a different level.

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Speaker 3: You know, blue can relate to little.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like just a little bit taller than

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Speaker 4: you guys, about the same size.

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Speaker 1: As you guys.

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Speaker 2: I only needed two more inches I would be.

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Speaker 3: People don't understand, man, I'll send you a link. Amazon's

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Speaker 3: got this amazing lift shoes that we've talked about. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: every two inches.

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Speaker 1: So so listen.

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Speaker 4: So so you you were there, you were playing, uh

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Speaker 4: playing ball saved your life, right and then you know.

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Speaker 2: It took me out of the streets. Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 5: You know when I was in federal prison, m c

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Speaker 5: C fight my life sentence and I remember when they

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Speaker 5: were executing Cookie Williams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that. It was huge.

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Speaker 4: It was all over television everywhere everywhere. Streets are going

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Speaker 4: crazy and and.

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Speaker 5: I didn't know too Keip, but I saw him a

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Speaker 1: Park, you know where, oh all right, in the in

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Speaker 2: In the neighborhood, I would seem and and had they allowed.

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Speaker 5: Me to hang out with him and my mom would

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Speaker 5: allowed it, you know, I would, I'd have been right

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Speaker 5: there with him. So when when they killed him, uh.

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Speaker 2: I thought back of how lucky I was not there

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Speaker 2: be there, because you.

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Speaker 5: Know, if you're running with somebody, you don't know which

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Speaker 5: incident it.

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Speaker 4: Is, what it is when it happens. Yeah, there's no

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Speaker 4: there's no like, oh, well you know it's going down.

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Speaker 4: It's going down now in the.

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Speaker 5: Mix exactly exactly, so so you understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, So when I look back at my life,

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Speaker 5: I was just thankful that uh you know that that

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Speaker 5: Uh Richard Williams introduced me to Tennis.

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Speaker 3: What time period of your life was, how old were

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Speaker 3: you that you got sentence? And how long was that

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Speaker 3: sentence by time he got out?

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Speaker 2: Uh, I got my life sent thirty six.

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Speaker 4: No, So before we go to in the DV that,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I want to keep going into a

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Speaker 4: little bit of of of who you are, because I

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Speaker 4: you know, I like that, like, you know, people see you,

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Speaker 4: you know, in certain lights, right and I think it's

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Speaker 4: important that they know, you know, who you were growing up,

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Speaker 4: and then you know, I don't think anybody would have

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Speaker 4: claimed that, oh, he plays tennis when I hear your story,

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Speaker 4: I'm not like, oh, yeah, Ricky Robs is playing tennis.

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Speaker 1: No, I never thought that at all.

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Speaker 2: I would think by the neighborhood teach.

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Speaker 1: Me, yeah, I bet well.

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Speaker 4: But I would also think that it would be you know,

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Speaker 4: on some like, Okay, he must have been one of

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Speaker 1: But I know a lot more than than than other people.

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Speaker 4: But but what's on what's on Netflix, what's on television?

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Speaker 1: What do you watch at home right now?

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Speaker 5: Kind of what kind of I don't really watch. The

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Speaker 5: last last series I watched was The Defining One Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Dre And yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 2: And Jimmy I bean, I loved it. I loved it.

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Speaker 5: You know, I just got a distribution deal from Universal,

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Speaker 5: so I wanted to find out what the great ones did.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: One of the things I found out about my success,

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't know if we're ready for that.

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Speaker 1: Go for we're ready for what you got.

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Speaker 2: I've always had an ability to.

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Speaker 5: Hang out with the good guys, you know, the guys

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Speaker 5: that are winning at those particular things, you know. And

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Speaker 5: what I found out is that when you study the

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Speaker 5: great ones, you know, you may not be as great

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Speaker 1: You start to learn like them, you start to mimic them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you look like them, you know, and sometimes you

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Speaker 5: get the points that they did. So I had to

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Speaker 5: watch that documentary.

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Speaker 1: Sure, you know, Yeah, it was a great documentary.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was at Death Row in the nineties

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Speaker 4: so and a lot of people don't know that about me,

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Speaker 4: but I was one of the first lot and artists

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Speaker 4: there and spent a lot of time with all of

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Speaker 4: them guys, and and you know, when I got to

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Speaker 4: watch that video, also, the uh straight out of Compton video,

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Speaker 4: I think it was straight out of Compton with all them,

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Speaker 4: a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: Was really happening, you know.

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Speaker 4: It's a real good indication of what was happening out there.

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Speaker 4: And I was fortunate enough to actually see it, so

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Speaker 4: it really kind of brought me so close to seeing

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Speaker 4: all that again.

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, you know, it's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: So with with what you're doing right now. You know,

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Speaker 4: I know that you have a lot, you know going on.

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Speaker 4: We talked of off air, but I want to go

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Speaker 4: into you know, where it all happened.

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Speaker 1: So you know, tell us is Ricky Ross your real name?

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Speaker 3: Right, you know, And it wasn't because you were a

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Speaker 5: Nobody had ever showed me the techniques reading and writing.

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Speaker 2: Oh? When when I left prison, I was reading on

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Speaker 5: I think that nobody taught me the technique of reading,

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Speaker 2: So it really really boiled down to the consistent you know, reading, reading, reading.

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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 1: No way, Yeah, you called him like yo, and he.

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Speaker 5: Was like, oh no, you're not gonna win that. That's

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Speaker 3: He's where do you want to refund right now? Give

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Speaker 5: You know they don't get them retainers back once you

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Speaker 2: That's theirs. Oh no, I used that.

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Speaker 5: Uh but yeah, Maceli made me some Q cards, you know,

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Speaker 2: I amn't saw George in a while.

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Speaker 1: He's locked up?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he got out before I did.

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Speaker 1: They did?

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Speaker 4: Did they have in the FED that they had your insteads?

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Speaker 4: Where were you locked up most of the time?

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 5: I did six years in MC San Diego fighting the case.

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Speaker 5: Then I went to USP Lompoc, I went to Victorville

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Speaker 5: and I eventually got out at uh f CI texall canon.

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Speaker 3: A seven facilities if I could count.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave me, they gave me.

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Speaker 3: You got a little tour, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, sometimes it's good to break up your time,

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Speaker 2: you know, see a different group of people, group of

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Speaker 1: You know. And you mean, do you meet some good

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Speaker 2: I met some great people.

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Speaker 4: I always hear good things about like, you know, people

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Speaker 4: they're always like coming out like dude, I learned so much,

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Speaker 1: Of the world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, you know, they're very intelligent people, right

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Speaker 5: A matter of fact, one of the guys who turned

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Speaker 5: he was in there because he said that he shouldn't

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Speaker 5: have to pay taxes, right, and he had to Bigg's

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Speaker 3: Or he canna be back in here.

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Speaker 1: I guess what was my favorite but.

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Speaker 2: The richest Man in Babylone.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: You know absolutely books that I I took a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I studied hard. I read it with three hundred

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Speaker 5: I read the newspaper every day. I used to subprib

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Speaker 3: How many years total was that of Little lock Up?

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Speaker 5: I did twenty years to two different bills, you know, diferent.

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Speaker 2: Wash me up on that one.

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Speaker 1: Brother, I got to took the copah stop. Uh.

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Speaker 5: Here ses I got out in six months.

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Speaker 4: We leave things so so really, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: like I said, I can jump. I don't want to jump,

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Speaker 4: you know, into the things that I know, you know,

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Speaker 4: I know their street legends, I know the street ledge version,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: but you know, give us your story from from like

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Speaker 2: Know, well as as we already talked about, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was doing that a couple of my homeboys, and

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Speaker 2: I'm really back into the hood now. You know, when

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Speaker 1: Sure, you know, when I when.

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Speaker 2: I leave tennis practice, I get to the house, I'm

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Speaker 2: But now.

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Speaker 5: I'm back in the hood. You know, I'm hanging out.

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Speaker 5: I'm seeing guys carrying guns. I'm seeing guys smoke.

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Speaker 1: Weed and cigarette on the block.

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Speaker 5: They drinking eight ball. So one day my guys was like, man,

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Speaker 2: It was on Century and uh in Vermont at the

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Speaker 2: So so we go to the street races and we're

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Speaker 1: Car I was like, what the hell what coming from?

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Speaker 2: I gotta have me one of those.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tennis didn't pay for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then they had the pretty girls in there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want both of those. I'm gotta have both those. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I started going around asking all the guys man,

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Speaker 1: Y'all cars like this? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And a guy by the name of Dirty Bennie was like,

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. I shout out to Dirty Bennie.

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Speaker 5: My bike over to his house. Yeah, and he said,

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Speaker 5: Come on go with us. So I started off driving

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Speaker 5: And it started from there. Benny wound up going to prison.

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Speaker 5: I took over his business.

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Speaker 1: He took it over.

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Speaker 5: A team with my own chop shop. I got my

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Speaker 1: Him how to steal a car. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the the the old, the screwdriver, and then the.

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Speaker 2: You know, dealing with the stolen cars.

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00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 5: Then I was introduced to cocaine by a guy by

446
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 5: the name Michael McLaurin.

447
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Michael McLaurin.

448
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, he used to paint cars.

449
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: It's not that sounds for me. I don't know that name.

450
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 5: He was one of the top painters. Okay, there was

451
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,159
Speaker 5: Big D. Who else was it? It was it was

452
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 5: like three of them that was that was like top

453
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 5: painters of cars.

454
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and him. It got really tight because I

455
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: wanted to paint my car. I didn't have no money,

456
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 2: but I wanted.

457
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: He said, let me show you how to get some money.

458
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: That's good.

459
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: So he introduced me.

460
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 5: He gave me my first fifty out of rock, told me,

461
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 5: you see what I could do with it?

462
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: Was crack already big then?

463
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't, and wasn't anybody nobody talked about crack. Yeah,

464
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 5: most of the people didn't was snorting it, yeah, you know,

465
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 5: including him, including him. But he gave me fifty dollars

466
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 5: worth and I ran into uh Martin and pimp.

467
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 2: You know.

468
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 5: I asked all other hommies and all of the old g's.

469
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 5: Nobody knew what cocaine was, you know, what it looked like.

470
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 5: And finally Martin cooked it up. So Martin was the

471
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 5: first time I ever seen anybody actually cook up some cocaine.

472
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 5: It up and I thought it was rocket signs. I

473
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 5: was like, damn, this guy is cool.

474
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 1: It's really real.

475
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: And he beat me out the fifty.

476
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Wow, he beat you out the fifty right.

477
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 2: On the right on the bat. I lose my first day.

478
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 4: The She just said he checked this out of the

479
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 4: hardy run over there and checked this and boom, go

480
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: how did he get you out of the man?

481
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 5: Well, he had to test it once he rocked it up.

482
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 5: He had to test it. Yeah, and you're talking about

483
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 5: this thing. Was only decided to match it. Yeah, fifty

484
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 5: dollars worth.

485
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: He tested the whole thing.

486
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: So he tested a little and he was like, man,

487
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're gonna sell that. Look, I'm just

488
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: gonna give you fifty dollars for it later. Yeah, do

489
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: it on the pipe man. Boom. But but what happened?

490
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: You learned?

491
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: He called me back.

492
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, but not with the fifty bucks. But he had

493
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 5: somebody who wanted to buy one hundred dollars worth.

494
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, beat you yees, No, I.

495
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 5: Don't had nothing, Yeah, so I called I called Mike,

496
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 5: and I literally became the middle man.

497
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

498
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 5: When they would call me, I would call Mike. Mike

499
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 5: would bring it down, give it to him. But I'm

500
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 5: not getting any money.

501
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 1: Out of this, right, you're catching up your fifty still.

502
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 5: So eventually we did that. I called a gt A

503
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 5: case too. I got caught. The cops rated my shop.

504
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 5: I had seven cars chopped in half.

505
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: And tops already this at this time.

506
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 2: I'm nineteen.

507
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 3: Wow, we're still like in the early eighties at this.

508
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: Point the seventies, late seventies. I started thinking it right

509
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: before the eighties.

510
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 5: Okay, so, uh, captuate my shop so I can't steal

511
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 5: cars anymore. Mike ain't let me make my money off

512
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 5: the cocaine. So I'm just really just like like helping Mike.

513
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 5: So my man Ali, who had went to jail for burglary,

514
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 5: get out and he was like, man, what you doing.

515
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 5: I was like, Man, I'm selling uh cocaine for Mike,

516
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 5: but I ain't making no money. I need three hundred

517
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 5: fifty dollars to get started, because that's at that time

518
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 5: I ate. I ate, well, we used to call it

519
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 5: eight balls, was selling for three fifty. So he was like, look,

520
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 5: you start to still pretty much cheaper.

521
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard it.

522
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 2: Say like, we'll give you some cocaine for free.

523
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just come over like, hell, you need anything.

524
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 4: I'm like I'm good or yeah, I'll take that whatever

525
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: the better feeling.

526
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: Let me taste it.

527
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: So I going to start the car.

528
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: But how we we?

529
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 5: We we find the duce in a quarter at Brenhard

530
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 5: Junior High School, our old high school.

531
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: We strip it and the rest was history. We never

532
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 2: broke again.

533
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you started buildings, how the empire started.

534
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: That's how it started with that with aduce in a quarter,

535
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: built it.

536
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 3: Up and was it a rocket ship? Was it over

537
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: a time? Gradual? I mean for you to become a legend.

538
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 3: There's so many kids that come up in the game

539
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 3: and they're a dime a dozen, but for you to

540
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: make a name like that was there was our first time.

541
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 5: It didn't happen overnight. I didn't really know the game,

542
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 5: you know. I had to learn how to sell cocaine. Yeah,

543
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 5: you know, and it was it was a process.

544
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: But you took it serious, clearly.

545
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 5: Very seriously. I mean I felt that, you know, Elie

546
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 5: time said that. I thought that it was God's gift

547
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 5: to me. I thought that was what a guy was like, Oh,

548
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 5: I'm blessing you with this was.

549
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: That was there a turning point like you ever have

550
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: addiction through that?

551
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 2: I did it for two weeks.

552
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did it two weeks. Said this is too good.

553
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: I got to get away from it.

554
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, we we started with an ounce.

555
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 5: I mean we had an ounce of cocaine.

556
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: We I was rich. This is when Alan probably could

557
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: make at that time off of.

558
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 4: Twelve hundred bus way more than nine thousand thousand.

559
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: Wow, I have a feeling a three fifty and eight.

560
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: That ship was.

561
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 5: Now you got a guy you gottat even think of that.

562
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 5: You got a guy who who you know, a couple

563
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 5: of months ago, weeks ago, didn't have gas money. The

564
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 5: gas was born on the galla. Sure, now he got.

565
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 4: Nine racks, huh quick? And back then nine racks went

566
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: a long way.

567
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

568
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 5: And our favorite restaurant at that time was Tackle Pezz right,

569
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 5: Tackle Pete. You get a brito fifty cent?

570
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: You're taking everybody out, everybody like that?

571
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: What's up, Ricky? You're leaving fifty cents for that too?

572
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: It was there was there a pivotal moment, you know

573
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: in that movie with Johnny Depp Blow he meets the

574
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: dude in prison that became his connect. Was there a

575
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: main connect to put you on the map or was

576
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 3: it just kind of grinding out?

577
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: I found out that I learned how to build connects.

578
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: Wow, that was your superpower you could build.

579
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 5: I mean you could take a person who's just a

580
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: mediocre guy but knows the people, and if you keep

581
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 5: running that money to him, pretty soon he becomes the man.

582
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: And started knowing how to build people. Yeah, I learned

583
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: how to build them, and you're doing that today and

584
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: your businesses.

585
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 5: Absolutely everything that I do, I try to build people up,

586
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 5: you know, make them bigger, because the more big people

587
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 5: you have around you, then the bigger you are.

588
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you started to when did it start to

589
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: get to like, you know, from the ounce level, you know,

590
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 4: now it goes up to the quarter pounds fast, you know,

591
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: like kilos.

592
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: You know.

593
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 5: What I found out is is it was hard to

594
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: get to an ounce, but once you get there, it.

595
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: Was easy to go.

596
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: It's like your first million, The.

597
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: Next ounce is easy to get. And I went from

598
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 5: one ounce to five ounces to ten ounces, and then

599
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 5: now I want to get to a pound. You know,

600
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 5: that pound was hard to get to, but then once

601
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 5: I hit the pound and it was thirty pounds. And

602
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 5: then I finally, finally somebody tipped me off of Bikilos. Hey, man,

603
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 5: they've been beating you out of four ounces.

604
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: Every every time you buy two pounds, you lose four hourceswounds.

605
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: Give me my sixteen hours.

606
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 5: So and they was like, oh, no, they've been beating

607
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 5: you out of them for four ounces. And I was like,

608
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 5: it beat me out of four ounces. You're talking about

609
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 5: two thousand dollars a piece. So when I turned that around,

610
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 5: I started making a live money. Yeah, and then I

611
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 5: got to the point to where I would buy connections.

612
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: You know.

613
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: I would go to the guy and be like, man,

614
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 5: you really don't want to be in this business. We'll

615
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 5: give you sixty.

616
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: Thousand dollars to walk away, and guys would take it.

617
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, you're you're buying the source of the clientele,

618
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: the source, so you're consolidating sources.

619
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: I already had.

620
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: I already had the contail.

621
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 5: What what what I did with the client tail is

622
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 5: I had these step up houses.

623
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: Where if you only have fifty dollars, you would go

624
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: to this house. But if you started to by, like,

625
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: guys would come there with one thousand dollars buying fifty

626
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: dollars rocks, right, and so that guy.

627
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: My guys in the house would use to the next

628
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 5: house and be like, okay, you you you.

629
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: Just stepped up your game.

630
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: Step up the game.

631
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: You moved up to the big league.

632
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 5: And they would do that until the guys would even

633
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 5: get big enough to come and meet me.

634
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: Sure, that's the step up.

635
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: I would have oounce houses, half pounce houses, eight houses,

636
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 5: quarter pound houses.

637
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: So this system would allow people to step elevate.

638
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: You know.

639
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 5: Basically, what I what I tried to do was the

640
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: things that I know would have benefited me when I

641
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 5: was coming up that I wanted.

642
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: Then I gave that type of access to it to.

643
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: You motivated bad behavior not a bad thing. I mean,

644
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: it's a business model.

645
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: You know.

646
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: On the seminars says stem or personal development, we call

647
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: it the ascension model.

648
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: Well, you know, but that's what happens. But that's what

649
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: happens when when you leave people behind.

650
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah you got you got to make room for everybody.

651
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well said, they're gonna find a way.

652
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: To catch up. Yeah, whatever that looks like.

653
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 4: So you got them stepping up and then in the houses,

654
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: and then so they finally meet you, and then you

655
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 4: would start.

656
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: To move keys to them.

657
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 4: Correct, right, and then and then how many of those

658
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: folks did you have on the block?

659
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: Give us a scale of how big that was.

660
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: Oh, no, it was it was big, man, I don't know.

661
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: Fifty sixty people? Yeah, you know, yeah, people coming from

662
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: all over the country.

663
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they come to La to get LA was

664
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: the spot. Yeah, yeah, come to La to get.

665
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: What they want to take it back to wherever they

666
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: were in Icago, the Midwest.

667
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

668
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: From a business standpoint, I'm really curious when you said

669
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: you were purchased the sources, So did you not have

670
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: enough volume coming af from your main source where you

671
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: have to acquire somebody else's sources you're trying to get

672
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: him out of the business. Well, you never get enough really,

673
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: So the back then like you could not you could enough.

674
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: You can't get enough cocaine ship, Yeah, that was getting

675
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 5: the cocaine was a problem.

676
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: And this is pre nine to eleven. So you could

677
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: literally coming in, you know, suitcases from everywhere and you

678
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: still could not get enough.

679
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: You could, but you know they were they were on

680
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: cocaine harder. They were on it harder being than they

681
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 5: are now. The law enforcement has actually let up.

682
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

683
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: You know, back then, you go to jail for cocaine,

684
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: you ain't getting a bail.

685
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: No, yeah, you're done. Yeah. Now now you get busted

686
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: with an ounce and give you a ticket. Yeah yeah,

687
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: or I mean it wasn't like that, right.

688
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: You busted with fifty kilos, they get your bail.

689
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, before they were taking you there.

690
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 5: Oh no you're not getting the bail. But you're twenty five,

691
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 5: you get you might start doing it.

692
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

693
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: It would be like, yo, why do you want bail?

694
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not going anywhere.

695
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: You're not going nowhere.

696
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: I was explaining that, but I said, listen, you know

697
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't realize that when when I

698
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: was very young, I think the maximum life sentence was

699
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: like six or ten years, you know what I mean.

700
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: When when when for murder?

701
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 4: You know, I mean I mean my my well, my family,

702
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 4: they caught some cases like that, you know, and and

703
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: they were doing like eight years on a fucking murder charts,

704
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Then and then it started

705
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: stepping up though, and all of a sudden they started

706
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: getting super.

707
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: Stre Incarceration became a business.

708
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: So now it's like exactly it became it became a

709
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: public company.

710
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, they're publicly traded prisons right now.

711
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: And the only people could trade in it was judges

712
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 5: and prosecutors and police officers.

713
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: So so they wanted a business model a lot of time.

714
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 4: Well, if I'm not mistaken, though, back in that day,

715
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 4: were their police officers involved.

716
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: With I never had.

717
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people think because you know,

718
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 5: I actually testified on some cops.

719
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people.

720
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: Think that they were on my payroll or something like that.

721
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: They weren't on my prayer road.

722
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: No.

723
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: No, these were cops who the city had put together

724
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: in order to bring me down. And they got frustrated

725
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: and they started playing drugs.

726
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: The worst kind of crooked cops like you weren't pay

727
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: They didn't get you.

728
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: They couldn't get me.

729
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: They couldn't get you, so they started to try to

730
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: get you.

731
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: They couldn't get a guy without a high school to ploma,

732
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 5: who had never read a book and didn't read the newspaper.

733
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: It was making more money than they were.

734
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: One day, they weren't patient enough to say, you know

735
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 5: why we keep raiding the houses in there no doping houses.

736
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: Because you're a one step ahead of them.

737
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: I was keeping the doping cars.

738
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 5: You know, I had learned from stealing cars, had taught

739
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 5: me about so I understood that if you put the

740
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 5: dope in the trunk of a car, you could park

741
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 5: the car on the street and nobody would mess with

742
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 5: it more than I.

743
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: Know, what's funny you say that, dude, I just got

744
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: the chills. Man.

745
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: So so when I was I used to sell a

746
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: whole lot of wit, like a lot, a lot, you know.

747
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: And and I used to to have in my trunks

748
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 4: outside the cars. I would put the weed out there,

749
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: thinking that or cash out in there. And I keeps

750
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: a little in the house, you know what I'm saying

751
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: to where if someone came in or whatever, they can

752
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 4: get something on me, like, okay, here's ten twenty racks,

753
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: thank you, you you know, go away. But you know,

754
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: the majority of it was in vehicles outside and I

755
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: and I had alarms on all those vehicles, so if

756
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: the thing went off, I'd be in my house and

757
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: I and you know.

758
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: You could take them.

759
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: But I was all, yeah, but and I would be

760
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: in the perfect years.

761
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 5: And yeah, back in the day the set of arms,

762
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 5: remembery that you could lock your brakes.

763
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, push the whole car.

764
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 5: Push the thing in and the breaks would lock, so

765
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 5: you weren't still in that car.

766
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't going anywhere.

767
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't going anywhere.

768
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: You had the little the what's it called. I almost

769
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: remember what it was. They had the one that did

770
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: the steering wheel, and then the one that did.

771
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: The LifeLock something not lifelong, but you know it.

772
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about.

773
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

774
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, clearly it didn't work with ship because every car

775
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: I put it on I got stolen.

776
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 5: I mean, the cops was a way to do it.

777
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 5: The cops raised my house and the dopest it like

778
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 5: three houses down. Yeah, and they never even go nowhere

779
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: near the car.

780
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, that's amazing.

781
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: You know, they couldn't figure it out.

782
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they were so impatient, you know, they didn't

783
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 5: want to do the investigation.

784
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: They were lazy.

785
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you couldn't say, you know what, we

786
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 5: don't have to watch these guys three or four days

787
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 5: in a row, you know. I mean, it went only

788
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: took that because really with me, and we wuldn't even

789
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 5: taken that because I was selling dope every day.

790
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: But what we did is we changed our hours we

791
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: knew during the middle of the days, you know, the

792
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: cops would be wide awake and active.

793
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 5: So what we used to do is we would wait

794
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 5: till four in the morning, and that's when we'd be

795
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 5: doing our dope deals.

796
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: So when you really did get busted, right, I mean, well,

797
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: let's talk about this. How many times did you get

798
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: busted before you got really busted?

799
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Just once?

800
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 5: Well, I had I had drugs planning on me before, right,

801
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 5: and I went to jail football forty days for that

802
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 5: drugs running.

803
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: They planned two kilos.

804
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: Oh that's that's a lot.

805
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 5: And back then it wasn't nice, nice little bit, but

806
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 5: that that wasn't all that they did, because what they

807
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: were doing was telling the judge and the courts. Other

808
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 5: times they saw me with bags and estimated kilos and

809
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 5: I did kilos, this many kilos in the day, and

810
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 5: and so all that was accumulating the kilos was just

811
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 5: kind of like evidence to say, okay, we'll see he

812
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: really has kilos. But most of the stuff that they

813
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 5: were saying was was was pure bs.

814
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: They were just making their own story and knew who

815
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: you were.

816
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 4: Somebody probably informed them or something, but they didn't have

817
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: anything on you. Because you were smart than that, because

818
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 4: why would you touch it if you have the everybody

819
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 4: else working for you.

820
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 5: And that's what the judge told him too. He told

821
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 5: him exactly that he was like this this particular night

822
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 5: that they give me, I couldn't get any drugs. Yeah,

823
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 5: like I wanted drugs bad, but I couldn't get them.

824
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 5: You know, I was feeding. But the man was like,

825
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 5: so we go play basketball. We finished playing basketball, and

826
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 5: all the fellas ain't making no money today either, So

827
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 5: everybody's at at my place. I got this tire shop,

828
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 5: or I self customed tires and wheels and radios and

829
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 5: all that stuff. So I'm passing by and I got

830
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 5: big glass windows and you can see all the guys

831
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: kneel down. I said, oh, they're in they're shooting dice.

832
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 5: So we pull up going, you know, see what they're doing.

833
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 5: I ain't at the guys a day. And uh so

834
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 5: when I get ready to leave, everybody leave the crap

835
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 5: game and walk me to the car. So the cops

836
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: are watching this night, so they followed me and I

837
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 5: look up and I see a car coming with no

838
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 5: lights on, and I tell my boy, I was like, man,

839
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: the cars coming behind us with no lights, so he

840
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 5: pulled his sporty Fuur magnumaz.

841
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: He's like, man, I'm gonna.

842
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: Give it to him, right, And.

843
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 5: When they pull on the side of us, we saw

844
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: it was the police, the sheriffs, and he was like,

845
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 5: oh ship, that's Tomar. Tomorrow was one who had just

846
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 5: got him a detective. So we got this high speech

847
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 5: chase going. We high speed chasing it through van Is.

848
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: Boulevard just because you have the pistol. Really at that.

849
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: Point, no, no, no, we ain't Crystal. We're gonna be a pistol.

850
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna play.

851
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: Drugs and we already know what they Yeah, they already

852
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: been playing.

853
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,479
Speaker 5: Drugs on like four or five my boys, right, so

854
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 5: so we know they they're gonna play drugs on you.

855
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: You're going to jail tonight.

856
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: The rampart scandal.

857
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: I love how you can tell the story smiling like

858
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: you're smiling ear to ear, like this has not left

859
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: you with this like stain or this bitterness right like.

860
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 5: It was it was it was It was an adventure. Yeah,

861
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 5: you know, I look at it.

862
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: Your story is part of the game. You know when

863
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: you play the game, you know this all this comes

864
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: with the game.

865
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what you're doing.

866
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 5: And I really got lucky. You know, if these guys

867
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 5: wouldn't have done what they did, I probably when the

868
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 5: FIDS came in, I probably would have got caught with

869
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 5: way more five six hundred kilos a week. Wow, Yeah,

870
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 5: well I was already doing thirty fifty oh no, no.

871
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Day a day.

872
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: So were you working with cartels? Were you working with

873
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean.

874
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: Was working with the nigger rocking connections?

875
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: Okay, he bought them all. I mean he literally brought

876
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: up all this.

877
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: You can't get that much.

878
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: Were they were?

879
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: They were part of the CIA.

880
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Conscience was working with the CIA to fight

881
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 5: the world with the Garagua, and.

882
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: They were bringing drugs into America.

883
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: And that's why you were saying back then it was

884
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: a lot more lenient because they were looking the other way.

885
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: Right, it wasn't.

886
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: Leniate, It wasn't lenient. They were harder, but they were

887
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 5: allowing the drugs to come in. Right, they're more lenient

888
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 5: right now?

889
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: Right now?

890
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 5: You know, I see guys that get caught with a

891
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 5: hundred kilos and get a bill. You know, they never

892
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 5: would have gave us a bill. When I got the

893
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: two kilos. They plan on me. I didn't get a

894
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 5: bail my bill. When I finally got a bill, it

895
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 5: was a million bucks eight twenty five you know, a

896
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 5: twenty five men and everything that you put up for

897
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: bill has to go in front of the judge and

898
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 5: has to be verified and tax paper.

899
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Did you get bailed out or no?

900
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: No, I wind up beating the case.

901
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: Oh you did it? And how did you get the case?

902
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: So they were so.

903
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 5: I turned myself in right because my mom she's like, boy,

904
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 5: I'm all over the news, armed and dangerous. They said,

905
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 5: I shot at the cop. Oh wow, yeah, it's just

906
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 5: making up ship what happened. I jumped out of the car.

907
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 5: The car was was going. I'm speeding down the street right.

908
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 5: I jam on the brakes before the car could come

909
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 5: to a stop. I jump out the car and run

910
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 5: and need a car. The car keep rolling.

911
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: He didn't the car for them.

912
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: They wasn't that. They were dumb. Dumb, So the cops

913
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: started shooting at me. Oh wow, so they shoot up

914
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: all the people houses? Oh no way, Yeah, they're not

915
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: shot up in people houses.

916
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: The Yeah, so he was shooting, that's where to shoot back.

917
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, but you had no gunpowder on your hand?

918
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: None? No gun.

919
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 5: Wow, my boy had a gun, but he never shot.

920
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: You know, I never would have let him shoot, and

921
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 5: he wouldn't have shot without me.

922
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: Shoot at him. Yeah. Yeah. So so was he running

923
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: with you? Did he go to the officer?

924
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: No, he he stopped the car.

925
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: He stopped the cars from the running. I had to

926
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: stop the car.

927
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: He stopped the car.

928
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 2: So on the news that night, I'm all on the news.

929
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: We keep all in dangers shot at cops and no, no.

930
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: Because they knew who you were.

931
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they already kne who I was.

932
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: Picture of you up and everything.

933
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: So Mom's called me, you gonna turn your silf in.

934
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: They're gonna kill you. I don't want you see you.

935
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: Did I really see you in jailed?

936
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: And did?

937
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to turn my Is this where the

938
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: freeway moniker comes from with the avatar?

939
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: Like, where did that.

940
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: Not already been freeway before that?

941
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 3: Why because you always read on the freeway or you're

942
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: running from the cops or how that come from?

943
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 5: It came from when when I used to steal cars, Yeah,

944
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 5: steal cars on the side of the freeway after after after, No,

945
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: that was before before my shop, before I had the shop,

946
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 5: I would strip cards.

947
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: Right.

948
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 5: My mom stayed like on a dead end, you know,

949
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 5: the freeways right the house, so you don't really have

950
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: much traffic coming through the street. And so you know,

951
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 5: we take a front end off or take a motor

952
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 5: right there, yeah, right there on the spot, you know, unvoted,

953
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 5: you know, when you're unvoting, and nobody can really tell

954
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 5: what's going on. Once all the boats off, you just

955
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 5: snatched your front end off.

956
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: And drive it down the street.

957
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 5: It So that's how they started calling us freeway boys.

958
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: The guys at the street racers Jake Clayton who uh

959
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 5: was a big time lowrider. But yeah, so so the

960
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 5: cops had never they still had never saw me. So

961
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: I turned myself in. Now they sent me to the

962
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 5: county Yell no bill. The cops come to the county

963
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 5: jail to see me.

964
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: The ones that just the detectives that just shot at you.

965
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, they come to see me, threatening your took me

966
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 5: in the back room, off the record, right and and

967
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 5: interrogating me.

968
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

969
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 5: So when they got ready lead, it was like you

970
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: better not say nothing to your lawyer. And they talked

971
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 5: about my lawyer.

972
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: Your lawyer is a coke head and uh, he can't get.

973
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: You off there, put hands on you, or just strong interrogation.

974
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 5: They just ruughed me up a little bit, you know,

975
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 5: letting you push you in real physical with these foods

976
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: recorded the whole thing.

977
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: Oh wow, they recorded the whole thing.

978
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: That's how you beat the case.

979
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we go to court and next time I

980
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: go to court, I didn't even tell my lawyer yeah

981
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: until we were sitting in the courtroom.

982
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 5: So we sitting in the court room, I was like, yeah, man,

983
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 5: you know them foods came down there and seeing me

984
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 5: like two weeks ago.

985
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: He's like, huh yeah, he said yan, And one of

986
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: them was on the witness stand testifying. He said, yanna.

987
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

988
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 5: You know, I just found out that they came and

989
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 5: see my client. I wasn't and I wasn't notified and

990
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 5: they actually cop that was on the standing. Did you

991
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: guys come and see him? And he's like, oh yeah,

992
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 5: we was down there doing someone else and we just

993
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 5: stopped buying.

994
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 3: Stop to say hi.

995
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: Then you know, he had a lawyer he said, did

996
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: you did you record that that thing? You recalled everything?

997
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, came over where is it?

998
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: And they listened back to the spliced up.

999
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 1: That's how it spliced that thing up. It's mites.

1000
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: There's two minutes of video.

1001
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: Death records that were like that real. Remember that, you know,

1002
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: he gave me a fort with wow.

1003
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: Judge told him to get him out of here. I

1004
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: was out of it. I was out of the countyes, on

1005
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: like twenty minutes. That's like unheard of.

1006
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: You're like, thank god, I listen to Moms because she

1007
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 3: told you herself there right.

1008
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, So at that point you started getting a little

1009
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: you know, knowing that you're hot right clearly then you

1010
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 4: already knew you were hot, but it was getting hotter.

1011
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 5: Well, that's when I moved out of town. Okay, I

1012
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 5: moved to Cincinnati. Then, Okay, I'd already been working in

1013
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: Cincinnati and Saint Louis. I have been working in Texas,

1014
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: but I cut my my cousins off in Texas.

1015
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: We're getting too rough.

1016
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: There was you know, we had some different shits, a

1017
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: different animal boy. You know, you know, you know, I

1018
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: mean like this here.

1019
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 5: I hate when I reave on somebody and then all

1020
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: of a sudden they come to life, and then you know,

1021
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 5: they get a couple million dollars and they'd be like a.

1022
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: Guy who brought you to the dance.

1023
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 3: Speaking a couple of million dollars during this entire time period,

1024
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: did you diversify? You mentioned the tire shop. I love

1025
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 3: talking about money, But were you were you thinking of

1026
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 3: had you seem like a very smart businessman? Were you

1027
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: already thinking about that? I was planning some scenes.

1028
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: I was ahead of the game.

1029
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: I was. I was.

1030
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 5: Same thing I did in the in the in the

1031
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 5: in the coked business, I started to do in real estate.

1032
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 5: I paid a guy to introduce me to a guy

1033
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 5: by the name of Bill Little. Most people never heard

1034
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 5: of him, but he used to own He used to

1035
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 5: be one of the biggest landowners in in downtown LA,

1036
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 5: maybe the biggest landowner in downtown of LA.

1037
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: In California, I think he was second behind like vib

1038
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: I hope with somebody.

1039
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: Wow.

1040
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: So I paid a guy. I think I bought the

1041
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: guy house.

1042
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 5: It was like one hundred and seventy five thousand, uh

1043
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 5: and this was like eighty five eighty six wow, to

1044
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 5: take me to his house and and induce me to him.

1045
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 5: So I had already started buying real estate.

1046
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: Mentors.

1047
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: You bought real estate sources like you did in the

1048
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 3: streets with the cocaine. Like you recognized opportunity and you

1049
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: got yourself in. You bought mentors.

1050
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: But when I meet these guys, when I meet them

1051
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: eight months later, I'm in jail. So I never really

1052
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: got to use the tool, the tool tourist fullest. But

1053
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: I learned enough game that right now today once once,

1054
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: once I get back re established, uh, I'm gonna be

1055
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: a monster in real estate.

1056
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: So so so when when you when you actually you know,

1057
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: went from California to Cincinnati, you know, was it that

1058
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: the Feds were following you or was it that.

1059
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: The local cops that ran me out?

1060
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: The local.

1061
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: But they didn't follow me.

1062
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 5: What happened is is after I got out of prison,

1063
00:45:55,239 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 5: I had drugs actually planning on you.

1064
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: Eight ball shooting at you.

1065
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 2: I shot at them.

1066
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big game on.

1067
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 5: So I was like, it makes sense to stay here

1068
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 5: getting down with these guys just mad at you. Why

1069
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 5: not go somewhere with the drugs. At that time in Cincinnati,

1070
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 5: Keilo was sixty four thousand.

1071
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: And you already had clients there.

1072
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 5: I already had clients, and I was getting kilos twelve.

1073
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: You knew how to get it.

1074
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 2: There eleven ten.

1075
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, so if I took a kilo to Cincinnati, I

1076
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 5: make fifty thousand profit. Wow, even though they may not

1077
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 5: buy one hundred kilos in one day like they was

1078
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 5: doing here. So when I went to when I went

1079
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 5: to Cincinnati, Uh, when I really had it cracking, I

1080
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 5: was doing about fifty kilos a day, I mean a

1081
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: month a month, my bad month, I was doing about

1082
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: I was doing about fifty key grew and I was

1083
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 5: making about twenty thousand.

1084
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: So I was doing a smaller mount. I was doing

1085
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: a smaller amount of drugs, but I made a lot

1086
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: of money. Yeah, you know from California. I was going

1087
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: to make.

1088
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: Right, that's what you had.

1089
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Natty. Now I'm making a great prop

1090
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: and you know, to me to the kios and I

1091
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 2: got work.

1092
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: Through that should change my name. We're just playing, you

1093
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: know with that.

1094
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: You know, so so now you know Now I'm thinking,

1095
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, I want to know what it was and

1096
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: how you got busted in Cincinnati? Is canna start going

1097
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: to one went when come back? More for us.

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Speaker 3: For more information, check out the website Charmerswollness dot com

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00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: or please call him direct two one four four four

1114
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Speaker 3: six fifty three hundred. I care with my man, Ricky.

1115
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 3: You had one more question for him, and we're gonna

1116
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 3: go in a different direction here. But man, I got

1117
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 3: so many questions. Now, this is one of the coolest

1118
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 3: interviews I've done.

1119
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that. Like, so, how did you

1120
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: get busted? You know what I mean? Like in Cincinnati?

1121
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 3: Like what was like they followed you from La No,

1122
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: it was straight straight through.

1123
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: I had.

1124
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 5: My suppliers had had went overseas so they wasn't working.

1125
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 5: So I fly out to California and I grabbed nine

1126
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 5: kilos and I have a guy, well I had more

1127
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 5: than nine, but I had each guy getting on the

1128
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 5: bus with nine kilos at the time. This one guy

1129
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 5: got on the bus and somebody was smoking weed on

1130
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 5: the bus. So the cops discovered the nine kilos and

1131
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 5: my guy, who was carrying him, he jumped off the

1132
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 5: bus and got away, but he never contacted us and

1133
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 5: told us that the cops had confiscated the kilos. So

1134
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 5: the time that the bus was supposed to get there,

1135
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 5: I was going to pick him up. So I go

1136
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 5: to the bus station and it just so happened my

1137
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: beaper falls off, so I don't go inside. But my

1138
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 5: other guy walks inside the bus station and he was

1139
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 5: asking where the bus from l A was coming coming

1140
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 5: in and where was it at, and the Feds grabbed me.

1141
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: So I walk in the door and I see the

1142
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: Feds got him surrounded. I took off.

1143
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: He just walked away and burned out.

1144
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: I burned out. So you know, I do everything I

1145
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: can to keep my man.

1146
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: And this it was.

1147
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: It was really bizarre to me because this guy never

1148
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 2: should have went to prison.

1149
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 5: He never saw the bag. He didn't know what the

1150
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 5: bag looked like. The only thing he knew was that

1151
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 5: the guy was coming in from l A. So they

1152
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 5: said that he inquired about the bag and was total bullshit.

1153
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: You know, that was a fluke.

1154
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 5: So they were able to pin him to me because

1155
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 5: he was from my neighborhood. And you know how it's

1156
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 5: like they do with gangs, like if you.

1157
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: Grew up in this area, you with this association.

1158
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is your Yeah, you know you live on

1159
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 4: the West side from the you know exactly the Crimpshall team,

1160
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 4: you know, like they.

1161
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 3: Know, probably Cincinnati cops. It was like a Cincinnati cops.

1162
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: It was probably like a badge of honor to nail

1163
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: somebody from l A.

1164
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 5: I imagine where the sheriffs came down after they found

1165
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 5: out he was from la the ones who planned the drugs,

1166
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 5: they brought him down. So and then they they tended

1167
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 5: the case in Cincinnati. Okay, Cincinnati would have really they

1168
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 5: could have get I was doing fifty kilos a month.

1169
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 5: My diatman said fifty kilos and more month. That's what

1170
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 5: it said on my more. Yeah, fifty or more later.

1171
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 5: But they knew I was.

1172
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,839
Speaker 2: Doing at least fifty. I just went with their number.

1173
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that part.

1174
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 5: So after I couldn't get him out of jail, you know,

1175
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 5: I spent a lot of money trying to keep him

1176
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 5: out of jail. He went to jail, and next thing

1177
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 5: I know, uh, they inded of me. I had a

1178
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 5: secret indictment, okay, and they eventually caught me.

1179
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Now we're at the federal level.

1180
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fit and the Feds.

1181
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: Actually, he'll take you down then. Yeah.

1182
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: Never the state, I've never Uh my Laurie was always

1183
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 2: able to beat the state.

1184
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then how on on on on the federal level.

1185
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 4: You know, did you see a lot of that collapsing

1186
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 4: because of the cartels and everybody else that was involved

1187
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: that you were you a part of that that case

1188
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 4: when they all kind of got the contras got you know, yeah,

1189
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: I was.

1190
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: I was a center that okay.

1191
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it was my story that Gary Webb from

1192
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 5: the Center's a Mercury by Yeah. Uh, he linked me

1193
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 5: in and my drug supplier who also was my informant. Right,

1194
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 5: he put us together, gotcha, And that's when you know,

1195
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 5: all hell broke loose. You know, my whole life changed.

1196
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 5: You know, I was in front of cameras every day,

1197
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 5: and Maxie Waters in jail.

1198
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: I was in jail.

1199
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1200
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: They were just showing up with cameras at you every day.

1201
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 2: Every day, every day. This was before U nine eleven.

1202
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 5: You know, after nine eleven, they stopped letting the news

1203
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 5: media talk to the inmates. Like right now, it's hard

1204
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 5: for a news reporter to talk to an inmate. But

1205
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 5: at that time, they gave you total access to the media.

1206
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 5: Maxiine workers came down to see me, the oy G

1207
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 5: from c i A. I mean, everybody was coming down.

1208
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 5: I mean it was it was all over the news.

1209
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

1210
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: It was crazy because they're also building a name off you,

1211
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: I mean by aligning themselves with you, they're also kind

1212
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 3: of getting notoriety.

1213
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 5: But they was trying to clear you know, the c

1214
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 5: IA was trying to clear their name. They didn't want

1215
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 5: to be known as drug dealers. You know, they were

1216
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 5: supposed to keep drugs out of.

1217
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: The country, but now they were.

1218
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: They were right in the middle of it.

1219
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah they turned the blind eye. Oh you go ahead,

1220
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: I didn't see that.

1221
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were getting paid.

1222
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: They were getting paid. Yeah, well you know Bush.

1223
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 5: I mean this went all the way up to the

1224
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 5: White House, Bush, Reagan, Bush and Reagan was also implemented.

1225
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 5: And remember Ali North, Yeah the fifth and say the

1226
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 5: book stops for him. You know you ain't going no

1227
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 5: higher to me.

1228
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 3: I think a lot of the younger generation has no

1229
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 3: idea about this gap of American drug history, whether it's

1230
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 3: the around Contra affair Alie North, and then they're the

1231
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: incarceration system that got developed after that where it became

1232
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 3: a business. And that's a whole other conversation. I'm sure

1233
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: you can speak to.

1234
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: That absolutely for sure. I was there when Unicorp you

1235
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: know you lived it.

1236
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 5: Give guys twenty five an hour to do jobs that

1237
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 5: out here to get you know, thirty forty an hour to.

1238
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 3: Do Wow, dude, this is all like the negative shit

1239
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: and the bad part. And I mean we could talk

1240
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: about this for years, but I am so excited to

1241
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 3: hear about how you now have turned this chapter and

1242
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 3: one of my mentors always told me when I had

1243
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: my you know, you don't know my story, but I

1244
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 3: you know, my partner went to prison. I helped put

1245
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: him in prison for robbing people in the Ponzi scheme.

1246
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 3: And to me that was like, you're robbing little old ladies.

1247
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 3: And when I hit rock bottom because I lost everything,

1248
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: my mentor said, listen, man, at least you're not in prison.

1249
00:54:59,239 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: You know, I ageil.

1250
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: I've been in prison twice. I'm a double phone. And

1251
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: now I got all these cars and I go all this,

1252
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: what's your fucking excuse? And I was like, all right,

1253
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: like double fellon. Guy's got a life, and now he's

1254
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 3: got a massive personal development story and massive you know,

1255
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 3: uh public speaking. Except all the stuff that I read

1256
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 3: about you, I want to hear about that on what

1257
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 3: you're doing to now, you know, spread the story. Not

1258
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: from an entertainment value, but you're empowering kids to hear

1259
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: the story. Man be like, man, if this guy can

1260
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: do it, I can without all that pain.

1261
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: Well, I felt it was. It was so important, you know,

1262
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: for people to know that.

1263
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 5: The same energies, techniques, strategies that we use in the

1264
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 5: streets can be using any field that you go into,

1265
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 5: you know. And and one of my goals now is

1266
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 5: to demonstrate just how many different businesses that using these

1267
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 5: same strategies we can run, you know. And I've spoke

1268
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 5: with so many juvenile intentions is around around the country.

1269
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 5: Last year, I spoke at uh downtown l A. What's

1270
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 5: what's the name of that? Did juve and I Hall

1271
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 5: I did. I did their graduation. I was a keynote

1272
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 5: speaker for their graduation.

1273
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: Did you ever spend time there? Or it was just

1274
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 3: something that because.

1275
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 5: It was just something that they called me and asked me,

1276
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 5: and they thought that it would be good for the

1277
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 5: kids to hear. The kids can some of them are.

1278
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: Drug drug dealers. Some of them, you know, have had

1279
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: criminal backgrounds in one of their parents. So they want

1280
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: to relate to some of the not to somebody that

1281
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: they ain't never seen, nothing like that.

1282
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, the guy coming there with a suit, he went

1283
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 5: to college. You ain't from us, you don't know, you

1284
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 5: don't know what it's like.

1285
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: But somebody like me who couldn't read, Yeah, they get it.

1286
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 2: They have and I can tell too, you know, like

1287
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: I love.

1288
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 5: I don't know why they haven't hired me to go

1289
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 5: from prison to prison and jail to jail, and and

1290
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 5: and talk to these guys because a lot of these

1291
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 5: guys read the newspapers and they hear what I'm out

1292
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 5: here doing, and they would like to implement the same strategy.

1293
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm too cynical, but I think there there's a

1294
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: reason for that, because there's profit and keep people, you know,

1295
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: keeping people incarcerated, and I think I think they don't

1296
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: want to spread positivity in that system. It's not they

1297
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: call it correction facilities. They're not fucking correcting anything. It's

1298
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 3: gladiator school. They're coming out out stronger with more connections,

1299
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: coming out right.

1300
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 5: Absolutely put you in there, you know, you in there

1301
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 5: with the carteil and said they're coming out with the

1302
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 5: bigger rolodex right exactly.

1303
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: You also got something that was that Esquire magazine that

1304
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:37,959
Speaker 3: I was reading about.

1305
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, eight off anniversary to be to be exact,

1306
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 5: they did a feature story on me and said that

1307
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 5: my story was.

1308
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: The biggest story for the past eighty years.

1309
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: Man. Congratulations, Man, that's so huge. I did that.

1310
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 5: And then you know, we had the documentary that was

1311
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 5: on Netflix. How what was that called Cracking the System?

1312
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 5: Freeway Cracking the System and in my book you know.

1313
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: You know that was on there for a couple of years, right,

1314
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 3: like Netflix kept out of rotation for a minute.

1315
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1316
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 5: I was on the front page for a year and

1317
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 5: a half every time they were on Netflix. You see

1318
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 5: my ugly face.

1319
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1320
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: So what was the name of that one again?

1321
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: Freeway Cracking the System?

1322
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: And I think you mentioned something else, Oh your two

1323
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 3: books books?

1324
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 5: I got Freeway Free, Ricky rossun Told autobiography, which is

1325
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 5: done super should be on everybody's best sellers list. I

1326
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 5: don't I don't know why. Eli Times finally finally did

1327
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 5: a story around last year.

1328
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1329
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Speaker 2: They said they read like a Spasacean movie.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And then I got to twenty one Keys to Success,

1332
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 5: and that's about my first six months out of prison,

1333
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 5: you know, the things that I had to go through,

1334
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 5: uh to get to where I am now. I just

1335
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 5: shot another documentary with v H one should be coming

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00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 5: out soon.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the date.

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00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 5: We're in pre production right now for the motion picture.

1339
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, we're going with the producers and the directors.

1340
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 5: Tonight they're doing Kevin Hart released for one of his

1341
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 5: new movies.

1342
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: Who's playing you? In the feature as that you're not

1343
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: playing yourself.

1344
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to be a movie star. I'm hoping.

1345
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 5: We haven't picked the actor yet, but I'm hoping I

1346
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 5: can get Childish Gambino too.

1347
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: Okay, who's your backup if that doesn't work?

1348
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart?

1349
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: Kevin. We talked about it before, about him playing.

1350
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: Kevin and making shitty tennis player.

1351
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: Though sure makes me look bad.

1352
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm taller than that.

1353
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got buy a few feet so that's in

1354
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: pre production right now.

1355
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 2: You're ready to go, Michael, Mike Hold is the director. Now,

1356
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: Mike Hold the director a couple of months back. What

1357
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: else I got going?

1358
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 5: The dispensary, Yeah, the dispensary Las Kingpin. You only look

1359
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 5: out for that. We're hoping in the next three maybe

1360
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 5: four weeks and had it open.

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00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: Where is that going to be? Uh?

1362
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 2: Some valley okay by brank Airport.

1363
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you get did you get a license in

1364
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: your name?

1365
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 5: Was it the it's my name I went on as

1366
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 5: social equity. Did you I spoke to city council.

1367
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: You know miss Brown? You know miss Brown?

1368
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 4: Uh?

1369
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: What's your name? Brown? Doctor Boxer? Yeah?

1370
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do know, doctor.

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01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: I know doctor she's good people. I like that.

1372
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1373
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 5: I spoke uh downtown l A for why they should

1374
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 5: allow convicted felons to get a license, and also up

1375
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 5: in Oakland to uh. I can't think of her name,

1376
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 5: but she was the state representative. I spoke to her

1377
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 5: about why convicted felons should be allowed to get in

1378
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 5: this business. You know, I'm like, if it wasn't for us,

1379
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 5: it wouldn't be legal right now.

1380
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, when is that opening or is it already opening.

1381
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: We're hoping to be opening like three to four weeks

1382
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: past everything. We got our state licensed city license. We

1383
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: just passed the fire department. Uh, so we're hoping here

1384
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: in the next few weeks to get that up and going.

1385
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: If you had one message to somebody listening right now,

1386
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: who's on the edge, you know, they're moving some weight

1387
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 3: and they're they're on they're on the illegal side. If

1388
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: you will, is there a message that you're looking at them,

1389
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 3: looking at yourself that you would kind of deliver to

1390
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: them hard to heart.

1391
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 5: Well, you know, the same energies, the same efforts that

1392
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 5: we put into the illegal side. If we put that

1393
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 5: same energy and effort into the legal side, we have

1394
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,959
Speaker 5: some of the same results. You know, sometimes a little

1395
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 5: it's a little harder with with with the legal side,

1396
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 5: because they put you through you know, these guys put

1397
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 5: you through the through the through the ringer. And that's

1398
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 5: why the black market, you know, cannabis is still thriving,

1399
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 5: and in so many other drugs.

1400
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 4: My dad always told me that it takes the same

1401
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 4: amount of energy it is to do it wrong, is

1402
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 4: it does do it right, exactly right. And I believe that,

1403
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 4: you know. And I didn't believe that when I was young.

1404
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: I was like, nah, but you know, and and and

1405
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 4: it's true. It's like it just focused on doing it

1406
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 4: the right way, and it's the same.

1407
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: Amount of energy, you know, you know what I mean.

1408
01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: You know, you focus on the wrong things, you're gonna

1409
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: get dude.

1410
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 3: The biggest thing that strikes me about this interview, man,

1411
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: is like, I've met a lot of people that have

1412
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: gone through shit trials, tribulations to have drugs planted on

1413
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: you by police officers, right, And I want to know

1414
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 3: why you don't have a chip on your shoulder. You

1415
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 3: see so many people using that as an excuse why

1416
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: they want to continue living wrong or they want to

1417
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 3: still fuck with the police for you, you kind of

1418
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: like you still smile through all of this, you've lived it.

1419
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 3: But for somebody that's gone through shit, you're like, it

1420
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 3: seems like you've kind of overcome something and you've seen

1421
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: a light. What is it about your story that makes

1422
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 3: you kind of so positive about it?

1423
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 5: Well, you know, if somebody does something to you, you

1424
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 5: may still be mad. But they did and they're going

1425
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 5: on about their business. Now you still run around mad

1426
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 5: and they don't pay it no mind. They forgot So

1427
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 5: I look at it.

1428
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 2: It's better to give and move on. Calle the future.

1429
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 5: I'm more of a future guy, you know, Like people

1430
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 5: ask me what happened last week. I don't know what

1431
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 5: happened last week, but I can tell you what's gonna happen.

1432
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: The next week. Yeah, I'm really good at it.

1433
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: I love that output, man, And it's not even about politics,

1434
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 3: but I think that lately that's that victim mentality that

1435
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 3: it's almost like they're giving you these kids like you're

1436
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: a victim.

1437
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: You're a victim.

1438
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: But a lot of people that are coming up like

1439
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 3: we all did, like we didn't have silver spoons in

1440
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 3: our mouths, right, but to come out and to kind

1441
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 3: of say you know what, fuck it.

1442
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: It's in the past.

1443
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: I fucked over, but I'm going to look forward to

1444
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 3: the future, and I have all these opportunities and possibilities.

1445
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 5: A lot of times you got to say, I fucked

1446
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 5: myself the personal responsibility, I put myself in a situation.

1447
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 5: But that to happen to me, Yeah, yeah, you know,

1448
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 5: because a lot of times we allow people, you know,

1449
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 5: even like with the guy who set me up, I

1450
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 5: understand that he couldn't have set me up.

1451
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: If I didn't take a good part.

1452
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't take a bait. He couldn't have set

1453
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 2: me up.

1454
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to.

1455
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: I had the option to say no right and walk away,

1456
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: but I didn't.

1457
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 3: You baked a lifetime of good karma, man coming up,

1458
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: And I think I think that what's happening to you

1459
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 3: right now with the movies and the fun stuff. Now

1460
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 3: that books the movies, and it's fun of being on stage.

1461
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: So much fun, so good. I've been. I've been like

1462
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: six cities in the past week and a half.

1463
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: Well, let's let's let's make it more. You know, I

1464
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 3: got a couple of events coming up that I'm producing.

1465
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 3: Person the Blue is going to be speaking at them.

1466
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: I personally, I'm telling you right now, I would love

1467
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 3: to be honored either say to you speak out to

1468
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 3: our people business standpoint, from a money standpoint, from just

1469
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: personal development. I think everybody right now, especially into this

1470
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 3: next twelve months, it's going to be a struggle season.

1471
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 3: You know, people are gonna be a hurst financial out here,

1472
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: and there's there's the easy races, and there's ways to

1473
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 3: to kind of, you know, do things legitimately. If people

1474
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: want to come find you, support you outside of the

1475
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 3: dispensary and the movies and the books. What's the best

1476
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 3: way to find you on socials? Uh, they can give

1477
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 3: me a freeway Ricky Ross on Facebook and freeway Rick

1478
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 3: on Instagram and freeway Rick on Twitter. And if you're

1479
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: looking for booking, Yeah, absolutely, you got a great rep

1480
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 3: that kind of helped you to find you and break you. Guys,

1481
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 3: reach out to her her Instagram as a n G

1482
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 3: E E, S M, A L t Z or just yeah, man,

1483
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: I'll put you in touch because my eyes can't read

1484
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: that well. But seven one four five she did say

1485
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: that I could give her number out seven one four

1486
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 3: two five one seventeen fifty two.

1487
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? They missed it because you want here.

1488
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 3: Seven one fifty two. But man, I I can't. This

1489
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 3: is one of the best interviews I've done. I'm super excited.

1490
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 4: Ablue what you got to add on, you know, I

1491
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 4: just I just want to say, man, thank you for

1492
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 4: taking the time to share your story, you know, because

1493
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 4: you know it isn't it about us.

1494
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: It's about the pew that we touched through our platform,

1495
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: like we appreciate it. You know.

1496
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 4: This is what we do for a living, and you

1497
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 4: know it too. It's just what you do, you know,

1498
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 4: and when you live that certain way. It's just nice

1499
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 4: to be able to get it out to so many people.

1500
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 4: Because again, if just one person here's this story and goes, man,

1501
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 4: I'm living that way right now, and I could I

1502
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 4: could change your or I could find it, you know,

1503
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 4: do it the right way instead of the wrong way.

1504
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 4: I find that one message or or they they're in

1505
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 4: a position where they don't have to take de bait

1506
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 4: right now because they're like, you know what I might.

1507
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: I heard that.

1508
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 2: I'm giving no time and the vulnerability, man.

1509
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 3: The authenticity is there. It's just it's just bores right

1510
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 3: for you.

1511
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: Man, It's something that.

1512
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 3: There's a reason you're being successful on stage, in the

1513
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 3: books and anything else that we forgot man.

1514
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: That you want to resume money and I just had

1515
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: a good time with you guys today.

1516
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 3: You're coming back.

1517
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: Man, You're coming back.

1518
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get you on my show anything else.

1519
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm so busy.

1520
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 2: I'm believing.

1521
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: How busy are you? You're gonna be a regular here.

1522
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: I could tell I'm with you.

1523
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: I like you said, it's like I made it here.

1524
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 4: It was you know, it's funny once you come here

1525
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 4: on family. So we have some nice events and fun

1526
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 4: fun times. Well this way we can walk them out.

1527
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 4: Thank you for being on Cannabis Talk one on one.

1528
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure.

1529
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: Man. Oh thank you so much.

1530
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: But there it is. Guys, It's Cannabis Talk one on one.

1531
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: And remember this, if no one else loves you, we do.

1532
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,760
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01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,360
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1534
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:07,280
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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,320
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