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Speaker 1: This one Bills Live, presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Thursday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 3: Good to be back in the saddle.

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Speaker 2: After a couple of days off, and we are ready

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Speaker 2: to talk football with you, chiefly Bills football. Will get

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Speaker 2: into that in just a little bit, actually sooner rather

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Speaker 2: than later, because there were some coaching additions made to

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Speaker 2: the staff. After Steve and Chris Chrapassa were off the

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Speaker 2: air yesterday like yesterday afternoon, some coaches were announced as

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Speaker 2: additions to Sean McDermott's staff. Jamile Adaie was named the

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Speaker 2: team's cornerbacks coach, and he kind of came from the

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Speaker 2: college ranks, former secondary coach for the University of Miami.

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Speaker 2: And then you had Christian Taylor named defensive quality control coach.

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Speaker 2: Had some time with William and Mary on his coaching resume.

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Speaker 2: And then al H. Holcombe, who was already on the staff,

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Speaker 2: was named linebackers coach, so he replaces Bobby Babbage who

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Speaker 2: got promoted to defensive coordinator. He had been hired as

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Speaker 2: a defensive senior defensive assistant last year at this time,

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Speaker 2: so he has a position coaching role. Now going forward,

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Speaker 2: and then assistant defensive line coach Marcus West is now

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Speaker 2: the defensive line coach. He's replaced Eric Washington who left

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Speaker 2: to go to Chicago to become a defensive coordinator there.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of a long and short of it.

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Speaker 2: Or now, whether there are any more additions, we will

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Speaker 2: wait and see, but yeah, there it is. The staff

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Speaker 2: if you want to kind of put a theme to this, Steve,

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff has gotten considerably younger, and we always

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Speaker 2: we always talk about we hear coach mcdie. I should

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Speaker 2: say we hear coach McDermott talk about this a lot

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Speaker 2: from time to time. The energy that he wants at practice,

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Speaker 2: he believes, to some degree, has to be initiated by

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff. He wants an energy level from the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff that permeates through the roster and then is

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Speaker 2: exhibited in the play at practice. And you see it,

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Speaker 2: you hear it, you know, when we go out to

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Speaker 2: out to training camp, you hear it right away. There

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Speaker 2: is an energy that comes from coach McDermott's staff, and

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Speaker 2: he wants that to be omnipresent. And I think when

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Speaker 2: you have young, aspiring coaches who you know are still

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Speaker 2: I think that just becomes an inherent thing on a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's a lot being said lately, and I

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Speaker 4: think there is something to it, But you're that you

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Speaker 4: know these it's a new generation of player. You know,

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Speaker 4: the player safeties out there, the defenders are not allowed

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Speaker 4: that you hear about. This is a new generation of players,

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Speaker 4: you know, the little more entitled, a little more whatever.

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Speaker 3: You got to be.

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Speaker 4: Have young guys that can relate to these young players.

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Speaker 4: I'll say, yes, that's true, but I've seen older guys

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Speaker 4: do the same thing, being able to relate Pete. Pete

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Speaker 4: who you are and what you do. Guys respond to you.

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Speaker 4: That's really the key. If it doesn't matter your age,

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Speaker 4: If you can get the players that you coach to

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Speaker 4: and certainly younger guys do have more energy around these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I maybe this is maybe this is not

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Speaker 2: I think we've already had discussions early in this offseason

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Speaker 2: So my question to you is, seeing the coaching staff

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Speaker 4: To be made. I don't think one follows the other necessarily.

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Speaker 4: The coaching staff age has nothing to do with who's

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Speaker 4: Old and and that means average age. So you know,

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Speaker 4: So all that stuff being said, I do think this

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a much more youthful roster,

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Speaker 4: and you know, this staff is going to be tasked

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a different season, no question about it.

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Speaker 4: I do think we talked a little bit in the

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Speaker 4: going to flush through this roster and they are going

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Speaker 4: also that while it may look different on one side

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's because the core to a large

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Speaker 4: Well, particularly on the offensive side of the ball. For sure,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a youth movement is afoot here just

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Speaker 2: For lack of a better term, you know, we know

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Speaker 3: But we might be.

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Speaker 2: At the end of that road here. And as Steve

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Speaker 2: for two reasons, One because players are aging out, and

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Speaker 2: get through the off season filling out a roster capably.

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Speaker 2: So it's all coming down the pike sooner rather than later,

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Speaker 2: every new addition as it comes down the pike here.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's going to be a different kind

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Speaker 3: They sty'll have to fill out the roster, but I think.

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Speaker 2: It's just going to be done in a little bit

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Speaker 2: different way than we've become accustomed to seeing.

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Speaker 3: Let's go around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Which is presented by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills, And it looks like the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: are going to be without Pro bowlguard Joe Toney for

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Sunday. Nick Alligretti, who filled in for Tuny

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Speaker 3: According to Andy Reid, So.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks is not enough time for Joe Tuney to

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Speaker 2: come back from a peck muscle. They didn't say it

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Speaker 2: was torn, but maybe it's partially torn.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You can't play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a lot upper body movement and it's yeah.

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Speaker 4: And I read one blurb where Andy Reid said it

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Speaker 4: whatever it is. Nick Callagretti, you're in let's go.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you can do a lot worse than

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Speaker 2: Nick allegready, I'll just say that. You know, I thought

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Speaker 2: They were limited in practice on Wednesday, so we'll have

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Speaker 2: may you know, if their level of participation increases stays

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Speaker 2: the same, to see.

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Speaker 3: What their availability could look like for Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I gotta believe anybody that is remotely close to going

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Speaker 2: is not missing this game, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, this is it comes down to the coaching

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Speaker 4: from himself. Everybody's won't want to play in the game.

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Speaker 4: That's all there is to it. You just don't. You

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Speaker 4: don't miss the Super Bowl. I mean, I tell I've

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Speaker 4: told the story a bunch of times. I was getting

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Speaker 2: We saw a report from the NFL that injuries were

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Speaker 2: not decidedly greater on turf as opposed to grass, but

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Speaker 2: that has clearly had no impact on what player preference

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Speaker 2: is because NFLPA executive Director Lloyd Howell released the figures

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Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl this week saying ninety two percent

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Speaker 2: of players want grass fields over turf fields. We heard

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Speaker 2: Commissioner Goodell basically state that it's not just a grass

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Speaker 2: versus turf debate. They are looking at mixed fields where

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a heavy lift to me, but maybe

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Speaker 2: it isn't. To kind of preserve the integrity of grass

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Speaker 2: over in the northern climates and you know you don't

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Speaker 2: have a good looking track. There are some stadiums that

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Speaker 2: replace their grass late in the season with fresh sod,

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Speaker 2: with sometimes mixed results. We know the Bill's new stadium

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of the European soccer

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Speaker 3: Through January practic where.

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Speaker 4: We went to Europe to play in our games, they

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Speaker 4: What they do with soccer fields mostly too. I noticed

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Speaker 4: So plus football players wear three quarter inch cleats, seven

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Speaker 2: We understand the magnitude of opportunity with a stadium project.

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Speaker 3: You know, the city when.

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Speaker 3: It's like right on the lake downtown.

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Speaker 4: I mean, most a lot of bills fans you've driven

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Speaker 2: Which is why they talked about a land bridge, right,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be great. I think it would open up

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Speaker 4: read that today about the Cleveland State they just built that.

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Speaker 4: I say that it's been what twenty five years now.

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Speaker 3: Right, ninety nine is when they came back.

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Speaker 2: And the only stadium older is Arrowhead, which has been

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Speaker 4: Right. And Baltimore now is also talked about refurbishing and

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Speaker 2: They they came a little bit before because the Browns

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Speaker 4: Ravens to the ninety five. No, but they did they

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Speaker 4: I guess not everybody out there. I remember these stadiums,

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Speaker 4: I remember that. Maybe I do. Maybe I'm old. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, Steve, but Maurice

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Speaker 3: In on the list?

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Speaker 4: I did not.

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Speaker 3: He came in. Where do you think he ended up?

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Speaker 4: Well, he was fourth in rushing, had over an i'll

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Speaker 2: Well, he's ranking all seven seven every running back that

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Speaker 2: He was ranked fifth steal Oh okay, this is what

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Speaker 3: So still pretty good company.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean talk about vaulting up the list into

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to feel like, uh, they got to

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Speaker 4: You know, you and I both talked about maybe getting

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Speaker 3: Day two, morning of day two, morning.

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Speaker 3: On what was on the board, and we got him right.

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Speaker 4: And that was, you know, two years ago. Now it's

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Speaker 3: Hey, how about that?

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Speaker 4: We were right? I'm telling you, man, it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: A topic of discussion for you today at eight oh

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Speaker 2: aight oh three oh five fifty won eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty the coaching staff has seen

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Speaker 2: Aight oh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight fifty.

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Speaker 2: Then nobody get on board. Open lines for you there.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have time to give us a call,

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Jim?

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Speaker 7: Hey, how are you guys today?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 7: I have a question for you okay, actually, actually two questions.

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Speaker 7: I have a question for you that's going to define

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Speaker 7: both of your characters. If put yourself in Josh Allen's

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Speaker 7: shoes and knowing that in which quarterback, do you think

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Speaker 7: Josh Allen would want to win the Super Bowl? Knowing

442
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Speaker 7: that he's friends with Pat RK. Macolmes and he plays golf,

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Speaker 7: would he rather root for him? Or would he rather

444
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Speaker 7: root for brock Party because he doesn't want Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 7: to get too far ahead of him. I've my second question,

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, who do you who do you think is

447
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Speaker 7: going to win the Super Bowl? I never bet on

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Speaker 7: I never I never would not bet on Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to pretend to be a Josh

450
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Speaker 2: Allen mind reader.

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Speaker 3: I can't crawl into his head.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm going to lose to somebody in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: I feel a whole lot better about losing to them.

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Speaker 2: If they won the whole thing. At least I can

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Speaker 2: say I lost to the champion, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what he would say.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he thinks that way, do you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, I don't know how. I don't know how

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Speaker 4: good are friends Josh and Patter. I know they're really like,

461
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Speaker 4: they like each other. Yeah, there's a questions they're not.

462
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Speaker 4: They're not hanging out and stuff. They play golf if

463
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Speaker 4: it when they're in the same place. But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I was saying this today. I could not be more

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Speaker 4: indifferent as to who wins this Super Bowl. I think

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Speaker 4: the Bills could beat either one of these teams, but

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Speaker 4: they didn't. And you know, the Bills are in a

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Speaker 4: conference with the Chiefs, with the Bengals, with the Ravens,

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Speaker 4: and the forty nine ers are in a conference with

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Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield. So you know, take that for what it's worth.

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Speaker 4: I think that I'm with you, Jim in Lockport. I'm

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Speaker 4: not betting against the Chiefs, but for as a Bills fan,

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Speaker 4: I could not possibly care less about the outcome of

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Speaker 4: this game. It doesn't mean anything for the Bills. They're

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Speaker 4: not in it. They can't affect who happens in it.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean anything in relation to where their season

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Speaker 4: win or where it went. The Bills are just like

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Speaker 4: every other team that's not in the super Bowl. They

479
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Speaker 4: have no stake in this game, and it doesn't say

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Speaker 4: anything about the quality of their team. The Bills have

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Speaker 4: been good enough to go to and win the super

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Speaker 4: Bowl for four years now, been able to do it.

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Speaker 4: You can say what you want about why. There's a

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Speaker 4: different reason every single year, because every one of those

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Speaker 4: games that put them out of the playoffs was a

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Speaker 4: different animal. So you just got to I'll say this.

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Speaker 4: You gotta know this too, sitting here at home in Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: You gotta know this too, that could have been you

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Speaker 4: in a lot of ways. Uh, you're gonna be You're

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Speaker 4: gonna have a chance to be there again next year,

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Speaker 4: and it's gonna it's fun to be a part of

492
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Speaker 4: this league when you've got a team that is just

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Speaker 4: like those two that you're gonna see play on Sunday

494
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Speaker 4: because you do. The Bills are a team just like

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Speaker 4: these too, the Chiefs and the Niners. They got a

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Speaker 4: bunch of good dudes, great quarterback, they're well coached, they're

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Speaker 4: hard to beat, and that's why the Bills are gonna

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Speaker 4: be standing there next year and have with another chance

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Speaker 4: to go. But it's for choosing Pat Mahomes over Brock Purty.

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Speaker 4: I could not possibly care less. I almost turned into

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Speaker 4: a player for a minute. I'm not going to so yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's all I'm gonna say those you know, good luck

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Speaker 4: to up both of them. I hope they all come

504
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Speaker 4: out unhealthy and all that. And I hope it's a

505
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 4: great game. I hope it goes into OT. I hope

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00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: it's one of those games, you know. I hope it's

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Speaker 4: a classic. But just because I'm gonna watching and I

508
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 4: want some entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hard to go against Mahomes with what he's done,

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Speaker 2: you know, the last few years. I mean even go

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Speaker 2: back four years when he played the Niners the last

512
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: time they're down ten points going into the second half.

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Speaker 3: Won that one. So yeah, far.

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Speaker 2: Be it from me to doubt that guy with the

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Speaker 2: recent track record he's put together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll say this.

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Speaker 2: Too, minimizes risk better than anybody right now, and he

518
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Speaker 2: maximizes bad situations better than anybody seemingly.

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Speaker 4: Let me talk about too, is the Bills went through

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00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: stretch this season where you know, McDermott got criticized and

521
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 4: he's gotten criticized in a pass for mishandling, you know,

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Speaker 4: not being a good enough coach whatever in whatever crunch situation.

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Speaker 4: You know, the other guy that's really getting hammered for

524
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Speaker 4: the way he has handled into game clock management has

525
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Speaker 4: been the forty nine Ers Kyle Shanahan. You go back

526
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Speaker 4: over his career and there's a list of a ton

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Speaker 4: of games where he has been part and parcel of

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Speaker 4: the reason they lost, not the reason they won. Has

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator slash head coach or both, And he's got

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Speaker 4: that on his resume that he's actually trying to shake

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Speaker 4: this super Bowl. Andy Reid was the exact same thing

532
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Speaker 4: as well. He had all through his time in Philly.

533
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Speaker 4: He was accused of mismanaging the clock, mismanaging timeouts, not

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Speaker 4: being aggressive here, being too aggressive there. Their end of

535
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Speaker 4: game management came under a huge scrutiny at certain points

536
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Speaker 4: of his career. Andy Reid. Now, of course that's all forgotten.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan's still battling that. So it's there's a lot

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Speaker 4: in this game and storylines about, you know, coaches and

539
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Speaker 4: what is going to mean to them? And let alone

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Speaker 4: the quarterbacks with two guys on the opposite ends of

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Speaker 4: the spectrum, a first round draft pick and an MVP

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Speaker 4: and Pat Mahomes and mister irrelevant and Brock Purdy, who

543
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: is the Cinderella story of the season for the NFL.

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Speaker 4: A lot of fun, but I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Steve doesn't even sound like a football fan. Holy cow.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, but we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get to more of your phone calls when we return.

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Speaker 2: What do the changes to the Bill's coaching staff say

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Speaker 2: to you about next season?

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Speaker 3: And let us know at eight oh three zero.

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Speaker 2: Five, eight, five fifty two, five point fifty Bob and Hamburg,

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Speaker 2: Matt and Buffalo will get to you next here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by to a Lot of Health.

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Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, Welcome back to One

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Speaker 3: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you on a.

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Speaker 2: Thursday, and we go to the phones, and we lead

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Speaker 2: off with Bob and Hambury.

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 8: Bob, Hey, I've had two things for you. I don't

561
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Speaker 8: want to thank you both for teaching my friend Dorothy football.

562
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 8: She learns a lot from me, but she learns to

563
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Speaker 8: watch your show every day. Second of all, Steve, what

564
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Speaker 8: are you doing in Orchard Park?

565
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Speaker 9: Goot to Vegas?

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Speaker 8: You're going Home of Fame tonight.

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Speaker 4: I am not going to the Hall of Fame tonight.

568
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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, and I stay in Orchard Part because

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Speaker 4: that's where we do the show.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I we were gonna if the Bills were in the

572
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl, we'd be in Vegas, That's right.

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Speaker 3: Probably we would have been there for the week.

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Speaker 4: I would assume we'd be on radio row with everybody,

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Speaker 4: with every other radio station in the country. But you know,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to Yeah. If they would have told us

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Speaker 4: we were going to go to the super Bowl anyway,

578
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 4: just to you know, because the show's an NFL show,

579
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Speaker 4: we should be there. We're gonna do that, I would

580
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 4: have been like, really, we got to go now and

581
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Speaker 4: watch those two guys, those two teams play. See it

582
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: is how much I told you I didn't care last segment,

583
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Speaker 4: and then I'd had to act like I cared.

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Speaker 3: Easier said than I'd rather just stay right here. Let's

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Speaker 3: go to Matt in Buffalo next. What's up Matt?

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, appreciate you having me on the show, big

587
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 10: time fan, and I just want to say thank you

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Speaker 10: for everything you do for Buffalo. But I just wanted

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Speaker 10: to give my two points that I think on the

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Speaker 10: new coaching staff. First of all, I think having Joe

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Speaker 10: Brady be the QB coach and the OC last season,

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Speaker 10: along with McDermott doing the DC as well as the

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Speaker 10: head coaching, I think they might have been a little

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Speaker 10: short staff and that might have been the reason for

595
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Speaker 10: some of the questionable coach calling. So I am looking

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Speaker 10: forward to seeing a full staff for this next year.

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Speaker 10: And the second part I wanted to say, I was

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Speaker 10: kind of curious on if Joe Brady just got thrown

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Speaker 10: into a playbook mid season or not. I don't know

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Speaker 10: if it was an adapted playbook or whatnot. But anyway,

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Speaker 10: I'm just looking forward to seeing a full off season

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Speaker 10: and see if we're developing new playbook or just what

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Speaker 10: changes he makes to it. But either way, a full

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00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 10: off season I think is going to do wonders for

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Speaker 10: the Bills offense. But also would love to hear your

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Speaker 10: take on everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay man, thanks, Yes, I do think.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they were understaff, but certainly there

609
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 4: was a lot on the plate of Joe Brady when

610
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Speaker 4: he became offensive coordinator and it was ken door playbook,

611
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: no question about it. And now he could make some

612
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: changes quickly and it could evolve it pretty quickly to

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Speaker 4: get going. But yes, it was you know, he kind

614
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Speaker 4: of had to start from zero if you're Joe Brady

615
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Speaker 4: and kind of build your personality and your play calls

616
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Speaker 4: into the mix as you went along. Don't know how

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Speaker 4: you know how it felt to Josh getting you know,

618
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Speaker 4: how it felt different to Josh what they said and

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Speaker 4: how the conversations went, and how different it got. But

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Speaker 4: still you got to think that it's going to be

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Speaker 4: different when they start from the OTA's and mini camps

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Speaker 4: and training camps, certainly in preseason installing it with Joe

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Speaker 4: Brady doing one hundred percent of that work. Now the

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Speaker 4: other side, Sean McDermott, I I like where the defense

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Speaker 4: was this year. I know it was ranked lower than

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Speaker 4: it had been under Leslie Fraser over the last couple

627
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Speaker 4: of years, but this defense this year got way more

628
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Speaker 4: splash plays and had way more effect on games by

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Speaker 4: making play they did in the years past, and I

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Speaker 4: thought that was much more effective at times for this

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Speaker 4: team than they had been. I know, too, they didn't

632
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Speaker 4: win as many games as they did with the defense

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Speaker 4: playing under Leslie Fraser.

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Speaker 3: They also wearing a shorthanded due to injury.

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Speaker 4: That's right, and you can put that and you can

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Speaker 4: blame whatever you want on it. But I thought this

637
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 4: defense made differences at times during games where you would

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Speaker 4: think they never did that in years past. So I

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00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 4: was kind of high on the way McDermott handled the

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Speaker 4: defense and what he did. But having said all that

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Speaker 4: as well, maybe it was a lot. I don't know

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00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 4: what questionable coaching you're talking about when you say you

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Speaker 4: know when you know mcdermam all that maybe that explains

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00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 4: the questionable. I don't know what you're talking about there.

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Speaker 4: You have to be more specific, but it'll be interesting

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Speaker 4: to see what Sean McDermott does. I think with Bobby Babbage,

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Speaker 4: I think probably if I'm Bobby Babbage and they haven't

648
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 4: announced this or anything. But if I'm Bobby Babbage, don't

649
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 4: you say I'll take the job. But I want to

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Speaker 4: call it if I'm going to get if I'm going

651
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 4: to get that Moniker, I want to be the guy

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Speaker 4: called in the plays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Brandon Bean was asked about that recently

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Speaker 2: and he said they're still working that out now. Internally,

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Speaker 2: they may have already decided and he just doesn't want

656
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Speaker 2: to make it public because he probably figures Sean will

657
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: make that known when it needs to be known.

658
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I.

659
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 2: Suppose it could go either way, but I would be

660
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: inclined to agree with you. I would think that, you know,

661
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: Bobby Babbage gets a promotion to a role that was

662
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: held by the head coach to call the defense. That

663
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: would seem to be logical to think, But we'll have

664
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Speaker 2: to wait and see what comes of that. And yeah,

665
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: maybe if guys like Joe Brady and Sean McDermott aren't

666
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: pulling double duty. Yeah, maybe it does lend itself to

667
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: better overall what's the word I'm looking looking for? Better

668
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: overall management of the game, you know, from all three phases.

669
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: So maybe that's, you know, something that they come out

670
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: of last season deciding and it's part of the reason

671
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: why you have a guy who is defensive coordinator only

672
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 2: without any other title right now. So yeah, and I'm

673
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how it's all gonna work. And

674
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: it's if it's not the youngest, it's one of the

675
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: youngest staffs in the league right now. I'll have to

676
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: go look up the average age range, but I believe

677
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: they're the youngest staff in the league right now with

678
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: their current collection of assistants.

679
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 3: But I'll have to double check on that.

680
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: To Tom on the West side, what you got for Tom?

681
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 9: Hey, Happy afternoon, guys. Thanks, Okay, nice segue, Chris. Because

682
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 9: I was gonna say it's a trickle down theory, I

683
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 9: think McDermott is gonna have a start. I'm on Babbage

684
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 9: because he got a taste to run on the defense

685
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 9: this year and he liked it, but he's gonna let

686
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 9: Babbage run it, but he's gonna have control over it

687
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 9: and make sure the Babbage is doing what he wants.

688
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 9: And on the offensive side, Joe Brady, he got his

689
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 9: buddy Curry from Houston, and now they're gonna they're gonna

690
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 9: let Josh be Josh, but they're gonna they're not gonna

691
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 9: make him throw forty five sixty five times a game.

692
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 9: They're gonna use all the assets on the team to

693
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 9: the best of their ability, which is what Dorsey didn't do.

694
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 9: Dorsey was making Alan throw the ball eighty percent of

695
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 9: the time, and that's wrong. What say you?

696
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 4: Yeah? First of all, curis from New Orleans, not Houston. Secondly,

697
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott having control over the defense and letting Babbage

698
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 4: call it. The head coach got control over the offense too,

699
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: not just the defense. Don't kid yourself. It comes down

700
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: to who's call on the plays, and it'll take Babbage.

701
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 4: If Babbage doesn't indeed call the plays, that's where it

702
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 4: begins and ends. I remember early on in his tenure

703
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: as head coach, Sean took the plays away from Leslie

704
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 4: during a game early in their career. He's done it

705
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: more than one, and he did it occasionally because he

706
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: either he wanted to be more aggressive or less aggressive

707
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: or whatever it was. He did that and and so

708
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: he would probably be able to do that too, even

709
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 4: if he let Bob Babbage call the defense. So all

710
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 4: of that is is in the mix.

711
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And I would be interested to see how

712
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: much co counsel Sean McDermott provides Bobby Babbage.

713
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: Because I mean, this is a fact.

714
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: He is not called plays for a defense at the

715
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: NFL level, so he's new at this, and so I

716
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: would imagine that Sean McDermott would probably take on if,

717
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: in fact, the decision is made that Babbage is going

718
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: to call the defense, that coach McDermott is probably going

719
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: to kind of shepherd him through that and maybe way

720
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: in or provide input things of that nature, whether it's

721
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: through the course of the preseason and he says.

722
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: Oh, this guy's got it. We're good, you.

723
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 4: Know, right, And I'll say this too. It comes down to,

724
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 4: you know, once you start, it's not like you don't

725
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 4: have conversations ongoing. They'll go through and like in a

726
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: specific point in the game and he'll say listen on

727
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 4: third and eight, they're in the third quarter on that

728
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 4: second drive. What were you thinking on third and eight

729
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: when you called this defense? And why'd you do this?

730
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 4: And Babbage will come up and say, well, here's what

731
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 4: I was thinking. D da da da da da And

732
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 4: McDermot will say, I get it. But as Ted think

733
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: about this, go think this da da da da da,

734
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 4: you know, and he'll say, oh, I got you. Yeah,

735
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: And they'll they'll have conversations like that and and and

736
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: let's face it, Sean McDermott has you know, he's got

737
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 4: some pretty he's got some he's got some pretty good

738
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: chops as a defensive coordinator himself, you know, even this

739
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: with this last year and before he got the head

740
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: coaching job. So he's a guy who could mentor a

741
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 4: lot of young coaches, let alone the guy on his staff.

742
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 4: So I'm sure Bobby Babbage is gonna say, hey, what

743
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 4: do you do? What are you about this here? If

744
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,399
Speaker 4: he hasn't already had those conversations. And I'll say this too.

745
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 4: I mean, there's probably other guys on the staff that

746
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: were up for this defensive coordinatorship. He put Bobby Babbage

747
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: based on the interview process. So he kind of has

748
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: an idea of where Bobby's head is. Anyway, it's a

749
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: the coaching staff. We all get this thing where it's

750
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: employer employee with a head coach and it employees the

751
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 4: staff and they you know, that's not how you that's

752
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 4: not how these guys lead. That's not how Sean McDermott

753
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: Lea's not how the great ones do that.

754
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 3: It's a team.

755
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: Sean's there to help Bob Babbage. Bob Babbage there to

756
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 4: help Sean, and Bob Babbage is there to help Joe Brady.

757
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 4: He's there to help all these all these new guys

758
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: are coming. They're there to help each other. Let's all

759
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 4: be successful. So it's not like Sean McDermott's up there

760
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: sitting there at a big chair at the end of

761
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 4: the table, although he may in a conference room with

762
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 4: his you know, and just making these pontifications to all

763
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 4: these are the guys and carry out his wishes. It's

764
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: all a team effort and they all collaborate and they

765
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: all offer things and they all have a voice, and

766
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 4: so it's it's you know, these guys are coming in here,

767
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: all the new guys that they're accumulating and all the

768
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 4: guys that have been there in the past and the

769
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 4: guys who are being advanced within the building. They're all

770
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 4: there to help and they're able to talk and have

771
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 4: real conversations with the head coach about how things should

772
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 4: go and how they are going and how how they

773
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 4: got to where they are. So don't get the idea

774
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: that And certainly Sean has the final word on all

775
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 4: of that stuff, but.

776
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: It doesn't rule with an iron.

777
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's face it. You've seen the guy in press conferences.

778
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,479
Speaker 4: You've seen it. The guy you know he's there to listen.

779
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: He'll listen. He may not like what he's hearing, and

780
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: he may overrule it, but at least you know you

781
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 4: were heard. And that's what leadership is. And they got

782
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 4: to get it's a collaborative effort. Don't forget that yet.

783
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: He's got to be a facilitator for his staff. Let

784
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: his staff do their job that you hired him to

785
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: do in.

786
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: The first place.

787
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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, more of your phone calls

788
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: when we come back here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned,

789
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: all right, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker back with you here

790
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: on a Thursday. What did the changes to the Bill's

791
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: coaching staff say to you about next season, back to

792
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: the phones and to Bob in Buffalo next, what's up, Bob.

793
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 7: Hey, gentlemen, how are good good?

794
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 11: I actually didn't call about that, but tonight's the NFL Awards,

795
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 11: and I was wondering what your thought would be if

796
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 11: Josh wins the MVP, with people around the league would

797
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 11: be saying about it. You know, personally, I think he should.

798
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 11: I still say the Bills had the best team in

799
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 11: the NFL this year and last year and so on.

800
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 11: But it'd be interesting to see what other people will

801
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 11: say about that if he wins.

802
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's no question it would take a

803
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 4: lot of people by surprise, just because of the fact

804
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 4: that the narrative around it has been that he turns

805
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 4: the ball over too much. And that's the one that's

806
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 4: the one thing you can say about Josh's game that

807
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 4: it is. You know that that's the only criticism you

808
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 4: can make. And when I said it before, you know,

809
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: most people say Josh turns it over too much. Bill's fans,

810
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: Bills coaches, Bill's players say no, he doesn't. Numbers say

811
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 4: he turns it over. He throws more interceptions in everybody,

812
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: But he throws more touchdowns than everybody too. He makes

813
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: more plays than everybody too. His play makes the Buffer

814
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: Little Bills impossible to beat by more than one possession

815
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 4: in every game. You're even if you play your best,

816
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: if he doesn't help you win, you can't beat this

817
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 4: team because of him. Uh So, I'm I'm with you

818
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 4: on that. I think he would get the I think

819
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: it would be a shock to people and they wouldn't

820
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: have a problem getting their mind around it because the

821
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 4: people who vote on it really do know what they're

822
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: talking about. As much as we hate to admit it,

823
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 4: they take it all into account. And you can say that,

824
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 4: and I think for most people who don't vote for Josh,

825
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 4: the only reason is because the turnover number gives them

826
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 4: an excuse not to That's that's it. I'm kind of

827
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: with you, Bob, I agree. So for the NFL Awards,

828
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 4: Josh will be there, and he's gonna get He's gonna

829
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 4: be in the conversation. He will be in the conversation

830
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 4: next year. He'll be in the conversation of the year

831
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: after that as well. If he ever gets one, it'll

832
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: be because the rest of the team, you know, because

833
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 4: the rest of the team plays a little better and

834
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: they get over the hump and they get into the

835
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 4: big game, that'll probably put him over the top.

836
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's certainly deserving to be the MVP. Became the

837
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: first player in NFL history with forty offensive touchdowns or

838
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: more and four straight seasons. His production is undeniable. He's

839
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: the most productive quarterback in football over the last four years.

840
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: None of that can be denied.

841
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 3: To me. That is MVP worthy.

842
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: But sadly, I don't think the narrative's going to change

843
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: until he wins the Super Bowl. There's still going to

844
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: be naysayers out there even if he wins the MVP.

845
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but I just think that's

846
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: the way everything works. Steve was just talking about Kyle Shanahan.

847
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: He's being criticized for all his mismanagement in the big games.

848
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: That's not going to change until he wins the Super Bowl.

849
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: And unfortunately, I think that the narrative is the same

850
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 2: for Josh. He's gonna have to win the whole thing

851
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: before people finally shut up about it.

852
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 3: That's just I just think too.

853
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 2: It's too critical a world that we live in, especially

854
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: in the NFL. It's just it doesn't change until you

855
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: win a ring. I hate to say it, but I

856
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: think the naysayers will still be out there until a

857
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: championship becomes a reality.

858
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 5: I don't know.

859
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 3: I don't think it's right, but I think that's probably

860
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: the way.

861
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 4: And I've heard I've heard too that they don't. There's

862
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 4: a lot of people that don't think Damar Hamlin is

863
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: gonna win the Comeback Player of the Year award. I

864
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 4: don't know how anybody else can even get into the

865
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: conversation with Damar Hamlin. Joe Flacco came back from saying

866
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: no to a contract saying yes to a contract. That's

867
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 4: his comeback. Baker Mayfield came back from stinking to being

868
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 4: on a really good team. I don't know who else

869
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 4: is even in that conversation. Damorrow was folks, Damar was

870
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: dead and came back. That's the only guy that I

871
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: can laugh about it now because bless his heart, we

872
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 4: see and we joke around with him all the time. Now,

873
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: that is the only guy that's even in the conversation

874
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 4: for me. And he may not win it. I don't know.

875
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 4: He may not win it because he didn't come back.

876
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 4: He wasn't a start, He wasn't all pro. You know,

877
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 4: he played off and on throughout the season. But goodness gracious,

878
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: there's nobody else in even in that conversation.

879
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: As you said a couple of weeks ago, nobody came

880
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: back more than he did, from more than.

881
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 4: He had to come back from further down than the him.

882
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 4: Goodness gracious and bless his heart. Man, he's great. We

883
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 4: see him all that. He's a great dude. He's he

884
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 4: is himself all the time, and it's it's a gift

885
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: that you know, the more we see it, Brownie, and

886
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 4: I see you know, you kind of take it for

887
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 4: granted though. Yeah, he's doing good. He's gray. But man o,

888
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 4: man bro, Yeah, there ain't nobody else in that conversation.

889
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze Barb in Holland here before we go to

890
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: the break.

891
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 3: What's up, Barb?

892
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 5: Hi, guys, how are you good?

893
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 12: Just calling today to say I think they're trying to

894
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 12: specialize the coaching staff is trying to specialize individually the

895
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 12: individuals on the team for next year. I heard a

896
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 12: comment this morning about k kr Elam and how it

897
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 12: seems that he needs some individual help, you know, specializing

898
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 12: in maybe coming a little farther than he's been, and

899
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 12: that kind of seems to me what they're doing. They

900
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 12: didn't lose the Super they didn't lose the divisional game

901
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 12: by only three points, and if it hadn't been that

902
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 12: we lost every defensive player we had, we probably would

903
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 12: have went. So I agree with Steve. I don't want

904
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 12: to watch the Super Bowl.

905
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 5: I could care.

906
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 12: Less, and it's only because I love the Bills the

907
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 12: way I do that that will probably never change anyways.

908
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 12: I think they're trying to specialize.

909
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 4: Thanks bar and Barb, go ahead and watch Super Bowl.

910
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 4: I'm going to even though I I, you know, don't care.

911
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: Go ahead and watch it. It's and be entertained because

912
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: it's the last football we're gonna get for a long time.

913
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

914
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: What has changed is the Bills had a secondary coach.

915
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: Now they have a cornerbacks and safeties coach. So if

916
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: you want to talk about specialization perspective, yes you have

917
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,479
Speaker 2: that now. You can't deny that you have a coach

918
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: specifically working with corners and you have a coach specifically

919
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: working with safeties. They had two people doing that, they

920
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: just had different titles. One was one was a secondary coach.

921
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: The other was a safety's coach, So it's it's a

922
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: little bit of a different thing in terms of title,

923
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 2: and maybe the specialization will be more fine tuned in

924
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: that way, catching catching, the you know the nuance there

925
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: that they're gonna have a cornerbacks coach.

926
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 4: You're right, it's a good observation.

927
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: Right, and then you know you've got Al Holcombe handling

928
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: linebackers now after being a senior offensive assistant with you know,

929
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: Bobby Babbage on a defensive coordinator.

930
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see.

931
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, maybe they want to divide and conquer

932
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: that on the back end a little bit, especially knowing

933
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: there's a good chance the group on the back end

934
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: is gonna get considerably younger, So maybe individual attention is

935
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: more required on a day to day basis as their

936
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: operation goes.

937
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: We are up against the break.

938
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: Got a step aside here when we come back, our

939
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 2: number two will begin with our colleague Maddy glab As.

940
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: It is time for us to do what you say.

941
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: It's that time of the year. It's mock draftwise one

942
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: point oh, gonna be taking a look at some defensive

943
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: backs here when we return. On one Bill's Live presented

944
00:50:39,960 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: by Collide Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

945
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: The one Bills Live, presented by Calllida Health.

946
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: All right, welcome to our number two here on a Thursday,

947
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and we're joined by our colleague

948
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: Matty Glab. Why she is here will be mentioned in

949
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: one second. There is some other news concerning Buffalo's coaching staff.

950
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,479
Speaker 2: They have named Matt Edwards their new assistant defensive line coach.

951
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: So Marcus West, who had been their assistant d line coach,

952
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: moves up to defensive line coach, replacing Eric Washington who

953
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 2: went to Chicago to be a defensive coordinator. And now

954
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 2: Matt Edwards takes Marcus West spot on the coaching staff

955
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: as assistant defensive line coach. For more on that, you

956
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: can go to Buffalo Bills dot com. But the coaching

957
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: staff continuing to get additions here in the off season.

958
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 2: Now to the topic at hand, Mock Draft Watch one

959
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 2: point oh and Mock Draft Watch and Buffalo Bill's draft

960
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: coverage is presented by Ticketmaster. And as we know, because

961
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: she's been doing this the last few years, culling together

962
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: every mock draft under the sun.

963
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 3: Of any repute, say.

964
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 4: This is the best thing ever, because you know everybody

965
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 4: like who they might, you know all you do, I

966
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 4: don't care who they they're who they have us taken?

967
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: Well.

968
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 4: I am so glad Maddie Storts because this is the

969
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 4: one stop I do this for you. And I appreciate

970
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: it too because this is my favorite segment of the

971
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: entire offseason. So I don't have to look at nine

972
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: thousand block drafts.

973
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: And the one for you, the one stop shopping for you,

974
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: which appears on Buffalo bills dot com. So if you

975
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 2: want to see this, you know online, that is where

976
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: you go. As she pulls them all together, puts them

977
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 2: in a one convenient list for you, and we try

978
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: to make suppositions and you know it's speculation about it.

979
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Brownie try.

980
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: To Adam up.

981
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 4: See who's going with Brownie? And everybody's on the wide

982
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: receiver train, right, everybody, We're gonna let's go, man, We're

983
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 4: gonna go. And then the first mock draft, I see

984
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: they got us taken a safety.

985
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, what.

986
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 9: Right?

987
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: We can wait on seeing really, but we're gonna go

988
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 2: over some dbs.

989
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, nonetheless, just in case.

990
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,439
Speaker 13: Case, we're gonna talk about the wide receivers, but wide

991
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 13: receivers are already being talked about, so I figured let's

992
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 13: start elsewhere and then we'll get to the wide receivers eventually,

993
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 13: at least during this segment we will. I know you

994
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 13: guys have already started to talk about some of the

995
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 13: wide receivers out there, and of course everybody's seen them

996
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 13: on the mock drafts. Because I've tracked fifteen so far,

997
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 13: and of those fifteen, eight wide receivers have been mocked

998
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 13: to the Buffalo Bills at that number twenty eight spot.

999
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 13: So they're the favorite right now. I would guess they're

1000
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 13: gonna be the favorite for a while. Again, we're gonna

1001
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 13: see what's going to happen during free agency. We're going

1002
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 13: to see what spots are filled through free agency, and

1003
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 13: then we'll see all of this kind of shift to

1004
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 13: what's left for the Buffalo Bills to tackle through the draft.

1005
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 13: Number two on the list of the fifteen we've tracked

1006
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 13: so far for defensive backs, that's two DB's, one cornerback

1007
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 13: and one safety. And we'll talk about the guy who's

1008
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 13: being labeled as a dB right now because we'll see

1009
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 13: what he plays in the NFL. He played cornerback in college.

1010
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 13: Some people would like to see him at safety in

1011
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 13: the NFL. Some people think he's a true cornerback. We

1012
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 13: will see one offensive tackle, two defensive tackles as well,

1013
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 13: So I don't know if we'll see many offensive linemen

1014
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 13: in the first round going to the Buffalo Bills, but.

1015
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 3: We'll see probably not.

1016
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 6: But but you know what think yeah, you think about it, ego,

1017
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 6: And we've had this conversation too, because as you can see,

1018
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 6: wide receiver, defensive back or corner, defensive tackle, offensive tackle

1019
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 6: for money position, they're the they're the most important.

1020
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: Positions on the field outside of the quarterback. And the

1021
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 4: Bills aren't certainly aren't going in that direction high in

1022
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 4: this draft. So it makes some sense, no question. And

1023
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: we have said too, it's a it's a balance between

1024
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 4: you get a guy who's gifted that that is off

1025
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: the charts, genetically separate, and also you know all the stuff,

1026
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 4: he's got to check all the boxes, but he may

1027
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 4: not be in a position you really need, right, It's

1028
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 4: a it's a hard thing. It's a hard thing to

1029
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: get around when you get a guy like that that

1030
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 4: drops to you or whatever. But and I'll say this

1031
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 4: to you. I've told him, the big time white like

1032
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior is never dropping out of the top

1033
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 4: five or six, let alone the twenty eight. And guys

1034
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 4: like him you just never get a shot at.

1035
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 13: When you're good, like the Bills are.

1036
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 4: You're not.

1037
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 3: To mention, you can't really control what happens in front

1038
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: of you.

1039
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 13: So you're you're you never know when the run on

1040
00:55:59,320 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 13: wide receivers.

1041
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 3: This your power is.

1042
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 4: Limited, so do you and I? And I know this too,

1043
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 4: And somebody brought this up on the tweets sheet of

1044
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 4: all things yesterday. I forgot. And he's right. Brandon Bean's

1045
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 4: gonna fill all the holes before the draft anyway, as

1046
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: many as possible, as many as possible. There'll be some

1047
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 4: question marks and all that, and but they're gonna have

1048
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 4: guys on the roster. They're gonna say, man, he's got

1049
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 4: a chance to be pretty good or you know all that,

1050
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 4: so they can take the best guy available. That's who

1051
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 4: you want to be able to do. But still I

1052
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 4: have a hard time getting the point where I'm gonna

1053
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 4: take a corner.

1054
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:35,959
Speaker 3: Right.

1055
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: All that being said, though, we're gonna go down this

1056
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: path anyway, So let's go in alphabetical order here, Maddie,

1057
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: and we're starting with the kid from Iowa.

1058
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 13: All right, and we're starting with the kid from Iowa.

1059
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 13: We know this coaching staff likes players from Iowa because

1060
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 13: we've seen a few on the roster. Aj Epanessa, Micah

1061
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 13: High to name a couple of guys on the defensive

1062
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 13: side here, but we're gonna talk about defensive back Cooper Dejene.

1063
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 13: He's a junior six one, two hundred and three pounds.

1064
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 13: He played in thirty games, started in twenty three in

1065
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 13: his three seasons. His last year twenty twenty three, ended

1066
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 13: early because of a lower leg injury that happened and

1067
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 13: practiced in November, so he didn't see a full season

1068
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 13: from him in his junior year. But in his career

1069
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 13: he had seven interceptions, three or three he returned for touchdowns.

1070
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 13: I want to get that right. He had all of

1071
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 13: those during his sophomore seasons. Twenty passes, defense, five TFLs,

1072
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 13: and one hundred and twenty total tackles. That was during

1073
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 13: his career. His best season came into sophomore year, when

1074
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 13: he had a full year to play. Five interceptions, those

1075
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 13: three that he returned for touchdowns thirteen passes defense. So

1076
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 13: this was a productive player and then you see the

1077
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 13: accolades that go along with it.

1078
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 12: He was a.

1079
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 13: Unanimous consensus All American. He was first team All Big

1080
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 13: Ten in twenty twenty three, was finalists on a Cup

1081
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 13: of the Big lists for defensive players, specifically defensive backs.

1082
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 13: He played in the slot and out wide during his career.

1083
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 13: When you turn on the tape on this player, you

1084
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 13: look at his athleticism, his good size, he looks instinctive, strong,

1085
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 13: He knows how to get his hands on the football

1086
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 13: and is great against this against the run. I think

1087
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 13: that's really one of his big gifts in one of

1088
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 13: his strengths when you're watching tape on him, he has

1089
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 13: a knack for finding the finding the end zone when

1090
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 13: he picks off balls, because he had three that he

1091
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 13: returned for touchdowns during his sophomore season out of those

1092
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 13: five interceptions that he had. He's got a good feel

1093
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 13: for the ball and it shows with the way that

1094
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 13: he moves to it. He's smooth and fluid, He's got

1095
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 13: nice feet. He does a good job of reading the quarterback.

1096
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 13: He can bait a quarterback into making plays, and he

1097
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 13: knows when he can really pursue the football and pick

1098
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 13: it off. I really liked watching that on film. It

1099
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 13: doesn't it doesn't look like he's always over committing to

1100
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 13: a play. It looks like he knows where the ball's

1101
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 13: gonna go. He knows if he can jump in front

1102
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 13: of a wide receiver and then he'll do that. I

1103
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 13: think he can help with the run coverage on this team.

1104
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 13: He can shed blocks, He's a good tackler. Is he

1105
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 13: going to be a corner or a safety? It kind

1106
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 13: of depends on what team he's looking at her or

1107
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 13: what scouts think of him. Would they rather have him

1108
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 13: in that cornerback position or would they rather see him

1109
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 13: transition to a safety. He definitely flashed on film as

1110
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 13: a cornerback. And if you're looking at what the Bills

1111
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 13: need with positions quarterback, I don't know if that's a

1112
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 13: top tier need for them right now.

1113
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: Safety.

1114
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 13: You look at the departure of Micah Hyde. Who knows

1115
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 13: what's going to happen. Is he going to be in

1116
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 13: Buffalo for another season? Is he going to go elsewhere?

1117
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 13: Is his career going to, you know, be over? Is

1118
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 13: he going to retire? We're not sure what's gonna happen there.

1119
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,959
Speaker 13: We know Jordan Poyer still has one more year left

1120
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 13: on his contract with the Bills, but Micah Hyde is

1121
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 13: now a free agent.

1122
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 3: So is Taylor Rapp, and so is camb Lowe.

1123
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 13: Yeah, so safety maybe a position of need for this

1124
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 13: team as you enter the draft. We're not sure what's

1125
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 13: going to happen in free agency with that position group.

1126
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 13: But if you're looking at safety, you might want to

1127
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 13: peek at this guy. Do you, guys think he's more

1128
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 13: of a cornerback? Do you think he's a safety? Do

1129
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 13: you think he could transition to a safety?

1130
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1131
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 4: I think it's safety all the way.

1132
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's he's probably more of a safety.

1133
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: There's some quick twitch that I don't think he has

1134
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 2: in his game that would lend itself better to playing corner.

1135
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the quick twitch, at least from the

1136
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: limited film I've seen of him. That's not say he

1137
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: can't play out there in a pinch, but his versatility

1138
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: I think is what is attractive here. And let's not

1139
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: forget it was a corner who played at Iowa a

1140
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: long time ago, who played outside corner, played slot and

1141
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: returned kicks and punts because this kid, Dejen returns kicks

1142
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: and punts also so did that.

1143
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 3: His name was Micah Hyde.

1144
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: I mean, this kid does everything that Micah Hyde did

1145
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: in college, played at the same.

1146
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 4: Schools that kind of high incredibly high football IQ so smart.

1147
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 4: So that's you know.

1148
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: I first I first saw him play when Iowa played

1149
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: Minnesota and it's a tie game, low scoring game. They

1150
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: punt the ball away and Dejeane's the returner and it's

1151
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: a bouncing ball along the sideline and he scoops it

1152
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: up and then returns at fifty yards for what should

1153
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: have been the game winning touchdown, and the officials flag

1154
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: him because they said he signaled for a fair catch

1155
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: when all he was doing was telling his teammates get

1156
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: away from the ball like this, like right here, just

1157
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: under his chest. And they said, oh no, you signaled

1158
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 2: for a fair catch, so you can't advance the ball,

1159
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: and they called the touchdown back.

1160
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: Iowa lost him game.

1161
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 4: That's another time when the officiating needs to be exploded.

1162
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 3: But so yeah, but I see instincts with this kid,

1163
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 3: and I think.

1164
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 13: He looks like a smart football player.

1165
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: The only problem.

1166
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: The only problem, as it pertains to the Bills and

1167
01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: their safety need is the kids never played safety full

1168
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: time before, and it's like, what kind of investment do

1169
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: you want to make in your safety position with a

1170
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: guy that might need a little time on the job

1171
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: before he can help you on the field and you

1172
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: trust him there. To me, that's the it's the learning

1173
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 2: curve question that is very hard to answer until you

1174
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 2: see him playing the position. Now, there could be a

1175
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: whole multitude of things that happen here in the offseason.

1176
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: Is Christian Benford still a consideration at safety? And then

1177
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 2: do you look at him more as a corner? So

1178
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: there are a lot of balls in the air. I

1179
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 2: think with the safety position for Buffalo that I don't

1180
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: know if you want to put your eggs in the

1181
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: Degene basket and say, well, we project him there, but

1182
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: we don't need him to be our number two safety.

1183
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 3: That's the rub for me.

1184
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 4: He is extremely high in this entire class of defensive backs, cornerback, safeties,

1185
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 4: whichever one you want to be. He's very high ranked,

1186
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 4: highly ranked in all the scouting services as to one

1187
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 4: of the top defensive backs at corner or safety, and

1188
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 4: I think that comes back to his IQ. He's also

1189
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 4: six ' one two o five. So he's a big

1190
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 4: enough kid.

1191
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 13: Yeah, he looks big.

1192
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 4: And he's thick, and he's fast enough at four five.

1193
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 4: But you're right, the explosion is what you really need.

1194
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: But I'll say that if he's as smart as he

1195
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: seems to be, that's going to overcome a ton. It's like, Micah,

1196
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, you just come across a cross

1197
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 4: guys that smart.

1198
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: He's the kind of guy that you expect Brandon Bean

1199
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: when he describes me to say.

1200
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 3: He's just a football player. Yeah, because that's what he is.

1201
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1202
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 13: He's number twelve on mel Kuiper's Big Board top twenty

1203
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 13: five players. And uh, if you read what mel Kiper

1204
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 13: Junior had to say on him, it was that when

1205
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 13: he was watching film of guys like Lucas van Ness

1206
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 13: and Jack Campbell and Riley Moss in the last couple

1207
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 13: of years, he kept looking at Cooper Dejeen and was wondering, Okay,

1208
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 13: when is this kid gonna come out? He's very impressive.

1209
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 13: I like what I see from him, he said. He's

1210
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 13: as he's just silky as a coverman. And I think

1211
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 13: you see that when you watch the tape on him.

1212
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 13: So he's a player like you said, Steve, a lot

1213
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 13: of the analysts are speaking very highly of him. But

1214
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 13: it'll depend on if you want to spend a first

1215
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 13: round pick on somebody. Who is he going to be

1216
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 13: guaranteed to pop at safety in the NFL. I don't

1217
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 13: know if that question can be yes right away. You

1218
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 13: might need to see that from him first.

1219
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: He's a projection, and I think because of that, I

1220
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: think his value suffers because he's not a sure thing.

1221
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 2: He's to me, he's not a sure thing at corner

1222
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 2: to be a first round pick if you want to

1223
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 2: take him in round two or you know, maybe even

1224
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe even later. I mean mel Kiper

1225
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: loves him, that's obvious. But if you're projecting him to

1226
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: safety and you haven't seen him play there, to me,

1227
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: you move him down your board because the projection is longer,

1228
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 2: it's less of a sure thing.

1229
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 3: To me, that's the way the value works. But I

1230
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 3: could be wrong. Let's move to a guy who is

1231
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: more of a true safety.

1232
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 13: Yep. It is Cam Kitchens from Miami. He's a junior

1233
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 13: as well as six tall, two hundred and five pounds.

1234
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 13: He played in thirty four games, started in twenty six

1235
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 13: in his career, he has eleven interceptions, two returned, four touchdowns,

1236
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 13: twenty six passes defense, two forced fumbles, five TFLs, a

1237
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 13: sack won, sixty two total tackles. He had six of

1238
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 13: those eleven interceptions last season or in twenty twenty two,

1239
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 13: five interceptions in twenty twenty three, so all of those

1240
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 13: interceptions coming in the last two seasons from him. He's

1241
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 13: been All acc first team in the last two seasons.

1242
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 13: In twenty twenty two, he was All America first team

1243
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 13: and first thoughts. When you watch some tape on this guy,

1244
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 13: he puts his body on the line for the football.

1245
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 13: He plays with the motor. He hits hard, He's got

1246
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 13: some pop to him. He has nice hands. He can

1247
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 13: track the football very well. He has quick feet and

1248
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 13: can get to the ball quickly. I think this helps

1249
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 13: in run coverage. Playing that safety position, you have to

1250
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 13: cover a lot of land if you're going to help

1251
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 13: and run coverage, and he can definitely do that. He

1252
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 13: does a really good job I think of reading and

1253
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 13: reacting to a quarterback. He can recognize routes and make

1254
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 13: decisions off what's what he's seeing in the drop of

1255
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 13: a hat. The way that he can make the field

1256
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 13: look so small. I think is one of his most

1257
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 13: impressive traits. This guy can cover a lot of land

1258
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 13: and make it look really easy. So that's what stood

1259
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 13: out to me when I watched some film on Cam Kitchens.

1260
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 13: I think he's a very athletic player. I love that

1261
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 13: he plays hard. He plays with some pop. His hits

1262
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 13: look very hard, and it looks like he can get

1263
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 13: anywhere he needs to go quite quickly.

1264
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a hitter. I don't think there's any question

1265
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 3: about that. He's kind of built.

1266
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 2: He's got almost like a linebacker build, even though he's

1267
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: only two hundred and six pounds.

1268
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 3: But he's thick, thickly.

1269
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 4: Built a six foot so yeah, that's why he brings that,

1270
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: you know, some of the other scouting stuff on him.

1271
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 4: He's he got elite center field capabilities. He gets from

1272
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 4: sideline to sideline very well. He's quick to decide and

1273
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 4: get to the football, doesn't waste any motion. He anticipates

1274
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 4: really well. He can handle tight ends and coverage as

1275
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 4: a safety, and I think he is Taylor May. I

1276
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 4: like this this guy. I like this guy better than

1277
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 4: Dejene for the Bills. That because he's a safety.

1278
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: Well, right, And I think what's going to be interesting

1279
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: here is where they feel the ideal fit is for

1280
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: him at safety, because I think some teams are going

1281
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 2: to look at him and his build and say, oh,

1282
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: he's a box safety because he's built like a linebacker.

1283
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 3: He's thick, and he can hit. You know he can.

1284
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: He can even meet a running back in a hole

1285
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: and make a tackle. But how he times that the

1286
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: combine may change people's mind.

1287
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 4: Now.

1288
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: He when he tested at Miami's pro day last year,

1289
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: because you know, they have the underclassmen run and everything

1290
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 2: to get eyeballs on them. Early he ran a four

1291
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 2: four five. Now that's at Miami on their watch, we'll

1292
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 2: see what it means. But if he runs in the

1293
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: four fours at the combine, yeah, he's he's a guy

1294
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 2: that can cut be a half field safety in the NFL.

1295
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. But also and most of the staff, like Brandon Beaning,

1296
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 4: all the scouts, they're like, yeah, the forty times is

1297
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Speaker 4: all that good? Remember, famously, they don't care how they run.

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Speaker 4: They watched the film, right, If the guy looks good

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Speaker 4: on film, if he plays fast enough on film, they

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Speaker 4: don't care if he runs a six flat forty because

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Speaker 4: they'll have a guy that nobody else is gonna want

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Speaker 4: and they're gonna get him because they see him on film.

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Speaker 4: That kind of is you know, famously he's saying, hey,

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Speaker 4: run slow, you know, so nobody likes it that, you know,

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Speaker 4: So you get a guy like that, and that's the

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Speaker 4: film tells these guys everything they want to know. And Kitchens,

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Speaker 4: I think, Kinchins, I think this guy is. I think

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Speaker 4: he's gonna be got a chance to be a star.

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Speaker 4: I really do. Also, he came out, he was like

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Speaker 4: a three star recruited. He get a good guy and

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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, he you know, he spread

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Speaker 4: his wings. I mean, he got into an environment that

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Speaker 4: was really good for him and he had a little

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Speaker 4: bit of something to prove maybe, And the guy absolutely

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Speaker 4: exploded onto the scene in Miami. And that's that says

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Speaker 4: something now. And you know who else the Bills didn't

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Speaker 4: the Bills just get a guy from Miami.

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Speaker 3: Oh the Corners coach.

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Speaker 13: Jamiele and I, yeah, Steve is already connecting the dots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you go, Steve.

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Speaker 2: Last guy on the list had a big week at

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Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl, really separated himself as a premier corner

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Speaker 2: in this draft class and he is corner only.

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Speaker 13: Yes, so he comes out of Toledo and yeah, I

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Speaker 13: was gonna say he has had a lot of buzz since

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Speaker 13: his performance in the Senior Bowl Miss Mitchell. He's a

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Speaker 13: junior six feet one hundred and ninety six pounds, played

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Speaker 13: in forty six games as a three year starter. In

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Speaker 13: his career, six interceptions, two that he returned for touchdowns,

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Speaker 13: fifty two passes defense, six and a half TFLs, won,

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Speaker 13: twenty two total tackles. He has a second team All America,

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Speaker 13: earned that honor in twenty twenty three and in the

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Speaker 13: last two seas first team All Max So has some

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Speaker 13: awards there that he's received for his good play in

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Speaker 13: the last few seasons. And when you turn on the tape,

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Speaker 13: he's a really good coverage defender. He's just solid at that.

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Speaker 13: He's athletic, he's a good tackler, has nice awareness of

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Speaker 13: the ball and what the quarterback is doing at all times.

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Speaker 13: He can read and react very quickly. He is a

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Speaker 13: disruptor when it comes to going against wide receivers. You

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Speaker 13: see that in his makeup, in his body six feet

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Speaker 13: it's not like he's six ' five, but he plays

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Speaker 13: pretty tall and he can run with just about everybody.

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Speaker 13: He doesn't have that burst of speed right off the bat,

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Speaker 13: but he has build up speed and it looks like

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Speaker 13: he can hang in there with anybody.

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Speaker 4: This says he's got a seventy five and six to

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Speaker 4: eight wingspan.

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Speaker 2: He's a very long limbed athlete, so even though he's

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Speaker 2: only six foot, he plays taller than that. Yes, with

1351
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: long arms, I'm curious to see. I gotta go back

1352
01:10:58,520 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: and look at the Senior Bowl with his arms. Man,

1353
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 2: But he had a great Senior Bowl week, and this

1354
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 2: is an example of a quick twitch athlete, someone who

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Speaker 2: can mirror people in coverage. Yes, he had six interceptions,

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: four of them came in one game against Northern Illinois.

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Speaker 2: He had fifty two pass breakups. As Maddy mentioned, I

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01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: think the last hurdle for him to be a premier

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01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: corner in the NFL is he has to turn more

1360
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Speaker 2: of those PBUs into takeaways because he is in position

1361
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: a lot and for whatever reason, does not come up

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Speaker 2: with the football. And I think that's the last hurdle

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Speaker 2: for him. He does that, he is a potential Pro

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Speaker 2: Bowl corner talent.

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Speaker 3: For the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna come off the board early. He's

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Speaker 2: like first fifteen picks guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be great if he You know, some

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01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 4: of these guys, you know, like we say, it's a

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01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 4: roll of dice, you don't know if you're going to

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Speaker 4: even be available when the Bills pick let alone, if

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Speaker 4: the Bill's going to pick a corner. I think this

1373
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 4: guy's long gone. And certainly you can see some stuff

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 4: we've seen happen other years where all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: instead of three or four offensive tackles going six go,

1376
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Speaker 4: and then there's six edge rushers that go instead of four,

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01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 4: and then you got four picks that are dropping and

1378
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,880
Speaker 4: dropping and dropping, and you get to twenty eight in

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Speaker 4: the first round. That means something, That really means something,

1380
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 4: because you could get a guy that was projecting the

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Speaker 4: top twenty to drop to twenty eight.

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01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 13: And in mel Kiper's big board that I was talking

1384
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 13: about earlier, of his best twenty five prospects, Cooper de

1385
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 13: jen was twelve. Well, Mitchell Quinyan Mitchell is seventeen, so

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01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 13: he's not far down from Cooper Dejen as one of

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01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 13: the best prospects in this draft class, and the twenty

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01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 13: twenty four draft class. So it'll be interesting to see

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 13: how these numbers change for these guys on the board

1390
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 13: right now when we're looking at these mock drafts, these

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01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 13: guys are available at number twenty eight. But will a

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01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 13: guy like Mitchell start to rise up the board, start

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01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 13: to rise up mock drafts as we get into the

1394
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 13: combine as and as we see some more of these

1395
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 13: solid numbers in terms of measurements and forty yard dash

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01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 13: and three cone and all those things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the fun part is thinking about as I get

1398
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 4: back to this, is thinking about the bills and where

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 4: they're going to be. You know, when this you know

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01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 4: who's going to be available at twenty because there's going

1401
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 4: to be somebody there who we didn't think was going

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01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 4: to be there at twenty eight, and there's going to

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01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 4: be somebody there at sixty. There's you know, these these

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01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 4: top three picks, we have three picks inside the top

1405
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,919
Speaker 4: one hundred players. They're going to get three really good athletes,

1406
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 4: some guys that really have some promise. I think it's

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01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 4: going to be a lot of fun to see where

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01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 4: that happens and how that happens.

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01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon Bean put the pressure on himself because he said,

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 2: we really got to hit on this draft because he

1411
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: knows they need an injection of youth, they need cheap

1412
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 2: labor because of their cap situation, so they want to

1413
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: hit on every draft. But you can almost tell, I

1414
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 2: mean he's saying that in January, he's already feeling I

1415
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: don't want to say he feels the pressure, but I

1416
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: think he feels the gravity and the importance of this

1417
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 2: draft for this team going forward, because he knows, maybe

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01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 2: more than any other year, they're really going to have

1419
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 2: to rely on some young players to play some significant

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01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: roles on this football team this coming.

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01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 13: Season and after this past season. When he spoke to

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01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 13: the media to kind of wrap up this year, he said,

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01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 13: you know, look at what we got from guys like

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01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 13: don't Concate in Osiris, Torrance. These were two rookies who

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 13: played big time roles on this team, and we might

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01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 13: need that from guys that we draft in this year's

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01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 13: draft class.

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Speaker 2: Maddie, thanks for bringing us up to speed on box

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Speaker 2: draft probably one point zero, which is presented by a ticketmaster.

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Speaker 3: Any idea on the calendar for two point.

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Speaker 13: Zero, I believe will release it early next week. I

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 13: think We're going to go weekly with these. There's going

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Speaker 13: to be ten total.

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01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, we'll keep an eye out

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Speaker 2: for it. In the meantime, digest Mock Draft one point zero.

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Speaker 4: It's my favorite segment of the off season.

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Speaker 3: All right. So that's Mock Draft one point oh presented

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Speaker 3: by a Ticketmaster.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with Maddie with the next edition, presumably

1440
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: sometime next week. But if you want to get a

1441
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 2: full look at it, you just go to Buffalo Bills

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01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: dot com. We'll take a break here, be back with more,

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Speaker 2: including your phone calls. Next on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. What do the

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: changes to the Bills coaching staff say to you about

1446
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 2: next season? In case you missed it, we announced it

1447
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 2: at the top of the hour, The Bills have made

1448
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: another coaching staff edition, naming Matt Edwards assistant defensive line coach.

1449
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 2: He was the former Raiders pass rush specialist and defensive

1450
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 2: assistant coach the last two.

1451
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 3: Years in Las Vegas.

1452
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: Go back to the homes we go, and we lead

1453
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Speaker 2: off this segment with Jason in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 14: Jason Hey Fellows quick comment on a question. My philosophy

1456
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 14: for the draft is to let go and let be,

1457
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 14: and also I absolutely love what Sean McDermott did this

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01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,839
Speaker 14: season with the defense. Has there been any talk about

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 14: him remaining the play caller for the defense?

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01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: There is no clarity on that as of yet, Brandon

1461
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: being touched on it I think a week or so

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01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 2: ago and basically said it's got to be ironed out.

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01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 2: For all we know, that decision may have already been

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01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: made and Brandon Bean just didn't want to be the

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01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 2: one to make it public. He probably feels like that's

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01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott's decision to release to the public or make

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01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: publicly known. But at this point we have no clarity

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01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: on that subject. As far as your draft philosophy, I

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01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: guess what you mean by let go and let be

1470
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 2: just let the board fall as it does and then

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01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 2: react accordingly, which would seem to subscribe to a best

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01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 2: player available type approach, which we've seen being due before.

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01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 2: I mean proof of that is when he went back

1474
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: to back defensive lineman and back to back offensive lineman

1475
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty one draft because that's what was

1476
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 2: best available on the board in their mind. So it's

1477
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 2: not like he hasn't done it before. Wouldn't be stunned

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01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: if he does it again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised, especially picking a twenty

1480
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 4: eighth right. He may draft, he may trade up. I

1481
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: don't know.

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01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 3: Well, he likes doing that too.

1483
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 4: You know they've got they've got ten picks. Yeah, it

1484
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 4: takes the draft more interesting. Yeah, he'll go get a

1485
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 4: guy he believes will make a big difference. That's that's it.

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01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 4: He'll do it if he thinks there's a guy there

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01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 4: that is more of a can't miss project prospect than

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01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 4: anybody else's left. And he's got enough draft picks in

1489
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 4: this draft, maybe to flip a couple of spots.

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 2: See yeah, Uh, we go to Butcher on the east

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01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 2: side next, What do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Butcher?

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Speaker 5: First of all, Brownie, welcome back. Uh, Chris T did

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01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 5: a good job taking your place. You did an outstanding job.

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01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 5: And I just want to say welcome back and Steve

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01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 5: you you my brother. But I want to get started

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01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 5: real fast before I I want to send my condolences

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01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 5: I really do to the South Capastial family and to

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Speaker 5: the Capacitor fans. Beautiful wife and my son who I

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Speaker 5: call my nephew. Uh, I'm a I'm a dog lover

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01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 5: and Roxy their dog. They lost them today and I

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01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 5: just want to send my condolences, you know, because I

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01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 5: know how it is we call them over there. But

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01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 5: at the same time they like my kids because I

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01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 5: have two myself. But anyway, so I wanted to say

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01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 5: that first, uh, but now I want to just hit

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01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 5: tenels a couple of things. Two things really uh Uh.

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01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 5: Before Steve and I and Chris ke was talking about

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01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 5: just getting teachers and mean they got more teachers youth.

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01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 8: Uh.

1511
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 5: And I like that because we have a lot of

1512
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 5: young talent on the team that these young these young coaches,

1513
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 5: they can relate to and and and get out of.

1514
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 5: We just lost Butler. And I really believe Butler was

1515
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 5: good with Hyde Employer and Trey White and all the

1516
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 5: old older guys. But I think like Career Elm and

1517
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 5: Ben Furd and a lot of these other young with

1518
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 5: Jamarkis and all these other young cats, I don't really

1519
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 5: think he really deluded to the top of the key.

1520
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 5: He was a good coach, though I'm not saying he's

1521
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 5: got a bad coach. But I think now with a

1522
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 5: day and I really think a day is a special higher.

1523
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 5: And reason why I say A day is a special

1524
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 5: higher looking at the draft and tell the Queen Matty Glab,

1525
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 5: I really enjoyed her draft my draft. But I want

1526
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 5: to say something here. I think Brandon Being is going

1527
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 5: to go in the direction like the Philadelphia Eagles went

1528
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 5: last year and last year's draft. I think they're going

1529
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 5: to focus on one college and as these players fall,

1530
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 5: they're going to pick him up.

1531
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 2: Now.

1532
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 5: The reason why I say that is you good guys

1533
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 5: just finished talking about Brandon Being. Possibly he loves moving up.

1534
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 5: I think he's going to do opposite. Based off the

1535
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 5: losses that we had on his football team, he gonna

1536
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 5: need more bodies. I believe he's going to come back

1537
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 5: in the drafting and it's a day kid is just

1538
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,839
Speaker 5: a day coach is really a good hire. He plays

1539
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 5: coaching in the Senior Bowl on I don't forget that

1540
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 5: it was the South team whatever it was, but out

1541
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 5: of Miami, I saw I saw Maddy talking about Kitchens,

1542
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 5: which would be a strong safety or free safety. But

1543
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 5: they got a kid, James Williams, the six ' four,

1544
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 5: two hundred and thirty pounds safety out of there, who

1545
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 5: can really shut tight ends down, shut backs down, and

1546
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 5: they really He's projected as a fifth rounder or maybe

1547
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 5: fourth rounder. So I could see Brandon Bean really just

1548
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 5: going to Miami and looking at Cohen and Guard looking

1549
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 5: at Terrell Harrow, who's six foot runner, four to two forty

1550
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 5: flat out speed and he two hundred pounds and he

1551
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 5: got body weight on him. He can get him in

1552
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 5: the layers run. He projected as an undrafted free agent,

1553
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 5: but at the same time, you could pick him, actually

1554
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 5: pick him up in the seventh round when nobody else

1555
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 5: was signing. But I could really see Miami being a

1556
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 5: very key figure in the Buffalo Bills draft wars is

1557
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 5: with the hire of a day and I think I

1558
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 5: think Curry on the end is going to help out

1559
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 5: with with maybe if we don't get a top receiver

1560
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 5: in the first or to the second round, if mid

1561
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 5: rounds we got a coach now Ron Kurry, he was

1562
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 5: a coach at New Orleans Saints, to help our receive

1563
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 5: his coach. I'll developed some of these museums, but I

1564
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 5: thank you so much. I love you guys, and I

1565
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 5: appreciate you. I love wgr MSG and all the fans

1566
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 5: out there. Y'all be saved. God bless everybody, and thank

1567
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 5: you so much taking my call.

1568
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 3: Thanks.

1569
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, and just so you know, it's it's Jamile

1570
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 2: die is how you pronounce his name?

1571
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 3: The new cornerbacks coach for the Bills.

1572
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1573
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 2: I mean Steve was speculating as much too with the

1574
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: Miami connection, and maybe there is something to that going forward.

1575
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 2: I don't think it gets to a point where it

1576
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 2: necessarily impacts a draft day decision.

1577
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 4: The only way would impact is if he called the Bill,

1578
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 4: if he was in the room or whatever. They say

1579
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 4: what about and he says, you don't want the guy?

1580
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 4: There was something like that, But you get a character

1581
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 4: intel on him. Yeah, sure you know who the guy

1582
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,799
Speaker 4: really is from a coach who coached him at college.

1583
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 4: Or it might be that, hey, listen, he may be

1584
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 4: just the opposite as well. He may be in there

1585
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 4: jumping on the table and saying, listen, this guy. You

1586
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 4: may be able to get him as a seventh rounder,

1587
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 4: but you gotta get him because he's gonna be starting

1588
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 4: by years in. He's gonna be here for ten years.

1589
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 4: You might get something like that. Guys like that exist,

1590
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 4: and if you got a guy who coached him up

1591
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 4: for a couple of years at college and saw again

1592
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 4: can see the trajectory that the kid's on, and he'll say, yeah,

1593
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 4: he's he's gonna be good man, I'm telling you right now.

1594
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 4: Then you might that may sway a guy like Brandon

1595
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 4: Bean and Sean McDermott to say, okay, instead of trying

1596
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 4: to wait and taking a chance on missing on a

1597
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 4: guy like that, we'll you know, we'll take him at

1598
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 4: one sixty one, right after we take one fifty eight.

1599
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 4: We'll take him at one sixty one in the fifth round.

1600
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 4: He'll take him with the last of our fifth round picks,

1601
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 4: uh or maybe one ninety seven, two one, two five.

1602
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 4: You get him in that cluster and they'll say, okay,

1603
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 4: if he's still there at two o five, we'll take

1604
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 4: him right so you take him in the sixth round

1605
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 4: rather than let him go rookie free agent. Other either way,

1606
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 4: you're gonna say, okay, we got to make sure we

1607
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 4: get this guy some way, shape or form. And you

1608
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 4: get down into the one through two forty five range

1609
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 4: of the NFL draft if he's still there, and they say,

1610
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 4: if this guy's not there, we're gonna take him, and

1611
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 4: they do that's what comes from having an assistant coach

1612
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 4: on your staff brand new who is just coaching the

1613
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 4: kid three months ago. Yeah, could make a difference.

1614
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 3: It could.

1615
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 2: There's no question about it. Whether it does or it doesn't.

1616
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: We won't know until the draft actually.

1617
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 4: Happens, and even then they may not tell us.

1618
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: Well, then we'll just suppose even more and assume even more,

1619
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: cause you know that's kind of what we do. Uh,

1620
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 2: let's go to Mark in West senecon X.

1621
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Mark?

1622
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, A couple of questions and just a quick

1623
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 15: observation if you guys want me. First of all, Brownie,

1624
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 15: I know it's early, but you're usually pretty good at

1625
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 15: planning on a guy that you really want to see

1626
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 15: the Bills take if he's there in the first round.

1627
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 15: So I'm curiously if you've gotten there yet. Oh yes, yeah,

1628
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 15: I know it's very early. And secondly, talk all to

1629
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 15: talk about the coaches. My question for you, Steve is

1630
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 15: it got me to thinking about the position coaches on

1631
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 15: game day and what they actually do on the sideline.

1632
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 15: Are they focused in on their guys on techniques and

1633
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 15: tactics that are being employed during the game and then

1634
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 15: in relation to the game plan, are they doing it properly?

1635
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 15: And how involved do the position coaches get at halftime

1636
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 15: with any adjustments, whether it be just technique wise or

1637
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 15: even in what they're going to change up in the

1638
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 15: game plan at halftime. And the lastly, really quick, if

1639
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 15: you allow me to push back on you, Steve, just

1640
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 15: a little bit earlier in the show, you had set

1641
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 15: in the MVP discussion that the guys that vote they

1642
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 15: typically know what they're doing, to which I'm going to

1643
01:24:56,240 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 15: say boohoo, because if you want to have less knowledge

1644
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,760
Speaker 15: or very superficial knowledge, just watch and listen to the

1645
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 15: talking heads on the national shows and things like that.

1646
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 15: I'm not saying they don't know the game. I say

1647
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 15: they don't get into a lot of depth when they

1648
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 15: go player to player, and a lot of the times,

1649
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 15: in my opinion, they let their personal biases get in

1650
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 15: the way of what they like to talk about. So

1651
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 15: I'll c hang up and listen.

1652
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 9: Guys.

1653
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 4: Thanks, yep, Okay, but not all those not very many

1654
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 4: of those guys on the national sports talk shows have votes.

1655
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 4: So there's that. The thing about the assistant coaches what

1656
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 4: they do on game day, You've got you know, you

1657
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 4: know twenty plus twenty five plus maybe thirty assistant coaches,

1658
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 4: a quality control guys, staff members on your club that

1659
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 4: are all there. On game day, you see a ton

1660
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 4: of guys. You always see the coordinators on the TV

1661
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 4: broadcast where they show the cordon, there's like nine guys

1662
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 4: behind those guys that are in that booth watching the game.

1663
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 4: They all have specific instructions on what they're supposed to watch,

1664
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 4: what they're gonna do. You don't coach your guys on

1665
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 4: game day. You coach them during the week. You haven't

1666
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 4: got time to say, hey, do this. You've got them

1667
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 4: ready to work the techniques they're supposed to work.

1668
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 3: On game day.

1669
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 4: You don't have to go in and coach them up again.

1670
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 4: You do it on film after the game's over. You're

1671
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 4: trying to win the game that day. You're not trying

1672
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 4: to get your guys better. You've got them as good

1673
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 4: as you can get them. Get them on the field.

1674
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 4: So all those assistant coaches are watching specific things about

1675
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 4: the offense and defense, and they're coming up and they're

1676
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 4: compiling that information on a moment by moment basis so

1677
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 4: they can say, hey, they are running a ton more

1678
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 4: man on us today than they have run in the past. Nobody.

1679
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 4: They didn't run man against anybody else like they're running

1680
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 4: against us. Let's start calling man concepts that kind of stuff.

1681
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 4: That's what the assistant coaches do on a moment to

1682
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 4: moment basis. During the game. It is all hands on deck.

1683
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 4: On game day, you're not coaching players. You're managing tactics,

1684
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 4: and you're getting as much information with all the guys

1685
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 4: on the field, on the in the coaching box and

1686
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 4: also on the field. They're watching specific things on every

1687
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 4: play offensive defense to get information for their side of

1688
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 4: the ball to use on the next play. That's what

1689
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 4: it's all about. And so they you don't it's not teach,

1690
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,879
Speaker 4: it's not junior football. This isn't a little loop football

1691
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 4: and junior youth football where they come off fielding, hey,

1692
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 4: you want to step to the outside. None of that's

1693
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 4: going on. None of that's going on there. They've got

1694
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 4: they've got tactics and concepts and strategies that they're talking

1695
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 4: about on game day. This isn't you know, little Johnny

1696
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 4: needs to get in his his three plays for the

1697
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 4: game before you sit him down. There's none of that

1698
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 4: going on.

1699
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 3: Break time for us here.

1700
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 2: When we come back, I'll let you know a guy

1701
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 2: that I like, at least in the early going.

1702
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 3: I haven't seen everybody, but I got a name.

1703
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 4: No, I can recite the name, yes again because my.

1704
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 2: White board already, and there's an anniversary to note as well.

1705
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 3: We'll do that when we get back here. On one.

1706
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 2: Bill's live, stay tuned, all right, So Mark and west

1707
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 2: Seneco is asked, and look, I'm just getting into draft

1708
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: profiles and film and all of that stuff.

1709
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 3: I'm just getting started.

1710
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 2: But a guy that's caught my eye early is Brian

1711
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 2: Thomas Junior, the LSU receiver who I think checks a

1712
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: lot of the boxes for what Buffalo needs at white out.

1713
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:45,799
Speaker 2: An outside guy with size, length, speed, and field stretching ability,

1714
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 2: and he checks all of those boxes. Is he gonna

1715
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: be on the board come pick twenty eight? Probably not,

1716
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 2: which is why I'm gonna have to dig a little

1717
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 2: deeper and find somebody else that might be down there.

1718
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 4: The website'm looking at right now, Brian Toomas Junior is

1719
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 4: like the sixth best wide out in the whole draft.

1720
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 2: Well, then he might get there, depending on what the

1721
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 2: needs are. The general consensus is a lot of these

1722
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 2: teams in the top half of the.

1723
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 3: Draft they need help up front on both sides of

1724
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 3: the ball.

1725
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: They get a lot of edge rushers and a lot

1726
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 2: of offensive tackles going early along with those quarterbacks.

1727
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 4: Maybe gets pushed out, but there it is. Brian Thompson Juniors.

1728
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 4: That's Hot Brownies, Flavor of the Month. Brian Thomas Junior.

1729
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 2: Big Show tomorrow, Judy Batista from NFL Network and Super

1730
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: Bowl Picks.

1731
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: We'll see you then.