1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that brings you 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium or wherever we happen to be broadcasting from, 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: which in the last year is a total crapshoot. You 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: never know where we are. Johnny could be in Galveston, 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: I could be in Paris. I'm not in Paris. It's 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio Studio and it's mobile. Ever since 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty March approximately, we've been mobile. We've been everywhere, 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: sometimes in the building, sometimes not, but we always get 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: you in touch with your Houston Texans. So it's Mark Vandermer, 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: John Harris, Johnny, how's it going. I'm doing well. I 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: am not in Galveston. Sadly, I would on a day 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: like we've had today, would have been nice to be 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: down at the beach. But oh yeah, oh yeah, and 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, the poor people in Galveston enough to deal 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: with hurricanes and flooding all the time, and then last 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: week all the yeah yeah, I mean snow at the 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: snow at the beach. I will say it is very, 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: very cool, but when it completely shuts down the entire location, 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: oh no, no boy, no bueno whatsoever. That's tough. Johnny 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: a few things to get to. Let's start here. Now, 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: we will get to some of the moves made today, 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: nothing earth shattering, but certainly of note. But I wanted 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: to start here because I think this is one of 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: the more interesting underdiscussed elements of this offseason and the 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: acquisition of Nick Casserio as the general manager. We talked 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: about it a bit, and it's been mentioned a few times, 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: but obviously so many big issues surrounding the NFL and 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: this team that it doesn't get discussed much. But Casserio 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: wearing a headset during games. I think this is really 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: interesting stuff. Now, I'm not saying that this should be 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: the lead headline involving your Houston Texans every time they're 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: discussed nationally or elsewhere, but for us here we get 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: into the nitty gritty on this particular program, and I 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: think that Nick wearing the headset in a Patriot context 35 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: is highly notable because yeah, Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels 36 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: and you know, they deem it very necessary and worthwhile. 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: So and I didn't get into this with him last time, 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: or anytime I've talked to him, because there have been 39 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: so many other things to discuss. But next time you 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: can bet I'm gonna ask him what are you saying? 41 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: And what are you gonna do here? What's gonna be 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: like here? And I want to ask David Culley as 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: well what his expectations are with Casserio on the headset 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: during games? That is gonna be cool? Your thoughts? Yeah, 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: I think, well, there are a number of things that 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: Nick's gonna have to try and figure out for himself. 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Is the first time, first time, full full GM, Yeah, spot, 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to figure out, Okay, responsibilities on game day? 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: How do they change for me? How do they change? Are? 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: What are things that I'm gonna have to do? Can 51 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: I be on it? Can I be on a headset? 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Can I be discussing situations? Can we be discussing things 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: that we talked about during the week and then have 54 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: to handle something that comes up? Is there? What's what 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: are those game day responsibilities? But yeah, they figured it 56 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: out obviously In New England, Bill Belichick coach the team 57 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: and obviously made the final final call. The next person 58 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: was Nick Kissaria, and he was on a headset. And look, 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm always of a belief that if you have I 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: don't really I don't know, maybe I was. I was 61 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: I should have been a Patriot maybe in some sense, 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: because I've never really cared about titles, like what's your title? 63 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: What do you It's just about how much you can do. 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: And if you can be on a headset and you 65 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: can decipher the game and you're great an evaluation, so 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: be it. If you get it all in one package, great, 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: make sure you maximize that. Now, if something is missing 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: or there's something lacking because you know he's on a 69 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: headset and something's not getting attention paid to it, like 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: maybe it should be, then okay, there's a consideration to 71 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: be there. I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever. If Nick 72 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: ends up being on a set smart football people always 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: help as simple as that. If he knows what he's doing, 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: I've got no problem with it, none whatsoever. And I 75 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: know a lot of people were like, well, you know, 76 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: a GM should do this, and hey, coach should do that, 77 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: and it's like to me, that's where the Patriots did 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: have the right attitude about it. In some sense, it's like, well, 79 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: why why pigeonhole a guy into doing just one thing 80 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: when he can do three and can do three very well, 81 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: so what why do that? Why just do one thing 82 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: because that's what the title says to do. And I 83 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: think that's if they've gotten one thing right in all 84 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: the years they've done things, I think that's it. So 85 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: from that perspective, man, if you can help out in 86 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, put a headset on let's 87 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: let's rock and roll. It doesn't matter what the what 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: the title is. And I think that's what happens a 89 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: lot of times. And I've had these conversations with people 90 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: over the years, and you know, but the one that 91 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: comes to mind most was Lonnie Johnson, and I kept 92 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: saying that two people. I'm like, look, Lonnie's a safety. 93 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Lonnie's a safety. He probably he needs to play safety. 94 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: It's good he can play corner, but he's a safety. 95 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: And everyone's like, no, the roster says he's a corner. 96 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: He's a corner. Like, okay, you gotta look beyond that 97 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. Lonnie can do a lot more than 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: just play corner. He could play He needs to be 99 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: playing safety. He can play both if you need to 100 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: play both. He just can't get locked into what a 101 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: title says. And yeah, Nick is the GM and the 102 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: buck stops with him. From that perspective. But as soon 103 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: as he can figure out all right, during a game, 104 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: I have these responsibilities, I still can be on a 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: headset and help in some way, shape or form, then 106 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: he needs to be and I hope that he is well. 107 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: He was with McDaniels for a long time in New England. 108 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: Obviously McDaniels had the year or so coaching with the 109 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: Broncos a couple of years. But when he got back, 110 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it started before that, and 111 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: those guys went to the same school and everything. They 112 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: could probably finish each other's sentences. So there's an forrmous 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: amount of trust. And look, we don't do it the 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: same way. You know, I have you in my head 115 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: set during a broadcast, right, And apparently Cassio ben Voland 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: did a nice job in the Boston Club talking about 117 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: some of the things that are discussed, and among them, 118 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: Cassario is giving simple and O'Brien used to talk about 119 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: this too. You need somebody to tell you hash marking 120 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: down and distance because at field level it's hard to 121 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: exactly see, you know, third and four can look like 122 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: third and six sometimes and that's going to result in 123 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: maybe a very different play call or third and three, 124 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: third and two versus a third and five. And if 125 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: you're at the wrong angle, and even I get that 126 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: up in the booths sometimes and you help me out 127 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: with that, it could be difficult. So just ball location 128 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: is one thing, but I'm wondering if it goes deeper 129 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: than that. And this is something that I could not 130 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: find relative to anything written about it. And I'd love 131 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: to know if it's hey time remaining, timeouts, two minute 132 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: warning approaching? Do you want to call the time out? Now? Wait? 133 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: You know what's the situation? Are you up? Are you down? 134 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: Do you need the ball? Those kinds of things? Is 135 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: he going to be helpful to David Culley this way? 136 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: And there was more to it than that. Not only 137 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: was Casserio communicating with the OC Josh McDaniels, but he 138 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: had two offensive assistance communicating with him with other information 139 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: on personnel on defensive groupings to deal with. It was 140 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: very much an offensive related thing that Cassio was doing, 141 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: according to reports. Now maybe it went beyond that and 142 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: to your point about the GM, and you know you 143 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: need to be doing other things. Look, we've seen the 144 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: GM sitting in the boot in the box with the mcnairs. 145 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: We've seen the GM, like Brian Gaine upstairs in a 146 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: press box because he just wanted to concentrate a little 147 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: bit more and not get into a conversation or whatever 148 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: about what was going on. I can't speak for him, 149 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: but maybe it was something to do with that. And 150 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: then O'Brien was the GM and he's on the field. 151 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: Charlie Charlie casually was in the box with the mcnairs, 152 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: and so was Rick Smith. So I just think that 153 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: if you're able to be a GM and be in 154 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: the box with the owners, you're probably able to do 155 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: some other things as well. And maybe, like you said, 156 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: if you can be helpful, do it. But I'm atreagued 157 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: by it because if I'm David Culley, I want all 158 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: the help I can get. He's got Pam Hamilton as 159 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach reportedly, who can help out in a 160 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: variety of ways. It's been an Oc Andrew Luxoc's seen 161 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. He's been a lot of places. 162 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: Was just with Herbert last year. You know Tim Kelly, 163 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and you know you talk about titles and they haven't 164 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: released these titles. And I can tell you right now 165 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: just being brutally honest. I'm not exactly sure how they're 166 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: going to define everything we assume we know in some 167 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: cases or the media does. But I still think there's 168 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: some flexibility here. And even as they announced those titles, 169 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: you pointed it out, Hey, just because you have a 170 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: title doesn't mean you're gonna be all that and just that. 171 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: And maybe the Lions are blurry in a good way, 172 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're all able to help each other 173 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: in ways that we don't really know yet. Yeah. Absolutely, 174 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: And that's you know, trying to trying to figure out what, 175 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, Hey, what does what does this guy do? 176 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: What does that guy do? As long as the roles 177 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: are defined for the people that matter on game day 178 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: and like, hey, you're gonna be doing this and that, 179 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: then I have a problem with with any of that. 180 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: To your point earlier, you know about David Kelly, you know, 181 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: have you know, people helping out with you know, situations 182 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. As long as you have somebody 183 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: that is in your ear that you trust, and that's 184 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: that could take some time, and I can imagine that. 185 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, just thinking back to New England, he had 186 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: had Nick in his ear for so long that he 187 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: just got accustomed to it, and he, like I to you, 188 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: you get accustomed to hear in my nonsense in your ears. 189 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: You're you're used to it. And so there's gonna be 190 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: some stuff that if it's somebody, you know, if it 191 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: was somebody completely different, you might not get the same thing, like, hey, 192 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: I need this, you know Johnny would give me that. Well, 193 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's probably the way that Josh McGinnis looked 194 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: at it, like, hey, Nick knows what I want. I 195 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: don't have to explain it to him. He can tell 196 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: me what's going on. And so there was probably this 197 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: level of comfort there. So there's gonna have to be 198 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: a level of comfort in certain situations. I know when 199 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, way back when, when I had a coach 200 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: up in the booth, and it took me a little 201 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: while to get comfortable with him, but once I did, 202 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: he was the only person I wanted to talk to 203 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: me at any point. There was my guy on the sidelines, 204 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: and then there was Mike my head or my coach 205 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: up in the box. That was it. Those are the 206 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: only people that I wanted to talk to, and that 207 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: was it, because I just felt comfortable that way, and 208 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: then the more voices that got in my ears, it 209 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: just made it that much more difficult. So I got 210 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: comfortable with Mike, and Mike would tell me, coach, you're 211 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, you got this situation, you got this coach 212 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: think about this play. But I got comfortable with that, 213 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing for coaches. They're gonna 214 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: have to get comfortable with that and they'll figure it 215 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: all out. And I hope that Nick is a part 216 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: of that, because when you have an intelligent football guy 217 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: anywhere in your building, you use him or her depending 218 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter you whether whether you have that person, 219 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: use that person. That's the way I look at And 220 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: if Nick is somebody I can say, hey, look they're 221 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: playing this coverage and we can do this and that's 222 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: something that helps us win a game, then yeah, he 223 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: needs to be on the headphones. He needs to be 224 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: on the headset. So I'm with you. I can't wait 225 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: to see what he has to say about that. And 226 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a I think he's gonna 227 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: be a part of it. I hope he's a part 228 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: of it. You know, it seems like it was this 229 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: way in New England, he's sort of a de facto 230 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: member of the coaching staff. I don't think that's going 231 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: to change here, just a hunch. We'll find out more 232 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: as things move on. All right, let's transition here. Not 233 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: every day, but most days. We've been doing a position 234 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: group of where we stand now, taking inventory, we call it, 235 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: and today it's going to be the running backs now inventory, 236 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: meaning here we are as the team has not begun 237 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: free agency, they've started to make some moves and their 238 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: reports earlier today Buddy how Re up for a year. 239 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: So you know, as we look at the running backs, Johnny, 240 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: he's one of them. We know he's a special teams specialist. 241 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: We also saw the report about Dontrell Hilliard back, which 242 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: is nice restricted free agent coming in to the offseason. 243 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if the answer to all their issues 244 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: has been addressed yet, but we'll see. David Johnson is 245 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: still under contract, Duke Johnson's still under contract. But Johnny, 246 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: you get the feeling at the running back position, something's 247 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: gonna happen, draft, free agency, something somewhere. I doubt it's 248 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: Status Crow as far as who's in the stable after 249 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: Labor Day and way before Labor Day, for that matter. 250 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean draft, I'll say, you know, May fifteenth of 251 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: the latest, they're gonna do something here. There's gonna be 252 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: some more clear cut definition as to who the star 253 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: ball carrier carriers will be, no doubt. And from a 254 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: free agent standpoint, you know, I don't think anybody's gonna 255 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: break the bank for any running back free agents. I've 256 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: sort of over the last couple of years, I don't 257 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: say changed my outlook on running backs, but I kind 258 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: of changed my look on running backs. And that is, 259 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: you know, you look around the league and you see 260 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: how teams are doing it, and there are very few teams, 261 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: not very few there. There are handful of teams that 262 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: have just a bona five bell cow. That's the guy 263 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey and Carolina, Derrick Henry and Tennessee those two 264 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: come mind. You'll say Quan when he's healthy. You know, 265 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: Zeke down in Dallas. But most groups, most running back 266 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: groups are that they're groups. They're running back by committee. 267 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: They drive fantasy players nuts. But you think back to 268 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers two years ago, yeah, two seasons ago, 269 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: twenty nineteenth season, Raheem moster you know comes out of it, 270 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere. They had the running back from 271 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson from the North Texas. They just had a 272 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: gaggle of backs and they were getting banged up, so 273 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: they throw another one in there. Hey, Tevin Coleman's in 274 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: the mix, throw him in there. And they just created 275 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: this bullid base of running backs that ended up being 276 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: pretty are good. Then when they got to the playoffs, 277 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: then it was like, okay, like the Bucks did, and 278 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: that was out of injuries, and it was a little 279 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: bit with San Francisco too, But in San Francisco they 280 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: kind of Keevin Coleman got banged up, so it became 281 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: kind of the Rohee Moshart show. I don't mind that 282 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs because you kind of ride the hot hand. 283 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: It's like the Buccaneers did with Leonard Frenette. He got 284 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: the hot hand in the playoffs, We're gonna ride him. 285 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: And that's that's fine. Sixteen now, seventeen game season, I 286 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: think it's too tough to do that. So you go 287 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: back to our discussion about the Patriots and look how 288 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: they did it. They did it with a committee of 289 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: backs and they were all vital to what the Patriots 290 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: wanted to do. James White was a great receiver. Rex 291 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Burkehead could do a little bit of both. He could 292 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: run between the tackles. Sony Michelle was kind of their 293 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: their running running back, and they kind of all fit 294 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: together and the pieces were really nice. Now, they did 295 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: make a first round pick because Sony Michelle, but James 296 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: White was a fourth rounder. Rex Burkhead they got, I 297 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: don't want to say off the trash sheet, but they 298 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: essentially looked over at the Walmart bargain bind and were like, hey, 299 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: we liked that. You know, we're gonna buy that a 300 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: DVD for like three ninety nine. Come on, let's go 301 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: and and put it together. I think in two of 302 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: those guys I mentioned were drafted. Now, the Texans obviously 303 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: don't have a first round pick, but I don't think 304 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: drafting or running back in the first round is really 305 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: is really prudent as it pertains to the business of football. 306 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: But this draft in particular, I think there are I've 307 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: seen people say this draft then the running back class. 308 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: I really like this running back class. It has got 309 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: to mix everything. It's got some big backs, it's got 310 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: some jets, some smaller guys, It's got some really good 311 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: dual threat guys you can maybe call weapon X kind 312 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: of move them around the formation a little bit. It's 313 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: got to mix everything. And a lot of those guys 314 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: are really gonna be middle of round two and beyond. Well, 315 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: Texans pick the top round three, so they're gonna be 316 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: options at the running back position in this draft class. 317 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the Texans have hit on 318 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents before the Jaguars hit on one last year, 319 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: and a guy in James Robinson who didn't even have 320 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: an off season, showed up at training camp and people 321 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: didn't even really know who he was, and by the 322 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: end of training camp he was the number one back 323 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: and game more yards is an undrafted rookie had ever 324 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: had in the history of the game. So from that perspective, 325 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: you've got options to finding a running back in the 326 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: rookie class, and I think you can find one in 327 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: this class. It's to me, it's a really great class. 328 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: Even beyond Nija Harris and Travis at Tienne, who everybody knows. 329 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: You got big backs like Romandre Stevens at Oklahoma. You've 330 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: got weapon X kind of guys like the Metric Felton 331 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: from UCLA, Michael Carter from North Carolina, the guy that 332 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: I love, and I just there's no way he's gonna 333 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: be there at sixty seven. It is Javanti Williams from 334 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: out of North Carolina, who's Michael Carter's teammate. He is 335 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: as fun running back as I watched man. He is 336 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: explosive and he's gonna end up probably mid thirties on 337 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: my Harrison one hundred when it comes out. And the 338 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: more I thought about it, he's like one of those 339 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: guys I thought more and more about him, like, you 340 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: know what, he might need to be in the top 341 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: thirty because he is that exciting to watch. But there 342 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: are a bunch of guys that have those kind of 343 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: traits that you can find a lot of them are 344 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. You know that you can maybe 345 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: find the later rounds Elijah Mitchell from Louisiana. There are 346 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: guys that you can find to be effective at the 347 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: running back position for the Texas in twenty twenty one 348 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: and beyond. I love this running back class and I 349 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: think they're gonna find one or two guys out of 350 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: that class to really help them this year and beyond. Well, Buddy, 351 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: how Johnny look We've seen him run the ball well 352 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: on occasion. I'm not saying that Buddy Howe is a 353 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: feature back in this league, but he's a guy who 354 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: can give you a carrier two or maybe more in 355 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: certain situations and still provide what you're looking for on 356 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: special teams in his role. I mean, is he Matthew 357 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Slater on this team? Now, that's asking a lot. Slater 358 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: is a decade plus player, special Team's, Pro Bowl or 359 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But is he gunning for that 360 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: kind of career, that kind of role on this team. Well, 361 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: I mean, how long has matt He's later been around. 362 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean twelve thirteen years maybe, yeah, I mean the 363 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: number is extraordinary. Yeah, yeah. So from that perspective, man, 364 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: there's there's he's a long way to go. However, here's 365 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: the other here's if there's a difference. Matthew Slayer is 366 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: never gonna play wide receiver. He understands that. He knows 367 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: that Buddy how you can use as we saw in 368 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: certain situations. Now, it's not always the prettiest thing, but 369 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: it's straight ahead north south, and he's a big back 370 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: and he doesn't dance, and so maybe he ends up 371 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: being and playing a vital being your short yard is 372 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: back playing a vital role in short yard situations. So 373 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: could he be or Matthew Slayer, Sure, there's no question. 374 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: But I think you could get something out of him 375 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: in in the running game, and it doesn't have to 376 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: be you know, five to Stebbing careys a game, but 377 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: you're getting short yard situations. He's a banger and he 378 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: has a he'll fall forward and get your thirty six inches. 379 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: So from that perspective, I think he is vital to 380 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: have to play a number of different roles in that 381 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: particular instance in the running back group because thinking about it, 382 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, David Johnson, none of those those guys never 383 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: played special teams. But you have Buddy Chicago. Last year 384 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: he had what eleven carries I think it was, I 385 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: think all of them in the second half, and he 386 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: ran down on all four special teams, So you were 387 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: getting max value out of the guy. Now, I don't 388 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: expect him to have eleven carries and a half going forward, 389 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: but you get something out of him in a short 390 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: yard of situation, catch you two out of the backfield, 391 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: and I think that's a great thing. And glad he's 392 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: coming back what about Scottie Phillips. I mean, he was 393 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie last year, undrafted rookie free agent. They 394 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: had him on the roster. He saw a little bit 395 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: of action. You hate to give up on a guy, 396 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: but they're gonna have other undrafted rookies coming here and 397 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: who knows, you know where he ends up. But if 398 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: he ends up here or not, but that guy has 399 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: some talent. It's just gotta be tough for these players 400 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: to get them the opportunities for them to take advantage 401 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: of those opportunities. You don't have much time to develop. 402 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you better just show up and be able 403 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: to contribute from minute number one. Yeah, and hang on 404 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: the football. That's got to be the biggest thing when 405 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: you are. When you are you know, back two, three 406 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: or four on the roster and your spot isn't absolutely guaranteed, 407 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: you've been hanging out of the ball at all times. 408 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it sounds simple, but you better 409 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: hang out to the football. The last thing you want 410 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: to do is give a coach, a head coach, a 411 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: position coach, a general manager. You know Odjita about oh Man, 412 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: is he gonna hang out of the ball? But I 413 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: think with Scottie Phillips, and we saw that a few 414 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: times in training camp where he put the ball on 415 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: the ground, and I frustrated me because I felt like 416 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: Scottie was one of the He's the type of back 417 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: that defensive players don't like to tackle. And I think 418 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: back to to, you know, playing a long time ago. 419 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: I didn't mind tackling a big back. Yeah, I might 420 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: get embarrassed, I might get you know, thrown into the turf. 421 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 1: For more often than not, it's got a big target 422 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: and I can hit that target and then wrap him 423 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: up and bring him down. When you get a smaller 424 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: stock your back a Schreis and say, shorter stock your back, 425 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: they're hard to hit. And there were times when Scotty 426 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: went in there where you could tell he had some burst, 427 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: he had some juice, and it wasn't always easy to 428 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: tackle him. So from that perspective, I'd have no qualms 429 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: whatsoever Scottie Phillips getting in this mix. And look are 430 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: the name's gonna be, you know, sexy names. I don't know, 431 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: maybe after the draft, you know, maybe your Chuba Hubbard 432 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma State comes free in the fourth round somehow, 433 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: some way. But maybe not. Maybe you end up with 434 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: Scottie Phillips and Buddy Howell and Don Cherell Hilliard and 435 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: you kind of figure it out from there. Maybe there 436 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: was one year I remember in two thousand and nine 437 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: when nobody had a clue who the running backs were 438 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: for the Texas except for Steve Slayton. But yeah, you 439 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: know Steve's banged up. But you know Jeremiah Johnson and 440 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: his foster kid from Tennessee. Well that turned out pretty well. 441 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: So I'm never opposed just because the name guy's not 442 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: there or there isn't a name guy there. I do 443 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: think there will be a guy that people recognize. But 444 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: if it ends up being a bunch of guys that 445 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: know what their roles are supposed to be and they 446 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: fit together really well, as we talked about earlier in 447 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: a segment, I'm all for it. Then let's go. Let's 448 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: absolutely get it done because I think with a group 449 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: of backs, that's how teams are getting it done. Well. 450 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: The old line's gonna have a great deal to say 451 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: about this who's successful, who's not carrying the football? And 452 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: the team released sinel Killamette offensive lineman today versatile to 453 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: play a bunch of different spots. Played to the Saints 454 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: before the Texans, but no longer a Houston Texan. It's 455 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: just one of the few moves that they've been making. 456 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: Another one was the release of Peter Callumbi, who we 457 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: liked and special teams guy Stanford linebacker smart kid got 458 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: some reps as down every down cut not every down 459 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: but first and second down kind of linebacker um forced 460 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: into action because of injuries on occasion. But no longer 461 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: Houston Texans, so expect more moves like this. Cornell Armstrong 462 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: reportedly signed to what a one year deal is a 463 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: one year deal? Yeah, one year deal. And the same 464 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: with Buddy Howell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, here's the 465 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: here's the hard part. You know. I you know, watch 466 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Cornell in training camp and there are times I'm like, yeah, 467 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: all right, Corny, great job, and then oh, man, okay, 468 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: you gotta better technique. And so yeah, you keep a 469 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: guy around that can run, especially at the corner position. 470 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: At the corner position, man, you you're throwing paint on 471 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: a canvas at this point, trying to find anybody that 472 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: can cover anybody. So from that perspective, yeah, the more 473 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: of the marrier. Let's find as many guys that we 474 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: can that can cover, and hopefully Cornell Armstrong turns its 475 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: up a guy that can do that and maybe get 476 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: on the field a little bit more than he's been 477 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: in the past. Well, also special teams for him, right, 478 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt, absolutely, you know, I mean, I 479 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: don't want to say it goes without saying, but we 480 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: better be pretty darn good on special teams too. And 481 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: in the last few years under Brat Stewey Tracy Smith, 482 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: special teams we're pretty good for the most part. And 483 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: that's that's got to continue. Those areas have got to 484 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: be sharp. Guys got to be healthy to be able 485 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: to do with the health of the team really eroted 486 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: what those guys could do on special teams and what 487 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: the groups did in twenty twenty out of fifty three 488 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: you keep what five six, seven corners. Sometimes you can 489 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: never seem to have enough. And never mind, when you're 490 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: bringing a training camp, you know we're gonna be thirty 491 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: cornerbacks in the training camp because we need to look 492 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: at these guys. We need some help in the defensive backfield. Okay, 493 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: coming up on Texans Radio, let's get into this now. 494 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: We haven't played it since last offseason, Who's better? Who 495 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: Johnny's gonna decide who's better? And I've got some disclaimers 496 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: and other situations attached to these who's better questions for him, 497 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: and they all involved quarterbacks. So let's get into that 498 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: next on Texans Radio, Texans Radio, Texans Radio Texans Rate, 499 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: Texans Fans Great to have your port tonight for Texans 500 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: All Access. Mark Vandermeyer and John Harris with you. All right, 501 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: We're gonna play a game we haven't played since the 502 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: last offseason, called Who's Better? And I simply ask Johnny 503 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: who's better? Now? Sometimes I'll attach a little disclaimer, a 504 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: little statement just to clarify things. And I'm gonna start 505 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: with this one right here regard and all of these 506 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: are regarding quarterbacks, by the way, here's the first one. Now, 507 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: this is about who's better the future forecast, who's gonna 508 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: have the better career? And you gotta answer this one 509 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: carefully because who's around them is obviously going to have 510 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: a great deal of impact on how the career is 511 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: ultimately defined. Who's better as we sit here ten years 512 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: from now, Herbert or Tuah, Who's better? Johnny Herbert rookie 513 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: of the year, out standing, unbelievable, lots of yards. I mean, Johnny, 514 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: I'll love the guy. He's tremendous for the Chargers. Yeah, 515 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: the greatest rookie season. Not awful, but he was benched Fitz. 516 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: He came in and magically won the game against the Raiders, 517 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: second to last game. Then Fitz he had COVID or 518 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: tested positive or was exposed or whatever. And two I 519 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: had to play the finale and was not able to 520 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: pull it out. So a lot of people thinking, oh, 521 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: two was not all that. Boy, we throw away quarterbacks 522 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: very quickly these days. But Tuah is not a good team. 523 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: And if Tuah is all that is all he was 524 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: projected to be going into the draft. Remember Tank for two. 525 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: It feels like a hundred years ago. He was supposed 526 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: to be the guy. If Tua starts improving the team 527 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: around him, the organization around him, that should yield better play. 528 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: So who's better as we sit here ten years from now, 529 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: Herbert or Tua? Well, justin Herbert is on the flip side, 530 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: gonna have Keenan Allen presumably Mike Williams going forward. Yeah, 531 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: two pretty good receivers to throw two He's also got 532 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry. Now, Hunter I think is a free agent. 533 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: The Chargers are, i think discussing whether they're going to 534 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: keep him or not, or franchise McGann or not. I've 535 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: seen a couple of projections, one with him going elsewhere, 536 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: one staying. I've heard one of him going to the Patriots, 537 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: and like, oh gosh, which would make sense because his 538 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: high school coach, Kevin Kelly, the coach never kicks, who 539 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: never punts or kicks and always does outside kicks at 540 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: Plaski Academy in Arkansas, is a good friend of Bill Belichick. 541 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: So there's kind of linking that together either way. Point being, 542 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: I think Miami needs a weapon, for a consistent weapon, 543 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: and maybe and more than one. You look, DeVante Parker 544 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: has kind of raised his game a little bit. Mike 545 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: Asiki is a tight end, has done some decent things. 546 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to bury two a yet, I know 547 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people have. And obviously I've heard a 548 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: lot of talk about two around Houston for some reason. 549 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: And the thought with two is, oh, he was terribly 550 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: he got replaced by fitz He. I'm like, look, the 551 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: guy was coming off major hip surgery, major hip surgery 552 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: from last year when I saw before the hip surgery 553 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: was a pretty down a good quarterback? Now was he? 554 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: And is he going to be better than Justin Herbert? 555 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: I think Justin Herbert was a little bit of a 556 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: surprise for some of the draft nicks. I saw the 557 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: senior Bowl quarterback that can make every throw. I'm like 558 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: this guy, Wow, I don't know why he's not getting 559 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: more acclaimed. He deserves more. This guy who now I 560 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: grated to a higher But I think ultimately, after watching 561 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: Herbert make that big stride, and that was with no offseason, 562 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: no work with his receivers, now he's got the opportunity 563 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: to do all that kind of stuff. I think in 564 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: ten years will look up and think, actually, they'll be 565 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: very close. But I think it's gonna end up being 566 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert in ten years. All right, next week I'll 567 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: throw Burrow in the mix. But let's do this now, 568 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: let's go back to present day. Although no, you have 569 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: to future forecast this one as well. Yeah, gonna do 570 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: it all right, Who's better? And this is kind of 571 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: a hybrid with a game I want to develop called 572 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: Let's make a football deal. Carson Wentz for the Colts 573 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: or whoever they were going to select behind door number two. 574 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: You have to decide what they would have done had 575 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: Wentz not been available, and would that have been better 576 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: than Wentz maybe, especially for the short term the next 577 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: couple of years, because the Colts are built to be 578 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: good to go to contend for the division, if not more. 579 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: Obviously right, they came within a hair of winning the division. 580 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: Could have would have should have been a lot better. 581 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: But you got Carson Wentz presumably healthy, behind that good line, 582 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: a lot of weapons, good organization, or what else were 583 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: they going to do? What else are they going to 584 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: do at quarterback without Wentz available? I like what Chris 585 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Bower's in Indiapolis. I mean on the fronts, offensive defensive line. 586 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean finding a guy Julian Blackman, you know, drafted 587 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor last you're in a second round. I mean, 588 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: he's done really well. He's gotta had some bad luck 589 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: at quarterback. No pun attended, Actually pun attended because he's 590 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: had no luck at quarterback like he thought he was 591 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: gonna have for the next eight to ten years. He 592 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: took that job in large part because he didn't want 593 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: to have to go find a quarterback. Well now he's 594 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: been having a fine one every single year. I think 595 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: that in the draft process, I think that he would 596 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: have fallen in love with Mac Jones from Alabama. And 597 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: here's why I say that Mac Jones is he's not 598 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: a prima donna. He was coached by Corky Rogers at 599 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: the Bowls School. He was then coached by Nick Saban. Nobody, 600 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: nobody will coach Mac Jones harder than he has been 601 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: coached to this point in his life by Corky Rogers 602 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: in high school and Nick Saban in Alabama. Than the 603 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: coaching he's going to get going forward there just won't be. 604 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is as mentally tough a guy as you're 605 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: gonna find. He sat behind Hua, he sat behind Jalen Hurts. 606 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: He waited and got his opportunity and then he took 607 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: advantage of it. And Mark I watched him make throws 608 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: his past year and I'm like, wow, Yeah, he doesn't 609 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: have a great arm, but neither did Philip, but he 610 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: knew where to go with the ball. He got it 611 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: to his weapons and they're one better throw in the 612 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: end zone on fourth down to Michael Pittman away from 613 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: beating the Bills that wildcard round. If Philip makes a 614 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: better throw now, I think mac Jones would give them 615 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to have a future because if what we've 616 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: heard out of Philadelphia is that Carson Wentz can't be coached, 617 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: that he can't take hard coaching, that's gonna be a 618 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: major issue in Indianapolis. I don't care if it's Frank Reicher, 619 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: whoever coached him. That's just not the kind of guy 620 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: that Chris Ballard seems to seems to like. Mac Jones 621 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: would have been a guy that I think, Hey, you 622 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: could have gotten at twenty one and b I think 623 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: the Colts would have really liked him. I think Ballard 624 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: would have liked him, and you could have coached him 625 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: as hard as you possibly wanted, Johnny. Did they do 626 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: the wrong thing then? Did they just act too soon? 627 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: Did they impulse by Carson Wentz? They're at the store, 628 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is there at the checkout line, and they're like, 629 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I need a Carson Wentz. I I 630 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, I need a quarterback? So why don't they 631 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: just grab right here? Did they act too soon? I mean, 632 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: who else was gonna make a deal for Carson Wentz. 633 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: Couldn't they have waited. I know, you can't wait till 634 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: the draft because then everything changes, But I don't know. 635 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: It just feels a little impulse by to me for 636 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts in some sense. I mean, yeah, they 637 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: went with Philip last year because they felt like they 638 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: had the pieces that Philip could do something with. They 639 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: wanted a veteran in that mix. I can see them 640 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: wanting a veteran with what they have around that if 641 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: they bring in a rookie, there's gonna be there's gonna 642 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: be a learning curve in all this. But what if 643 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 1: the Colts had had Justin Herbert last year on his 644 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: learning curve? You know what if Mac Jones came to 645 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: the Colts with Justin Herbert's learning curve? Could grief? How 646 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: good is that team? So I don't want to say 647 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: they made they made a mistake because I do think. 648 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: I do think that Carson Wentz has good football left 649 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: in him. But I do think that his confidence took 650 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: such a hit last year. It's gonna be tough when 651 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: he has a bad game in Indianapolis and he starts 652 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: to hear some of the criticism. How is he going 653 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: to react to that. And by the way, there's also 654 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: a financial component. So what player or players are the 655 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: Colts not going to be able to go after because 656 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: they've got additional moneies sunk into into Carson Wentz that 657 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: said us a roll of dice whether mac Jones is 658 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: gonna be there at twenty one, and if he wasn't, 659 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: then you're in a lot of trouble at that point. 660 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: All right, we only have a couple of minutes left 661 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: for this. Last two is better and we'll probably elaborate 662 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: on this all offseason longer, maybe till the end of time. 663 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: But who's better? You're the Jags. You have to decide 664 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: who's better, Trevor Lawrence or the field at quarterback? Right, 665 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: I've got Trevor Lawrence and the crosshairs. But the more 666 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: I watched Zach Wilson tape, the more I like. The 667 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: more I look at that, that's seventy percent plus what 668 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: is it, seventy three eight percent completion percentage and only 669 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: three picks. Yeah, I'm starting to think maybe that's the 670 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: guy should be looking at. I know the competition level 671 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: isn't as great as what Lawrence faced. And then I 672 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: got Justin Fields as well out there, and I got 673 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: everybody else who you know, you mentioned Mac Jones, everybody 674 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: else who is potentially available, who's been but well, I 675 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: know this will shock you. I spent today studying Fields 676 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: for a couple hours. I had already watched him, and 677 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: I just know he's been a polarizing prospect seemingly the 678 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: last week, week and a half or so. And I 679 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: watched Fields in probably his roughest game against Indiana, and 680 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 1: I walked out and going, Okay, I'll take that guy. Now, 681 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: I'll take Zach Wilson. I'm studying him often. I've watched 682 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: as many games as possible. I get my hands on 683 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence. It's Trevor Lawrence. And if the Jags 684 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: want to screw that up and you know, take a 685 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: different quarterback, well that's on them. Trevor Lawrence is that guy. Now. 686 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: The difference to the difference to me in other years, 687 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: like I always felt like there was a gaggle quarterback eighteen, 688 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: like Baker and Darnald and Josh not Josh Allen, Yeah, 689 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. They were all kind of in a group 690 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: like a top ten time. There wasn't much that separate them. 691 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: These four quarterbacks, to me, including Trey Lance from Nordakota State, 692 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: there's not much that separates them. However, Lawrence is six six, 693 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: I think, faster than all of them, stronger arm than 694 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: all of them, played in higher profile games, and all 695 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: of them, maybe combined, won a championship as a freshman, 696 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: and is a pipe piper for that Clemson program. We've 697 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: heard that before. So from that perspective, those are things 698 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: that Jaguars have gotta have. They would be foolish to 699 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: not pick Trevor Lawrence. Now, if somebody comes to them 700 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: with some unbelievable deal that includes a quarterback, and then 701 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: maybe you're gonna maybe you'll listen because that's gonna you know, 702 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 1: with all the draft picks already have, that would help. 703 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: But that said, it's Trevor Lawrence. And I love those 704 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: other guys. I love Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, 705 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: I love them. They're all the top ten. Harris one hundred, 706 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: those four my top ten. I don't think I've had 707 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: that happen. Maybe in the eight years I've done this, 708 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: I don't think I've had that happen. But Trevor Lawrence 709 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: is number one, and he's number one with a bullet. 710 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, let's go around the league 711 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 1: a bit TV deals not up yet, but getting close. 712 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: How does three and a half billion for one game 713 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: a week sound for one of the networks? Oh ye goodness. 714 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: We'll get into that among other things on Texans Radio. 715 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio and it's Mark Vandermarin. John Harris with 716 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: you as we go around the league. Hit on some 717 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: of the Texans news earlier. Nothing earth shattering, all right, 718 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: so everybody just calmed down. But among other things going 719 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: out around the league, I guess Aaron Rodgers is going 720 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: to host Jeopardy for ten shows. Johnny, all right, so 721 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: you you have one game show to host? Is it 722 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: this one? Is? It's something else that's good? You know? 723 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: Will fortune would be fun? I was always with a four. 724 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, no no, no, no, I know the one i'd want. 725 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: I'd want to do family feud. Darny just stole mine 726 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: I want to do. I'd want to do family feud. 727 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't think I could do it as as well 728 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: as Steve Harvey does. But man, somebody gave me some 729 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: of the answers that he gets. Oh, that would be 730 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: so much fun about match game? What about match game? Yeah? Okay, 731 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: I match games okay again, Yeah, I think I'll be 732 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: all right. I mean, I grew up in the glory 733 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: days of game shows like If I Was Homesick, like 734 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: the Elliwed Game and Tattletales with Bert Convey password, Alan 735 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 1: Luddon password, Betty White awesome stuff, okay, among other things 736 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: going on around the league. ESPN, well, the NFL would 737 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,240 Speaker 1: like three and a half billion per year for Monday 738 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: night football. ESPN is offering two point four billion. These 739 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: numbers are just so staggering to me. I just this 740 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: is Monday night football. This isn't even Sunday Night football. 741 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: It's Monday at football. Doesn't get as bigger rating. Now, 742 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: I guess they're gonna put it back on ABC and ESPN, 743 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: either simulcast or maybe ABC alone. It was funny when 744 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: they took it off ABC. Funny strange in the sense that, hey, 745 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: this was an ABC show since the beginning of time, right, yeah, 746 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: since Alex Carris was on it and Keith Jackson was 747 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: the first ever played by play announcer for Monday Night football. 748 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 1: But I got at ESPN wanted to lift the cable 749 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: network up lift the profile even higher. They were going 750 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: to be there every Monday. It will be like a 751 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: super Bowl every week. They've backed away from that, especially 752 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: during COVID, but even in the years that followed the 753 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: initial consummation of the deal. Now I can see it 754 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: definitely going back to ABC because nothing on network TV 755 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: comes close to NFL football. So why not have that 756 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: chip on a Monday night of a huge audience. It 757 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: lifts up the whole network. You can promote all your programming. 758 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't even know what shows are on ABC anymore. 759 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: I mean who watches network shows. You don't watch many 760 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: network shows at all other than football, right right? Yeah, 761 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean maybe reality shows. Um maybe, I mean if 762 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 1: i'm ESPN, you know, or Disney. I'm staying Look all right, 763 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: maybe we don't get the three and a half. We'll 764 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: give you three billion, but we want the opportunity to 765 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: have non garbage games on Monday Night. And I can't 766 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 1: remember if it was eighteen or nineteen. I think it 767 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: was nineteen, and you're like, hey, yeah, we get all excited, like, hey, 768 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 1: what's the Monday night game? To night it's like, oh, 769 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: it's Bengals Giants, Like yeah, what no, no, no pass. 770 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean we still watch because we're you know, we're 771 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: football guys, but that that would I think be one 772 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: of the conditions of lookum, we're gonna need some better 773 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: inventory on Monday night and that used to be the game, 774 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 1: and obviously it's changed the Sunday night. But I mean, 775 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: who's to say what you can do going forward moving games? 776 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean, look how co we kind of showed us 777 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: we could do it. Yeah, they'll love it, but you 778 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: could do it if you had to. That said, if 779 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna pay three billion dollars for just one package 780 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: to Monday night package, then you better demand better inventory, 781 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But I'm really curious to see 782 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: how this one plays out. I've got a news item 783 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 1: for you. I want to get your thoughts because this 784 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: one I thought of you. What's up? New Orleans Saints 785 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 1: are looking for a new play by play man because 786 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:34,479 Speaker 1: z Streef, Yeah, is moving to the coaching staff, which 787 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: is now putting the Saints on a lookout for a 788 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: play by play man. What do you think when you 789 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: saw that story? Well, you know I heard Streef. First 790 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: of all, what Streffe got the job without any experience 791 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: I was kind of freaked out about that. I actually 792 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 1: taught to him and I heard him and look, nuts 793 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: and bolts, he kind of got to the game. I 794 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: don't like it because I think so many guys work 795 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: so hard in this business to get an opportunity and 796 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: then you give it to you guys never done anything. 797 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: But look, that's life in the big city. That happens 798 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: in all industries, in all sorts of situations. You just 799 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: gotta deal with it, right, It just happens, and you 800 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: have to hope to create your own opportunity. And when 801 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: I saw that it was open again. Look, people have 802 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: been calling me, like, you know, anybody with the Saints, 803 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: so because these jobs don't open up very often, and 804 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: that's a heck of a job to have. I mean, 805 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: when you have the Saints job, you kind of own Louisiana. 806 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: That in LSU I mean, those are the top jobs, right, 807 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: so you definitely want to have a look at that 808 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: if you're a big Louisiana guy, or anybody wants to 809 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: be a play by play announcer. I thought it was 810 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: interesting that Streff went to coach after being in the booth, Like, 811 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't like this at all. I want to go coach. Okay, 812 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: so I asked you that Nick Kisseio David Culley come 813 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: here and like, look, James Camping needs a little help 814 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: on the offensive lot. That's me, baby, Johnny. That's the 815 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: last thing. Look I could almost see by the way. 816 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 1: I watched a six man game because fourt Bend Christian, 817 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: my former flag football quarterback, plays for them, right, yeah, 818 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: the team I forget. He's I guess he's in eighth 819 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,439 Speaker 1: grade this year and he's really good and they play 820 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: six man football. And I watched the game and I 821 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: thought I might be able to coach that because I 822 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: coached flag basketball. It's it's kind of like a punt 823 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: snap every time the quarterback is so deep and they're 824 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: snapping at somebody who gives it to the quarterback because 825 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he can run unless he takes the 826 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: handoff and then he has options. Right, So I thought 827 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: that's a lot like flag football. You know, there's the 828 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: blocking is like it's excuse me blocking, right, I could 829 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: coach excuse me blocking? I can't. To me, the offensive 830 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: line is one of the more intri good things. I 831 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: feel like I could design some plays. Yeah, I feel 832 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: like it. I probably could the old line. I'd be like, 833 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 1: you guys knock people down better? Okay, can you knock 834 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: the other guy down better? You know, Bill O'Brien talks 835 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: about moving the line of scrimmage. You guys are not 836 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: moving them. Move them out, Johnny, Thanks a lot. That's 837 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: it for the show tonight. It'll be up on the 838 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: Texans app soon enough for you to enjoy it or 839 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: critique it or consume it whichever way you want to 840 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: in just a few moments here. We'll be back tomorrow 841 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: night on Draft Wednesday. Have a great evening everyone, and 842 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: go Texans, and go